School Committee: December 20, 2022

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0:03 so nice to have you back in the office so nice to have you back in the office it’s<00:00:03.659> good<00:00:03.899> to<00:00:04.080> be<00:00:04.200> back

0:41 so I’m just trying to see who we have so I’m just trying to see who we have here here here um<00:00:43.559> we're<00:00:44.160> still<00:00:44.399> waiting<00:00:44.940> on<00:00:45.059> a<00:00:45.180> couple um we’re still waiting on a couple um we’re still waiting on a couple people<00:00:45.600> I<00:00:45.960> believe are you guys having the feedback issue are you guys having the feedback issue again

1:20 are we doing audio test test test are we doing audio test test test for<00:01:21.119> feedback

1:26 everything’s moving back to me everything’s moving back to me right<00:01:27.659> now

2:11 I believe we have everybody right now I believe we have everybody right now Alec<00:02:11.640> and<00:02:11.760> Thatcher<00:02:12.120> are<00:02:12.239> coming<00:02:12.420> in<00:02:12.599> as<00:02:12.900> we Alec and Thatcher are coming in as we Alec and Thatcher are coming in as we speak

2:22 all right so I will call us to order all right so I will call us to order then<00:02:23.220> at then at then at 102<00:02:26.099> and<00:02:27.060> open<00:02:27.300> for<00:02:27.540> a<00:02:27.720> public<00:02:27.840> comment<00:02:28.260> if 102 and open for a public comment if 102 and open for a public comment if there<00:02:28.620> is<00:02:28.800> any<00:02:29.099> threes<00:02:30.060> your<00:02:30.239> hands there is any threes your hands there is any threes your hands all<00:02:33.480> right<00:02:33.660> that<00:02:33.900> moves<00:02:34.140> us<00:02:34.260> along<00:02:34.500> to<00:02:34.980> the<00:02:35.400> FY all right that moves us along to the FY all right that moves us along to the FY 23<00:02:36.180> budget<00:02:36.540> update<00:02:36.900> and<00:02:37.020> I'll<00:02:37.200> kick<00:02:37.379> this<00:02:37.500> off 23 budget update and I’ll kick this off 23 budget update and I’ll kick this off to<00:02:37.800> Michelle

2:43 um I don’t want to certainly go over the um I don’t want to certainly go over the entire<00:02:43.440> report<00:02:43.739> that<00:02:43.980> I<00:02:44.160> gave<00:02:44.220> to<00:02:44.400> the<00:02:44.519> school entire report that I gave to the school entire report that I gave to the school committee<00:02:45.420> um<00:02:45.480> a<00:02:45.599> few<00:02:45.720> weeks<00:02:45.959> ago<00:02:46.200> but<00:02:46.680> I<00:02:46.920> did committee um a few weeks ago but I did committee um a few weeks ago but I did actually<00:02:47.220> just<00:02:47.580> email<00:02:47.819> it<00:02:48.180> to actually just email it to actually just email it to um all<00:02:49.620> of<00:02:49.739> the<00:02:49.860> members<00:02:50.160> of<00:02:50.340> the<00:02:50.640> town<00:02:50.760> and um all of the members of the town and um all of the members of the town and school<00:02:51.180> group<00:02:51.420> here<00:02:51.660> just<00:02:52.080> so<00:02:52.200> you<00:02:52.319> guys<00:02:52.440> would school group here just so you guys would school group here just so you guys would all<00:02:52.739> have<00:02:52.920> it all have it all have it um<00:02:53.940> just<00:02:54.180> wanted<00:02:54.300> to<00:02:54.540> mention<00:02:54.660> we're<00:02:54.959> doing um just wanted to mention we’re doing um just wanted to mention we’re doing okay<00:02:55.319> with<00:02:55.560> our<00:02:55.680> budget<00:02:55.980> for<00:02:56.099> the<00:02:56.220> current okay with our budget for the current okay with our budget for the current year<00:02:56.660> fy23<00:02:57.660> there<00:02:58.500> are<00:02:58.620> a<00:02:58.739> couple<00:02:58.920> areas<00:02:59.400> that year fy23 there are a couple areas that year fy23 there are a couple areas that we’re<00:02:59.760> watching<00:03:00.120> closely we’re watching closely we’re watching closely um<00:03:01.260> one<00:03:01.500> is<00:03:01.620> custodian<00:03:02.160> salaries<00:03:02.640> and<00:03:02.819> over um one is custodian salaries and over um one is custodian salaries and over time<00:03:03.239> we've<00:03:03.660> been<00:03:03.840> short<00:03:04.459> custodial time we’ve been short custodial time we’ve been short custodial positions<00:03:05.940> the<00:03:06.180> entire<00:03:06.599> school<00:03:06.840> year positions the entire school year positions the entire school year currently<00:03:08.099> have<00:03:08.400> five<00:03:08.700> vacancies<00:03:09.300> we<00:03:09.540> are currently have five vacancies we are currently have five vacancies we are just<00:03:09.900> unable<00:03:10.319> to<00:03:10.500> fill<00:03:10.940> two<00:03:11.940> of<00:03:12.060> those just unable to fill two of those just unable to fill two of those positions<00:03:12.840> we're<00:03:13.080> actually<00:03:13.260> filling<00:03:13.680> with positions we’re actually filling with positions we’re actually filling with contracted<00:03:14.400> workers<00:03:14.760> and<00:03:15.000> that<00:03:15.120> is<00:03:15.239> at<00:03:15.480> a contracted workers and that is at a contracted workers and that is at a substantial<00:03:16.019> cost substantial cost substantial cost um<00:03:17.580> much<00:03:17.879> higher<00:03:18.180> than<00:03:18.360> if<00:03:18.540> we<00:03:18.659> in<00:03:18.840> we<00:03:19.260> hired um much higher than if we in we hired um much higher than if we in we hired just<00:03:19.980> employees<00:03:20.519> to<00:03:21.300> fill<00:03:21.420> that<00:03:21.599> role just employees to fill that role just employees to fill that role um<00:03:22.980> so<00:03:23.280> I<00:03:23.459> wanted<00:03:23.580> to<00:03:23.760> mention<00:03:23.940> that um so I wanted to mention that um so I wanted to mention that here<00:03:26.040> you<00:03:26.280> are<00:03:26.400> watching here you are watching here you are watching substitutes<00:03:28.140> we<00:03:28.319> seem<00:03:28.620> to<00:03:28.800> have<00:03:29.040> a

3:29 substitutes we seem to have a substitutes we seem to have a significant<00:03:29.760> number<00:03:30.000> of<00:03:30.180> teaching<00:03:30.540> absences significant number of teaching absences significant number of teaching absences we<00:03:31.319> are<00:03:31.440> able<00:03:31.680> to<00:03:31.800> attract<00:03:32.159> substitutes<00:03:32.760> but we are able to attract substitutes but we are able to attract substitutes but the<00:03:33.239> the<00:03:33.480> number<00:03:33.840> just<00:03:34.140> outpaces<00:03:34.739> the<00:03:34.920> number the the number just outpaces the number the the number just outpaces the number of<00:03:35.340> substitutes<00:03:36.120> available<00:03:36.360> right<00:03:36.780> now of substitutes available right now of substitutes available right now um<00:03:37.680> so<00:03:37.860> we<00:03:37.980> might<00:03:38.099> have<00:03:38.280> a<00:03:38.519> little<00:03:38.580> bit<00:03:38.760> of um so we might have a little bit of um so we might have a little bit of flexibility<00:03:40.019> there flexibility there flexibility there utilities<00:03:43.140> is<00:03:43.560> another<00:03:43.860> source<00:03:44.400> that<00:03:44.640> is utilities is another source that is utilities is another source that is completely<00:03:45.239> uh<00:03:45.720> volatile<00:03:46.200> at<00:03:46.440> the<00:03:46.620> current completely uh volatile at the current completely uh volatile at the current time<00:03:47.159> our<00:03:47.940> natural<00:03:48.239> gas<00:03:48.659> rates<00:03:49.319> are<00:03:49.680> locked<00:03:50.159> in time our natural gas rates are locked in time our natural gas rates are locked in through<00:03:50.879> March<00:03:51.420> but<00:03:51.780> however<00:03:52.200> as<00:03:52.739> of<00:03:52.920> the<00:03:53.159> end through March but however as of the end through March but however as of the end of<00:03:53.459> March<00:03:53.819> they<00:03:54.659> expire<00:03:55.080> we<00:03:55.440> had<00:03:55.560> a<00:03:55.739> three-year of March they expire we had a three-year of March they expire we had a three-year lock<00:03:56.280> so<00:03:56.580> we<00:03:56.700> locked<00:03:57.000> in<00:03:57.120> rates<00:03:57.480> from<00:03:57.659> three lock so we locked in rates from three lock so we locked in rates from three years<00:03:58.019> ago<00:03:58.260> which<00:03:58.560> was<00:03:58.680> actually<00:03:58.860> one<00:03:59.159> of<00:03:59.280> my years ago which was actually one of my years ago which was actually one of my first first first um

4:05 started in December of 19 I had locked started in December of 19 I had locked in<00:04:06.000> those<00:04:06.180> rates<00:04:06.480> and<00:04:06.659> it<00:04:06.780> was<00:04:06.900> a<00:04:07.080> great<00:04:07.200> thing in those rates and it was a great thing in those rates and it was a great thing for<00:04:07.560> three<00:04:07.739> years<00:04:07.980> however<00:04:08.519> it's<00:04:09.120> no<00:04:09.360> longer for three years however it’s no longer for three years however it’s no longer so<00:04:09.900> great<00:04:10.080> and<00:04:10.939> a<00:04:11.939> substantial<00:04:12.239> increase<00:04:12.480> for so great and a substantial increase for so great and a substantial increase for the<00:04:13.080> last<00:04:13.260> three<00:04:13.500> months<00:04:13.799> of<00:04:13.920> this<00:04:14.159> year<00:04:14.340> in the last three months of this year in the last three months of this year in addition<00:04:15.000> to<00:04:15.360> whatever<00:04:15.599> the<00:04:15.959> next<00:04:16.199> you<00:04:16.440> know addition to whatever the next you know addition to whatever the next you know the<00:04:16.799> coming<00:04:16.859> years<00:04:17.160> hold<00:04:17.579> but<00:04:18.239> we're<00:04:18.359> watching the coming years hold but we’re watching the coming years hold but we’re watching those<00:04:18.840> rates<00:04:19.139> right<00:04:19.320> now<00:04:19.440> we're<00:04:19.620> not<00:04:19.859> locking those rates right now we’re not locking those rates right now we’re not locking in<00:04:20.340> anything<00:04:20.639> just<00:04:21.180> yet in anything just yet in anything just yet um<00:04:22.079> trying<00:04:22.320> to notice that the electric rates are notice that the electric rates are increasing<00:04:30.960> in<00:04:31.320> January increasing in January increasing in January um<00:04:32.940> typically<00:04:33.419> our<00:04:33.900> annual<00:04:34.320> electric<00:04:34.620> budget um typically our annual electric budget um typically our annual electric budget is<00:04:35.580> about<00:04:35.880> seven<00:04:36.300> hundred<00:04:36.540> and<00:04:36.660> five<00:04:36.840> thousand is about seven hundred and five thousand is about seven hundred and five thousand dollars<00:04:37.820> we<00:04:38.820> take<00:04:39.060> about<00:04:39.300> 175<00:04:40.560> 000<00:04:40.680> out<00:04:40.919> of<00:04:41.100> the dollars we take about 175 000 out of the dollars we take about 175 000 out of the Town<00:04:41.520> reserve<00:04:42.240> for<00:04:42.419> the<00:04:42.660> energy<00:04:42.780> Reserve Town reserve for the energy Reserve Town reserve for the energy Reserve which<00:04:44.160> our<00:04:44.400> net<00:04:44.580> budget<00:04:45.060> is which our net budget is which our net budget is um

4:51 is 530 000 is 530 000 but<00:04:52.380> with<00:04:52.560> a<00:04:52.800> 30<00:04:52.919> increase<00:04:53.460> of<00:04:53.820> 33<00:04:54.180> increase but with a 30 increase of 33 increase but with a 30 increase of 33 increase our<00:04:55.440> annual<00:04:55.800> cost<00:04:56.040> is<00:04:56.280> looking<00:04:56.520> at<00:04:56.699> increasing our annual cost is looking at increasing our annual cost is looking at increasing about<00:04:57.300> two<00:04:57.600> hundred<00:04:57.840> twelve<00:04:58.199> thousand about two hundred twelve thousand about two hundred twelve thousand so<00:04:59.940> um<00:05:00.000> about<00:05:00.240> half<00:05:00.419> of<00:05:00.600> that<00:05:00.780> so<00:05:01.199> this<00:05:01.560> year so um about half of that so this year so um about half of that so this year the<00:05:02.100> electric<00:05:02.220> rate<00:05:02.580> impact<00:05:03.120> is<00:05:03.360> going<00:05:03.540> to<00:05:03.600> be the electric rate impact is going to be the electric rate impact is going to be about<00:05:03.840> a<00:05:04.080> hundred<00:05:04.320> thousand<00:05:04.680> hundred<00:05:05.580> and about a hundred thousand hundred and about a hundred thousand hundred and twenty<00:05:05.940> thirty<00:05:06.300> thousand<00:05:06.540> for<00:05:06.720> this<00:05:06.900> year twenty thirty thousand for this year twenty thirty thousand for this year um

5:13 and um that will carry forward into the and um that will carry forward into the FY<00:05:13.560> 24<00:05:13.919> budget<00:05:14.520> request<00:05:14.880> as<00:05:15.120> well FY 24 budget request as well FY 24 budget request as well and and and um

5:23 so far we’ve spent approximately 50 so far we’ve spent approximately 50 percent<00:05:24.360> of<00:05:24.660> our<00:05:24.840> budget percent of our budget percent of our budget um<00:05:26.520> a<00:05:26.820> lot<00:05:26.940> of<00:05:27.120> the<00:05:27.419> claims<00:05:27.900> will<00:05:28.259> fall<00:05:28.560> off um a lot of the claims will fall off um a lot of the claims will fall off shortly<00:05:29.340> because<00:05:29.580> they're<00:05:30.000> only<00:05:30.240> guaranteed shortly because they’re only guaranteed shortly because they’re only guaranteed up<00:05:31.020> to<00:05:31.139> six<00:05:31.380> months<00:05:31.740> so<00:05:32.580> hopefully<00:05:32.940> we<00:05:33.300> will<00:05:33.479> be up to six months so hopefully we will be up to six months so hopefully we will be able<00:05:34.080> to<00:05:35.220> um<00:05:35.280> survive<00:05:35.759> this<00:05:35.940> year<00:05:36.120> within<00:05:36.600> the able to um survive this year within the able to um survive this year within the budget<00:05:37.020> line<00:05:37.800> item<00:05:38.340> but<00:05:38.580> it<00:05:38.699> is<00:05:38.880> something budget line item but it is something budget line item but it is something we’re<00:05:39.240> watching<00:05:39.660> and<00:05:40.560> lastly<00:05:41.039> is<00:05:41.400> our<00:05:41.759> special we’re watching and lastly is our special we’re watching and lastly is our special education<00:05:42.660> costs education costs education costs um<00:05:43.979> both<00:05:44.280> in<00:05:44.520> the<00:05:44.699> areas<00:05:45.000> of<00:05:45.300> tuitions<00:05:45.960> and um both in the areas of tuitions and um both in the areas of tuitions and transportation<00:05:47.000> the<00:05:48.000> costs<00:05:48.479> have<00:05:48.900> increased transportation the costs have increased transportation the costs have increased greatly<00:05:50.220> since<00:05:50.520> we<00:05:50.699> last<00:05:50.880> set<00:05:51.120> our<00:05:51.300> budget greatly since we last set our budget greatly since we last set our budget last<00:05:52.020> year<00:05:52.199> the<00:05:52.500> finance<00:05:52.860> committee<00:05:53.220> was last year the finance committee was last year the finance committee was wonderful<00:05:54.000> and<00:05:54.300> actually<00:05:54.479> gave<00:05:54.780> us<00:05:54.960> a<00:05:55.199> 500<00:05:55.800> 000 wonderful and actually gave us a 500 000 wonderful and actually gave us a 500 000 buffer<00:05:56.580> because<00:05:56.759> we<00:05:57.000> had<00:05:57.120> so<00:05:57.360> many<00:05:57.479> kids<00:05:57.660> in buffer because we had so many kids in buffer because we had so many kids in the<00:05:58.020> pipeline<00:05:58.380> that<00:05:58.620> we<00:05:58.740> we<00:05:59.340> knew<00:05:59.639> our the pipeline that we we knew our the pipeline that we we knew our potentials<00:06:00.479> and<00:06:01.460> it<00:06:02.460> was<00:06:02.940> with<00:06:03.479> the<00:06:03.660> mental potentials and it was with the mental potentials and it was with the mental Mental<00:06:04.500> Health<00:06:04.800> crisis<00:06:05.400> going<00:06:05.639> on<00:06:05.820> right<00:06:06.120> now Mental Health crisis going on right now Mental Health crisis going on right now um<00:06:07.259> but<00:06:07.440> as<00:06:07.680> of<00:06:07.860> right<00:06:08.160> now<00:06:08.460> our

6:09 um but as of right now our um but as of right now our transportation<00:06:09.720> line<00:06:10.139> our<00:06:10.560> commitments<00:06:11.100> are transportation line our commitments are transportation line our commitments are 458<00:06:12.539> 000<00:06:12.720> higher<00:06:13.199> than<00:06:13.440> anticipated<00:06:13.979> already 458 000 higher than anticipated already 458 000 higher than anticipated already with<00:06:15.180> our<00:06:15.360> total<00:06:15.660> budget<00:06:16.039> and<00:06:17.039> our<00:06:17.400> tuition with our total budget and our tuition with our total budget and our tuition costs<00:06:18.539> of<00:06:18.660> 513<00:06:20.160> 000<00:06:20.280> higher<00:06:20.820> than<00:06:21.120> our<00:06:21.600> tuition costs of 513 000 higher than our tuition costs of 513 000 higher than our tuition costs<00:06:22.500> were<00:06:22.740> budgeted costs were budgeted costs were budgeted um we<00:06:24.360> are<00:06:24.539> okay<00:06:24.780> still<00:06:25.199> right<00:06:25.440> now<00:06:25.620> because um we are okay still right now because um we are okay still right now because we<00:06:26.100> had<00:06:26.220> a<00:06:26.460> lot<00:06:26.639> of we had a lot of we had a lot of um<00:06:28.020> great<00:06:28.620> things<00:06:28.860> in<00:06:29.039> our<00:06:29.220> favor<00:06:29.340> at<00:06:29.639> the<00:06:29.759> end um great things in our favor at the end um great things in our favor at the end of<00:06:30.000> last<00:06:30.180> year<00:06:30.419> we<00:06:31.199> were<00:06:31.380> able<00:06:31.620> to<00:06:31.860> carry<00:06:32.220> over of last year we were able to carry over of last year we were able to carry over um<00:06:33.240> a<00:06:33.419> little<00:06:33.479> over<00:06:33.720> 800<00:06:34.500> 000<00:06:34.620> in<00:06:34.800> circuit um a little over 800 000 in circuit um a little over 800 000 in circuit breaker<00:06:35.520> which<00:06:35.699> is<00:06:35.819> a<00:06:35.940> revolving<00:06:36.360> fund breaker which is a revolving fund breaker which is a revolving fund ideally<00:06:37.680> really<00:06:38.160> makes<00:06:38.460> fiscal<00:06:38.880> good ideally really makes fiscal good ideally really makes fiscal good management<00:06:39.300> to<00:06:39.780> try<00:06:39.900> to<00:06:40.020> carry<00:06:40.319> over<00:06:40.440> about<00:06:40.740> a management to try to carry over about a management to try to carry over about a million<00:06:41.220> dollars<00:06:41.460> in<00:06:41.639> that<00:06:41.819> that<00:06:42.180> fund<00:06:42.600> every million dollars in that that fund every million dollars in that that fund every year<00:06:43.020> we<00:06:43.919> were<00:06:44.039> able<00:06:44.280> to<00:06:44.340> carry<00:06:44.639> over<00:06:44.819> eight year we were able to carry over eight year we were able to carry over eight hundred<00:06:45.300> thousand<00:06:45.720> which<00:06:45.900> we<00:06:46.080> can<00:06:46.199> use<00:06:46.319> if<00:06:46.560> we hundred thousand which we can use if we hundred thousand which we can use if we need<00:06:46.860> to need to need to um<00:06:48.060> we<00:06:48.240> are<00:06:48.419> also<00:06:48.720> able<00:06:48.960> to<00:06:49.139> prepay<00:06:49.560> tuitions um we are also able to prepay tuitions um we are also able to prepay tuitions in<00:06:50.220> the<00:06:50.340> amount<00:06:50.520> of<00:06:50.699> 250<00:06:51.600> 000<00:06:51.720> at<00:06:51.960> the<00:06:52.080> last in the amount of 250 000 at the last in the amount of 250 000 at the last minute<00:06:52.380> last<00:06:52.740> year<00:06:52.979> which<00:06:53.520> helped<00:06:53.880> us<00:06:54.000> this

6:54 minute last year which helped us this minute last year which helped us this year year year and<00:06:55.740> our<00:06:56.039> circuit<00:06:56.400> breaker<00:06:56.699> reimbursement and our circuit breaker reimbursement and our circuit breaker reimbursement for<00:06:57.360> the<00:06:57.479> current<00:06:57.660> year<00:06:57.900> is<00:06:58.080> 220<00:06:59.100> 000<00:06:59.220> higher for the current year is 220 000 higher for the current year is 220 000 higher than<00:06:59.819> we<00:07:00.000> had<00:07:00.180> budgeted than we had budgeted than we had budgeted so<00:07:01.919> that<00:07:02.100> is<00:07:02.220> an<00:07:02.400> additional<00:07:02.699> Revenue<00:07:03.060> source so that is an additional Revenue source so that is an additional Revenue source that<00:07:03.720> we<00:07:03.960> weren't<00:07:04.080> anticipating that we weren’t anticipating that we weren’t anticipating so<00:07:06.300> right<00:07:06.479> now<00:07:06.600> our<00:07:06.840> total<00:07:07.199> available<00:07:07.380> balance so right now our total available balance so right now our total available balance for<00:07:08.280> any<00:07:08.520> special<00:07:08.759> education<00:07:09.360> tuition<00:07:09.900> and for any special education tuition and for any special education tuition and transportation<00:07:11.220> costs<00:07:11.699> that<00:07:11.759> we<00:07:11.940> have<00:07:12.060> we transportation costs that we have we transportation costs that we have we have<00:07:12.479> an<00:07:12.660> available<00:07:12.840> balance<00:07:13.440> of<00:07:13.560> 478<00:07:14.819> 000. have an available balance of 478 000. have an available balance of 478 000. however<00:07:16.259> if<00:07:16.919> we<00:07:17.100> were<00:07:17.280> to<00:07:17.400> spend<00:07:17.699> that<00:07:17.819> 478<00:07:19.080> 000 however if we were to spend that 478 000 however if we were to spend that 478 000 that<00:07:19.680> means<00:07:19.919> we<00:07:20.220> will<00:07:20.400> not<00:07:20.580> have<00:07:20.940> any<00:07:21.300> circuit that means we will not have any circuit that means we will not have any circuit breaker<00:07:22.020> carry<00:07:22.380> over<00:07:22.500> going<00:07:22.800> into<00:07:23.039> next<00:07:23.460> year breaker carry over going into next year breaker carry over going into next year so<00:07:24.360> I<00:07:24.479> do<00:07:24.660> want<00:07:24.840> to<00:07:25.020> caution<00:07:25.319> that<00:07:25.560> because so I do want to caution that because so I do want to caution that because right<00:07:26.039> now<00:07:26.220> that's<00:07:26.460> kind<00:07:26.759> of<00:07:26.880> our<00:07:27.120> our<00:07:27.660> Saving right now that’s kind of our our Saving right now that’s kind of our our Saving Grace<00:07:28.259> so<00:07:29.220> if<00:07:29.460> we<00:07:29.639> are<00:07:29.819> to<00:07:30.060> fully<00:07:30.720> expend<00:07:31.139> this Grace so if we are to fully expend this Grace so if we are to fully expend this we<00:07:31.800> won't<00:07:32.099> have<00:07:32.880> um<00:07:32.880> that<00:07:33.120> cushion<00:07:33.419> that<00:07:33.599> we we won’t have um that cushion that we we won’t have um that cushion that we have<00:07:33.900> this<00:07:34.139> year um and really that’s that’s where we are um and really that’s that’s where we are for<00:07:38.340> this<00:07:38.400> year<00:07:38.759> those<00:07:39.120> are<00:07:39.300> the<00:07:39.360> areas<00:07:39.720> of

7:39 for this year those are the areas of for this year those are the areas of concern concern concern um<00:07:41.099> we'll<00:07:41.280> just<00:07:41.400> continue<00:07:41.580> watching<00:07:42.240> it um we’ll just continue watching it um we’ll just continue watching it closely<00:07:42.660> glad<00:07:43.199> we<00:07:43.380> had<00:07:43.620> these<00:07:44.220> additional closely glad we had these additional closely glad we had these additional funding<00:07:44.940> sources funding sources funding sources to<00:07:46.500> absorb<00:07:46.919> these<00:07:47.220> costs<00:07:48.060> um<00:07:48.120> but<00:07:48.360> it<00:07:48.479> doesn't to absorb these costs um but it doesn’t to absorb these costs um but it doesn’t seem<00:07:48.900> like<00:07:49.020> the<00:07:49.199> Mental<00:07:49.500> Health<00:07:49.560> crisis<00:07:50.039> is seem like the Mental Health crisis is seem like the Mental Health crisis is going<00:07:50.400> away<00:07:50.580> anytime<00:07:51.060> soon<00:07:51.360> so<00:07:51.900> certainly going away anytime soon so certainly going away anytime soon so certainly this<00:07:52.800> is<00:07:52.919> something<00:07:53.160> that<00:07:53.460> we<00:07:53.639> need<00:07:53.819> to<00:07:54.060> plan this is something that we need to plan this is something that we need to plan for<00:07:54.539> something<00:07:55.380> we<00:07:55.680> need<00:07:55.860> to<00:07:56.099> anticipate<00:07:56.699> and for something we need to anticipate and for something we need to anticipate and um there<00:07:58.620> are<00:07:58.740> a<00:07:58.919> couple<00:07:59.039> of<00:07:59.160> things<00:07:59.340> we're um there are a couple of things we’re um there are a couple of things we’re already<00:07:59.819> looking<00:08:00.060> at<00:08:00.240> for<00:08:00.539> the<00:08:00.720> FY<00:08:01.020> 24 already looking at for the FY 24 already looking at for the FY 24 questions questions questions we’re<00:08:02.639> hearing<00:08:03.060> that<00:08:03.240> some<00:08:03.419> tuitions<00:08:03.960> are we’re hearing that some tuitions are we’re hearing that some tuitions are going<00:08:04.259> to<00:08:04.440> be<00:08:05.280> um<00:08:05.360> significantly<00:08:06.360> increased going to be um significantly increased going to be um significantly increased where<00:08:07.979> they've<00:08:08.280> in<00:08:08.520> the<00:08:08.639> past<00:08:08.759> they've<00:08:09.060> been where they’ve in the past they’ve been where they’ve in the past they’ve been increased<00:08:09.599> two<00:08:09.780> to<00:08:09.960> three<00:08:10.080> percent<00:08:10.259> they're increased two to three percent they’re increased two to three percent they’re going<00:08:10.919> to<00:08:11.039> have<00:08:11.280> a<00:08:11.520> significant<00:08:11.880> increase<00:08:12.120> for going to have a significant increase for going to have a significant increase for the<00:08:12.660> FY<00:08:12.900> 24<00:08:13.199> budget the FY 24 budget the FY 24 budget so<00:08:15.780> just<00:08:16.139> to<00:08:16.259> kind<00:08:16.440> of<00:08:16.500> reiterate so just to kind of reiterate so just to kind of reiterate um what<00:08:18.539> you<00:08:18.660> just<00:08:18.780> went<00:08:19.020> through<00:08:19.199> so<00:08:19.500> there's um what you just went through so there’s um what you just went through so there’s no<00:08:19.979> surprises<00:08:20.520> as<00:08:21.120> we<00:08:21.300> approach<00:08:21.599> the<00:08:21.780> FY<00:08:22.080> 24 no surprises as we approach the FY 24 no surprises as we approach the FY 24 budget<00:08:22.979> planning<00:08:23.340> or<00:08:23.460> actually<00:08:23.580> we're<00:08:23.819> in<00:08:24.000> the budget planning or actually we’re in the budget planning or actually we’re in the middle<00:08:24.180> of<00:08:24.360> it<00:08:24.560> we<00:08:25.560> know<00:08:25.680> about

8:26 middle of it we know about middle of it we know about um roughly<00:08:27.000> a<00:08:27.300> million<00:08:27.840> additional<00:08:28.560> out<00:08:28.800> of um roughly a million additional out of um roughly a million additional out of District District District than<00:08:30.539> we<00:08:30.780> did<00:08:30.960> last<00:08:31.319> year than we did last year than we did last year um<00:08:32.520> and<00:08:32.700> we<00:08:32.880> don't<00:08:33.000> have<00:08:33.419> the<00:08:33.719> circuit<00:08:34.260> breaker um and we don’t have the circuit breaker um and we don’t have the circuit breaker to<00:08:34.680> carry<00:08:34.919> over<00:08:34.979> like<00:08:35.219> we<00:08:35.339> did<00:08:35.520> last<00:08:35.700> year<00:08:35.880> to to carry over like we did last year to to carry over like we did last year to balance<00:08:36.360> that<00:08:36.539> long<00:08:36.719> so<00:08:37.260> we'll<00:08:37.440> need<00:08:37.560> to balance that long so we’ll need to balance that long so we’ll need to include<00:08:38.159> that<00:08:38.399> in<00:08:38.700> our<00:08:38.820> upfront<00:08:39.240> funding include that in our upfront funding include that in our upfront funding which<00:08:39.959> is<00:08:40.140> what<00:08:40.680> is<00:08:41.279> fiscally<00:08:41.520> prudent<00:08:41.880> anyway which is what is fiscally prudent anyway which is what is fiscally prudent anyway um<00:08:43.380> we<00:08:43.560> have<00:08:43.740> an<00:08:43.860> additional<00:08:44.240> 212<00:08:45.240> for<00:08:45.839> the um we have an additional 212 for the um we have an additional 212 for the rate<00:08:46.380> increase rate increase rate increase for<00:08:48.720> electrical<00:08:49.260> loan<00:08:49.560> natural<00:08:50.220> gas<00:08:50.580> we<00:08:50.940> can for electrical loan natural gas we can for electrical loan natural gas we can assume<00:08:51.600> there's<00:08:52.080> going<00:08:52.320> to<00:08:52.440> be<00:08:52.560> an<00:08:52.680> increase assume there’s going to be an increase assume there’s going to be an increase however<00:08:53.220> we<00:08:53.399> don't<00:08:53.519> know<00:08:53.640> what<00:08:53.880> that<00:08:54.000> is<00:08:54.180> yet however we don’t know what that is yet however we don’t know what that is yet um um um and we know that there’s going to be as we know that there’s going to be as proposed<00:09:04.140> right<00:09:04.380> now<00:09:04.560> A<00:09:04.980> 14<00:09:05.220> versus<00:09:06.060> a<00:09:06.480> two<00:09:06.660> to proposed right now A 14 versus a two to proposed right now A 14 versus a two to three<00:09:07.019> percent<00:09:07.260> for<00:09:07.860> our<00:09:08.040> out<00:09:08.220> of<00:09:08.399> District three percent for our out of District three percent for our out of District placements<00:09:09.180> which<00:09:09.480> are<00:09:09.660> currently<00:09:10.080> in<00:09:10.260> the placements which are currently in the placements which are currently in the four<00:09:10.560> million<00:09:11.040> dollar<00:09:11.160> range<00:09:11.580> so<00:09:12.120> you

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11:07 had you had already shared some or Dr had you had already shared some or Dr Bucky<00:11:07.500> had<00:11:07.800> shared<00:11:08.100> right<00:11:08.279> when<00:11:08.459> you<00:11:08.579> got<00:11:08.820> it Bucky had shared right when you got it Bucky had shared right when you got it 10<00:11:09.420> to<00:11:09.600> 15<00:11:09.779> I<00:11:10.500> think<00:11:10.560> it<00:11:10.680> was<00:11:10.800> 14<00:11:10.980> was<00:11:11.399> the<00:11:11.579> exact 10 to 15 I think it was 14 was the exact 10 to 15 I think it was 14 was the exact number<00:11:12.120> that<00:11:12.899> was<00:11:13.079> a<00:11:13.140> month<00:11:13.260> or<00:11:13.380> two<00:11:13.500> ago<00:11:13.860> so number that was a month or two ago so number that was a month or two ago so um<00:11:14.880> that's<00:11:15.120> something<00:11:15.300> certainly<00:11:15.720> we're um that’s something certainly we’re um that’s something certainly we’re gonna<00:11:16.079> have<00:11:16.200> to<00:11:16.320> navigate<00:11:16.500> I<00:11:16.860> think<00:11:17.040> special gonna have to navigate I think special gonna have to navigate I think special education<00:11:17.940> has<00:11:18.360> been<00:11:18.600> a<00:11:19.500> main<00:11:19.920> piece<00:11:20.279> of<00:11:20.459> this education has been a main piece of this education has been a main piece of this budgets<00:11:21.180> challenge<00:11:21.480> since<00:11:22.260> I've<00:11:22.440> been budgets challenge since I’ve been budgets challenge since I’ve been looking<00:11:22.800> at<00:11:23.040> it<00:11:23.220> for<00:11:23.459> the<00:11:23.579> last<00:11:23.700> five<00:11:24.000> or<00:11:24.180> six looking at it for the last five or six looking at it for the last five or six years<00:11:24.600> and<00:11:25.079> probably<00:11:25.440> even<00:11:25.740> before<00:11:26.100> that<00:11:26.459> so years and probably even before that so years and probably even before that so as<00:11:27.600> we<00:11:27.720> said<00:11:27.959> last<00:11:28.260> year<00:11:28.440> I<00:11:28.680> think<00:11:28.860> the<00:11:29.700> more as we said last year I think the more as we said last year I think the more detail<00:11:30.360> we<00:11:30.600> can<00:11:30.779> get<00:11:31.019> on<00:11:31.440> the<00:11:32.100> history<00:11:32.339> of<00:11:32.820> that detail we can get on the history of that detail we can get on the history of that um<00:11:34.320> you<00:11:34.500> know<00:11:34.880> how<00:11:35.880> it's<00:11:36.060> been<00:11:36.240> going<00:11:36.420> up<00:11:36.660> year um you know how it’s been going up year um you know how it’s been going up year over<00:11:37.079> year<00:11:37.380> actuals<00:11:38.100> right<00:11:38.519> in<00:11:38.880> the<00:11:39.060> last<00:11:39.180> few over year actuals right in the last few over year actuals right in the last few years<00:11:39.660> also<00:11:40.620> what<00:11:40.860> we've<00:11:41.100> already<00:11:41.279> increased years also what we’ve already increased years also what we’ve already increased year<00:11:42.360> over<00:11:42.600> year year over year year over year um<00:11:44.040> like<00:11:44.640> last<00:11:44.880> year<00:11:45.060> I<00:11:45.240> think<00:11:45.360> we<00:11:45.540> we<00:11:45.779> added<00:11:46.200> an um like last year I think we we added an um like last year I think we we added an amount<00:11:46.920> that<00:11:47.160> we<00:11:47.279> were<00:11:47.459> determined<00:11:48.240> that<00:11:48.420> the amount that we were determined that the amount that we were determined that the town<00:11:48.720> could<00:11:48.959> support<00:11:49.200> that<00:11:49.980> didn't<00:11:50.100> go<00:11:50.399> into town could support that didn’t go into town could support that didn’t go into um the<00:11:51.839> additional<00:11:52.500> request<00:11:52.800> on<00:11:53.579> the<00:11:53.700> warrant

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13:28 a net number of in in uh you know in a net number of in in uh you know in tuitions<00:13:29.399> that<00:13:29.700> have<00:13:29.880> been<00:13:30.060> going<00:13:30.300> down<00:13:30.660> plus tuitions that have been going down plus tuitions that have been going down plus out<00:13:31.560> of<00:13:31.740> districts<00:13:32.220> going<00:13:32.459> up<00:13:32.700> right<00:13:33.000> because out of districts going up right because out of districts going up right because Marblehead<00:13:33.959> can<00:13:34.620> collect<00:13:34.980> revenues<00:13:35.519> from Marblehead can collect revenues from Marblehead can collect revenues from students<00:13:36.600> that<00:13:36.779> come<00:13:36.959> into<00:13:37.079> the<00:13:37.320> system<00:13:37.440> but students that come into the system but students that come into the system but my<00:13:37.980> understanding<00:13:38.220> is<00:13:38.459> that's<00:13:38.700> been<00:13:38.940> going my understanding is that’s been going my understanding is that’s been going down<00:13:39.420> over<00:13:39.779> the<00:13:39.959> years<00:13:40.079> so<00:13:40.500> so<00:13:40.980> that<00:13:41.639> is down over the years so so that is down over the years so so that is impacting<00:13:42.600> that<00:13:42.839> net<00:13:43.019> number<00:13:43.260> to<00:13:43.560> the<00:13:43.740> extent impacting that net number to the extent impacting that net number to the extent we<00:13:44.160> can<00:13:44.339> have<00:13:44.579> those<00:13:44.820> numbers<00:13:45.000> gross<00:13:45.480> of<00:13:45.660> one we can have those numbers gross of one we can have those numbers gross of one another<00:13:46.019> and<00:13:46.800> show<00:13:46.980> the<00:13:47.220> trend<00:13:47.519> of<00:13:47.760> money another and show the trend of money another and show the trend of money coming<00:13:48.540> in<00:13:48.839> going<00:13:49.079> down<00:13:49.320> and<00:13:49.560> money<00:13:49.740> going<00:13:50.160> up coming in going down and money going up coming in going down and money going up um<00:13:51.180> and<00:13:51.360> just<00:13:51.540> you<00:13:51.839> know<00:13:52.019> the<00:13:52.500> data<00:13:52.800> on<00:13:52.980> the um and just you know the data on the um and just you know the data on the history<00:13:53.399> the<00:13:53.880> funding<00:13:54.300> and<00:13:54.899> then<00:13:55.019> you<00:13:55.500> know history the funding and then you know history the funding and then you know where<00:13:55.860> where<00:13:56.040> the<00:13:56.279> requests<00:13:56.639> will<00:13:56.760> be<00:13:56.940> in<00:13:57.060> the where where the requests will be in the where where the requests will be in the future<00:13:57.360> and<00:13:58.139> then<00:13:58.260> to<00:13:58.560> me<00:13:58.680> I<00:13:58.920> think<00:13:58.980> we<00:13:59.160> brought future and then to me I think we brought future and then to me I think we brought it<00:13:59.519> up<00:13:59.639> last<00:13:59.820> year<00:14:00.060> I'm<00:14:00.300> still<00:14:00.720> interested<00:14:01.200> in it up last year I’m still interested in it up last year I’m still interested in exploring<00:14:02.339> how<00:14:03.300> we<00:14:03.540> can<00:14:03.860> better<00:14:04.860> manage<00:14:05.700> or exploring how we can better manage or exploring how we can better manage or utilize<00:14:06.480> the<00:14:07.139> Reserve<00:14:07.920> accounts<00:14:08.339> that's<00:14:08.639> been utilize the Reserve accounts that’s been utilize the Reserve accounts that’s been created<00:14:09.839> for<00:14:10.079> this<00:14:10.200> because<00:14:10.380> I<00:14:10.620> think created for this because I think created for this because I think it’s<00:14:11.940> been<00:14:12.120> funded<00:14:12.480> it<00:14:12.779> maybe<00:14:12.899> hasn't<00:14:13.320> been it’s been funded it maybe hasn’t been it’s been funded it maybe hasn’t been drawn<00:14:13.920> from<00:14:14.160> because<00:14:14.579> it's<00:14:15.000> you<00:14:15.300> know<00:14:15.420> outside

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16:58 I I just have a comment so I’d rather I I just have a comment so I’d rather not<00:16:59.220> mute<00:16:59.579> just<00:16:59.880> yet not mute just yet not mute just yet um um um okay<00:17:02.519> and<00:17:02.880> I'm<00:17:03.060> assuming<00:17:03.360> you<00:17:03.480> can<00:17:03.660> hear<00:17:03.839> me okay and I’m assuming you can hear me okay and I’m assuming you can hear me okay okay okay it’s<00:17:05.699> kind<00:17:06.000> of<00:17:06.120> following<00:17:06.480> on<00:17:06.660> the<00:17:06.839> management it’s kind of following on the management it’s kind of following on the management discretion<00:17:08.040> if<00:17:08.699> I<00:17:08.819> meant<00:17:09.059> from<00:17:09.540> camp<00:17:09.839> and<00:17:10.559> and discretion if I meant from camp and and discretion if I meant from camp and and that<00:17:11.339> is<00:17:11.459> I<00:17:11.939> think<00:17:12.059> one<00:17:12.959> of<00:17:13.079> the<00:17:13.199> things<00:17:13.380> that that is I think one of the things that that is I think one of the things that might<00:17:13.919> be<00:17:14.100> useful<00:17:14.459> and<00:17:15.000> we<00:17:15.839> for<00:17:16.799> for<00:17:17.040> the might be useful and we for for the might be useful and we for for the school<00:17:17.640> committee<00:17:18.120> and<00:17:18.299> the<00:17:18.480> school school committee and the school school committee and the school department department department to<00:17:21.480> um<00:17:21.480> to<00:17:21.900> investigate<00:17:22.439> and<00:17:22.860> then<00:17:22.980> report<00:17:23.339> to to um to investigate and then report to to um to investigate and then report to us<00:17:23.880> we<00:17:24.120> don't<00:17:24.299> you<00:17:24.720> know<00:17:24.780> we're<00:17:24.900> just<00:17:25.079> looking us we don’t you know we’re just looking us we don’t you know we’re just looking for<00:17:25.559> the<00:17:25.799> in<00:17:26.280> a<00:17:26.400> lot<00:17:26.520> of<00:17:26.640> cases<00:17:26.880> we're<00:17:27.179> just for the in a lot of cases we’re just for the in a lot of cases we’re just looking<00:17:27.540> for<00:17:27.780> the<00:17:27.959> end<00:17:28.079> result<00:17:28.340> but<00:17:29.340> that looking for the end result but that looking for the end result but that would<00:17:29.940> be<00:17:30.179> to<00:17:31.020> look<00:17:31.740> at<00:17:32.100> the would be to look at the would be to look at the types<00:17:33.960> of types of types of um<00:17:35.400> special<00:17:35.640> education<00:17:36.240> services<00:17:36.720> that<00:17:37.700> we um special education services that we um special education services that we are<00:17:39.480> providing<00:17:40.020> or<00:17:40.380> and<00:17:40.860> are<00:17:41.100> and<00:17:41.460> need<00:17:41.760> to are providing or and are and need to are providing or and are and need to provide<00:17:42.299> and<00:17:42.900> see provide and see

17:43 provide and see if<00:17:44.220> there's<00:17:44.940> a<00:17:45.419> cost<00:17:45.660> benefit<00:17:46.020> trade-off<00:17:46.919> to if there’s a cost benefit trade-off to if there’s a cost benefit trade-off to trying<00:17:48.240> to trying to trying to um um um keep<00:17:51.720> the<00:17:52.020> placements<00:17:52.500> inside<00:17:52.880> our<00:17:53.880> our keep the placements inside our our keep the placements inside our our district<00:17:54.539> by district by district by hiring hiring hiring um um um staff<00:17:59.460> that<00:18:00.059> can<00:18:00.600> address<00:18:00.780> that<00:18:01.260> I<00:18:01.679> think<00:18:01.860> that staff that can address that I think that staff that can address that I think that to<00:18:02.880> you<00:18:03.120> know<00:18:03.179> that<00:18:03.419> that's<00:18:03.660> a<00:18:03.900> trade-off<00:18:04.260> that to you know that that’s a trade-off that to you know that that’s a trade-off that I<00:18:04.740> think<00:18:04.799> is<00:18:05.100> a<00:18:05.340> really<00:18:05.820> important<00:18:06.299> to I think is a really important to I think is a really important to um<00:18:07.980> to<00:18:08.640> provide<00:18:08.940> because um to provide because um to provide because um we<00:18:10.620> need<00:18:10.799> to<00:18:11.039> I<00:18:11.400> one<00:18:12.059> of<00:18:12.120> the<00:18:12.240> things<00:18:12.360> I um we need to I one of the things I um we need to I one of the things I think<00:18:12.840> that<00:18:13.320> we<00:18:13.860> collectively<00:18:14.640> are<00:18:15.360> looking think that we collectively are looking think that we collectively are looking at<00:18:15.840> in<00:18:16.140> the<00:18:16.320> finance<00:18:16.620> committee<00:18:17.100> is<00:18:17.340> trying<00:18:17.700> to at in the finance committee is trying to at in the finance committee is trying to do<00:18:18.480> a<00:18:18.720> forward-looking do a forward-looking do a forward-looking um um um multi-year<00:18:22.559> look<00:18:23.120> at<00:18:24.120> what<00:18:24.539> potential multi-year look at what potential multi-year look at what potential expenditures<00:18:25.620> are<00:18:25.860> going<00:18:26.039> to<00:18:26.220> be<00:18:26.400> if<00:18:27.240> in<00:18:27.419> fact expenditures are going to be if in fact expenditures are going to be if in fact we<00:18:27.960> need<00:18:28.140> to<00:18:28.320> do<00:18:28.620> a<00:18:29.039> general<00:18:29.660> override<00:18:30.919> we

18:31 we need to do a general override we we need to do a general override we would<00:18:32.160> we<00:18:32.640> seriously<00:18:33.620> want<00:18:34.620> to<00:18:34.799> have<00:18:35.100> it<00:18:35.640> be would we seriously want to have it be would we seriously want to have it be sufficient<00:18:36.660> to<00:18:37.080> support<00:18:37.520> the<00:18:38.520> services<00:18:38.760> that sufficient to support the services that sufficient to support the services that the<00:18:39.720> town<00:18:39.900> needs<00:18:40.440> more<00:18:41.280> than<00:18:41.460> just<00:18:41.760> next<00:18:42.059> year the town needs more than just next year the town needs more than just next year we<00:18:42.600> don't<00:18:42.720> want<00:18:42.900> to<00:18:43.020> be<00:18:43.140> doing<00:18:43.380> this<00:18:43.620> every we don’t want to be doing this every we don’t want to be doing this every year<00:18:44.100> I<00:18:44.280> don't<00:18:44.460> think<00:18:44.640> the<00:18:44.940> school<00:18:45.720> department year I don’t think the school department year I don’t think the school department does<00:18:46.320> either<00:18:46.620> so does either so does either so um<00:18:48.240> that's<00:18:48.660> that's<00:18:49.140> I<00:18:49.799> think<00:18:50.039> that<00:18:50.340> could<00:18:50.460> be<00:18:50.640> a um that’s that’s I think that could be a um that’s that’s I think that could be a critical

18:57 um piece of a an equation to try to um piece of a an equation to try to determine determine determine um<00:18:59.400> and<00:19:00.240> and<00:19:00.360> to<00:19:00.960> mitigate<00:19:01.380> some<00:19:01.740> potential um and and to mitigate some potential um and and to mitigate some potential longer<00:19:03.419> term<00:19:03.600> costs<00:19:04.380> to<00:19:05.160> to<00:19:05.400> the<00:19:05.700> district longer term costs to to the district longer term costs to to the district um<00:19:07.260> and<00:19:07.980> and<00:19:08.220> why<00:19:08.820> did<00:19:09.000> you<00:19:09.120> pick<00:19:09.299> a<00:19:09.539> four-year um and and why did you pick a four-year um and and why did you pick a four-year um<00:19:10.919> four<00:19:11.580> years<00:19:11.880> uh<00:19:12.539> Sarah<00:19:12.720> looked<00:19:13.500> back um four years uh Sarah looked back um four years uh Sarah looked back because<00:19:13.679> I<00:19:13.860> think<00:19:13.980> three<00:19:14.220> years<00:19:14.400> is<00:19:14.700> a<00:19:14.880> pretty because I think three years is a pretty because I think three years is a pretty good<00:19:15.240> standard<00:19:15.660> for<00:19:15.960> looking<00:19:16.320> at<00:19:16.620> fiscal good standard for looking at fiscal good standard for looking at fiscal Trends<00:19:17.580> but<00:19:17.760> because<00:19:18.000> three<00:19:18.299> years<00:19:18.480> landed<00:19:18.960> us Trends but because three years landed us Trends but because three years landed us right<00:19:19.320> in<00:19:19.559> in<00:19:19.919> the<00:19:20.100> middle<00:19:20.160> of<00:19:20.340> it<00:19:20.760> yeah<00:19:21.179> I right in in the middle of it yeah I right in in the middle of it yeah I wanted<00:19:21.600> to<00:19:21.780> go<00:19:21.960> back<00:19:22.140> an<00:19:22.380> additional<00:19:22.799> year<00:19:23.100> to wanted to go back an additional year to wanted to go back an additional year to see<00:19:23.760> if<00:19:24.179> that's<00:19:24.720> a<00:19:24.900> big<00:19:25.020> outlier<00:19:25.559> then<00:19:25.919> I<00:19:26.100> would see if that’s a big outlier then I would see if that’s a big outlier then I would go<00:19:26.460> deeper<00:19:26.940> but<00:19:27.419> okay go deeper but okay go deeper but okay um<00:19:28.919> considering<00:19:29.700> how um considering how um considering how tough<00:19:31.919> it<00:19:32.220> is<00:19:32.400> in<00:19:32.700> our<00:19:32.880> systems<00:19:33.299> to<00:19:33.539> get<00:19:33.660> any tough it is in our systems to get any tough it is in our systems to get any data<00:19:34.320> reports<00:19:34.740> I<00:19:35.340> would<00:19:35.520> be<00:19:35.640> hesitant<00:19:36.120> to data reports I would be hesitant to data reports I would be hesitant to start<00:19:36.600> asking<00:19:37.020> us<00:19:37.200> to<00:19:37.320> go<00:19:37.440> back<00:19:37.620> any<00:19:37.860> further start asking us to go back any further start asking us to go back any further because<00:19:38.520> it's<00:19:39.059> it's<00:19:39.660> incredibly<00:19:40.380> laborious because it’s it’s incredibly laborious because it’s it’s incredibly laborious um<00:19:41.820> we<00:19:42.000> don't<00:19:42.120> we<00:19:42.419> don't<00:19:42.539> have<00:19:42.660> an<00:19:42.840> easy

19:43 um we don’t we don’t have an easy um we don’t we don’t have an easy um<00:19:43.679> way<00:19:43.980> to<00:19:44.280> give<00:19:44.520> those<00:19:44.760> reports<00:19:45.240> but<00:19:45.600> if<00:19:45.780> that um way to give those reports but if that um way to give those reports but if that one<00:19:46.140> is<00:19:46.320> a<00:19:46.500> big<00:19:46.740> outlier<00:19:47.160> then<00:19:47.460> I<00:19:47.580> think<00:19:47.700> we one is a big outlier then I think we one is a big outlier then I think we would<00:19:48.000> need<00:19:48.179> to<00:19:48.360> look<00:19:48.539> deeper would need to look deeper would need to look deeper um<00:19:49.799> and<00:19:49.980> actually<00:19:50.160> Pat<00:19:50.460> I<00:19:50.940> have<00:19:51.179> asked<00:19:51.419> a um and actually Pat I have asked a um and actually Pat I have asked a couple<00:19:51.720> times<00:19:51.840> this<00:19:52.020> year<00:19:52.140> and<00:19:52.260> I<00:19:52.380> know<00:19:52.500> Dr couple times this year and I know Dr couple times this year and I know Dr Bucky<00:19:53.039> is<00:19:53.340> is<00:19:53.520> working<00:19:53.880> with<00:19:54.299> our<00:19:55.140> um<00:19:55.200> special Bucky is is working with our um special Bucky is is working with our um special education<00:19:56.220> director<00:19:56.760> to<00:19:56.940> get<00:19:57.059> us<00:19:57.240> these education director to get us these education director to get us these reports<00:19:57.900> so<00:19:58.380> we<00:19:58.620> can<00:19:58.799> kind<00:19:59.100> of<00:19:59.220> look<00:19:59.340> at<00:19:59.520> those reports so we can kind of look at those reports so we can kind of look at those Trends<00:20:00.179> because<00:20:00.360> it's<00:20:00.539> to<00:20:00.780> me<00:20:00.900> it's<00:20:01.020> all<00:20:01.140> about Trends because it’s to me it’s all about Trends because it’s to me it’s all about data<00:20:01.679> and<00:20:01.740> Trends<00:20:02.160> we<00:20:02.580> can<00:20:02.700> look<00:20:02.820> at<00:20:03.000> the data and Trends we can look at the data and Trends we can look at the trends<00:20:03.480> to<00:20:03.720> see<00:20:03.900> is<00:20:04.320> our<00:20:04.980> outplacements trends to see is our outplacements trends to see is our outplacements always<00:20:05.820> in<00:20:06.000> one<00:20:06.240> area<00:20:06.419> are<00:20:06.840> we<00:20:06.960> losing<00:20:07.260> a<00:20:07.440> lot always in one area are we losing a lot always in one area are we losing a lot at<00:20:08.039> a<00:20:08.280> grade<00:20:08.460> point<00:20:08.760> is<00:20:09.240> it<00:20:09.419> in<00:20:09.660> a<00:20:09.840> program at a grade point is it in a program at a grade point is it in a program Point<00:20:10.500> can<00:20:11.280> we<00:20:11.520> bolster<00:20:12.059> or<00:20:12.600> or<00:20:12.780> scaffold<00:20:13.320> what Point can we bolster or or scaffold what Point can we bolster or or scaffold what we’re<00:20:13.919> doing<00:20:14.220> in-house<00:20:15.000> to<00:20:15.299> keep<00:20:15.539> some<00:20:15.840> of we’re doing in-house to keep some of we’re doing in-house to keep some of those<00:20:16.080> things<00:20:16.320> in-house<00:20:16.740> can<00:20:17.039> we<00:20:17.220> design<00:20:17.400> a those things in-house can we design a those things in-house can we design a program<00:20:17.940> in-house<00:20:18.419> bring<00:20:18.660> in<00:20:18.840> a<00:20:19.020> consultant program in-house bring in a consultant program in-house bring in a consultant to<00:20:19.559> help<00:20:19.740> us<00:20:19.919> design<00:20:20.280> a<00:20:20.640> program<00:20:20.760> in-house to help us design a program in-house to help us design a program in-house which<00:20:21.780> again<00:20:21.960> is<00:20:22.320> an<00:20:22.980> initial<00:20:23.280> cost<00:20:23.520> but<00:20:23.940> the which again is an initial cost but the which again is an initial cost but the the<00:20:24.299> return<00:20:24.660> the<00:20:24.960> ROI<00:20:25.440> on<00:20:25.620> that<00:20:25.799> is<00:20:25.919> much the return the ROI on that is much the return the ROI on that is much better<00:20:26.419> so<00:20:27.419> we're<00:20:27.600> we're<00:20:27.900> having<00:20:28.200> these better so we’re we’re having these

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21:15 bottom line but we we are here for the bottom line but we we are here for the the<00:21:15.720> fiscal<00:21:16.260> attribute<00:21:17.160> of<00:21:17.280> our<00:21:17.820> area<00:21:18.299> of the fiscal attribute of our area of the fiscal attribute of our area of things<00:21:19.200> no<00:21:19.679> but<00:21:19.980> that<00:21:20.580> that's<00:21:20.880> great<00:21:21.240> and<00:21:21.720> I<00:21:21.960> is things no but that that’s great and I is things no but that that’s great and I is keep<00:21:22.860> keep<00:21:23.100> looking<00:21:23.340> at<00:21:23.640> it<00:21:23.820> I<00:21:24.059> think<00:21:24.179> it's<00:21:24.419> I<00:21:25.020> I keep keep looking at it I think it’s I I keep keep looking at it I think it’s I I also<00:21:25.740> think<00:21:25.860> it's<00:21:26.100> a<00:21:26.220> very<00:21:26.340> valuable also think it’s a very valuable also think it’s a very valuable perspective<00:21:27.500> and<00:21:28.500> and<00:21:28.919> I<00:21:29.520> did<00:21:29.700> listen<00:21:29.940> in<00:21:30.240> on perspective and and I did listen in on perspective and and I did listen in on your<00:21:30.720> previous<00:21:31.020> budget<00:21:31.620> subcommittee your previous budget subcommittee your previous budget subcommittee meeting<00:21:32.580> and<00:21:32.880> one<00:21:33.059> of<00:21:33.179> the<00:21:33.240> things<00:21:33.419> I<00:21:33.659> never meeting and one of the things I never meeting and one of the things I never got<00:21:34.320> a<00:21:34.440> chance<00:21:34.559> to<00:21:34.740> get<00:21:34.919> back<00:21:35.100> to<00:21:35.220> you<00:21:35.340> thanks got a chance to get back to you thanks got a chance to get back to you thanks for<00:21:36.000> returning<00:21:36.780> my<00:21:36.960> call<00:21:37.140> but for returning my call but for returning my call but um<00:21:38.400> was<00:21:39.179> I<00:21:39.659> I<00:21:39.840> I<00:21:39.960> was<00:21:40.679> just<00:21:41.280> going<00:21:41.520> to<00:21:41.700> mention um was I I I was just going to mention um was I I I was just going to mention that<00:21:42.299> I<00:21:42.539> was<00:21:42.720> encouraged<00:21:43.440> by<00:21:43.940> your<00:21:44.940> comment that I was encouraged by your comment that I was encouraged by your comment that that that um um um you’d<00:21:48.840> like<00:21:49.080> to you’d like to you’d like to um have<00:21:51.360> a<00:21:52.080> forward-looking um have a forward-looking um have a forward-looking um um um perspective perspective perspective on<00:21:57.000> the<00:21:57.559> potential<00:21:58.760> expenditures<00:21:59.760> two<00:22:00.240> three

22:00 on the potential expenditures two three on the potential expenditures two three five<00:22:00.780> years<00:22:01.020> down<00:22:01.440> the<00:22:01.679> road<00:22:02.120> and<00:22:03.120> that's five years down the road and that’s five years down the road and that’s exactly<00:22:04.200> the<00:22:04.860> kind<00:22:05.100> of<00:22:05.280> thought<00:22:05.760> process<00:22:06.240> that exactly the kind of thought process that exactly the kind of thought process that I<00:22:07.320> think<00:22:07.440> we<00:22:07.679> as<00:22:07.919> the<00:22:08.159> finance<00:22:08.400> committee<00:22:08.820> are I think we as the finance committee are I think we as the finance committee are are<00:22:09.240> looking<00:22:09.480> to<00:22:09.780> try<00:22:09.960> to<00:22:10.140> develop<00:22:10.380> across<00:22:11.039> all are looking to try to develop across all are looking to try to develop across all departments<00:22:11.880> throughout<00:22:12.299> the<00:22:12.480> town<00:22:12.659> not<00:22:13.380> just departments throughout the town not just departments throughout the town not just not<00:22:14.220> just<00:22:14.400> the<00:22:14.640> school<00:22:14.820> committee<00:22:15.299> so<00:22:15.480> yeah not just the school committee so yeah not just the school committee so yeah this<00:22:16.500> is<00:22:16.620> great<00:22:16.860> and<00:22:17.220> and<00:22:17.340> the<00:22:17.640> only<00:22:17.760> reason<00:22:18.000> I this is great and and the only reason I this is great and and the only reason I was<00:22:18.900> thinking<00:22:19.320> kind<00:22:19.919> of<00:22:20.039> a<00:22:20.220> five-year<00:22:20.640> look was thinking kind of a five-year look was thinking kind of a five-year look forward<00:22:21.480> which<00:22:22.440> is<00:22:22.559> why<00:22:22.860> I<00:22:23.159> thought<00:22:23.520> maybe<00:22:23.820> a forward which is why I thought maybe a forward which is why I thought maybe a five-year<00:22:24.480> look<00:22:24.659> back<00:22:24.960> might<00:22:25.380> be<00:22:25.940> something five-year look back might be something five-year look back might be something to<00:22:27.240> consider<00:22:27.539> but<00:22:27.780> just<00:22:28.380> see<00:22:28.740> what<00:22:28.919> see<00:22:29.220> how<00:22:29.340> it to consider but just see what see how it to consider but just see what see how it see<00:22:29.880> how<00:22:30.000> it<00:22:30.120> shakes<00:22:30.360> out<00:22:31.020> thanks<00:22:31.679> will<00:22:32.460> do see how it shakes out thanks will do see how it shakes out thanks will do definitely definitely definitely um<00:22:34.020> if<00:22:34.200> there's<00:22:34.380> no<00:22:34.559> other<00:22:34.740> questions<00:22:34.980> about um if there’s no other questions about um if there’s no other questions about the<00:22:35.940> FY<00:22:36.299> 23<00:22:36.720> budget<00:22:37.080> update<00:22:37.380> although<00:22:37.620> it the FY 23 budget update although it the FY 23 budget update although it Bridges<00:22:38.100> quite<00:22:38.280> a<00:22:38.400> bit<00:22:38.460> with<00:22:38.580> our<00:22:38.760> next<00:22:38.880> agenda Bridges quite a bit with our next agenda Bridges quite a bit with our next agenda item<00:22:39.720> I<00:22:39.900> will<00:22:40.020> move<00:22:40.140> us<00:22:40.320> into<00:22:40.559> the<00:22:40.740> FY<00:22:40.980> budget item I will move us into the FY budget item I will move us into the FY budget planning<00:22:41.820> and<00:22:42.120> discussion planning and discussion planning and discussion um we<00:22:43.860> had<00:22:43.980> developed<00:22:44.400> it<00:22:44.580> was<00:22:45.179> the<00:22:45.299> first um we had developed it was the first um we had developed it was the first time<00:22:45.600> we<00:22:45.780> kind<00:22:45.960> of<00:22:46.080> did<00:22:46.260> this<00:22:46.500> at<00:22:46.980> the

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23:46 directors they’re addressing our directors they’re addressing our concerns concerns concerns um<00:23:47.760> I<00:23:47.940> don't<00:23:48.120> know<00:23:48.240> Dr<00:23:48.659> Bucky<00:23:49.020> did<00:23:49.320> we<00:23:49.440> get<00:23:49.559> a um I don’t know Dr Bucky did we get a um I don’t know Dr Bucky did we get a chance<00:23:49.860> to<00:23:50.100> share<00:23:50.580> that<00:23:50.940> those<00:23:51.600> priorities chance to share that those priorities chance to share that those priorities out<00:23:52.380> with<00:23:52.559> the<00:23:52.740> group out with the group out with the group uh<00:23:54.059> no<00:23:54.240> but<00:23:54.600> I<00:23:54.780> can<00:23:54.900> send<00:23:55.020> the<00:23:55.200> map<00:23:55.320> for<00:23:55.500> this uh no but I can send the map for this uh no but I can send the map for this meeting<00:23:55.799> okay meeting okay meeting okay um<00:23:57.659> essentially<00:23:58.020> we<00:23:58.320> we<00:23:58.559> want<00:23:58.740> to<00:23:58.919> make<00:23:59.039> sure um essentially we we want to make sure um essentially we we want to make sure that<00:23:59.580> we're<00:23:59.940> taking<00:24:00.240> care<00:24:00.539> of<00:24:00.659> everything that we’re taking care of everything that we’re taking care of everything from<00:24:01.260> our<00:24:01.440> planning<00:24:01.980> for<00:24:02.100> Success<00:24:02.520> documents from our planning for Success documents from our planning for Success documents we<00:24:03.539> want<00:24:03.659> to<00:24:03.780> address<00:24:03.900> the<00:24:04.260> special<00:24:04.380> education we want to address the special education we want to address the special education concerns concerns concerns um<00:24:07.140> while<00:24:07.380> providing<00:24:07.860> inclusion<00:24:08.340> for<00:24:08.700> our um while providing inclusion for our um while providing inclusion for our students students students um there’s<00:24:10.620> several<00:24:10.980> items<00:24:11.340> on<00:24:11.460> there<00:24:11.640> none um there’s several items on there none um there’s several items on there none of<00:24:12.120> them<00:24:12.299> would<00:24:12.539> be<00:24:12.720> surprises<00:24:13.440> or<00:24:13.679> all<00:24:13.919> things of them would be surprises or all things of them would be surprises or all things we’ve<00:24:14.460> talked<00:24:14.700> about we’ve talked about we’ve talked about um we<00:24:16.080> want<00:24:16.200> to<00:24:16.380> explore<00:24:17.039> new<00:24:17.520> revenue um we want to explore new revenue um we want to explore new revenue streams<00:24:18.299> whether<00:24:18.720> those<00:24:19.020> are<00:24:19.380> grants<00:24:19.740> through streams whether those are grants through streams whether those are grants through a<00:24:20.159> grant<00:24:20.340> writer<00:24:20.640> or<00:24:20.820> what<00:24:21.000> they<00:24:21.240> are a grant writer or what they are a grant writer or what they are um<00:24:22.559> I<00:24:22.860> think<00:24:22.980> where<00:24:23.520> are um I think where are um I think where are inflation<00:24:25.799> and<00:24:26.100> our<00:24:26.340> costs<00:24:26.760> are<00:24:26.880> growing<00:24:27.299> as<00:24:27.659> I inflation and our costs are growing as I inflation and our costs are growing as I think<00:24:28.020> every<00:24:28.559> school<00:24:29.100> district<00:24:29.280> in<00:24:29.700> every think every school district in every think every school district in every town<00:24:30.179> is town is town is um<00:24:31.260> quicker<00:24:31.679> than<00:24:31.799> our<00:24:32.100> revenue<00:24:32.400> streams<00:24:32.820> are

24:32 um quicker than our revenue streams are um quicker than our revenue streams are I<00:24:33.120> think<00:24:33.240> it<00:24:33.419> would<00:24:33.659> be<00:24:33.780> really<00:24:33.960> prudent<00:24:34.440> for I think it would be really prudent for I think it would be really prudent for us<00:24:34.740> to<00:24:34.919> start<00:24:35.039> looking<00:24:35.340> at<00:24:35.580> being<00:24:35.820> more us to start looking at being more us to start looking at being more creative<00:24:36.419> with<00:24:36.659> some<00:24:36.840> of<00:24:36.960> those<00:24:37.020> revenue creative with some of those revenue creative with some of those revenue streams<00:24:37.860> which<00:24:38.159> our<00:24:38.400> only<00:24:38.580> other<00:24:38.820> option<00:24:39.120> is streams which our only other option is streams which our only other option is some<00:24:39.419> grants<00:24:39.780> so<00:24:40.440> we<00:24:40.679> we<00:24:40.860> wanted<00:24:41.100> to<00:24:41.400> explore some grants so we we wanted to explore some grants so we we wanted to explore that that that um<00:24:43.500> and<00:24:44.039> then<00:24:44.159> we<00:24:44.460> want<00:24:44.640> a<00:24:45.360> we<00:24:45.960> want<00:24:46.260> to<00:24:46.500> not um and then we want a we want to not um and then we want a we want to not just<00:24:47.039> know<00:24:47.220> what<00:24:47.520> the<00:24:47.700> three<00:24:47.820> the<00:24:48.360> four-year just know what the three the four-year just know what the three the four-year look<00:24:49.140> back<00:24:49.320> is<00:24:49.620> the<00:24:49.919> look<00:24:50.100> ahead<00:24:50.460> but<00:24:51.059> we<00:24:51.240> also look back is the look ahead but we also look back is the look ahead but we also want<00:24:51.720> to<00:24:51.900> present<00:24:52.380> to<00:24:52.860> you<00:24:53.220> and<00:24:53.520> the<00:24:53.760> town<00:24:54.000> what want to present to you and the town what want to present to you and the town what an<00:24:54.780> education<00:24:55.020> in<00:24:55.200> Marblehead<00:24:55.559> really<00:24:55.860> cost an education in Marblehead really cost an education in Marblehead really cost right<00:24:56.760> now<00:24:56.880> we<00:24:57.659> um<00:24:57.720> present right now we um present right now we um present what<00:25:00.179> it<00:25:00.539> costs<00:25:00.960> Marblehead<00:25:01.620> taxpayers<00:25:02.340> but what it costs Marblehead taxpayers but what it costs Marblehead taxpayers but it<00:25:02.760> really<00:25:02.880> costs<00:25:03.240> more<00:25:03.360> than<00:25:03.539> that<00:25:03.659> we<00:25:03.960> have it really costs more than that we have it really costs more than that we have quite<00:25:04.380> a<00:25:04.620> substantial<00:25:05.039> portion<00:25:05.460> of<00:25:05.700> our quite a substantial portion of our quite a substantial portion of our budget<00:25:06.299> that<00:25:06.960> is<00:25:07.200> also<00:25:07.679> Grant<00:25:08.220> based<00:25:08.640> a<00:25:08.820> lot<00:25:08.940> of budget that is also Grant based a lot of budget that is also Grant based a lot of those<00:25:09.299> are<00:25:10.280> entitlement<00:25:11.280> grants those are entitlement grants those are entitlement grants that<00:25:13.320> if<00:25:13.559> anybody<00:25:13.799> has<00:25:13.980> questions<00:25:14.220> Michelle that if anybody has questions Michelle that if anybody has questions Michelle can<00:25:14.940> always<00:25:15.120> answer<00:25:15.360> that<00:25:15.600> we<00:25:15.960> have<00:25:16.080> a<00:25:16.200> lot<00:25:16.320> of can always answer that we have a lot of can always answer that we have a lot of private<00:25:16.740> money<00:25:16.860> that<00:25:17.159> comes<00:25:17.400> in<00:25:17.520> too

25:18 private money that comes in too private money that comes in too um<00:25:18.419> excess<00:25:18.780> of<00:25:18.900> a<00:25:19.080> million<00:25:19.320> dollars<00:25:19.559> for<00:25:19.799> our um excess of a million dollars for our um excess of a million dollars for our ptos<00:25:20.580> and<00:25:21.120> friends<00:25:21.480> in<00:25:21.659> the<00:25:21.780> Marblehead ptos and friends in the Marblehead ptos and friends in the Marblehead public<00:25:22.440> schools<00:25:22.860> that<00:25:23.100> are<00:25:23.220> that<00:25:23.520> these public schools that are that these public schools that are that these programs<00:25:24.620> well<00:25:25.760> in<00:25:26.760> other<00:25:27.179> districts<00:25:27.600> might programs well in other districts might programs well in other districts might be<00:25:28.080> full be full be full uh<00:25:29.760> funding<00:25:30.179> things<00:25:30.299> like<00:25:30.480> field<00:25:30.659> day<00:25:30.960> here uh funding things like field day here uh funding things like field day here they’re<00:25:31.500> really<00:25:31.679> fun<00:25:31.860> and<00:25:32.039> curriculum<00:25:32.460> for<00:25:32.700> us they’re really fun and curriculum for us they’re really fun and curriculum for us and<00:25:33.240> our<00:25:33.419> concern<00:25:33.720> is<00:25:34.020> if<00:25:34.679> that<00:25:34.860> private<00:25:35.220> money and our concern is if that private money and our concern is if that private money dried<00:25:36.419> up<00:25:36.600> we<00:25:37.140> would<00:25:37.380> not<00:25:37.679> we<00:25:38.580> would<00:25:38.760> still dried up we would not we would still dried up we would not we would still have<00:25:39.120> the<00:25:39.299> need<00:25:39.419> for<00:25:39.600> that<00:25:39.720> curriculum<00:25:40.140> you have the need for that curriculum you have the need for that curriculum you know<00:25:40.500> at<00:25:40.620> the<00:25:40.740> brown<00:25:40.919> school<00:25:41.220> they're<00:25:41.700> paying know at the brown school they’re paying know at the brown school they’re paying to<00:25:42.240> meet<00:25:42.360> our<00:25:42.600> science<00:25:42.840> curriculum<00:25:43.380> through to meet our science curriculum through to meet our science curriculum through the<00:25:43.799> garden<00:25:43.980> program<00:25:44.340> and<00:25:44.700> things<00:25:44.880> like<00:25:45.120> that the garden program and things like that the garden program and things like that so<00:25:46.260> we're<00:25:46.799> going<00:25:47.039> to<00:25:47.220> in<00:25:47.400> our<00:25:47.580> budget<00:25:47.820> this so we’re going to in our budget this so we’re going to in our budget this year<00:25:48.320> show<00:25:49.320> what<00:25:49.919> it<00:25:50.100> costs<00:25:50.580> with<00:25:51.059> all<00:25:51.360> these year show what it costs with all these year show what it costs with all these additional<00:25:52.020> revenue<00:25:52.980> streams<00:25:53.460> and<00:25:53.820> Michelle additional revenue streams and Michelle additional revenue streams and Michelle will<00:25:54.360> make<00:25:54.539> that<00:25:54.779> a<00:25:54.960> part<00:25:55.140> of<00:25:55.500> her<00:25:55.679> budget<00:25:55.980> book will make that a part of her budget book will make that a part of her budget book so<00:25:57.779> I<00:25:58.020> will<00:25:58.200> kick<00:25:58.440> the<00:25:58.860> budget<00:25:59.640> planning<00:26:00.120> and so I will kick the budget planning and so I will kick the budget planning and discussion<00:26:00.960> back<00:26:01.260> to<00:26:01.380> Michelle<00:26:01.559> if<00:26:01.799> she<00:26:01.980> has discussion back to Michelle if she has discussion back to Michelle if she has anything<00:26:02.279> to<00:26:02.580> cover

26:08 um nothing in particular um nothing in particular um we’re<00:26:08.400> working<00:26:08.700> on<00:26:09.059> our<00:26:09.240> budget<00:26:09.480> requests um we’re working on our budget requests um we’re working on our budget requests right<00:26:10.140> now<00:26:10.320> John<00:26:10.620> and<00:26:10.799> I<00:26:10.980> have<00:26:11.159> meetings<00:26:11.520> with right now John and I have meetings with right now John and I have meetings with all<00:26:11.820> of<00:26:11.880> the<00:26:12.360> peoples<00:26:12.720> and<00:26:12.840> directors<00:26:13.200> set<00:26:13.559> up all of the peoples and directors set up all of the peoples and directors set up um beginning<00:26:14.220> tomorrow<00:26:14.840> and<00:26:15.840> we<00:26:16.020> will<00:26:16.140> be um beginning tomorrow and we will be um beginning tomorrow and we will be meeting<00:26:16.500> with<00:26:16.799> them<00:26:16.919> going<00:26:17.159> through<00:26:17.340> their meeting with them going through their meeting with them going through their budget<00:26:17.880> requests<00:26:18.419> just<00:26:18.659> trying<00:26:18.960> to budget requests just trying to budget requests just trying to um figure<00:26:20.340> out<00:26:20.580> you<00:26:21.179> know<00:26:21.240> what<00:26:21.419> page<00:26:21.539> we're um figure out you know what page we’re um figure out you know what page we’re on<00:26:22.080> and on and on and um<00:26:24.059> we'll<00:26:24.360> be<00:26:24.539> putting<00:26:24.779> the<00:26:24.900> books<00:26:25.140> together um we’ll be putting the books together um we’ll be putting the books together our<00:26:26.220> school<00:26:26.460> committee our school committee our school committee um<00:26:27.779> budget<00:26:28.140> meetings<00:26:28.440> I<00:26:28.679> believe<00:26:28.799> are<00:26:28.980> January um budget meetings I believe are January um budget meetings I believe are January 9th<00:26:29.700> and<00:26:29.820> 10th<00:26:30.179> and<00:26:30.900> we<00:26:31.140> will<00:26:31.260> review<00:26:31.440> those 9th and 10th and we will review those 9th and 10th and we will review those um budget<00:26:33.000> requests<00:26:33.419> at<00:26:33.539> that<00:26:33.720> time um budget requests at that time um budget requests at that time the<00:26:35.520> budget<00:26:35.760> books the budget books the budget books um<00:26:37.080> will<00:26:37.320> be<00:26:37.500> available<00:26:37.740> mostly<00:26:38.460> it's<00:26:38.580> going um will be available mostly it’s going um will be available mostly it’s going to<00:26:38.880> be<00:26:39.000> electronic<00:26:39.600> I<00:26:39.779> will<00:26:39.960> provide<00:26:40.320> school to be electronic I will provide school to be electronic I will provide school committee<00:26:40.980> members<00:26:41.220> that<00:26:41.460> want<00:26:41.640> a<00:26:41.760> hard<00:26:41.880> copy committee members that want a hard copy committee members that want a hard copy of<00:26:42.299> the<00:26:42.419> binder<00:26:42.779> with<00:26:43.020> a<00:26:43.080> hard<00:26:43.200> copy<00:26:43.559> copy of the binder with a hard copy copy of the binder with a hard copy copy otherwise<00:26:44.159> they<00:26:44.400> will<00:26:44.580> actually<00:26:44.820> be<00:26:45.059> on<00:26:45.360> the otherwise they will actually be on the otherwise they will actually be on the website website website um<00:26:46.620> you<00:26:47.100> know<00:26:47.159> by<00:26:47.460> the<00:26:47.580> week<00:26:47.700> of<00:26:47.880> January<00:26:48.240> 9th um you know by the week of January 9th um you know by the week of January 9th and<00:26:49.860> so<00:26:50.700> um<00:26:50.760> the<00:26:51.000> public<00:26:51.120> will<00:26:51.360> be<00:26:51.480> able<00:26:51.600> to<00:26:51.720> see and so um the public will be able to see and so um the public will be able to see all<00:26:52.260> of<00:26:52.380> our<00:26:52.559> requests<00:26:52.980> in<00:26:53.100> addition<00:26:53.340> to

26:53 all of our requests in addition to all of our requests in addition to anyone<00:26:53.820> else<00:26:54.000> who<00:26:54.299> who<00:26:54.720> was<00:26:54.960> so<00:26:55.740> inclined<00:26:56.279> to anyone else who who was so inclined to anyone else who who was so inclined to review<00:26:56.580> our<00:26:56.880> budget review our budget review our budget um um um and<00:27:00.059> we<00:27:00.539> will<00:27:00.779> we're<00:27:01.200> we're<00:27:01.200> trying<00:27:02.039> to and we will we’re we’re trying to and we will we’re we’re trying to capture<00:27:02.700> a<00:27:03.120> little<00:27:03.240> bit<00:27:03.419> of<00:27:03.539> a<00:27:03.659> look<00:27:03.779> forward capture a little bit of a look forward capture a little bit of a look forward um this<00:27:05.159> year<00:27:05.279> we<00:27:05.520> did<00:27:05.700> ask<00:27:06.120> them<00:27:06.480> not um this year we did ask them not um this year we did ask them not specifically<00:27:07.260> what<00:27:07.620> are<00:27:07.799> your<00:27:07.860> numbers<00:27:08.100> for specifically what are your numbers for specifically what are your numbers for you<00:27:08.880> know<00:27:09.000> the<00:27:09.480> year<00:27:09.659> after<00:27:09.840> next<00:27:10.200> but<00:27:10.500> what you know the year after next but what you know the year after next but what types<00:27:11.100> of<00:27:11.220> things<00:27:11.460> and<00:27:11.820> what<00:27:12.059> types<00:27:12.360> of<00:27:12.480> larger types of things and what types of larger types of things and what types of larger expenditures<00:27:14.039> do<00:27:14.460> you<00:27:14.640> see<00:27:14.880> coming<00:27:15.120> down<00:27:15.419> the expenditures do you see coming down the expenditures do you see coming down the pike<00:27:15.840> so<00:27:16.440> we're<00:27:16.620> trying<00:27:16.799> to<00:27:17.100> grasp<00:27:17.460> you<00:27:17.760> know pike so we’re trying to grasp you know pike so we’re trying to grasp you know whether<00:27:18.299> our<00:27:18.480> curriculum<00:27:19.020> cost<00:27:19.200> is<00:27:19.440> so<00:27:19.679> you whether our curriculum cost is so you whether our curriculum cost is so you know<00:27:20.039> just<00:27:20.220> half<00:27:20.400> a<00:27:20.580> million<00:27:20.820> dollars<00:27:21.000> for<00:27:21.240> FY know just half a million dollars for FY know just half a million dollars for FY 24<00:27:21.720> well<00:27:22.200> what's<00:27:22.320> that<00:27:22.500> going<00:27:22.620> to<00:27:22.679> look<00:27:22.799> like 24 well what’s that going to look like 24 well what’s that going to look like an<00:27:23.039> fy25<00:27:23.820> so<00:27:24.179> we're<00:27:24.360> trying<00:27:24.539> to<00:27:24.600> get<00:27:24.720> a<00:27:24.840> little an fy25 so we’re trying to get a little an fy25 so we’re trying to get a little bit<00:27:25.140> of<00:27:25.460> additional<00:27:26.460> information<00:27:26.760> there<00:27:27.440> and bit of additional information there and bit of additional information there and as<00:27:28.559> Sarah<00:27:28.740> mentioned<00:27:29.159> we<00:27:29.279> are<00:27:29.400> doing<00:27:29.580> a<00:27:29.760> look as Sarah mentioned we are doing a look as Sarah mentioned we are doing a look back<00:27:30.120> with<00:27:30.539> this<00:27:30.779> special<00:27:31.020> education back with this special education back with this special education tuitions tuitions tuitions um<00:27:33.480> and<00:27:34.080> whatnot<00:27:34.440> so<00:27:34.679> we're<00:27:34.919> trying<00:27:35.400> to<00:27:35.640> look um and whatnot so we’re trying to look um and whatnot so we’re trying to look back<00:27:36.120> but<00:27:37.020> also<00:27:37.620> as<00:27:37.799> Sarah<00:27:38.039> mentioned<00:27:38.580> the

27:39 back but also as Sarah mentioned the back but also as Sarah mentioned the soft<00:27:39.360> right<00:27:39.659> system<00:27:39.960> is<00:27:40.559> extremely<00:27:41.460> difficult soft right system is extremely difficult soft right system is extremely difficult to<00:27:41.940> get<00:27:42.120> any<00:27:42.299> information<00:27:42.480> out<00:27:42.900> historically to get any information out historically to get any information out historically and<00:27:44.520> that<00:27:44.880> is<00:27:45.059> actually<00:27:45.240> only and that is actually only and that is actually only Limited<00:27:48.000> in<00:27:48.120> terms<00:27:48.360> of<00:27:48.419> what<00:27:48.720> was<00:27:48.840> actually Limited in terms of what was actually Limited in terms of what was actually put<00:27:49.320> in<00:27:49.500> through<00:27:49.620> the<00:27:49.799> system<00:27:49.919> so<00:27:50.340> if put in through the system so if put in through the system so if something<00:27:50.760> else<00:27:50.940> was<00:27:51.120> paid<00:27:51.360> from<00:27:51.600> another something else was paid from another something else was paid from another funding<00:27:52.200> source<00:27:52.500> and<00:27:52.620> then<00:27:52.740> journal<00:27:53.039> entry funding source and then journal entry funding source and then journal entry out<00:27:53.580> so<00:27:54.179> when<00:27:54.360> we're<00:27:54.480> going<00:27:54.659> back<00:27:54.840> to<00:27:55.020> FY<00:27:55.320> 18 out so when we’re going back to FY 18 out so when we’re going back to FY 18 and<00:27:55.860> FY<00:27:56.220> 19<00:27:56.460> that<00:27:57.419> is<00:27:57.539> when<00:27:57.779> the<00:27:58.200> fiscal and FY 19 that is when the fiscal and FY 19 that is when the fiscal nightmare<00:27:59.100> happened<00:27:59.460> and<00:28:00.059> the<00:28:00.240> budget nightmare happened and the budget nightmare happened and the budget shortfall<00:28:01.020> so<00:28:01.620> that<00:28:01.980> even<00:28:02.159> complicates shortfall so that even complicates shortfall so that even complicates things<00:28:03.059> a<00:28:03.299> little<00:28:03.480> more<00:28:03.840> to<00:28:04.320> actually<00:28:04.559> look<00:28:04.799> at things a little more to actually look at things a little more to actually look at the<00:28:05.100> FY<00:28:05.400> 19<00:28:05.640> and<00:28:06.000> FY<00:28:06.299> 18<00:28:06.539> years<00:28:07.140> so<00:28:07.799> when<00:28:08.520> I<00:28:08.700> came the FY 19 and FY 18 years so when I came the FY 19 and FY 18 years so when I came on<00:28:09.000> in<00:28:09.240> fy20<00:28:09.779> I<00:28:10.380> had<00:28:10.620> a<00:28:10.740> good<00:28:10.799> grasp<00:28:11.159> on<00:28:11.279> where on in fy20 I had a good grasp on where on in fy20 I had a good grasp on where we<00:28:11.640> were<00:28:11.820> at<00:28:12.000> that<00:28:12.179> time<00:28:12.360> I'm<00:28:13.080> confident<00:28:13.440> in we were at that time I’m confident in we were at that time I’m confident in those<00:28:13.919> numbers<00:28:14.159> looking<00:28:14.640> back<00:28:14.940> beyond<00:28:15.360> that those numbers looking back beyond that those numbers looking back beyond that it’s<00:28:16.740> a<00:28:16.919> little<00:28:16.980> funky<00:28:17.400> so it’s a little funky so it’s a little funky so um we’re<00:28:18.659> gonna<00:28:18.779> do<00:28:18.960> the<00:28:19.140> best<00:28:19.260> we<00:28:19.500> can<00:28:19.679> and um we’re gonna do the best we can and um we’re gonna do the best we can and give<00:28:20.640> you<00:28:20.820> all<00:28:21.000> the<00:28:21.120> information<00:28:21.299> but<00:28:22.500> um give you all the information but um give you all the information but um we’re<00:28:22.679> trying<00:28:22.919> to<00:28:23.100> be<00:28:23.279> as<00:28:24.179> open<00:28:24.360> as

28:24 we’re trying to be as open as we’re trying to be as open as transparent<00:28:25.440> and<00:28:25.799> we<00:28:25.980> don't<00:28:26.100> want<00:28:26.220> any transparent and we don’t want any transparent and we don’t want any surprises<00:28:27.059> but<00:28:27.419> we<00:28:27.720> certainly<00:28:28.080> want<00:28:28.500> everyone surprises but we certainly want everyone surprises but we certainly want everyone to<00:28:29.100> understand<00:28:29.279> what<00:28:29.760> we're<00:28:29.880> up<00:28:30.059> against to understand what we’re up against to understand what we’re up against right<00:28:30.539> now

28:36 we elaborate on that I know we elaborate on that I know that<00:28:37.260> the that the that the salaries<00:28:39.059> were salaries were salaries were that<00:28:40.559> number's<00:28:40.980> really<00:28:41.159> big<00:28:41.400> I<00:28:42.059> understand that number’s really big I understand that number’s really big I understand people<00:28:42.600> see<00:28:42.900> a<00:28:43.080> giant<00:28:43.380> number<00:28:43.559> we<00:28:44.220> will<00:28:44.400> make people see a giant number we will make people see a giant number we will make it<00:28:45.120> available<00:28:45.360> to<00:28:45.779> everyone<00:28:46.020> the<00:28:46.500> breakdown it available to everyone the breakdown it available to everyone the breakdown the<00:28:47.279> line<00:28:47.400> items<00:28:47.880> of<00:28:48.000> that the line items of that the line items of that um<00:28:49.140> so<00:28:49.380> people<00:28:49.620> know<00:28:50.159> what<00:28:50.640> goes<00:28:51.000> into<00:28:51.179> that um so people know what goes into that um so people know what goes into that that<00:28:51.840> giant<00:28:52.320> number that giant number that giant number um um um and<00:28:54.960> then<00:28:55.080> if<00:28:55.500> I<00:28:55.860> don't<00:28:55.980> I<00:28:56.100> don't<00:28:56.279> know<00:28:56.340> if<00:28:56.400> this and then if I don’t I don’t know if this and then if I don’t I don’t know if this is<00:28:56.640> the<00:28:56.820> appropriate<00:28:57.179> place<00:28:57.419> for<00:28:57.659> this<00:28:57.779> plug is the appropriate place for this plug is the appropriate place for this plug but<00:28:58.559> I<00:28:58.919> every<00:28:59.279> chance<00:28:59.520> I<00:28:59.760> get but I every chance I get but I every chance I get can<00:29:01.020> we<00:29:01.260> please<00:29:01.620> move<00:29:02.100> on<00:29:02.279> from<00:29:02.520> soft<00:29:02.700> right can we please move on from soft right can we please move on from soft right can<00:29:03.360> we<00:29:03.480> invest<00:29:03.900> in<00:29:04.440> a<00:29:04.620> different can we invest in a different can we invest in a different um um um program<00:29:08.600> Michelle<00:29:09.600> has<00:29:09.960> been<00:29:10.279> phenomenal program Michelle has been phenomenal program Michelle has been phenomenal phenomenal<00:29:12.179> about<00:29:12.480> bringing<00:29:12.900> transparency phenomenal about bringing transparency phenomenal about bringing transparency to<00:29:13.799> our<00:29:13.919> books<00:29:14.220> the<00:29:14.460> problem<00:29:14.640> is<00:29:14.940> it<00:29:15.419> is<00:29:15.600> not to our books the problem is it is not to our books the problem is it is not it’s<00:29:16.620> not<00:29:16.919> easy<00:29:17.279> to<00:29:18.000> give<00:29:18.240> reports<00:29:18.779> a<00:29:19.080> lot<00:29:19.200> of it’s not easy to give reports a lot of it’s not easy to give reports a lot of these<00:29:19.440> reports<00:29:19.799> and<00:29:19.919> other<00:29:20.100> programs<00:29:20.580> you these reports and other programs you these reports and other programs you would<00:29:20.940> just<00:29:21.120> be<00:29:21.360> able<00:29:21.720> to<00:29:22.559> you<00:29:22.799> know

29:23 would just be able to you know would just be able to you know essentially<00:29:24.240> click<00:29:24.600> on<00:29:24.659> and<00:29:24.899> move<00:29:25.080> forward essentially click on and move forward essentially click on and move forward and<00:29:26.279> we<00:29:26.520> can't<00:29:26.700> do<00:29:27.000> that and we can’t do that and we can’t do that um<00:29:27.960> so<00:29:28.200> it<00:29:28.380> makes<00:29:28.740> these<00:29:29.159> look<00:29:29.399> backs<00:29:29.940> and um so it makes these look backs and um so it makes these look backs and therefore<00:29:30.720> projections<00:29:31.559> really<00:29:32.039> really<00:29:32.279> hard therefore projections really really hard therefore projections really really hard so<00:29:33.960> I<00:29:34.679> mean<00:29:34.860> it<00:29:34.980> makes<00:29:35.159> everything<00:29:35.340> really so I mean it makes everything really so I mean it makes everything really really<00:29:35.820> hard<00:29:36.120> I<00:29:36.899> know<00:29:37.200> I'm<00:29:37.559> really<00:29:37.799> hoping really hard I know I’m really hoping really hard I know I’m really hoping that<00:29:38.880> we<00:29:39.059> move<00:29:39.240> away<00:29:39.480> from<00:29:39.840> this<00:29:40.380> is<00:29:40.500> the<00:29:40.620> year that we move away from this is the year that we move away from this is the year that<00:29:41.279> we<00:29:41.399> move<00:29:41.580> away<00:29:41.820> from<00:29:42.059> soft<00:29:42.360> right that we move away from soft right that we move away from soft right because<00:29:42.899> it's<00:29:43.320> really<00:29:43.740> important<00:29:44.159> to<00:29:44.399> bring because it’s really important to bring because it’s really important to bring Clarity<00:29:45.240> to<00:29:46.140> our<00:29:46.980> budget<00:29:47.279> planning<00:29:47.640> and Clarity to our budget planning and Clarity to our budget planning and budget<00:29:48.059> look<00:29:48.299> blacks budget look blacks budget look blacks foreign

29:56 concerns thoughts from anybody concerns thoughts from anybody I<00:29:56.760> would<00:29:56.880> just<00:29:57.000> say<00:29:57.240> so<00:29:57.779> thank<00:29:58.380> you<00:29:58.559> for<00:29:58.860> noting I would just say so thank you for noting I would just say so thank you for noting um that<00:30:00.480> was<00:30:00.659> one<00:30:01.200> thing<00:30:01.380> that<00:30:01.620> I<00:30:01.740> wanted<00:30:01.860> to um that was one thing that I wanted to um that was one thing that I wanted to be<00:30:02.220> clear<00:30:02.520> I'm<00:30:03.360> I'm<00:30:03.720> not<00:30:03.899> going<00:30:04.020> to<00:30:04.140> share<00:30:04.260> my be clear I’m I’m not going to share my be clear I’m I’m not going to share my screen<00:30:04.620> because<00:30:04.860> I<00:30:04.980> don't<00:30:05.039> even<00:30:05.159> think<00:30:05.399> I<00:30:05.580> can screen because I don’t even think I can screen because I don’t even think I can right<00:30:06.000> now<00:30:06.120> but<00:30:06.419> I'm<00:30:06.960> looking<00:30:07.200> at<00:30:07.559> kind<00:30:07.919> of<00:30:08.039> the right now but I’m looking at kind of the right now but I’m looking at kind of the documents<00:30:09.059> Michelle<00:30:09.299> that documents Michelle that documents Michelle that um<00:30:11.039> was<00:30:11.399> the<00:30:11.580> budget<00:30:11.880> request<00:30:12.360> summary<00:30:12.960> as<00:30:13.559> of um was the budget request summary as of um was the budget request summary as of whatever<00:30:13.980> date<00:30:14.399> that<00:30:14.640> was<00:30:14.820> shared<00:30:15.120> throughout whatever date that was shared throughout whatever date that was shared throughout and<00:30:15.840> the<00:30:16.020> first<00:30:16.200> line<00:30:16.500> was<00:30:17.100> base<00:30:17.700> salaries and the first line was base salaries and the first line was base salaries wages<00:30:18.600> from<00:30:19.320> fiscal<00:30:19.679> year<00:30:19.860> 22<00:30:20.279> appropriation wages from fiscal year 22 appropriation wages from fiscal year 22 appropriation um you<00:30:22.200> know<00:30:22.320> the<00:30:22.559> budgeted<00:30:22.980> and<00:30:23.220> the<00:30:23.399> request um you know the budgeted and the request um you know the budgeted and the request and<00:30:23.880> then<00:30:24.059> it<00:30:24.179> was<00:30:24.299> bridged<00:30:24.659> from<00:30:24.840> there and then it was bridged from there and then it was bridged from there um<00:30:25.860> it<00:30:26.039> sounds<00:30:26.159> like<00:30:26.340> Sarah<00:30:26.580> there's<00:30:27.000> plans<00:30:27.480> to um it sounds like Sarah there’s plans to um it sounds like Sarah there’s plans to you<00:30:28.559> know<00:30:28.620> in<00:30:28.919> this<00:30:29.100> document<00:30:29.399> that<00:30:29.700> we're you know in this document that we’re you know in this document that we’re reviewing<00:30:30.299> fincom<00:30:30.960> and<00:30:31.440> school<00:30:31.679> department reviewing fincom and school department reviewing fincom and school department and<00:30:32.580> then<00:30:32.760> ultimately<00:30:33.240> the<00:30:33.960> documents<00:30:34.440> that's and then ultimately the documents that’s and then ultimately the documents that’s getting<00:30:34.860> posted<00:30:35.279> on<00:30:35.520> your<00:30:35.640> site<00:30:35.820> or<00:30:36.000> whatever getting posted on your site or whatever getting posted on your site or whatever will<00:30:36.539> have<00:30:36.840> pages<00:30:37.559> and<00:30:37.799> pages<00:30:38.159> of<00:30:38.760> data<00:30:39.419> that will have pages and pages of data that will have pages and pages of data that build<00:30:39.840> up<00:30:40.080> into<00:30:40.380> those<00:30:40.679> numbers

30:41 build up into those numbers build up into those numbers um<00:30:41.880> both<00:30:42.120> for um both for um both for and<00:30:43.500> this<00:30:43.620> is<00:30:43.740> a<00:30:43.919> request<00:30:44.220> would<00:30:44.640> be<00:30:44.820> could<00:30:45.480> we and this is a request would be could we and this is a request would be could we have<00:30:45.960> fiscal<00:30:46.500> year<00:30:46.679> 22<00:30:47.460> budget<00:30:48.360> or<00:30:48.779> actual have fiscal year 22 budget or actual have fiscal year 22 budget or actual actually actually actually um fiscal<00:30:50.940> year<00:30:51.120> 23<00:30:51.600> budget<00:30:52.020> and<00:30:52.260> then<00:30:52.380> fiscal um fiscal year 23 budget and then fiscal um fiscal year 23 budget and then fiscal year<00:30:52.980> 24<00:30:53.279> request<00:30:53.940> that's<00:30:54.779> generally<00:30:55.200> the<00:30:55.679> at year 24 request that’s generally the at year 24 request that’s generally the at least<00:30:56.340> for<00:30:56.640> this<00:30:57.000> exercise<00:30:57.559> is<00:30:58.559> the<00:30:58.799> three least for this exercise is the three least for this exercise is the three years<00:30:59.159> is<00:30:59.399> what<00:30:59.580> we<00:30:59.700> do<00:30:59.820> with<00:31:00.059> every<00:31:00.299> other years is what we do with every other years is what we do with every other department department department um and<00:31:02.700> I<00:31:02.880> really<00:31:03.140> you<00:31:04.140> know<00:31:04.260> just<00:31:04.799> want<00:31:04.980> to um and I really you know just want to um and I really you know just want to make<00:31:05.340> sure<00:31:05.580> you<00:31:06.299> know<00:31:06.419> as<00:31:06.720> part<00:31:06.899> of<00:31:07.020> our make sure you know as part of our make sure you know as part of our process<00:31:07.500> I<00:31:07.740> know<00:31:07.860> we<00:31:08.100> got<00:31:08.340> that<00:31:08.880> detail<00:31:09.299> in<00:31:09.659> a process I know we got that detail in a process I know we got that detail in a binder<00:31:10.260> at<00:31:10.440> the<00:31:10.559> beginning<00:31:10.679> of<00:31:10.860> the<00:31:10.980> year<00:31:11.100> last binder at the beginning of the year last binder at the beginning of the year last year<00:31:11.820> so<00:31:12.000> we<00:31:12.240> had<00:31:12.480> it<00:31:12.720> but<00:31:13.260> let's<00:31:13.440> just<00:31:13.620> make<00:31:13.799> it year so we had it but let’s just make it year so we had it but let’s just make it digital<00:31:14.399> so<00:31:14.940> that<00:31:15.059> we<00:31:15.179> don't<00:31:15.299> have<00:31:15.419> to<00:31:15.539> deal digital so that we don’t have to deal digital so that we don’t have to deal with<00:31:16.080> folks<00:31:16.740> standing<00:31:17.100> up<00:31:17.220> and<00:31:17.340> saying<00:31:17.700> it's with folks standing up and saying it’s with folks standing up and saying it’s it’s<00:31:18.240> not<00:31:18.480> like<00:31:18.779> I'll<00:31:19.140> stand<00:31:19.380> up<00:31:19.559> and<00:31:19.679> say<00:31:19.860> yes it’s not like I’ll stand up and say yes it’s not like I’ll stand up and say yes it<00:31:20.340> has<00:31:20.520> it's<00:31:20.700> right<00:31:20.940> here<00:31:21.120> you it has it’s right here you it has it’s right here you will<00:31:23.520> absolutely<00:31:23.880> have<00:31:24.120> that<00:31:24.360> this<00:31:24.600> year<00:31:24.779> okay will absolutely have that this year okay will absolutely have that this year okay and<00:31:26.460> then

31:27 and then and then as<00:31:27.899> part<00:31:28.140> of<00:31:28.380> that<00:31:28.679> Breakout as part of that Breakout as part of that Breakout because<00:31:30.360> again<00:31:30.600> I'm<00:31:30.779> looking<00:31:31.020> at<00:31:31.200> the<00:31:31.440> the because again I’m looking at the the because again I’m looking at the the second<00:31:31.799> page<00:31:32.159> where<00:31:32.399> it's<00:31:32.520> showing<00:31:32.880> the<00:31:33.419> um second page where it’s showing the um second page where it’s showing the um you<00:31:34.080> know<00:31:34.200> the<00:31:34.380> non-salary<00:31:34.980> expenses<00:31:35.399> or<00:31:35.640> the you know the non-salary expenses or the you know the non-salary expenses or the expense<00:31:36.120> line<00:31:36.360> items<00:31:36.899> that's<00:31:37.500> nice<00:31:37.799> and expense line items that’s nice and expense line items that’s nice and sorted<00:31:38.460> brown<00:31:38.820> professional<00:31:39.360> development sorted brown professional development sorted brown professional development Brown<00:31:40.200> in-state<00:31:40.740> travel<00:31:40.919> so<00:31:41.760> to<00:31:41.940> the<00:31:42.120> extents Brown in-state travel so to the extents Brown in-state travel so to the extents you<00:31:42.779> can<00:31:42.899> sort<00:31:43.200> those<00:31:43.620> salaries<00:31:44.659> kind<00:31:45.659> of<00:31:45.840> two you can sort those salaries kind of two you can sort those salaries kind of two ways<00:31:46.559> one<00:31:46.919> by<00:31:47.220> school<00:31:47.460> and<00:31:47.880> two<00:31:48.120> by<00:31:48.539> what's<00:31:49.200> a ways one by school and two by what’s a ways one by school and two by what’s a teacher<00:31:49.740> position<00:31:49.919> whether<00:31:50.880> that's<00:31:51.120> a teacher position whether that’s a teacher position whether that’s a teacher<00:31:51.960> or<00:31:52.080> a<00:31:52.260> supporting<00:31:52.620> whatever<00:31:53.159> it<00:31:53.460> may teacher or a supporting whatever it may teacher or a supporting whatever it may be<00:31:53.700> you<00:31:53.940> guys<00:31:54.059> know<00:31:54.240> the<00:31:54.419> department<00:31:54.600> and<00:31:55.320> then be you guys know the department and then be you guys know the department and then what’s<00:31:55.679> a<00:31:55.860> non-teacher<00:31:56.399> position<00:31:56.580> I<00:31:57.299> think what’s a non-teacher position I think what’s a non-teacher position I think that<00:31:57.600> would<00:31:57.659> be<00:31:57.840> helpful<00:31:58.020> for<00:31:58.260> us<00:31:58.380> to<00:31:58.500> see<00:31:58.620> too that would be helpful for us to see too that would be helpful for us to see too I<00:31:59.039> don't<00:31:59.159> know<00:31:59.279> if<00:31:59.460> that's<00:31:59.700> easy<00:32:00.000> to<00:32:00.299> do I don’t know if that’s easy to do I don’t know if that’s easy to do um<00:32:01.679> yeah um yeah um yeah if<00:32:04.200> if<00:32:04.380> we<00:32:04.740> follow<00:32:04.980> our if if we follow our if if we follow our um breakout<00:32:07.140> of<00:32:07.320> account<00:32:07.500> line<00:32:07.919> items<00:32:08.340> it um breakout of account line items it um breakout of account line items it will<00:32:08.760> be<00:32:08.880> it<00:32:09.059> will<00:32:09.240> be<00:32:09.360> it's<00:32:10.080> it's<00:32:10.260> actually will be it will be it’s it’s actually will be it will be it’s it’s actually it’s<00:32:11.159> much<00:32:11.460> more<00:32:11.700> broken<00:32:12.000> down<00:32:12.240> than<00:32:12.539> just

32:12 it’s much more broken down than just it’s much more broken down than just teacher<00:32:13.020> non-teacher<00:32:13.620> it<00:32:14.100> would<00:32:14.279> be<00:32:14.399> teacher teacher non-teacher it would be teacher teacher non-teacher it would be teacher special<00:32:15.240> education<00:32:15.779> teacher special education teacher special education teacher um um um Paris<00:32:19.020> tutors<00:32:19.559> custodians<00:32:20.399> it<00:32:20.580> breaks<00:32:21.059> it Paris tutors custodians it breaks it Paris tutors custodians it breaks it down<00:32:21.299> into<00:32:21.539> every<00:32:21.899> single<00:32:22.140> category<00:32:22.559> by down into every single category by down into every single category by school<00:32:23.039> so<00:32:23.700> that<00:32:23.820> that<00:32:24.000> was<00:32:24.240> how<00:32:24.419> I<00:32:24.600> was school so that that was how I was school so that that was how I was planning<00:32:25.020> on<00:32:25.200> moving<00:32:25.500> forward<00:32:25.679> and<00:32:26.340> if planning on moving forward and if planning on moving forward and if they’re<00:32:26.700> a<00:32:26.820> full<00:32:27.000> year<00:32:27.179> employee<00:32:27.779> I<00:32:28.380> know<00:32:28.500> that they’re a full year employee I know that they’re a full year employee I know that what<00:32:28.980> we<00:32:29.159> got<00:32:29.399> last<00:32:29.640> year<00:32:29.760> breaks<00:32:30.059> it<00:32:30.179> down<00:32:30.299> if what we got last year breaks it down if what we got last year breaks it down if it’s<00:32:30.659> a<00:32:30.840> full<00:32:30.960> year<00:32:31.140> employee<00:32:31.620> a<00:32:31.860> partial<00:32:32.159> year it’s a full year employee a partial year it’s a full year employee a partial year employee<00:32:32.880> how<00:32:33.179> many<00:32:33.299> pay<00:32:33.539> Cycles<00:32:34.559> and<00:32:35.100> that employee how many pay Cycles and that employee how many pay Cycles and that that’s<00:32:35.520> also<00:32:35.820> really<00:32:36.000> helpful<00:32:36.299> for<00:32:36.539> I<00:32:36.840> think that’s also really helpful for I think that’s also really helpful for I think really<00:32:37.140> helpful<00:32:37.440> information<00:32:37.620> so<00:32:38.039> we<00:32:38.279> all<00:32:38.460> got really helpful information so we all got really helpful information so we all got that<00:32:38.820> last<00:32:39.059> year<00:32:39.179> and<00:32:39.360> I<00:32:39.480> think<00:32:39.659> anything<00:32:40.080> the that last year and I think anything the that last year and I think anything the school<00:32:40.559> committee<00:32:40.980> got<00:32:41.159> the<00:32:41.399> ideas school committee got the ideas school committee got the ideas you<00:32:42.960> know<00:32:43.080> it's<00:32:43.200> it's<00:32:43.380> going<00:32:43.620> to<00:32:43.799> be<00:32:43.860> out<00:32:44.039> there you know it’s it’s going to be out there you know it’s it’s going to be out there everyone’s<00:32:45.000> gonna<00:32:45.179> happen everyone’s gonna happen everyone’s gonna happen yeah I<00:32:46.860> think<00:32:47.039> that<00:32:47.279> would<00:32:47.580> be<00:32:47.700> great yeah I think that would be great yeah I think that would be great starting<00:32:48.360> point<00:32:48.720> and<00:32:49.320> you<00:32:49.860> know<00:32:49.919> this<00:32:50.100> meeting starting point and you know this meeting starting point and you know this meeting is<00:32:50.640> great<00:32:50.880> because<00:32:51.059> I<00:32:51.299> think<00:32:51.419> our<00:32:51.840> liaison is great because I think our liaison is great because I think our liaison meeting<00:32:53.399> window<00:32:53.760> is<00:32:54.179> kind<00:32:54.480> of<00:32:54.539> pushed<00:32:54.899> back<00:32:55.080> to meeting window is kind of pushed back to meeting window is kind of pushed back to like<00:32:56.220> the<00:32:56.460> two<00:32:56.580> years<00:32:56.820> ago<00:32:57.059> and<00:32:57.299> earlier<00:32:57.720> kind

32:58 like the two years ago and earlier kind like the two years ago and earlier kind of<00:32:58.200> from<00:32:58.799> January<00:32:59.279> through<00:32:59.700> March of from January through March of from January through March um<00:33:01.440> I<00:33:01.919> think<00:33:02.039> we<00:33:02.340> have um I think we have um I think we have four<00:33:03.840> budget<00:33:04.320> hearing<00:33:04.740> nights<00:33:05.159> scheduled four budget hearing nights scheduled four budget hearing nights scheduled February<00:33:06.240> 13th<00:33:06.840> 27th<00:33:07.640> March<00:33:08.640> 13th<00:33:09.179> March<00:33:09.600> 27th February 13th 27th March 13th March 27th February 13th 27th March 13th March 27th as<00:33:11.100> of<00:33:11.279> now<00:33:11.580> we<00:33:12.059> will<00:33:12.179> plan<00:33:12.360> on<00:33:12.600> schools<00:33:12.960> being as of now we will plan on schools being as of now we will plan on schools being March<00:33:13.559> 13th<00:33:14.159> noting<00:33:14.940> that<00:33:15.179> that<00:33:15.360> fourth<00:33:15.720> night March 13th noting that that fourth night March 13th noting that that fourth night is<00:33:16.080> the<00:33:16.260> catch-all<00:33:16.679> should<00:33:16.980> we<00:33:17.460> need<00:33:17.640> more is the catch-all should we need more is the catch-all should we need more time<00:33:18.120> for<00:33:18.600> any<00:33:18.779> department<00:33:19.019> so<00:33:19.500> I<00:33:19.679> would<00:33:19.860> not time for any department so I would not time for any department so I would not be<00:33:20.220> surprised<00:33:20.580> if<00:33:20.760> we<00:33:20.880> go<00:33:21.059> there<00:33:21.299> so<00:33:21.659> you<00:33:22.320> know be surprised if we go there so you know be surprised if we go there so you know this<00:33:23.039> is<00:33:23.159> kind<00:33:23.399> of<00:33:23.460> what<00:33:23.820> I<00:33:23.940> view<00:33:24.120> from<00:33:24.899> our this is kind of what I view from our this is kind of what I view from our perspective<00:33:25.500> of<00:33:25.799> this<00:33:25.919> meeting<00:33:26.100> as<00:33:26.399> a perspective of this meeting as a perspective of this meeting as a planning<00:33:26.880> meeting<00:33:27.120> for<00:33:27.960> a<00:33:28.140> number<00:33:28.260> of<00:33:28.440> liaison planning meeting for a number of liaison planning meeting for a number of liaison meetings<00:33:29.279> we're<00:33:29.460> going<00:33:29.640> to<00:33:29.760> have<00:33:29.880> over<00:33:30.299> the meetings we’re going to have over the meetings we’re going to have over the next<00:33:30.659> you<00:33:31.200> know<00:33:31.320> between<00:33:31.500> January<00:33:32.100> and<00:33:32.340> the next you know between January and the next you know between January and the end<00:33:32.580> of<00:33:32.700> March<00:33:33.000> so<00:33:33.240> we<00:33:33.480> have<00:33:33.600> time end of March so we have time end of March so we have time um<00:33:35.039> and<00:33:35.279> presumably<00:33:35.760> there<00:33:36.059> will<00:33:36.179> be<00:33:36.299> numbers um and presumably there will be numbers um and presumably there will be numbers moving<00:33:37.080> throughout<00:33:37.559> that<00:33:37.919> you<00:33:38.279> know<00:33:38.399> fiscal moving throughout that you know fiscal moving throughout that you know fiscal year<00:33:39.179> 24<00:33:39.539> budget<00:33:40.500> development<00:33:40.919> process year 24 budget development process year 24 budget development process um I’ll<00:33:43.140> let<00:33:43.500> cam<00:33:43.799> kind<00:33:44.220> of<00:33:44.279> speak<00:33:44.460> in<00:33:44.640> a

33:44 um I’ll let cam kind of speak in a um I’ll let cam kind of speak in a minute<00:33:44.880> here<00:33:45.059> but<00:33:45.360> another<00:33:45.840> item<00:33:46.260> we<00:33:46.500> were minute here but another item we were minute here but another item we were hoping<00:33:47.039> for<00:33:47.419> was hoping for was hoping for was the<00:33:50.039> overall<00:33:50.779> budget<00:33:51.779> the<00:33:52.019> process<00:33:52.679> to<00:33:52.919> which the overall budget the process to which the overall budget the process to which it<00:33:53.279> was<00:33:53.399> presented<00:33:53.820> to<00:33:54.000> us<00:33:54.120> last<00:33:54.419> year<00:33:54.659> before it was presented to us last year before it was presented to us last year before we<00:33:55.919> determined<00:33:56.399> you<00:33:56.700> know<00:33:56.760> how<00:33:57.000> much<00:33:57.179> the<00:33:57.419> town we determined you know how much the town we determined you know how much the town could<00:33:57.899> support<00:33:58.279> versus<00:33:59.279> what<00:33:59.760> was<00:33:59.880> went<00:34:00.179> for could support versus what was went for could support versus what was went for in<00:34:00.720> that<00:34:00.960> you<00:34:01.200> know<00:34:01.260> end<00:34:01.559> article<00:34:02.100> in<00:34:02.940> last in that you know end article in last in that you know end article in last year<00:34:03.179> is<00:34:03.659> warrant year is warrant year is warrant um<00:34:05.279> was<00:34:06.120> presenting<00:34:06.779> you<00:34:07.080> know<00:34:07.140> your um was presenting you know your um was presenting you know your all-inclusive<00:34:08.099> needs<00:34:08.399> based<00:34:08.760> budget<00:34:09.000> as<00:34:09.240> you all-inclusive needs based budget as you all-inclusive needs based budget as you defined<00:34:09.839> it<00:34:10.020> and<00:34:10.919> not<00:34:11.280> bifurcating<00:34:12.000> at<00:34:12.300> all defined it and not bifurcating at all defined it and not bifurcating at all until<00:34:12.839> we<00:34:13.200> got<00:34:13.320> to<00:34:13.500> that<00:34:13.740> point<00:34:13.980> I<00:34:14.700> think<00:34:14.820> it until we got to that point I think it until we got to that point I think it would<00:34:15.119> be<00:34:15.240> helpful<00:34:15.599> if<00:34:16.320> we<00:34:16.500> could<00:34:16.619> have<00:34:16.980> a would be helpful if we could have a would be helpful if we could have a budget<00:34:17.639> which<00:34:18.179> would<00:34:18.480> be<00:34:18.720> level<00:34:19.320> Services budget which would be level Services budget which would be level Services which<00:34:20.399> should<00:34:20.639> include<00:34:21.260> contractual which should include contractual which should include contractual obligation<00:34:22.740> adjustments<00:34:23.399> of<00:34:23.580> course obligation adjustments of course obligation adjustments of course um<00:34:24.780> but<00:34:25.020> also<00:34:25.260> those<00:34:25.440> items<00:34:25.740> that<00:34:25.919> you<00:34:26.040> guys um but also those items that you guys um but also those items that you guys let<00:34:26.399> off<00:34:26.580> the<00:34:26.760> call<00:34:26.940> tonight<00:34:27.179> with<00:34:27.480> right<00:34:27.780> like let off the call tonight with right like let off the call tonight with right like contractual<00:34:29.159> obligations<00:34:29.639> are<00:34:30.000> not<00:34:30.240> just<00:34:30.599> you

34:31 contractual obligations are not just you contractual obligations are not just you know<00:34:31.580> based<00:34:32.580> on<00:34:33.020> labor<00:34:34.020> negotiations<00:34:34.500> and know based on labor negotiations and know based on labor negotiations and Union<00:34:35.099> contracts<00:34:35.760> they're<00:34:36.000> also<00:34:36.359> based<00:34:36.720> on Union contracts they’re also based on Union contracts they’re also based on changes<00:34:37.560> in<00:34:37.679> special<00:34:37.919> education<00:34:38.399> so<00:34:38.820> a<00:34:39.240> budget changes in special education so a budget changes in special education so a budget that<00:34:39.780> captures<00:34:40.200> a<00:34:41.159> level<00:34:41.399> Services<00:34:41.940> a<00:34:42.419> true that captures a level Services a true that captures a level Services a true level<00:34:42.780> Services<00:34:43.139> budget<00:34:43.879> adjusted<00:34:44.879> adjusting level Services budget adjusted adjusting level Services budget adjusted adjusting all<00:34:45.780> line<00:34:46.020> items<00:34:46.500> for<00:34:46.919> that all line items for that all line items for that um and<00:34:48.480> then<00:34:48.599> a<00:34:48.780> second<00:34:48.899> budget<00:34:49.320> that<00:34:49.679> maybe um and then a second budget that maybe um and then a second budget that maybe has<00:34:50.339> some<00:34:50.580> of<00:34:50.700> the<00:34:50.760> other<00:34:50.879> things<00:34:51.119> that<00:34:51.480> I has some of the other things that I has some of the other things that I don’t<00:34:51.780> know<00:34:51.839> what<00:34:52.020> you<00:34:52.139> plan<00:34:52.320> on<00:34:52.500> including don’t know what you plan on including don’t know what you plan on including this<00:34:53.099> year<00:34:53.280> but<00:34:53.580> just<00:34:54.119> to<00:34:54.300> be<00:34:54.480> very<00:34:54.720> clear<00:34:54.960> what this year but just to be very clear what this year but just to be very clear what we’re<00:34:55.440> looking<00:34:55.679> at<00:34:55.980> as<00:34:56.520> we<00:34:56.700> approach<00:34:57.060> a<00:34:57.300> very we’re looking at as we approach a very we’re looking at as we approach a very challenging<00:34:57.900> year<00:34:58.140> for<00:34:58.440> the<00:34:58.560> entire<00:34:58.859> town challenging year for the entire town challenging year for the entire town um<00:35:00.000> and<00:35:00.300> you<00:35:00.480> know<00:35:00.599> free<00:35:00.839> cash<00:35:01.020> issues<00:35:01.440> and<00:35:01.560> web um and you know free cash issues and web um and you know free cash issues and web apps apps apps oh<00:35:04.140> Cam<00:35:04.440> if<00:35:04.619> you<00:35:04.740> have<00:35:04.800> anything<00:35:04.920> to<00:35:05.160> add

35:09 no thanks Alec I think that’s I think no thanks Alec I think that’s I think that’s<00:35:10.140> great<00:35:10.380> to<00:35:10.619> have<00:35:10.740> that<00:35:10.980> tied<00:35:11.220> up<00:35:11.400> a that’s great to have that tied up a that’s great to have that tied up a breakout<00:35:11.760> so<00:35:11.940> it's<00:35:12.119> really<00:35:12.240> clear<00:35:12.420> what<00:35:12.780> that breakout so it’s really clear what that breakout so it’s really clear what that would<00:35:13.140> be<00:35:13.260> for<00:35:13.619> current<00:35:14.220> Services<00:35:14.520> as<00:35:14.880> you would be for current Services as you would be for current Services as you define<00:35:15.240> them define them define them um<00:35:16.440> one<00:35:17.160> other<00:35:17.339> one<00:35:17.940> other<00:35:18.060> question<00:35:18.300> I<00:35:18.540> have um one other one other question I have um one other one other question I have or<00:35:18.900> I<00:35:19.200> guess<00:35:19.320> request<00:35:19.680> question<00:35:20.339> is or I guess request question is or I guess request question is um<00:35:21.800> enrollment<00:35:22.800> projections<00:35:23.460> and<00:35:23.640> enrollment um enrollment projections and enrollment um enrollment projections and enrollment history<00:35:24.240> I<00:35:24.599> think<00:35:24.720> would<00:35:24.839> be<00:35:24.960> a<00:35:25.079> really history I think would be a really history I think would be a really interesting<00:35:25.740> uh<00:35:26.700> thing<00:35:26.940> for<00:35:27.119> us<00:35:27.240> to<00:35:27.420> see interesting uh thing for us to see interesting uh thing for us to see because because because um<00:35:29.099> it's<00:35:29.400> obviously<00:35:29.760> a<00:35:29.880> topic<00:35:30.300> of um it’s obviously a topic of um it’s obviously a topic of conversation<00:35:30.720> and<00:35:31.020> obviously<00:35:31.619> at<00:35:31.800> some<00:35:31.980> point conversation and obviously at some point conversation and obviously at some point it<00:35:32.339> does<00:35:32.520> become<00:35:32.820> relevant<00:35:33.240> to<00:35:33.420> your it does become relevant to your it does become relevant to your financial<00:35:33.900> planning<00:35:34.440> your<00:35:34.920> budget<00:35:35.160> planning financial planning your budget planning financial planning your budget planning you<00:35:35.700> know<00:35:35.760> and<00:35:35.880> I<00:35:36.060> understand<00:35:36.119> a<00:35:36.660> one<00:35:37.020> or<00:35:37.140> two you know and I understand a one or two you know and I understand a one or two percent<00:35:37.380> drop<00:35:37.800> doesn't<00:35:38.400> change<00:35:38.760> the<00:35:38.940> number percent drop doesn’t change the number percent drop doesn’t change the number of<00:35:39.180> teachers<00:35:39.599> uh<00:35:40.440> you<00:35:40.619> have<00:35:40.859> it<00:35:41.040> depends<00:35:41.339> how of teachers uh you have it depends how of teachers uh you have it depends how the<00:35:41.640> kids<00:35:41.760> are<00:35:41.880> distributed<00:35:42.300> but<00:35:42.839> when<00:35:43.020> you the kids are distributed but when you the kids are distributed but when you get<00:35:43.200> to<00:35:43.320> a<00:35:43.500> certain<00:35:43.680> percentage<00:35:44.099> and get to a certain percentage and get to a certain percentage and depending<00:35:44.640> on<00:35:44.760> how<00:35:45.060> it's<00:35:45.240> you<00:35:45.660> know<00:35:45.720> where<00:35:45.900> it depending on how it’s you know where it depending on how it’s you know where it is<00:35:46.200> there<00:35:46.619> are<00:35:46.800> there<00:35:47.099> are<00:35:47.280> impacts<00:35:47.700> on<00:35:47.820> your is there are there are impacts on your is there are there are impacts on your budget<00:35:48.180> so<00:35:48.540> and<00:35:49.200> I<00:35:49.440> know<00:35:49.560> yet<00:35:49.740> an<00:35:49.920> uptick<00:35:50.280> uh budget so and I know yet an uptick uh budget so and I know yet an uptick uh this<00:35:51.119> year<00:35:51.300> I<00:35:52.020> don't<00:35:52.079> know<00:35:52.200> if<00:35:52.320> that's<00:35:52.500> related this year I don’t know if that’s related this year I don’t know if that’s related to<00:35:53.160> returning<00:35:53.640> students<00:35:54.060> from<00:35:54.420> uh

35:55 to returning students from uh to returning students from uh Independent<00:35:55.680> Schools<00:35:56.040> who<00:35:56.220> left<00:35:56.339> to<00:35:56.579> go<00:35:56.700> to<00:35:56.820> a Independent Schools who left to go to a Independent Schools who left to go to a in-person<00:35:57.780> instructions<00:35:58.619> I<00:35:58.859> know<00:35:58.980> that's in-person instructions I know that’s in-person instructions I know that’s happening<00:35:59.460> in<00:35:59.640> other<00:36:00.119> towns<00:36:00.599> but<00:36:01.260> so<00:36:01.680> looking happening in other towns but so looking happening in other towns but so looking back<00:36:02.160> and<00:36:02.280> looking<00:36:02.460> forward<00:36:02.700> and<00:36:03.060> how<00:36:03.240> that back and looking forward and how that back and looking forward and how that impacts<00:36:03.780> your<00:36:03.900> your<00:36:04.380> financial<00:36:04.619> planning<00:36:05.099> I impacts your your financial planning I impacts your your financial planning I think<00:36:05.339> would<00:36:05.520> be<00:36:05.640> really<00:36:05.820> helpful<00:36:06.180> good<00:36:07.140> for think would be really helpful good for think would be really helpful good for us<00:36:07.380> to<00:36:07.500> know<00:36:07.740> good<00:36:08.220> for<00:36:08.339> us<00:36:08.460> to<00:36:08.579> know<00:36:08.760> what us to know good for us to know what us to know good for us to know what you’re<00:36:09.240> thinking<00:36:09.540> about<00:36:09.660> as<00:36:10.020> you<00:36:10.260> see<00:36:10.560> the you’re thinking about as you see the you’re thinking about as you see the future<00:36:11.280> and<00:36:11.700> and<00:36:11.880> you<00:36:12.300> know<00:36:12.359> how<00:36:12.540> much<00:36:12.720> in<00:36:12.900> the future and and you know how much in the future and and you know how much in the future<00:36:13.140> you're<00:36:13.500> comfortable future you’re comfortable future you’re comfortable um<00:36:15.000> projecting<00:36:15.720> obviously<00:36:16.079> you've<00:36:16.380> got um projecting obviously you’ve got um projecting obviously you’ve got kindergarten<00:36:17.579> counts<00:36:17.940> you<00:36:18.060> can<00:36:18.119> project kindergarten counts you can project kindergarten counts you can project ahead<00:36:18.720> to<00:36:18.900> high<00:36:19.020> school<00:36:19.140> but<00:36:19.440> what<00:36:19.920> you're ahead to high school but what you’re ahead to high school but what you’re seeing<00:36:20.220> how<00:36:20.460> you<00:36:20.579> how<00:36:20.820> you<00:36:21.000> project<00:36:21.180> even<00:36:21.599> uh seeing how you how you project even uh seeing how you how you project even uh kindergarten<00:36:22.440> enrollments<00:36:22.980> in<00:36:23.040> five<00:36:23.220> years kindergarten enrollments in five years kindergarten enrollments in five years what<00:36:23.640> do<00:36:23.760> you<00:36:23.820> look<00:36:23.940> at<00:36:24.119> what<00:36:24.420> you<00:36:24.660> know<00:36:24.720> birth what do you look at what you know birth what do you look at what you know birth rates<00:36:25.140> move-in<00:36:25.500> rates<00:36:25.740> whatever<00:36:25.920> your<00:36:26.220> way<00:36:26.880> of rates move-in rates whatever your way of rates move-in rates whatever your way of assessing<00:36:27.420> that<00:36:27.599> I<00:36:27.720> think<00:36:27.780> that<00:36:27.900> would<00:36:28.079> be<00:36:28.140> a assessing that I think that would be a assessing that I think that would be a very<00:36:28.380> healthy<00:36:28.740> uh very healthy uh very healthy uh healthy<00:36:30.240> topic<00:36:30.540> for<00:36:30.720> us<00:36:30.839> to<00:36:30.960> get<00:36:31.079> a<00:36:31.260> little healthy topic for us to get a little healthy topic for us to get a little deeper<00:36:31.740> into deeper into deeper into um<00:36:33.839> and<00:36:34.200> I<00:36:34.320> say<00:36:34.500> this<00:36:34.680> a<00:36:34.859> little<00:36:34.980> a<00:36:35.940> little<00:36:36.359> bit um and I say this a little a little bit um and I say this a little a little bit tongue-in-cheek<00:36:37.740> I<00:36:38.400> I<00:36:38.760> where<00:36:39.599> they<00:36:39.780> said<00:36:39.960> that tongue-in-cheek I I where they said that tongue-in-cheek I I where they said that the<00:36:40.320> enrollments<00:36:40.800> have<00:36:40.920> been<00:36:41.160> coming<00:36:41.339> down

36:41 the enrollments have been coming down the enrollments have been coming down I’m<00:36:41.880> the<00:36:42.060> one<00:36:42.180> anomaly<00:36:42.720> in<00:36:42.900> time<00:36:43.079> town<00:36:43.380> that I’m the one anomaly in time town that I’m the one anomaly in time town that you<00:36:43.800> can't<00:36:43.980> Bank<00:36:44.280> on<00:36:44.640> for<00:36:44.820> that you can’t Bank on for that you can’t Bank on for that um<00:36:45.900> yeah<00:36:46.380> I<00:36:46.619> have<00:36:46.740> six<00:36:46.920> kids<00:36:47.160> and<00:36:47.520> definitely um yeah I have six kids and definitely um yeah I have six kids and definitely not<00:36:48.540> factoring<00:36:49.020> into<00:36:49.200> the<00:36:49.440> enrollment<00:36:49.800> it's not factoring into the enrollment it’s not factoring into the enrollment it’s going<00:36:50.220> down<00:36:50.400> one<00:36:51.000> interesting<00:36:51.359> thing<00:36:51.599> we<00:36:51.960> did going down one interesting thing we did going down one interesting thing we did have<00:36:52.260> our<00:36:52.380> enrollment<00:36:52.800> go<00:36:53.099> go<00:36:53.339> up<00:36:53.520> this<00:36:53.760> year have our enrollment go go up this year have our enrollment go go up this year but<00:36:54.540> we<00:36:54.780> opened<00:36:55.200> the<00:36:55.380> brown<00:36:55.680> school<00:36:56.099> with but we opened the brown school with but we opened the brown school with um<00:36:57.780> right<00:36:57.900> it<00:36:58.260> was<00:36:58.380> built<00:36:58.680> for<00:36:58.800> 450<00:36:59.400> students um right it was built for 450 students um right it was built for 450 students yeah<00:37:00.359> and<00:37:00.960> we<00:37:01.320> currently<00:37:01.740> our<00:37:02.220> first<00:37:02.400> full yeah and we currently our first full yeah and we currently our first full year<00:37:02.760> in<00:37:02.940> the<00:37:03.060> school<00:37:03.180> have<00:37:03.680> 453<00:37:04.680> as<00:37:05.099> of<00:37:05.280> last year in the school have 453 as of last year in the school have 453 as of last week<00:37:05.820> I<00:37:06.119> think<00:37:06.240> so<00:37:07.200> some<00:37:07.619> of<00:37:07.800> that<00:37:07.920> and<00:37:08.160> those week I think so some of that and those week I think so some of that and those were<00:37:08.760> those<00:37:09.060> projections<00:37:09.599> were<00:37:09.839> pre-covered were those projections were pre-covered were those projections were pre-covered projections<00:37:11.160> so<00:37:11.760> I<00:37:12.119> just<00:37:12.240> want<00:37:12.420> to<00:37:12.599> as<00:37:12.780> it projections so I just want to as it projections so I just want to as it pertains<00:37:13.440> to<00:37:14.060> outplacements<00:37:15.060> coming<00:37:15.300> back<00:37:15.480> or pertains to outplacements coming back or pertains to outplacements coming back or not<00:37:15.960> out<00:37:16.079> placements<00:37:16.619> opting<00:37:17.099> out<00:37:17.640> um<00:37:17.700> because not out placements opting out um because not out placements opting out um because of<00:37:18.060> covet<00:37:18.540> to<00:37:19.079> the<00:37:19.200> private<00:37:19.440> school<00:37:19.560> which<00:37:19.740> we of covet to the private school which we of covet to the private school which we did<00:37:20.099> see<00:37:20.280> some<00:37:20.520> of<00:37:21.180> um<00:37:21.300> coming<00:37:21.540> back<00:37:21.780> in<00:37:22.020> this did see some of um coming back in this did see some of um coming back in this is<00:37:22.680> an<00:37:22.920> access<00:37:23.099> to<00:37:23.579> that is an access to that is an access to that um<00:37:24.780> and<00:37:25.079> I<00:37:25.260> think um and I think um and I think you<00:37:26.880> know<00:37:27.060> just<00:37:27.420> anecdotally<00:37:27.960> what<00:37:28.260> I'm

37:28 you know just anecdotally what I’m you know just anecdotally what I’m seeing<00:37:28.680> is<00:37:28.859> before<00:37:29.160> you<00:37:29.460> used<00:37:29.640> to<00:37:29.820> see<00:37:29.940> a<00:37:30.119> lot seeing is before you used to see a lot seeing is before you used to see a lot of<00:37:30.300> movement<00:37:30.540> within<00:37:30.900> Marblehead<00:37:31.560> of<00:37:32.220> the of movement within Marblehead of the of movement within Marblehead of the home<00:37:32.579> value home value home value um<00:37:33.480> home<00:37:34.260> home<00:37:34.320> purchases<00:37:35.160> we're<00:37:36.060> seeing<00:37:36.240> you um home home purchases we’re seeing you um home home purchases we’re seeing you know<00:37:36.960> just<00:37:37.320> me<00:37:37.800> talking<00:37:38.040> to<00:37:38.280> the<00:37:38.460> peers<00:37:38.820> of<00:37:39.599> my know just me talking to the peers of my know just me talking to the peers of my my<00:37:40.140> children my children my children um<00:37:41.579> a<00:37:41.820> lot<00:37:41.880> of<00:37:42.000> those<00:37:42.119> kindergarten<00:37:42.780> kids<00:37:42.960> are um a lot of those kindergarten kids are um a lot of those kindergarten kids are coming<00:37:43.440> from<00:37:44.420> Charlestown<00:37:45.420> the<00:37:45.780> south<00:37:46.020> end coming from Charlestown the south end coming from Charlestown the south end things<00:37:46.560> like<00:37:46.740> that<00:37:46.859> through<00:37:47.099> moving<00:37:47.400> into things like that through moving into things like that through moving into town<00:37:48.060> which<00:37:48.839> is<00:37:49.020> something<00:37:49.200> we<00:37:49.619> haven't<00:37:49.800> seen town which is something we haven’t seen town which is something we haven’t seen a<00:37:50.520> lot<00:37:50.579> of<00:37:50.760> it<00:37:50.940> in<00:37:51.780> previous<00:37:51.960> years<00:37:52.500> the<00:37:53.280> last a lot of it in previous years the last a lot of it in previous years the last two<00:37:53.700> years<00:37:53.880> I<00:37:54.119> think<00:37:54.240> we'd<00:37:54.480> see<00:37:54.599> a<00:37:54.780> lot<00:37:54.900> more<00:37:55.079> in two years I think we’d see a lot more in two years I think we’d see a lot more in about<00:37:55.980> three<00:37:56.460> weeks<00:37:56.760> before<00:37:56.940> we<00:37:57.359> started<00:37:57.720> the about three weeks before we started the about three weeks before we started the school<00:37:58.140> year<00:37:58.320> this<00:37:58.560> year<00:37:58.680> we<00:37:58.980> had<00:37:59.160> to<00:37:59.339> add<00:37:59.579> an school year this year we had to add an school year this year we had to add an extra<00:38:00.000> kindergarten<00:38:00.960> class<00:38:01.560> level<00:38:01.859> because extra kindergarten class level because extra kindergarten class level because we<00:38:03.300> were<00:38:03.720> we<00:38:04.200> had<00:38:04.440> such<00:38:04.619> an<00:38:04.800> influx<00:38:05.220> of<00:38:05.460> kids we were we had such an influx of kids we were we had such an influx of kids coming<00:38:05.940> into<00:38:06.119> District<00:38:06.420> in<00:38:06.720> the<00:38:06.839> kindergarten coming into District in the kindergarten coming into District in the kindergarten level<00:38:07.560> we<00:38:08.339> didn't<00:38:08.520> have<00:38:08.760> enough level we didn’t have enough level we didn’t have enough um<00:38:09.839> room<00:38:10.380> in<00:38:10.619> our<00:38:10.800> our<00:38:11.040> current<00:38:11.339> classes<00:38:11.880> Pat

38:16 oh oh hi<00:38:17.820> um<00:38:17.880> so<00:38:18.240> I<00:38:18.660> just<00:38:18.720> wanted<00:38:18.960> to<00:38:19.140> ask<00:38:19.260> a hi um so I just wanted to ask a hi um so I just wanted to ask a clarifying<00:38:20.040> question<00:38:20.280> and<00:38:20.579> it<00:38:20.820> might<00:38:21.500> might clarifying question and it might might clarifying question and it might might involve<00:38:22.980> Thatcher<00:38:23.520> uh<00:38:24.060> giving<00:38:24.300> a<00:38:24.540> response involve Thatcher uh giving a response involve Thatcher uh giving a response but but but um we<00:38:26.880> did um we did um we did um<00:38:27.660> we<00:38:28.380> we<00:38:28.500> have<00:38:28.740> the<00:38:29.040> town<00:38:29.160> has<00:38:29.460> moved<00:38:29.880> forward um we we have the town has moved forward um we we have the town has moved forward with<00:38:30.960> looking<00:38:31.560> into<00:38:31.859> using<00:38:32.400> and<00:38:32.579> this<00:38:32.760> gets with looking into using and this gets with looking into using and this gets back<00:38:33.180> to<00:38:33.420> the<00:38:33.960> um back to the um back to the um soft<00:38:36.119> right<00:38:36.420> uh<00:38:37.200> software soft right uh software soft right uh software where<00:38:39.380> I'll<00:38:40.380> put<00:38:40.680> you<00:38:40.800> on<00:38:40.920> the<00:38:41.040> spot<00:38:41.220> Thatcher where I’ll put you on the spot Thatcher where I’ll put you on the spot Thatcher where<00:38:42.000> are<00:38:42.180> we<00:38:42.300> with<00:38:42.599> being<00:38:43.200> able<00:38:43.560> to where are we with being able to where are we with being able to implement<00:38:44.760> the implement the implement the um<00:38:46.440> the<00:38:47.220> upgraded<00:38:47.760> software<00:38:48.359> system<00:38:48.900> clear um the upgraded software system clear um the upgraded software system clear government<00:38:49.800> and<00:38:50.099> clear<00:38:50.700> the<00:38:51.000> clear<00:38:51.240> yes<00:38:51.540> the government and clear the clear yes the government and clear the clear yes the cleargov.com<00:38:52.859> uh cleargov.com uh cleargov.com uh implementation<00:38:55.579> in<00:38:56.579> terms<00:38:57.240> of<00:38:57.359> the<00:38:57.660> budget<00:38:57.960> in implementation in terms of the budget in implementation in terms of the budget in general<00:38:58.500> across<00:38:59.220> the<00:38:59.339> town<00:38:59.520> and<00:39:00.000> then<00:39:00.180> of general across the town and then of general across the town and then of course<00:39:00.540> specifically<00:39:01.200> as<00:39:01.980> a<00:39:02.160> to<00:39:02.280> as<00:39:02.520> a<00:39:02.700> better

39:02 course specifically as a to as a better course specifically as a to as a better tool<00:39:03.180> for<00:39:03.359> Michelle<00:39:03.540> to<00:39:03.960> use tool for Michelle to use tool for Michelle to use thanks thanks thanks sure sure sure um<00:39:07.859> so<00:39:08.700> we<00:39:08.940> we<00:39:09.780> um um so we we um um so we we um the<00:39:10.560> the<00:39:10.920> clear<00:39:11.700> graph<00:39:12.060> is<00:39:12.180> turned<00:39:12.480> on the the clear graph is turned on the the clear graph is turned on um<00:39:14.040> I've<00:39:14.339> set<00:39:14.579> up<00:39:14.700> just<00:39:14.940> a<00:39:15.119> few<00:39:15.240> of<00:39:15.420> us<00:39:15.540> as<00:39:15.780> users um I’ve set up just a few of us as users um I’ve set up just a few of us as users in<00:39:16.380> the<00:39:16.560> kind<00:39:16.740> of<00:39:16.859> this<00:39:17.040> point<00:39:17.280> because in the kind of this point because in the kind of this point because um well<00:39:19.079> the<00:39:20.460> um<00:39:20.460> our<00:39:21.180> accountant<00:39:21.599> has<00:39:21.960> sent um well the um our accountant has sent um well the um our accountant has sent uh<00:39:23.160> five<00:39:23.460> years<00:39:23.640> of<00:39:23.940> history<00:39:24.119> of<00:39:25.079> budget<00:39:25.500> data uh five years of history of budget data uh five years of history of budget data that’s<00:39:26.820> being<00:39:27.180> uploaded<00:39:27.720> and<00:39:28.140> based<00:39:28.500> on<00:39:28.560> the that’s being uploaded and based on the that’s being uploaded and based on the email<00:39:28.859> traffic<00:39:29.220> back<00:39:29.700> and<00:39:29.880> forth email traffic back and forth email traffic back and forth um<00:39:31.380> because<00:39:31.619> anytime<00:39:32.040> you're<00:39:32.220> transferring um because anytime you’re transferring um because anytime you’re transferring data<00:39:33.180> there's<00:39:33.359> always<00:39:33.599> anomalies<00:39:34.500> that<00:39:34.859> you data there’s always anomalies that you data there’s always anomalies that you know know know pop-up pop-up pop-up um<00:39:37.619> there<00:39:37.920> weren't<00:39:38.160> a<00:39:38.339> lot<00:39:38.460> and<00:39:38.760> they<00:39:38.940> seemed um there weren’t a lot and they seemed um there weren’t a lot and they seemed to<00:39:39.300> have<00:39:39.359> been<00:39:39.480> clarified<00:39:39.980> so<00:39:40.980> I<00:39:41.280> haven't to have been clarified so I haven’t to have been clarified so I haven’t checked<00:39:41.880> in checked in checked in um um um today<00:39:44.040> but<00:39:44.820> basically<00:39:45.480> soft<00:39:46.020> the<00:39:46.380> the<00:39:46.680> clear today but basically soft the the clear today but basically soft the the clear gut<00:39:47.700> folks<00:39:48.480> are<00:39:49.460> uploading<00:39:50.460> the<00:39:50.640> data<00:39:51.000> they

39:51 gut folks are uploading the data they gut folks are uploading the data they they<00:39:51.359> have<00:39:51.780> to<00:39:52.500> um<00:39:52.500> you<00:39:53.099> know<00:39:53.220> receive<00:39:53.579> the they have to um you know receive the they have to um you know receive the files<00:39:54.000> from<00:39:54.180> us<00:39:54.420> and<00:39:55.079> they<00:39:55.260> have<00:39:55.380> to<00:39:55.500> normalize files from us and they have to normalize files from us and they have to normalize it<00:39:56.339> for<00:39:56.579> their<00:39:56.820> system<00:39:57.060> so<00:39:57.660> I<00:39:58.020> think<00:39:58.140> it's<00:39:58.320> a it for their system so I think it’s a it for their system so I think it’s a couple<00:39:58.560> week<00:39:58.800> process<00:39:59.280> so<00:40:00.320> it's<00:40:01.320> coming couple week process so it’s coming couple week process so it’s coming um<00:40:02.940> I<00:40:03.540> hope<00:40:03.660> to<00:40:03.900> add<00:40:04.200> more<00:40:04.680> uh<00:40:05.400> department um I hope to add more uh department um I hope to add more uh department heads<00:40:06.119> as<00:40:06.240> users<00:40:06.720> once<00:40:07.200> I<00:40:07.320> have<00:40:07.500> the heads as users once I have the heads as users once I have the department<00:40:07.859> set<00:40:08.280> up<00:40:08.460> I've<00:40:09.180> sent<00:40:09.359> Michelle<00:40:09.660> I department set up I’ve sent Michelle I department set up I’ve sent Michelle I think<00:40:10.260> I<00:40:10.500> don't<00:40:10.619> know<00:40:10.680> if<00:40:10.859> you<00:40:11.040> if<00:40:11.339> you've<00:40:11.520> had think I don’t know if you if you’ve had think I don’t know if you if you’ve had a<00:40:11.820> chance<00:40:11.940> yet<00:40:12.260> uh<00:40:13.579> her<00:40:14.579> user<00:40:14.940> account<00:40:15.060> so a chance yet uh her user account so a chance yet uh her user account so there’s<00:40:15.660> a<00:40:15.780> few<00:40:15.900> of<00:40:16.079> us<00:40:16.140> with<00:40:16.380> it<00:40:16.560> it<00:40:17.220> also there’s a few of us with it it also there’s a few of us with it it also comes<00:40:17.760> with<00:40:17.940> with<00:40:18.359> training<00:40:18.780> modules<00:40:19.200> and<00:40:19.740> I comes with with training modules and I comes with with training modules and I uh<00:40:20.520> not<00:40:20.700> this<00:40:20.820> week<00:40:21.000> last<00:40:21.300> week<00:40:21.480> and<00:40:21.720> sat<00:40:21.900> down uh not this week last week and sat down uh not this week last week and sat down and<00:40:22.200> went<00:40:22.380> through<00:40:22.500> all<00:40:22.680> the<00:40:22.859> training and went through all the training and went through all the training modules<00:40:23.520> the<00:40:24.420> software<00:40:24.839> is<00:40:25.320> very<00:40:25.740> user modules the software is very user modules the software is very user friendly<00:40:26.940> it<00:40:27.420> is<00:40:27.599> it<00:40:28.140> you<00:40:28.380> don't<00:40:28.440> need<00:40:28.560> to<00:40:28.740> be<00:40:28.800> a friendly it is it you don’t need to be a friendly it is it you don’t need to be a rocket<00:40:29.339> scientist<00:40:29.700> to<00:40:30.000> figure<00:40:30.119> out<00:40:30.300> how<00:40:30.420> to rocket scientist to figure out how to rocket scientist to figure out how to use<00:40:30.660> it<00:40:30.839> which<00:40:31.079> is<00:40:31.260> really<00:40:31.619> really<00:40:32.099> good<00:40:32.460> news use it which is really really good news use it which is really really good news um um um and<00:40:34.920> on<00:40:35.099> the<00:40:35.280> town<00:40:35.460> side

40:36 and on the town side and on the town side so<00:40:37.380> so<00:40:37.500> we<00:40:37.859> are<00:40:37.980> in<00:40:38.160> a<00:40:38.339> foot<00:40:38.520> race<00:40:38.760> a<00:40:39.720> time so so we are in a foot race a time so so we are in a foot race a time between<00:40:40.980> having<00:40:41.579> the<00:40:42.180> clear<00:40:42.359> golf<00:40:42.920> you<00:40:43.920> know between having the clear golf you know between having the clear golf you know all<00:40:44.400> the<00:40:44.520> data<00:40:44.880> fully<00:40:45.180> uploaded<00:40:45.980> and all the data fully uploaded and all the data fully uploaded and department<00:40:47.220> heads<00:40:47.820> and<00:40:47.940> and<00:40:48.240> this<00:40:48.960> staff department heads and and this staff department heads and and this staff um um um comfortable<00:40:52.260> with<00:40:52.500> it<00:40:52.680> and<00:40:52.920> starting<00:40:53.220> to<00:40:53.880> re comfortable with it and starting to re comfortable with it and starting to re uh<00:40:54.540> rely<00:40:54.900> on<00:40:55.079> that<00:40:55.380> as<00:40:55.680> the<00:40:55.920> source<00:40:56.220> for<00:40:56.400> the uh rely on that as the source for the uh rely on that as the source for the budgeting<00:40:56.940> so<00:40:57.300> in<00:40:57.420> the<00:40:57.599> meantime<00:40:57.960> we're<00:40:58.680> doing budgeting so in the meantime we’re doing budgeting so in the meantime we’re doing the<00:40:59.040> good<00:40:59.160> old-fashioned<00:40:59.880> Excel<00:41:00.720> spreadsheet the good old-fashioned Excel spreadsheet the good old-fashioned Excel spreadsheet and<00:41:02.760> despite<00:41:03.180> the<00:41:03.540> the<00:41:03.720> time<00:41:04.020> frame<00:41:04.380> that<00:41:04.680> we and despite the the time frame that we and despite the the time frame that we had<00:41:05.040> discussed<00:41:05.579> I<00:41:06.119> don't<00:41:06.180> know<00:41:06.300> how<00:41:06.480> many had discussed I don’t know how many had discussed I don’t know how many weeks<00:41:06.900> ago weeks ago weeks ago um<00:41:08.400> I<00:41:08.579> think<00:41:08.760> I<00:41:08.940> put<00:41:09.119> in<00:41:09.359> I<00:41:10.200> I've<00:41:10.500> at<00:41:10.800> least<00:41:10.920> put um I think I put in I I’ve at least put um I think I put in I I’ve at least put in<00:41:11.480> somewhere<00:41:12.480> between<00:41:12.720> 20<00:41:13.079> and<00:41:13.320> 30<00:41:13.560> hours<00:41:13.859> in in somewhere between 20 and 30 hours in in somewhere between 20 and 30 hours in the<00:41:14.339> last<00:41:14.460> couple<00:41:14.640> weeks<00:41:15.260> of<00:41:16.260> trying<00:41:16.619> to the last couple weeks of trying to the last couple weeks of trying to extract<00:41:17.339> four<00:41:17.760> years<00:41:17.940> of<00:41:18.240> data<00:41:19.020> out<00:41:19.560> of<00:41:19.680> the extract four years of data out of the extract four years of data out of the soft<00:41:19.980> right<00:41:20.280> and<00:41:21.240> clean<00:41:21.720> it<00:41:21.960> up

41:22 soft right and clean it up soft right and clean it up in<00:41:23.280> order<00:41:23.400> to<00:41:23.640> provide<00:41:23.940> our<00:41:24.119> department<00:41:24.359> heads in order to provide our department heads in order to provide our department heads with<00:41:25.560> the<00:41:25.740> reports<00:41:26.160> you<00:41:26.400> know<00:41:26.520> the<00:41:26.700> historical with the reports you know the historical with the reports you know the historical reports<00:41:27.720> to<00:41:28.140> start reports to start reports to start using<00:41:29.579> the<00:41:29.760> spreadsheets<00:41:30.240> to<00:41:30.480> load<00:41:30.720> their using the spreadsheets to load their using the spreadsheets to load their budget<00:41:31.200> request budget request budget request um<00:41:33.180> it<00:41:33.900> it<00:41:34.020> is<00:41:34.800> excruciating um it it is excruciating um it it is excruciating um<00:41:37.020> I<00:41:37.500> literally<00:41:37.859> I've<00:41:38.099> been<00:41:38.220> working<00:41:38.400> nights um I literally I’ve been working nights um I literally I’ve been working nights in<00:41:39.839> the<00:41:40.079> entire<00:41:40.200> weekends in the entire weekends in the entire weekends doing<00:41:42.180> spreadsheets<00:41:42.900> I<00:41:43.619> one<00:41:43.980> of<00:41:44.099> my<00:41:44.220> eyes doing spreadsheets I one of my eyes doing spreadsheets I one of my eyes started<00:41:44.820> bleeding<00:41:45.500> I<00:41:46.500> swear<00:41:46.800> I<00:41:47.640> was<00:41:47.820> my<00:41:48.060> eyes started bleeding I swear I was my eyes started bleeding I swear I was my eyes are<00:41:48.420> so<00:41:48.540> dry<00:41:48.720> looking<00:41:49.020> at<00:41:49.260> the<00:41:49.320> screen<00:41:49.500> I<00:41:49.740> think are so dry looking at the screen I think are so dry looking at the screen I think I<00:41:49.980> rubbed<00:41:50.280> it<00:41:50.400> blew<00:41:51.000> a<00:41:51.060> little<00:41:51.359> blood<00:41:51.599> vessel I rubbed it blew a little blood vessel I rubbed it blew a little blood vessel in<00:41:52.140> my<00:41:52.260> eye<00:41:52.380> that<00:41:52.740> that<00:41:53.400> was<00:41:53.700> last<00:41:53.880> week<00:41:54.480> um in my eye that that was last week um in my eye that that was last week um but<00:41:56.099> we're<00:41:56.220> gonna<00:41:56.339> you<00:41:56.760> know<00:41:56.880> move<00:41:57.420> forward<00:41:57.660> in but we’re gonna you know move forward in but we’re gonna you know move forward in the<00:41:58.320> race<00:41:58.440> is<00:41:58.740> uh<00:41:59.280> the<00:41:59.520> department<00:41:59.640> has the race is uh the department has the race is uh the department has getting<00:42:00.480> the<00:42:00.660> stuff<00:42:00.839> on<00:42:01.020> spreadsheet<00:42:01.680> and getting the stuff on spreadsheet and getting the stuff on spreadsheet and then<00:42:02.160> sending<00:42:02.760> that<00:42:02.940> in<00:42:03.180> and<00:42:03.900> then<00:42:04.020> it<00:42:04.140> depends then sending that in and then it depends then sending that in and then it depends on<00:42:04.619> the<00:42:04.859> clear<00:42:05.040> Gob<00:42:05.520> timing<00:42:05.820> as<00:42:06.060> to<00:42:06.240> when on the clear Gob timing as to when on the clear Gob timing as to when everybody’s<00:42:07.020> ready<00:42:07.260> to<00:42:07.500> switch<00:42:07.980> over<00:42:08.280> over<00:42:08.579> to

42:08 everybody’s ready to switch over over to everybody’s ready to switch over over to that<00:42:09.119> so<00:42:09.420> it'll<00:42:09.599> be<00:42:09.720> I'm<00:42:10.200> gonna<00:42:10.320> guess<00:42:10.560> sitting that so it’ll be I’m gonna guess sitting that so it’ll be I’m gonna guess sitting here<00:42:11.099> right<00:42:11.280> now<00:42:11.460> and<00:42:12.000> it's<00:42:12.240> a<00:42:12.359> guess<00:42:12.740> sometime here right now and it’s a guess sometime here right now and it’s a guess sometime in<00:42:14.280> mid-January in mid-January in mid-January um<00:42:16.380> I<00:42:16.680> hope<00:42:16.859> to<00:42:17.099> be<00:42:17.540> just<00:42:18.540> using<00:42:18.900> the<00:42:19.200> click<00:42:19.560> of um I hope to be just using the click of um I hope to be just using the click of for<00:42:21.060> managing<00:42:21.599> the<00:42:21.780> data for managing the data for managing the data um that’s<00:42:23.820> just<00:42:24.180> my<00:42:24.420> best<00:42:24.540> guess<00:42:24.780> right<00:42:25.020> now um that’s just my best guess right now um that’s just my best guess right now but<00:42:25.980> it<00:42:26.160> will<00:42:26.400> provide<00:42:26.880> a<00:42:27.300> better<00:42:27.960> advantage but it will provide a better advantage but it will provide a better advantage to<00:42:29.220> uh to uh to uh for<00:42:30.720> all<00:42:30.839> of<00:42:30.960> us<00:42:31.079> trying<00:42:31.380> to<00:42:31.560> trying<00:42:31.980> to<00:42:32.099> manage for all of us trying to trying to manage for all of us trying to trying to manage this<00:42:32.700> process<00:42:33.000> yeah<00:42:33.660> and<00:42:34.079> we<00:42:34.740> recognized<00:42:35.460> when this process yeah and we recognized when this process yeah and we recognized when we<00:42:37.079> approved<00:42:37.440> the<00:42:37.560> funding<00:42:37.920> to<00:42:38.220> to<00:42:38.640> go<00:42:38.940> forward we approved the funding to to go forward we approved the funding to to go forward with<00:42:39.480> this<00:42:39.660> that<00:42:40.500> it<00:42:40.859> was<00:42:41.520> um with this that it was um with this that it was um clearly<00:42:43.500> going<00:42:43.980> to<00:42:44.099> be<00:42:44.220> a<00:42:44.400> transition<00:42:44.760> year clearly going to be a transition year clearly going to be a transition year um<00:42:46.200> yeah<00:42:46.380> I<00:42:46.500> know<00:42:46.680> how<00:42:46.800> I<00:42:47.040> know<00:42:47.160> how<00:42:47.400> much um yeah I know how I know how much um yeah I know how I know how much Michelle’s<00:42:48.540> been<00:42:49.020> struggling<00:42:49.500> with<00:42:50.160> this Michelle’s been struggling with this Michelle’s been struggling with this software<00:42:50.880> and<00:42:51.180> is<00:42:51.540> if<00:42:52.320> we<00:42:52.740> can<00:42:52.920> prioritize software and is if we can prioritize software and is if we can prioritize getting<00:42:54.540> it<00:42:54.780> to<00:42:54.960> Michelle<00:42:55.200> and<00:42:56.040> and<00:42:56.339> Michelle

42:56 getting it to Michelle and and Michelle getting it to Michelle and and Michelle I’m<00:42:57.300> sorry<00:42:57.540> if<00:42:57.780> you<00:42:57.900> have<00:42:58.020> to<00:42:58.079> do<00:42:58.200> a<00:42:58.380> lot<00:42:58.500> of I’m sorry if you have to do a lot of I’m sorry if you have to do a lot of tutorial<00:42:59.180> studies<00:43:00.180> but<00:43:00.420> you<00:43:01.020> know<00:43:01.140> I'm<00:43:01.500> just tutorial studies but you know I’m just tutorial studies but you know I’m just thinking<00:43:01.980> if<00:43:02.220> you<00:43:02.760> know<00:43:02.819> if<00:43:03.180> I'm<00:43:03.720> hopefully<00:43:04.140> it thinking if you know if I’m hopefully it thinking if you know if I’m hopefully it will<00:43:04.619> help<00:43:04.800> you<00:43:05.040> when<00:43:05.220> this<00:43:05.400> gets<00:43:05.700> back<00:43:05.880> to will help you when this gets back to will help you when this gets back to um Sarah’s<00:43:08.040> question<00:43:08.280> about<00:43:08.700> when<00:43:09.240> are<00:43:09.420> we um Sarah’s question about when are we um Sarah’s question about when are we ever<00:43:09.720> going<00:43:09.960> to<00:43:10.079> get<00:43:10.260> rid<00:43:10.440> of<00:43:10.619> soft<00:43:10.800> rights ever going to get rid of soft rights ever going to get rid of soft rights that<00:43:11.520> we've<00:43:12.000> so<00:43:12.420> we've<00:43:12.660> made<00:43:12.839> some<00:43:13.200> some that we’ve so we’ve made some some that we’ve so we’ve made some some um<00:43:15.060> inroads<00:43:15.839> into<00:43:16.020> that<00:43:16.260> and<00:43:16.619> it'll<00:43:16.980> only<00:43:17.160> get um inroads into that and it’ll only get um inroads into that and it’ll only get better<00:43:17.640> from<00:43:18.000> here<00:43:18.240> so<00:43:18.599> I<00:43:18.900> just<00:43:19.079> that<00:43:19.260> was<00:43:19.440> just better from here so I just that was just better from here so I just that was just a<00:43:19.740> comment<00:43:20.040> I<00:43:20.280> wanted<00:43:20.400> to<00:43:20.640> include<00:43:20.940> in<00:43:21.180> the a comment I wanted to include in the a comment I wanted to include in the discussion<00:43:21.780> now<00:43:22.560> my<00:43:22.920> understanding<00:43:23.460> is<00:43:23.640> this discussion now my understanding is this discussion now my understanding is this helps<00:43:24.180> the<00:43:24.359> gfoa<00:43:25.020> but<00:43:25.319> this<00:43:25.740> is<00:43:25.980> not<00:43:26.400> a helps the gfoa but this is not a helps the gfoa but this is not a substitute<00:43:27.540> in<00:43:27.660> a<00:43:27.839> way<00:43:28.020> for<00:43:28.440> soft<00:43:28.800> right substitute in a way for soft right substitute in a way for soft right no<00:43:30.960> so<00:43:31.440> so<00:43:32.220> let<00:43:32.579> me<00:43:32.760> fill<00:43:32.880> in<00:43:33.119> so<00:43:33.660> this<00:43:33.960> is<00:43:34.619> um no so so let me fill in so this is um no so so let me fill in so this is um this<00:43:35.400> software<00:43:35.819> sits<00:43:36.420> on<00:43:36.599> top<00:43:36.720> of<00:43:37.020> our<00:43:37.140> general this software sits on top of our general this software sits on top of our general ledger<00:43:37.920> software<00:43:38.700> it<00:43:39.660> and<00:43:40.020> it<00:43:40.200> talks<00:43:40.500> to<00:43:40.619> it<00:43:41.160> so

43:42 ledger software it and it talks to it so ledger software it and it talks to it so um<00:43:42.780> as<00:43:43.200> I<00:43:43.319> understand<00:43:43.500> it<00:43:43.859> and<00:43:44.160> we'll<00:43:44.460> the um as I understand it and we’ll the um as I understand it and we’ll the proof<00:43:45.060> will<00:43:45.119> be<00:43:45.300> in<00:43:45.359> the<00:43:45.540> pudding<00:43:45.780> when<00:43:45.960> we've proof will be in the pudding when we’ve proof will be in the pudding when we’ve got<00:43:46.319> our<00:43:46.500> data<00:43:46.800> loaded<00:43:47.099> we<00:43:47.280> start<00:43:47.460> actually got our data loaded we start actually got our data loaded we start actually using<00:43:48.180> it<00:43:48.359> but using it but using it but um it<00:43:51.060> will<00:43:51.420> update<00:43:52.380> with<00:43:52.859> our<00:43:53.099> general um it will update with our general um it will update with our general ledger<00:43:53.819> and<00:43:54.420> we<00:43:54.839> will<00:43:55.020> be<00:43:55.140> able<00:43:55.260> to<00:43:55.380> use<00:43:55.619> Clear ledger and we will be able to use Clear ledger and we will be able to use Clear gov<00:43:56.520> to<00:43:56.880> extract<00:43:57.300> information gov to extract information gov to extract information better<00:43:59.339> than<00:43:59.579> soft<00:43:59.819> right<00:44:00.119> can better than soft right can better than soft right can um<00:44:01.760> so<00:44:02.839> uh<00:44:03.839> I<00:44:04.140> think<00:44:04.200> we<00:44:04.560> will<00:44:04.680> be<00:44:04.800> in<00:44:04.920> a<00:44:05.040> better um so uh I think we will be in a better um so uh I think we will be in a better place<00:44:05.339> so<00:44:05.520> it's<00:44:05.700> not<00:44:05.880> just<00:44:06.060> you<00:44:06.359> know<00:44:06.420> the<00:44:06.599> gfoa place so it’s not just you know the gfoa place so it’s not just you know the gfoa output<00:44:07.560> it'll<00:44:08.400> actually<00:44:08.640> be<00:44:09.119> on<00:44:09.780> everything output it’ll actually be on everything output it’ll actually be on everything I’ve<00:44:10.260> seen<00:44:10.440> a<00:44:10.980> tool<00:44:11.339> that<00:44:11.579> department<00:44:11.819> heads I’ve seen a tool that department heads I’ve seen a tool that department heads and<00:44:12.480> others<00:44:12.780> can<00:44:13.020> use<00:44:13.260> on<00:44:13.560> an<00:44:13.740> ongoing<00:44:14.160> basis and others can use on an ongoing basis and others can use on an ongoing basis even<00:44:15.780> after<00:44:16.079> you<00:44:16.440> know<00:44:16.500> we<00:44:16.680> build<00:44:16.859> build<00:44:17.160> the even after you know we build build the even after you know we build build the budget budget budget um um um and<00:44:19.619> I<00:44:19.740> I've<00:44:19.920> been<00:44:20.099> saying<00:44:20.339> this<00:44:20.460> for<00:44:20.700> months and I I’ve been saying this for months and I I’ve been saying this for months as<00:44:21.660> far<00:44:21.780> as<00:44:21.900> the<00:44:22.079> order<00:44:22.260> so<00:44:22.680> budgeting as far as the order so budgeting as far as the order so budgeting software<00:44:23.940> first<00:44:24.240> that's<00:44:25.020> an<00:44:25.560> implementation software first that’s an implementation software first that’s an implementation uh<00:44:27.660> payroll<00:44:28.079> software<00:44:28.560> uh<00:44:29.880> um<00:44:30.000> as<00:44:30.240> soon<00:44:30.480> as<00:44:30.599> we

44:30 uh payroll software uh um as soon as we uh payroll software uh um as soon as we can can can get<00:44:31.980> over<00:44:32.160> the<00:44:32.339> hump<00:44:32.460> of<00:44:32.760> of<00:44:33.180> getting<00:44:33.900> this get over the hump of of getting this get over the hump of of getting this data<00:44:34.500> ready<00:44:34.619> uh<00:44:35.520> I<00:44:35.640> want<00:44:35.760> to<00:44:35.819> sit<00:44:35.940> down<00:44:36.060> with data ready uh I want to sit down with data ready uh I want to sit down with some<00:44:36.420> folks<00:44:36.660> and<00:44:36.780> look<00:44:36.900> at<00:44:37.020> payroll<00:44:37.440> software some folks and look at payroll software some folks and look at payroll software you<00:44:38.579> know<00:44:38.700> we're<00:44:39.000> we're<00:44:39.300> wrestling<00:44:39.720> with you know we’re we’re wrestling with you know we’re we’re wrestling with another<00:44:40.140> glitch another glitch another glitch because<00:44:41.940> we're<00:44:42.240> using<00:44:42.540> in-house<00:44:42.960> processes because we’re using in-house processes because we’re using in-house processes uh<00:44:44.819> uh<00:44:44.880> you<00:44:45.359> know<00:44:45.420> everybody<00:44:45.660> got<00:44:46.079> paid<00:44:46.260> this uh uh you know everybody got paid this uh uh you know everybody got paid this past<00:44:46.740> week<00:44:47.460> but<00:44:48.300> anybody<00:44:48.720> with<00:44:48.900> an<00:44:49.140> external past week but anybody with an external past week but anybody with an external email<00:44:49.800> which<00:44:50.160> as<00:44:50.400> I<00:44:50.579> understand<00:44:50.700> it<00:44:51.119> is email which as I understand it is email which as I understand it is everybody<00:44:51.599> on<00:44:51.960> the<00:44:52.079> school<00:44:52.200> side<00:44:52.440> didn't<00:44:52.859> get everybody on the school side didn’t get everybody on the school side didn’t get their<00:44:53.280> pay<00:44:53.460> stops their pay stops their pay stops something<00:44:55.020> happened<00:44:55.319> on<00:44:55.680> the<00:44:55.800> email<00:44:55.980> exchange something happened on the email exchange something happened on the email exchange so<00:44:57.060> uh<00:44:57.960> I<00:44:58.140> I<00:44:58.200> I'd<00:44:58.800> rather<00:44:59.099> that<00:44:59.460> they<00:44:59.819> not<00:45:00.119> get so uh I I I’d rather that they not get so uh I I I’d rather that they not get pay<00:45:00.480> stubs<00:45:00.839> and<00:45:00.960> get<00:45:01.020> paid<00:45:01.200> than<00:45:01.440> the<00:45:01.619> other pay stubs and get paid than the other pay stubs and get paid than the other way<00:45:01.859> around<00:45:01.980> but<00:45:02.880> still<00:45:03.119> we<00:45:03.420> we<00:45:03.660> want<00:45:03.900> to<00:45:04.020> fix way around but still we we want to fix way around but still we we want to fix this this this um<00:45:05.160> so<00:45:05.640> payroll<00:45:06.240> uh um so payroll uh um so payroll uh a<00:45:07.980> payroll<00:45:08.400> software<00:45:08.880> and<00:45:09.540> then<00:45:09.660> general a payroll software and then general a payroll software and then general ledger<00:45:10.680> software<00:45:11.099> as<00:45:11.460> soon<00:45:11.640> as<00:45:11.760> we<00:45:12.119> have<00:45:12.359> the ledger software as soon as we have the ledger software as soon as we have the bandwidth<00:45:13.020> to<00:45:13.140> jump<00:45:13.319> on<00:45:13.500> that<00:45:13.680> next bandwidth to jump on that next bandwidth to jump on that next thing<00:45:15.240> and<00:45:15.839> so<00:45:15.960> my<00:45:16.140> guess<00:45:16.319> is<00:45:16.560> fiscal<00:45:17.220> year<00:45:17.460> 24

45:18 thing and so my guess is fiscal year 24 thing and so my guess is fiscal year 24 sometime<00:45:19.619> in<00:45:19.800> fiscal<00:45:20.160> 24<00:45:20.839> will<00:45:21.839> probably<00:45:22.280> be sometime in fiscal 24 will probably be sometime in fiscal 24 will probably be using<00:45:23.760> two<00:45:24.359> general<00:45:24.660> ledger using two general ledger using two general ledger applications<00:45:27.140> as<00:45:28.140> a<00:45:28.380> transition<00:45:28.800> from applications as a transition from applications as a transition from thought<00:45:29.940> right<00:45:30.240> to<00:45:30.480> whatever<00:45:30.660> else<00:45:31.260> we're thought right to whatever else we’re thought right to whatever else we’re going<00:45:31.740> to<00:45:31.859> migrate<00:45:32.160> to going to migrate to going to migrate to that’s<00:45:33.599> my<00:45:33.780> sense um one thing I um one thing I I<00:45:38.579> want<00:45:39.240> to<00:45:39.359> bring<00:45:39.480> up<00:45:39.660> that's<00:45:39.900> become<00:45:40.319> a I want to bring up that’s become a I want to bring up that’s become a priority<00:45:41.760> if<00:45:42.240> you<00:45:42.359> will priority if you will priority if you will um<00:45:43.319> in<00:45:43.619> the<00:45:43.800> past<00:45:44.099> it<00:45:44.579> seems<00:45:44.940> like<00:45:45.060> one<00:45:45.300> of um in the past it seems like one of um in the past it seems like one of those<00:45:45.480> uniquely<00:45:45.839> Marblehead<00:45:46.319> things<00:45:46.619> the those uniquely Marblehead things the those uniquely Marblehead things the fincom<00:45:47.940> has<00:45:48.359> voted<00:45:48.780> our<00:45:49.020> budget<00:45:49.440> before<00:45:50.040> we fincom has voted our budget before we fincom has voted our budget before we have<00:45:50.520> voted<00:45:50.819> our<00:45:51.000> budget<00:45:51.300> and<00:45:52.020> the<00:45:52.260> spirit<00:45:52.440> of have voted our budget and the spirit of have voted our budget and the spirit of making<00:45:55.680> the<00:45:56.040> community<00:45:56.280> really<00:45:57.000> see<00:45:57.300> the making the community really see the making the community really see the transparency<00:45:58.020> of<00:45:58.319> this<00:45:58.500> and<00:45:58.680> seeing<00:45:58.980> that<00:45:59.160> we transparency of this and seeing that we transparency of this and seeing that we own<00:45:59.520> our<00:45:59.760> budget<00:46:00.060> requests<00:46:00.540> it<00:46:00.960> is<00:46:01.140> not<00:46:01.260> being own our budget requests it is not being own our budget requests it is not being dictated<00:46:02.040> to<00:46:02.460> us<00:46:02.640> it's<00:46:02.880> something<00:46:03.060> we<00:46:03.420> own<00:46:03.859> we

46:04 dictated to us it’s something we own we dictated to us it’s something we own we are<00:46:05.220> our<00:46:05.339> sincere<00:46:05.940> hope<00:46:06.180> is<00:46:06.359> that<00:46:06.540> we<00:46:06.780> will are our sincere hope is that we will are our sincere hope is that we will have<00:46:07.740> voted<00:46:08.280> our<00:46:08.579> budget<00:46:09.000> and<00:46:09.660> had<00:46:09.900> our<00:46:10.079> budget have voted our budget and had our budget have voted our budget and had our budget hearing<00:46:10.859> prior<00:46:11.339> to<00:46:11.520> fincon<00:46:12.060> voting<00:46:12.420> our hearing prior to fincon voting our hearing prior to fincon voting our budget<00:46:12.839> it<00:46:12.960> just<00:46:13.140> seems<00:46:13.440> backwards<00:46:13.980> when<00:46:14.220> you budget it just seems backwards when you budget it just seems backwards when you guys<00:46:14.520> approve<00:46:14.880> a<00:46:15.000> budget<00:46:15.300> that<00:46:15.540> we<00:46:15.660> even<00:46:15.780> had<00:46:16.079> a guys approve a budget that we even had a guys approve a budget that we even had a hearing<00:46:16.560> on<00:46:16.740> yet<00:46:16.980> and<00:46:17.280> haven't<00:46:17.460> voted<00:46:18.020> so<00:46:19.020> how hearing on yet and haven’t voted so how hearing on yet and haven’t voted so how flexible<00:46:19.980> are<00:46:20.280> the<00:46:20.400> dates<00:46:20.700> you<00:46:20.880> gave<00:46:21.000> to<00:46:21.240> us flexible are the dates you gave to us flexible are the dates you gave to us because<00:46:21.839> that<00:46:22.740> might<00:46:22.980> be<00:46:23.280> really<00:46:23.579> tight<00:46:23.880> for because that might be really tight for because that might be really tight for us<00:46:24.359> to<00:46:24.599> have<00:46:24.720> had<00:46:25.020> our<00:46:25.319> budget<00:46:25.560> hearing<00:46:25.920> and us to have had our budget hearing and us to have had our budget hearing and voted<00:46:26.400> our<00:46:26.520> budget<00:46:26.760> on<00:46:26.940> by<00:46:27.180> then voted our budget on by then voted our budget on by then yeah<00:46:29.339> one<00:46:29.700> second<00:46:29.880> I'm<00:46:30.240> just<00:46:30.480> I<00:46:31.020> somehow<00:46:31.380> lost yeah one second I’m just I somehow lost yeah one second I’m just I somehow lost the<00:46:32.160> schedule<00:46:32.599> okay<00:46:33.599> I<00:46:34.319> just<00:46:34.440> I<00:46:34.800> think<00:46:34.920> it's the schedule okay I just I think it’s the schedule okay I just I think it’s really<00:46:35.280> really we own our we own our part<00:46:39.900> from<00:46:40.200> the<00:46:40.380> community<00:46:40.619> we've<00:46:41.160> had<00:46:41.339> our part from the community we’ve had our part from the community we’ve had our hearing<00:46:42.060> and<00:46:42.599> that's<00:46:42.780> what<00:46:43.020> you're<00:46:43.140> approving hearing and that’s what you’re approving hearing and that’s what you’re approving yeah<00:46:44.640> so yeah so yeah so they’re<00:46:46.680> not<00:46:46.920> all<00:46:47.460> that<00:46:47.700> flexible they’re not all that flexible they’re not all that flexible um<00:46:49.500> my<00:46:50.040> because<00:46:50.400> I<00:46:50.700> I<00:46:51.000> understand<00:46:51.300> how

46:51 um my because I I understand how um my because I I understand how difficult<00:46:52.200> of<00:46:52.440> a<00:46:52.619> process<00:46:52.920> this<00:46:53.220> is<00:46:53.339> going difficult of a process this is going difficult of a process this is going through<00:46:53.880> it<00:46:54.060> for<00:46:54.300> a<00:46:54.420> number<00:46:54.540> of<00:46:54.660> years<00:46:54.839> now through it for a number of years now through it for a number of years now um<00:46:56.280> that<00:46:56.940> March<00:46:57.359> 27th<00:46:58.079> which<00:46:58.319> is<00:46:58.500> really<00:46:58.740> our um that March 27th which is really our um that March 27th which is really our fourth<00:46:59.460> catch-all<00:46:59.880> night<00:47:00.060> for<00:47:00.359> you<00:47:00.480> and<00:47:00.660> any fourth catch-all night for you and any fourth catch-all night for you and any other<00:47:01.020> departments<00:47:01.500> that<00:47:01.740> need<00:47:01.920> we<00:47:02.220> go<00:47:02.400> until other departments that need we go until other departments that need we go until then<00:47:02.900> is<00:47:03.900> the<00:47:04.200> Monday<00:47:04.380> before<00:47:04.859> the<00:47:05.520> generally then is the Monday before the generally then is the Monday before the generally when<00:47:06.480> we<00:47:06.660> do<00:47:06.780> the<00:47:07.020> town<00:47:07.140> warrants<00:47:07.619> meeting when we do the town warrants meeting when we do the town warrants meeting when<00:47:08.040> I<00:47:08.160> get<00:47:08.280> up<00:47:08.400> there<00:47:08.520> and<00:47:08.700> talk<00:47:08.880> for<00:47:09.060> four when I get up there and talk for four when I get up there and talk for four hours<00:47:09.480> straight<00:47:09.839> so<00:47:10.740> generally<00:47:11.520> we<00:47:11.700> need<00:47:11.880> all hours straight so generally we need all hours straight so generally we need all Department<00:47:12.300> budgets<00:47:13.020> done<00:47:13.200> by<00:47:13.619> that<00:47:13.800> next Department budgets done by that next Department budgets done by that next Monday<00:47:14.339> so<00:47:14.880> I<00:47:15.599> think<00:47:15.780> you<00:47:16.440> know<00:47:16.500> the<00:47:16.859> 27th<00:47:17.520> is Monday so I think you know the 27th is Monday so I think you know the 27th is probably<00:47:18.000> where<00:47:18.480> we're<00:47:18.660> at probably where we’re at probably where we’re at um<00:47:19.859> as<00:47:20.099> as<00:47:20.339> probably<00:47:20.700> the<00:47:21.300> latest<00:47:21.480> time<00:47:21.960> with um as as probably the latest time with um as as probably the latest time with that<00:47:22.800> we<00:47:22.980> would<00:47:23.160> need<00:47:23.339> to<00:47:23.520> have<00:47:23.700> that<00:47:24.000> hearing that we would need to have that hearing that we would need to have that hearing for<00:47:24.780> us for us for us again<00:47:26.760> we<00:47:27.180> hopefully<00:47:27.660> it'll<00:47:27.900> be<00:47:28.020> the<00:47:28.200> 13th<00:47:28.680> but again we hopefully it’ll be the 13th but again we hopefully it’ll be the 13th but wouldn’t<00:47:29.760> be<00:47:30.060> surprised<00:47:30.420> if<00:47:30.540> we<00:47:30.720> use<00:47:30.839> that wouldn’t be surprised if we use that wouldn’t be surprised if we use that night<00:47:31.260> for<00:47:31.500> you<00:47:31.680> guys<00:47:31.859> or<00:47:32.160> somebody<00:47:32.700> else<00:47:33.060> as night for you guys or somebody else as night for you guys or somebody else as well

47:37 um um and<00:47:37.560> then<00:47:37.740> one<00:47:38.160> other<00:47:38.280> thing<00:47:38.579> I<00:47:39.119> just<00:47:39.180> wanted and then one other thing I just wanted and then one other thing I just wanted to<00:47:39.540> throw<00:47:39.720> out<00:47:39.900> there<00:47:40.140> in<00:47:40.319> an<00:47:40.680> idea<00:47:41.040> of to throw out there in an idea of to throw out there in an idea of planning planning planning um<00:47:42.720> and<00:47:43.020> this<00:47:43.200> is<00:47:43.260> a<00:47:43.440> little<00:47:43.619> bit<00:47:43.800> off<00:47:44.220> of<00:47:44.520> kind um and this is a little bit off of kind um and this is a little bit off of kind of<00:47:45.119> the<00:47:45.660> process<00:47:45.900> last<00:47:46.319> year<00:47:46.560> but of the process last year but of the process last year but um<00:47:48.060> I'm<00:47:48.359> interested<00:47:48.720> in<00:47:48.960> better um I’m interested in better um I’m interested in better understanding<00:47:50.119> kind<00:47:51.119> of understanding kind of understanding kind of how<00:47:53.099> the<00:47:53.640> school<00:47:53.760> department how the school department how the school department and<00:47:55.740> school<00:47:55.920> committee<00:47:56.400> kind<00:47:56.640> of<00:47:56.760> views and school committee kind of views and school committee kind of views Marblehead<00:47:57.599> and<00:47:57.900> are<00:47:58.740> there<00:47:58.980> peer Marblehead and are there peer Marblehead and are there peer communities<00:47:59.819> that<00:48:00.240> you<00:48:00.359> guys<00:48:00.540> kind<00:48:00.839> of communities that you guys kind of communities that you guys kind of compare<00:48:01.319> yourself<00:48:01.560> with compare yourself with compare yourself with um and<00:48:03.900> I'd<00:48:04.020> really<00:48:04.200> like<00:48:04.319> to<00:48:04.440> get<00:48:04.680> as<00:48:05.099> many um and I’d really like to get as many um and I’d really like to get as many metrics<00:48:05.880> as<00:48:06.000> we<00:48:06.180> can<00:48:06.359> I<00:48:06.660> I<00:48:06.839> know<00:48:07.140> I'm<00:48:07.319> not<00:48:07.560> a<00:48:07.859> I'm metrics as we can I I know I’m not a I’m metrics as we can I I know I’m not a I’m an<00:48:08.520> accountant<00:48:09.000> and<00:48:09.240> I<00:48:09.540> look<00:48:09.720> at<00:48:09.839> financial an accountant and I look at financial an accountant and I look at financial data<00:48:10.680> all<00:48:10.800> day<00:48:10.980> but<00:48:11.160> I'm<00:48:11.339> not<00:48:11.520> necessarily<00:48:12.060> an data all day but I’m not necessarily an data all day but I’m not necessarily an expert<00:48:12.780> on<00:48:12.960> government<00:48:13.200> accounting<00:48:13.920> and<00:48:14.280> the expert on government accounting and the expert on government accounting and the best<00:48:14.819> metrics<00:48:15.359> to<00:48:15.480> look<00:48:15.599> at<00:48:15.780> for<00:48:16.020> a<00:48:16.140> school best metrics to look at for a school best metrics to look at for a school department<00:48:16.700> but<00:48:17.700> to<00:48:18.119> the<00:48:18.300> extent<00:48:18.540> we<00:48:18.839> can<00:48:19.020> kind department but to the extent we can kind department but to the extent we can kind of<00:48:19.260> do<00:48:19.500> our<00:48:19.920> peer<00:48:20.280> Community<00:48:20.480> comparisons of do our peer Community comparisons of do our peer Community comparisons whether<00:48:22.200> it<00:48:22.440> be

48:23 whether it be whether it be um<00:48:23.940> you<00:48:24.119> know<00:48:24.180> enrollment<00:48:24.660> data<00:48:25.020> like<00:48:25.140> Cam um you know enrollment data like Cam um you know enrollment data like Cam said<00:48:25.800> or<00:48:26.339> I<00:48:26.880> don't<00:48:27.000> know<00:48:27.119> if<00:48:27.240> it's<00:48:27.359> teacher<00:48:27.780> to said or I don’t know if it’s teacher to said or I don’t know if it’s teacher to student<00:48:28.200> ratios<00:48:28.980> or<00:48:29.460> average<00:48:29.760> teacher student ratios or average teacher student ratios or average teacher salaries<00:48:30.960> or<00:48:31.440> per<00:48:31.859> pupil<00:48:32.339> spend<00:48:32.819> I<00:48:33.359> know<00:48:33.480> that salaries or per pupil spend I know that salaries or per pupil spend I know that there’s<00:48:33.900> probably<00:48:34.079> data<00:48:34.619> out<00:48:34.800> there<00:48:35.040> but<00:48:35.579> you there’s probably data out there but you there’s probably data out there but you know<00:48:35.880> just<00:48:36.060> putting<00:48:36.359> some<00:48:36.540> numbers<00:48:36.720> around know just putting some numbers around know just putting some numbers around that<00:48:37.319> again<00:48:37.560> for<00:48:37.920> your<00:48:38.160> story<00:48:38.400> as<00:48:39.240> to<00:48:39.480> you<00:48:40.020> know that again for your story as to you know that again for your story as to you know how<00:48:40.319> we<00:48:40.560> compare<00:48:40.920> to<00:48:41.220> the<00:48:41.400> towns<00:48:41.760> that<00:48:42.119> you how we compare to the towns that you how we compare to the towns that you know<00:48:42.780> for<00:48:43.440> me<00:48:43.560> as<00:48:43.800> a<00:48:43.980> taxpayer know for me as a taxpayer know for me as a taxpayer putting<00:48:45.720> the<00:48:45.839> finance<00:48:46.079> committee<00:48:46.440> aside<00:48:46.800> you putting the finance committee aside you putting the finance committee aside you know<00:48:47.700> how<00:48:48.300> I<00:48:48.480> want<00:48:48.660> my<00:48:48.900> kids<00:48:49.020> to<00:48:49.260> go<00:48:49.380> through know how I want my kids to go through know how I want my kids to go through this<00:48:49.740> school<00:48:49.980> system<00:48:50.220> and<00:48:51.060> and<00:48:51.240> what<00:48:51.540> type<00:48:51.660> of this school system and and what type of this school system and and what type of school<00:48:51.960> system<00:48:52.260> does<00:48:52.560> Marblehead<00:48:52.980> want<00:48:53.280> to<00:48:53.400> be school system does Marblehead want to be school system does Marblehead want to be in<00:48:54.119> relation<00:48:54.359> to<00:48:54.540> other<00:48:54.660> towns<00:48:55.079> and<00:48:55.260> how<00:48:55.440> does in relation to other towns and how does in relation to other towns and how does the<00:48:55.680> budget<00:48:55.980> kind<00:48:56.640> of<00:48:56.760> talk<00:48:57.240> to<00:48:57.780> that the budget kind of talk to that the budget kind of talk to that um<00:48:58.619> so<00:48:58.740> I<00:48:58.859> guess<00:48:58.980> I'll<00:48:59.099> just<00:48:59.280> throw<00:48:59.460> that<00:48:59.700> out um so I guess I’ll just throw that out um so I guess I’ll just throw that out there<00:49:00.060> for<00:49:00.480> you<00:49:00.900> know<00:49:01.020> future<00:49:01.260> meetings<00:49:01.800> if<00:49:02.099> if there for you know future meetings if if there for you know future meetings if if maybe<00:49:02.819> we<00:49:03.060> could<00:49:03.180> kind<00:49:03.359> of<00:49:03.420> look<00:49:03.480> at<00:49:03.660> some<00:49:03.839> of maybe we could kind of look at some of maybe we could kind of look at some of that<00:49:04.079> data<00:49:04.380> this<00:49:04.560> year<00:49:04.740> I<00:49:05.280> don't<00:49:05.400> know<00:49:05.520> how that data this year I don’t know how that data this year I don’t know how easy<00:49:05.880> it<00:49:06.119> is easy it is easy it is to<00:49:07.260> pull<00:49:07.380> that<00:49:07.619> data<00:49:07.920> on<00:49:08.160> peer<00:49:08.460> communities to pull that data on peer communities

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49:55 the playing field with the the quote W the playing field with the the quote W towns towns towns um<00:49:56.760> and<00:49:57.180> so<00:49:57.359> it's<00:49:57.720> not<00:49:57.960> it's<00:49:58.319> not<00:49:58.440> a<00:49:58.560> fair um and so it’s not it’s not a fair um and so it’s not it’s not a fair comparison<00:49:59.099> but<00:49:59.520> that<00:49:59.760> is<00:49:59.940> what<00:50:00.480> the<00:50:00.839> general comparison but that is what the general comparison but that is what the general Community<00:50:01.500> thinks<00:50:02.280> we're<00:50:02.579> on<00:50:02.880> par<00:50:03.359> with Community thinks we’re on par with Community thinks we’re on par with um<00:50:04.920> in<00:50:05.280> reality<00:50:05.640> Desi<00:50:06.300> sees<00:50:06.480> us<00:50:06.599> more<00:50:06.720> like um in reality Desi sees us more like um in reality Desi sees us more like John<00:50:07.980> correct<00:50:08.339> me<00:50:08.400> if<00:50:08.520> I'm<00:50:08.640> wrong<00:50:08.760> like John correct me if I’m wrong like John correct me if I’m wrong like already already already um<00:50:10.740> which um which um which you<00:50:12.900> know<00:50:12.960> yeah<00:50:13.619> so<00:50:14.040> I<00:50:14.460> don't<00:50:14.700> raise<00:50:14.880> Ranch<00:50:15.180> for you know yeah so I don’t raise Ranch for you know yeah so I don’t raise Ranch for over<00:50:16.020> a<00:50:16.200> million<00:50:16.560> dollars<00:50:16.920> you<00:50:17.819> know<00:50:17.940> it<00:50:18.480> it over a million dollars you know it it over a million dollars you know it it that’s<00:50:19.140> not<00:50:19.319> what<00:50:19.500> people<00:50:19.619> want<00:50:19.800> to<00:50:19.920> hear that’s not what people want to hear that’s not what people want to hear um<00:50:21.000> I<00:50:21.540> imagine<00:50:21.780> that<00:50:22.319> you<00:50:22.500> guys<00:50:22.619> talk<00:50:22.980> about um I imagine that you guys talk about um I imagine that you guys talk about the<00:50:23.460> stuff<00:50:23.700> at<00:50:23.940> your<00:50:24.060> school<00:50:24.180> committee the stuff at your school committee the stuff at your school committee meeting<00:50:24.720> so meeting so meeting so um<00:50:25.920> you<00:50:26.040> know<00:50:26.160> to<00:50:26.339> the<00:50:26.460> extent<00:50:26.760> we<00:50:27.000> can<00:50:27.180> get um you know to the extent we can get um you know to the extent we can get involved<00:50:27.839> at<00:50:28.260> least<00:50:28.440> at<00:50:28.980> a<00:50:29.220> you<00:50:29.760> know<00:50:29.819> micro involved at least at a you know micro involved at least at a you know micro level<00:50:30.420> in<00:50:30.720> some<00:50:30.900> of<00:50:31.020> those<00:50:31.140> conversations<00:50:31.680> on level in some of those conversations on level in some of those conversations on finance<00:50:32.760> committee<00:50:33.119> and<00:50:33.240> budget<00:50:33.599> and finance committee and budget and finance committee and budget and comparing<00:50:34.380> that<00:50:34.560> so<00:50:35.220> we<00:50:35.460> can<00:50:35.579> better comparing that so we can better comparing that so we can better understand<00:50:36.060> and<00:50:36.540> better<00:50:36.839> communicate understand and better communicate understand and better communicate that<00:50:38.880> type<00:50:39.000> of<00:50:39.180> data<00:50:39.540> and<00:50:40.020> compare<00:50:40.319> it<00:50:40.440> to<00:50:40.619> what

50:40 that type of data and compare it to what that type of data and compare it to what the<00:50:41.160> town<00:50:41.280> can<00:50:41.520> support<00:50:41.700> and<00:50:41.940> whatnot<00:50:42.300> I<00:50:42.900> just the town can support and whatnot I just the town can support and whatnot I just think<00:50:43.140> I<00:50:43.380> don't<00:50:43.500> know<00:50:43.560> I<00:50:43.740> don't<00:50:43.859> want<00:50:43.980> to<00:50:44.040> speak think I don’t know I don’t want to speak think I don’t know I don’t want to speak for<00:50:44.339> Kim<00:50:44.520> and<00:50:44.760> Pat<00:50:44.880> but<00:50:45.060> I<00:50:45.180> think<00:50:45.300> that<00:50:45.480> would for Kim and Pat but I think that would for Kim and Pat but I think that would be<00:50:45.720> helpful<00:50:45.960> for<00:50:46.200> me<00:50:46.319> as<00:50:46.800> I<00:50:47.040> continue<00:50:47.220> to<00:50:47.640> grow be helpful for me as I continue to grow be helpful for me as I continue to grow with<00:50:48.300> this<00:50:48.720> liaison<00:50:49.140> group<00:50:49.559> definitely<00:50:50.460> and with this liaison group definitely and with this liaison group definitely and um<00:50:51.240> Dr<00:50:51.359> Bucky<00:50:51.780> and<00:50:52.079> Michelle<00:50:52.260> when<00:50:52.559> we<00:50:52.740> present um Dr Bucky and Michelle when we present um Dr Bucky and Michelle when we present that<00:50:53.099> data<00:50:53.520> can<00:50:53.700> you<00:50:53.880> also<00:50:54.180> have<00:50:54.420> the that data can you also have the that data can you also have the comparisons<00:50:55.140> of<00:50:55.380> how<00:50:55.859> what<00:50:56.160> the<00:50:56.339> percentage comparisons of how what the percentage comparisons of how what the percentage of<00:50:56.819> their<00:50:57.059> students<00:50:57.599> on<00:50:57.900> IEPs<00:50:58.619> are<00:50:58.800> and<00:50:59.339> what of their students on IEPs are and what of their students on IEPs are and what percentage<00:50:59.940> of<00:51:00.059> their<00:51:00.300> students<00:51:00.599> are percentage of their students are percentage of their students are outplaced<00:51:01.500> because<00:51:01.859> really<00:51:02.280> where<00:51:02.640> special outplaced because really where special outplaced because really where special education<00:51:03.240> is<00:51:03.420> such<00:51:03.599> a<00:51:03.720> driving<00:51:04.020> force education is such a driving force education is such a driving force um<00:51:05.760> I<00:51:06.000> remember<00:51:06.180> when<00:51:06.420> bill<00:51:06.540> mccauldiff<00:51:07.140> came um I remember when bill mccauldiff came um I remember when bill mccauldiff came one<00:51:07.559> of<00:51:07.680> the<00:51:07.740> things<00:51:07.920> that's<00:51:08.160> jumped<00:51:08.579> out<00:51:08.700> of one of the things that’s jumped out of one of the things that’s jumped out of him<00:51:09.000> was<00:51:09.300> many<00:51:09.960> more<00:51:10.200> of<00:51:10.319> our<00:51:10.559> students him was many more of our students him was many more of our students percentile<00:51:11.460> wise<00:51:11.940> are<00:51:12.240> on<00:51:12.420> an<00:51:12.599> IEP<00:51:12.900> than<00:51:13.859> is percentile wise are on an IEP than is percentile wise are on an IEP than is the<00:51:14.579> average<00:51:14.700> Town the average Town the average Town um<00:51:16.079> and<00:51:16.260> there's<00:51:16.440> a<00:51:16.740> myriad<00:51:17.339> of<00:51:17.520> factors<00:51:17.819> that um and there’s a myriad of factors that um and there’s a myriad of factors that might<00:51:18.240> factor<00:51:18.660> into<00:51:18.960> that<00:51:19.319> but<00:51:20.579> um<00:51:20.640> it<00:51:21.059> simply might factor into that but um it simply might factor into that but um it simply costs<00:51:21.839> more<00:51:22.079> to<00:51:22.319> educate<00:51:22.680> a<00:51:22.859> child<00:51:22.980> than<00:51:23.280> an costs more to educate a child than an costs more to educate a child than an IEP<00:51:23.700> than<00:51:24.059> it<00:51:24.240> does<00:51:24.359> in<00:51:24.540> general<00:51:24.660> education IEP than it does in general education IEP than it does in general education students<00:51:25.500> so<00:51:25.680> I<00:51:25.859> just<00:51:25.920> want<00:51:26.040> to<00:51:26.160> make<00:51:26.280> sure

51:26 students so I just want to make sure students so I just want to make sure that<00:51:26.640> we're<00:51:26.760> keeping<00:51:27.180> that<00:51:27.359> in<00:51:27.720> line<00:51:27.900> with that we’re keeping that in line with that we’re keeping that in line with what<00:51:29.520> are<00:51:29.640> our<00:51:29.760> peer<00:51:30.059> communities<00:51:30.420> and<00:51:30.660> how what are our peer communities and how what are our peer communities and how many<00:51:31.020> what's<00:51:31.440> the<00:51:31.619> percentage<00:51:31.920> of<00:51:32.040> their many what’s the percentage of their many what’s the percentage of their students<00:51:32.460> on<00:51:32.640> these<00:51:32.819> IEPs um does anybody have anything else to um does anybody have anything else to add add add I<00:51:41.940> just<00:51:42.000> wanted<00:51:42.119> to I just wanted to I just wanted to um<00:51:42.960> quickly<00:51:43.440> round<00:51:43.680> back<00:51:44.099> to<00:51:45.079> cleargov<00:51:46.339> for um quickly round back to cleargov for um quickly round back to cleargov for the<00:51:47.760> schools<00:51:48.180> did<00:51:48.599> I<00:51:48.780> hear<00:51:49.220> 2024<00:51:50.220> as<00:51:50.579> the<00:51:50.819> date the schools did I hear 2024 as the date the schools did I hear 2024 as the date for<00:51:51.599> that for that for that what<00:51:54.660> is<00:51:54.780> we're<00:51:55.079> currently<00:51:55.380> using<00:51:55.800> it<00:51:56.040> or what is we’re currently using it or what is we’re currently using it or Michelle<00:51:56.940> has<00:51:57.240> been<00:51:57.420> given<00:51:57.660> access<00:51:57.780> she'll Michelle has been given access she’ll Michelle has been given access she’ll start<00:51:58.380> in<00:51:58.619> if<00:51:59.099> I<00:51:59.280> know<00:51:59.339> Michelle<00:51:59.579> she's start in if I know Michelle she’s start in if I know Michelle she’s already<00:52:00.359> started<00:52:00.720> but<00:52:00.960> I<00:52:01.319> no<00:52:01.559> I<00:52:02.040> don't<00:52:02.160> do<00:52:02.339> that already started but I no I don’t do that already started but I no I don’t do that but<00:52:02.700> I<00:52:02.819> mean<00:52:02.940> to<00:52:03.180> have<00:52:03.359> full<00:52:03.839> I<00:52:04.260> mean<00:52:04.380> those but I mean to have full I mean those but I mean to have full I mean those that’s<00:52:05.339> not<00:52:05.579> a<00:52:05.760> quick<00:52:05.940> process<00:52:06.359> I<00:52:06.780> know<00:52:06.900> she's that’s not a quick process I know she’s that’s not a quick process I know she’s amazing<00:52:07.500> and<00:52:07.740> so<00:52:07.859> it'll<00:52:08.099> be<00:52:08.220> far<00:52:08.400> quicker<00:52:08.880> with amazing and so it’ll be far quicker with amazing and so it’ll be far quicker with her<00:52:09.900> at<00:52:10.260> the<00:52:10.380> helm<00:52:10.680> no<00:52:11.099> doubt<00:52:11.460> but<00:52:12.420> what<00:52:12.780> is<00:52:13.200> but

52:13 her at the helm no doubt but what is but her at the helm no doubt but what is but the<00:52:14.040> expectation<00:52:14.460> is<00:52:14.760> that<00:52:15.000> eventually<00:52:15.300> we the expectation is that eventually we the expectation is that eventually we will<00:52:15.720> be<00:52:15.839> fully<00:52:16.200> on<00:52:16.619> or<00:52:17.280> using<00:52:17.760> clear<00:52:18.059> gov will be fully on or using clear gov will be fully on or using clear gov which<00:52:19.980> will<00:52:20.339> hopefully<00:52:20.940> help<00:52:21.480> Michelle<00:52:22.200> be which will hopefully help Michelle be which will hopefully help Michelle be able<00:52:22.920> to<00:52:22.980> produce<00:52:23.400> more<00:52:23.940> reports<00:52:24.300> in<00:52:24.420> a<00:52:24.599> faster able to produce more reports in a faster able to produce more reports in a faster amount<00:52:25.260> of<00:52:25.380> time<00:52:25.559> and<00:52:25.859> and<00:52:26.220> not<00:52:26.880> have<00:52:27.119> to amount of time and and not have to amount of time and and not have to laboriously<00:52:27.960> slave<00:52:28.559> over<00:52:28.740> finding<00:52:29.160> numbers laboriously slave over finding numbers laboriously slave over finding numbers so<00:52:30.180> that<00:52:30.300> we<00:52:30.480> will<00:52:30.660> be<00:52:30.780> using<00:52:30.960> the<00:52:31.079> same<00:52:31.200> system so that we will be using the same system so that we will be using the same system as<00:52:31.619> the<00:52:31.740> town<00:52:31.859> still<00:52:32.160> correct as the town still correct as the town still correct yes<00:52:34.079> yeah<00:52:34.500> I<00:52:34.740> think yes yeah I think yes yeah I think I<00:52:36.059> think<00:52:36.180> clear<00:52:36.420> gov<00:52:36.900> I<00:52:37.020> would<00:52:37.140> say<00:52:37.319> we're<00:52:37.800> in<00:52:37.980> a I think clear gov I would say we’re in a I think clear gov I would say we’re in a 30<00:52:38.940> to<00:52:39.300> 45<00:52:39.599> day<00:52:40.020> window 30 to 45 day window 30 to 45 day window for<00:52:41.640> that<00:52:41.940> and<00:52:42.180> what<00:52:42.480> what<00:52:42.660> was<00:52:42.839> referred<00:52:43.200> to for that and what what was referred to for that and what what was referred to in<00:52:43.440> the<00:52:43.619> 2024<00:52:44.160> time<00:52:44.460> frame<00:52:44.760> was<00:52:44.940> the<00:52:45.180> general in the 2024 time frame was the general in the 2024 time frame was the general ledger<00:52:45.960> software<00:52:46.440> okay<00:52:46.800> getting<00:52:47.520> off<00:52:47.760> a<00:52:47.940> soft ledger software okay getting off a soft ledger software okay getting off a soft writing<00:52:48.599> going<00:52:48.900> to<00:52:49.319> some<00:52:49.680> other<00:52:49.859> and<00:52:50.460> having writing going to some other and having writing going to some other and having to<00:52:51.119> have<00:52:51.240> both<00:52:51.420> for<00:52:51.660> a<00:52:51.780> while<00:52:51.839> because<00:52:52.079> you to have both for a while because you to have both for a while because you need<00:52:52.380> to<00:52:52.559> you<00:52:52.920> need<00:52:53.160> to<00:52:53.280> transition need to you need to transition need to you need to transition absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah<00:52:55.920> I<00:52:56.160> do<00:52:56.280> think<00:52:56.460> I<00:52:56.880> I<00:52:57.180> call<00:52:57.599> it<00:52:57.780> in<00:52:58.079> my yeah I do think I I call it in my yeah I do think I I call it in my professional<00:52:58.680> life<00:52:58.980> kind<00:52:59.579> of<00:52:59.760> the<00:52:59.880> parallel

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54:32 in this year that will yield data from in this year that will yield data from the<00:54:32.880> community the community the community um<00:54:34.140> that<00:54:34.500> instead<00:54:34.920> of<00:54:34.980> them<00:54:35.099> answering<00:54:35.640> the um that instead of them answering the um that instead of them answering the questions<00:54:35.940> we<00:54:36.180> put<00:54:36.359> out<00:54:36.480> to<00:54:36.660> them<00:54:36.839> they<00:54:37.079> can questions we put out to them they can questions we put out to them they can really<00:54:37.319> speak<00:54:37.680> in<00:54:37.920> their<00:54:38.099> own<00:54:38.220> terms<00:54:38.579> and really speak in their own terms and really speak in their own terms and we’re<00:54:39.300> hopefully<00:54:39.660> not<00:54:39.780> missing we’re hopefully not missing we’re hopefully not missing um<00:54:41.760> some<00:54:42.420> thoughts<00:54:42.780> that<00:54:42.900> they<00:54:43.020> have<00:54:43.200> so<00:54:44.040> we um some thoughts that they have so we um some thoughts that they have so we put<00:54:44.640> one<00:54:44.819> out<00:54:45.059> asking<00:54:45.780> what<00:54:46.200> are<00:54:46.380> your put one out asking what are your put one out asking what are your priorities priorities priorities um<00:54:48.059> and<00:54:48.359> that<00:54:48.540> data<00:54:48.960> has<00:54:49.140> just<00:54:49.319> come<00:54:49.559> in<00:54:49.740> I um and that data has just come in I um and that data has just come in I think<00:54:50.099> that<00:54:50.280> closed<00:54:50.640> last<00:54:50.819> Thursday<00:54:51.180> so<00:54:51.780> we're think that closed last Thursday so we’re think that closed last Thursday so we’re gonna<00:54:52.440> see<00:54:52.800> a<00:54:53.099> little<00:54:53.579> friend<00:54:54.180> here<00:54:54.480> joining gonna see a little friend here joining gonna see a little friend here joining me<00:54:54.960> sorry me sorry me sorry um<00:54:56.220> so um we’ll be seeing that data more um we’ll be seeing that data more thoroughly<00:55:01.380> and thoroughly and thoroughly and what<00:55:04.380> what<00:55:04.380> community<00:55:05.040> are<00:55:05.880> you<00:55:06.000> talking what what community are you talking what what community are you talking about<00:55:06.500> are<00:55:07.500> you<00:55:07.680> you're<00:55:07.859> talking<00:55:08.099> about<00:55:08.339> the about are you you’re talking about the about are you you’re talking about the school<00:55:09.180> in<00:55:10.020> internal<00:55:10.619> spoken school in internal spoken school in internal spoken we<00:55:12.240> put<00:55:12.660> um<00:55:12.660> the<00:55:12.839> thought<00:55:13.020> exchange<00:55:13.500> I'm<00:55:14.460> sorry we put um the thought exchange I’m sorry we put um the thought exchange I’m sorry she’s<00:55:15.180> held<00:55:15.540> on<00:55:15.660> for<00:55:15.839> two<00:55:15.960> meetings<00:55:16.380> today she’s held on for two meetings today she’s held on for two meetings today this<00:55:16.859> is<00:55:16.980> the<00:55:17.099> best<00:55:17.220> she<00:55:17.460> can<00:55:17.579> do

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56:04 their priority so we’ll have that data their priority so we’ll have that data okay<00:56:05.640> that<00:56:06.300> I<00:56:06.780> that's<00:56:07.140> a<00:56:07.380> great<00:56:07.500> it's<00:56:08.040> a<00:56:08.220> great okay that I that’s a great it’s a great okay that I that’s a great it’s a great plan plan plan um<00:56:09.720> I<00:56:10.020> wasn't<00:56:10.140> aware<00:56:10.500> of<00:56:10.680> it<00:56:10.800> first<00:56:11.099> I'd<00:56:11.339> heard um I wasn’t aware of it first I’d heard um I wasn’t aware of it first I’d heard of<00:56:11.700> it<00:56:11.819> was<00:56:12.200> at<00:56:13.200> your<00:56:13.380> school<00:56:13.619> committee of it was at your school committee of it was at your school committee meeting<00:56:14.160> last<00:56:14.460> Thursday<00:56:14.700> so meeting last Thursday so meeting last Thursday so um<00:56:16.319> I<00:56:16.680> was<00:56:16.800> I<00:56:17.160> was<00:56:17.339> interested<00:56:17.700> in<00:56:17.880> that<00:56:18.119> and<00:56:18.420> we um I was I was interested in that and we um I was I was interested in that and we got<00:56:18.900> a<00:56:19.020> tremendous<00:56:19.319> amount<00:56:19.500> of<00:56:19.619> feedback<00:56:19.920> too got a tremendous amount of feedback too got a tremendous amount of feedback too which<00:56:20.579> was<00:56:20.760> really<00:56:21.000> nice<00:56:21.240> to<00:56:21.480> see<00:56:21.839> um<00:56:21.839> yeah which was really nice to see um yeah which was really nice to see um yeah that’s<00:56:22.619> what<00:56:22.800> it<00:56:22.980> sounded<00:56:23.339> like<00:56:23.460> but that’s what it sounded like but that’s what it sounded like but um<00:56:24.660> it<00:56:25.200> it<00:56:25.440> might<00:56:25.800> in<00:56:26.099> in<00:56:26.280> the<00:56:26.520> future<00:56:26.640> you um it it might in in the future you um it it might in in the future you might<00:56:27.359> want<00:56:27.839> to<00:56:28.020> do<00:56:28.260> something<00:56:28.619> like<00:56:29.040> the might want to do something like the might want to do something like the access<00:56:30.300> the<00:56:30.720> code<00:56:30.900> red<00:56:31.140> type<00:56:31.740> communication access the code red type communication access the code red type communication sound<00:56:33.059> wide<00:56:33.300> system<00:56:33.599> because<00:56:34.339> that<00:56:35.339> would sound wide system because that would sound wide system because that would reach<00:56:35.819> more<00:56:36.180> of<00:56:36.599> the<00:56:36.960> outside<00:56:37.319> of<00:56:37.680> the<00:56:37.859> school reach more of the outside of the school reach more of the outside of the school community<00:56:38.460> community<00:56:39.559> population<00:56:40.559> probably community community population probably community community population probably like<00:56:41.940> me<00:56:42.240> and<00:56:42.420> so like me and so like me and so um<00:56:43.859> it's<00:56:44.520> just<00:56:44.700> a<00:56:44.880> suggestion<00:56:45.359> in<00:56:45.900> in um it’s just a suggestion in in um it’s just a suggestion in in um whatever<00:56:47.760> data<00:56:48.240> you<00:56:48.359> have<00:56:48.480> will<00:56:48.720> be<00:56:48.900> great um whatever data you have will be great um whatever data you have will be great let’s<00:56:49.680> see<00:56:50.099> what<00:56:50.280> it<00:56:50.400> says<00:56:51.119> um<00:56:51.240> but<00:56:52.079> um<00:56:52.140> you

56:52 let’s see what it says um but um you let’s see what it says um but um you know<00:56:52.859> again<00:56:53.099> I'm<00:56:53.760> it<00:56:54.300> would<00:56:54.540> unless<00:56:55.020> you know again I’m it would unless you know again I’m it would unless you unless<00:56:55.619> there's<00:56:55.920> a<00:56:56.280> reasonably<00:56:56.819> substantial unless there’s a reasonably substantial unless there’s a reasonably substantial uh<00:56:59.280> cons<00:56:59.760> non<00:57:00.420> non-school<00:57:01.079> related uh cons non non-school related uh cons non non-school related constituent<00:57:03.920> input<00:57:04.920> from<00:57:05.220> that<00:57:05.460> I<00:57:06.000> we<00:57:06.660> that's constituent input from that I we that’s constituent input from that I we that’s something<00:57:07.559> to<00:57:07.980> think<00:57:08.339> about<00:57:08.520> as<00:57:09.240> you<00:57:09.780> review something to think about as you review something to think about as you review the<00:57:10.380> data

57:16 we designed our priorities really based we designed our priorities really based on<00:57:16.920> the<00:57:17.160> data<00:57:17.520> we're<00:57:17.760> seeing<00:57:18.119> as<00:57:18.300> a<00:57:18.480> as<00:57:18.720> a on the data we’re seeing as a as a on the data we’re seeing as a as a district<00:57:19.079> you<00:57:19.680> know<00:57:19.800> for<00:57:20.339> instance<00:57:20.579> our district you know for instance our district you know for instance our out-of-district<00:57:21.420> placements<00:57:21.960> our<00:57:22.559> MCAS out-of-district placements our MCAS out-of-district placements our MCAS scores<00:57:23.339> we've<00:57:23.819> been<00:57:23.880> reviewing<00:57:24.359> those<00:57:24.599> in scores we’ve been reviewing those in scores we’ve been reviewing those in great<00:57:25.140> depth<00:57:25.559> and<00:57:26.040> we<00:57:26.280> show<00:57:26.579> areas<00:57:27.119> that<00:57:27.359> we great depth and we show areas that we great depth and we show areas that we may<00:57:27.780> have<00:57:28.020> grown<00:57:28.619> or<00:57:29.220> there<00:57:29.760> were<00:57:29.940> some may have grown or there were some may have grown or there were some significant<00:57:30.599> areas<00:57:31.079> of<00:57:31.260> concern<00:57:31.740> so<00:57:32.099> we'll significant areas of concern so we’ll significant areas of concern so we’ll want<00:57:32.520> to<00:57:32.700> make<00:57:32.819> investments<00:57:33.599> in want to make investments in want to make investments in say<00:57:35.400> fifth<00:57:35.760> grade<00:57:35.880> math<00:57:36.119> because<00:57:36.540> we<00:57:36.839> saw<00:57:37.020> we say fifth grade math because we saw we say fifth grade math because we saw we had<00:57:37.920> like<00:57:38.220> a had like a had like a it<00:57:39.540> was<00:57:39.960> a<00:57:40.200> substantial<00:57:40.859> Delta it was a substantial Delta it was a substantial Delta um<00:57:42.900> so<00:57:43.380> we<00:57:43.740> try<00:57:43.920> to<00:57:44.040> make<00:57:44.220> sure<00:57:44.400> everything's um so we try to make sure everything’s um so we try to make sure everything’s data<00:57:45.359> driven<00:57:45.599> we<00:57:45.960> absolutely<00:57:46.500> want<00:57:46.859> to<00:57:46.980> hear data driven we absolutely want to hear data driven we absolutely want to hear from<00:57:47.400> the<00:57:47.640> community<00:57:47.760> what<00:57:48.359> their<00:57:48.540> priorities from the community what their priorities from the community what their priorities are<00:57:49.200> too<00:57:49.440> but are too but are too but the<00:57:52.020> majority<00:57:52.380> of<00:57:52.559> our<00:57:52.680> decisions<00:57:53.040> will<00:57:53.460> just the majority of our decisions will just the majority of our decisions will just be<00:57:54.059> data<00:57:54.660> driven<00:57:54.960> from<00:57:55.319> our<00:57:55.619> our<00:57:55.980> test<00:57:56.579> scores be data driven from our our test scores be data driven from our our test scores from<00:57:57.540> our<00:57:57.720> outplacements<00:57:58.619> from<00:57:59.460> new from our outplacements from new from our outplacements from new curriculum<00:58:00.359> new<00:58:00.660> standards<00:58:01.140> that<00:58:01.260> are<00:58:01.440> coming curriculum new standards that are coming curriculum new standards that are coming out<00:58:01.740> from<00:58:01.980> Desi<00:58:02.520> things<00:58:02.819> like<00:58:03.059> that

58:10 great Fair that’s fair thanks great Fair that’s fair thanks um<00:58:10.200> so<00:58:10.380> if<00:58:10.559> there's<00:58:10.740> no<00:58:10.980> other<00:58:11.099> new<00:58:11.400> business<00:58:11.700> I um so if there’s no other new business I um so if there’s no other new business I will<00:58:12.480> adjourn<00:58:13.020> us<00:58:13.140> at<00:58:13.680> 1<00:58:14.280> 58. will adjourn us at 1 58. will adjourn us at 1 58. thank<00:58:16.380> you<00:58:16.500> all<00:58:16.680> and<00:58:16.920> have<00:58:17.160> a<00:58:17.339> great<00:58:17.520> holiday thank you all and have a great holiday thank you all and have a great holiday thanks<00:58:19.020> everyone<00:58:19.460> thank<00:58:20.460> you thanks everyone thank you thanks everyone thank you Derek<00:58:22.440> can<00:58:22.559> you<00:58:22.680> stay<00:58:22.800> on<00:58:22.920> for<00:58:23.099> a<00:58:23.220> minute