Board of Health
Board of Health: November 15, 2022
The Board of Health met on November 15, 2022 to hear a presentation from the Marblehead Counseling Center on its proposed uses for ARPA funds allocated to the Board of Health, estimated at approximately $145,000 of the $200,000 total allocation. The Counseling Center outlined three funding categories: technology infrastructure, office space expansion and building repairs, and clinician recruitment. The board also received updates on waste disposal fee increases, textile and mattress recycling, and an opioid settlement payment to the town.
Marblehead Counseling Center requests ~$145K of Board of Health's $200K ARPA allocation
Center leaders outlined three spending buckets — technology, space expansion/building repairs, and clinician recruitment incentives — while disclosing a waitlist of roughly 200 clients, about 76 of them under age 20.
Representatives of the Marblehead Counseling Center at 28 Washington Street (the Hobbs Building) appeared before the Board of Health to discuss proposed uses of ARPA funds. The Board of Health had been allocated $200,000 by the Select Board, with approximately $145,000 identified as the Counseling Center’s request and the remainder under discussion for the Mental Health Task Force.
Three proposed funding categories:
| Category | Description | Estimated Cost |
|---|---|---|
| Technology | New server, network infrastructure, workstations, cloud-based practice-management software | (not specified separately) |
| Office space expansion & critical repairs | Interior build-out of additional clinical offices on first floor; rear balcony/staircase repairs | ~$35,000 for exterior repairs noted |
| Clinician recruitment | One-time signing incentives to attract fee-for-service clinicians in a competitive market | (not specified separately) |
Waitlist and capacity: The center currently has a waitlist of approximately 200 people; roughly 70–80% are Marblehead residents. Of those under age 20, essentially all are Marblehead residents. The center has been working to reduce the list by hiring additional clinicians.
Building context: The town owns the Hobbs Building; the Counseling Center is a tenant paying minimal rent. An approximately $80,000 renovation was completed prior to COVID, funded largely from the center’s endowment. Rear balconies and footings were identified as in poor condition.
Operating finances: Operating expenses are growing at roughly double the rate of revenue growth. Revenue sources include insurance reimbursements (MassHealth noted as among the higher-reimbursing payers), a Friends fundraising campaign, and the town’s annual appropriation of $60,000. Board members discussed potentially restoring additional funding to that annual line.
Opioid settlement: The director noted the town received an opioid settlement totaling approximately $101,923 to be paid over five years, with a working group (police chief, fire chief, town administrator, and board of health director) developing a spending plan.
Next steps: The board asked the Mental Health Task Force (meeting November 28) and the Counseling Center to each develop specific budget proposals so the full $200,000 allocation can be finalized at the December 12 meeting.
Ron Ferguson (Counseling Center Board President) · Harry Allen McDonald (Counseling Center Board, 76 Roosevelt) · Ryan Bernier (Social Services Instructor / Board of Directors) · Terry (Clinical Director, unnamed last name) · Joanne (Mental Health Task Force chair) · Moses (Board of Health, budget discussion)
Also on the agenda
Board approves meeting minutes for September 28, October 11, and October 12
Minutes from three prior meetings were approved at the opening of the November 15 session.
The chair called the hybrid meeting to order and the board voted to approve minutes from September 28, October 11, and October 12, 2022. All votes were affirmative.
Board Chair (unnamed)
Waste disposal fees to be reviewed in December; mattress fee likely rising to ~$35, textile ban rules clarified
The director reported that mattress/box-spring fees currently at $25 need to increase, solid waste disposal fees at $2.10 need review, and rugs and carpets are exempt from the textile disposal ban.
The Board of Health director gave an update on transfer station operations and upcoming fee changes:
- Mattress/box-spring recycling fee (in place since 2018) is currently $25 and is expected to increase to approximately $30–$35 at the December board meeting. The board does not want to be the cheapest option on the North Shore and attract out-of-town disposal.
- Solid waste disposal fees currently at $2.10 are also under review; a recommendation will come at the December meeting.
- Textiles ban: Clothing, bedsheets, linens, and curtains must go to recycling bins (Magic Hat at the transfer station or drop-off bins in town). Rugs and carpets are not included in the textile ban and may still go in the solid waste stream.
- Commercial recycling sticker: The board is considering a sticker system to allow Marblehead businesses to use the transfer station’s recycling area.
- Transfer station paving: Minor paving is planned within the next week or two; the facility will close briefly during that work.
- Holiday recycling tips were presented to Sustainable Marblehead on December 7; wrapping paper is not recyclable curbside.
- Household hazardous waste day: December 7 with ACV; residents sign up and pay online directly to the vendor.
Board of Health Director (unnamed)
Town receives opioid settlement totaling ~$101,923 over five years
A working group of town department heads is developing a spending plan for the opioid settlement funds.
The director reported that Marblehead received an opioid litigation settlement of approximately $101,923 to be distributed over five years. A working group consisting of the police chief, fire chief, town administrator, and Board of Health director is meeting to develop a budget for the funds, with a report expected in December.
Board of Health Director (unnamed)
Board wraps up; next meeting set for December 12
Members discussed scheduling and agreed to continue ARPA budget deliberations at the December 12 meeting.
The board briefly discussed meeting scheduling — including the possibility of an evening meeting time to accommodate town staff — and confirmed the next regular meeting would be December 12, 2022. The board adjourned after a unanimous vote.
Board Chair (unnamed)
Tonight's record
2 decisions ▾
- Approved minutes for September 28, October 11, and October 12, 2022
- Continued ARPA allocation discussion to December 12, 2022 meeting
4 votes ▾
- in favor (unanimous) Approve minutes for September 28, 2022
- in favor (unanimous) Approve minutes for October 11, 2022
- in favor (unanimous) Approve minutes for October 12, 2022
- in favor (unanimous) Adjourn
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0:07 And one women so you just turn off music so need something like so okay. So we’re live. Yes. I think it’s long gone. Yeah. I had more different people in my house to all right. It is 7:30. So we’ll call the meeting to order. Meeting of November 15th, which 22 welcome everybody. We are doing hybrid meeting and also be on mhtv.
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1:48 So welcome results, not all I move Ferguson. I’m the current president of the board of directors now in the 28 Washington Street. Harry Allen McDonald 76 Roosevelt and Social Services instructor Ryan Bernier 817 Memorial Road, and I’m on the board of directors welcome, and we usually do this meeting in January, but we’re having a little early just because we want to talk about what you’re up to and also budgeting machine because we’re going to be planning for budget’s way ahead and you just want to kind of see what’s going on. So I don’t you have a presentation to start with or well, we first of all we thank you so much for inviting us tonight. We are we’re having focused a
2:35 lot of our conversations about tonight’s meeting around the the art of funding that the board has the board. The select board has designated to the Board of Health. But and if you want us to talk about that and give you information on on how we feel about that, we’re happy to do it. But could you listen all of you with the what’s going on in the presence? Yes would be we have a July one fiscal year and with the change in the in the new year. I became president of the board. I’ve been on the board for about six and a half years now. I joined in 2016 and I’ve lived in town for over 40 years.
3:19 we have Ron was brought in that time, right and
3:28 So we have an afterward. We can as you probably know as much as anyone else in town would we’ve been going through a lot of the circumstances and and experiences that everyone in town and around the country has over the last several years going back. For covid and really the conversations were ongoing when I joined in 2016 the demand for the counseling Center’s Services was increasing on a regular every year after year. The demand was increasing and we’ve been fortunate enough to have the hospitals building as facility.
4:14 To run the center, but we had recognized that.
4:22 the demand exceeded our capacity to provide services and we have been very fortunate in the past to have one very generous benefactor in addition to the generosity of the town of Marblehead and and the citizens of Marvel and elsewhere who have supported us through our friends campaigns and other fundraising efforts. so we decided that the time had come to invest in in the counseling center and in the physical building So we made some major. structural changes to the building and
5:04 actual physical repairs and improvements
5:10 The ADA Compliant ramp needed to be prepared. We had a good portion of the building. We painted each new windows. And in the interior, we reconfigured the first floor to be the accessible entrance because the old entrance to the center was through the back stairs, which are now basically unusable there. And such rough shape. And we moved the reception area and everything to the first floor moving a lot of the administrative offices. Down there and using some of the other space for clinicians offices. And that was about an $80,000 investment. Taking a huge chunk of our endowment
5:57 to do so and then covid hit so we had this great new space, but we had shut down of course and but people didn’t didn’t stop eating Services. If anything they needed more than ever. So we invested further with
6:22 in addition to the items and that kind of thing that we’ve done when we did the initial upgrade of the building we invested further with
6:32 Additional it to me because everyone was telling we had to switch to Tele and that required an additional it and and training the clinicians have not been trained in doing Telehealth in general. So so that was that took an additional investment so now we’re back to the present day and we are we are open and demand is continuing to increase and
7:08 this the town has been unique in its support for mental health services and it’s recognition that about the importance of helping the community making through whatever. Tough times or issues or just help related issues that they have and so we’re very we’re very fortunate in that way.
7:35 So renovation, did you get more clinical space or did you just bring everything downstairs? No, we as a result of moving things around we did get more clinical space tearing can probably can’t believe a couple of more functional campuses downstairs, but most importantly it was really, you know essential for folks to be able to use the ramp to be able to access Services. We see a lot of folks a lot older adults love seniors with disabilities and it just was not at all feasible perfect to get thank you. So using the second floor. Oh, yeah, and we’re able to expand that original reception area for additional clinical things.
8:22 But as I said now we’re open and we’re operating on a hybrid model. Mental Health Services we have some of our clients
8:36 as come in some come in sometimes and sometimes they they do it be a remote. We’re also in a new world of Mental Health Services where just like about every area of employment there is A huge demand for her staff and it’s a challenge to get and retain staff. So we’re in a competitive environment that way and I would say that we are being very creative in addressing those those issues both in terms of identifying potential clinicians candidates to be clinicians and being very
9:21 flexible in terms of their demands for
9:27 when they expect from their work environment so that we are now moving from primarily full-time clinicians in the office to a number of the clinicians are fee for service. I would say moving to a majority of them are be Reserves. So that has changed the way we do we do we provide the services in the way we do the work. We are hoping if things work out that we will be able to have the resources to do some additional changes to the building. We’ve recognize now that we lived with
10:14 the space that we made that we can take better advantage of the first floor. And we’re not a lot of expense we can put up like studs and wallboard and make a couple of the spaces that are open that are open into more private space. Those of you who’ve been in the Hobbs building know there’s a big kitchen with a big old stove that might have some historical value to someone I’ve heard of cookies. So my brownie Tree in this the staff had a recent meeting and talked about things that that they would like to see and some area that was kind of a community Gathering space
11:01 didn’t have to be as big as the kitchen but nobody wants to give up at being able to have the refrigerator those kinds of things. But but there are spaces that we think we could easily make additional spaces for clinicians. So that said our operating expenses are increasing in about double the rate of the growth of Revenue and our Revenue has increased we’ve one of the ways we’ve been created is looking at the insurance providers who reimburse us for the services. And this is something that I I didn’t realize I thought that there was in the state the resetting commission where he had a certain. Circumstance and the rate was debts regardless
11:49 of the insurance. That’s not true that each each insurance company had reimburses at a different rate So wherever fortunately one of the more.
12:02 that one of the higher rates of reimbursement is MassHealth and we have a lot of people that we see who are on MassHealth So we are. When we when we have new again the space for a new client. It helps that they’re you know now self we don’t a little bit more Revenue coming in and we’ve had a very successful friends campaign every year and this year. We’ve already raised quite a bit. There was an article in the Marblehead Weekly News. From your meeting Joanne and the task force and that resulted in a number of people stepping up.
12:48 Former board member made a very generous donation and other former clients, so it’s all good. It’s very positive, but We still have this situation that everyone has right now. We’re costs are exceeding. Exceeding Revenue. So we’re we’re concerned about how long we can operate at this. kind of rate
13:14 Going forward everybody for building expenses or just for the salaries about it. Well. Well, we’re raising money for for both. We have the funds the France campaign is I guess you’d call it fungible night. It’s not designated money for any particular purposes. It’s to support the ongoing operations of the center so we can decide internally, what’s the best use of those funds if someone were to endow in particular kind of program or a clinician or kind of like a clinician who specializes in young children then that would be obviously that money would be segregated just like the town money is
14:02 Completely and totally segregated to the terms of the agreement with the town is Citizens and employees of the town. So when we submit an invoice for expenses it’s very it’s anonymized so that the people that the privacy of the client is maintained, but we do actually invoice and it’s very specific. We assert that the funds were used for Marblehead purposes only and we get reimbursement by the town are not going basis and so but in the in terms of The potential for the art of funds they’re very strict requirements in
14:49 terms of what kinds of expenses could be. Before we go into that. Can I just asked about I said and I have things beyond the meeting went once I’m hybrid with the course like when they were still poor selecting and we Two Gentlemen with the president the co-presidents of the time they were asking for some infrastructure. They needed no boiler and they move and where is that is the town going to pay for there or I was there. Well, the barber was in the town in this last Town appropriation and individual had is the boiler. It’s doing today. We’re really close here chairman phase
15:34 I think right at this point. So where the town movement. Yes.
15:41 Not that I’m aware of. I think that is in the one of the that’s that’s part of the exterior. The back balconies are rotted in the footings are rotted out. So it’s more than the roof. It’s more than it’s way more than the roof with their town or another talents the town meeting for several routes in town. Is that that might be one of them we should but obviously examples right? There’s a lot of John so John Albright is the Building Commissioner who’s in charge, you know, what simply of all-time buildings we want to make sure that he’s aware of all these patients come out. Yeah. Yeah. Very responsive.
16:28 Okay. Yeah, right.
16:38 So any other any questions? Oh, yeah, but I wanted to just get a break if you want to go to the Opera then we can go there too. No, whatever you want. So there’s still obviously there’s a significant wait list. To you. Yes, there is there is yeah. What is the weightless? What is your capacity? The weightless is about 200 and that’s about
17:03 70 to 80% Marblehead residents of the under
17:09 under 20 of the youth is Alma the waitlist under 20 is all Marblehead and to 20 years and so under 20. Under the 200 is a total and under 20 is about 776. Oh, yeah 140. Yeah. Yeah now that’s so this is better because we read on the way this right energy done. We work shortage of the way hired a couple more clinicians so we can continue. So if you disservice, are they still a supervised by somebody
17:55 you lose of our lives so very well and supervises all these people the service people to come and go and She does all that supervision we had we have been looking if there’s someone else there is what listening to bring in someone who can help with that and where she’s starting to work with one of the clinicians also. To who can do some of the supervision particularly of the the interns we’ve had. Decades-long relationship with Salem State University and oh that program and that’s been some and we have a great relationship with her with the program. We are
18:41 you know, one of the training grounds on the North Shore, that’s our brand nobody. I would it’s great.
18:51 That have you figured out what you building capacity is essentially. So like we’ve done all this Renovations and made additional workspace. I mean figured out with the maximum capacity of patience could be that building. We can get back to you it varies though because of we are hybrid model and that’s really and it’s also bigger that you’ll transition to a non-iven model or is that is the hyperbol of essentially going to stay where there’s gonna be a group of people that are going to still want telemedicine and then there’s a gonna be a group of people that want in person. Absolutely, right? Yeah, and it’s all medicine seems like it’s gonna be here to say. Yes, right when covid hit and everybody and General Health Care and in mental health care went into You know crisis mode and how we’re going to do this Telehealth.
19:37 There was a lot of concern first there was you know, what are the insurance rates going to be insurance companies which are talking about reimbursing at a lower rate that changed and then there was a lot of conversation about that. It’s going to be a temporary thing. And once we all got back to normal it would go away but nobody’s talking that way anymore. Yeah, we’ll have gotten used to it having the flexibility whether some people yeah, and especially with them kids. Yeah not it’s not necessarily doesn’t yeah, and it’s easier you can imagine that a lessons to think. Oh, I don’t really need to do this call today and right inclusions were when they’re doing to help or they on site we’re gonna be anywhere because that makes
20:24 its capacity. Yeah exactly and it’s really attracted more clinicians to have that flexibility to be the deeper service to be able to come into the office to be able to To have the infrastructure support to be able to home or I think it’s doxyamine, but there’s no problem. No, which are you then? You have double witness. Right? Right. We could be seeing twice as many people right? So the importance that really get a constrained, right? Okay, and we do have a couple clinicians who have done home this as well. And then I know you were at that meeting when we’re done and talks with Dr. Bucky about chance and kids and that’s another area for expansion right wonderful for the
21:10 school system of this huge need that we’re seeing as well as for you guys and everybody. Yeah, you currently have a psychiatrist. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Can’t do their party without a second interesting. I don’t think so. Maybe we can now do prescriptions right and that was a big discussion of the bad for several years and right.
21:37 And some psychiatrists every clinicians.
21:42 specialized in working with children some Don’t like to work with children. We’re fortunate to have Marine Willett there who is
21:52 Has worked with kids and young people for her whole career, and she is focusing on. Helping our interns kind of get on that path because that’s a real need everywhere. Not just in Marvel head Center. Can you help us understand? I know about this past year understanding the wait list at the counseling center and and I can imagine so many people that are calling and hearing about an extensive wait list and you know, they’re feeling things really strongly in that moment and maybe they’re not even putting themselves on the list because of having an extensive way list. And so that just I think speaks to the urgency with in my opinion because to have really been able
22:38 to meet and reduce that list significantly, but then I still think that must be You know concerning to new patients that are seeking help at the Counseling Center. So do you in the past when there was a shorter wait list?
22:59 Doesn’t that when you when we do meet bring that number down, it does open up opportunity for more patients to seek service and access service, right? I mean, I feel like that’s so significant. I don’t think there’s a bigger metric of the urgency here with respect to we’re waiting list or because I was thinking, you know, so many people that have cared for these past few years that are saying gosh, I think maybe some help and then when they go to find it, there’s just no right. Wayless Universal problem and Years. I’ve been in many a board meeting and been told what the waitlist is and it’s not uncommon for someone to call and ask and everyone could know that. when people caught we have a 24-hour
23:47 on in person called somebody’s on call pointing where hours a day. So when a call comes in we screen it and we make certain determinations of whether this is what the level of urgency is. So it’s not like you just take your name and put them on it people’s name and put them on a list. There’s a there’s a whole dialogue that goes on to determine what level of need is and once you set aside the urgent need get in right now get to the hot get to an emergency right now. Whatever. then they put on the waitlist or are told that there’s a wait list and people have been known to say well. That’s nice, but I need to I want to see somebody now.
24:35 I’ll try somewhere else and we have to give them a list of the places where we have a good relationship and we respect the way that the work is done people and sometimes it’s the same day that the person calls back and you know, they’ve tried every other possibility and they come back to the center. For me on the list. And so if they call today and said I’ll go through all that stuff. How many days out are you telling me at this point? So it’s it various and I wish it was a simple answer. Yeah, I understand. Yeah Trion just sort of the most critical and then and and our Marblehead folks do take priority just to be assured and you know, it depends on
25:21 the clients schedule their needs and working around, you know, if we have folks who are open during the daytime. It’s a little bit easier than sometimes the kiddos who are like, okay. Well we can do between three to seven three to eight but I have you know, softball and Tuesday and Thursday whatever so it’s such a matrix, but The couple of things that were really trying to do is we work so closely with our town departments. And so we really honor those relationships and when I get a phone caller when Murray gets a phone call and somebody says, you know this though just got out of the hospital and is doing great, but we got to keep it and the other pieces is going Upstream to the younger kids and really trying to work on some of the
26:07 preventative stuff because it had upstream and you can catch them earlier around low level maybe issues of anxiety and depression. It’s not full-blown down the road in high school. So it’s it’s so complex. As far as the weight loss goes but we are fortunately I’m going to do that. I mean the nature of the business is you know has said case will do Universal no matter where you go. And so today this month. you’re employing strategy a to get a case load then next thing, you know. A Marblehead High School teenager, who is his father suddenly? Community response
26:53 You know, I mean it happens. So, you know you it’s like like being in a hospital, you know, everything is going smooth and all of a sudden the emergency room lights up and you’ve got to answer that and find somebody to take care of that. Do we have someone who can address that is? so I think they will probably always have a case. Look the issue is trying to get it to the point where to manageable case load and you’re not at a six-month waiting time. You’re in a more reasonable waiting time and you triage and those who that you those who can wait reasonable amount of time. But right now we don’t even have that luxury despite our Trail because everywhere
27:41 they have waiting list and no matter where they go They’re not going to get relief. But if they’re from Marblehead, I’d like to be around home. Which is why the arctic ones are so critical. for us to invest in this Center so that we can get the infrastructure where we needed to be.
28:04 So that we can attack the case that we can use our proper funds obviously the hire people, but we can use it. In ways that our clinicians are saying if you do this we can do this. If you improve this technology piece, we can do this. If you improve the office space can do that. I don’t want to still so that’s why you know having a sizable investment. in the building will help us to get make it a manageable case. Look. Okay. So let’s talk about those numbers. Oh, we have something that yeah.
28:43 These numbers are we’ve had and basically every chance we can people come out and talk to us or
28:55 Remember the board of experience in certain areas like nit here have given us the best estimates. We haven’t done any obviously going out getting in specs but not with or anything, but on based on what we know about the restrictions and requirements around the art of funds and
29:19 What the select word is put out in terms of an allocation to the Board of Health. We were asked to come up with some.
29:32 Uses of funds should you make a decision about helpfulness? He just walked through through, you know three different buckets. And talk about how we just know benefit the Counseling Center the community and are they kind of rated one through three or is it all top of the lists and just kind of walk us through this whole thing? That we thought of them. Is three different cats three individual categories of need and need that can be addressed by the article funds as we understand? their their appropriate uses so the first need is the issues around technology related equipment
30:17 and software and that’s
30:24 the need for a new server and approach Associated Network infrastructure Some new workstations as we were adding clinicians. and the cloud-based software is something that Terry could speak more detail about but it’s it’s for the
30:50 the management of that the health
30:54 payment system and right now ours is a very basic and awkward system. I would say yes. Yes.
31:07 to like do their notes or put information in there very there has to be a dedicated work space. Desktop that correlates to that because we’re not in the cloud on a server. So in order to be able to sort of expand when folks can log on get their notes done and the time we manner the cloud-based system is just head and shoulders. We’ve got the compliance. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And so the next one is what we talked about a bit already the expansion of the office space. and the critical
31:53 repairs as we see them. So with the critical comparison this the this is the interior buildup, not the exterior build value or anything. Well here there’s it’s both if the expansion of the office space is the interior build out and then the critical logs building repairs is the balcony. This being falling off and literally and the rear staircase. And so that’s that’s in here though. That’s the $35,000. That’s okay. Yeah. Yeah that we we when we did all the other work on the building. We painted you familiar. Yellow Hobbs building is now gray on Tucson. but
32:39 so we put in funding for you know building of that age. You don’t just slap on paint. It was a lot of lot of it and who gave you your estimates? the original painter that I
32:58 Now that the town paper the painting. I know I believe that came from our endowment the money I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, there’s been a lot that I assumed like they have been the windows and contract on the building where they might have been anything. They’re building where we have a very generous.
33:20 Red, we pay essentially close to no rent. And well we were paying no rent and then we started talking to the town about paying rent for the building and then
33:32 with covid that change but part of the arrangement was that we would take on some of the expenses and that’s why we’ve been fundraising and we had the lady and somewhere was generous benefits. and
33:46 in fact when we Did the interior work room construction was extremely generous in? the costs associated and Jean Herbert was on the board and we got a lot. She provided a tremendous amount of pro bono. work and expertise questions
34:10 Oh, and then the last one is the competitive environment for hiring and there’s there’s a Prohibition against using any of the Arkham funds or ongoing employment. But as we understand it. one time cross to clinicians are potential clinicians are getting this close to signing on and they say well, you know by I guess this place I could go to that place. What else can you do for me? I mean, it’s a real
34:52 seller’s market and a lot of things and including very competitive marketing. so
34:59 Eli nappersack from Marblehead is on our board. He runs the treatment centers of American Danvers and we he’s been invaluable as a board member giving us his
35:12 his physics and not just his advice when his experience and they have had to change their mind. the way they hire people What they have to pay they had to do with their constantly reworking all of that for themselves and he’s been helpful in giving us guidance as to what what the market demands are right now. So we think that if we could bring on a couple more clinicians that could help us with. in so many ways as well for talking about and that may require having fun instead of a pool of funds that we could use for this purpose. What are these notes below which criteria poster
35:59 number one and number four and oh, there’s the I think the town document. Yeah the time when over a year ago, the discussions first started about Africans, they made clear that they were five criteria that we should be. Usually it’s the board of selectness priority prioritization criteria one through five. So I can send you a copy. That doesn’t mean I think that it just doesn’t mean that. It’s a number one priority or four we we see these three and Universal itself. All right.
36:42 Yeah, yeah, the state had some guidelines in the select board kind of. Right-tune knows yet some more perspectives. Some of them obviously are applicable to the town in general. Correct like a replenishes resource. Yeah, exactly. Right our research one number two. And yeah expire the question about our do we get the friends and then allocating to thousand they get your own? No Board of Health has received 200,000 and it’s our job to help you. Yeah.
37:20 So 252 200 200 and to do for things that made me that our role. No, it’s it’s really for mental health service. So yeah. But we might want to do something for our tests. Yes. That was another that’s and they will know. Yes, they can come into us with request as well right here. and you know, I’m gonna say nice. To show you just yeah Marilyn. Yeah, we’re gonna get the Opera and we’re gonna go treat Swampscott people. I mean not that I didn’t grow up in swamps, but good wonderful education there. I don’t know whether I
38:06 Our numbers continue to be the largest majority is is mental health. But if we have a waitlist now can’t we just close our practice to swamps that like doctors doing another? So the revenue that we bring in health just sustain the counseling. So if we have Marblehead as the priority on that Matrix for the weight loss we deal with that satisfies, you know sort of that mean now we’re going to expand and do sort of this partnership with the schools. So that’s another kind of way that we can satisfy those daytime. some of the folks Salem swampsca and other communities it’s very very low percentage, but those
38:52 folks Know how money goes there those folks are paying with their insurance which then creates Revenue to help support keep the summer going. So none of them are Using evidence. No, not one not but they are taking clinical out.
39:14 Was a win but not the prioritize so we do again the Matrix. So where there is a slot that will work from airport clients. They will always get the priority right overhead. So other people come in is because there’s room and there’s no Marvel at people if there’s Marblehead people to system is designed the intake system. They have the priority. So you would cancel an appointment with somebody that maybe has six? Well, I can’t speak with you and I’m assuming he hasn’t and it’s that yeah. yeah, that is desperate and somebody seen from swamps that maybe talking about more maintenance and yeah, yeah,
40:00 which triage all the time. You should also know that we are sensitive to that issue and board has spoken about it. And and we’re we’re looking to open some relations with the town of Swampscott and maybe a prize them as rooted tonight profile of what we’re doing. And so the chair here is Having some meetings and moving a little bit in that direction to open that dialogue as well. Then you can get some funding from right that’s that’s the point.
40:40 Yeah, and again, that would be restrictive right? It is coming off Veterans Day. Is there relationship? I know lots of entrance access their care elsewhere, but is there absolutely okay. Yeah. Can you speak to that a little bit? I think especially in this guy Dave on myself. Oh, yeah, excellent that translation. Um, so yeah, there are a blend of models that work best for Veterans for some folks. It’s wonderful for them to have all of their medical and mental health under one room for others. That’s not the case at all and they have a home health worker. You know, we have a wonderful board member Felicia
41:26 who has a wonderful home care business here in town and she does a lot of work with our veterans as well. And so a lot of times it will be blend of that. They can see our Psychiatrist as a prescriber maybe they go to the VA or their medical but absolutely great benefit you had in relationship that the health department has with moral accounting Center is that if we find a situation where we need them immediately, they come out immediately and so it’s a huge benefit so we can pull Tay out of an online say hey, I need your help and she showed up or that you know other people it tends to be here. But any situation over we need some extra Social Services, they’re always there
42:14 to help them. So that’s a huge benefit to my department to the police department as well as Steve Rogers and stuff like that with a veterans, so don’t forget to helping Authority. Okay, right.
42:30 You know things that they know him because they we’re you know, one of the organizations that they support the most in the town and they did really support the hiring of the case manager who has really just taken up and run with it. So lease Bloomberg is providing case management and defense just for our multiple folks. So what we did have providers being last Friday, one of the things that came up was talking about putting together a website where everybody can go to where you can see all these different services. I see on here that you’re putting together a server and all this. Is that something that you guys in house is that no that you guys can take on as that and say rather
43:16 than trying for the talent to build this Marblehead Counseling Center could build this and we could you know, obviously the resource. Yeah, it’s right. It’s just a resource baby. That’s something that you know, there is a need for the community we talked about this the other day. Absolutely, you know, I see here. So yeah, it’s just a little bit harder for the town to do some of that stuff and it might come off a little bit better that it’s not a town website that it is Marvel and Counseling Center. I’m sure it’s gonna be there’s gonna be other ones that fastest State and coming along but I think that could be he’s done. Yeah, we’ve been in the works on that and we did a couple years back work with the town to add that little community resource
44:01 with it, but that’s a pretty flat. Yeah sort of system. So absolutely a lot of times. People in crisis they don’t necessarily think are going to be found on our level of being or wander and I’m sure yes, so that might be a really good benefit for us. Well, that’s why these funds are urgent because we can talk here about these things. But if we don’t have money we
44:28 Can’t Implement design office. The last question I had was that and this came up here. So we have 60,000 in our invited that you know supports you. Obviously. No you always come back to us every year to talk about budgets. Would you guys be looking for us to increase that or how is that sixty thousand dollars doing I mean regardless of their funds I think women and March and we sort of made our ask To those of that March meeting and I can never sing enough about how much you have stayed with us throughout the years. And I know that there were times that it probably was close to if not on the chopping block and you always had our back. So I think
45:14 that March meeting we had talked about restoring that additional 60,000. So like ideally if you want money, that’s really right. That’s yeah. Okay. I just we have is I’m not sure, but I think I represented. There’s a consensus evolving. on the board that we need to spend a little more time this year on that so we truly represent what The need is and how we can so I think of the
46:02 advisable maybe that we come back not. A stake a number tonight. That’s why but come back. It’s just a starting. Yes. That’s all I want to make sure this is going to talk but briefly about with the chair of the selected. So right up to the top they’re aware that we’re we ourselves have needs and then we know that you have needs that we have cut back. As I said decades ago, and this is a direct benefit to the community. You know, it’s my tax dollars directly benefiting another Community number. So it is a good and it’s and that the current sixty thousand dollar level is expended.
46:51 Well before the end of the fiscal year and obviously like the one thing we’re talking about budgets. I’m gonna want to know the number of hours of services these numbers provide because I know you guys can do all that. Yeah, right right. Now we’re we can go into this when we talk about it. But the way we basically juggle what we what we charge the town for and then if we get us and An independent other source to cover that then there are other opportunities. I would pay different number than you know somebody else. So I understand it’s a signing scale and stuff like that, but that was really good. So I do feel like we have a lot of support and everyone’s really recognizing the need
47:39 in our community and I think we have you know, the schools and the police department and the YMCA, you know, everybody who’s the only thing that uses they can shake their hands but it’s coming up out of that budget. So that’s the thing we have to work and most of that you
47:56 we’re right. We understand this all of our context of what I what I’ve heard is a really serious Deep dive into the Provisions, correct. Yeah, it would be a good time you think for us to come back? so that we meet you in January your your timetable for condemning the budget Junior was being in January to be the student of the Town that’s gonna lay, you know the budget platform. Yeah the next fiscal year going forward after the state of town. We start to pull their budgets. We’re all looking at budgets now moving forward to understand. You know, what our true needs are the hardest thing is, you know prices are yeah,
48:42 it’s hard. I mean we know construction. I understand. It’s like a 9% escalation like there’s always different things. So and we can put different numbers to it, but generally be a good time and there’s any time you you’re always welcome. On the side before you come forward Swanson. You interior will be in touch and that’s recording. It looks like you’re you’re asking. I read everything’s about 145,000. Yeah, that’s that’s right. That’s yeah. so the 200 we have your requesting two Thursdays right not having us event and understanding that once you Figure that all out. That was well. I
49:28 would love when we move into the myth as a great you guys one each day report. Sure. Yes, you are about Services. It sounds as though most services are individual you have we have one occasions done group parenting groups and groups within the schools for certain population or just therapy groups though. Yeah, the number of conversations at the board level about that and and that Eli has mentioned that they they do that and his Center and so we’re definitely open to bringing it back
50:14 in where he is located in the past. It’s been done and every color that I code
50:24 that sort of paying out there but being able to join a group and then when something opens up and yeah, so that there’s some some way they pulled taken care, right? Yeah no time. It’s a great question. I meant to ask the question about group sessions because it is coming up a lot. It’s like it is a way to service a larger group of people until they can get into private session. Yeah, there’s also a huge benefit for me because there can be some you know you and I can talk and then we can talk on the side and we can develop this relationship that you know Blossom and be kind of mind therapy that I you know, it can expand and it is it, you know, it’s a good form of, you know, another capacity. Please do it, right. We have been discussing that in the forward level.
51:11 I mean, there’s many models that have worked for many years and stuff like that. This is just, you know, just another idea like telemedicine. Absolutely. Right. So I’m really grateful to have a chance to talk about the Marblehead and about that fourth and he said this need looks like it’s 3/4 of the arpa funding that’s been allocated to Marblehead to rescue our mental health care and Marblehead and I can tell you that if I go back over our minutes for the mental health task force. 3/4 of our meetings is spent talking about the counseling center and the crisis that exists there with respect to the resources. And so I think what I can I feel comfortable describing and
51:57 anyone is welcome and invited to come to the mental health platform meetings so that we have to post the meeting but yeah, right. Yeah, you’re not if you that’s right. I’m sorry, if any one of us. Oh, that’s really but you can always watch it afterwards and then you know, thank you Helena, but the the Counseling Center has joined several of our meetings and shared with us the fiscal crisis that they’re dealing with their and the conversations that we have on a task force really are resounding about will this is a resource that so many communities throughout our Commonwealth would give their right it for right? I mean
52:43 50 years ago the community identified this need and concern for mental health care and there was there already many challenges probably many more challenges in that time frame to accessing mental health care services and
53:01 I think they shipped lots of people that were suffering away get them out of here. Right and Marblehead did something bold and said we were going to build this here and meet the need that is alarming our residents here. And that’s been a strong powerful resource in our community that I think really distinguishes itself throughout the Commonwealth. So when we get these archophones, I would I would imagine that many many communities in the Commonwealth are saying well Where Do We Begin where do we do because look at this challenge before us and here’s it’s you know amount of investments in recipe funds and Where Do We Begin? I don’t think we have to look to begin. We’ve got it. It’s here. It’s strong. It works
53:47 with that committing individuals that put their time and energy and investment into this resource in our town and
53:58 Though I think we have these dollars and on our task force. We constantly say what do we need to do? How can we do this and I’ll share that for over a year.
54:11 I joined the task force in June of 2021. And so now we’ve got this impacts of money. We had a budget of zero dollars and we accomplished a whole lot on zero dollars and I’m Thrifty. I would like to have, you know, a little bit of opportunity to have someone help me with website and have some branding tool and resources. Maybe if we could find a speaker that could really bring penetious impact to our residents. I think we’d like to invest in that but when we’re looking at this Dollar amount I feel really confident and I can share that the task force has listened to the story of the council Center and is really passionate about supporting and buttressing this resource that we we cherish and value. So that is
54:57 my report for the mental health task force for the most of our meetings have really identified this needed urgent and when these dollars were allocated
55:11 To mental health in our community. That was that was the direction everybody. And constant support I think the best thing for the board of being for you to take this back, you know, their presentation their numbers bring it back to the mental health passwords and say hey, this is what they’re suggesting or you’re coming to ask for. Yeah, do we have an ass? Do you know can we know can we put some numbers on a piece of paper to say this is what we want to spend a branding. This is what we want to spend on a speaker series. This is what we want to know potentially has been on a website so we can kind of put it through budget together now, obviously they have hard numbers and yours might be a little softer. You’re not gonna know what your speakers are and what the costs are but I think you could probably
55:57 budget out a little bit, you know with your good thing you have and then we could have a complete budget to understand. All right, let’s this is where we’re gonna allocate our real problems and we can get everybody moving. It is a guy, you know, it is I mean now and so we can start to help more people and keep and do what Barbara was having to do this a couple of people recovery is the money available. Yeah. So in other words if they need something Next month. Yes, we could. Yeah.
56:30 then I I think I mean I absolutely agree with you and I know we need to sit down and do some budgeting but I
56:41 Have to stress. I can’t stress enough jobs. Yes you much better at that. I but I think you know we went from expected zero to you know, and and they’re it’s very well understood by all the members of the task force that this resources it had the urgency and we do have a meeting coming up. on November 28th at 7 pm and we can prioritize that and then and I do not talk about it, you know outside of the student. Okay, you and Moses might want to just meet and Moses very good budget. It’s so really sit down with words. It’s a talk budgets a little bit and discuss what we’re doing here. Okay, and he might be able to come up with a pretty good plan pretty quickly or at least present people
57:28 to present to the group and that’s okay. Yeah, so December 12, I think it is we can but I was just we’ll talk about that way, but I was wondering if we wanted to intermitting because of the urgency of some of this I you know, I think you need to have their meeting occur. I no, I’m not disagreeing with you.
57:53 I’m feeling that. I definitely they know how close I feels of housing center because that’s causing it. But but we also have this new mental health task force and I would like to see them do some programming which would help like we’re talking about a massive people that maybe walk out the door and talk and say what’s a coffee and I think it also had will serve a benefit and they have had some programming and it’s been locally everyone and good wonderful programming. I don’t think they gave honorariums or whether they came from free or not making sure that’s good. But I think that it is time to step up our little mental health task force
58:39 and I think you want to and enormous job and Anonymous service to the community and marvelous school and when we put this together
58:52 I was I was very excited about it. First of all, we all were very excited about it, but I thought it was moving very slowly and you know that I was because that’s not the way I operate and now it’s just
59:08 So just smooth as a as a whistle and just going up about having programming. And meeting and making decisions and I just think it’s doing a wonderful job. I think you need to be also reimburse with some things that you might want to bring in from outside. Yeah, so obviously, you know, there’s but 5,000 that you more but that’s right because I don’t want a great work. So we want to make sure you got opportunity. present a budget that you make this time for me to say what I Again, wrote the Counseling Center. I wanted to get at least 120 altogether, but I’m not sure I’m interested in the structural. But okay, so let me talk to town but those are things that I’m
59:54 I was going to wait till the next meeting. But yeah, let me just put it out there. Yeah, and I I would say right now. I don’t think anybody on this board would refuse the 60,000 plus but so So we need to have that the discussion with the town about the building. Yeah, I don’t think that when we can kind of do that a little bit together, right? Yeah. It’s it’s just like The reason we put it in there in the lanes. There’s then this criteria that you guys investment in infrastructure with long-term benefit to the town. And in priority to begin the projects that wanted.
1:00:37 Don’t have an alternative funding or access to funding whether we’d be available and free support the economic development and Recovery priorities Margo so anything so we saw it as a source for. supporting Keeping the Hobbs building in good.
1:00:57 repair and it’s outside the towns and reticularly that’s part of the infrastructure but the town owns the building the town owns the building and what health doesn’t own the building, right? So that’s all I’m saying, right? So she just making sure she’s taking the art of guidelines right or something drafted and you know, making sure everybody kind of picks in this and so she’s taking the fun. They’re making sure they take that box in this fashion, which is the right application. All right here you hold hardly about I don’t want to spend or I’d rather not spend mental health dollars on a building. So I think we need to go back to the town and say, you know, is there
1:01:42 more money available here for you guys to fix the building, but it so like we’ll get System of money. No, it’s not. Okay. All right. Well, that’s just my No, my thoughts waiting here. Now the later on one thing to be here in five minutes here. Whatever. It’s no I I also the you know, we want to make sure that people get the care that they need but the way you just read that criteria. It does completely fall under that so it’s it’s a fine line we have to walk right? It’s we have we have The needs of figuring out ways to provide services to as many people as possible. And then we also have a responsibility to to our organization and to the town that
1:02:29 the building that the activities. take place in is safe and secure and this is a way to fund that. um without using Town tax dollars like this is our tax dollars that work in terms of federal money coming down.
1:02:54 It really is the way to look at it is you’re not using can so the federal government has essentially said We want you to invest. in mental health whether it’s and they are the ones that put in. facility infrastructure, so
1:03:18 You know, what we’re doing is is following that request. That’s the problem really with any sort of social.
1:03:28 Programs federal or state funding they come attached you have to do, you know this you have to do what they want. You may want us to do something else but something else that then hit there. So we’re saying to you under the criteria presented to us. And based on us our our needs this is the best match we could come up with so I wouldn’t look at it. Like oh, well, you’re gonna pair the Hogs and you know, we should go back and and look at the town. Can they do my Overview of the town this year will be a challenging year financially. Let’s just say that so
1:04:15 This is beneficial to the town a town building gets. Rehabbed if you will for like a better term or prevented from failing in terms of preventive maintenance painting. following staircases, whatever you want to call it people being injured people get injured to the town, you know, I mean so that so
1:04:40 I’d like you to look at that and the thing I’d like to say and I really say disrespectively is that the discussions for the aquapons you said urgent now? No, no urgent now it was urgent a year and a half ago. When the Counseling Center engaged with the previous Town Administrator in this select board about putting Mental Health Online. So we have really been waiting 18 months. And what’s has saved us? Is a Goodwill of a big donor here or there or whatever but as you know, you know, we this this will make things certain. We will know that we will have space to hire.
1:05:28 To put more people we know that we will get the cloud which will stop being an obstacle. to treatment so and I dare say time is of the essence and that’s an obstacle to us being able to treat people you want us to address the way once we get it. But any obstacle that our way in time because it’s been a while. In a respectfully again. It’s just one of them. I just say that so it’s a very hard thing to navigate. We honestly going to do and respect what you want. But I just remember board member and I’m a little bit of a newbie. I did experienced my good friend Elaine or two ladies on my lip, but I can tell you I’m nearing the
1:06:14 meetings and I’m listening about what the cash flow was in a month and how many children and Marblehead are waiting to be served and it’s better Etc and
1:06:28 it concerns. Thank you. Yeah. so particularly if I can just sum up we have to decide arpa funding we have to work on our overall yearly budget and and help you run as well as possible. Feel free to what we can and so we’re not done with our discussion. But I’m glad I’m glad you’re here to start the discussion or continue if it’s always been going on and we’ll we’ll talk more in December. We’ll know more with the mental health task courses decided and and that’s what we’ll go and I don’t know any more caring people than the three of us. Oh, yeah, Dr. Becker
1:07:14 was right you’re doing a design.
1:07:19 So here has happened, right? We know that we really appreciate you know that you
1:07:36 finish your updates were but yes, I think that well a couple more things that I may because I want to show you this awesome. He
1:07:49 We had our last meeting was was very.
1:07:54 Much it was very energetic around stigma and we were talking about right now everywhere. You look everyone knows someone suffering with mental health issues and the fact that everyone knows and cares about someone that’s having this relevant in that relevance in their life. It’s probably really great time up the efforts to reduce stainless Association health because everyone’s affected and Everyone Cared about someone affected. It may be that moment. So we’re looking at ways to address that and find solutions to build.
1:08:33 Build more tolerance and reduce stigmas around concerning mental health and one of the things that’s going on at our Marvel head Public Schools. Is that the Marblehead rotary funded with presented at the school committee meeting they funded a mindfulness programming called the inner Explorer and it was recently rolled out. The data are so exciting to see how it helps students throughout their day improving learning improving test scoring keeping people more engaged students more engaged and faculty more engaged. So it’s something really exciting that’s being rolled out at our public schools and something you’d like to support more of going forward. We’re interested in looking into
1:09:19 other mindfulness programming we can and that’s the community with we’re talking about having a mental health fair and similar to what we see at the YMCA of The JCC where there’s not just Clinical Services that you can connect people to but other listic approaches to augment well mental health Wellness, so that’s something we’re going to be championing going forward. No, good. And yeah, we did have a Marblehead service providers meeting on Friday. And Joanne was there and Moses was a lot of us were there and some of the other things we talked about as speaker series and the community on the web page that I brought up and the other thing that came up was, you know and editorials in the newspaper. So there’s gonna be a new
1:10:06 weekly print these paper that’s gonna be coming out and called the model a current I’m going they’re going and to be a print thing. Yeah, I’m gonna be a pretty paper and they’re gonna need some content. And so there’s some people there that you know, and kind of offer their services to write. Editorials and some other pieces which we thought was great. So we just want to make sure if anything other, you know people out there on the rights and these, you know editorial that this would be great, you know, obviously stigma is a big piece. We do feel that we’re on the verge of breaking the stigma about it. My Joanne said, there’s so many people that are unfortunately suffering with mental illness that you know, now we don’t hide about it we can talk about it. It is a good thing that we’re kind of getting packed past this we do like to you know,
1:10:54 we do live in the state of Massachusetts. So Massachusetts is great with health insurance. We just passed this stuff dental insurance piece. We would love for the community, you know this discussion to continue we want to speak with our state rep about you know, is it possibility of expanding mental health care and to our insurance and stuff like that? So we just want to continue to talk, you know talk about mental health and try to grow the discussion and see how far we can take it and see if we can get really big and put more dollars, you know places like Johnson Center. Have to be you know, trying to get donors. I mean, there should be money coming into them through Insurance. You know, it’s great that we’re able to do this. It’s just it seems like rise of their federal dollars going into these, you know services. So I just want
1:11:42 I look I sent this. Yeah, and I gave her a cop. Okay. Yeah, and I was at a meeting. and with the blue cjp, I sit on their board and they actually sit on their women’s board that make it accurate. And they this Mental Health Access here. We have partnering with the Jewish Family Service of Waltham, which Andrew said he’s aware of it and they have three hotlines all constantly and for referrals and types of you have lives referrals, but can you read her and they said yes, so so the number is here and they do not
1:12:29 ask your background in your religion or anything. Just everything everyone. So there’s your phone number and then they are partnering also with with McLean’s on it’s called a path to well-being. And that’s also something that they’re partnering with McLean and the Jewish Family Service and they’re having a suicide bereavement group for teens. That just outstanding. So if you want to you know, how reach out to someone there and you and you can reach out to them. And I I work directly today
1:13:15 with cjt. and she forwarded me this because I I was just I didn’t get a handle. It was just something that was talking about. So this handout is very Sketchy but at least it tells you what they’re doing and the three Rhymes and resources as the other word. That was the other trying to think of the other hour that was it referrals and resources. So, I think that even if you call but some resources absolutely I would suggest and they know that I brought this up tonight. Jay or CJ meeting cjp is a conventional and Amazing. I’m on the women’s philanthropy. I mean,
1:14:02 so. And so the idea with the website is that it would be a database that would have services with like this listed on there. And so people could go that page and say oh, you know, look at all these Services, I’m gonna call this one call that right the other thing that I just want to make sure everybody’s aware of is 98. So there’s a big state number now called 9 8 9 1 1 and that’s where it’s the emergency help mental health hotline and so it can be anything. I’m trying to find this but I just want to make sure everybody’s aware of that. I don’t know. Yeah. And the interviewing a student group and location to college last year at St. John’s Prep and design. I mean, he needs Services battling. Yeah, so it’s a great service. I think
1:14:48 we need to do a better job of making sure everybody’s aware of it, you know, obviously we’re talking to the States, you know, the states the one that’s pushing other information now, but we need to get this, you know to as many people as possible. We’re hoping that they’ll do even greater push. Obviously, they’re doing ads and stuff like that. We’re hoping to see postcard and a whole bunch of stuff come out and the other website. Yeah, exactly. All right. I don’t remember which station it wasn’t NPR.
1:15:17 Thank you. Yes, just clarification who are inner Explorer? What was the group on Marblehead rotary was the morning router the actor that let’s see. It is the Marblehead rotary. So not Marblehead Harper. Oh, yeah and Nancy Quinn chair of that very
1:15:44 he pardon me. They started the inner Explorer at the Okay to remember the public schools. That was one of their initiatives. Which we moved to the transition. Yeah, so, you know really know it’s just kind of a placeholder. We are having a meeting tomorrow one o’clock here on Dana will be doing this for Winter Street. I did send out some basic drawings and everything that everybody today. So we’ll be hopefully some great discussion to keep moving this project along just a little piece to go along with that. We have quite a bit of pop over around the paint and the scale house and we’re looking to have that fixed the next either it’s not
1:16:30 done this week. Hopefully next week you’re the week after so that one area will be paid.
1:16:37 To try to leave each of those issues have plenty of paying material around. Yeah, exactly. That’s a trial deviate some of the issues for the winter season and stuff like that. So, you know, I think several phone calls on that. So I think you’ll be helpful during this winter and stuff like that. As far as the report tomorrow is anything you want to zero in on the highway. No really take a look at the design of the scale house is the big discussion piece for tomorrow where that’s you know. Location-wise traffic flow that’s going to be the big discussion piece tomorrow scheduling and just making sure that we have a an ongoing list of items that we need to make sure that are in there. So he’s able to work it through he hasn’t grown it out of you. That’s great. So that’s good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It’s a scale still right in
1:17:25 front. Yeah. The scale itself is right in front of the compact there. It’s about it’s really so the scale itself is a good location. We’re confident where that should be. Okay. It’s about making sure that the scale house the employee River connected together and discussion about that where to play. Where is the best place to put that so A Trucking trailer can come through and there’s there’s always going to be that one piece of equipment that is gonna have, you know, maybe have to do another two-point turn or whatever. It’s never gonna be perfect for everybody. There’s always going to be the exception but we want to try to make it as best as possible for as many vehicles as possible. So looking at that and just you know, everything in general I’ve got a question. Yeah, you know what? I’m gonna ask too know what
1:18:10 she know what I was gonna ask. You can’t prescribe myself Terry Could Read My Money. You know, I’m thinking about every meeting is one of us that can’t attend it. Can we like maybe think about think about every other week of having it and the evening? So again the problems are as I have three town officials what will work from 5 to 6:30? Not not everybody Wishing by the sex someone’s day you close at six or six through six, but so that’s so and we can I can talk to them see what their schedules of life and meet your compromise. Yeah, it’s not really.
1:18:51 But yeah, I will discuss it with the other Town employees and see what they’re thinking like five o’clock because they seem to be pretty quick don’t we tried it? But you are gonna get into some more lengthy meetings as we kind of dive into some of this, you know, I try to be mindful of time and you know, yeah, it’s All right, so we’ll have further discussion at the yeah. Yeah, you want to go into waistbands? Oh, yeah. So waistbands. I just want to remind everybody again that starting January November 1st. We had a mattress and a textile waist in I just want to explain this again. So obviously mattresses and box brings to no longer go into the solid waste stream. They have to be recycled. So we have been doing this since 2018. It’s 25
1:19:38 dollars currently for mattress box spring air that number needs to go up. We’re gonna have to do a fee review at our meeting in December. We’ll be looking at mattresses. I think they’re gonna have to be somewhere around 305 dollars for the fair but we’re gonna look at numbers and make sure we’re looking at the whole state. What we don’t want to have is that we’re the cheapest in the North Shore and everybody’s bringing all our stuff to us. We’re not able to handle that what I don’t have the box spring and we just have to bring a mattress still 35 dollars. Doesn’t matter. Yeah, there’s no deals and we can go in a different direction. If you want to go that front that if you want it to be divided up. We have some other, you know numbers that other communities use to make sure they don’t what we can’t do is take anything
1:20:26 from another store exactly you’ll get. And you’ll in you because what happens is there’s a truck and be now association with everything and stuff like that. So, you know, we have to take a look at the numbers and what it costs us 30 for seconds material and not be that but yeah, this has been going on. This is the new is not new and marvelous practicing it right? Yeah. Yeah solid wasting so disposal fees need to go up or currently at 2:10. We’re looking at all of these currently in the region and the state and we’ll recommend the numbers of the board at meeting the summer as well. Any other things that we’re looking at this, you know tires CVS CVS, we’re looking all our fees and we’ll make it recommendation. The
1:21:13 one thing that we’re not looking at is the facility sticker for residents. We will talk about a little bit tomorrow about looking at who else uses the transfer station. So there is some commercial use for the recycling area that we need to figure out a pay system for them. Obviously. It’s gonna be some kind of a sticker obviously the only Marblehead businesses. You have to provide a bill to us to say, you know, my business is a Marvel head but it will allow Marblehead right business to recycle at our facility. Obviously, they’re able to use our solid waste facility and paper, you know, Wayne day for that. So, you know, that’s textiles. So it’s textiles are my shirts my bed sheets my linens and stuff like that my curtains what textiles aren’t
1:22:00 are rugs and carpets. So the state is not Banning the disposal and that’s always stream of carpets and rugs. And the main reason is is that textiles are going into moving bins. We want them to Magic cat the clothing events tend to be small and be sure to rug and that’s that the whole Space there’s not a so a lot of carpet companies can recycle large carpets, but for us in the clothing companies, they’re not able to do that. So I talked to the state about this recently and the rugs and carpets are not including textile band name those can be disposed of and it’s always string. But anything else so my my shirt even if it’s risks that still can be recycled. They can do it the red Market. It just needs to go through the laundry
1:22:48 and be dry and then you put it into a plastic bag and that can go into the bowspin. Obviously. We have a great relationship with magic hat. We love to see all these clothes look at them. They make them tremendous amount of money that gets done in.
1:23:03 The schools obviously all material comes into our facility we get to sell or you know, we get paid live sense of account for all the clothes if you don’t have a sticker and you can’t access our facility, you can go to been in square right next to Staples. There’s multiple boxes there. There’s Goodwill thanks to stop and shop and there’s several other churches and down. Yeah, right and shoes you can put curves and put any kind of yeah, but the textiles, you know, this is all gonna range from asking me they’re all aware of this there’s all market for it. And yes all those items. I just heard you say to take your shirt and put it in a plastic bag like because it asks me protected from the elements. So you walk these items to stay dry. You don’t have to have the company now have the wander the items again. So everything going into
1:23:51 explosions need to be and that’s right. Okay, so we have a book made up of the transfer station. It’s overwhelms. At times, you know a lot of times when people do between I’ll see a huge number of books. You know, I I don’t know the book market so hard cover books can’t go into your cycle been curbside softcover books. Can the reason is that there’s a bunch of different products in the cover of the book and absolutely that’s prohibited. I’m going to the recycling bin curbside. And so yeah, we do have a little bit up there, you know today was full. Obviously we call the company when it’s full but I’m not quite sure what they’re turning around is they’re going to do that.
1:24:39 Um directors report, you know, like you said anything we’re gonna do some small Paving of the branches station and that’s going to be you know, probably a day probably a morning. It could be a whole day over the next week week and a half when we do that. The facility will be closed. As soon as we know of the schedule. The pavers are I think in town starting end of the week as soon as we have the schedule, we’ll make sure we’re trying to get out there is to as many people as possible posted a transfer station. We’ll post it online. But please bear with us, you know, we’re trying to get this sort of done. I know it’s anything you will be girls for short period of time but there is a large benefit to it, um opioid settlement. So the town did receive an opioid settlement we received for the next five years
1:25:27 101 923,000. So we have a working group on opioid working group. It’s the police chief. It’s myself. It’s the fire chief the town. I’m going to share. And we’re coming up with a budget and what we would like to use those funds for so it’s in the obviously a lot of services and so we’re just working through some of those numbers and make sure we have all the numbers together and then we’ll reconvene. I guess in December and decide on how we want to spend money every every Community good. Fun in terms of private. You have to be part of the settlement originally. So you had you had to sign on to the settlement? I’m trying to think of how many years ago. We started to that consumers, you know, it was individual towns.
1:26:14 I hope some education is all yes. There was a hundred thousand 993 dollars. Yeah over five years or each over five years old.
1:26:26 Today, I gave a presentation to sustainable Marblehead on the holiday recycling. So I just want you know you they did reports you might see out there. So make sure to wear that on December 7th, December 7th is our next household has a space day. Again, that’s run by ACV. That’s a pay per service. They’ll come directly to your home pick up these so what do you call could you tell me audience then? Yeah, so you will go online. We’ll post the sign up page in the next couple of days you go online you sign up with the company you pay by credit card and it’s all the transaction is between you and AC.
1:27:07 Into your polymer recycling just I always say a reader you cannot recycle wrapping paper straight. So a lot of experiment that paper and believe who I can recycle wrapping paper is that it’s got a high Quaker contents. So it’s very glossy and so it’s not a recyclable. So we want to remind everybody to use recycle smart Mass, which is has the recyclopedia on there and see go on there. You take the night on that you think you want to recycle or you’re trying to recycle and I’ll tell you exactly where you can put it wrapping paper. It goes in the trash. Um, just so you know some things that you can do, you know, if you know, it’s gonna be thrown away in the trash you can buy products that contain or say material to create them. So you should be able to find you know, all right oversight wrapping paper that’s made with recycled
1:27:55 paper or use paper bag or paper. Yeah, really like you stay for something that’s gonna get a second life out of it. Now the paper bag and like I said today anybody’s got a lot of paper bags up to covid. Able to do it you can decorate it yourself. So a lot of tips like that getting rid of junk mail getting rid of catalogs. I think I had like 12 or 15 different items that we talked about and obviously the biggest one is composting.
1:28:23 Talk about the waistbands the textiles and mattresses and the fees. So that’s really Implement directors report. Thank you. So anything anything?
1:28:39 no matter
1:28:42 if you wanted to have a mean report.
1:28:47 discuss any of these with the mental health. Yeah and that Monday. We need the 30s.
1:29:01 I’m not through the 30s is that Tuesday? That’s okay. We got Thanksgiving next week. I don’t know who’s gonna be. But they call and in the next two weeks and if we wanted to have time to work talk about the appearance of a good offensive as soon as possible. I mean if we needed at the December meeting will be ready to
1:29:28 Give them a favor I think so. Yeah, I think so you do. Yeah. All right. Can we see that paper that she was talking about? Yeah. So that you’ll get to us. Yeah, you haven’t I have it but I haven’t answered. I’m sure I sent it out because we created the document but I have like I have to think back to a bunch of emails which means quicker for her to send it to me and I’ll send it out. Yeah, and so you’re saying that we’ve already gotten yeah, because if you’re asking for 145 ish and you you’re meeting decide you want to use 50 then we’re we’re old. Yeah, yeah.
1:30:07 And I just need to listen to what they said. So a part of our is creating infrastructure. So you can’t you can’t take the dollars and hire a person. That’s not what Harper was about. It’s a long term use of, you know funds to expand Services. How do you do that? You do that by building infrastructure You’re Building infrastructure by using it on the building itself. Without you a toilet, you know bathroom, that would be long lasting it would be something that they would use inside the building that’s you ramp up the balconies in the footings, right? That’s so if you don’t have your foundation you can’t have your Apple. I understand that is that
1:30:53 the tenants responsibility? Yeah. So that’s the kind of the conversation. I just want to talk to John and see you know, I want to see the language in the contract. I believe it is they’re responsibility. It’s a ten as the tenant that was kind of their dreaming. But again, that is infrastructure, so so yeah, you’ll find that out you that’s
1:31:17 talking to Ms. Miller about things that we could have used some of that money, right? So we’re you know, they’re potentially allocated and potentially allocating a 55,000 to the mental health task force. Obviously, we want to give them the opportunity to discuss this and say, oh we need more money than that. That’s not going to get us anything so they can come back and give us a presentation and say this is what we want to spend it on and then you can figure out how you want to so, can you get the answer? So my question so the treatment when Joanne runs our meeting she’ll know what money is available or could she shouldn’t she should create her own budget regardless of their budget? Are you?
1:32:03 Other $155,000 and then you guys gonna have to decide out to me. Yeah, but I know her better than that. She didn’t do it. I should be in that scene here. Just I mean Joanna the mental health will have the same Arbor criteria. Great can’t just decide. Oh, no great. That’s right. I think you’re gonna have the same person correctly. It’s a unique problem where you are have, you know, a sum of money. It’s not as easy to spend as you want to do this limitation. Okay, is it that can it be spent in one years? You have to be more than you know, it’s two years. It’s multiple years, but
1:32:49 obviously, so you’re gonna The need is Extreme. So if you delay the spending money and obviously if they said they want to say $50,000 per speaker series over the next couple of years. That would be understandable. Yeah, but if you’re gonna say we’re gonna do a lot a little bit here and a little bit there there might be some questions. All right, so they have to have a specific. Yeah, and I would suggest that a speaker series in three years is not addressing the Urgent the relief and emergency situation of mental health codes and coping that this funding was built me. So really it’s not going here.
1:33:32 When your committee will decide, you know, do you have any comments tonight? Yeah. Okay. I’ve already made it. Okay by comments are all right. Thank you. Very computer doing this, you know, all right, the new motion to adjourn. So next meeting is December 12. Monday this time miss you. Anyway in favor Joshua title my favorite. Thanks everybody.