Board of Health

Board of Health: April 5, 2021

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At the April 5, 2021 meeting, the Board of Health received a COVID-19 update showing 1,252 cumulative cases, 21 active cases, and approximately 46% of the town population having received a first vaccine dose. The board discussed new state guidance for school events including prom, and heard a director's report on transfer station improvements including a planned permanent swap shop and scale house relocation. A board member announced she would not seek another term after 12 years, citing relocation to Utah for the following year.

#elections-procedural Lead ▶ 35 min

12-year Board of Health member announces she will not seek re-election; papers due May 4

A board member cited her spouse's relocation to Utah and inability to attend in-person meetings as her reasons for not seeking another term, urging public-health-minded residents to run.

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A board member announced she would not seek re-election after 12 years of service on the Marblehead Board of Health. She cited her spouse’s job requiring them to be based in Utah for the following year, making full-time attendance at in-person meetings impractical as pandemic restrictions ease.

She encouraged interested residents to pull nomination papers, noting that the deadline to take out papers is May 4, with the town election in mid-June. She offered to speak with anyone considering running about the experience of serving on the board.

Fellow board members expressed appreciation for her contributions, particularly in environmental health and public health policy over the past year of the pandemic.

Michelle (Board member) · Todd (Board member) · Andrew Petty (Director of Public Health)

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COVID update: 46% first-dose rate, 21 active cases, April 19 opens to all 16+

The Board of Health director reported 1,252 cumulative cases and discussed vaccination milestones and new state school-event guidance.

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As of April 2, 2021, Marblehead had 1,252 cumulative COVID-19 cases, with 21 active cases and an average daily incidence rate of 14.3 per 100,000. The percent-positive rate held essentially flat at approximately 1.43–1.44%.

Vaccination figures showed 3,823 residents had received a first dose and 5,172 had completed a second dose, representing roughly 46% of the total town population (including children not yet eligible). The director noted that April 19 would open eligibility to anyone 16 and older.

A regional vaccination clinic coalition including Swampscott, Marblehead, Salem, Danvers, Beverly, and Peabody was in discussions with the state about operating a facility at the O’Keefe Center in Salem, targeting 750 vaccinations per day Monday through Friday.

New state guidance was released for school events including prom, which the state designated a high-risk activity. The guidance strongly recommended delaying prom until after the school year, ideally until most attending students are vaccinated. Additional guidance was issued for non-athletic student groups, inter-school competitions, volunteering, and other school events.

The director noted a slight statewide uptick in cases, with concern about a potential fourth wave driven in part by the Brazil variant on Cape Cod.

Andrew Petty (Director of Public Health) · Michelle (Board member) · Todd (Board member)

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COVID Mental Health Task Force holds first meeting; next session April 12

A board member reported on the inaugural meeting of the Marblehead COVID Mental Health Task Force, which is identifying mental health data gaps and existing community resources.

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The Marblehead COVID Mental Health Task Force held its first meeting on March 29, drawing mental health professionals, school representatives, and community members. The group discussed potential activities including a needs assessment, a scan of existing mental health resources, identifying individuals who may fall through the cracks, and improving communication of available resources.

The task force’s next meeting was scheduled for Monday, April 12 at 7 p.m. The group is working to establish a regular meeting schedule that avoids conflicts with Board of Health meetings and town meeting dates.

Draft minutes were being prepared by Melissa Kappalowich, with the recorder intending to supplement them using the meeting recording before bringing them to the group for approval.

Michelle (Board member)

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Transfer station update: swap shop to go to bid, scale house relocation under review

The director reported that final plans exist for a permanent swap shop and that engineers and architects are evaluating repositioning the scale house to improve traffic flow.

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The director provided an update on transfer station improvements following the resolution of litigation. Key items under review include:

  • Scale house: The originally planned permanent location is not feasible due to the existing compactor footprint and grade change. Architects are evaluating moving it closer to the scale itself near the entrance.
  • Swap shop: Final plans are complete and the facility intends to put the permanent swap shop out to bid.
  • Traffic flow and paving: Reconfiguring the scale house may improve traffic circulation at the entrance without requiring additional space.
  • Blowing debris: Staff are considering installation of a small metal fence near the stream to capture windblown trash, possibly on a seasonal basis.
  • Water main break: A break on the lower road (tractor-trailer entrance) occurred on the prior Friday; the Water and Sewer Department repaired it quickly, and a small paving patch is planned once the area settles.
  • Environmental monitoring: Watermark Engineering conducts ongoing water quality testing. An exceedance for alkalinity was detected in both up-gradient and down-gradient surface water samples, and a required notification was sent to MassDEP. The full monitoring report is approximately 209 pages.

The town continues to work with Winter Street Architects (Dana) as architect of record; the architect has provided consultation time without charge. An updated cost estimate was prepared prior to litigation.

Andrew Petty (Director of Public Health) · Todd (Board member)

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Board votes unanimously to adjourn

The meeting concluded with a unanimous vote to adjourn.

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With no members of the public raising hands for public comment, the board moved to adjourn. All three members — Scott Leib, Hazlett, and Belfbecker — voted in favor.

Michelle (Board member)

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  1. Adjourned the meeting
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  • in favor (unanimous) Motion to adjourn
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0:01 Call the meeting to order on April 5th. Welcome, everybody. We’ll get right into our COVID update tonight. Sounds good. So, as of April 2nd, we have 1,252 cases. That was 15 cases over last week. We’re seeing two to three cases a day. Again, when you take a look at our, we have 21 active cases. When you take a look at our demographics for ages, we are still trending pretty high in the zero to 19. This week, the 40 to 49 was the highest group with 10 cases, or for the last two weeks, really. But we’re still seeing quite a few cases in that zero to 19 age range over the two-week period. Our average daily incident rate per 100,000 went down slightly to 14.3 from 15. Our percent positive rate essentially had no change. We are 1.43% to 1.44%. The state looks at that as no change. We’re doing very well with our vaccination rate. As of April 2nd, we’ve had 3,823 people have their first dose and 5,172 people have their second dose. That is approximately, we have approximately 46% of the town population having their first dose. So that’s really good. We’re looking to get to at least somewhere between 70 to 90% of fully vaccinated people to reach herd immunity.

1:46 Obviously, that needs to be in Marblehead and in the surrounding communities because we don’t live in a bubble. But Marblehead is doing very well for vaccination rates. We just want to make sure that continues on. And for April 5th, which is today, individuals 55 and over are now eligible to vaccinate. And individuals with one co-morbidity are allowed to be vaccinated at this point also. Can I ask a question or you want me to wait? You can ask a question. The 46% that you gave, does that include children that are not really getting vaccinated? That does include children that are not getting vaccinated. That cannot get vaccinated. That is correct. So that means that we’re probably up to 50% of the population that can get vaccinated. I would have to do the math on it. And it’s hard to do because that lower age group, zero to 19, is still lumped together. So I can’t pull out the 16 and up. So I know that 1% of that zero to 19 age group has been vaccinated. And we’ll continue to follow those trends. But I can’t tell you exactly of the age appropriate because it’s not broken out that well. When they use the numbers, the 70 to 90%, they’re using the overall numbers of every every nose in the city.

3:18 Yep, every nose in the city. Okay. And April 19th is still the day for anybody 16 and up to be eligible for the vaccine. Yeah. So April 19th, vaccinations are open to the general public at that point. So, yeah, 16 and up. And obviously, so, you know, we’re looking for high school students. And so we’re looking to continue to turn it over to get vaccinated as well. We continue to speak with the state. We have a local coalition. So Swamscot, Marblehead, Salem, Danvers, Beverly and Peabody are looking to continue potentially hold clinics in the Okeef Center in Salem. So we’re going to continue to talk to the state to see if that’s possible. that they’re looking for us to do is to vaccinate 750 people a day, and we would operate most likely Monday through Friday. Doing that, all the communities would have to agree to this, and all of us have agreed to do that, and we would have to essentially dedicate myself and a nurse to operate that facility one day a week. And yes, there’s more towns contributing to that than five, so we’re able to kind of sprace that out a little bit. But obviously, I think that would be very beneficial to all the surrounding communities, making it, you know, the idea is to try to make it as easy as possible for people to be vaccinated. So we are in discussions with the state.

4:48 We will see how that goes. We are hopeful that’s going to happen. Now we are looking for a larger kind of corporation or an ambulance company to really manage the whole facility, but we still have to oversee the vaccine itself. The vaccine would be sent to Salem, and for us to manage, it can’t go directly to a company like Cataldo or some of the other ambulance companies. That would not free us up. No, we still have to be part of that. As far as new guidelines, we have new guidelines that have come out for graduation. So they have graduation ceremony guidelines that went into effect on March 20th, 2020. So that is out. And they also have supplemental guidance for student groups and school events for the school year 2020 to 2021. So this, you know, this covers a whole array of different items, specific guidance by type of activity, non-athletic student groups, non-athletic inter-school competitions, volunteering, PROM. Has the principal put that out yet? I don’t know if the principal has put that out yet. The reason I’m asking that it wasn’t discussed at last Thursday’s reopening meeting. So these guidelines can be found on the state website.

6:20 So they’re available for everybody though? They’re available for everybody. Yeah. So we talked about them now, it wouldn’t get filled with things or anything. No. So anytime I’m talking about guidance, it’s dropped to the public and is open to everybody at that point. So general gathering guidance for outside participants or leaving school grounds, leaving school grounds. And that’s essentially it at this point. We have asked them to take a look at a whole list of items and we hope they continue to do that. You know, we’re looking for the senior show, the powder puff football, the senior banquet, the senior outing, pep rallies, concerts and stuff like that. They have addressed a lot of that, but we have asked for guidance for all those different items. Obviously, what makes sense is that it’s not, you know, mortal head specific, but makes sense for the state to give the guidelines and all the communities would have to follow those. It’s also interesting to think we’re just saying, you know, 16 and up is eligible this month. So you know, all these activities will be right on the cusp of when people will have been two weeks after the second shot. So that timing is actually favorable. Yeah, that’s correct. We hope they will if they go get this shot, which we do. Yeah. So items like the prom, you know, the prom is considered by the state to be inherently a high risk activity.

7:50 So what they’re hoping is that they’re really hoping that if everybody gets vaccinated that they could have the prom. So it’s kind of the carrot. So that is one of the things that’s in here. If schools do choose to hold the proms, it is strongly recommended that they delay the prom until after the end of the school year, ideally delaying until such a time when most students attending the prom will be vaccinated. So yes, it’s very possible come April 19th, you get on the computer, you start to at least register, you wait for a shot. And you know, we’re doing quite a few vaccines across the state on a daily basis, and you try to get as many people vaccinated. And you know, that’s that would make it eligible to have the prom, which would be great. I think those are some some good ideas. That’s really all that I have for COVID update at this time. Any other questions? Elaine, Michelle, did you hear anything about the reopening of school today for the half days? I mean, I’ll leave the only stuff I heard is for my own kids about, you know, it was great to be back in school full days. They talked about how they’re doing lunch and going outside and how it works. So that’s really all I’ve heard. I have not heard a report from the teachers and the principals and stuff like that. I’m sure that you’ll have you’ll hear a full report on Thursday. Yeah, K through six was full time and seven to 12 is half a day.

9:22 Is that correct? Yeah, that is my understanding. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we’ll get more. And right now there aren’t any changes around mask mandates or anything at the state level. They’re going to hold strong. Yeah, they’re going to hold strong. I mean, they tend not to share anything until they drop something and there’s a big change. They’ve been very, you know, keeping it close to their chest. They don’t want these discussions to take place and people to form opinions before regulations come out. So yeah, at this point, everything, you know, all the mask mandates are still going to stay in place. So obviously, you know, the biggest concern right now is that we are seeing a slight uptick in cases across the state. You know, the last couple of days, we’ve seen some cases over 2000 cases a day. A lot of the cases are occurring on the Cape. They are, it looks like they’re dealing with a lot of the Brazil variant down there. And obviously, there’s concern across the whole country about this fourth wave. Like we always talk about, this is kind of a race against time. We need to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible to try to prevent this fourth wave. Obviously, you need to still do your, you know, be vigilant about your guidance, you know, wearing masks, social distancing, washing your hands and such forth.

10:54 I know it’s been a really, really long time, but we need to make it to the finish line before, you know, and allow everybody to get vaccinated before this fourth wave can kind of really swell up. Obviously, Europe and Italy are dealing with that at this time. Canada is seeing another wave. They’re on their third wave. They have been really locking everything down. My understanding is that the poor is probably going to be closed for the whole summer. But you know, it’s still early in the springtime. We’ll see what happens. But everybody still needs to be vigilant about this. I know it’s hard. The weather is nice. We all want to get out there. But we need to just be responsible. I know our case report with all of our guidance came out Friday morning, and that was just before the CDC issued their travel guidance. So it wasn’t in our last one. But I assume we’ll put that changed travel guidance in our next report. The travel guidance. So we’re now under a travel advisory in Massachusetts. I’m talking about the national CDC travel guidelines. Yeah, we can put that in there. I mean, no matter what, you still have to follow state to state guidelines. You know, federal guidelines does not trump state to state guidelines. So if you’re traveling, you need to go into the state that you’re traveling and look at those guidelines. It might be required that you test before you go into that state.

12:25 Or you also have to take a look at the Massachusetts advisory now about when you’re returning home. And obviously, the Massachusetts advisory is in our weekly case report. Yes, no, but it was a pretty big, a big shift that CDC did mention that vaccinated people could travel, obviously following state guidance. But that was a big shift. So I do think that it behooves us to mention that in our guidance. Yeah, definitely. And obviously, you know, there’s been a lot of discussion about, you know, travel and vaccine and is there going to be a mandated vaccination cards for travel? And that is yet to be determined at this time. If you have a vaccination card, make a copy of it, keep it in your wallet, keep it with you. Yeah, or just take a picture of it and keep it in your phone. Yeah. Well, that’s a good idea because you know why I laminated mine and then they said if you’re going to have a future boosters, I guess I’ll just have to cut the laminated off. We can issue so people lose their cards, we can look up into the system and get all most of the information and issue a new vaccine card if needed. All right, so I won’t get into trouble with the director’s board of health. No, you will not get in trouble. And if we need to issue you a new card, we can do that. And that’s the same thing for everybody out there. If you lose it, don’t panic, call the office.

13:59 We should be able to look up all the information of when you got vaccinated, what the vaccine was and what the dates were. That’s good to know. That’s helpful because they’re just a little piece of paper. One other thing, I don’t know whether this is something that I am going to say, but you’re talking about social distancing and all. If necessary, seven to 12 may go less than six feet at school. So I just want people to know that they may hear that when the kids come home or when they are meeting with their teachers. It was no decision of ours. It was a school decision. But that’s what I’m hearing. It may be four feet, four and a half feet. And that’s the approval of the teachers. We’ll just have to see what happens. They’re trying to do as much food testing as they can. It’s been approved. The parents have to approve it. The kids have to show up. With the faculty, it’s … I’m sorry, not with the faculty. With the athletics, it’s mandatory. But the other students have to get permission. Yeah, I did hear a really good interview with a physician who had been the head of some

15:41 physician in public health in, I believe it was in Baltimore, and she’s a practicing physician, maybe an emergency room physician. And she did a really interesting interview on NPR, and she was just talking about how we have to really shift our … the way we look at schools from … it’s not about managing risk, and it’s not going to be about zero risk in schools, but how it’s … schools are an essential function, and how are we going from … it’s not about making schools 100% safe, but making them as safe as they can be. And if we have to reduce distancing, how are we doing a good job in other areas, like improving ventilation and increasing vaccinations so teachers are vaccinated, and doing as good a job in other ways so that we’re managing risks, pool testing, and other ways of increasing testing, and really understanding that at this stage in the pandemic, we want our kids back in school. It’s really important for them to be back in school, and we’re not going to get to 100% safety, so how do we manage that risk as best we can so that this essential function can

17:12 continue to happen for our kids who really need it for their mental health and their well-being, and hopefully we’ll see this pay off and without the negative impacts of higher case rates. So we’ll continue to see it, and I hope that reducing that distancing doesn’t have those negative impacts, but I think we reached a point where we were all seeing so many negative impacts of kids not being in school. Okay, so that’s the COVID report for tonight. Michelle, would you like to keep talking? Oh, Tom, go ahead. Yes. I was just wondering if Andrew knew what the percentage of teachers that have been able to get vaccinated yet so far have had teachers. I do not know that percentage. The only way I could really know that percentage, Tom, is to poll all the teachers, and that’s not something that we were looking to do at this time. Right, right, right. Okay. I would say anecdotally, it seems that many of them were getting vaccinated. That is not a scientific answer, but I know that many of them were also getting help from people who were trying to get them appointments, and there was a high interest from those teachers

18:46 in getting vaccinated, and they were really, there was a big push in the community to help them get the appointments they needed, but that is certainly not a scientific answer. It is an anecdotal answer. Michelle, when you give your update on your meeting, you had a meeting last week ago today, right? Oh, yes. I will give a short answer, and apologies, because I am under the weather right now, so I’m just going to give a short answer to let you all know that the Marblehead COVID Mental Health Task Force had its first meeting on the 29th of March, and as soon as our meeting minutes are public, you know, we will be posting them, but it was a good meeting of a cross-section of mental health professionals, representatives from the schools, citizens, and yeah, that is basically the cross-section of folks, and you know, you have heard on past meetings, and our meeting minutes reflect the makeup of the group, and we talked about the various potential activities that the group will take on, and we will be kind of narrowing this down in our next meeting, but identifying mental health data gaps in town

20:19 to ensure access to mental health care across the community, doing a bit of a kind of a needs assessment, or what can I call it, maybe like a bit of a scan of what is already out there in terms of resources, we don’t want to recreate the wheel, so we are going to do a scan and discuss what is already out there, and then kind of figure out where we need to kind of plug in and fill in some of the gaps, and we really wanted to make sure that we could help figure out some of the ways that we could identify individuals who may fall through the cracks, who may need to access resources and aren’t getting those resources and what the role that this task force could play in doing that, and identify ways that we could do a better job of communicating and marketing resources for disseminating information. So what we want this group to play a role in doing is being kind of that connector, that group that doesn’t step in where others are stepping in, but kind of figuring out how we can kind of creatively fill the role where there’s some needs and where others aren’t kind of stepping in, and we have a lot of kind of interesting out of the box thinkers

21:52 who are ready to step in and to help figure that out. So next week, so we were just kind of doing a lot of the basic pieces at this meeting of introductions and laying the groundwork, and at our next meeting, I think we’ll dig in and kind of come up with a more concrete timeline of the different activities that we’ll be doing. Could anyone ask for the TV and for the lead with the next meeting date? Yes, we will be meeting on April 12th, that’s a Monday, at 7 p.m. And we are still trying to figure out our regular meeting time, because we’re trying to toggle the weeks so that we’re not conflicting with the Board of Health meetings, but then we bumped up against town meetings, so I have to figure out the overall schedule, so I’ll announce that at our next meeting, but we’re trying to figure that out. Who volunteered to do the minutes? Last meeting was Melissa Kappalowich, and we may be rotating recorders, or we’re not sure if we’re going to have one person over time, but that was Melissa Kappalowich, who did it last time. I just want to say I sat in on the meeting, and I think Michelle had a great meeting. She had some guidelines and some Brown rules and she had some nice visuals, and I want to thank you for that. Thanks.

23:23 And Michelle, yes, the meeting was recorded, so I believe I sent you a link with the passcode to receive that recording, so if somebody needs to take minutes off of that, they could do that, or whatever you guys decided to do with that meeting post. Yeah, so I have, just process-wise, I do have the meeting minutes that Melissa took, but they weren’t terribly detailed, so I was going to go back and listen and fill in the blanks. That’s cool for me to do that, right? I can go in and add. So those would be draft meeting minutes, and then once you add all the information back in, you bring that back to your board to approve the final set of minutes. Okay. Just like we do. Yeah, just like we do. Okay. So you’ve got to, you know, just before the 12th to get that squared away. Yeah, that’s what I’ll tell you. Meeting minutes do not need to be incredibly detailed. Obviously, you’re supposed to capture attendance, votes taken, you know, the major items that occurred. Okay, I’m just used to Andrea’s very detailed minutes, so she sets a high bar. Yes, she does. Everybody’s throwing compliments. You know what? We need a shovel. Yeah. Great. Well, thank you, Michelle, for giving us a little bit of a way.

24:56 And I think part of anybody who wants to come to attend the meeting, we had some good public participation and we’re looking for even more, so please. But I’ve got a question for Andrew. If both Todd and I show up, is that not a good idea? You can listen, but you can’t participate as a board number. I listened even I was off, you know. You listened. Yeah. And I just I watched the recording after the fact, so I wasn’t there in person. Okay. But if you do, we can still do both of us. We don’t have to check with each other from what Andrew just said. No, you can listen. You just can’t participate as a board member. If it was in a meeting room, we could sit in the same room. Yeah. Right. You can sit in the audience and you just can’t be advocating for the board of health. You can’t, you know. Okay. That’s helpful. Thank you. Yep. We look forward to hearing more as the weeks come. It seems like a great group of people. What about what are you doing about the representative representation from the police? Have you thought about that? Yeah, I’m waiting to hear back, but I hope that we will have representation. Okay. Thank you. It might also just aside no fee worthwhile to reach out to Parks and Rec at some point because they have so many programs in town.

26:30 Health exercise, well-being, they might have some good resources as well. Anything further on that? Andrew, the director’s report, please. All right. I wanted to talk a little bit about the transfer station. So obviously we have settled all of our litigations and we have a great working majority of the transfer station. So we have a great recycling area. We have a great yard waste area. You know, our biggest constraint is kind of the front of the house, the entrance of the property. So we have a lot of commercial vehicles that come through and we have a scale house that was a temporary scale house. We also don’t have a permanent swap shop. So what we would like to do and what we’re doing is that we are going back to speak with the architect to see what items that we can complete now without wasting funds. So we don’t want to have to duplicate really any work. So one of the things that we’re taking a look at is the scale house. The scale house was supposed to be a little bit further into the property, but is it possible to bring that scale house back and set it right next to the scale itself? Also looking at the scale itself and looking to put that in a permanent location. And then also trying to take a look at flow. At this point, you know, we’re using our owners, OPM, you know, and then trying to

28:07 do this at a very high level. We do have final plans for the swap shop. And so we at some point soon, we would like to talk about putting that out to bid and actually building the new swap shop. Obviously those areas get used quite a bit and that’s something that the public’s looking to have a permanent swap shop. Yes, we have a permanent recycling area and then trying to figure out the front of the house, maybe some paving and stuff like that, but trying to figure out that flow. And then obviously, like I said, we don’t want to duplicate work or spend money that we all have to spend again. So we’re starting to catalog all those different areas and trying to prioritize what we want to do now versus what we can do later. Some of the other concerns that we always have at the transfer station is that during the winter, you know, model head sees a lot of high winds, especially during the winter months or during the spring. So we’re often dealing with blowing trash. We’re always trying to remind people, you know, make sure the bag trash going into the compactors and always trying to get the guys to pick up blowing trash and the such. One of the concerns we have is that trash blowing down towards the stream and do we need to erect a small fence, you know, something like a not like a chain link fence, but a square metal fence that would capture some of this, you know, blowing debris. So we are looking at some of those items and seeing what the easiest thing to do and where

29:38 we can position some of this stuff. Maybe it’s a temporary fence seasonally, but these are the some of the things that we’re taking a look at. We did have a water break last Friday at the transfer station on the what we call the lower road. So is that the tractor trailer entrance for the for the trash. And we had a water break on there. Luckily, water sewer was able to come in and fix that actually, you know, quite quickly to tell you the truth. They did a great job identifying the source of the issue, digging down, fixing that and then putting everything back together. We’re allowing that settled area to settle quickly and then we’ll go back and do a little bit of paving. But we’re very thankful to have our water and sewer department right here in town and they’re able to come out and address those issues right away. Obviously, we, you know, it is required for Mass Department of Public Health that we do ongoing monitoring and inspections. You all know that we’ve hired a company called Watermark who’s an engineering firm to complete these inspections and the water quality testing and all that stuff. You know, Todd, you did have a question about, you know, surface water and we do surface water sampling on a regular basis to identify any issues. To make sure that we’re capturing, you know, potential pollutants from the transfer station, we do upstream sampling and downstream sampling. We did hit an exceedance and we did have to send a letter to Mass DEP for alkalinity.

31:13 You know, nothing totally out of the norm. It’s just these are the standards that we have to follow. But we did see this exceedance above, so up gradient and also down gradient. We’ll continue to monitor all this information and if we need to contact DEP, we will continue to do that. And if you’re, if everybody’s, obviously I have copies of all the sampling and the reporting if people are interested in that as well. Could you send that out, please? Yeah, it’s a 209 page document. I don’t want to see that. Okay. Is there a conclusion or? No, there is not a conclusion in that. No. Oh, all right. I’d read you paragraphs. No, that is a 209 page document that’s done on a regular basis. And that’s really it for the director’s report. Could I, tell me if this is executive committee. Can you tell me what, was the swap shop, the scale house was part of the original plan. Was the swap shop part of the original plan? Yes. And they were all, they were basically together, was the swap shop still down where it used to, where it’s been? Nope. So the swap shop is off kind of on its own. It’s got its own parking area and the scale house is back towards the front of the site, the entrance. So if, in a perfect world, what, what would you like to have if we, whether we have

32:50 the funds or not, is there anything missing? No, everything’s in place if we have the, I mean, you know, when you guys, when we designed the facility, it was what everything that we would need. We haven’t deviated from that. And this is whatever we do with the architects now will be, we will satisfy what we originally planned. Well, some of it, I mean, obviously we’ll have to, you know, we can go more into detail and look at plans and stuff like that. The issue is that the original transfer station, new building is going to be back in and like just past the culvert, you know, by that bisects the whole transfer station. So further into the facility, giving us a little bit larger entrance area. That doesn’t mean when you go through the gate, but a little bit more area for cars to pass and stuff like that. The scale house was designed to go right next to the compactor now, but you wouldn’t be able to build that because the compactor is there and as it drops off the slope. So you couldn’t put the new scale house in the exact location that was designed. You would have to take a look at bringing that forward. So right now it’s just, you know, taking a look at that space. Does that make sense? How much does it change the flow of traffic? We don’t believe it really changes the flow of traffic too much, but that’s something that we need to take a look at. You said you were just adding area for traffic anyhow.

34:22 Does that alleviate that problem with the traffic around the scale house? So you’re not adding space, but you might, you’re reconfiguring space. So it might alleviate some of the traffic flow issues. Okay, good. Are you still working with Dana as the architect? Yeah, we are still working with Winter Street and Dana and he’s, you know, he’s been very generous with his time, often meeting with us and not charging it at all for us. That’s great. So you have been meeting? So they’ve just took a initial look at the potential of moving that scale house around and, you know, could we site it where it needs to be cited or can we look at different options? And that’s really the owner’s project manager and the architects looking at elevations and stuff like that. So the architects are the ones that are going to tell us what funds that we have, if we would be able to do the things that you just talked about. Yes, before we went into litigation, we have an updated estimate for costs. Oh, okay. So we have that. Yep. Well, it’s also almost a year later. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Thank you. So you said that was the report for tonight? That is the report for tonight. Okay. The last item on our agenda is public participation. If you have anything to say, please raise your hand.

35:55 I’ll call on you in order. What about olden? I have some new business. Why don’t we do that and then the public. That’s fine. Is there any older new business? I have some new business. Go ahead. I have some new business to announce and it is a bittersweet news that I am going to be doing. I am going to be doing a little bit of work on this. I am regretfully announcing that after. 12 years of. Serving on the board of health. My term is coming to an end this spring. And I will not be seeking another term with the board of health. I would love to serve another term on the board of health. I will continue to participate as a public participant. And certainly this past year has been like no other and the transition from doing. All of our environmental health work and things that, that I’ve been most active in transitioning into COVID has, It has been unprecedented. But I will be back in Marvel head full time, ultimately.

37:27 But next year, due to my spouse’s job, will be mostly in Utah. And given that we are going to be, God willing, back in person next year, it just doesn’t make sense for me to be serving from afar. And I appreciate that I’ve been able to continue to do this back and forth virtually due to the pandemic, one of the weird silver linings. But given that I’m not going to be able to be in Marvel head full time while he’s working in Utah as his office reopens, I am not going to seek reelection. So therefore, I really hope that a committed public health minded individual or individuals will take out papers and step up and join my esteemed colleagues in their work on the Board of Health. And if you have questions about how to do that, you can call the clerk’s office. You can call Andrew Petty. And I hope you would feel comfortable calling me or Helene or Todd to talk about the experience of serving on the board. What has transpired this past year, I think, is far more participation in the activities of the Board of Health

39:01 than we’ve ever experienced. I mean, we used to sit in empty conference rooms month after month. Now we meet weekly or biweekly. And we’ve had so much more participation. So my expectation is that we will have a contested election this year so that we have a lot of people stepping up to run for this position. And I’m excited and happy to talk to anybody who’s interested in stepping into this heated race. That’s it. Well, it is bittersweet news. In fact, it’s not even bittersweet news. It’s sad news because I’ve enjoyed your collegiality and your brilliance in your specific area and your thoughtfulness in all the other areas of public health. You’re a very thoughtful, committed, dedicated individual and board member. So I will certainly miss you. I really hope maybe possibly we might be able to have an in-person meeting before my last meeting. Maybe if we’re all vaccinated, we might be able to pull that off. What do you think? Doesn’t it depend on the offices, the buildings? Yeah, we’ll see what some of the state guidance is. The state is not recommending that we do that at this time.

40:34 All right. Well, maybe offline we can clink glasses or something. Andrew is in on that one. And we’ve been doing this together a long time, the three of us. And your enthusiasm and your knowledge have been a huge asset to the board. And you’ll be missed. I mean, there’s no way around that. You’ll be a big void to fill. So we’re not done thanking you, but we’ll thank you. Well, I have many, many kudos to share, but I’ll save that. But I just did want to announce that so that we have time for people to pull papers and think about running. And so please share those of you who are on the call with your thoughtful public health minded citizens that you know. And hopefully, people will step up. It’s been a pleasure working with you. I’ll address this. Likewise. So many great stories. I look forward to the day when we can sit down and discuss some of the fun ones and some of the tough ones. There’s so many great ones. And yeah, it’s been a long road. But we appreciate all your hard work and dedication. Thanks, guys. Andrew, do you know when the deadline is for filing? I do not. I can get that tomorrow, though.

42:05 Mr. John, do you know the deadlines for taking papers? I want to say it’s early May, but I’m not positive. It might be end of April. The election is mid June. Great. So if there’s anybody in the public, please raise your hand. Doesn’t look like there is. So do we have a motion to adjourn? That’ll be yours, Michelle. Go ahead. John, I just found out it is May 4. May 4, OK, thanks. Papers of doom on May 4. Yes. I’ll make a motion to adjourn. Second. Ms. Scott Leib? In favor. Ms. Hazeltt? In favor. Dr. Belfbecker? In favor.

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