School Committee

School Committee: September 15, 2023

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The finance subcommittee held an early FY24 budget update, reporting a roughly $157,000 surplus in out-of-district tuition and noting that the circuit-breaker revolving fund has been fully maximized for the first time in four years. The committee discussed the FY25 budget planning process, anticipating a structural deficit driven by shrinking free cash and rising contractual obligations under Proposition 2½ constraints. Members called for a new cost-accountability budget model that would include indirect personnel costs such as health insurance, and a building-by-building staffing analysis, with a joint meeting with the Finance Committee targeted for October.

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FY24 out-of-district tuition shows $157K surplus; circuit-breaker fund fully maxed for first time

The district prepaid nearly $540,000 in collaborative tuitions last year and has finally built the circuit-breaker revolving fund to the maximum one-year carry-forward allowed by the state.

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The CFO (referred to as Emma/Amber) and the business manager (Michelle) reported that FY24 out-of-district placements currently show a $157,000 unspent balance against a $3.7 million budget, with actual costs running at approximately $3.5 million.

Two notable financial accomplishments were highlighted:

  1. Circuit-breaker revolving fund — After four years of effort, the district has for the first time carried forward the maximum allowable one year of circuit-breaker revenue (roughly $1.2 million). This provides an insurance reserve for unexpected special-education costs.
  2. Prepaid tuitions — Using FY23 surplus funds, the district prepaid nearly $540,000 in collaborative tuitions, creating a recurring buffer against volatile out-of-district costs.

A $94,000 transfer was noted from the unemployment line (which had excess funds because most of the 33 cut positions resulted in resignations rather than layoffs) to cover a superintendent separation-pay line.

Transportation costs for out-of-district placements were flagged as a historically volatile line; the cost grew from roughly $300,000–$400,000 four years ago to over $1 million last year. Final transportation figures for FY24 were not yet available as placement was still ongoing.

Sarah (School Committee Chair) · Michelle (Business Manager/CFO) · Emma/Amber (Finance staff) · Jen Schaffner (School Committee member)

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FY25 budget planning begins with call for cost-accountability model and joint FinCom meeting in October

Committee members pressed for a building-level personnel analysis and full inclusion of indirect costs like health insurance, anticipating a larger structural gap than FY24 given declining free cash and pending contract negotiations.

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The subcommittee shifted to FY25 budget planning. Key themes:

Timeline

  • Budget packets to be sent to principals in October (targeting mid-January budget book release, consistent with last year).
  • A meeting with the Select Board chair, Town Administrator, and Finance Director is scheduled for the following Friday to kick off planning.
  • A joint meeting with the Finance Committee is targeted for the second week of October.
  • A subcommittee-only follow-up session was proposed for the week after next.

Structural budget gap concern The chair (Sarah) noted that free cash is expected to shrink as the town’s insurance and revenue lines come in closer to actuals, creating a larger structural cliff than in FY24. She indicated that by mid-October the district should know its maximum allowable levy under Prop 2½ and the delta versus contractual obligations — without taking a position on whether an override is needed.

Cost-accountability budget model A committee member (Jen) called for a “cost-accountability budget” that would:

  • Account for every personnel position by building, matched to student needs.
  • Include indirect costs (primarily health insurance and retirement) currently carried by the town’s general fund.
  • Provide multi-year historical trend data on health insurance spending (town-side and school-side) — data the committee said it has not previously received in usable form.

Michelle noted that medical insurance is the dominant indirect cost driver; teacher retirement is paid through the state MTRS system, and the district’s own contributory retirement obligation covers custodians, clerical staff, and full-time tutors.

Health insurance / GIC The committee discussed needing a breakdown of GIC plan enrollment (individual vs. family, specific plans) and historical actuals to build projections. A committee member noted this would be “another whole budgeting exercise” layered on top of the normal budget build.

Other items

  • A potential employee buyout program was floated as a way to manage long-term personnel costs; noted as a contract-year issue.
  • The school administration’s lack of a seat at the table for municipal employee union (MMEU) negotiations was raised as a concern if the school is to bear indirect MMEU costs going forward.
  • Chapter 70 funding mechanics were discussed; the district receives it via town appropriation, with the actual figure sometimes not confirmed until July.

Sarah (School Committee Chair) · Michelle (Business Manager) · Jen Schaffner (School Committee member) · Alec (referenced, Town side)

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3:47 okay what I did was I signed on to my okay what I did was I signed on to my phone<00:03:47.640> for<00:03:47.940> the<00:03:48.120> audio<00:03:48.420> exactly<00:03:49.379> that<00:03:50.159> will phone for the audio exactly that will phone for the audio exactly that will work<00:03:50.459> let's<00:03:50.819> try<00:03:51.060> it<00:03:51.239> again work let’s try it again work let’s try it again all<00:03:53.220> right all right all right is<00:03:54.959> that<00:03:55.019> better<00:03:55.200> Sarah is that better Sarah is that better Sarah that’s<00:03:56.640> perfect<00:03:56.819> sorry<00:03:57.120> about<00:03:57.299> that<00:03:57.540> no<00:03:58.019> no that’s perfect sorry about that no no that’s perfect sorry about that no no worries<00:03:58.440> I<00:03:58.739> just<00:03:58.920> want<00:03:59.159> to<00:03:59.280> make<00:03:59.340> sure<00:03:59.459> that worries I just want to make sure that worries I just want to make sure that you<00:03:59.760> can<00:03:59.819> hear you can hear you can hear um um um so<00:04:02.760> out<00:04:03.180> of<00:04:03.360> District<00:04:03.540> placement<00:04:04.140> wise<00:04:04.620> we<00:04:05.040> are so out of District placement wise we are so out of District placement wise we are in<00:04:05.640> pretty<00:04:06.000> good<00:04:06.299> shape in pretty good shape in pretty good shape um um um we<00:04:09.120> didn't<00:04:09.560> fix<00:04:10.560> placeholders<00:04:11.480> in<00:04:12.480> the<00:04:13.080> budget we didn’t fix placeholders in the budget we didn’t fix placeholders in the budget and<00:04:14.040> we<00:04:14.220> do<00:04:14.459> have and we do have and we do have um a<00:04:16.260> good<00:04:16.320> number um a good number um a good number um<00:04:17.639> about<00:04:18.239> seven<00:04:18.660> or<00:04:18.900> So<00:04:19.079> currently um about seven or So currently um about seven or So currently unassigned<00:04:20.400> placements unassigned placements unassigned placements two<00:04:22.019> that<00:04:22.320> weren't<00:04:22.620> originally<00:04:23.040> intended<00:04:23.580> as two that weren’t originally intended as two that weren’t originally intended as placeholders<00:04:24.600> but<00:04:24.780> we<00:04:24.900> had<00:04:25.020> students<00:04:25.440> meet placeholders but we had students meet placeholders but we had students meet graduation<00:04:26.220> requirements graduation requirements graduation requirements um<00:04:27.780> after<00:04:28.259> the<00:04:28.979> budget<00:04:29.280> was<00:04:29.460> put<00:04:29.580> together<00:04:29.759> so um after the budget was put together so um after the budget was put together so we<00:04:30.300> have<00:04:30.360> a<00:04:30.479> little<00:04:30.600> bit<00:04:30.720> of<00:04:30.840> savings<00:04:31.199> there

4:32 we have a little bit of savings there we have a little bit of savings there um um um but<00:04:34.020> otherwise<00:04:34.440> we<00:04:35.160> are<00:04:35.400> have<00:04:35.759> currently<00:04:36.600> with but otherwise we are have currently with but otherwise we are have currently with our<00:04:37.380> currently<00:04:37.680> enrolled<00:04:38.160> students our currently enrolled students our currently enrolled students um um um a<00:04:41.940> current<00:04:42.180> Surplus<00:04:42.720> against<00:04:42.960> the<00:04:43.199> budget<00:04:43.440> of a current Surplus against the budget of a current Surplus against the budget of about<00:04:43.740> 157<00:04:44.639> thousand<00:04:45.180> dollars about 157 thousand dollars about 157 thousand dollars of<00:04:47.160> total<00:04:47.580> expense<00:04:48.000> we<00:04:48.540> were<00:04:48.720> able<00:04:49.080> last<00:04:49.440> year of total expense we were able last year of total expense we were able last year to<00:04:49.979> prepay to prepay to prepay um just<00:04:51.540> shy<00:04:51.900> of<00:04:52.460> 540<00:04:53.639> 000<00:04:53.820> in<00:04:54.300> collaborative um just shy of 540 000 in collaborative um just shy of 540 000 in collaborative tuitions<00:04:55.699> the<00:04:56.699> intent<00:04:57.060> is<00:04:57.479> that<00:04:57.840> we<00:04:58.139> will<00:04:58.380> be tuitions the intent is that we will be tuitions the intent is that we will be able<00:04:58.919> to<00:04:59.580> use<00:05:00.479> the<00:05:00.720> money<00:05:00.900> that<00:05:01.740> is<00:05:02.520> saved<00:05:02.940> from able to use the money that is saved from able to use the money that is saved from their<00:05:03.419> prepayment their prepayment their prepayment um<00:05:05.280> at<00:05:05.460> the<00:05:05.520> end<00:05:05.639> of<00:05:05.759> last<00:05:05.940> year<00:05:06.120> at<00:05:06.419> the<00:05:06.540> end<00:05:06.600> of um at the end of last year at the end of um at the end of last year at the end of this<00:05:06.840> year<00:05:06.960> to<00:05:07.139> prepay<00:05:07.560> tuitions<00:05:08.160> again<00:05:08.340> going this year to prepay tuitions again going this year to prepay tuitions again going forward<00:05:09.120> and<00:05:09.540> basically<00:05:09.840> have<00:05:10.320> that<00:05:10.860> Security forward and basically have that Security forward and basically have that Security net<00:05:11.759> prepayment<00:05:12.900> um<00:05:12.960> in<00:05:13.139> perpetuity net prepayment um in perpetuity net prepayment um in perpetuity um<00:05:15.120> the<00:05:15.479> other<00:05:15.540> sort<00:05:15.840> of<00:05:15.900> notable<00:05:16.320> change<00:05:16.680> is um the other sort of notable change is um the other sort of notable change is that<00:05:17.639> we<00:05:18.060> were<00:05:18.300> able<00:05:18.660> to<00:05:19.199> maximize<00:05:20.040> our

5:20 that we were able to maximize our that we were able to maximize our circuit<00:05:20.580> breaker circuit breaker circuit breaker um<00:05:22.380> fund<00:05:23.160> carry<00:05:23.580> forward<00:05:23.759> which<00:05:24.660> means<00:05:25.139> that um fund carry forward which means that um fund carry forward which means that and<00:05:26.100> because<00:05:26.280> we<00:05:26.580> can<00:05:26.699> only<00:05:26.880> hold<00:05:27.240> in<00:05:27.600> the and because we can only hold in the and because we can only hold in the revolving<00:05:28.139> fund<00:05:28.680> one<00:05:29.100> year's<00:05:29.580> worth<00:05:29.940> of revolving fund one year’s worth of revolving fund one year’s worth of income<00:05:30.960> we<00:05:31.919> will<00:05:32.039> have<00:05:32.220> an<00:05:32.460> additional<00:05:32.759> about income we will have an additional about income we will have an additional about fifty<00:05:33.539> thousand<00:05:33.900> dollars<00:05:34.199> just<00:05:34.560> over fifty thousand dollars just over fifty thousand dollars just over um<00:05:35.759> that<00:05:35.940> we<00:05:36.060> will<00:05:36.180> have<00:05:36.419> to<00:05:36.600> pay<00:05:36.840> through um that we will have to pay through um that we will have to pay through circuit<00:05:37.620> breaker circuit breaker circuit breaker um<00:05:38.699> as<00:05:39.000> well um as well um as well um um um so<00:05:42.360> there<00:05:42.780> will<00:05:42.900> be<00:05:43.020> at<00:05:43.199> least<00:05:43.320> a<00:05:43.680> little<00:05:43.740> bit so there will be at least a little bit so there will be at least a little bit of<00:05:44.100> savings<00:05:44.460> against<00:05:44.820> what<00:05:45.240> was<00:05:45.419> originally of savings against what was originally of savings against what was originally intended<00:05:46.320> for<00:05:46.560> the<00:05:46.680> general<00:05:46.800> fund<00:05:47.280> budget intended for the general fund budget intended for the general fund budget okay<00:05:49.560> so<00:05:49.860> can<00:05:50.039> I<00:05:50.220> ask<00:05:50.340> a<00:05:50.460> quick<00:05:50.639> question<00:05:50.820> this okay so can I ask a quick question this okay so can I ask a quick question this is<00:05:51.300> Jen<00:05:51.660> Schaffner

5:58 um so if we’re using so we prepaid with um so if we’re using so we prepaid with our<00:05:58.440> Surplus<00:05:58.919> from<00:05:59.100> fy23<00:05:59.880> we<00:06:00.180> prepaid<00:06:00.780> out<00:06:01.080> of our Surplus from fy23 we prepaid out of our Surplus from fy23 we prepaid out of District<00:06:01.259> placements<00:06:01.919> and<00:06:02.160> it<00:06:02.580> sounds<00:06:03.000> like District placements and it sounds like District placements and it sounds like what<00:06:03.360> I<00:06:03.479> just<00:06:03.600> heard<00:06:03.720> is<00:06:03.960> the<00:06:04.620> plan<00:06:04.800> is<00:06:04.979> to<00:06:05.160> do what I just heard is the plan is to do what I just heard is the plan is to do the<00:06:05.699> same<00:06:05.820> thing<00:06:06.360> to<00:06:06.600> just<00:06:06.840> carry<00:06:07.199> forward the same thing to just carry forward the same thing to just carry forward that<00:06:07.740> Surplus<00:06:08.100> into<00:06:08.400> prepayment

6:14 so were we so we have some other so were we so we have some other unforeseen unforeseen unforeseen um<00:06:16.139> costs<00:06:16.860> around<00:06:17.520> the<00:06:17.820> superintendent<00:06:18.539> and um costs around the superintendent and um costs around the superintendent and so<00:06:19.259> and<00:06:19.500> maybe<00:06:19.680> you'll<00:06:19.919> speak<00:06:20.039> to<00:06:20.160> this so and maybe you’ll speak to this so and maybe you’ll speak to this separately<00:06:20.639> but<00:06:20.880> do<00:06:21.060> we<00:06:21.300> have<00:06:21.539> a<00:06:22.199> line<00:06:22.380> item separately but do we have a line item separately but do we have a line item for<00:06:22.860> that<00:06:23.039> or<00:06:23.340> we<00:06:23.520> have<00:06:23.699> a<00:06:23.940> you<00:06:24.240> know<00:06:24.360> a<00:06:25.139> source for that or we have a you know a source for that or we have a you know a source for<00:06:25.740> that<00:06:25.979> additional<00:06:26.639> cost<00:06:26.880> this<00:06:27.180> year for that additional cost this year for that additional cost this year Michelle Michelle Michelle what<00:06:29.280> we're<00:06:29.520> doing<00:06:29.699> right<00:06:30.000> now<00:06:30.240> is<00:06:30.600> we're what we’re doing right now is we’re what we’re doing right now is we’re anticipating<00:06:31.500> obviously<00:06:31.860> we<00:06:32.039> have<00:06:32.160> the anticipating obviously we have the anticipating obviously we have the superintendent’s<00:06:33.000> salary<00:06:33.120> line superintendent’s salary line superintendent’s salary line um<00:06:34.259> that<00:06:34.560> will<00:06:34.680> not<00:06:34.860> be<00:06:35.160> fully<00:06:35.520> expended um that will not be fully expended um that will not be fully expended unless<00:06:36.360> we<00:06:37.139> hire<00:06:37.440> someone unless we hire someone unless we hire someone um<00:06:38.580> that<00:06:39.000> is<00:06:39.120> paid<00:06:39.300> higher<00:06:39.600> than<00:06:39.780> the<00:06:39.960> previous um that is paid higher than the previous um that is paid higher than the previous superintendent<00:06:41.060> so<00:06:42.060> but<00:06:42.840> we're<00:06:43.199> paying<00:06:43.319> we're superintendent so but we’re paying we’re superintendent so but we’re paying we’re paying<00:06:43.919> the<00:06:44.100> previous<00:06:44.280> superintendent<00:06:45.060> right paying the previous superintendent right paying the previous superintendent right now<00:06:46.699> like<00:06:47.699> yeah<00:06:48.180> through<00:06:48.900> December<00:06:49.319> 31st<00:06:50.220> um now like yeah through December 31st um now like yeah through December 31st um if<00:06:50.460> we<00:06:50.580> hire<00:06:50.819> someone if we hire someone if we hire someone around<00:06:52.560> the<00:06:52.860> same<00:06:53.039> time<00:06:53.340> at<00:06:53.940> a<00:06:54.180> lesser<00:06:54.600> salary around the same time at a lesser salary around the same time at a lesser salary than<00:06:55.620> that<00:06:56.100> won't<00:06:56.280> have<00:06:56.520> any<00:06:57.000> impact<00:06:57.300> on<00:06:57.539> that than that won’t have any impact on that than that won’t have any impact on that line<00:06:57.840> or<00:06:58.259> equal<00:06:58.500> or<00:06:58.800> lesser

6:59 line or equal or lesser line or equal or lesser um<00:07:00.000> so<00:07:00.720> the<00:07:01.319> the<00:07:01.800> lump<00:07:02.699> sum<00:07:03.000> payment<00:07:03.180> to<00:07:03.720> the um so the the lump sum payment to the um so the the lump sum payment to the superintendent<00:07:04.500> is<00:07:04.680> going<00:07:04.860> to<00:07:04.979> come<00:07:05.160> out<00:07:05.400> well superintendent is going to come out well superintendent is going to come out well we’re<00:07:06.060> going<00:07:06.240> to<00:07:06.300> set<00:07:06.479> up<00:07:06.600> a<00:07:06.780> separate<00:07:07.020> line we’re going to set up a separate line we’re going to set up a separate line um<00:07:08.220> and<00:07:08.460> that<00:07:08.639> will<00:07:08.880> come<00:07:09.300> or<00:07:09.840> be<00:07:10.080> called um and that will come or be called um and that will come or be called separation<00:07:10.979> pay<00:07:11.580> basically<00:07:12.060> we<00:07:12.300> do<00:07:12.419> have<00:07:12.539> a separation pay basically we do have a separation pay basically we do have a line<00:07:12.900> called<00:07:13.139> separation<00:07:13.560> pay<00:07:13.800> that<00:07:14.039> we<00:07:14.220> don't line called separation pay that we don’t line called separation pay that we don’t typically<00:07:14.759> fund typically fund typically fund um<00:07:16.259> but<00:07:16.440> we<00:07:16.560> will<00:07:16.680> put<00:07:16.860> money<00:07:17.039> into<00:07:17.340> that<00:07:17.699> from um but we will put money into that from um but we will put money into that from the<00:07:18.300> unemployment<00:07:18.780> account the unemployment account the unemployment account um<00:07:20.039> right<00:07:20.280> now<00:07:20.460> we<00:07:20.759> have<00:07:20.880> a<00:07:21.240> sizable<00:07:22.139> budget<00:07:22.979> in um right now we have a sizable budget in um right now we have a sizable budget in the<00:07:23.460> unemployment<00:07:23.880> line<00:07:24.180> item<00:07:24.599> which<00:07:25.139> we the unemployment line item which we the unemployment line item which we intended<00:07:25.919> to<00:07:26.580> cover<00:07:27.000> the<00:07:27.780> layoffs<00:07:28.440> of<00:07:28.740> a<00:07:28.979> lot intended to cover the layoffs of a lot intended to cover the layoffs of a lot of<00:07:29.220> the<00:07:29.340> positions<00:07:29.759> that<00:07:29.940> needed<00:07:30.120> to<00:07:30.240> be<00:07:30.300> cut of the positions that needed to be cut of the positions that needed to be cut with<00:07:30.599> the<00:07:30.720> override<00:07:31.080> and<00:07:31.560> because<00:07:31.740> most<00:07:32.280> of with the override and because most of with the override and because most of those<00:07:32.699> employees<00:07:33.740> resigned<00:07:34.740> on<00:07:34.919> their<00:07:35.099> own those employees resigned on their own those employees resigned on their own um<00:07:36.060> because<00:07:36.240> they<00:07:36.479> knew<00:07:36.720> their<00:07:36.840> positions um because they knew their positions um because they knew their positions were<00:07:37.740> you<00:07:38.160> know<00:07:38.220> in<00:07:38.520> Jeopardy were you know in Jeopardy were you know in Jeopardy um<00:07:39.720> we<00:07:40.139> do<00:07:40.319> not<00:07:40.440> have<00:07:40.860> to<00:07:40.979> pay<00:07:41.099> the um we do not have to pay the um we do not have to pay the unemployment<00:07:41.759> costs<00:07:42.539> okay<00:07:43.020> so<00:07:43.280> we<00:07:44.280> have<00:07:44.400> a unemployment costs okay so we have a unemployment costs okay so we have a couple<00:07:44.699> more<00:07:45.419> than<00:07:45.599> a<00:07:45.780> couple<00:07:45.900> hundred

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10:52 it’s great financial practice it’s it’s great financial practice it’s giving<00:10:52.320> us<00:10:52.620> this<00:10:53.220> insurance<00:10:53.399> policy<00:10:54.120> that<00:10:54.480> we giving us this insurance policy that we giving us this insurance policy that we at<00:10:54.899> least<00:10:55.019> have<00:10:55.500> that<00:10:55.740> money<00:10:55.980> on<00:10:56.820> hand<00:10:57.140> and<00:10:58.140> if at least have that money on hand and if at least have that money on hand and if something<00:10:58.980> really<00:10:59.459> went<00:10:59.700> awry<00:11:00.060> we<00:11:00.600> could something really went awry we could something really went awry we could always<00:11:00.959> borrow<00:11:01.320> the<00:11:01.680> not<00:11:01.920> borrow<00:11:02.220> but<00:11:02.579> utilize always borrow the not borrow but utilize always borrow the not borrow but utilize the<00:11:03.540> current<00:11:03.720> Year's<00:11:04.260> funding<00:11:04.620> as<00:11:04.800> well<00:11:04.980> so the current Year’s funding as well so the current Year’s funding as well so obviously<00:11:06.120> that<00:11:06.360> doesn't<00:11:06.480> put<00:11:06.720> you<00:11:06.839> in<00:11:06.959> a<00:11:07.079> good obviously that doesn’t put you in a good obviously that doesn’t put you in a good place<00:11:07.320> for<00:11:07.620> the<00:11:07.800> following<00:11:08.100> fiscal<00:11:08.519> year<00:11:08.760> but place for the following fiscal year but place for the following fiscal year but it<00:11:10.260> would<00:11:10.380> give<00:11:10.560> us<00:11:10.680> a<00:11:10.920> little<00:11:10.980> bit<00:11:11.160> of<00:11:11.279> time<00:11:11.459> to it would give us a little bit of time to it would give us a little bit of time to plan<00:11:12.000> for<00:11:12.540> the<00:11:13.079> following<00:11:13.380> year<00:11:13.620> if<00:11:13.980> if<00:11:14.339> some plan for the following year if if some plan for the following year if if some if<00:11:15.839> some<00:11:16.800> unforeseen<00:11:17.899> significant<00:11:18.899> costs if some unforeseen significant costs if some unforeseen significant costs came<00:11:19.560> our<00:11:19.740> way<00:11:19.920> that<00:11:20.220> are<00:11:20.339> specifically<00:11:20.880> in came our way that are specifically in came our way that are specifically in the<00:11:21.240> area<00:11:21.360> of<00:11:21.660> special<00:11:21.899> education the area of special education the area of special education because<00:11:23.820> they<00:11:24.120> have<00:11:24.300> to<00:11:24.360> be<00:11:24.480> used<00:11:24.660> on<00:11:24.899> special because they have to be used on special because they have to be used on special education<00:11:25.620> costs we’ve been able to do that the second we’ve been able to do that the second thing<00:11:31.079> we've<00:11:31.320> been<00:11:31.440> able<00:11:31.680> to<00:11:31.800> do<00:11:32.519> um<00:11:32.579> that<00:11:32.880> is thing we’ve been able to do um that is thing we’ve been able to do um that is also<00:11:33.300> the<00:11:33.660> fourth<00:11:33.899> year<00:11:34.019> in<00:11:34.200> the<00:11:34.320> making<00:11:34.440> is also the fourth year in the making is also the fourth year in the making is prepaid<00:11:35.160> tuitions prepaid tuitions prepaid tuitions um<00:11:36.720> so<00:11:36.839> some<00:11:37.019> of<00:11:37.200> our<00:11:37.260> out<00:11:37.500> of<00:11:37.620> District

11:37 um so some of our out of District um so some of our out of District tuitions<00:11:38.399> we<00:11:38.640> can<00:11:38.760> prepay<00:11:39.240> this<00:11:40.200> year<00:11:40.339> we've tuitions we can prepay this year we’ve tuitions we can prepay this year we’ve been<00:11:41.459> able<00:11:41.640> to<00:11:41.760> do<00:11:41.940> that<00:11:42.120> to<00:11:42.300> the<00:11:42.420> tune<00:11:42.540> of been able to do that to the tune of been able to do that to the tune of almost<00:11:43.019> 540<00:11:44.100> 000<00:11:44.220> which<00:11:44.459> was<00:11:44.640> amazing almost 540 000 which was amazing almost 540 000 which was amazing um really<00:11:46.680> and<00:11:47.040> this<00:11:47.339> is<00:11:47.519> not<00:11:47.760> necessarily um really and this is not necessarily um really and this is not necessarily budgeted<00:11:48.839> we<00:11:49.079> never<00:11:49.380> budget<00:11:49.800> for<00:11:50.040> a budgeted we never budget for a budgeted we never budget for a prepayment<00:11:50.640> it's<00:11:50.820> just<00:11:51.000> if<00:11:51.180> we<00:11:51.360> have<00:11:51.480> extra prepayment it’s just if we have extra prepayment it’s just if we have extra money<00:11:52.019> in<00:11:52.500> June<00:11:52.860> when<00:11:53.040> we're<00:11:53.220> closing<00:11:53.519> our money in June when we’re closing our money in June when we’re closing our books<00:11:53.940> we<00:11:54.180> try<00:11:54.300> to<00:11:54.420> prepay<00:11:54.779> those<00:11:54.959> tuitions<00:11:55.500> to books we try to prepay those tuitions to books we try to prepay those tuitions to give<00:11:55.860> us<00:11:56.040> that<00:11:56.339> extra<00:11:56.579> insurance<00:11:57.060> policy give us that extra insurance policy give us that extra insurance policy so<00:11:58.980> when<00:11:59.220> we're<00:11:59.339> looking<00:11:59.519> at<00:11:59.760> these<00:12:00.000> tuitions so when we’re looking at these tuitions so when we’re looking at these tuitions right<00:12:00.720> now right now right now um<00:12:02.040> so<00:12:02.220> if<00:12:02.459> you<00:12:02.579> look<00:12:02.760> at<00:12:02.880> the<00:12:03.060> second<00:12:03.240> page um so if you look at the second page um so if you look at the second page here<00:12:04.019> we<00:12:04.860> budgeted<00:12:05.459> or<00:12:06.000> planned<00:12:06.360> for<00:12:06.540> 3.7 here we budgeted or planned for 3.7 here we budgeted or planned for 3.7 million<00:12:07.740> dollars<00:12:07.980> in<00:12:08.160> out<00:12:08.399> of<00:12:08.519> District million dollars in out of District million dollars in out of District tuitions tuitions tuitions um<00:12:10.380> right<00:12:10.740> now<00:12:10.860> our<00:12:11.279> actual<00:12:11.700> costs<00:12:12.120> knowing um right now our actual costs knowing um right now our actual costs knowing what<00:12:12.779> students<00:12:13.079> are<00:12:13.260> placed<00:12:13.620> where<00:12:13.800> and<00:12:14.220> best what students are placed where and best what students are placed where and best can<00:12:14.760> change<00:12:14.940> at<00:12:15.300> any<00:12:15.660> time can change at any time can change at any time um<00:12:16.920> our<00:12:17.100> total<00:12:17.399> right<00:12:17.519> now<00:12:17.640> is<00:12:17.760> 3.5<00:12:18.120> million<00:12:18.779> so um our total right now is 3.5 million so um our total right now is 3.5 million so right<00:12:19.440> now<00:12:19.620> we<00:12:20.339> have<00:12:20.579> not<00:12:21.060> a<00:12:21.240> surplus<00:12:21.660> but right now we have not a surplus but right now we have not a surplus but available

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13:10 associated Transportation costs because associated Transportation costs because I<00:13:11.100> know<00:13:11.279> sometimes<00:13:11.760> it<00:13:12.300> costs<00:13:12.600> us<00:13:12.720> more<00:13:12.899> to I know sometimes it costs us more to I know sometimes it costs us more to transport<00:13:13.500> a<00:13:13.740> student<00:13:13.980> to<00:13:14.339> actually<00:13:14.639> educate transport a student to actually educate transport a student to actually educate them them them yes yes yes um<00:13:18.000> if<00:13:18.180> that<00:13:18.360> is<00:13:18.480> another<00:13:18.720> area<00:13:19.079> that<00:13:19.560> has um if that is another area that has um if that is another area that has skyrocketed<00:13:20.579> in<00:13:20.760> recent<00:13:21.120> years skyrocketed in recent years skyrocketed in recent years um<00:13:22.620> we<00:13:23.220> don't<00:13:23.399> have<00:13:23.760> the<00:13:24.000> specific<00:13:24.300> cost<00:13:24.720> yet um we don’t have the specific cost yet um we don’t have the specific cost yet literally<00:13:25.440> we're<00:13:25.680> still<00:13:25.920> placing<00:13:26.279> some<00:13:26.459> kids literally we’re still placing some kids literally we’re still placing some kids on<00:13:26.820> the<00:13:26.940> buses<00:13:27.380> so<00:13:28.380> we're<00:13:28.860> I<00:13:29.100> think<00:13:29.279> we<00:13:29.399> have on the buses so we’re I think we have on the buses so we’re I think we have one<00:13:29.700> just<00:13:29.820> starting<00:13:30.060> on<00:13:30.300> Monday<00:13:30.420> so<00:13:31.079> we're one just starting on Monday so we’re one just starting on Monday so we’re trying<00:13:32.040> to<00:13:32.399> identify<00:13:33.060> what<00:13:33.660> those<00:13:33.839> true<00:13:34.079> costs trying to identify what those true costs trying to identify what those true costs are<00:13:34.560> versus<00:13:34.800> our<00:13:35.100> budget<00:13:35.339> so<00:13:35.519> we<00:13:35.700> will<00:13:35.820> have are versus our budget so we will have are versus our budget so we will have more<00:13:36.240> information<00:13:36.420> next<00:13:37.019> month<00:13:37.200> but<00:13:37.680> that<00:13:37.860> is more information next month but that is more information next month but that is another<00:13:38.279> area<00:13:38.700> that<00:13:39.480> has<00:13:39.779> historically<00:13:40.380> cost another area that has historically cost another area that has historically cost us<00:13:40.980> a<00:13:41.339> lot<00:13:41.459> more<00:13:41.760> than<00:13:41.940> we<00:13:42.120> anticipated us a lot more than we anticipated us a lot more than we anticipated um<00:13:43.560> we're<00:13:43.740> hoping<00:13:44.040> we're<00:13:44.339> close<00:13:44.639> to<00:13:44.820> our um we’re hoping we’re close to our um we’re hoping we’re close to our budget<00:13:45.300> this<00:13:45.540> year<00:13:45.660> but budget this year but budget this year but um<00:13:46.860> there's<00:13:47.100> no<00:13:47.339> guarantee<00:13:47.700> at<00:13:47.820> this<00:13:48.000> point um there’s no guarantee at this point um there’s no guarantee at this point we’re<00:13:48.300> really<00:13:48.600> early<00:13:48.839> on<00:13:49.019> in<00:13:49.200> the<00:13:49.320> year<00:13:49.440> we're we’re really early on in the year we’re we’re really early on in the year we’re only<00:13:49.920> in<00:13:50.100> our<00:13:50.279> second<00:13:50.399> year<00:13:50.579> of<00:13:50.820> I<00:13:51.480> mean<00:13:51.600> a only in our second year of I mean a only in our second year of I mean a second<00:13:51.839> week<00:13:52.139> of<00:13:52.320> school<00:13:52.500> at<00:13:52.740> this<00:13:52.920> point<00:13:53.100> yeah second week of school at this point yeah second week of school at this point yeah that’s<00:13:54.300> why<00:13:54.420> I'm<00:13:54.600> looking<00:13:54.779> at<00:13:55.500> some<00:13:55.860> of<00:13:56.040> this

13:56 that’s why I’m looking at some of this that’s why I’m looking at some of this um<00:13:57.360> Thief<00:13:57.899> guard<00:13:58.139> that<00:13:58.440> you<00:13:58.620> created<00:13:58.920> by<00:13:59.279> Best um Thief guard that you created by Best um Thief guard that you created by Best Practices<00:14:00.260> could<00:14:01.260> help<00:14:01.620> stabilize<00:14:02.339> some<00:14:02.760> of Practices could help stabilize some of Practices could help stabilize some of the<00:14:03.000> volatility<00:14:03.420> in<00:14:03.839> those<00:14:03.959> Transportation the volatility in those Transportation the volatility in those Transportation lines<00:14:04.980> as<00:14:05.220> well<00:14:05.940> absolutely<00:14:06.720> and<00:14:07.079> that's lines as well absolutely and that’s lines as well absolutely and that’s something<00:14:07.500> we<00:14:07.860> have<00:14:08.100> found something we have found something we have found um<00:14:10.800> you<00:14:11.220> know<00:14:11.339> when<00:14:11.459> I<00:14:11.820> when<00:14:12.000> I<00:14:12.180> came<00:14:12.300> on<00:14:12.480> board um you know when I when I came on board um you know when I when I came on board about<00:14:12.899> four<00:14:13.139> years<00:14:13.320> ago<00:14:13.620> I<00:14:13.800> think<00:14:13.920> we<00:14:14.100> were about four years ago I think we were about four years ago I think we were roughly<00:14:15.060> budgeting<00:14:15.779> three<00:14:15.959> to<00:14:16.139> four<00:14:16.320> hundred roughly budgeting three to four hundred roughly budgeting three to four hundred thousand<00:14:16.980> dollars<00:14:17.220> in<00:14:17.399> out<00:14:17.579> of<00:14:17.700> District thousand dollars in out of District thousand dollars in out of District tuition<00:14:18.300> I<00:14:18.660> mean<00:14:18.779> transportation<00:14:19.380> for<00:14:20.040> these tuition I mean transportation for these tuition I mean transportation for these placements placements placements um<00:14:22.320> last<00:14:22.740> year<00:14:22.920> it<00:14:23.100> cost<00:14:23.279> us<00:14:23.459> over<00:14:23.639> a<00:14:23.820> million um last year it cost us over a million um last year it cost us over a million dollars dollars dollars um<00:14:25.440> so<00:14:25.740> that<00:14:26.100> that<00:14:26.399> number<00:14:26.700> has<00:14:27.180> just um so that that number has just um so that that number has just increased<00:14:28.200> significantly increased significantly increased significantly um<00:14:30.060> and<00:14:30.600> I<00:14:30.779> don't<00:14:30.899> think<00:14:31.139> our<00:14:31.380> transportation um and I don’t think our transportation um and I don’t think our transportation needs<00:14:32.519> have<00:14:32.700> necessarily<00:14:33.440> increased<00:14:34.440> it's needs have necessarily increased it’s needs have necessarily increased it’s just<00:14:34.920> the<00:14:35.160> cost<00:14:35.339> it's<00:14:35.700> the<00:14:35.880> demand<00:14:36.120> of<00:14:36.300> the just the cost it’s the demand of the just the cost it’s the demand of the drivers<00:14:36.839> the<00:14:37.019> demand<00:14:37.320> of<00:14:37.560> the<00:14:37.860> the drivers the demand of the the drivers the demand of the the contractors contractors contractors um<00:14:40.139> so<00:14:40.500> it<00:14:40.620> is<00:14:40.740> it's<00:14:40.980> it's<00:14:41.100> a<00:14:41.579> cost<00:14:41.760> that's

14:42 um so it is it’s it’s a cost that’s um so it is it’s it’s a cost that’s really<00:14:42.600> tough<00:14:43.380> to<00:14:43.620> nail<00:14:43.800> down<00:14:44.100> until<00:14:44.399> we really tough to nail down until we really tough to nail down until we actually<00:14:45.000> have<00:14:45.420> contracted actually have contracted actually have contracted um<00:14:48.180> rates<00:14:48.600> in<00:14:48.779> our<00:14:48.899> hands<00:14:49.199> and<00:14:49.500> and<00:14:49.740> even<00:14:50.040> then um rates in our hands and and even then um rates in our hands and and even then kids<00:14:51.060> move<00:14:51.480> situations<00:14:52.260> change<00:14:52.740> some<00:14:53.279> kids<00:14:53.519> go kids move situations change some kids go kids move situations change some kids go off<00:14:54.300> the<00:14:54.420> bus<00:14:54.540> so<00:14:54.779> we're<00:14:54.959> no<00:14:55.079> longer<00:14:55.320> splitting off the bus so we’re no longer splitting off the bus so we’re no longer splitting the<00:14:55.740> cost<00:14:55.860> between<00:14:56.100> two<00:14:56.399> or<00:14:56.519> three<00:14:56.699> students the cost between two or three students the cost between two or three students we<00:14:57.120> have<00:14:57.240> to<00:14:57.360> find<00:14:57.540> another<00:14:57.839> provider<00:14:58.380> to we have to find another provider to we have to find another provider to transport<00:14:58.800> another<00:14:59.040> student<00:14:59.399> so<00:14:59.579> it's<00:14:59.760> a<00:15:00.000> very transport another student so it’s a very transport another student so it’s a very volatile<00:15:00.720> cost<00:15:01.079> that<00:15:01.800> is<00:15:01.920> tough<00:15:02.160> to<00:15:02.279> nail<00:15:02.459> down volatile cost that is tough to nail down volatile cost that is tough to nail down so<00:15:03.180> this<00:15:03.540> is so this is so this is it<00:15:04.680> makes<00:15:04.920> it<00:15:05.100> that<00:15:05.220> much<00:15:05.339> easier<00:15:05.699> that<00:15:06.000> we it makes it that much easier that we it makes it that much easier that we have<00:15:06.600> some<00:15:07.139> safeguards<00:15:07.740> in<00:15:07.860> place have some safeguards in place have some safeguards in place for<00:15:09.120> these<00:15:09.420> costs<00:15:09.779> that<00:15:09.899> are<00:15:10.079> truly<00:15:10.380> unknown for these costs that are truly unknown for these costs that are truly unknown and<00:15:11.160> truly and truly and truly they’re<00:15:13.620> hard<00:15:13.860> to they’re hard to they’re hard to they’re<00:15:15.180> hard<00:15:15.420> to<00:15:15.600> manage<00:15:15.959> I<00:15:16.560> mean<00:15:16.680> their they’re hard to manage I mean their they’re hard to manage I mean their costs<00:15:17.639> that<00:15:17.760> we<00:15:18.180> need<00:15:18.360> to<00:15:18.600> pay<00:15:18.720> we<00:15:19.019> need<00:15:19.079> to<00:15:19.199> pay costs that we need to pay we need to pay costs that we need to pay we need to pay the<00:15:19.440> tuition<00:15:19.740> we<00:15:19.980> need<00:15:20.100> to<00:15:20.220> pay<00:15:20.339> the the tuition we need to pay the the tuition we need to pay the transportation<00:15:21.000> these<00:15:21.839> are<00:15:21.899> the<00:15:22.019> needs<00:15:22.260> for transportation these are the needs for transportation these are the needs for our<00:15:22.620> kids<00:15:22.740> but<00:15:23.519> they're<00:15:23.820> very<00:15:24.000> hard<00:15:24.180> to our kids but they’re very hard to our kids but they’re very hard to predict

15:29 but we do you have budgeted for it but we do you have budgeted for it correct<00:15:29.660> absolutely<00:15:30.660> yeah correct absolutely yeah correct absolutely yeah absolutely<00:15:33.300> we'll<00:15:33.660> dive<00:15:34.079> into<00:15:34.199> that<00:15:34.440> a<00:15:34.560> little absolutely we’ll dive into that a little absolutely we’ll dive into that a little bit<00:15:34.740> next<00:15:34.920> month<00:15:35.100> when<00:15:35.279> we<00:15:35.399> do<00:15:35.459> the<00:15:35.579> auto bit next month when we do the auto bit next month when we do the auto District<00:15:36.060> tuitions<00:15:36.480> we'll<00:15:36.720> also<00:15:36.959> include<00:15:37.260> the District tuitions we’ll also include the District tuitions we’ll also include the transportation<00:15:37.860> we're<00:15:38.220> just<00:15:38.519> literally transportation we’re just literally transportation we’re just literally still<00:15:39.540> placing<00:15:39.899> kids<00:15:40.079> on<00:15:40.320> buses<00:15:40.680> right<00:15:40.920> now still placing kids on buses right now still placing kids on buses right now okay okay okay yeah<00:15:43.860> and<00:15:44.519> we<00:15:44.699> did<00:15:44.880> this<00:15:45.060> early<00:15:45.600> meeting yeah and we did this early meeting yeah and we did this early meeting because<00:15:46.139> we<00:15:46.320> want<00:15:46.500> to<00:15:46.680> you<00:15:46.740> know<00:15:46.860> be<00:15:47.040> really because we want to you know be really because we want to you know be really proactive<00:15:47.880> last<00:15:48.120> year<00:15:48.360> we<00:15:48.480> had<00:15:48.660> a<00:15:48.899> really<00:15:48.959> good proactive last year we had a really good proactive last year we had a really good experience experience experience um<00:15:51.420> with<00:15:51.839> the<00:15:52.019> approach<00:15:52.260> we<00:15:52.500> took<00:15:52.680> to<00:15:52.920> the um with the approach we took to the um with the approach we took to the budgeting<00:15:53.519> you<00:15:54.360> know<00:15:54.480> process<00:15:54.959> how<00:15:55.320> we<00:15:55.500> were budgeting you know process how we were budgeting you know process how we were out<00:15:56.100> of<00:15:56.220> the<00:15:56.339> gate out of the gate out of the gate um<00:15:57.720> and<00:15:58.260> so<00:15:58.380> we<00:15:58.620> kind<00:15:58.800> of<00:15:58.860> wanted<00:15:59.040> to<00:15:59.339> to<00:15:59.519> get um and so we kind of wanted to to get um and so we kind of wanted to to get together together together to even<00:16:01.740> improve<00:16:02.220> upon<00:16:02.459> those<00:16:02.699> practices to even improve upon those practices to even improve upon those practices again again again so<00:16:05.940> is<00:16:06.120> there<00:16:06.420> more<00:16:07.139> questions<00:16:07.320> on<00:16:07.680> the<00:16:07.800> outer so is there more questions on the outer so is there more questions on the outer District<00:16:08.279> or<00:16:08.699> is<00:16:08.880> there<00:16:09.120> more<00:16:09.540> um<00:16:09.540> or<00:16:09.839> do<00:16:09.959> we District or is there more um or do we District or is there more um or do we move<00:16:10.199> on<00:16:10.380> to<00:16:10.500> the<00:16:10.620> next<00:16:10.800> step<00:16:11.160> of<00:16:11.459> the<00:16:11.579> fy24 move on to the next step of the fy24 move on to the next step of the fy24 update

16:39 you want to move on to the fy24 yeah it you want to move on to the fy24 yeah it looks<00:16:39.300> like<00:16:39.360> she's<00:16:39.540> pulling<00:16:39.839> like<00:16:40.019> I<00:16:40.860> have looks like she’s pulling like I have looks like she’s pulling like I have that<00:16:41.100> look<00:16:41.279> in<00:16:41.459> the<00:16:41.579> screen<00:16:41.699> as<00:16:42.000> someone<00:16:42.180> who's that look in the screen as someone who’s that look in the screen as someone who’s trying<00:16:42.720> to<00:16:42.959> pull<00:16:43.199> up<00:16:43.380> the<00:16:43.620> the<00:16:43.860> document<00:16:44.339> they trying to pull up the the document they trying to pull up the the document they need<00:16:44.759> to<00:16:44.880> screen<00:16:45.060> share need to screen share need to screen share oh oh oh we’re<00:16:49.440> trying<00:16:49.680> to<00:16:49.740> pull<00:16:49.860> up<00:16:49.980> something<00:16:50.160> maybe we’re trying to pull up something maybe we’re trying to pull up something maybe no<00:16:51.660> no no no no no okay<00:16:53.820> all<00:16:54.180> right<00:16:54.360> then<00:16:54.600> yeah<00:16:54.839> let's<00:16:55.440> move<00:16:55.740> on okay all right then yeah let’s move on okay all right then yeah let’s move on to<00:16:56.100> the<00:16:56.220> FY<00:16:56.519> 24<00:16:56.759> update<00:16:57.420> okay<00:16:58.139> sounds<00:16:58.800> great to the FY 24 update okay sounds great to the FY 24 update okay sounds great um<00:17:00.000> really<00:17:00.240> fy24<00:17:01.199> we're<00:17:01.620> just<00:17:01.800> starting<00:17:02.100> to um really fy24 we’re just starting to um really fy24 we’re just starting to um talk<00:17:03.720> about<00:17:03.899> our<00:17:04.620> process<00:17:04.980> our<00:17:05.520> kickoff<00:17:05.959> we um talk about our process our kickoff we um talk about our process our kickoff we have<00:17:07.079> a<00:17:07.199> meeting<00:17:07.380> next<00:17:07.799> week have a meeting next week have a meeting next week um<00:17:08.819> a<00:17:09.059> few<00:17:09.179> of<00:17:09.360> us<00:17:09.480> meeting<00:17:09.780> with<00:17:10.020> the<00:17:10.199> town um a few of us meeting with the town um a few of us meeting with the town and<00:17:11.819> trying<00:17:12.120> to<00:17:12.299> get<00:17:12.419> our<00:17:12.660> plan<00:17:12.839> in<00:17:13.079> place and trying to get our plan in place and trying to get our plan in place um<00:17:14.459> at<00:17:15.179> all<00:17:15.360> of<00:17:15.480> FY<00:17:15.780> 24<00:17:16.140> update um at all of FY 24 update um at all of FY 24 update oh<00:17:18.480> yeah<00:17:18.600> I'm<00:17:18.780> sorry<00:17:18.900> fy24<00:17:19.740> yes<00:17:19.980> nope<00:17:20.400> that's oh yeah I’m sorry fy24 yes nope that’s oh yeah I’m sorry fy24 yes nope that’s all<00:17:20.880> we<00:17:21.000> have<00:17:21.120> for<00:17:21.240> fy24<00:17:21.900> at<00:17:22.140> this<00:17:22.260> point all we have for fy24 at this point all we have for fy24 at this point um<00:17:23.280> sorry<00:17:23.520> I'm<00:17:23.819> I'm<00:17:24.059> in<00:17:24.360> three<00:17:24.720> different

17:24 um sorry I’m I’m in three different um sorry I’m I’m in three different fiscal<00:17:25.260> years<00:17:25.439> is<00:17:25.679> typically<00:17:25.980> what<00:17:26.160> happens fiscal years is typically what happens fiscal years is typically what happens at<00:17:26.579> this<00:17:26.699> time<00:17:26.819> of<00:17:26.939> year at this time of year at this time of year um<00:17:28.199> yes<00:17:28.439> so<00:17:28.740> at<00:17:28.919> fy24<00:17:29.640> we<00:17:29.880> don't<00:17:30.000> have<00:17:30.120> any um yes so at fy24 we don’t have any um yes so at fy24 we don’t have any other<00:17:30.480> areas<00:17:30.840> we're<00:17:31.080> watching<00:17:31.500> closely<00:17:31.860> just other areas we’re watching closely just other areas we’re watching closely just yet<00:17:32.460> but<00:17:32.940> you<00:17:33.240> know<00:17:33.299> in<00:17:33.360> the<00:17:33.540> next<00:17:33.600> couple yet but you know in the next couple yet but you know in the next couple weeks<00:17:34.200> we<00:17:34.440> will weeks we will weeks we will we<00:17:35.760> will<00:17:35.940> start<00:17:36.660> giving<00:17:36.900> you<00:17:37.080> updates<00:17:37.440> and we will start giving you updates and we will start giving you updates and start<00:17:38.100> watching<00:17:38.460> other<00:17:38.580> areas<00:17:38.940> very<00:17:39.240> closely start watching other areas very closely start watching other areas very closely okay<00:17:40.320> so<00:17:40.620> then<00:17:40.980> we'll<00:17:41.160> move<00:17:41.280> on<00:17:41.460> to<00:17:41.580> FY<00:17:41.880> budget okay so then we’ll move on to FY budget okay so then we’ll move on to FY budget uh<00:17:42.600> 25<00:17:42.840> budget<00:17:43.380> planning uh 25 budget planning uh 25 budget planning um<00:17:44.880> next<00:17:45.240> week<00:17:45.480> every<00:17:45.780> year<00:17:45.960> at<00:17:46.200> this<00:17:46.320> time<00:17:46.500> of um next week every year at this time of um next week every year at this time of year year year um<00:17:47.820> the<00:17:48.059> chair<00:17:48.299> with<00:17:48.960> the<00:17:49.260> superintendent um the chair with the superintendent um the chair with the superintendent usually<00:17:50.280> meets<00:17:50.580> with<00:17:50.700> the<00:17:50.880> chair<00:17:51.059> of<00:17:51.539> the usually meets with the chair of the usually meets with the chair of the select<00:17:52.140> board<00:17:52.380> and select board and select board and um<00:17:54.660> their<00:17:55.500> their<00:17:55.559> Town<00:17:55.980> Administrator<00:17:56.580> as um their their Town Administrator as um their their Town Administrator as well<00:17:57.000> as<00:17:57.179> their<00:17:57.360> Finance<00:17:57.720> director<00:17:58.020> so<00:17:58.260> we'll well as their Finance director so we’ll well as their Finance director so we’ll be<00:17:58.620> having<00:17:58.740> that<00:17:58.980> meeting<00:17:59.280> next<00:17:59.760> Friday be having that meeting next Friday be having that meeting next Friday um<00:18:01.200> I<00:18:01.320> wanted<00:18:01.559> to<00:18:01.740> get<00:18:01.860> us<00:18:02.100> together<00:18:02.340> to<00:18:02.640> make um I wanted to get us together to make um I wanted to get us together to make sure<00:18:03.059> that<00:18:03.360> if<00:18:03.539> there's<00:18:03.660> any<00:18:03.900> specific sure that if there’s any specific sure that if there’s any specific questions<00:18:04.559> or<00:18:04.919> concerns<00:18:05.280> this<00:18:05.460> committee questions or concerns this committee questions or concerns this committee wants<00:18:06.179> addressed<00:18:06.600> that<00:18:06.720> we're<00:18:06.840> making<00:18:07.020> sure wants addressed that we’re making sure wants addressed that we’re making sure we<00:18:07.620> address<00:18:07.799> those<00:18:08.220> so we address those so we address those so um<00:18:09.780> we<00:18:10.140> last<00:18:10.500> year<00:18:10.740> the<00:18:11.100> budget<00:18:11.400> planning

18:11 um we last year the budget planning um we last year the budget planning process process process um<00:18:13.440> I<00:18:13.559> think<00:18:13.679> everybody<00:18:13.860> here<00:18:14.220> is<00:18:14.400> aware<00:18:14.640> of um I think everybody here is aware of um I think everybody here is aware of what<00:18:14.940> it<00:18:15.120> was<00:18:15.299> and<00:18:15.660> how<00:18:16.200> it<00:18:16.320> worked what it was and how it worked what it was and how it worked um<00:18:17.640> I<00:18:18.419> what<00:18:18.720> I<00:18:18.840> would<00:18:19.020> like<00:18:19.260> to<00:18:19.440> do<00:18:19.740> is<00:18:20.220> even<00:18:20.600> you um I what I would like to do is even you um I what I would like to do is even you know<00:18:21.660> if<00:18:22.020> we<00:18:22.320> can<00:18:22.559> stick<00:18:23.160> to<00:18:23.340> the<00:18:23.460> same know if we can stick to the same know if we can stick to the same timeline<00:18:24.480> but<00:18:25.440> include<00:18:26.160> some<00:18:26.460> more<00:18:27.240> um timeline but include some more um timeline but include some more um Community<00:18:27.660> feedback<00:18:28.380> earlier<00:18:28.980> on<00:18:29.280> in<00:18:30.059> the Community feedback earlier on in the Community feedback earlier on in the process<00:18:30.600> but<00:18:31.440> um<00:18:31.500> I<00:18:31.620> want<00:18:31.740> to<00:18:31.860> hear<00:18:31.919> from process but um I want to hear from process but um I want to hear from Michelle<00:18:32.340> and<00:18:33.059> then<00:18:33.240> you<00:18:33.840> know<00:18:34.020> if<00:18:34.140> Emma<00:18:34.559> and Michelle and then you know if Emma and Michelle and then you know if Emma and Jen<00:18:34.919> have<00:18:35.640> questions<00:18:36.000> or<00:18:36.299> concerns Jen have questions or concerns Jen have questions or concerns yeah<00:18:39.179> absolutely<00:18:39.600> thank<00:18:39.960> you<00:18:40.080> Sarah<00:18:40.320> sorry yeah absolutely thank you Sarah sorry yeah absolutely thank you Sarah sorry for<00:18:40.919> that<00:18:41.039> mix<00:18:41.160> up<00:18:41.340> yes<00:18:41.640> we're<00:18:41.820> on<00:18:42.000> 25<00:18:42.299> now for that mix up yes we’re on 25 now for that mix up yes we’re on 25 now um<00:18:43.679> so<00:18:43.860> yes<00:18:44.039> we<00:18:44.280> will<00:18:44.400> be<00:18:44.520> kicking<00:18:44.820> off<00:18:44.940> our um so yes we will be kicking off our um so yes we will be kicking off our budget<00:18:45.539> process<00:18:45.960> usually<00:18:46.500> we<00:18:46.679> kick<00:18:46.860> it<00:18:46.980> off<00:18:47.160> in budget process usually we kick it off in budget process usually we kick it off in the<00:18:47.700> October<00:18:48.120> time<00:18:48.419> frame the October time frame the October time frame um<00:18:49.860> we<00:18:50.280> send<00:18:50.520> out<00:18:50.700> our<00:18:51.000> budget<00:18:51.299> packets<00:18:51.720> with um we send out our budget packets with um we send out our budget packets with any<00:18:52.440> directive<00:18:53.039> to<00:18:53.640> principals<00:18:54.360> and any directive to principals and any directive to principals and directors directors directors um in<00:18:56.280> that<00:18:56.460> time<00:18:56.640> frame<00:18:56.940> and<00:18:57.480> then<00:18:57.900> last<00:18:58.740> year

18:58 um in that time frame and then last year um in that time frame and then last year I<00:18:59.160> believe<00:18:59.220> we<00:18:59.460> aimed<00:18:59.760> to<00:18:59.880> have<00:19:00.000> them<00:19:00.240> back<00:19:00.539> in I believe we aimed to have them back in I believe we aimed to have them back in late<00:19:01.500> November<00:19:02.100> ended<00:19:02.820> up<00:19:02.880> going<00:19:03.059> into late November ended up going into late November ended up going into December<00:19:03.720> a<00:19:03.840> little<00:19:03.960> bit December a little bit December a little bit but<00:19:06.059> really<00:19:06.360> once<00:19:07.020> the<00:19:07.320> principals<00:19:07.860> and<00:19:08.100> their but really once the principals and their but really once the principals and their sacs<00:19:09.000> and<00:19:09.179> all<00:19:09.299> that sacs and all that sacs and all that um<00:19:10.260> get<00:19:10.620> their<00:19:10.740> requests<00:19:11.220> together um get their requests together um get their requests together it<00:19:12.480> takes<00:19:12.600> us<00:19:12.780> a<00:19:12.960> little<00:19:13.020> bit<00:19:13.140> of<00:19:13.260> time<00:19:13.440> to<00:19:13.679> try it takes us a little bit of time to try it takes us a little bit of time to try to<00:19:13.980> put<00:19:14.100> all<00:19:14.340> those<00:19:14.460> pieces<00:19:14.820> together<00:19:15.059> and to put all those pieces together and to put all those pieces together and then<00:19:15.600> actually<00:19:15.840> create<00:19:16.140> the<00:19:16.380> budget<00:19:16.620> book<00:19:16.799> so then actually create the budget book so then actually create the budget book so it<00:19:17.100> takes<00:19:17.280> us<00:19:17.460> a<00:19:17.580> few<00:19:17.700> weeks<00:19:17.940> to<00:19:18.059> do<00:19:18.240> that it takes us a few weeks to do that it takes us a few weeks to do that um<00:19:19.380> last<00:19:19.620> year<00:19:19.799> we<00:19:20.340> had um last year we had um last year we had the<00:19:22.460> budget<00:19:23.460> books<00:19:23.820> release<00:19:24.000> I<00:19:24.419> want<00:19:24.600> to<00:19:24.840> say the budget books release I want to say the budget books release I want to say mid<00:19:25.559> to<00:19:25.740> late<00:19:25.919> January<00:19:26.480> for<00:19:27.480> mid-January<00:19:28.140> this mid to late January for mid-January this mid to late January for mid-January this year<00:19:28.559> unless<00:19:29.039> our<00:19:29.520> timeline<00:19:30.059> has<00:19:30.240> moved<00:19:30.539> up year unless our timeline has moved up year unless our timeline has moved up significantly significantly significantly um<00:19:32.760> but<00:19:33.000> we<00:19:33.179> do<00:19:33.360> need<00:19:33.720> to um but we do need to um but we do need to talk<00:19:35.400> about<00:19:35.580> the<00:19:35.820> elephant<00:19:36.179> in<00:19:36.360> the<00:19:36.480> room<00:19:36.600> also talk about the elephant in the room also talk about the elephant in the room also and<00:19:37.260> see<00:19:37.440> if<00:19:37.620> we're<00:19:37.860> we're<00:19:38.160> going<00:19:38.460> forward and see if we’re we’re going forward and see if we’re we’re going forward definitely<00:19:39.179> for<00:19:39.360> an<00:19:39.539> override<00:19:39.900> and<00:19:40.080> how<00:19:40.260> we're definitely for an override and how we’re definitely for an override and how we’re going<00:19:40.559> to<00:19:40.740> do<00:19:40.860> that going to do that going to do that um<00:19:42.059> certainly<00:19:42.539> our<00:19:42.900> costs<00:19:43.320> just<00:19:43.440> keep

19:44 um certainly our costs just keep um certainly our costs just keep increasing<00:19:44.760> we<00:19:45.179> did<00:19:45.360> cut<00:19:45.539> positions<00:19:46.080> this increasing we did cut positions this increasing we did cut positions this past<00:19:46.500> year past year past year um<00:19:47.880> so<00:19:48.299> to<00:19:48.780> say<00:19:48.960> that<00:19:49.320> we<00:19:49.559> are<00:19:49.740> able<00:19:50.160> to um so to say that we are able to um so to say that we are able to well<00:19:52.740> looks<00:19:53.160> like<00:19:53.220> Jen<00:19:53.520> just<00:19:53.700> entered<00:19:53.940> the well looks like Jen just entered the well looks like Jen just entered the waiting<00:19:54.360> room<00:19:54.419> again<00:19:54.720> I<00:19:55.200> don't<00:19:55.380> know<00:19:55.500> just<00:19:55.880> may waiting room again I don’t know just may waiting room again I don’t know just may be<00:19:57.059> signing<00:19:57.360> in<00:19:57.480> on<00:19:57.660> a<00:19:57.780> computer<00:19:57.900> now<00:19:58.380> okay be signing in on a computer now okay be signing in on a computer now okay sorry sorry sorry um um um so so so we<00:20:05.100> do<00:20:05.220> need<00:20:05.640> to<00:20:06.179> figure<00:20:06.600> out<00:20:06.840> how<00:20:07.140> we're<00:20:07.200> going we do need to figure out how we’re going we do need to figure out how we’re going about<00:20:07.620> it<00:20:07.860> because<00:20:08.100> we<00:20:08.460> did<00:20:08.580> have<00:20:08.760> to<00:20:08.880> cut<00:20:09.059> our about it because we did have to cut our about it because we did have to cut our positions<00:20:09.660> this<00:20:09.900> year<00:20:10.020> so<00:20:10.620> it's<00:20:10.919> it's<00:20:11.100> a positions this year so it’s it’s a positions this year so it’s it’s a likely<00:20:11.940> scenario<00:20:12.480> if<00:20:12.900> we're<00:20:13.080> not<00:20:13.320> going<00:20:13.620> to likely scenario if we’re not going to likely scenario if we’re not going to talk<00:20:14.100> about<00:20:14.280> an<00:20:14.520> override<00:20:14.940> again<00:20:15.120> that<00:20:15.480> we talk about an override again that we talk about an override again that we will<00:20:15.780> continue<00:20:16.080> cutting<00:20:16.620> positions will continue cutting positions will continue cutting positions um our<00:20:18.720> our<00:20:19.080> operating<00:20:19.559> costs<00:20:20.039> keep um our our operating costs keep um our our operating costs keep increasing<00:20:20.940> so<00:20:21.660> we<00:20:22.020> need<00:20:22.200> to<00:20:23.039> um<00:20:23.460> have<00:20:23.940> a<00:20:24.120> plan increasing so we need to um have a plan increasing so we need to um have a plan and<00:20:24.960> figure<00:20:25.140> out<00:20:25.260> how<00:20:25.500> we're<00:20:25.620> going<00:20:25.799> to<00:20:25.919> handle and figure out how we’re going to handle and figure out how we’re going to handle that<00:20:26.280> for<00:20:26.460> fy25 that for fy25 that for fy25 yeah<00:20:28.679> so<00:20:28.980> I<00:20:29.280> think

20:30 yeah so I think yeah so I think um um um I<00:20:31.740> my<00:20:32.700> understanding<00:20:33.299> is<00:20:33.720> as<00:20:34.440> the<00:20:34.679> town<00:20:34.860> goes I my understanding is as the town goes I my understanding is as the town goes through<00:20:35.340> the<00:20:35.520> process<00:20:35.880> of<00:20:36.360> coming<00:20:36.660> in<00:20:37.100> to through the process of coming in to through the process of coming in to closer<00:20:39.120> to<00:20:39.600> actual closer to actual closer to actual spending<00:20:42.179> on<00:20:43.020> their<00:20:43.260> insurance<00:20:43.500> lines<00:20:44.100> and spending on their insurance lines and spending on their insurance lines and comes<00:20:44.880> in<00:20:45.000> tighter<00:20:45.480> to<00:20:45.660> actual<00:20:46.620> revenues<00:20:47.039> and comes in tighter to actual revenues and comes in tighter to actual revenues and their<00:20:47.400> revenue<00:20:47.700> lines<00:20:48.059> we're<00:20:48.539> going<00:20:48.720> to<00:20:48.900> see<00:20:49.080> a their revenue lines we’re going to see a their revenue lines we’re going to see a period<00:20:49.679> of<00:20:50.280> the<00:20:50.760> shrinking<00:20:51.240> of<00:20:51.480> free<00:20:51.660> cash period of the shrinking of free cash period of the shrinking of free cash which<00:20:52.440> is<00:20:52.559> going<00:20:52.860> to<00:20:53.039> bring<00:20:53.400> us<00:20:53.580> to<00:20:53.820> this<00:20:54.059> clip which is going to bring us to this clip which is going to bring us to this clip that<00:20:54.600> we<00:20:54.780> saw<00:20:55.020> last<00:20:55.500> year<00:20:55.740> each<00:20:56.160> year<00:20:56.340> quicker that we saw last year each year quicker that we saw last year each year quicker and<00:20:56.880> quicker<00:20:57.240> so<00:20:58.200> I<00:20:59.100> I<00:20:59.660> you<00:21:00.660> know and quicker so I I you know and quicker so I I you know a<00:21:03.120> lot<00:21:03.240> of<00:21:03.360> this<00:21:03.539> is<00:21:03.780> assumptions<00:21:04.320> because<00:21:04.620> we a lot of this is assumptions because we a lot of this is assumptions because we haven’t<00:21:05.039> had<00:21:05.400> that<00:21:05.580> meeting<00:21:05.880> with<00:21:06.179> the<00:21:06.360> town haven’t had that meeting with the town haven’t had that meeting with the town yet<00:21:06.780> but<00:21:07.080> I<00:21:07.260> think<00:21:07.380> anybody<00:21:07.860> who<00:21:08.220> understands yet but I think anybody who understands yet but I think anybody who understands finance<00:21:09.480> and<00:21:09.660> understands<00:21:10.380> how<00:21:10.860> free<00:21:11.160> cash<00:21:11.400> is finance and understands how free cash is finance and understands how free cash is revenue<00:21:12.059> or<00:21:12.600> pre-cashes revenue or pre-cashes revenue or pre-cashes generated<00:21:15.960> and<00:21:16.919> the<00:21:17.220> way<00:21:17.400> it's<00:21:17.700> particular

21:18 generated and the way it’s particular generated and the way it’s particular the<00:21:18.600> areas<00:21:18.960> it's<00:21:19.140> come<00:21:19.320> from<00:21:19.500> in<00:21:19.679> Marblehead the areas it’s come from in Marblehead the areas it’s come from in Marblehead it’s<00:21:20.580> reasonable<00:21:21.059> to<00:21:21.419> think<00:21:21.539> we<00:21:22.200> are<00:21:22.320> going<00:21:22.440> to it’s reasonable to think we are going to it’s reasonable to think we are going to have<00:21:22.679> a<00:21:22.919> bigger<00:21:23.160> Cliff<00:21:23.520> this<00:21:23.700> year<00:21:23.880> than<00:21:24.059> we have a bigger Cliff this year than we have a bigger Cliff this year than we had<00:21:24.360> last<00:21:24.660> year<00:21:24.900> so<00:21:25.260> I<00:21:25.620> want<00:21:25.740> us<00:21:25.919> to<00:21:26.160> be had last year so I want us to be had last year so I want us to be prepared<00:21:26.940> with<00:21:27.179> that<00:21:27.360> I<00:21:27.720> want<00:21:27.780> the<00:21:27.960> public<00:21:28.200> to prepared with that I want the public to prepared with that I want the public to be<00:21:28.620> prepared<00:21:29.039> for<00:21:29.340> that be prepared for that be prepared for that um<00:21:30.780> and<00:21:31.500> really<00:21:31.679> there<00:21:31.919> to<00:21:32.100> be<00:21:32.220> no<00:21:32.520> surprises um and really there to be no surprises um and really there to be no surprises um<00:21:35.100> I<00:21:35.760> do<00:21:36.000> think<00:21:36.360> we<00:21:36.900> need<00:21:37.080> to<00:21:37.320> do<00:21:37.559> what<00:21:37.860> we've um I do think we need to do what we’ve um I do think we need to do what we’ve heard<00:21:38.400> and<00:21:38.700> I'll<00:21:38.880> let<00:21:39.059> Jen<00:21:39.299> speak<00:21:39.539> to<00:21:39.720> this<00:21:39.900> but heard and I’ll let Jen speak to this but heard and I’ll let Jen speak to this but what<00:21:40.380> we've<00:21:40.679> heard<00:21:40.860> is what we’ve heard is what we’ve heard is people<00:21:42.720> need<00:21:43.020> to<00:21:43.200> have<00:21:43.320> a<00:21:43.559> better people need to have a better people need to have a better understanding<00:21:44.220> of<00:21:44.580> what<00:21:45.539> these<00:21:45.900> ratios<00:21:46.380> they understanding of what these ratios they understanding of what these ratios they see<00:21:46.919> represent<00:21:47.760> because<00:21:48.299> you<00:21:48.480> look<00:21:48.600> up<00:21:48.780> on see represent because you look up on see represent because you look up on Jesse<00:21:49.980> and<00:21:50.100> it<00:21:50.340> says<00:21:50.520> we<00:21:50.760> have<00:21:50.820> a<00:21:51.000> 12-1<00:21:51.299> a<00:21:51.720> 14-1 Jesse and it says we have a 12-1 a 14-1 Jesse and it says we have a 12-1 a 14-1 whatever<00:21:52.440> the<00:21:53.039> number<00:21:53.220> ten<00:21:53.640> to<00:21:53.760> one<00:21:53.940> is<00:21:54.120> a whatever the number ten to one is a whatever the number ten to one is a Tessie<00:21:54.780> and<00:21:55.500> then<00:21:55.559> you<00:21:55.679> walk<00:21:55.860> into<00:21:56.039> a Tessie and then you walk into a Tessie and then you walk into a classroom<00:21:56.700> and<00:21:57.240> that's<00:21:57.419> not<00:21:57.600> what<00:21:57.840> you<00:21:57.960> see classroom and that’s not what you see classroom and that’s not what you see what<00:21:59.159> what<00:21:59.520> are<00:21:59.760> all<00:21:59.880> the<00:22:00.059> what<00:22:00.480> are<00:22:00.720> is<00:22:01.140> every what what are all the what are is every what what are all the what are is every one<00:22:01.980> of<00:22:02.100> our<00:22:02.220> employees<00:22:02.640> doing<00:22:03.179> because

22:03 one of our employees doing because one of our employees doing because they’re<00:22:03.780> all<00:22:03.960> working<00:22:04.200> and<00:22:04.559> working<00:22:04.799> very they’re all working and working very they’re all working and working very hard<00:22:05.340> and<00:22:05.460> working<00:22:05.880> doing hard and working doing hard and working doing you<00:22:09.120> know<00:22:09.179> something<00:22:09.480> with<00:22:10.080> our<00:22:10.260> students<00:22:10.679> I you know something with our students I you know something with our students I think<00:22:11.640> it's<00:22:11.880> really<00:22:12.179> a<00:22:13.020> what<00:22:13.679> we<00:22:13.919> need<00:22:14.159> to think it’s really a what we need to think it’s really a what we need to really<00:22:14.820> explain<00:22:15.419> and<00:22:15.960> lay<00:22:16.140> out<00:22:16.320> is<00:22:16.679> what<00:22:17.400> is really explain and lay out is what is really explain and lay out is what is every<00:22:18.000> employee<00:22:18.659> doing<00:22:19.320> what<00:22:20.280> is<00:22:20.460> driving every employee doing what is driving every employee doing what is driving these<00:22:21.059> numbers<00:22:21.240> are<00:22:21.720> we<00:22:21.900> driving<00:22:22.200> class<00:22:23.159> size these numbers are we driving class size these numbers are we driving class size numbers<00:22:23.940> to<00:22:24.600> fit<00:22:24.840> our<00:22:25.080> numbers<00:22:25.320> or<00:22:25.679> are<00:22:25.799> we numbers to fit our numbers or are we numbers to fit our numbers or are we saying<00:22:26.340> we<00:22:26.520> have<00:22:26.640> this<00:22:26.820> many<00:22:27.059> employees<00:22:27.600> so saying we have this many employees so saying we have this many employees so you<00:22:29.400> know<00:22:29.460> we<00:22:29.700> may<00:22:29.880> have<00:22:30.320> 22<00:22:31.320> in<00:22:31.559> this<00:22:31.740> class you know we may have 22 in this class you know we may have 22 in this class and<00:22:32.340> 14<00:22:32.520> in<00:22:32.880> this<00:22:33.059> one<00:22:33.179> so<00:22:33.720> I<00:22:33.840> think<00:22:33.960> we<00:22:34.200> really and 14 in this one so I think we really and 14 in this one so I think we really need<00:22:34.860> our<00:22:35.340> principals<00:22:36.000> to<00:22:36.480> understand need our principals to understand need our principals to understand um

22:43 that they we need to see as a school that they we need to see as a school committee<00:22:44.340> as<00:22:44.640> a<00:22:44.820> subcommittee<00:22:45.419> and<00:22:45.720> as<00:22:45.960> a committee as a subcommittee and as a committee as a subcommittee and as a town<00:22:46.440> what town what town what what<00:22:48.840> everyone<00:22:49.020> is<00:22:49.320> doing what everyone is doing what everyone is doing um<00:22:51.000> and<00:22:51.179> Jen<00:22:51.360> I'll<00:22:51.600> I'll<00:22:51.720> kick<00:22:52.020> it<00:22:52.140> to<00:22:52.260> you um and Jen I’ll I’ll kick it to you um and Jen I’ll I’ll kick it to you because<00:22:52.500> I<00:22:52.679> don't<00:22:52.799> know<00:22:52.919> if<00:22:53.100> I<00:22:53.280> described because I don’t know if I described because I don’t know if I described you<00:22:55.020> know you know you know some<00:22:56.280> of<00:22:56.400> the<00:22:56.460> concerns<00:22:56.820> you<00:22:56.940> voiced<00:22:57.299> in<00:22:57.360> our some of the concerns you voiced in our some of the concerns you voiced in our meetings<00:22:57.780> before<00:22:58.020> well<00:22:58.440> but meetings before well but meetings before well but um<00:23:00.059> yeah<00:23:00.360> yeah um yeah yeah um yeah yeah um<00:23:01.620> and<00:23:01.860> Michelle<00:23:02.340> I've<00:23:02.640> had<00:23:02.760> we've<00:23:03.059> had<00:23:03.120> this um and Michelle I’ve had we’ve had this um and Michelle I’ve had we’ve had this conversation<00:23:03.720> so conversation so conversation so um<00:23:05.220> from<00:23:05.640> my<00:23:05.880> perspective<00:23:06.240> and<00:23:06.600> this<00:23:06.720> is<00:23:06.840> only um from my perspective and this is only um from my perspective and this is only my<00:23:07.260> perspective<00:23:07.620> I<00:23:08.580> have<00:23:09.000> absolutely<00:23:09.419> no<00:23:09.659> idea my perspective I have absolutely no idea my perspective I have absolutely no idea honestly<00:23:11.100> what<00:23:12.059> our<00:23:12.240> budget<00:23:12.480> for<00:23:12.679> fy25<00:23:13.679> will honestly what our budget for fy25 will honestly what our budget for fy25 will need<00:23:14.580> to<00:23:14.760> be need to be need to be whether<00:23:16.320> we<00:23:16.559> need<00:23:16.679> an<00:23:16.799> override<00:23:17.159> is whether we need an override is whether we need an override is absolutely<00:23:19.140> way<00:23:19.440> down<00:23:19.679> the<00:23:19.860> road<00:23:19.980> there's absolutely way down the road there’s absolutely way down the road there’s there’s<00:23:20.520> we<00:23:21.059> are<00:23:21.240> not<00:23:21.480> in<00:23:21.659> a<00:23:21.780> position<00:23:21.900> I<00:23:22.440> I<00:23:22.679> am there’s we are not in a position I I am there’s we are not in a position I I am not<00:23:23.039> in<00:23:23.159> a<00:23:23.280> position<00:23:23.400> today<00:23:23.840> to<00:23:24.840> understand not in a position today to understand not in a position today to understand that<00:23:25.620> and<00:23:26.460> and<00:23:26.640> if<00:23:27.059> that<00:23:27.240> is<00:23:27.860> necessary<00:23:28.860> or<00:23:29.039> not

23:29 that and and if that is necessary or not that and and if that is necessary or not and<00:23:29.520> I've<00:23:29.640> talked<00:23:29.940> about<00:23:30.000> this and I’ve talked about this and I’ve talked about this and<00:23:31.260> to<00:23:31.380> Sarah's<00:23:31.799> point and to Sarah’s point and to Sarah’s point you<00:23:33.000> know<00:23:33.059> a<00:23:33.179> couple<00:23:33.240> things<00:23:33.480> I<00:23:33.840> think<00:23:34.020> what<00:23:34.380> we you know a couple things I think what we you know a couple things I think what we need<00:23:34.740> to<00:23:34.980> see<00:23:35.480> is<00:23:36.480> uh<00:23:37.020> literally<00:23:37.380> what<00:23:37.620> I<00:23:37.799> call need to see is uh literally what I call need to see is uh literally what I call a<00:23:38.340> cost<00:23:38.520> accountability<00:23:39.059> budget<00:23:39.720> which<00:23:40.020> is<00:23:40.200> we a cost accountability budget which is we a cost accountability budget which is we are<00:23:41.039> going<00:23:41.280> to<00:23:41.580> account<00:23:41.760> for<00:23:42.240> every<00:23:42.840> single are going to account for every single are going to account for every single expense<00:23:44.880> now expense now expense now you<00:23:46.980> know<00:23:47.039> to<00:23:47.700> try<00:23:47.820> to<00:23:48.059> you<00:23:48.480> know<00:23:48.600> go<00:23:48.900> through you know to try to you know go through you know to try to you know go through and<00:23:49.260> dig<00:23:49.440> down<00:23:49.620> and<00:23:49.799> count<00:23:49.980> every<00:23:50.220> paper<00:23:50.460> clip and dig down and count every paper clip and dig down and count every paper clip and<00:23:50.820> piece<00:23:51.120> of<00:23:51.179> copy<00:23:51.539> paper<00:23:51.659> you<00:23:52.380> know and piece of copy paper you know and piece of copy paper you know obviously<00:23:52.919> that's<00:23:53.340> that's<00:23:53.880> a<00:23:54.179> very<00:23:54.299> small obviously that’s that’s a very small obviously that’s that’s a very small part<00:23:54.720> of<00:23:54.900> our<00:23:55.020> budget<00:23:55.320> and<00:23:55.559> is<00:23:55.740> not<00:23:55.980> necessary part of our budget and is not necessary part of our budget and is not necessary but<00:23:57.000> on<00:23:57.360> the<00:23:57.659> uh<00:23:58.320> Personnel<00:23:58.679> side<00:23:58.919> I<00:23:59.280> think<00:23:59.340> it but on the uh Personnel side I think it but on the uh Personnel side I think it is<00:23:59.640> and<00:23:59.880> I<00:24:00.000> think<00:24:00.120> what<00:24:00.360> we<00:24:00.480> are<00:24:00.659> going<00:24:00.720> to<00:24:00.840> need is and I think what we are going to need is and I think what we are going to need to<00:24:01.140> see<00:24:01.260> what<00:24:01.559> I'm<00:24:01.679> going<00:24:01.799> to<00:24:01.919> want<00:24:02.039> to<00:24:02.220> see<00:24:02.419> per to see what I’m going to want to see per to see what I’m going to want to see per building<00:24:03.720> is building is building is who<00:24:06.120> are<00:24:06.299> the<00:24:06.419> students<00:24:06.659> that<00:24:06.780> are<00:24:06.960> in<00:24:07.020> the who are the students that are in the who are the students that are in the building<00:24:07.559> today building today building today what<00:24:09.840> do<00:24:10.080> they<00:24:10.260> need what do they need what do they need and<00:24:11.880> who<00:24:12.179> are<00:24:12.299> they<00:24:12.480> who's<00:24:12.659> the<00:24:12.840> Personnel<00:24:13.140> in and who are they who’s the Personnel in and who are they who’s the Personnel in the<00:24:13.440> building<00:24:13.559> and<00:24:14.400> how<00:24:14.580> is<00:24:14.700> that<00:24:14.880> matched<00:24:15.299> up

24:15 the building and how is that matched up the building and how is that matched up and<00:24:16.320> I<00:24:16.380> think<00:24:16.500> that<00:24:16.799> will<00:24:17.039> then<00:24:17.280> you<00:24:18.120> know<00:24:18.240> tell and I think that will then you know tell and I think that will then you know tell us<00:24:19.039> you<00:24:20.039> know<00:24:20.159> you<00:24:20.880> know<00:24:20.940> have<00:24:21.299> we<00:24:21.480> allocated us you know you know have we allocated us you know you know have we allocated the<00:24:22.200> Personnel<00:24:22.559> we<00:24:22.740> have<00:24:22.980> properly<00:24:23.940> to<00:24:24.299> the the Personnel we have properly to the the Personnel we have properly to the students<00:24:24.780> in<00:24:25.020> the<00:24:25.140> buildings<00:24:25.380> that<00:24:25.679> need<00:24:25.919> them students in the buildings that need them students in the buildings that need them because<00:24:26.760> I<00:24:27.059> just<00:24:27.179> I<00:24:27.480> feel<00:24:27.659> like<00:24:27.900> every<00:24:28.860> year<00:24:29.100> we because I just I feel like every year we because I just I feel like every year we just just just we<00:24:30.780> increase<00:24:31.020> based<00:24:31.620> on<00:24:31.679> what<00:24:31.860> we<00:24:31.980> have<00:24:32.100> is we increase based on what we have is we increase based on what we have is so-called<00:24:33.179> contractual<00:24:33.659> obligations<00:24:34.260> to so-called contractual obligations to so-called contractual obligations to Personnel<00:24:35.280> that<00:24:35.460> were<00:24:35.640> here<00:24:35.820> this<00:24:36.120> year Personnel that were here this year Personnel that were here this year and<00:24:38.100> and<00:24:38.760> maybe<00:24:38.940> this<00:24:39.179> goes<00:24:39.480> on<00:24:39.539> but<00:24:39.780> I've and and maybe this goes on but I’ve and and maybe this goes on but I’ve never<00:24:40.260> seen<00:24:40.559> it<00:24:40.740> that<00:24:41.280> each<00:24:41.520> building<00:24:41.880> digs never seen it that each building digs never seen it that each building digs down<00:24:42.780> and<00:24:43.620> looks<00:24:44.280> at<00:24:44.580> the<00:24:45.120> Personnel<00:24:45.480> needs down and looks at the Personnel needs down and looks at the Personnel needs for<00:24:46.140> the<00:24:46.380> students<00:24:46.799> in<00:24:46.980> the<00:24:47.100> building<00:24:47.280> this for the students in the building this for the students in the building this year<00:24:48.120> now<00:24:48.840> you<00:24:49.500> know<00:24:49.559> we're<00:24:50.039> already<00:24:50.520> you<00:24:51.179> know year now you know we’re already you know year now you know we’re already you know three<00:24:51.720> months<00:24:52.020> into<00:24:52.140> the<00:24:52.380> into<00:24:52.559> the<00:24:52.799> fiscal three months into the into the fiscal three months into the into the fiscal year<00:24:53.280> but<00:24:53.700> it's<00:24:54.299> probably<00:24:54.539> you<00:24:55.320> know<00:24:55.440> if<00:24:55.559> we year but it’s probably you know if we year but it’s probably you know if we can<00:24:55.799> do<00:24:55.980> that<00:24:56.100> this<00:24:56.340> year<00:24:56.520> it's<00:24:56.700> a<00:24:56.880> good can do that this year it’s a good can do that this year it’s a good exercise<00:24:57.240> because<00:24:57.600> once<00:24:57.960> we<00:24:58.200> sort<00:24:58.320> of<00:24:58.440> build exercise because once we sort of build exercise because once we sort of build we<00:24:59.460> we<00:24:59.760> build<00:25:00.059> the<00:25:00.419> model<00:25:00.720> for<00:25:01.080> it<00:25:01.260> then<00:25:01.799> every

25:02 we we build the model for it then every we we build the model for it then every year<00:25:02.280> it<00:25:02.640> should<00:25:02.760> be<00:25:02.880> a<00:25:03.059> practice<00:25:03.240> that<00:25:03.539> takes year it should be a practice that takes year it should be a practice that takes place<00:25:03.900> over<00:25:04.140> the<00:25:04.320> summer<00:25:04.440> with<00:25:04.740> I<00:25:05.039> would<00:25:05.100> think place over the summer with I would think place over the summer with I would think with<00:25:05.460> the<00:25:05.640> administrators<00:25:06.179> or<00:25:07.020> or<00:25:07.260> in<00:25:07.620> the with the administrators or or in the with the administrators or or in the spring spring spring so<00:25:09.059> that's<00:25:09.360> what<00:25:09.720> I'm<00:25:09.840> looking<00:25:10.080> for<00:25:10.320> for so that’s what I’m looking for for so that’s what I’m looking for for before<00:25:11.900> we<00:25:12.900> would<00:25:13.020> have<00:25:13.200> any<00:25:13.380> idea<00:25:13.679> really before we would have any idea really before we would have any idea really what<00:25:14.760> our what our what our Personnel<00:25:16.620> side<00:25:16.799> of<00:25:16.980> the<00:25:17.100> budget<00:25:17.340> is<00:25:17.580> and<00:25:17.880> that Personnel side of the budget is and that Personnel side of the budget is and that is<00:25:18.299> what<00:25:18.600> is<00:25:18.780> the<00:25:19.020> major<00:25:19.260> driver<00:25:19.620> of<00:25:19.919> our is what is the major driver of our is what is the major driver of our overall<00:25:20.400> budget<00:25:21.240> I<00:25:21.840> do<00:25:22.020> know<00:25:22.200> there's<00:25:22.620> been overall budget I do know there’s been overall budget I do know there’s been discussion<00:25:23.340> in<00:25:23.460> Michelle<00:25:23.700> you<00:25:24.059> and<00:25:24.240> I<00:25:24.360> also discussion in Michelle you and I also discussion in Michelle you and I also have<00:25:24.720> talked<00:25:24.960> about<00:25:25.020> this have talked about this have talked about this um um um to<00:25:28.200> have to have to have um<00:25:29.580> the<00:25:30.179> school<00:25:30.539> committee<00:25:31.440> budget um the school committee budget um the school committee budget reflective<00:25:33.240> of<00:25:33.659> all<00:25:34.020> of<00:25:34.140> the<00:25:34.380> costs reflective of all of the costs reflective of all of the costs particularly<00:25:35.460> the<00:25:35.640> indirect<00:25:35.880> costs<00:25:36.299> for particularly the indirect costs for particularly the indirect costs for personnel personnel personnel um<00:25:38.220> and<00:25:38.400> presumably<00:25:38.880> the<00:25:39.419> indirect<00:25:39.659> Revenue um and presumably the indirect Revenue um and presumably the indirect Revenue to<00:25:40.620> cover<00:25:40.860> those<00:25:41.220> costs<00:25:41.700> which<00:25:42.299> include to cover those costs which include to cover those costs which include um<00:25:43.500> and<00:25:44.039> I<00:25:44.220> may<00:25:44.340> miss<00:25:44.580> some<00:25:44.820> things<00:25:45.000> but um and I may miss some things but um and I may miss some things but primarily<00:25:45.539> you<00:25:45.960> know<00:25:46.020> retire<00:25:46.380> repayments primarily you know retire repayments primarily you know retire repayments retiree<00:25:47.520> benefits<00:25:47.940> and

25:49 retiree benefits and retiree benefits and um<00:25:49.200> insurance<00:25:49.500> medical<00:25:50.460> insurance<00:25:50.700> benefits um insurance medical insurance benefits um insurance medical insurance benefits I<00:25:51.419> don't<00:25:51.539> know<00:25:51.600> if<00:25:51.659> there's<00:25:51.840> other<00:25:52.140> indirect I don’t know if there’s other indirect I don’t know if there’s other indirect costs costs costs um<00:25:54.600> that<00:25:55.380> I'm<00:25:55.559> unaware<00:25:56.100> of<00:25:56.159> I<00:25:56.520> don't<00:25:56.640> know<00:25:56.700> I um that I’m unaware of I don’t know I um that I’m unaware of I don’t know I don’t<00:25:57.120> think<00:25:57.240> we<00:25:57.360> do<00:25:57.539> life<00:25:57.779> insurance<00:25:57.960> or don’t think we do life insurance or don’t think we do life insurance or group<00:25:58.919> I<00:25:59.159> don't<00:25:59.220> know<00:25:59.340> I<00:25:59.580> don't<00:25:59.760> know<00:25:59.820> if<00:25:59.880> we<00:26:00.059> do group I don’t know I don’t know if we do group I don’t know I don’t know if we do anything<00:26:00.779> like<00:26:01.080> that

26:06 um so if that’s the case then it really um so if that’s the case then it really is<00:26:06.720> kind<00:26:06.960> of<00:26:07.080> a<00:26:07.200> game<00:26:07.320> changer<00:26:07.799> in<00:26:07.980> terms<00:26:08.220> of is kind of a game changer in terms of is kind of a game changer in terms of managing<00:26:10.260> Personnel<00:26:10.799> right<00:26:11.460> because<00:26:11.940> we're managing Personnel right because we’re managing Personnel right because we’re going<00:26:12.779> to<00:26:12.840> have<00:26:12.960> this<00:26:13.320> whole<00:26:13.559> new<00:26:13.919> chunk<00:26:14.220> of going to have this whole new chunk of going to have this whole new chunk of Revenue<00:26:14.580> but<00:26:14.880> also<00:26:15.120> this<00:26:15.299> new<00:26:15.480> chunk<00:26:15.659> of<00:26:15.840> cost Revenue but also this new chunk of cost Revenue but also this new chunk of cost if<00:26:16.440> that<00:26:16.620> is<00:26:16.740> in<00:26:16.919> fact<00:26:17.039> what's<00:26:17.220> going<00:26:17.460> to if that is in fact what’s going to if that is in fact what’s going to happen<00:26:17.700> for<00:26:18.360> fy25<00:26:19.200> or<00:26:19.860> is<00:26:20.100> it<00:26:20.279> going<00:26:20.460> to<00:26:20.580> be<00:26:20.700> an happen for fy25 or is it going to be an happen for fy25 or is it going to be an exercise<00:26:21.240> that<00:26:21.720> takes<00:26:21.840> us<00:26:22.080> a<00:26:22.260> year<00:26:22.380> to exercise that takes us a year to exercise that takes us a year to implement<00:26:23.279> for<00:26:23.460> FY<00:26:23.760> 26.<00:26:24.539> I<00:26:25.260> I<00:26:25.380> don't<00:26:25.559> know implement for FY 26. I I don’t know implement for FY 26. I I don’t know um<00:26:26.760> because<00:26:26.940> we're<00:26:27.240> going<00:26:27.419> to<00:26:27.539> have<00:26:27.659> to um because we’re going to have to um because we’re going to have to re-look<00:26:28.380> at<00:26:29.059> everything<00:26:30.059> basically<00:26:30.840> and re-look at everything basically and re-look at everything basically and rebuild<00:26:32.760> and<00:26:33.059> restructure<00:26:33.720> our<00:26:34.620> budget rebuild and restructure our budget rebuild and restructure our budget to<00:26:36.179> include<00:26:36.480> these<00:26:36.960> pretty<00:26:37.140> you<00:26:37.559> know to include these pretty you know to include these pretty you know significant<00:26:38.279> indirect<00:26:38.820> costs significant indirect costs significant indirect costs because<00:26:40.679> one<00:26:41.159> thing<00:26:41.279> I because one thing I because one thing I I you<00:26:43.799> know<00:26:43.980> what<00:26:44.279> had<00:26:44.460> I

26:49 need for a trend to see what is going on need for a trend to see what is going on you<00:26:50.580> know<00:26:50.700> what<00:26:51.059> has<00:26:51.240> been<00:26:51.480> budgeted<00:26:52.020> for you know what has been budgeted for you know what has been budgeted for health<00:26:53.340> insurance<00:26:53.580> town<00:26:54.179> wide<00:26:54.600> what<00:26:55.440> has<00:26:55.559> been health insurance town wide what has been health insurance town wide what has been expended<00:26:56.460> what<00:26:57.120> is<00:26:57.240> and<00:26:57.539> and<00:26:57.779> then<00:26:58.020> the<00:26:58.260> next expended what is and and then the next expended what is and and then the next level<00:26:58.740> that<00:26:59.039> data<00:26:59.460> is<00:26:59.640> what<00:27:00.360> is<00:27:00.539> the<00:27:00.720> breakdown level that data is what is the breakdown level that data is what is the breakdown of<00:27:01.380> what<00:27:01.679> has<00:27:01.799> been<00:27:01.980> budgeted<00:27:02.400> and<00:27:02.640> expended of what has been budgeted and expended of what has been budgeted and expended on<00:27:03.299> the<00:27:03.419> town<00:27:03.539> side<00:27:03.840> and<00:27:04.140> what<00:27:04.320> has<00:27:04.440> been on the town side and what has been on the town side and what has been budgeted<00:27:05.100> and<00:27:05.340> expended<00:27:05.820> on<00:27:06.360> the<00:27:06.480> school<00:27:06.720> side budgeted and expended on the school side budgeted and expended on the school side because<00:27:07.860> as<00:27:08.340> we<00:27:08.580> know<00:27:08.700> the<00:27:09.059> biggest<00:27:09.179> driver<00:27:09.539> to because as we know the biggest driver to because as we know the biggest driver to free<00:27:10.140> cash<00:27:10.440> in<00:27:10.919> the<00:27:11.159> biggest<00:27:11.279> overage<00:27:11.940> in<00:27:12.120> our free cash in the biggest overage in our free cash in the biggest overage in our budget<00:27:12.659> is<00:27:13.440> the<00:27:13.799> health<00:27:13.980> insurance<00:27:14.480> so<00:27:15.480> I budget is the health insurance so I budget is the health insurance so I don’t<00:27:16.140> know<00:27:16.260> that<00:27:16.440> Sarah<00:27:16.679> I<00:27:17.100> don't<00:27:17.220> know<00:27:17.340> that don’t know that Sarah I don’t know that don’t know that Sarah I don’t know that I<00:27:18.179> don't<00:27:18.299> know<00:27:18.419> anything<00:27:18.679> I<00:27:19.679> really<00:27:19.799> don't<00:27:19.980> I I don’t know anything I really don’t I I don’t know anything I really don’t I mean<00:27:20.340> I<00:27:20.520> don't<00:27:20.580> know<00:27:20.700> anything<00:27:20.880> about<00:27:21.179> these mean I don’t know anything about these mean I don’t know anything about these indirect<00:27:21.720> costs indirect costs indirect costs I<00:27:23.220> mean<00:27:23.279> we<00:27:23.460> hear<00:27:23.640> this<00:27:23.820> I<00:27:24.000> mean<00:27:24.120> it's I mean we hear this I mean it’s I mean we hear this I mean it’s anecdotal<00:27:24.840> but<00:27:25.380> we<00:27:25.620> we've<00:27:26.159> seen<00:27:26.340> no<00:27:26.460> modeling anecdotal but we we’ve seen no modeling anecdotal but we we’ve seen no modeling I<00:27:27.299> don't<00:27:27.419> I<00:27:27.539> mean<00:27:27.720> Michelle<00:27:27.840> have<00:27:28.200> you<00:27:28.320> seen I don’t I mean Michelle have you seen I don’t I mean Michelle have you seen any any any Financial<00:27:30.120> mom<00:27:30.480> you<00:27:30.779> know<00:27:30.840> Financial Financial mom you know Financial Financial mom you know Financial models models models in<00:27:34.559> terms<00:27:34.740> of<00:27:34.860> what<00:27:35.159> they're<00:27:35.340> paying<00:27:35.640> no<00:27:35.820> I

27:36 in terms of what they’re paying no I in terms of what they’re paying no I mean<00:27:36.360> we<00:27:36.539> certainly mean we certainly mean we certainly spoke<00:27:38.460> about<00:27:38.640> this<00:27:39.059> at<00:27:39.299> length<00:27:39.539> with<00:27:39.779> fincom spoke about this at length with fincom spoke about this at length with fincom last<00:27:40.620> year<00:27:40.740> through<00:27:40.980> the<00:27:41.100> budget<00:27:41.400> process last year through the budget process last year through the budget process they<00:27:43.140> were<00:27:43.260> pretty<00:27:43.440> adamant<00:27:43.860> about<00:27:44.100> giving<00:27:44.779> a they were pretty adamant about giving a they were pretty adamant about giving a full<00:27:46.320> cost<00:27:46.620> of<00:27:46.860> what<00:27:47.100> it<00:27:47.220> cost<00:27:47.400> to<00:27:47.700> run<00:27:47.880> the full cost of what it cost to run the full cost of what it cost to run the school<00:27:48.240> department<00:27:48.559> so<00:27:49.559> we<00:27:49.799> did<00:27:49.980> some school department so we did some school department so we did some reporting<00:27:50.640> in<00:27:50.820> terms<00:27:51.059> of<00:27:51.179> that reporting in terms of that reporting in terms of that um<00:27:52.559> but<00:27:52.919> really<00:27:53.100> we<00:27:53.400> we<00:27:53.700> have<00:27:54.059> not<00:27:54.419> had<00:27:55.260> the um but really we we have not had the um but really we we have not had the opportunity<00:27:55.740> to<00:27:55.919> dive<00:27:56.220> into<00:27:56.460> the<00:27:56.820> actual opportunity to dive into the actual opportunity to dive into the actual figures<00:27:57.480> and<00:27:57.720> accounts<00:27:58.200> and<00:27:58.380> all<00:27:58.500> that<00:27:58.740> so figures and accounts and all that so figures and accounts and all that so that<00:27:59.700> I<00:28:00.000> think<00:28:00.120> that<00:28:00.179> means<00:28:00.480> that<00:28:00.600> we're<00:28:00.720> going that I think that means that we’re going that I think that means that we’re going to<00:28:00.900> be<00:28:00.960> able<00:28:01.080> to<00:28:01.140> do<00:28:01.320> it<00:28:01.380> for<00:28:01.620> fy25<00:28:02.400> I<00:28:03.059> could<00:28:03.179> be to be able to do it for fy25 I could be to be able to do it for fy25 I could be wrong<00:28:03.419> but<00:28:03.720> it<00:28:03.840> feels<00:28:04.020> like<00:28:04.140> we're<00:28:04.260> trying<00:28:04.440> to wrong but it feels like we’re trying to wrong but it feels like we’re trying to change<00:28:04.679> the<00:28:04.860> tire<00:28:05.039> while<00:28:05.400> we're<00:28:05.580> driving change the tire while we’re driving change the tire while we’re driving um we’re<00:28:07.080> going<00:28:07.200> to<00:28:07.320> try<00:28:07.440> to<00:28:07.559> mod<00:28:07.740> you<00:28:07.980> know um we’re going to try to mod you know um we’re going to try to mod you know like<00:28:08.159> we're<00:28:08.340> going<00:28:08.460> to<00:28:08.520> try<00:28:08.580> to<00:28:08.700> do<00:28:08.880> you<00:28:09.720> know like we’re going to try to do you know like we’re going to try to do you know historical<00:28:10.279> reflection<00:28:11.720> projections<00:28:12.720> for historical reflection projections for historical reflection projections for the<00:28:13.080> next<00:28:13.460> two<00:28:14.460> three<00:28:14.700> fiscal<00:28:15.179> years<00:28:15.360> and<00:28:15.720> then the next two three fiscal years and then the next two three fiscal years and then try<00:28:15.960> to<00:28:16.080> build<00:28:16.200> a<00:28:16.380> budget<00:28:16.620> for<00:28:16.740> that<00:28:16.980> while try to build a budget for that while try to build a budget for that while we’re<00:28:18.179> building<00:28:18.539> a<00:28:18.779> budget<00:28:19.020> like<00:28:19.380> I<00:28:19.919> don't we’re building a budget like I don’t we’re building a budget like I don’t know know

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28:28 it’s almost like you’re running I don’t it’s almost like you’re running I don’t know<00:28:28.320> running<00:28:28.919> two<00:28:29.159> different<00:28:29.279> budget<00:28:29.640> well know running two different budget well know running two different budget well not<00:28:30.000> I<00:28:30.179> guess<00:28:30.299> it's<00:28:30.480> sort<00:28:30.960> of<00:28:31.080> a<00:28:31.400> pair<00:28:32.400> down not I guess it’s sort of a pair down not I guess it’s sort of a pair down budget<00:28:32.940> and<00:28:33.179> then<00:28:33.299> a<00:28:33.539> full<00:28:33.900> one<00:28:34.140> with<00:28:34.260> all<00:28:34.380> the budget and then a full one with all the budget and then a full one with all the additional<00:28:34.799> costs additional costs additional costs absolutely<00:28:37.700> definitely<00:28:38.700> it's<00:28:38.880> gonna<00:28:39.059> it's absolutely definitely it’s gonna it’s absolutely definitely it’s gonna it’s gonna<00:28:39.480> require<00:28:39.779> a<00:28:40.080> lot<00:28:40.200> of<00:28:40.320> discussion<00:28:40.740> and<00:28:40.919> a gonna require a lot of discussion and a gonna require a lot of discussion and a lot<00:28:41.220> of<00:28:41.279> thought<00:28:41.460> about<00:28:41.640> how<00:28:42.179> we<00:28:42.480> move<00:28:42.840> forward lot of thought about how we move forward lot of thought about how we move forward absolutely<00:28:43.860> and<00:28:44.700> those<00:28:44.940> discussions<00:28:45.299> will absolutely and those discussions will absolutely and those discussions will hopefully<00:28:45.840> begin<00:28:46.320> to<00:28:46.620> get<00:28:46.740> into<00:28:46.860> the<00:28:46.980> Nitty hopefully begin to get into the Nitty hopefully begin to get into the Nitty Gritty<00:28:47.520> next<00:28:47.700> week Gritty next week Gritty next week well<00:28:49.080> and<00:28:49.320> it's<00:28:49.500> also<00:28:49.799> a<00:28:50.220> management<00:28:50.340> issue<00:28:50.940> or well and it’s also a management issue or well and it’s also a management issue or for<00:28:51.840> lack<00:28:52.380> of<00:28:52.500> better<00:28:52.679> administrative<00:28:53.460> issue for lack of better administrative issue for lack of better administrative issue going<00:28:55.440> forward<00:28:55.679> because<00:28:56.100> when<00:28:56.640> we<00:28:57.360> hire going forward because when we hire going forward because when we hire someone<00:28:58.500> right<00:28:59.460> Sarah<00:28:59.700> wait<00:29:00.120> what<00:29:00.419> whatever someone right Sarah wait what whatever someone right Sarah wait what whatever whether<00:29:01.559> it's<00:29:01.740> a<00:29:01.919> new<00:29:02.159> bus<00:29:02.340> driver<00:29:02.520> or<00:29:02.880> a<00:29:03.000> new whether it’s a new bus driver or a new whether it’s a new bus driver or a new teacher<00:29:03.419> we<00:29:04.080> have<00:29:04.260> traditionally<00:29:05.159> looked<00:29:05.640> at teacher we have traditionally looked at teacher we have traditionally looked at the<00:29:06.120> current<00:29:06.419> cost<00:29:06.840> of<00:29:07.320> that<00:29:07.620> salary<00:29:08.279> right the current cost of that salary right the current cost of that salary right but<00:29:09.480> we've<00:29:09.659> never<00:29:09.840> looked<00:29:10.200> at<00:29:10.320> the<00:29:11.039> long-term but we’ve never looked at the long-term but we’ve never looked at the long-term cost<00:29:12.179> of<00:29:12.360> what<00:29:12.539> that's<00:29:12.659> going<00:29:12.900> to<00:29:13.020> do<00:29:13.080> to<00:29:13.200> our

29:13 cost of what that’s going to do to our cost of what that’s going to do to our budget<00:29:13.740> for<00:29:13.919> the<00:29:14.039> next<00:29:14.159> 30<00:29:14.520> Years<00:29:14.880> or<00:29:15.299> 20<00:29:15.480> years budget for the next 30 Years or 20 years budget for the next 30 Years or 20 years or<00:29:16.080> whatever<00:29:16.200> it<00:29:16.440> is<00:29:16.559> and<00:29:16.799> that's<00:29:16.980> going<00:29:17.220> to<00:29:17.340> be or whatever it is and that’s going to be or whatever it is and that’s going to be a<00:29:17.700> whole<00:29:17.760> new<00:29:18.000> way<00:29:18.500> of<00:29:19.500> budgeting<00:29:20.279> I<00:29:20.640> think a whole new way of budgeting I think a whole new way of budgeting I think when<00:29:21.419> we're<00:29:21.600> looking<00:29:21.779> at<00:29:22.020> personnel<00:29:22.440> which<00:29:22.620> is when we’re looking at personnel which is when we’re looking at personnel which is our<00:29:22.980> single<00:29:23.279> greatest<00:29:23.520> cost our single greatest cost our single greatest cost right right right yeah<00:29:27.659> and<00:29:28.140> to<00:29:28.799> me<00:29:28.980> what<00:29:29.340> I<00:29:29.520> can't<00:29:30.000> quite<00:29:30.360> wrap yeah and to me what I can’t quite wrap yeah and to me what I can’t quite wrap my<00:29:30.899> head<00:29:31.020> around<00:29:31.200> is<00:29:31.620> this<00:29:31.860> idea<00:29:32.279> our<00:29:33.240> budget my head around is this idea our budget my head around is this idea our budget has<00:29:33.840> been<00:29:34.020> under<00:29:34.200> such<00:29:34.559> scrutiny<00:29:35.220> for<00:29:35.460> the has been under such scrutiny for the has been under such scrutiny for the last<00:29:35.700> several<00:29:36.120> years<00:29:36.440> that<00:29:37.440> the<00:29:37.860> idea<00:29:38.039> I<00:29:38.399> mean last several years that the idea I mean last several years that the idea I mean this<00:29:38.760> this<00:29:39.000> really<00:29:39.299> should<00:29:39.539> be<00:29:39.720> a<00:29:40.020> quite<00:29:40.260> an this this really should be a quite an this this really should be a quite an easy<00:29:40.919> quick<00:29:41.700> report<00:29:42.000> to<00:29:42.419> produce<00:29:42.779> three<00:29:43.380> to easy quick report to produce three to easy quick report to produce three to like<00:29:43.980> three<00:29:44.640> years<00:29:44.820> of<00:29:45.480> budgeted<00:29:46.080> and like three years of budgeted and like three years of budgeted and expended expended expended I<00:29:48.539> I<00:29:48.600> don't<00:29:48.899> know<00:29:49.080> why<00:29:49.260> this<00:29:49.500> is<00:29:49.620> a<00:29:49.799> mystery<00:29:50.100> I I I don’t know why this is a mystery I I I don’t know why this is a mystery I have<00:29:50.640> no<00:29:51.059> comprehension<00:29:51.779> why<00:29:52.399> anybody<00:29:53.399> in have no comprehension why anybody in have no comprehension why anybody in town<00:29:53.880> can<00:29:54.120> go<00:29:54.299> to<00:29:54.419> our<00:29:54.600> budget<00:29:55.020> and<00:29:55.620> look<00:29:55.799> at town can go to our budget and look at town can go to our budget and look at what’s<00:29:56.100> budgeted<00:29:56.700> look<00:29:57.179> at<00:29:57.299> what's<00:29:57.539> been what’s budgeted look at what’s been what’s budgeted look at what’s been actually<00:29:58.740> expended<00:29:59.460> and<00:29:59.880> that<00:30:00.059> line<00:30:00.240> item

30:00 actually expended and that line item actually expended and that line item looking<00:30:01.200> three<00:30:01.500> years<00:30:01.740> back<00:30:01.980> I<00:30:02.220> mean<00:30:02.340> I<00:30:02.520> can looking three years back I mean I can looking three years back I mean I can get<00:30:02.760> there<00:30:02.940> in<00:30:03.120> three<00:30:03.299> seconds<00:30:03.539> I<00:30:04.440> don't get there in three seconds I don’t get there in three seconds I don’t understand<00:30:04.799> why<00:30:05.220> it's<00:30:05.340> such<00:30:05.460> a<00:30:05.580> mystery<00:30:05.940> in understand why it’s such a mystery in understand why it’s such a mystery in the<00:30:06.179> town<00:30:06.299> side<00:30:06.539> that<00:30:06.840> we<00:30:07.140> can't<00:30:07.380> actually<00:30:07.799> get the town side that we can’t actually get the town side that we can’t actually get this<00:30:08.399> information<00:30:08.640> I<00:30:09.179> should<00:30:09.360> be<00:30:09.480> able<00:30:09.600> to<00:30:09.779> go this information I should be able to go this information I should be able to go to<00:30:11.399> online<00:30:12.240> or<00:30:12.720> down<00:30:12.840> to<00:30:13.020> Abbott<00:30:13.380> Hall<00:30:13.500> and to online or down to Abbott Hall and to online or down to Abbott Hall and have<00:30:13.980> them<00:30:14.159> just<00:30:14.340> be<00:30:14.460> able<00:30:14.580> to<00:30:14.700> hand<00:30:14.820> me<00:30:15.000> the have them just be able to hand me the have them just be able to hand me the report<00:30:15.240> the<00:30:15.600> way<00:30:15.720> we<00:30:15.899> can<00:30:16.140> so<00:30:17.039> I<00:30:17.580> guess<00:30:17.700> it's report the way we can so I guess it’s report the way we can so I guess it’s going<00:30:18.120> to<00:30:18.179> be<00:30:18.299> something<00:30:18.539> you're<00:30:18.779> going<00:30:18.960> to going to be something you’re going to going to be something you’re going to when<00:30:19.260> you<00:30:19.380> meet<00:30:19.620> when<00:30:19.799> are<00:30:19.919> you<00:30:20.039> meeting<00:30:20.159> next when you meet when are you meeting next when you meet when are you meeting next week<00:30:21.000> next<00:30:21.299> Friday week next Friday week next Friday we’re<00:30:22.740> gonna<00:30:22.860> have we’re gonna have we’re gonna have it<00:30:24.960> exists<00:30:25.260> the<00:30:25.380> information<00:30:25.559> exists it exists the information exists it exists the information exists somewhere<00:30:26.700> they<00:30:26.940> reconcile<00:30:27.480> their<00:30:27.720> books<00:30:28.020> at somewhere they reconcile their books at somewhere they reconcile their books at the<00:30:28.260> end<00:30:28.380> of<00:30:28.559> the<00:30:28.679> year<00:30:28.799> we<00:30:29.159> that<00:30:29.580> line<00:30:29.880> item the end of the year we that line item the end of the year we that line item has<00:30:30.539> to<00:30:30.720> oh<00:30:31.140> who<00:30:31.620> has<00:30:31.740> said<00:30:31.980> that<00:30:32.100> we<00:30:32.340> don't has to oh who has said that we don’t has to oh who has said that we don’t have<00:30:32.580> it<00:30:32.700> I<00:30:32.880> mean<00:30:33.000> have<00:30:33.360> we<00:30:33.480> asked<00:30:33.659> for<00:30:33.779> it have it I mean have we asked for it have it I mean have we asked for it I<00:30:35.100> don't<00:30:35.159> know<00:30:35.279> anybody<00:30:35.580> that's<00:30:35.880> been<00:30:36.059> able<00:30:36.299> to I don’t know anybody that’s been able to I don’t know anybody that’s been able to tell<00:30:36.539> me<00:30:36.720> the<00:30:36.899> information<00:30:37.080> but<00:30:37.620> have<00:30:37.740> we tell me the information but have we tell me the information but have we asked<00:30:38.159> for<00:30:38.340> it<00:30:38.520> specifically<00:30:39.480> like<00:30:39.779> Michelle asked for it specifically like Michelle asked for it specifically like Michelle if<00:30:40.260> we<00:30:40.440> said<00:30:40.679> like<00:30:41.100> yeah<00:30:41.640> so<00:30:41.880> I<00:30:42.059> think<00:30:42.179> that<00:30:42.360> no if we said like yeah so I think that no if we said like yeah so I think that no I<00:30:43.020> haven't<00:30:43.140> yeah<00:30:43.740> so<00:30:44.100> maybe<00:30:44.340> next<00:30:44.880> week<00:30:45.120> at<00:30:45.539> the I haven’t yeah so maybe next week at the

30:45 I haven’t yeah so maybe next week at the meeting<00:30:45.899> there<00:30:46.500> and<00:30:46.919> maybe<00:30:47.159> we<00:30:47.340> can<00:30:47.460> do<00:30:47.580> that meeting there and maybe we can do that meeting there and maybe we can do that now<00:30:47.880> or<00:30:48.179> Michelle<00:30:48.419> you<00:30:48.720> can<00:30:48.840> do<00:30:48.960> this<00:30:49.020> offline now or Michelle you can do this offline now or Michelle you can do this offline then<00:30:49.559> we<00:30:49.799> probably<00:30:49.919> need<00:30:50.100> to<00:30:50.159> go<00:30:50.340> in<00:30:50.580> or<00:30:51.480> you then we probably need to go in or you then we probably need to go in or you need<00:30:51.840> to<00:30:51.899> go<00:30:52.020> in<00:30:52.200> with<00:30:53.039> a<00:30:53.340> laundry<00:30:54.000> list<00:30:54.360> of need to go in with a laundry list of need to go in with a laundry list of what<00:30:55.140> we<00:30:55.320> need<00:30:55.440> you<00:30:55.679> know<00:30:55.799> what<00:30:55.919> what<00:30:55.980> we<00:30:56.520> need what we need you know what what we need what we need you know what what we need um<00:30:57.360> in<00:30:57.539> terms<00:30:57.720> of<00:30:57.779> reporting<00:30:58.200> I<00:30:58.440> don't<00:30:58.559> know um in terms of reporting I don’t know um in terms of reporting I don’t know exactly<00:30:59.039> what<00:30:59.220> that<00:30:59.399> is<00:30:59.520> or<00:30:59.700> how<00:30:59.880> you<00:30:59.940> want exactly what that is or how you want exactly what that is or how you want that<00:31:00.360> material<00:31:00.720> I<00:31:01.080> don't<00:31:01.140> know<00:31:01.260> how<00:31:01.440> that<00:31:01.559> guy that material I don’t know how that guy that material I don’t know how that guy I<00:31:02.220> don't<00:31:02.279> know<00:31:02.340> if<00:31:02.399> it<00:31:02.580> comes<00:31:02.700> out<00:31:02.820> of<00:31:02.940> ShopRite I don’t know if it comes out of ShopRite I don’t know if it comes out of ShopRite I<00:31:03.539> don't<00:31:03.720> know<00:31:03.840> I<00:31:04.320> don't<00:31:04.500> know<00:31:04.620> the<00:31:04.799> logistics I don’t know I don’t know the logistics I don’t know I don’t know the logistics I<00:31:05.399> mean<00:31:05.520> the<00:31:05.700> thing<00:31:05.820> is<00:31:05.940> they<00:31:06.419> they<00:31:06.480> give<00:31:07.140> us<00:31:07.380> an I mean the thing is they they give us an I mean the thing is they they give us an allocation<00:31:08.220> or<00:31:08.760> an<00:31:09.000> extended<00:31:09.480> amount<00:31:09.720> every allocation or an extended amount every allocation or an extended amount every year<00:31:10.200> we<00:31:10.559> have<00:31:10.679> to<00:31:10.799> we<00:31:11.100> have<00:31:11.279> what<00:31:11.580> we<00:31:11.820> call<00:31:12.240> an year we have to we have what we call an year we have to we have what we call an end<00:31:12.539> of<00:31:12.659> year<00:31:12.779> report<00:31:12.960> that<00:31:13.200> we<00:31:13.380> have<00:31:13.500> to end of year report that we have to end of year report that we have to submit<00:31:13.860> to<00:31:13.980> the<00:31:14.100> Department<00:31:14.220> of<00:31:14.520> Education submit to the Department of Education submit to the Department of Education the<00:31:16.140> town<00:31:16.260> reports<00:31:16.740> to<00:31:16.860> us<00:31:17.039> a<00:31:17.279> bunch<00:31:17.399> of the town reports to us a bunch of the town reports to us a bunch of figures<00:31:17.820> that<00:31:18.059> they<00:31:18.240> spend<00:31:18.419> on<00:31:18.600> our<00:31:18.779> behalf figures that they spend on our behalf figures that they spend on our behalf part<00:31:19.799> of<00:31:19.980> it<00:31:20.100> I<00:31:20.220> mean<00:31:20.340> the<00:31:20.640> majority<00:31:20.880> of<00:31:21.059> it<00:31:21.299> is part of it I mean the majority of it is part of it I mean the majority of it is health<00:31:21.720> insurance<00:31:21.960> and<00:31:22.799> retirement<00:31:23.399> there health insurance and retirement there health insurance and retirement there are<00:31:24.299> other<00:31:24.419> pieces<00:31:24.840> that<00:31:26.039> um<00:31:26.039> you<00:31:26.279> know are other pieces that um you know are other pieces that um you know Encompass<00:31:26.940> snow<00:31:27.480> plowing<00:31:28.080> field<00:31:28.679> Mowing<00:31:29.159> and Encompass snow plowing field Mowing and Encompass snow plowing field Mowing and whatnot<00:31:29.700> so<00:31:30.299> we<00:31:30.539> have<00:31:30.659> to<00:31:30.840> report<00:31:31.020> all<00:31:31.500> of

31:31 whatnot so we have to report all of whatnot so we have to report all of those<00:31:31.860> costs<00:31:32.279> we<00:31:32.820> don't<00:31:32.940> necessarily<00:31:33.419> get those costs we don’t necessarily get those costs we don’t necessarily get into<00:31:33.960> the<00:31:34.200> nitty-gritty<00:31:34.860> of<00:31:35.220> what<00:31:35.580> those into the nitty-gritty of what those into the nitty-gritty of what those costs<00:31:36.360> represent<00:31:36.720> so<00:31:37.020> I<00:31:37.320> have<00:31:37.500> caught<00:31:37.799> I<00:31:38.279> have costs represent so I have caught I have costs represent so I have caught I have numbers<00:31:38.840> I<00:31:39.840> don't<00:31:40.020> have<00:31:40.320> backup<00:31:40.919> really numbers I don’t have backup really numbers I don’t have backup really saying<00:31:41.700> what<00:31:41.940> those<00:31:42.059> numbers<00:31:42.299> are<00:31:42.600> so<00:31:43.200> I<00:31:43.380> need saying what those numbers are so I need saying what those numbers are so I need to<00:31:43.620> get<00:31:43.740> we<00:31:44.100> need<00:31:44.220> to<00:31:44.340> get<00:31:44.460> into<00:31:44.580> that to get we need to get into that to get we need to get into that nitty-gritty<00:31:45.480> level<00:31:45.600> and<00:31:45.899> I<00:31:46.020> would<00:31:46.140> think nitty-gritty level and I would think nitty-gritty level and I would think yeah<00:31:46.860> that<00:31:47.279> doesn't<00:31:47.460> give<00:31:47.640> you<00:31:47.700> that's<00:31:47.940> just<00:31:48.120> a yeah that doesn’t give you that’s just a yeah that doesn’t give you that’s just a roll<00:31:48.360> up<00:31:48.600> right<00:31:48.840> but<00:31:49.320> right<00:31:49.640> I<00:31:50.640> would<00:31:50.760> think<00:31:50.940> we roll up right but right I would think we roll up right but right I would think we would<00:31:51.360> need<00:31:51.659> also would need also would need also down<00:31:54.480> to<00:31:54.659> the<00:31:54.720> granular<00:31:55.080> level<00:31:55.380> because down to the granular level because down to the granular level because you’re<00:31:56.399> I<00:31:56.940> mean<00:31:57.059> I<00:31:57.360> don't<00:31:57.419> do<00:31:57.600> like<00:31:58.080> do<00:31:58.260> you you’re I mean I don’t do like do you you’re I mean I don’t do like do you normally<00:31:58.740> since<00:31:59.520> this<00:31:59.700> is<00:31:59.820> new<00:32:00.059> to<00:32:00.240> us<00:32:00.480> we normally since this is new to us we normally since this is new to us we normally<00:32:01.140> be<00:32:01.320> doing<00:32:01.640> projections<00:32:02.640> like normally be doing projections like normally be doing projections like you’ve<00:32:03.120> got<00:32:03.240> retirees<00:32:03.779> that<00:32:04.020> you're<00:32:04.140> gonna you’ve got retirees that you’re gonna you’ve got retirees that you’re gonna have<00:32:04.380> to<00:32:04.500> project<00:32:04.679> like<00:32:05.640> based<00:32:05.940> on<00:32:06.000> Actuarial have to project like based on Actuarial have to project like based on Actuarial tables<00:32:07.020> right<00:32:07.140> you<00:32:07.320> know<00:32:07.440> how<00:32:07.799> long<00:32:08.039> we're tables right you know how long we’re tables right you know how long we’re going<00:32:08.940> to<00:32:09.120> be going to be going to be budgeting<00:32:10.620> for<00:32:10.799> those budgeting for those budgeting for those um<00:32:11.640> for<00:32:11.940> those<00:32:12.240> retirement<00:32:13.140> costs<00:32:13.559> actually um for those retirement costs actually um for those retirement costs actually absolutely<00:32:15.240> our<00:32:15.840> retirement<00:32:16.320> costs<00:32:16.799> are

32:16 absolutely our retirement costs are absolutely our retirement costs are actually<00:32:17.159> quite<00:32:17.580> minimal<00:32:18.059> to<00:32:18.600> be<00:32:18.720> honest<00:32:18.960> I actually quite minimal to be honest I actually quite minimal to be honest I mean<00:32:19.320> not<00:32:19.679> minimal<00:32:20.100> but<00:32:20.279> minimal<00:32:20.580> in mean not minimal but minimal in mean not minimal but minimal in comparison<00:32:21.240> with<00:32:21.539> the<00:32:21.779> town comparison with the town comparison with the town um<00:32:22.740> the<00:32:22.980> only<00:32:23.100> retirement<00:32:23.580> cost<00:32:23.880> we<00:32:24.179> pay<00:32:24.419> are um the only retirement cost we pay are um the only retirement cost we pay are for<00:32:25.020> our<00:32:25.380> members<00:32:25.799> who<00:32:26.039> are<00:32:26.220> members<00:32:26.640> of<00:32:26.880> the for our members who are members of the for our members who are members of the Marblehead<00:32:27.480> contributory<00:32:28.080> or<00:32:28.380> your Marblehead contributory or your Marblehead contributory or your retirement<00:32:28.799> system retirement system retirement system um<00:32:30.059> all<00:32:30.299> of<00:32:30.480> our<00:32:30.659> teachers<00:32:31.140> we<00:32:31.620> do<00:32:31.799> not<00:32:31.980> pay<00:32:32.220> a um all of our teachers we do not pay a um all of our teachers we do not pay a retirement<00:32:32.880> assessment<00:32:33.779> for<00:32:34.140> the<00:32:34.320> teachers retirement assessment for the teachers retirement assessment for the teachers the<00:32:34.919> state<00:32:35.159> actually<00:32:35.460> pays<00:32:35.880> for<00:32:36.000> that<00:32:36.299> for the state actually pays for that for the state actually pays for that for Mass<00:32:37.380> teachers<00:32:37.799> retirement<00:32:38.279> so<00:32:38.520> we<00:32:38.700> do<00:32:38.820> have<00:32:39.000> a Mass teachers retirement so we do have a Mass teachers retirement so we do have a small<00:32:39.240> one<00:32:39.480> we<00:32:39.779> don't<00:32:39.840> have<00:32:40.020> any<00:32:40.140> match<00:32:40.380> for small one we don’t have any match for small one we don’t have any match for that<00:32:40.799> or<00:32:40.919> anything<00:32:41.039> no<00:32:41.760> we<00:32:41.940> do<00:32:42.059> not<00:32:42.240> all<00:32:42.539> right that or anything no we do not all right that or anything no we do not all right so<00:32:42.840> that<00:32:43.440> would<00:32:43.919> be<00:32:44.039> the<00:32:44.159> the<00:32:44.760> mass<00:32:45.059> Municipal so that would be the the mass Municipal so that would be the the mass Municipal would<00:32:45.840> be<00:32:46.020> I<00:32:46.500> mean<00:32:46.679> Marblehead<00:32:47.220> would<00:32:47.460> be<00:32:47.580> I would be I mean Marblehead would be I would be I mean Marblehead would be I don’t<00:32:48.059> know<00:32:48.120> maybe<00:32:48.299> a<00:32:48.539> custodians<00:32:49.140> yep<00:32:49.799> it's don’t know maybe a custodians yep it’s don’t know maybe a custodians yep it’s our<00:32:50.779> custodians<00:32:51.779> are<00:32:51.899> clerical our custodians are clerical our custodians are clerical um our<00:32:53.460> powers<00:32:53.640> our<00:32:53.940> tutors<00:32:54.299> if<00:32:54.480> they're um our powers our tutors if they’re um our powers our tutors if they’re full-time<00:32:55.140> yeah full-time yeah full-time yeah um<00:32:56.220> and<00:32:56.460> and<00:32:56.640> that's<00:32:56.880> pretty<00:32:57.059> much<00:32:57.240> it um and and that’s pretty much it um and and that’s pretty much it um the<00:32:59.100> administrators<00:32:59.700> are<00:33:00.659> part<00:33:00.899> of

33:01 um the administrators are part of um the administrators are part of TRS<00:33:02.940> because<00:33:03.240> as<00:33:03.899> long<00:33:04.080> as<00:33:04.200> you<00:33:04.440> hold<00:33:04.679> a TRS because as long as you hold a TRS because as long as you hold a license<00:33:05.159> with<00:33:05.460> the<00:33:05.640> Department<00:33:05.760> of<00:33:06.059> Education license with the Department of Education license with the Department of Education you<00:33:06.840> are<00:33:06.960> in<00:33:07.080> mtrs<00:33:07.860> retirement<00:33:08.760> so<00:33:09.299> it<00:33:09.419> should you are in mtrs retirement so it should you are in mtrs retirement so it should be<00:33:09.720> the<00:33:09.840> whole<00:33:10.020> admin<00:33:10.500> staff<00:33:10.679> you<00:33:11.100> like<00:33:11.460> you be the whole admin staff you like you be the whole admin staff you like you for<00:33:11.880> example<00:33:12.120> Central<00:33:12.539> admin<00:33:13.019> all<00:33:13.200> that<00:33:13.320> okay for example Central admin all that okay for example Central admin all that okay all<00:33:13.799> right<00:33:13.919> yes<00:33:14.279> so<00:33:14.820> then<00:33:15.000> the<00:33:15.179> other all right yes so then the other all right yes so then the other um<00:33:16.019> uh<00:33:16.620> sort<00:33:17.100> of<00:33:17.220> cost<00:33:17.820> pressure<00:33:18.299> must<00:33:18.659> be<00:33:18.840> the um uh sort of cost pressure must be the um uh sort of cost pressure must be the um<00:33:19.740> medical<00:33:20.179> yes<00:33:21.179> so<00:33:21.419> the<00:33:21.539> medical<00:33:21.720> is<00:33:22.080> going um medical yes so the medical is going um medical yes so the medical is going to<00:33:22.320> be<00:33:22.440> the<00:33:22.559> significant<00:33:23.039> piece<00:33:23.340> absolutely to be the significant piece absolutely to be the significant piece absolutely um I<00:33:24.960> mean<00:33:25.140> my<00:33:25.740> previous<00:33:25.919> District<00:33:26.279> we<00:33:26.700> were um I mean my previous District we were um I mean my previous District we were in<00:33:27.000> a<00:33:27.120> regional<00:33:27.419> district<00:33:27.600> so<00:33:27.899> I<00:33:28.140> had<00:33:28.320> my<00:33:28.740> own in a regional district so I had my own in a regional district so I had my own pool<00:33:29.700> of<00:33:30.000> health<00:33:30.240> insurance<00:33:30.480> and<00:33:30.899> and<00:33:31.200> plans pool of health insurance and and plans pool of health insurance and and plans that<00:33:31.980> I<00:33:32.159> had<00:33:32.220> to<00:33:32.399> manage<00:33:32.700> and<00:33:33.299> basically<00:33:33.600> you that I had to manage and basically you that I had to manage and basically you do<00:33:33.899> you<00:33:34.080> need<00:33:34.260> to<00:33:34.380> look<00:33:34.500> at<00:33:34.679> historically<00:33:35.340> what do you need to look at historically what do you need to look at historically what you’ve<00:33:36.059> been<00:33:36.240> paying<00:33:36.539> you<00:33:36.720> know<00:33:36.840> what you’ve been paying you know what you’ve been paying you know what percentage<00:33:37.380> of<00:33:37.500> your<00:33:37.620> employees<00:33:38.039> are<00:33:38.279> taking percentage of your employees are taking percentage of your employees are taking advantage<00:33:38.940> of<00:33:39.000> the<00:33:39.240> plans advantage of the plans advantage of the plans um<00:33:41.039> then<00:33:41.519> you<00:33:41.700> need<00:33:41.820> to<00:33:41.940> look<00:33:42.059> at<00:33:42.299> how<00:33:42.720> many um then you need to look at how many um then you need to look at how many how<00:33:44.159> many<00:33:44.340> members<00:33:44.820> joined<00:33:45.419> during<00:33:45.539> the<00:33:45.779> open how many members joined during the open how many members joined during the open enrollments<00:33:47.159> um<00:33:47.220> you<00:33:47.340> know<00:33:47.460> if<00:33:47.700> you're<00:33:47.880> seeing

33:48 enrollments um you know if you’re seeing enrollments um you know if you’re seeing the<00:33:48.360> trends<00:33:48.779> for<00:33:49.019> more<00:33:49.320> people<00:33:49.500> picking<00:33:49.860> up the trends for more people picking up the trends for more people picking up plans<00:33:50.340> or<00:33:50.760> dropping<00:33:51.179> off<00:33:51.299> plans<00:33:51.720> and<00:33:52.380> then<00:33:52.500> you plans or dropping off plans and then you plans or dropping off plans and then you also<00:33:52.860> need<00:33:53.039> to<00:33:53.159> look<00:33:53.340> at<00:33:53.760> anticipating also need to look at anticipating also need to look at anticipating um<00:33:55.200> additional<00:33:55.740> positions<00:33:56.700> if<00:33:56.940> you're<00:33:57.000> adding um additional positions if you’re adding um additional positions if you’re adding a<00:33:57.419> new<00:33:57.539> position<00:33:57.720> you<00:33:58.140> also<00:33:58.320> need<00:33:58.500> to<00:33:58.620> make a new position you also need to make a new position you also need to make sure<00:33:58.919> your<00:33:59.220> budget<00:33:59.519> for<00:33:59.880> you<00:34:00.360> know<00:34:00.539> for<00:34:01.380> that sure your budget for you know for that sure your budget for you know for that cost<00:34:02.000> assuming<00:34:03.000> that<00:34:03.299> they<00:34:03.539> want<00:34:03.720> to<00:34:03.960> pick<00:34:04.320> up cost assuming that they want to pick up cost assuming that they want to pick up on<00:34:04.679> health<00:34:04.799> insurance<00:34:05.039> so<00:34:05.820> it<00:34:05.940> is<00:34:06.120> it<00:34:06.419> it's on health insurance so it is it it’s on health insurance so it is it it’s it’s<00:34:07.339> another<00:34:08.339> whole<00:34:08.879> budgeting<00:34:09.800> exercise it’s another whole budgeting exercise it’s another whole budgeting exercise and<00:34:11.580> projection<00:34:12.060> that<00:34:12.659> we<00:34:12.780> would<00:34:12.960> need<00:34:13.139> to and projection that we would need to and projection that we would need to take<00:34:13.440> on take on take on um<00:34:14.580> but<00:34:14.820> certainly<00:34:15.119> we<00:34:15.480> need<00:34:15.659> the<00:34:15.899> historical um but certainly we need the historical um but certainly we need the historical data<00:34:16.740> in<00:34:16.919> terms<00:34:17.159> of<00:34:17.280> how<00:34:17.879> many<00:34:18.000> individual data in terms of how many individual data in terms of how many individual plans<00:34:18.899> how<00:34:19.260> many<00:34:19.379> family<00:34:19.679> plans plans how many family plans plans how many family plans um<00:34:20.940> and<00:34:21.119> on<00:34:21.300> what<00:34:21.659> on<00:34:22.379> What<00:34:22.919> specific<00:34:23.220> plans<00:34:23.639> we um and on what on What specific plans we um and on what on What specific plans we offer<00:34:24.240> a<00:34:24.540> variety<00:34:24.780> of<00:34:25.080> plans<00:34:25.320> through<00:34:25.500> the<00:34:25.679> GIC offer a variety of plans through the GIC offer a variety of plans through the GIC so<00:34:27.060> we<00:34:27.300> need<00:34:27.419> to<00:34:27.540> know<00:34:27.659> those<00:34:27.899> breakdowns so we need to know those breakdowns so we need to know those breakdowns so<00:34:29.820> that<00:34:30.119> would<00:34:30.240> be<00:34:30.359> something<00:34:30.599> I<00:34:31.020> think<00:34:31.139> you'd so that would be something I think you’d so that would be something I think you’d probably<00:34:31.619> go<00:34:31.859> into<00:34:31.980> that<00:34:32.280> meeting<00:34:32.460> or<00:34:32.820> ahead

34:33 probably go into that meeting or ahead probably go into that meeting or ahead of<00:34:33.240> time<00:34:33.359> with<00:34:33.899> you<00:34:34.679> know<00:34:34.740> in<00:34:35.040> the<00:34:35.159> format<00:34:35.460> you of time with you know in the format you of time with you know in the format you want<00:34:35.760> to<00:34:35.879> receive<00:34:36.119> it<00:34:36.240> and<00:34:36.480> you<00:34:36.659> know<00:34:36.780> what<00:34:36.899> I want to receive it and you know what I want to receive it and you know what I get<00:34:37.260> whatever<00:34:37.500> I<00:34:37.740> guess<00:34:37.859> you'd<00:34:38.099> work<00:34:38.220> that get whatever I guess you’d work that get whatever I guess you’d work that through<00:34:38.520> with<00:34:38.879> the<00:34:39.119> finance<00:34:39.720> director through with the finance director through with the finance director absolutely absolutely absolutely okay okay okay so<00:34:44.099> we're<00:34:44.339> gonna<00:34:44.460> need<00:34:44.700> that<00:34:44.879> and<00:34:45.060> we're<00:34:45.179> gonna so we’re gonna need that and we’re gonna so we’re gonna need that and we’re gonna I<00:34:45.599> mean<00:34:45.720> I'm<00:34:45.839> asking<00:34:46.200> for<00:34:46.320> the<00:34:46.440> breakdown<00:34:46.800> I I mean I’m asking for the breakdown I I mean I’m asking for the breakdown I mean<00:34:47.040> I've<00:34:47.220> been<00:34:47.700> shutting<00:34:48.240> it<00:34:48.359> from<00:34:48.419> the mean I’ve been shutting it from the mean I’ve been shutting it from the rooftops<00:34:48.960> that<00:34:49.139> I'm<00:34:49.320> asking<00:34:49.679> for<00:34:49.800> the rooftops that I’m asking for the rooftops that I’m asking for the breakdown<00:34:50.220> of<00:34:50.520> our<00:34:50.639> Personnel breakdown of our Personnel breakdown of our Personnel um<00:34:52.020> in<00:34:52.260> each<00:34:52.440> building um in each building um in each building um<00:34:54.320> and<00:34:55.399> that<00:34:56.399> That's<00:34:56.700> the<00:34:56.940> basis<00:34:57.240> of<00:34:57.359> what<00:34:57.540> we um and that That’s the basis of what we um and that That’s the basis of what we are<00:34:57.780> going<00:34:57.960> to<00:34:58.080> go<00:34:58.560> to<00:34:58.980> build<00:34:59.160> a<00:34:59.400> budget<00:34:59.700> for are going to go to build a budget for are going to go to build a budget for fy25 fy25 fy25 yes yes yes and<00:35:05.820> we<00:35:06.000> can<00:35:06.119> certainly<00:35:06.359> put<00:35:06.599> that<00:35:06.780> together and we can certainly put that together and we can certainly put that together and<00:35:07.200> I<00:35:07.380> think<00:35:07.500> you<00:35:07.740> know<00:35:07.800> I'm and I think you know I’m and I think you know I’m I<00:35:09.180> know<00:35:09.300> we've<00:35:09.540> talked<00:35:09.720> about<00:35:09.780> this<00:35:10.020> before I know we’ve talked about this before I know we’ve talked about this before but<00:35:10.740> I'm<00:35:10.920> having<00:35:11.099> all<00:35:11.280> kinds<00:35:11.579> of<00:35:11.579> ideas<00:35:11.760> about but I’m having all kinds of ideas about but I’m having all kinds of ideas about how<00:35:12.599> we<00:35:12.960> can<00:35:13.680> um<00:35:13.740> reflect<00:35:14.160> that<00:35:14.339> so<00:35:14.640> it's<00:35:14.820> very how we can um reflect that so it’s very how we can um reflect that so it’s very very<00:35:16.500> user<00:35:16.980> friendly

35:18 very user friendly very user friendly so<00:35:18.540> I<00:35:18.839> think<00:35:19.020> that's<00:35:19.140> a<00:35:19.320> great<00:35:19.440> addition<00:35:19.740> to so I think that’s a great addition to so I think that’s a great addition to our<00:35:20.040> budget<00:35:20.280> packet<00:35:20.640> this<00:35:20.880> year<00:35:21.000> I<00:35:21.540> mean<00:35:21.660> do our budget packet this year I mean do our budget packet this year I mean do you<00:35:22.200> Michelle<00:35:22.740> in<00:35:23.160> your<00:35:23.339> like<00:35:23.640> previous you Michelle in your like previous you Michelle in your like previous Library<00:35:24.300> I<00:35:24.780> mean<00:35:24.900> is<00:35:25.380> it Library I mean is it Library I mean is it common<00:35:27.720> for<00:35:28.440> public<00:35:28.920> school common for public school common for public school districts<00:35:30.900> to<00:35:31.140> be districts to be districts to be budgeting<00:35:32.940> on<00:35:33.599> the<00:35:33.720> building<00:35:33.900> level<00:35:34.200> for budgeting on the building level for budgeting on the building level for everything<00:35:34.980> like<00:35:35.339> in<00:35:35.400> other<00:35:35.520> words<00:35:35.700> this everything like in other words this everything like in other words this building<00:35:36.599> is<00:35:37.380> going<00:35:37.500> to<00:35:37.619> get<00:35:37.740> a<00:35:37.859> budget<00:35:38.160> this building is going to get a budget this building is going to get a budget this principal<00:35:39.180> is<00:35:39.300> going<00:35:39.420> to<00:35:39.540> get<00:35:39.599> a<00:35:39.720> budget principal is going to get a budget principal is going to get a budget and<00:35:41.760> within<00:35:42.119> that<00:35:42.359> he<00:35:43.079> or<00:35:43.260> she<00:35:43.440> needs<00:35:43.859> to and within that he or she needs to and within that he or she needs to manage manage manage Personnel<00:35:46.079> supplies Personnel supplies Personnel supplies utilities

35:53 yes and no yes and no um um um most<00:35:56.460> places<00:35:56.880> the<00:35:57.480> principles<00:35:58.079> definitely most places the principles definitely most places the principles definitely manage<00:35:59.160> their<00:35:59.520> supplies<00:36:00.060> and<00:36:00.420> their<00:36:00.660> expenses manage their supplies and their expenses manage their supplies and their expenses utilities<00:36:02.640> are<00:36:03.119> usually<00:36:03.599> I<00:36:04.560> have<00:36:04.740> found<00:36:04.980> that utilities are usually I have found that utilities are usually I have found that they’re<00:36:05.460> more<00:36:05.700> Consolidated they’re more Consolidated they’re more Consolidated um<00:36:07.760> just<00:36:08.760> because<00:36:09.380> when<00:36:10.380> we<00:36:10.619> do<00:36:10.740> break<00:36:10.980> it<00:36:11.220> down um just because when we do break it down um just because when we do break it down by<00:36:11.880> building<00:36:12.480> we<00:36:12.960> find<00:36:13.079> that<00:36:13.320> one<00:36:13.500> building's by building we find that one building’s by building we find that one building’s going<00:36:14.099> over<00:36:14.339> the<00:36:14.579> budget<00:36:14.820> one<00:36:15.060> building's going over the budget one building’s going over the budget one building’s going<00:36:15.780> under<00:36:16.020> budget<00:36:16.500> and<00:36:17.099> it's<00:36:17.280> just<00:36:17.520> more<00:36:17.820> of going under budget and it’s just more of going under budget and it’s just more of an<00:36:18.119> administrative<00:36:18.680> task<00:36:19.680> to<00:36:20.040> try<00:36:20.220> to<00:36:20.520> manage an administrative task to try to manage an administrative task to try to manage that<00:36:21.420> so<00:36:21.660> we<00:36:21.839> usually<00:36:22.079> consolidate<00:36:22.680> that<00:36:22.800> plus that so we usually consolidate that plus that so we usually consolidate that plus the<00:36:23.280> department<00:36:23.460> of<00:36:23.700> Ed<00:36:23.880> only<00:36:24.060> requires<00:36:24.660> us<00:36:24.839> to the department of Ed only requires us to the department of Ed only requires us to report<00:36:25.920> those<00:36:26.339> expenditures<00:36:26.880> by<00:36:27.359> category report those expenditures by category report those expenditures by category and<00:36:28.140> not<00:36:28.260> by<00:36:28.500> building<00:36:28.740> there<00:36:29.520> are<00:36:29.640> certain and not by building there are certain and not by building there are certain groupings<00:36:30.180> that<00:36:30.480> have<00:36:30.660> to<00:36:30.720> be<00:36:30.839> reported<00:36:31.260> by groupings that have to be reported by groupings that have to be reported by building<00:36:31.560> any<00:36:31.980> educational<00:36:32.460> cost<00:36:32.820> has<00:36:33.060> to<00:36:33.240> be building any educational cost has to be building any educational cost has to be reported<00:36:33.720> by<00:36:33.900> building reported by building reported by building so<00:36:35.460> utilities<00:36:35.820> aren't<00:36:36.000> considered<00:36:36.359> the so utilities aren’t considered the so utilities aren’t considered the educational<00:36:36.839> costs educational costs educational costs um<00:36:38.280> in<00:36:38.520> terms<00:36:38.700> of<00:36:38.820> personnel<00:36:39.420> we<00:36:40.079> do<00:36:40.260> have<00:36:40.500> to

36:40 um in terms of personnel we do have to um in terms of personnel we do have to report<00:36:40.740> those<00:36:41.099> by<00:36:41.280> building<00:36:41.460> that's report those by building that’s report those by building that’s something<00:36:42.060> that<00:36:42.240> Emma<00:36:42.540> and<00:36:42.660> I<00:36:42.780> struggle<00:36:43.079> with something that Emma and I struggle with something that Emma and I struggle with every<00:36:43.440> year<00:36:43.619> because<00:36:43.859> we<00:36:44.220> always<00:36:44.400> have<00:36:44.760> a every year because we always have a every year because we always have a certain<00:36:45.119> number<00:36:45.359> of<00:36:45.720> district-wide<00:36:46.380> people certain number of district-wide people certain number of district-wide people um<00:36:47.520> and<00:36:47.760> not<00:36:48.000> considering<00:36:48.359> Administration um and not considering Administration um and not considering Administration like<00:36:49.140> myself<00:36:49.440> I<00:36:50.099> am<00:36:50.280> just<00:36:50.460> a<00:36:50.579> district-wide like myself I am just a district-wide like myself I am just a district-wide person<00:36:51.300> but<00:36:52.140> when<00:36:52.440> you<00:36:52.619> have<00:36:53.040> service person but when you have service person but when you have service providers<00:36:54.480> if<00:36:55.260> you<00:36:55.380> have<00:36:55.500> someone<00:36:55.800> that's providers if you have someone that’s providers if you have someone that’s servicing<00:36:56.760> kids<00:36:56.940> in<00:36:57.300> more<00:36:57.420> than<00:36:57.540> one<00:36:57.720> building servicing kids in more than one building servicing kids in more than one building we<00:36:58.320> have<00:36:58.440> to<00:36:58.680> allocate<00:36:59.160> them<00:36:59.339> we<00:36:59.640> can't<00:36:59.700> just we have to allocate them we can’t just we have to allocate them we can’t just call<00:37:00.180> them<00:37:00.300> a<00:37:00.480> district-wide<00:37:01.079> person<00:37:01.260> they're call them a district-wide person they’re call them a district-wide person they’re servicing<00:37:02.040> kids<00:37:02.280> they<00:37:02.640> need<00:37:02.820> to<00:37:02.940> be<00:37:03.060> reported servicing kids they need to be reported servicing kids they need to be reported in<00:37:03.660> a<00:37:03.780> school<00:37:03.900> or<00:37:04.320> allocation<00:37:04.859> of<00:37:05.099> their in a school or allocation of their in a school or allocation of their costumes<00:37:05.820> reported<00:37:06.660> in<00:37:06.780> school costumes reported in school costumes reported in school so<00:37:07.980> that's<00:37:08.160> something<00:37:08.460> we<00:37:08.760> we<00:37:08.940> try<00:37:09.180> to<00:37:09.300> be so that’s something we we try to be so that’s something we we try to be really really really um<00:37:10.500> precise<00:37:10.920> on um precise on um precise on we<00:37:13.859> can<00:37:14.040> put<00:37:14.460> management<00:37:14.820> of<00:37:15.300> the<00:37:15.480> Personnel we can put management of the Personnel we can put management of the Personnel costs costs costs on<00:37:18.119> the<00:37:18.480> principles<00:37:18.839> we<00:37:19.200> really<00:37:19.380> haven't<00:37:19.740> we on the principles we really haven’t we on the principles we really haven’t we have<00:37:20.880> in<00:37:21.000> terms<00:37:21.300> of<00:37:21.420> okay<00:37:22.140> you<00:37:23.040> have<00:37:23.280> you<00:37:23.700> know have in terms of okay you have you know have in terms of okay you have you know three<00:37:24.119> teacher<00:37:24.540> openings<00:37:24.900> we<00:37:25.320> only<00:37:25.500> budgeted

37:26 three teacher openings we only budgeted three teacher openings we only budgeted for<00:37:26.339> an<00:37:26.520> M4<00:37:26.880> an<00:37:27.240> M5<00:37:27.660> try<00:37:28.380> to<00:37:28.560> make<00:37:28.680> sure<00:37:28.800> you for an M4 an M5 try to make sure you for an M4 an M5 try to make sure you live<00:37:29.099> within<00:37:29.400> those<00:37:29.579> means<00:37:30.000> and<00:37:30.480> we<00:37:30.660> always live within those means and we always live within those means and we always have<00:37:31.200> a<00:37:31.440> little<00:37:31.560> bit<00:37:31.740> of<00:37:31.859> a<00:37:31.980> surplus<00:37:32.400> every have a little bit of a surplus every have a little bit of a surplus every year<00:37:32.940> we<00:37:33.180> typically<00:37:33.480> budget<00:37:33.900> about<00:37:34.079> a<00:37:34.380> 50<00:37:34.619> 50 year we typically budget about a 50 50 year we typically budget about a 50 50 000<00:37:35.460> Surplus<00:37:36.500> to<00:37:37.500> account<00:37:37.680> for 000 Surplus to account for 000 Surplus to account for you<00:37:39.780> know<00:37:39.900> a<00:37:40.560> little<00:37:40.619> bit<00:37:40.800> of<00:37:40.980> variation<00:37:41.400> in you know a little bit of variation in you know a little bit of variation in terms<00:37:41.880> of<00:37:42.000> hiring terms of hiring terms of hiring um<00:37:43.859> but<00:37:44.160> we<00:37:44.280> haven't<00:37:44.460> really<00:37:44.820> put<00:37:45.180> the um but we haven’t really put the um but we haven’t really put the management<00:37:45.839> of management of management of of<00:37:47.820> those<00:37:48.300> specific<00:37:48.720> costs<00:37:49.260> onto<00:37:49.680> the of those specific costs onto the of those specific costs onto the principles<00:37:50.160> which<00:37:50.460> is<00:37:50.579> something<00:37:50.760> we principles which is something we principles which is something we certainly<00:37:51.300> could certainly could certainly could um<00:37:52.859> but<00:37:53.339> they<00:37:53.700> work<00:37:53.880> extremely<00:37:54.420> closely<00:37:54.780> with um but they work extremely closely with um but they work extremely closely with with<00:37:55.140> my<00:37:55.680> office<00:37:55.859> and<00:37:56.160> if<00:37:56.339> you<00:37:56.579> know with my office and if you know with my office and if you know if it’s<00:37:57.960> a<00:37:58.140> question<00:37:58.260> if<00:37:58.560> tutors<00:37:58.980> can<00:37:59.160> put<00:37:59.339> an if it’s a question if tutors can put an if it’s a question if tutors can put an extra<00:37:59.640> you<00:38:00.300> know<00:38:00.420> couple<00:38:00.960> hours<00:38:01.260> in<00:38:01.619> for<00:38:01.859> some extra you know couple hours in for some extra you know couple hours in for some student<00:38:02.339> need<00:38:02.760> they<00:38:03.240> always<00:38:03.420> come<00:38:03.660> to<00:38:03.780> me<00:38:03.900> for student need they always come to me for student need they always come to me for permission<00:38:04.560> so<00:38:05.400> I'm<00:38:05.820> kind<00:38:06.000> of<00:38:06.119> managing<00:38:06.540> that permission so I’m kind of managing that permission so I’m kind of managing that at<00:38:06.900> a<00:38:07.020> higher<00:38:07.320> level at a higher level at a higher level um<00:38:08.700> but<00:38:08.880> it's<00:38:09.000> something<00:38:09.180> we<00:38:09.420> could<00:38:09.540> talk um but it’s something we could talk um but it’s something we could talk about<00:38:10.140> putting<00:38:10.500> it<00:38:10.619> on<00:38:10.740> I<00:38:11.040> mean<00:38:11.160> the<00:38:11.400> reason

38:11 about putting it on I mean the reason about putting it on I mean the reason why<00:38:11.760> because<00:38:12.000> I<00:38:12.180> just<00:38:12.300> think<00:38:12.480> when<00:38:12.660> we<00:38:12.839> if<00:38:13.140> we why because I just think when we if we why because I just think when we if we go<00:38:13.440> to<00:38:13.560> this<00:38:13.800> new<00:38:14.040> when<00:38:14.760> we<00:38:14.880> go<00:38:15.060> to<00:38:15.180> this<00:38:15.359> new go to this new when we go to this new go to this new when we go to this new methodology<00:38:16.920> where<00:38:17.400> we're<00:38:17.579> all<00:38:17.820> you<00:38:18.060> know<00:38:18.240> all methodology where we’re all you know all methodology where we’re all you know all costs<00:38:18.960> direct<00:38:19.380> and<00:38:19.619> indirect<00:38:19.920> are<00:38:20.220> coming costs direct and indirect are coming costs direct and indirect are coming into<00:38:20.700> our<00:38:20.880> budget into our budget into our budget we<00:38:22.500> want<00:38:22.800> our<00:38:23.220> administrators<00:38:23.880> to<00:38:24.119> be we want our administrators to be we want our administrators to be thinking<00:38:24.660> about<00:38:24.839> that<00:38:25.140> right<00:38:25.500> so<00:38:25.740> when<00:38:25.980> you're thinking about that right so when you’re thinking about that right so when you’re when<00:38:26.460> you're<00:38:26.640> looking<00:38:26.820> to<00:38:27.180> build<00:38:27.680> your when you’re looking to build your when you’re looking to build your building<00:38:29.280> of building of building of um<00:38:30.599> resources<00:38:31.440> you<00:38:31.680> need<00:38:31.859> in<00:38:32.160> terms<00:38:32.339> of um resources you need in terms of um resources you need in terms of personnel<00:38:32.940> that personnel that personnel that there<00:38:35.040> are<00:38:35.280> long-term<00:38:35.820> cause<00:38:36.060> there<00:38:36.480> are there are long-term cause there are there are long-term cause there are indirect<00:38:37.140> costs<00:38:37.560> associated<00:38:38.099> with<00:38:38.460> you<00:38:38.700> know indirect costs associated with you know indirect costs associated with you know hiring<00:38:39.240> whoever<00:38:39.599> you're<00:38:39.780> hiring<00:38:40.200> and<00:38:40.859> that<00:38:41.820> is hiring whoever you’re hiring and that is hiring whoever you’re hiring and that is you<00:38:42.180> know<00:38:42.300> because<00:38:42.420> I<00:38:42.780> could<00:38:43.320> I<00:38:43.980> am<00:38:44.160> not<00:38:44.339> an you know because I could I am not an you know because I could I am not an accountant<00:38:44.940> but<00:38:45.180> I<00:38:45.420> can<00:38:45.540> just<00:38:45.660> Envision<00:38:46.079> like accountant but I can just Envision like accountant but I can just Envision like this this this escalating<00:38:49.200> you<00:38:50.040> know<00:38:50.099> set<00:38:50.460> of<00:38:50.700> costs<00:38:50.940> on<00:38:51.180> the escalating you know set of costs on the escalating you know set of costs on the indirect<00:38:51.480> side<00:38:51.780> that<00:38:52.200> you<00:38:52.440> can<00:38:53.220> easily<00:38:53.579> get indirect side that you can easily get indirect side that you can easily get out<00:38:53.880> of<00:38:54.000> control<00:38:54.119> if<00:38:54.599> we're<00:38:54.780> not<00:38:54.960> on<00:38:55.380> on<00:38:55.619> top<00:38:55.800> of out of control if we’re not on on top of out of control if we’re not on on top of it<00:38:56.040> on<00:38:56.280> the<00:38:56.640> flip<00:38:56.820> side<00:38:56.940> it<00:38:57.359> can<00:38:57.540> also<00:38:57.780> be<00:38:58.020> uh

38:59 it on the flip side it can also be uh it on the flip side it can also be uh um um um there<00:39:01.560> can<00:39:01.680> be<00:39:01.740> surpluses<00:39:02.339> and<00:39:02.520> it<00:39:03.000> can there can be surpluses and it can there can be surpluses and it can actually<00:39:03.300> be<00:39:03.420> a<00:39:03.540> benefit<00:39:03.660> yeah<00:39:04.020> it<00:39:04.140> can<00:39:04.320> be<00:39:04.740> a actually be a benefit yeah it can be a actually be a benefit yeah it can be a benefit<00:39:05.040> it<00:39:05.640> it<00:39:06.060> is benefit it it is benefit it it is um<00:39:07.380> it's<00:39:07.800> a<00:39:07.920> management<00:39:08.099> issue<00:39:08.760> absolutely um it’s a management issue absolutely um it’s a management issue absolutely um and<00:39:10.680> that's<00:39:10.859> what<00:39:11.040> it<00:39:11.220> really<00:39:11.339> comes<00:39:11.700> down um and that’s what it really comes down um and that’s what it really comes down to<00:39:12.000> yeah<00:39:12.599> that's<00:39:13.200> what<00:39:13.380> it<00:39:13.500> comes<00:39:13.680> down<00:39:13.800> to<00:39:13.920> and to yeah that’s what it comes down to and to yeah that’s what it comes down to and separately<00:39:14.700> I<00:39:14.880> mean<00:39:15.140> we<00:39:16.140> would<00:39:16.380> be separately I mean we would be separately I mean we would be managing<00:39:19.560> it<00:39:19.680> just<00:39:19.859> like<00:39:19.920> we<00:39:20.040> manage<00:39:20.339> any managing it just like we manage any managing it just like we manage any other<00:39:20.700> portion<00:39:21.000> of<00:39:21.119> our<00:39:21.300> budget<00:39:21.599> it's<00:39:21.780> just other portion of our budget it’s just other portion of our budget it’s just something<00:39:22.140> that<00:39:22.440> we<00:39:22.619> haven't<00:39:22.740> done<00:39:22.980> in<00:39:23.220> the something that we haven’t done in the something that we haven’t done in the past<00:39:23.460> in<00:39:24.300> Marblehead<00:39:24.720> anyways past in Marblehead anyways past in Marblehead anyways and<00:39:26.880> I<00:39:27.060> also<00:39:27.420> if<00:39:27.660> we<00:39:27.839> wind<00:39:28.020> up<00:39:28.200> taking<00:39:28.380> this<00:39:28.680> on and I also if we wind up taking this on and I also if we wind up taking this on this<00:39:29.280> year<00:39:29.460> I<00:39:30.000> want<00:39:30.180> us<00:39:30.359> to<00:39:30.660> also<00:39:30.960> look<00:39:31.260> at<00:39:31.980> um this year I want us to also look at um this year I want us to also look at um some<00:39:32.220> type<00:39:32.339> of<00:39:32.460> buyout<00:39:33.000> program<00:39:33.300> because<00:39:33.720> I some type of buyout program because I some type of buyout program because I think<00:39:34.260> that<00:39:34.920> that<00:39:35.160> can<00:39:35.400> be<00:39:35.700> very<00:39:36.500> advantageous think that that can be very advantageous think that that can be very advantageous to<00:39:38.160> both<00:39:38.400> our<00:39:38.880> staff<00:39:39.180> as<00:39:39.660> well<00:39:39.839> as to both our staff as well as to both our staff as well as our<00:39:41.820> our<00:39:42.060> fiscal<00:39:42.480> planning our our fiscal planning our our fiscal planning um<00:39:44.220> you<00:39:44.700> know<00:39:44.760> I<00:39:44.940> I<00:39:45.060> know<00:39:45.599> it's<00:39:45.780> it<00:39:46.079> works<00:39:46.380> in

39:46 um you know I I know it’s it works in um you know I I know it’s it works in the<00:39:46.619> corporate<00:39:46.920> world<00:39:47.099> it<00:39:47.579> works<00:39:47.820> really<00:39:48.000> well the corporate world it works really well the corporate world it works really well in<00:39:48.420> other<00:39:48.599> private<00:39:49.079> and<00:39:49.260> our<00:39:49.560> public<00:39:49.859> entities in other private and our public entities in other private and our public entities that<00:39:50.820> utilize<00:39:51.300> it<00:39:51.599> and<00:39:52.079> I<00:39:52.260> think<00:39:52.380> we<00:39:52.680> need<00:39:52.920> to that utilize it and I think we need to that utilize it and I think we need to um<00:39:54.000> consider<00:39:54.660> that<00:39:54.839> I<00:39:55.619> think<00:39:55.740> that<00:39:55.920> would<00:39:56.040> have um consider that I think that would have um consider that I think that would have to<00:39:56.400> be<00:39:56.700> probably<00:39:57.420> a<00:39:57.720> contract to be probably a contract to be probably a contract issue issue issue but<00:40:01.260> we're<00:40:01.440> also<00:40:01.740> looking<00:40:01.859> at<00:40:02.160> a<00:40:02.460> contract but we’re also looking at a contract but we’re also looking at a contract year<00:40:03.060> so<00:40:03.480> it's year so it’s year so it’s to<00:40:04.800> be<00:40:04.980> part<00:40:05.220> of<00:40:05.400> all<00:40:05.520> of<00:40:05.640> it<00:40:05.760> because<00:40:05.940> so<00:40:06.359> that to be part of all of it because so that to be part of all of it because so that means<00:40:06.960> that<00:40:07.440> being<00:40:07.500> said<00:40:07.680> I<00:40:07.800> know<00:40:07.920> we<00:40:08.099> I<00:40:08.280> don't means that being said I know we I don’t means that being said I know we I don’t know<00:40:08.520> I<00:40:08.700> don't<00:40:08.820> know<00:40:08.940> what<00:40:09.180> our<00:40:09.359> Personnel<00:40:09.960> the know I don’t know what our Personnel the know I don’t know what our Personnel the members<00:40:10.680> of<00:40:10.800> the<00:40:10.920> Marblehead<00:40:11.339> Municipal members of the Marblehead Municipal members of the Marblehead Municipal Employees<00:40:12.480> Union Employees Union Employees Union but<00:40:13.859> if<00:40:13.980> we're<00:40:14.099> going<00:40:14.280> to<00:40:14.400> be<00:40:14.460> taking<00:40:14.640> on<00:40:14.940> those but if we’re going to be taking on those but if we’re going to be taking on those indirect<00:40:15.480> costs<00:40:16.380> I<00:40:16.920> would<00:40:17.040> think<00:40:17.160> we<00:40:17.400> would indirect costs I would think we would indirect costs I would think we would have<00:40:17.880> a<00:40:18.300> seat<00:40:18.480> at<00:40:18.720> the<00:40:18.839> table<00:40:18.960> for<00:40:19.200> those have a seat at the table for those have a seat at the table for those negotiations<00:40:19.859> as<00:40:20.520> well

40:28 in terms of the the healthy in terms of the the healthy well well well the<00:40:30.839> teachers<00:40:31.140> contract<00:40:31.560> yes<00:40:31.980> but<00:40:32.460> the<00:40:32.820> PEC the teachers contract yes but the PEC the teachers contract yes but the PEC um<00:40:34.619> School<00:40:35.040> administration<00:40:35.579> does<00:40:35.820> not<00:40:35.940> have<00:40:36.119> a um School administration does not have a um School administration does not have a seat<00:40:36.359> at<00:40:36.599> that<00:40:36.720> table<00:40:36.900> but<00:40:37.500> we're<00:40:37.619> going<00:40:37.740> to<00:40:37.859> be seat at that table but we’re going to be seat at that table but we’re going to be taking<00:40:38.099> on<00:40:38.400> the<00:40:38.640> costs<00:40:39.000> associated<00:40:39.480> with<00:40:39.780> an taking on the costs associated with an taking on the costs associated with an updated<00:40:40.260> a<00:40:40.500> new<00:40:40.619> contract<00:40:40.980> so<00:40:41.400> my<00:40:42.060> argument<00:40:42.420> is updated a new contract so my argument is updated a new contract so my argument is we<00:40:42.900> might<00:40:43.140> want<00:40:43.980> to we might want to we might want to say<00:40:45.540> we<00:40:45.839> need<00:40:46.260> to<00:40:46.619> have<00:40:46.740> I<00:40:46.859> mean<00:40:47.040> we're<00:40:47.460> going say we need to have I mean we’re going say we need to have I mean we’re going to<00:40:47.880> be<00:40:48.060> taking<00:40:48.480> on<00:40:48.780> the<00:40:48.960> cost<00:40:49.140> of<00:40:49.440> what's to be taking on the cost of what’s to be taking on the cost of what’s associated<00:40:50.760> with<00:40:51.060> I<00:40:51.359> guess<00:40:51.480> what<00:40:51.660> will<00:40:51.780> be<00:40:51.900> a associated with I guess what will be a associated with I guess what will be a new<00:40:52.079> contract<00:40:52.380> is<00:40:52.560> there<00:40:52.680> a<00:40:52.800> contract<00:40:53.040> up<00:40:53.220> this new contract is there a contract up this new contract is there a contract up this year<00:40:53.520> too year too year too yes<00:40:55.200> yeah<00:40:55.500> they're<00:40:55.980> they're<00:40:56.160> going<00:40:56.460> to<00:40:56.579> go yes yeah they’re they’re going to go yes yeah they’re they’re going to go negotiations<00:40:57.240> right<00:40:57.599> now negotiations right now negotiations right now so<00:40:59.579> I<00:40:59.700> guess<00:40:59.760> we<00:40:59.940> don't<00:41:00.060> have<00:41:00.240> a<00:41:00.359> seat<00:41:00.480> at<00:41:00.660> the so I guess we don’t have a seat at the so I guess we don’t have a seat at the table table table currently<00:41:01.980> no<00:41:02.220> but<00:41:02.460> it's<00:41:02.579> something<00:41:02.760> we currently no but it’s something we currently no but it’s something we certainly<00:41:03.300> could<00:41:03.480> discuss<00:41:03.839> next<00:41:04.140> week<00:41:04.320> I<00:41:04.920> mean certainly could discuss next week I mean certainly could discuss next week I mean am<00:41:05.220> I<00:41:05.400> am<00:41:05.700> I<00:41:05.880> off<00:41:06.000> wait<00:41:06.240> I<00:41:06.599> don't<00:41:06.660> like<00:41:07.380> no<00:41:07.800> if am I am I off wait I don’t like no if am I am I off wait I don’t like no if we’re<00:41:08.160> going<00:41:08.339> to<00:41:08.400> be<00:41:08.520> paying<00:41:08.880> for<00:41:09.060> it we’re going to be paying for it we’re going to be paying for it um

41:14 you know that’s a good point you know that’s a good point we<00:41:15.180> should<00:41:15.540> have<00:41:15.720> a<00:41:15.900> say<00:41:16.020> in<00:41:16.320> the<00:41:16.500> outcome we should have a say in the outcome we should have a say in the outcome because<00:41:17.220> you<00:41:17.520> can't<00:41:17.700> just because you can’t just because you can’t just we’ve<00:41:20.280> gone<00:41:20.460> through<00:41:20.640> a<00:41:20.760> period<00:41:21.000> of<00:41:21.180> just we’ve gone through a period of just we’ve gone through a period of just being<00:41:21.480> given<00:41:21.839> bills<00:41:22.200> that<00:41:22.380> we<00:41:22.500> didn't being given bills that we didn’t being given bills that we didn’t necessarily<00:41:23.099> have<00:41:23.280> no<00:41:23.579> but<00:41:23.880> they<00:41:24.000> also<00:41:24.240> in<00:41:24.420> you necessarily have no but they also in you necessarily have no but they also in you know<00:41:24.839> in<00:41:25.260> defense<00:41:25.680> of<00:41:25.800> the<00:41:25.980> town<00:41:26.099> so<00:41:26.280> I<00:41:26.460> mean know in defense of the town so I mean know in defense of the town so I mean for<00:41:26.700> the<00:41:26.880> way<00:41:27.000> this<00:41:27.180> has<00:41:27.300> worked<00:41:27.660> is<00:41:27.780> that<00:41:27.960> they for the way this has worked is that they for the way this has worked is that they took<00:41:28.500> on took on took on the<00:41:30.420> costs<00:41:31.020> associated<00:41:31.680> with<00:41:32.040> this<00:41:32.220> are<00:41:32.820> the the costs associated with this are the the costs associated with this are the downside<00:41:33.420> we<00:41:34.140> were downside we were downside we were blissfully<00:41:35.640> aware<00:41:36.060> of<00:41:36.300> of<00:41:36.780> and<00:41:37.500> encumbered<00:41:38.460> by blissfully aware of of and encumbered by blissfully aware of of and encumbered by the<00:41:38.760> indirect<00:41:39.119> costs<00:41:39.660> for<00:41:40.260> the<00:41:40.440> members<00:41:40.680> of the indirect costs for the members of the indirect costs for the members of the<00:41:41.540> mmeu<00:41:42.540> so<00:41:42.780> it<00:41:43.020> is<00:41:43.079> mmu the mmeu so it is mmu the mmeu so it is mmu um<00:41:44.520> and<00:41:45.240> now<00:41:45.359> we<00:41:45.660> are<00:41:45.839> not<00:41:46.200> now<00:41:46.500> we're<00:41:46.740> going<00:41:46.920> to um and now we are not now we’re going to um and now we are not now we’re going to be<00:41:47.040> taking<00:41:47.220> those<00:41:47.520> on<00:41:47.760> so<00:41:48.060> that's<00:41:48.240> that's<00:41:48.540> all be taking those on so that’s that’s all be taking those on so that’s that’s all I<00:41:49.020> mean<00:41:49.140> you<00:41:49.440> know<00:41:49.560> the<00:41:49.920> town<00:41:50.099> took<00:41:50.460> on<00:41:50.579> the I mean you know the town took on the I mean you know the town took on the responsibility<00:41:51.300> on<00:41:51.720> the<00:41:51.839> town<00:41:51.960> side<00:41:52.200> as<00:41:52.380> well responsibility on the town side as well responsibility on the town side as well as<00:41:52.800> the<00:41:53.579> risk as the risk as the risk um<00:41:55.020> so<00:41:55.560> yeah<00:41:55.859> absolutely

42:01 um all right so oh wait and one last um all right so oh wait and one last thing<00:42:01.740> I<00:42:02.040> was<00:42:02.160> going<00:42:02.280> to<00:42:02.339> ask<00:42:02.520> Sarah<00:42:02.940> about<00:42:03.240> the thing I was going to ask Sarah about the thing I was going to ask Sarah about the meeting<00:42:04.140> so<00:42:04.560> this<00:42:05.040> is<00:42:05.160> all<00:42:05.400> you<00:42:05.880> know<00:42:05.940> the<00:42:06.240> town meeting so this is all you know the town meeting so this is all you know the town appropriated<00:42:07.020> costs<00:42:07.740> and<00:42:07.859> expenses<00:42:08.520> that<00:42:08.820> we appropriated costs and expenses that we appropriated costs and expenses that we are<00:42:09.240> talking<00:42:10.020> about are talking about are talking about changing<00:42:12.420> how<00:42:12.660> we<00:42:12.900> account<00:42:13.140> for<00:42:13.500> it changing how we account for it changing how we account for it um<00:42:14.700> the<00:42:15.000> other<00:42:15.119> question<00:42:15.420> would<00:42:15.780> be um the other question would be um the other question would be um<00:42:17.160> the<00:42:17.460> Chapter<00:42:17.640> 70<00:42:17.940> money

42:23 so that has traditionally also been I so that has traditionally also been I think<00:42:23.640> goes<00:42:24.060> directly<00:42:24.359> to<00:42:24.599> the<00:42:24.839> town think goes directly to the town think goes directly to the town and<00:42:26.880> we<00:42:27.599> are<00:42:27.720> appropriated<00:42:28.380> at<00:42:28.619> town<00:42:28.859> meeting and we are appropriated at town meeting and we are appropriated at town meeting irrespective<00:42:30.599> of<00:42:30.780> what<00:42:31.140> that<00:42:31.320> Chapter<00:42:31.560> 70 irrespective of what that Chapter 70 irrespective of what that Chapter 70 money<00:42:32.220> is<00:42:32.460> so<00:42:32.579> again<00:42:32.760> the<00:42:33.000> town<00:42:33.180> took<00:42:33.540> the<00:42:33.720> risk money is so again the town took the risk money is so again the town took the risk and<00:42:34.200> and<00:42:34.560> the and and the and and the reward<00:42:37.380> like<00:42:37.619> whatever<00:42:37.859> we<00:42:38.099> want<00:42:38.220> a<00:42:38.400> word<00:42:38.520> I reward like whatever we want a word I reward like whatever we want a word I want<00:42:39.000> to<00:42:39.060> use<00:42:39.540> um<00:42:39.660> for<00:42:39.960> the<00:42:40.079> Chapter<00:42:40.260> 70<00:42:40.440> money want to use um for the Chapter 70 money want to use um for the Chapter 70 money but<00:42:41.040> is<00:42:41.160> that<00:42:41.339> something<00:42:41.579> that<00:42:41.880> we<00:42:42.000> want<00:42:42.180> to but is that something that we want to but is that something that we want to look<00:42:42.540> at<00:42:42.720> where<00:42:43.560> by look at where by look at where by the<00:42:45.599> Chapter<00:42:45.720> 70<00:42:45.960> money<00:42:46.320> would<00:42:46.619> be the Chapter 70 money would be the Chapter 70 money would be um<00:42:48.060> you<00:42:48.780> know<00:42:48.839> I<00:42:49.079> don't<00:42:49.260> know<00:42:49.320> how<00:42:49.440> I<00:42:49.560> know<00:42:49.680> what um you know I don’t know how I know what um you know I don’t know how I know what the<00:42:49.859> semantics<00:42:50.220> are<00:42:50.339> but<00:42:50.579> how<00:42:51.000> other the semantics are but how other the semantics are but how other districts<00:42:51.480> do<00:42:51.599> it<00:42:51.720> where<00:42:51.839> the<00:42:51.960> Chapter<00:42:52.079> 70 districts do it where the Chapter 70 districts do it where the Chapter 70 money<00:42:52.680> is<00:42:52.920> appropriated<00:42:53.720> to<00:42:54.720> the<00:42:54.900> school money is appropriated to the school money is appropriated to the school district<00:42:55.380> and<00:42:56.220> then<00:42:56.339> the<00:42:56.579> remaining<00:42:56.940> budget district and then the remaining budget district and then the remaining budget would<00:42:58.980> be<00:42:59.040> appropriated<00:42:59.460> at<00:42:59.700> Town<00:42:59.819> meetings would be appropriated at Town meetings would be appropriated at Town meetings you<00:43:00.720> know<00:43:00.839> through<00:43:01.560> that<00:43:01.800> appropriation you know through that appropriation you know through that appropriation process

43:13 to correct me if I’m wrong to correct me if I’m wrong um<00:43:13.859> chat<00:43:14.400> the<00:43:14.579> chat<00:43:14.880> well<00:43:15.180> the<00:43:15.540> volatility<00:43:16.020> has um chat the chat well the volatility has um chat the chat well the volatility has been<00:43:16.560> absorbed<00:43:16.980> by<00:43:17.160> the<00:43:17.400> town<00:43:17.839> for<00:43:18.839> the been absorbed by the town for the been absorbed by the town for the Chapter<00:43:19.800> 70<00:43:20.099> money<00:43:20.579> it<00:43:21.300> is<00:43:21.480> never<00:43:21.720> actually Chapter 70 money it is never actually Chapter 70 money it is never actually come<00:43:23.520> in<00:43:23.760> less come in less come in less than<00:43:25.560> what<00:43:25.740> was<00:43:25.920> budgeted than what was budgeted than what was budgeted I<00:43:28.319> think<00:43:28.440> it<00:43:28.680> did<00:43:28.920> I<00:43:29.220> thought<00:43:29.700> it<00:43:29.880> did<00:43:30.060> like<00:43:30.240> an I think it did I thought it did like an I think it did I thought it did like an 0708<00:43:31.319> it<00:43:32.040> was<00:43:32.220> one<00:43:32.460> year 0708 it was one year 0708 it was one year okay<00:43:34.079> during<00:43:34.680> that<00:43:34.920> recession<00:43:35.280> yeah<00:43:35.579> I okay during that recession yeah I okay during that recession yeah I believe<00:43:35.940> it<00:43:36.119> was<00:43:36.300> fiscal<00:43:36.720> 09<00:43:37.079> when<00:43:37.500> yeah<00:43:38.040> when believe it was fiscal 09 when yeah when believe it was fiscal 09 when yeah when that<00:43:38.520> happened<00:43:38.700> yes<00:43:39.180> and<00:43:39.720> it<00:43:39.900> was<00:43:39.960> small<00:43:40.200> but that happened yes and it was small but that happened yes and it was small but it<00:43:40.560> was<00:43:40.680> there<00:43:40.800> that<00:43:40.980> was<00:43:41.160> moving<00:43:41.339> the<00:43:41.700> very it was there that was moving the very it was there that was moving the very significant<00:43:43.020> recession

43:49 um yeah no I mean I think if we’re um yeah no I mean I think if we’re looking<00:43:49.500> to<00:43:49.980> really<00:43:50.400> establish<00:43:51.180> clearly<00:43:51.839> what looking to really establish clearly what looking to really establish clearly what are<00:43:52.680> the<00:43:52.800> revenues<00:43:53.220> what<00:43:53.760> are<00:43:53.940> the<00:43:54.060> costs<00:43:54.540> what are the revenues what are the costs what are the revenues what are the costs what does<00:43:55.380> it<00:43:55.560> cost<00:43:55.859> to<00:43:56.339> educate<00:43:56.819> our<00:43:57.240> students does it cost to educate our students does it cost to educate our students then<00:43:58.380> it<00:43:58.619> makes<00:43:58.800> sense<00:43:59.220> to<00:43:59.819> open<00:44:00.119> up<00:44:00.359> all<00:44:00.839> the then it makes sense to open up all the then it makes sense to open up all the discussions<00:44:01.619> and<00:44:02.460> I<00:44:02.640> don't<00:44:02.760> know<00:44:02.880> where discussions and I don’t know where discussions and I don’t know where they’ll<00:44:03.359> go<00:44:03.599> but<00:44:03.900> they<00:44:04.319> at<00:44:04.440> least<00:44:04.560> need<00:44:04.800> to<00:44:04.920> be they’ll go but they at least need to be they’ll go but they at least need to be discussed discussed discussed right<00:44:07.680> I<00:44:07.980> mean<00:44:08.160> Chapter<00:44:08.460> 70<00:44:08.880> is<00:44:09.420> not<00:44:09.720> it's<00:44:10.260> easy right I mean Chapter 70 is not it’s easy right I mean Chapter 70 is not it’s easy as<00:44:11.819> it<00:44:12.119> sounds<00:44:12.300> to<00:44:12.599> just<00:44:12.839> have<00:44:13.140> it as it sounds to just have it as it sounds to just have it appropriated<00:44:14.700> to<00:44:15.060> us<00:44:15.240> when<00:44:16.200> we<00:44:16.319> go<00:44:16.500> into<00:44:16.680> town appropriated to us when we go into town appropriated to us when we go into town meeting<00:44:17.280> the<00:44:18.180> town<00:44:18.359> has<00:44:18.660> an<00:44:18.839> estimate<00:44:19.200> of<00:44:19.319> what meeting the town has an estimate of what meeting the town has an estimate of what they<00:44:19.680> think<00:44:19.800> we're<00:44:20.040> going<00:44:20.220> to<00:44:20.280> receive<00:44:20.520> in they think we’re going to receive in they think we’re going to receive in chapter<00:44:20.880> in<00:44:21.540> terms<00:44:21.720> of<00:44:21.780> chapter<00:44:22.079> 70.<00:44:22.680> this chapter in terms of chapter 70. this chapter in terms of chapter 70. this particular<00:44:23.700> year<00:44:24.000> it<00:44:24.660> wasn't<00:44:24.839> even<00:44:25.079> set<00:44:25.440> until particular year it wasn’t even set until particular year it wasn’t even set until I<00:44:26.339> believe<00:44:26.400> July<00:44:27.000> at<00:44:27.300> this<00:44:27.420> point I believe July at this point I believe July at this point um<00:44:28.680> so<00:44:29.040> the<00:44:29.220> actual<00:44:29.460> number<00:44:29.700> wasn't<00:44:30.060> known um so the actual number wasn’t known um so the actual number wasn’t known until<00:44:30.480> July<00:44:30.960> and<00:44:31.079> that's<00:44:31.260> what<00:44:31.440> I<00:44:31.560> I<00:44:31.680> had until July and that’s what I I had until July and that’s what I I had people<00:44:32.040> coming<00:44:32.280> to<00:44:32.460> me<00:44:32.579> and<00:44:32.700> be<00:44:32.819> like<00:44:32.940> oh<00:44:33.060> so people coming to me and be like oh so people coming to me and be like oh so what<00:44:33.359> are<00:44:33.480> you<00:44:33.540> doing<00:44:33.660> with<00:44:33.780> the<00:44:33.900> extra what are you doing with the extra what are you doing with the extra Chapter<00:44:34.319> 70<00:44:34.619> month<00:44:34.980> I'm<00:44:35.339> like<00:44:35.460> well<00:44:35.700> our<00:44:36.060> we

44:36 Chapter 70 month I’m like well our we Chapter 70 month I’m like well our we need<00:44:36.599> an<00:44:36.720> allocation<00:44:37.140> was<00:44:37.920> determined<00:44:38.460> back need an allocation was determined back need an allocation was determined back in<00:44:38.760> May<00:44:38.940> so<00:44:39.720> not<00:44:40.380> receiving<00:44:40.740> anything<00:44:40.980> any in May so not receiving anything any in May so not receiving anything any part<00:44:41.640> of<00:44:41.819> that<00:44:42.000> well<00:44:42.420> what<00:44:42.660> do<00:44:42.780> other part of that well what do other part of that well what do other districts<00:44:43.440> do districts do districts do they<00:44:45.180> pretty<00:44:45.359> much<00:44:45.480> do<00:44:45.660> the<00:44:45.839> same<00:44:46.020> thing they pretty much do the same thing they pretty much do the same thing unless<00:44:46.619> they<00:44:46.859> have<00:44:46.980> a<00:44:47.160> fall<00:44:47.280> town<00:44:47.579> meeting unless they have a fall town meeting unless they have a fall town meeting where<00:44:48.720> they<00:44:49.260> have<00:44:49.380> an<00:44:49.500> agreement<00:44:49.740> with<00:44:49.920> the where they have an agreement with the where they have an agreement with the town<00:44:50.400> and<00:44:51.240> any<00:44:51.780> additional<00:44:52.319> funds<00:44:52.740> are<00:44:52.859> then town and any additional funds are then town and any additional funds are then appropriated<00:44:53.520> to<00:44:53.760> them<00:44:53.880> at<00:44:54.000> a<00:44:54.119> fall<00:44:54.240> time appropriated to them at a fall time appropriated to them at a fall time meeting meeting meeting um<00:44:56.040> but<00:44:56.339> we<00:44:56.880> don't<00:44:57.000> usually<00:44:57.300> have<00:44:57.480> that um but we don’t usually have that um but we don’t usually have that mechanism<00:44:58.079> so<00:44:58.800> it's<00:44:58.980> something<00:44:59.220> it's<00:44:59.520> a<00:45:00.000> city mechanism so it’s something it’s a city mechanism so it’s something it’s a city they<00:45:00.420> don't<00:45:00.540> have<00:45:00.660> a<00:45:00.780> town<00:45:00.960> beach<00:45:01.140> they<00:45:01.380> could they don’t have a town beach they could they don’t have a town beach they could just<00:45:01.560> allocate<00:45:02.040> it<00:45:02.160> yeah<00:45:02.420> exactly<00:45:03.420> so<00:45:04.140> it<00:45:04.319> does just allocate it yeah exactly so it does just allocate it yeah exactly so it does get<00:45:04.859> a<00:45:04.980> little<00:45:05.099> tricky<00:45:05.460> because<00:45:05.579> it<00:45:05.819> is get a little tricky because it is get a little tricky because it is technically<00:45:06.300> a<00:45:06.599> general<00:45:06.720> fund<00:45:07.200> Revenue<00:45:07.440> it's technically a general fund Revenue it’s technically a general fund Revenue it’s not<00:45:08.160> a<00:45:08.339> school<00:45:08.460> Revenue<00:45:08.880> but<00:45:10.140> um<00:45:10.140> or<00:45:10.319> not<00:45:10.500> a not a school Revenue but um or not a not a school Revenue but um or not a direct<00:45:10.800> School<00:45:11.099> Revenue direct School Revenue direct School Revenue but<00:45:12.599> it's<00:45:12.839> something<00:45:13.319> we<00:45:13.740> we<00:45:14.040> probably<00:45:14.579> want but it’s something we we probably want but it’s something we we probably want to<00:45:14.940> chat<00:45:15.119> about okay well I don’t know how much it I okay well I don’t know how much it I mean<00:45:20.099> I<00:45:20.579> don't<00:45:20.640> know<00:45:20.700> how<00:45:20.819> much<00:45:20.940> you<00:45:21.300> know<00:45:21.359> I

45:21 mean I don’t know how much you know I mean I don’t know how much you know I mean<00:45:21.780> our<00:45:21.960> Chapter<00:45:22.140> 70<00:45:22.440> is<00:45:22.920> but<00:45:23.819> 10<00:45:24.480> represent mean our Chapter 70 is but 10 represent mean our Chapter 70 is but 10 represent or<00:45:25.200> less<00:45:25.319> of<00:45:25.440> our<00:45:25.560> overall<00:45:25.920> budget<00:45:26.220> so<00:45:26.760> if or less of our overall budget so if or less of our overall budget so if there’s<00:45:27.060> if<00:45:27.359> there's<00:45:27.660> an<00:45:28.440> unforeseen there’s if there’s an unforeseen there’s if there’s an unforeseen Surplus<00:45:30.839> or<00:45:31.079> unless<00:45:31.500> the<00:45:31.680> right<00:45:31.859> word<00:45:31.920> you Surplus or unless the right word you Surplus or unless the right word you know<00:45:32.280> additional<00:45:32.880> Chapter<00:45:33.599> 70<00:45:33.900> allocation know additional Chapter 70 allocation know additional Chapter 70 allocation not<00:45:35.520> that<00:45:35.700> I<00:45:35.819> don't<00:45:35.940> want<00:45:36.060> another<00:45:36.300> you<00:45:36.660> know not that I don’t want another you know not that I don’t want another you know 100<00:45:36.839> or<00:45:37.079> 200<00:45:37.560> 000<00:45:37.619> but<00:45:37.859> I<00:45:38.040> don't<00:45:38.099> think<00:45:38.280> it's 100 or 200 000 but I don’t think it’s 100 or 200 000 but I don’t think it’s gonna<00:45:38.520> you<00:45:39.000> know<00:45:39.060> I<00:45:39.359> don't<00:45:39.599> think<00:45:39.720> it's<00:45:39.839> gonna gonna you know I don’t think it’s gonna gonna you know I don’t think it’s gonna be<00:45:40.859> that<00:45:41.280> significant<00:45:42.240> right

45:47 um still might be worth having a fall um still might be worth having a fall down<00:45:47.640> meaning<00:45:47.880> for<00:45:48.060> it<00:45:48.180> but down meaning for it but down meaning for it but anyway

45:55 so I so I I<00:45:56.400> think<00:45:56.579> that<00:45:57.060> we're<00:45:57.359> I<00:45:57.720> would<00:45:57.900> like<00:45:58.020> for<00:45:58.440> us I think that we’re I would like for us I think that we’re I would like for us to<00:45:58.920> meet<00:45:59.160> with<00:45:59.700> with<00:46:00.119> the<00:46:00.599> finance<00:46:01.079> Liaisons to meet with with the finance Liaisons to meet with with the finance Liaisons from<00:46:02.400> fincom from fincom from fincom um<00:46:04.920> shortly<00:46:05.640> after<00:46:05.880> we<00:46:06.180> meet<00:46:06.420> with<00:46:06.720> the<00:46:06.960> town um shortly after we meet with the town um shortly after we meet with the town side<00:46:07.440> my<00:46:08.220> understanding<00:46:08.760> is side my understanding is side my understanding is um um um all<00:46:11.700> interested<00:46:12.119> parties<00:46:12.540> are<00:46:12.960> hoping<00:46:13.440> that all interested parties are hoping that all interested parties are hoping that by<00:46:14.700> mid-october<00:46:15.480> we<00:46:15.900> really<00:46:16.140> have<00:46:16.380> a<00:46:16.619> clear by mid-october we really have a clear by mid-october we really have a clear idea<00:46:17.400> of<00:46:17.760> where<00:46:17.940> everyone<00:46:18.180> stands idea of where everyone stands idea of where everyone stands financially<00:46:19.619> that<00:46:19.980> the<00:46:20.160> books<00:46:20.400> should<00:46:20.579> be financially that the books should be financially that the books should be closed<00:46:21.060> by<00:46:21.240> then<00:46:21.420> on<00:46:21.599> the<00:46:21.780> town<00:46:21.960> side<00:46:22.260> we closed by then on the town side we closed by then on the town side we should<00:46:22.859> have<00:46:23.160> reasonable<00:46:24.140> projections<00:46:25.140> on should have reasonable projections on should have reasonable projections on where<00:46:25.920> we<00:46:26.099> are<00:46:26.220> with<00:46:26.460> free<00:46:26.700> cash<00:46:26.940> and<00:46:27.300> we where we are with free cash and we where we are with free cash and we should<00:46:27.599> have<00:46:27.780> a<00:46:28.079> reasonable<00:46:28.440> idea<00:46:29.280> there<00:46:29.700> of should have a reasonable idea there of should have a reasonable idea there of where<00:46:30.839> how<00:46:31.260> much where how much where how much we’re<00:46:32.700> gonna<00:46:33.000> have<00:46:33.240> to<00:46:33.420> cut<00:46:33.660> from<00:46:34.079> where<00:46:34.319> we we’re gonna have to cut from where we we’re gonna have to cut from where we are<00:46:34.680> now<00:46:34.980> in<00:46:35.280> our<00:46:35.460> operating<00:46:35.819> budget are now in our operating budget are now in our operating budget to<00:46:37.260> there<00:46:37.440> but<00:46:38.220> Sarah<00:46:38.400> when<00:46:38.700> you<00:46:38.880> say<00:46:39.060> cut<00:46:39.300> what to there but Sarah when you say cut what to there but Sarah when you say cut what I<00:46:39.839> don't<00:46:39.960> know<00:46:40.020> what<00:46:40.079> you<00:46:40.200> mean<00:46:40.319> by<00:46:40.440> that<00:46:40.680> like

46:42 I don’t know what you mean by that like I don’t know what you mean by that like like like like cut<00:46:44.339> to<00:46:44.640> me<00:46:44.760> means<00:46:45.060> we'll<00:46:45.300> have<00:46:45.540> we're cut to me means we’ll have we’re cut to me means we’ll have we’re projecting<00:46:46.200> less<00:46:46.500> Revenue<00:46:46.859> next<00:46:47.160> year<00:46:47.280> than projecting less Revenue next year than projecting less Revenue next year than this<00:46:47.760> year<00:46:47.880> which<00:46:48.240> I<00:46:48.420> don't<00:46:48.540> think<00:46:48.660> that's<00:46:48.900> the this year which I don’t think that’s the this year which I don’t think that’s the case case case it<00:46:51.480> was<00:46:51.599> this<00:46:51.839> year it was this year it was this year well<00:46:53.640> the<00:46:54.060> town<00:46:54.359> did<00:46:54.599> not<00:46:54.780> take<00:46:55.020> in<00:46:55.560> less well the town did not take in less well the town did not take in less Revenue<00:46:56.460> this<00:46:56.700> year<00:46:56.819> than<00:46:57.000> they<00:46:57.180> did<00:46:57.300> last Revenue this year than they did last Revenue this year than they did last year year year no<00:46:58.560> but<00:46:58.859> when<00:46:59.040> you<00:46:59.280> factor<00:46:59.760> in<00:47:00.300> our no but when you factor in our no but when you factor in our contractual<00:47:01.680> obligations<00:47:02.540> one<00:47:03.540> that's<00:47:03.839> my contractual obligations one that’s my contractual obligations one that’s my whole<00:47:04.200> point<00:47:04.500> which<00:47:04.920> I<00:47:05.099> think<00:47:05.160> this<00:47:05.460> whole whole point which I think this whole whole point which I think this whole exercise<00:47:06.140> so<00:47:07.140> we<00:47:07.380> just<00:47:07.560> understand<00:47:07.800> like exercise so we just understand like exercise so we just understand like again<00:47:08.819> these<00:47:09.180> are<00:47:09.300> all<00:47:09.540> just<00:47:09.780> like<00:47:09.960> like<00:47:10.319> we again these are all just like like we again these are all just like like we just<00:47:10.920> every<00:47:11.579> year<00:47:11.819> we<00:47:12.060> just<00:47:12.180> paint<00:47:12.480> this<00:47:12.960> brush just every year we just paint this brush just every year we just paint this brush of<00:47:14.220> you<00:47:14.880> know<00:47:15.000> we<00:47:15.300> had<00:47:15.480> last<00:47:15.720> year<00:47:15.960> and<00:47:16.440> we<00:47:16.619> just of you know we had last year and we just of you know we had last year and we just assume<00:47:17.400> every<00:47:17.579> nothing<00:47:17.880> changes<00:47:18.420> that<00:47:18.720> the assume every nothing changes that the assume every nothing changes that the same<00:47:19.079> people<00:47:19.260> are<00:47:19.619> in<00:47:19.740> the<00:47:19.920> same<00:47:20.040> seats<00:47:20.520> with same people are in the same seats with same people are in the same seats with the<00:47:20.880> same<00:47:21.000> contract<00:47:21.420> and<00:47:21.599> same<00:47:21.839> increase<00:47:22.020> and the same contract and same increase and the same contract and same increase and I<00:47:22.500> just I just I just I<00:47:24.180> understand<00:47:24.420> what<00:47:24.839> you're<00:47:24.960> saying<00:47:25.140> but<00:47:25.440> to I understand what you’re saying but to I understand what you’re saying but to my<00:47:26.220> point my point my point if<00:47:27.780> we<00:47:28.020> know<00:47:28.200> coming<00:47:28.500> out<00:47:28.740> of<00:47:28.859> those

47:29 if we know coming out of those if we know coming out of those projections<00:47:30.300> we<00:47:31.200> can't<00:47:31.380> even<00:47:31.560> cover<00:47:31.859> our projections we can’t even cover our projections we can’t even cover our contractual<00:47:32.760> obligations<00:47:33.240> I<00:47:33.599> know<00:47:33.720> what contractual obligations I know what contractual obligations I know what you’re<00:47:33.960> saying<00:47:34.200> is<00:47:34.319> we<00:47:34.740> might<00:47:34.980> not<00:47:35.220> need<00:47:35.700> to you’re saying is we might not need to you’re saying is we might not need to carry<00:47:36.240> over<00:47:36.359> all<00:47:36.660> these<00:47:36.900> employees<00:47:37.260> no<00:47:37.920> that's carry over all these employees no that’s carry over all these employees no that’s not<00:47:38.220> what<00:47:38.400> I'm<00:47:38.520> saying<00:47:38.819> what<00:47:39.240> I'm<00:47:39.420> saying<00:47:39.660> is not what I’m saying what I’m saying is not what I’m saying what I’m saying is we<00:47:40.500> don't<00:47:40.680> know<00:47:41.119> like<00:47:42.119> if<00:47:42.599> like<00:47:43.020> we<00:47:43.260> don't<00:47:43.380> I we don’t know like if like we don’t I we don’t know like if like we don’t I don’t<00:47:43.800> unless<00:47:44.160> I'm<00:47:44.339> wrong<00:47:44.520> we<00:47:44.880> shall<00:47:45.060> do<00:47:45.240> I don’t unless I’m wrong we shall do I don’t unless I’m wrong we shall do I mean<00:47:45.480> we're<00:47:45.660> footing<00:47:46.140> this<00:47:46.319> to<00:47:46.500> every<00:47:46.859> actual mean we’re footing this to every actual mean we’re footing this to every actual person person person or<00:47:49.680> is<00:47:49.800> this<00:47:49.920> just<00:47:50.099> a<00:47:50.280> general<00:47:50.839> you<00:47:51.839> know or is this just a general you know or is this just a general you know percentage<00:47:52.380> increase<00:47:52.560> over<00:47:52.920> what<00:47:53.160> we<00:47:53.280> had percentage increase over what we had percentage increase over what we had last<00:47:53.640> year last year last year no<00:47:55.380> we<00:47:55.619> we<00:47:55.920> actually<00:47:56.220> do<00:47:56.579> an<00:47:57.060> allocation<00:47:57.960> per no we we actually do an allocation per no we we actually do an allocation per person<00:47:58.500> yes<00:47:59.339> okay person yes okay person yes okay okay okay okay the<00:48:02.819> salary<00:48:03.060> with<00:48:03.480> the<00:48:03.599> contractual the salary with the contractual the salary with the contractual obligation obligation obligation and<00:48:06.440> brings<00:48:07.440> it<00:48:07.619> down<00:48:07.800> to<00:48:08.040> one<00:48:08.280> number<00:48:08.520> and<00:48:08.880> we and brings it down to one number and we and brings it down to one number and we know<00:48:09.300> per<00:48:09.780> person<00:48:10.079> what<00:48:10.560> everyone's know per person what everyone’s know per person what everyone’s contractual<00:48:11.460> obligation<00:48:11.940> is<00:48:12.180> okay<00:48:12.720> so<00:48:13.040> if<00:48:14.040> we

48:14 contractual obligation is okay so if we contractual obligation is okay so if we know<00:48:14.339> that<00:48:14.640> contractual<00:48:15.240> obligation<00:48:15.720> for know that contractual obligation for know that contractual obligation for everybody<00:48:16.440> that<00:48:16.859> is<00:48:17.040> under<00:48:17.280> contract<00:48:17.819> is<00:48:18.599> I'm everybody that is under contract is I’m everybody that is under contract is I’m raking<00:48:19.079> up<00:48:19.319> really<00:48:19.560> round<00:48:19.800> numbers<00:48:20.040> here raking up really round numbers here raking up really round numbers here folks<00:48:20.700> 46<00:48:21.660> million<00:48:22.140> and<00:48:22.980> we<00:48:23.220> know<00:48:23.400> that<00:48:23.700> the folks 46 million and we know that the folks 46 million and we know that the town<00:48:24.300> in<00:48:25.020> mid-october<00:48:25.619> is<00:48:25.859> looking<00:48:26.040> at<00:48:26.280> their town in mid-october is looking at their town in mid-october is looking at their projections<00:48:27.359> and<00:48:27.660> knowing<00:48:28.160> with<00:48:29.160> the<00:48:29.940> free projections and knowing with the free projections and knowing with the free cash<00:48:30.359> that<00:48:30.599> they're<00:48:30.839> able<00:48:31.200> to<00:48:31.740> most<00:48:32.460> likely cash that they’re able to most likely cash that they’re able to most likely certify certify certify the<00:48:35.160> only<00:48:35.339> without<00:48:35.880> a<00:48:36.119> note<00:48:36.240> because<00:48:36.480> at<00:48:36.660> that the only without a note because at that the only without a note because at that point<00:48:36.900> we<00:48:37.079> should<00:48:37.260> know point we should know point we should know without<00:48:38.579> an<00:48:38.940> override<00:48:39.420> this<00:48:40.380> is<00:48:40.560> what<00:48:40.980> we<00:48:41.460> can without an override this is what we can without an override this is what we can with<00:48:42.180> our<00:48:42.420> prop<00:48:42.599> with<00:48:43.260> the<00:48:43.380> confines<00:48:43.800> of<00:48:44.040> prop with our prop with the confines of prop with our prop with the confines of prop two<00:48:44.400> and<00:48:44.520> a<00:48:44.640> half<00:48:44.700> with<00:48:45.119> the<00:48:45.300> free<00:48:45.480> cash<00:48:45.780> this two and a half with the free cash this two and a half with the free cash this is<00:48:46.859> what<00:48:47.220> we<00:48:47.520> can<00:48:47.700> allocate<00:48:48.319> and<00:48:49.319> we<00:48:50.160> should is what we can allocate and we should is what we can allocate and we should know<00:48:51.079> what<00:48:52.079> that<00:48:52.319> Delta<00:48:52.800> is<00:48:52.980> whether<00:48:53.339> it's<00:48:53.520> a know what that Delta is whether it’s a know what that Delta is whether it’s a positive<00:48:54.000> or<00:48:54.180> negative<00:48:54.540> variance<00:48:55.079> I<00:48:55.800> I<00:48:56.460> think positive or negative variance I I think positive or negative variance I I think anybody<00:48:57.060> would<00:48:57.240> be<00:48:57.420> foolish<00:48:57.660> to<00:48:57.780> think<00:48:57.960> it's anybody would be foolish to think it’s anybody would be foolish to think it’s not<00:48:58.260> going<00:48:58.380> to<00:48:58.440> be<00:48:58.500> a<00:48:58.619> negative<00:48:58.920> variance

48:59 not going to be a negative variance not going to be a negative variance considering<00:48:59.940> where<00:49:00.420> we<00:49:01.079> are<00:49:01.260> with<00:49:01.560> the considering where we are with the considering where we are with the deficit<00:49:02.099> of<00:49:02.220> free<00:49:02.400> cash<00:49:02.780> but<00:49:03.780> we'll<00:49:04.319> know deficit of free cash but we’ll know deficit of free cash but we’ll know right<00:49:04.920> away right away right away our<00:49:07.500> budget<00:49:07.920> cannot<00:49:08.400> exceed<00:49:08.819> this<00:49:09.240> number our budget cannot exceed this number our budget cannot exceed this number without<00:49:10.200> an<00:49:10.619> override<00:49:10.920> now<00:49:11.160> whether<00:49:11.400> we without an override now whether we without an override now whether we decide<00:49:11.819> to<00:49:11.940> do<00:49:12.060> an<00:49:12.240> override<00:49:12.540> or<00:49:12.780> not<00:49:12.900> that<00:49:13.140> is decide to do an override or not that is decide to do an override or not that is a<00:49:13.500> different<00:49:13.680> question<00:49:14.099> we<00:49:14.760> will<00:49:14.940> know<00:49:15.119> the a different question we will know the a different question we will know the maximum<00:49:16.079> number<00:49:16.380> Allowed<00:49:17.160> by<00:49:17.460> proposition maximum number Allowed by proposition maximum number Allowed by proposition two<00:49:18.359> and<00:49:18.599> a<00:49:18.720> half two and a half two and a half and<00:49:20.880> if<00:49:21.000> that<00:49:21.240> number<00:49:21.420> is<00:49:21.660> less<00:49:21.839> than<00:49:22.020> our and if that number is less than our and if that number is less than our contractual<00:49:22.680> obligations<00:49:23.280> we<00:49:24.240> know<00:49:24.480> we<00:49:25.380> are contractual obligations we know we are contractual obligations we know we are cutting<00:49:25.920> that<00:49:26.040> amount

49:31 there’s no other way you cannot budget there’s no other way you cannot budget for<00:49:31.859> more<00:49:32.099> than<00:49:32.339> you<00:49:32.700> correct<00:49:33.480> yep for more than you correct yep for more than you correct yep um<00:49:35.460> so<00:49:36.060> we<00:49:36.300> should<00:49:36.420> know<00:49:36.599> by<00:49:36.900> mid-october<00:49:37.619> what um so we should know by mid-october what um so we should know by mid-october what that<00:49:38.579> Delta<00:49:39.060> is that Delta is that Delta is now<00:49:40.500> we<00:49:40.740> still<00:49:40.920> have<00:49:41.099> a<00:49:41.160> lot<00:49:41.280> of<00:49:41.400> work<00:49:41.460> to<00:49:41.640> do<00:49:41.760> to now we still have a lot of work to do to now we still have a lot of work to do to justify<00:49:42.480> every<00:49:42.780> person<00:49:43.079> in<00:49:43.980> our<00:49:44.160> buildings justify every person in our buildings justify every person in our buildings but<00:49:45.119> those<00:49:45.420> are<00:49:45.780> two<00:49:46.200> different<00:49:46.440> things<00:49:47.040> will but those are two different things will but those are two different things will that<00:49:47.940> be<00:49:48.180> well<00:49:48.660> what<00:49:48.839> is<00:49:48.960> what<00:49:49.140> builds<00:49:49.500> our that be well what is what builds our that be well what is what builds our budget<00:49:50.339> that's<00:49:50.880> what<00:49:51.119> builds<00:49:51.420> our<00:49:51.540> budget<00:49:51.839> but budget that’s what builds our budget but budget that’s what builds our budget but we<00:49:52.440> know<00:49:52.560> our<00:49:52.859> we'll<00:49:53.339> know<00:49:53.640> the<00:49:53.880> number<00:49:54.000> we we know our we’ll know the number we we know our we’ll know the number we cannot<00:49:54.839> exceed<00:49:55.440> the<00:49:55.980> bar<00:49:56.760> some<00:49:57.359> type<00:49:57.480> of cannot exceed the bar some type of cannot exceed the bar some type of override<00:49:58.020> of<00:49:58.200> town<00:49:58.319> meaning<00:49:58.500> I'm<00:49:58.859> not<00:49:59.099> for override of town meaning I’m not for override of town meaning I’m not for anybody<00:49:59.700> listening<00:50:00.119> I'm<00:50:00.359> not<00:50:00.540> saying<00:50:00.780> we<00:50:00.960> need anybody listening I’m not saying we need anybody listening I’m not saying we need an<00:50:01.260> override<00:50:01.560> I'm<00:50:01.740> not<00:50:01.859> saying<00:50:02.040> we<00:50:02.220> don't<00:50:02.339> need an override I’m not saying we don’t need an override I’m not saying we don’t need an<00:50:02.700> override<00:50:03.180> we<00:50:03.660> will<00:50:03.839> have<00:50:04.020> the an override we will have the an override we will have the mathematical<00:50:04.680> equation<00:50:05.160> to<00:50:05.460> know<00:50:05.640> our<00:50:05.940> Max mathematical equation to know our Max mathematical equation to know our Max allowable<00:50:07.319> by<00:50:07.740> law<00:50:07.980> without<00:50:08.400> a<00:50:08.640> prop<00:50:08.760> two<00:50:09.000> and allowable by law without a prop two and allowable by law without a prop two and a<00:50:09.300> half a half a half okay<00:50:10.800> and<00:50:11.339> and<00:50:12.180> so<00:50:12.660> inside<00:50:13.200> of<00:50:13.560> a<00:50:13.740> month<00:50:13.920> we okay and and so inside of a month we okay and and so inside of a month we should<00:50:15.000> know<00:50:15.240> what<00:50:15.720> the<00:50:15.900> Delta<00:50:16.319> is<00:50:16.500> between

50:16 should know what the Delta is between should know what the Delta is between contractual<00:50:17.400> obligations<00:50:17.940> and<00:50:18.720> maximum contractual obligations and maximum contractual obligations and maximum allocation<00:50:19.920> right<00:50:20.280> Michelle allocation right Michelle allocation right Michelle well<00:50:22.319> the<00:50:22.619> difficult<00:50:22.920> thing<00:50:23.160> is<00:50:23.280> we're well the difficult thing is we’re well the difficult thing is we’re actually<00:50:23.640> up<00:50:23.760> for<00:50:23.940> negotiations<00:50:24.359> so<00:50:24.780> we<00:50:25.020> don't actually up for negotiations so we don’t actually up for negotiations so we don’t know<00:50:25.319> exactly<00:50:25.740> what<00:50:25.920> the<00:50:26.099> contractual know exactly what the contractual know exactly what the contractual obligations<00:50:26.940> are<00:50:27.180> we<00:50:27.540> could<00:50:27.660> certainly obligations are we could certainly obligations are we could certainly estimate<00:50:28.500> but<00:50:28.920> we<00:50:29.160> don't<00:50:29.400> have<00:50:29.760> cooler estimate but we don’t have cooler estimate but we don’t have cooler amounts<00:50:30.720> for<00:50:30.839> next<00:50:31.020> year<00:50:31.140> for<00:50:31.440> teachers<00:50:31.740> or amounts for next year for teachers or amounts for next year for teachers or any<00:50:32.220> of<00:50:32.400> our<00:50:32.460> other<00:50:32.640> unions any of our other unions any of our other unions well<00:50:34.380> that'll<00:50:34.680> also<00:50:34.920> Drive<00:50:35.400> contract well that’ll also Drive contract well that’ll also Drive contract negotiations<00:50:36.619> correct<00:50:37.619> well<00:50:38.040> you<00:50:38.339> know<00:50:38.400> we're negotiations correct well you know we’re negotiations correct well you know we’re going<00:50:38.700> to<00:50:38.760> have<00:50:38.880> to<00:50:39.060> estimate<00:50:39.780> how<00:50:40.380> much<00:50:40.560> you going to have to estimate how much you going to have to estimate how much you know<00:50:41.520> how<00:50:41.819> much<00:50:41.940> we<00:50:42.119> can<00:50:42.240> how<00:50:42.540> what<00:50:43.500> we<00:50:43.619> can know how much we can how what we can know how much we can how what we can allocate<00:50:44.280> towards<00:50:45.060> a<00:50:45.180> new<00:50:45.300> contract<00:50:45.660> and<00:50:45.900> then allocate towards a new contract and then allocate towards a new contract and then that<00:50:46.440> I<00:50:46.980> would<00:50:47.099> assume<00:50:47.520> drives<00:50:47.880> you<00:50:48.300> know that I would assume drives you know that I would assume drives you know drives<00:50:48.660> the<00:50:48.839> negotiation<00:50:49.260> but<00:50:49.980> right drives the negotiation but right drives the negotiation but right allocation<00:50:52.079> okay are we sure that are we sure that they’re<00:50:59.339> on<00:50:59.579> track<00:50:59.819> to<00:51:00.119> have<00:51:00.359> those<00:51:00.599> the they’re on track to have those the they’re on track to have those the finance<00:51:01.460> directors<00:51:02.460> on<00:51:02.640> track<00:51:02.760> to<00:51:03.000> have<00:51:03.180> those

51:03 finance directors on track to have those finance directors on track to have those projections projections projections I’m<00:51:06.540> not<00:51:06.780> sure<00:51:07.020> okay<00:51:07.619> so<00:51:08.040> that's<00:51:08.160> maybe I’m not sure okay so that’s maybe I’m not sure okay so that’s maybe something<00:51:08.700> you<00:51:08.940> can<00:51:09.059> find<00:51:09.240> out<00:51:09.480> when<00:51:10.079> you<00:51:10.260> so something you can find out when you so something you can find out when you so so<00:51:11.339> far<00:51:11.579> we're<00:51:11.880> looking<00:51:12.180> for so far we’re looking for so far we’re looking for um um um to<00:51:15.660> to<00:51:15.720> describe<00:51:16.500> the<00:51:16.680> kind<00:51:16.800> of<00:51:16.859> reporting<00:51:17.220> we to to describe the kind of reporting we to to describe the kind of reporting we would<00:51:17.520> like<00:51:17.700> to<00:51:17.880> see would like to see would like to see for<00:51:19.319> the<00:51:19.500> new<00:51:19.680> indirect<00:51:19.980> costs<00:51:20.520> and<00:51:21.000> revenue for the new indirect costs and revenue for the new indirect costs and revenue associated<00:51:21.900> with<00:51:22.200> the<00:51:22.440> change<00:51:22.920> in<00:51:23.220> our<00:51:23.640> budget associated with the change in our budget associated with the change in our budget and<00:51:24.960> that and that and that um maybe<00:51:26.099> a<00:51:26.339> timeline<00:51:26.760> from<00:51:27.240> the<00:51:28.200> finance um maybe a timeline from the finance um maybe a timeline from the finance director<00:51:28.800> of<00:51:29.040> the<00:51:29.280> Town<00:51:29.520> Administrator<00:51:30.000> on<00:51:30.480> on director of the Town Administrator on on director of the Town Administrator on on these<00:51:31.140> projections these projections these projections mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm I<00:51:35.040> don't<00:51:35.099> know<00:51:35.220> where<00:51:35.339> you<00:51:35.460> got<00:51:35.579> the<00:51:35.700> October I don’t know where you got the October I don’t know where you got the October was<00:51:36.359> that<00:51:36.480> from<00:51:36.720> Alec<00:51:37.260> or<00:51:37.500> is<00:51:37.920> yeah<00:51:38.760> that<00:51:39.359> that was that from Alec or is yeah that that was that from Alec or is yeah that that came<00:51:40.319> via came via came via I<00:51:42.119> think<00:51:42.300> I'm<00:51:42.599> trying<00:51:42.839> to<00:51:42.960> remember<00:51:43.020> now I think I’m trying to remember now I think I’m trying to remember now because<00:51:43.500> I<00:51:43.619> don't<00:51:43.680> want<00:51:43.859> to<00:51:43.920> miss<00:51:44.040> misquote because I don’t want to miss misquote because I don’t want to miss misquote myself<00:51:44.880> I<00:51:45.119> think<00:51:45.240> Alec<00:51:45.780> had<00:51:45.900> shared<00:51:46.380> he<00:51:47.220> he myself I think Alec had shared he he myself I think Alec had shared he he felt<00:51:48.599> that<00:51:48.720> they<00:51:49.079> were<00:51:49.260> on<00:51:49.500> track<00:51:49.680> for<00:51:49.980> getting

51:50 felt that they were on track for getting felt that they were on track for getting that<00:51:50.460> information<00:51:50.700> okay<00:51:51.420> because<00:51:51.599> I<00:51:51.780> know that information okay because I know that information okay because I know that’s<00:51:52.200> I<00:51:52.680> had<00:51:53.160> a<00:51:53.280> conversation<00:51:53.520> with<00:51:53.700> him that’s I had a conversation with him that’s I had a conversation with him that’s<00:51:54.059> what<00:51:54.300> he<00:51:54.480> his<00:51:54.839> goal<00:51:55.260> was<00:51:55.319> I<00:51:55.619> just that’s what he his goal was I just that’s what he his goal was I just wasn’t<00:51:55.980> sure<00:51:56.280> if<00:51:56.400> that<00:51:56.579> was wasn’t sure if that was wasn’t sure if that was been<00:51:58.260> agreed<00:51:58.800> upon<00:51:59.099> I<00:51:59.940> will<00:52:00.240> put<00:52:00.359> it<00:52:00.480> this<00:52:00.660> way been agreed upon I will put it this way been agreed upon I will put it this way I<00:52:01.500> have<00:52:01.680> not<00:52:01.920> heard<00:52:02.460> anybody<00:52:03.059> speak<00:52:03.839> up<00:52:04.020> and I have not heard anybody speak up and I have not heard anybody speak up and say<00:52:04.440> we<00:52:04.740> will<00:52:04.920> not<00:52:05.160> be<00:52:05.400> able<00:52:05.640> to<00:52:05.940> make<00:52:06.180> that say we will not be able to make that say we will not be able to make that requested<00:52:07.200> time<00:52:07.680> because<00:52:07.920> it's<00:52:08.160> a<00:52:08.339> lot requested time because it’s a lot requested time because it’s a lot earlier<00:52:08.760> than<00:52:09.000> in<00:52:09.300> the<00:52:09.480> past

52:14 I think a lot earlier than last year I think a lot earlier than last year going<00:52:15.119> back<00:52:15.359> a<00:52:15.540> few<00:52:15.720> years<00:52:15.900> back<00:52:16.140> I<00:52:16.380> mean<00:52:16.500> we going back a few years back I mean we going back a few years back I mean we were<00:52:16.859> certifying<00:52:17.400> free<00:52:17.579> cash<00:52:17.819> by<00:52:18.059> the<00:52:18.240> first were certifying free cash by the first were certifying free cash by the first week<00:52:18.660> of<00:52:18.839> November week of November week of November yeah<00:52:20.760> but<00:52:21.000> that<00:52:21.119> didn't<00:52:21.300> mean<00:52:21.540> that<00:52:21.780> we<00:52:22.079> had yeah but that didn’t mean that we had yeah but that didn’t mean that we had you<00:52:22.920> know<00:52:23.059> agreed<00:52:24.059> upon<00:52:24.300> contractions you know agreed upon contractions you know agreed upon contractions increased<00:52:25.200> numbers<00:52:25.319> and<00:52:25.559> all<00:52:25.680> that<00:52:25.800> you<00:52:25.980> that increased numbers and all that you that increased numbers and all that you that was<00:52:26.460> always<00:52:26.579> bumping<00:52:27.000> up<00:52:27.180> against<00:52:27.359> I<00:52:27.780> recall was always bumping up against I recall was always bumping up against I recall December<00:52:28.980> January<00:52:29.339> but<00:52:29.579> that'd<00:52:30.119> be<00:52:30.180> great December January but that’d be great December January but that’d be great it’s<00:52:30.720> great<00:52:30.900> just<00:52:31.140> gives<00:52:31.380> us<00:52:31.559> you<00:52:31.859> know<00:52:31.980> more it’s great just gives us you know more it’s great just gives us you know more data<00:52:33.059> to<00:52:33.240> work<00:52:33.660> with data to work with data to work with yeah yeah yeah um um um so so so as<00:52:39.420> far<00:52:39.540> as<00:52:39.720> timelines<00:52:40.200> go<00:52:40.440> if<00:52:40.800> we<00:52:40.980> I<00:52:41.339> would as far as timelines go if we I would as far as timelines go if we I would like<00:52:41.880> to like to like to um well<00:52:44.280> we're<00:52:44.640> meeting<00:52:44.819> next<00:52:45.240> week<00:52:45.420> I<00:52:45.839> would um well we’re meeting next week I would um well we’re meeting next week I would like<00:52:46.140> to<00:52:46.380> try<00:52:46.619> to<00:52:46.800> get<00:52:47.160> together<00:52:47.400> a<00:52:48.359> joint like to try to get together a joint like to try to get together a joint meeting<00:52:48.780> between<00:52:49.200> us<00:52:49.880> and<00:52:50.880> fincom<00:52:51.660> in<00:52:52.079> October meeting between us and fincom in October meeting between us and fincom in October um<00:52:53.760> so<00:52:54.119> that<00:52:54.359> we<00:52:54.660> can<00:52:54.900> really<00:52:55.740> iron<00:52:56.099> out um so that we can really iron out um so that we can really iron out what<00:52:58.500> type<00:52:58.619> of<00:52:58.740> data<00:52:59.160> they<00:52:59.579> want

53:01 what type of data they want what type of data they want if<00:53:01.800> it's<00:53:01.920> different<00:53:02.099> than<00:53:02.400> last<00:53:02.700> year<00:53:02.940> my if it’s different than last year my if it’s different than last year my takeaway<00:53:03.780> from<00:53:04.020> last<00:53:04.200> year<00:53:04.380> was<00:53:04.559> they<00:53:04.800> were takeaway from last year was they were takeaway from last year was they were very<00:53:05.280> happy<00:53:05.520> with<00:53:05.940> the<00:53:06.180> process<00:53:06.480> and<00:53:06.720> the very happy with the process and the very happy with the process and the amount<00:53:07.079> of<00:53:07.200> data<00:53:07.440> we<00:53:07.619> gave<00:53:07.800> them<00:53:07.980> so<00:53:08.520> I<00:53:08.700> don't amount of data we gave them so I don’t amount of data we gave them so I don’t anticipate<00:53:09.540> too<00:53:09.900> many<00:53:10.400> changes<00:53:11.400> there<00:53:11.579> but<00:53:11.880> I anticipate too many changes there but I anticipate too many changes there but I also<00:53:12.240> want<00:53:12.359> to<00:53:12.480> make<00:53:12.660> sure<00:53:12.960> that<00:53:13.740> we're<00:53:13.980> kind also want to make sure that we’re kind also want to make sure that we’re kind of<00:53:14.460> plugging<00:53:14.940> Along<00:53:15.059> on<00:53:15.359> that<00:53:15.599> same<00:53:15.839> vein<00:53:16.619> of of plugging Along on that same vein of of plugging Along on that same vein of being<00:53:17.040> really<00:53:17.280> prepared being really prepared being really prepared um um um so<00:53:20.520> I<00:53:20.700> would<00:53:20.819> like<00:53:20.940> to<00:53:21.180> meet<00:53:21.300> with<00:53:21.599> them<00:53:21.839> by so I would like to meet with them by so I would like to meet with them by that<00:53:22.740> second<00:53:22.980> week<00:53:23.280> of<00:53:23.520> October<00:53:24.119> and<00:53:24.720> set<00:53:24.900> up that second week of October and set up that second week of October and set up that<00:53:25.200> meeting<00:53:25.380> if<00:53:25.680> that<00:53:25.800> works<00:53:26.040> for<00:53:26.160> everyone that meeting if that works for everyone that meeting if that works for everyone here here here yep<00:53:29.420> and<00:53:30.420> then<00:53:30.599> Mattel<00:53:30.960> I'm<00:53:31.079> assuming<00:53:31.380> Emma yep and then Mattel I’m assuming Emma yep and then Mattel I’m assuming Emma will<00:53:31.859> continue<00:53:32.099> to<00:53:32.400> be<00:53:32.520> joining<00:53:32.940> us will continue to be joining us will continue to be joining us I<00:53:34.440> hope<00:53:34.619> so I hope so I hope so as<00:53:36.540> you<00:53:36.660> can<00:53:36.780> that's<00:53:37.140> great as you can that’s great as you can that’s great all<00:53:39.359> that<00:53:39.540> data<00:53:39.780> that<00:53:40.020> we're<00:53:40.140> looking<00:53:40.559> for<00:53:40.740> I all that data that we’re looking for I all that data that we’re looking for I think<00:53:41.160> it's<00:53:41.280> great think it’s great think it’s great um um um do<00:53:44.700> we<00:53:44.760> want<00:53:44.940> to<00:53:45.059> do<00:53:45.180> sort<00:53:45.420> of<00:53:45.540> a<00:53:45.660> timeline<00:53:45.960> or do we want to do sort of a timeline or do we want to do sort of a timeline or is<00:53:46.260> it<00:53:46.440> premature<00:53:46.920> we<00:53:47.099> want<00:53:47.220> to<00:53:47.339> wait<00:53:47.400> till

53:47 is it premature we want to wait till is it premature we want to wait till maybe<00:53:47.819> that<00:53:48.059> meeting maybe that meeting maybe that meeting with<00:53:49.980> the<00:53:50.339> finance<00:53:50.640> committee<00:53:51.119> in<00:53:51.900> October with the finance committee in October with the finance committee in October there’s<00:53:53.280> no there’s no there’s no um<00:53:54.960> you<00:53:55.740> know um you know um you know as<00:53:57.300> with<00:53:57.540> last<00:53:57.960> year<00:53:58.260> really<00:53:59.040> what<00:53:59.400> is<00:53:59.579> going as with last year really what is going as with last year really what is going to<00:53:59.819> be<00:53:59.940> holding<00:54:00.300> us<00:54:00.420> up<00:54:00.540> is<00:54:00.720> getting<00:54:00.960> the<00:54:01.140> data to be holding us up is getting the data to be holding us up is getting the data from<00:54:01.680> the<00:54:02.040> town<00:54:02.220> because<00:54:02.520> there's<00:54:02.760> only<00:54:02.940> so from the town because there’s only so from the town because there’s only so far<00:54:03.480> we<00:54:03.720> can<00:54:03.900> go<00:54:04.079> without<00:54:04.380> knowing<00:54:04.859> what<00:54:05.099> that far we can go without knowing what that far we can go without knowing what that number<00:54:05.460> is<00:54:05.760> but<00:54:06.119> also<00:54:06.420> Michelle<00:54:06.660> like<00:54:06.960> if number is but also Michelle like if number is but also Michelle like if we’re<00:54:07.260> going<00:54:07.440> to<00:54:07.500> go<00:54:07.619> through<00:54:07.800> this<00:54:08.040> exercise we’re going to go through this exercise we’re going to go through this exercise with<00:54:08.700> our<00:54:08.880> building<00:54:09.059> administrators<00:54:09.900> I<00:54:10.680> mean with our building administrators I mean with our building administrators I mean that’s<00:54:11.040> going<00:54:11.280> to<00:54:11.460> be<00:54:11.640> some<00:54:11.819> work<00:54:12.059> right that’s going to be some work right that’s going to be some work right you’re<00:54:12.540> going<00:54:12.720> to<00:54:12.780> have<00:54:12.900> to<00:54:13.020> create you’re going to have to create you’re going to have to create you<00:54:15.180> know<00:54:15.300> I<00:54:15.480> don't<00:54:15.660> think<00:54:15.839> they've<00:54:15.960> done<00:54:16.140> this you know I don’t think they’ve done this you know I don’t think they’ve done this before<00:54:16.500> yeah<00:54:16.980> no<00:54:17.400> we'll<00:54:17.640> we'll<00:54:17.760> start<00:54:18.119> that before yeah no we’ll we’ll start that before yeah no we’ll we’ll start that sooner<00:54:18.660> than<00:54:18.720> later<00:54:18.900> absolutely<00:54:19.619> okay sooner than later absolutely okay sooner than later absolutely okay so<00:54:21.359> that<00:54:21.720> will<00:54:21.960> also<00:54:22.260> be<00:54:22.619> the<00:54:23.040> other<00:54:23.099> piece<00:54:23.339> to so that will also be the other piece to so that will also be the other piece to that<00:54:23.700> to<00:54:23.940> that<00:54:24.119> puzzle that to that puzzle that to that puzzle um<00:54:25.260> so<00:54:25.559> maybe<00:54:25.740> we'll<00:54:26.099> be<00:54:26.280> thinking<00:54:26.520> we<00:54:26.819> should um so maybe we’ll be thinking we should um so maybe we’ll be thinking we should be<00:54:27.000> thinking<00:54:27.300> about<00:54:27.420> timeline<00:54:27.960> for<00:54:28.200> that be thinking about timeline for that be thinking about timeline for that Raquel<00:54:31.140> do<00:54:31.319> they<00:54:31.440> know<00:54:31.619> this<00:54:31.740> is<00:54:31.920> coming<00:54:32.099> their Raquel do they know this is coming their Raquel do they know this is coming their way<00:54:32.579> that<00:54:32.940> we're<00:54:33.119> going<00:54:33.300> to<00:54:33.480> be<00:54:33.780> expecting

54:34 way that we’re going to be expecting way that we’re going to be expecting okay<00:54:35.220> so<00:54:35.579> you're<00:54:35.700> going<00:54:35.819> to<00:54:35.940> want<00:54:36.059> to<00:54:36.240> listen okay so you’re going to want to listen okay so you’re going to want to listen later<00:54:37.380> that<00:54:37.680> we're<00:54:37.800> going<00:54:37.920> to<00:54:38.099> need<00:54:38.339> more later that we’re going to need more later that we’re going to need more detail<00:54:39.780> and detail and detail and um<00:54:41.940> is<00:54:42.420> this<00:54:42.599> something<00:54:42.839> that<00:54:43.200> we<00:54:43.619> have um is this something that we have um is this something that we have resources<00:54:44.339> to<00:54:44.579> support<00:54:44.760> them<00:54:45.000> if<00:54:45.180> they<00:54:45.300> need resources to support them if they need resources to support them if they need it<00:54:45.480> whether<00:54:45.660> it's<00:54:45.839> Emma<00:54:46.319> or it whether it’s Emma or it whether it’s Emma or our<00:54:49.500> resources<00:54:49.859> are<00:54:50.040> a<00:54:50.220> little<00:54:50.280> thin<00:54:50.579> these our resources are a little thin these our resources are a little thin these days<00:54:51.000> well<00:54:51.359> that's<00:54:51.480> what<00:54:51.660> I<00:54:51.780> mean<00:54:51.900> I<00:54:52.200> mean days well that’s what I mean I mean days well that’s what I mean I mean that’s<00:54:52.619> why<00:54:52.740> I'm<00:54:52.859> wondering<00:54:53.099> is<00:54:53.280> is<00:54:53.520> there<00:54:53.760> a that’s why I’m wondering is is there a that’s why I’m wondering is is there a way<00:54:54.000> to<00:54:54.180> create<00:54:54.359> sort<00:54:54.780> of<00:54:54.839> a<00:54:55.140> like<00:54:55.559> a<00:54:55.740> tutorial way to create sort of a like a tutorial way to create sort of a like a tutorial like<00:54:56.400> you<00:54:56.700> know<00:54:56.760> this<00:54:57.059> is<00:54:57.180> the<00:54:57.359> information<00:54:57.480> we like you know this is the information we like you know this is the information we need<00:54:58.079> this<00:54:58.500> is<00:54:58.559> how<00:54:58.740> you<00:54:58.859> do<00:54:59.040> you<00:54:59.280> know<00:54:59.339> I<00:54:59.579> don't need this is how you do you know I don’t need this is how you do you know I don’t know<00:54:59.940> you<00:55:00.540> know<00:55:00.599> that<00:55:00.780> we<00:55:00.960> yeah<00:55:01.319> we'll<00:55:01.680> work<00:55:02.160> I know you know that we yeah we’ll work I know you know that we yeah we’ll work I would<00:55:02.640> like<00:55:02.700> to<00:55:02.880> actually<00:55:03.180> I'd<00:55:03.780> like<00:55:03.900> to<00:55:04.079> work would like to actually I’d like to work would like to actually I’d like to work with<00:55:04.440> you<00:55:04.800> and<00:55:05.400> determine<00:55:05.940> the<00:55:06.420> best<00:55:06.540> way<00:55:06.780> to with you and determine the best way to with you and determine the best way to present<00:55:07.440> this<00:55:07.740> okay<00:55:08.220> and<00:55:08.520> then<00:55:08.760> we'll<00:55:09.119> work present this okay and then we’ll work present this okay and then we’ll work back<00:55:09.480> from<00:55:09.720> there<00:55:09.900> but<00:55:10.079> yes<00:55:10.260> I'm<00:55:10.500> gonna<00:55:10.619> start back from there but yes I’m gonna start back from there but yes I’m gonna start talking<00:55:10.980> to<00:55:11.220> the<00:55:11.339> principals<00:55:11.760> next<00:55:12.000> week talking to the principals next week talking to the principals next week about<00:55:12.300> this<00:55:12.599> so<00:55:12.839> we<00:55:13.020> can<00:55:13.200> okay<00:55:13.619> we<00:55:13.859> can<00:55:13.980> get<00:55:14.160> a about this so we can okay we can get a about this so we can okay we can get a game<00:55:14.339> plan<00:55:14.460> together<00:55:14.760> and<00:55:15.660> Sarah<00:55:15.839> we<00:55:16.380> should game plan together and Sarah we should game plan together and Sarah we should probably probably probably um brief<00:55:19.020> no<00:55:19.380> probably<00:55:19.619> we<00:55:20.099> should<00:55:20.280> break<00:55:20.460> the

55:21 um brief no probably we should break the um brief no probably we should break the um full<00:55:21.660> school<00:55:21.839> committee<00:55:22.200> at<00:55:22.319> our<00:55:22.440> next um full school committee at our next um full school committee at our next meeting<00:55:22.800> just<00:55:23.160> to<00:55:23.460> let<00:55:23.700> them<00:55:23.880> know<00:55:24.059> because meeting just to let them know because meeting just to let them know because this<00:55:24.599> will<00:55:24.960> be<00:55:25.140> you<00:55:25.500> know<00:55:25.619> we<00:55:26.339> have<00:55:26.520> one<00:55:26.940> new this will be you know we have one new this will be you know we have one new member<00:55:27.420> but<00:55:27.960> um<00:55:28.020> you<00:55:28.319> know<00:55:28.440> this<00:55:28.559> may<00:55:28.800> be<00:55:28.980> a member but um you know this may be a member but um you know this may be a little<00:55:29.220> bit<00:55:29.400> of<00:55:29.579> a<00:55:29.640> different little bit of a different little bit of a different way<00:55:31.619> of<00:55:31.800> looking<00:55:31.980> at<00:55:32.220> numbers<00:55:32.400> as<00:55:32.760> we<00:55:32.940> get<00:55:33.059> into way of looking at numbers as we get into way of looking at numbers as we get into budget<00:55:33.660> season<00:55:33.839> and<00:55:34.200> they<00:55:34.680> should<00:55:34.920> know budget season and they should know budget season and they should know what’s<00:55:35.400> coming<00:55:35.700> down<00:55:35.880> the<00:55:36.000> pike what’s coming down the pike what’s coming down the pike yeah<00:55:37.079> and<00:55:37.440> I<00:55:37.559> think yeah and I think yeah and I think to<00:55:39.059> speak<00:55:39.180> to<00:55:39.420> to<00:55:40.020> that<00:55:40.339> we've<00:55:41.339> been<00:55:41.520> hearing to speak to to that we’ve been hearing to speak to to that we’ve been hearing from<00:55:42.180> the<00:55:42.420> public<00:55:42.599> that<00:55:43.260> this<00:55:43.500> piece<00:55:43.859> of from the public that this piece of from the public that this piece of information<00:55:44.099> has<00:55:44.579> been<00:55:44.760> what's<00:55:45.000> held<00:55:45.599> some information has been what’s held some information has been what’s held some people<00:55:46.020> back people back people back um<00:55:47.760> I<00:55:48.240> think<00:55:48.540> once<00:55:49.140> and<00:55:49.380> we<00:55:49.680> we<00:55:49.859> have<00:55:50.099> made<00:55:50.339> some um I think once and we we have made some um I think once and we we have made some huge<00:55:51.359> huge<00:55:51.720> gains<00:55:52.200> on<00:55:52.680> giving<00:55:52.980> people<00:55:53.280> lots<00:55:53.700> of huge huge gains on giving people lots of huge huge gains on giving people lots of information<00:55:53.940> in<00:55:54.420> a<00:55:54.660> very<00:55:54.839> easily<00:55:55.440> accessible information in a very easily accessible information in a very easily accessible way<00:55:56.359> this<00:55:57.359> to<00:55:57.540> me<00:55:57.720> is<00:55:58.020> the<00:55:58.260> final<00:55:58.500> piece<00:55:59.160> of way this to me is the final piece of way this to me is the final piece of things<00:55:59.940> that<00:56:00.420> we've<00:56:00.660> been<00:56:00.839> asked<00:56:01.319> for<00:56:01.680> and things that we’ve been asked for and things that we’ve been asked for and after<00:56:02.880> this<00:56:03.119> I<00:56:03.420> I<00:56:03.599> can't<00:56:03.900> imagine<00:56:04.079> anyone after this I I can’t imagine anyone after this I I can’t imagine anyone saying<00:56:04.920> I<00:56:05.339> don't<00:56:05.520> have<00:56:05.760> this<00:56:06.119> piece<00:56:06.359> of saying I don’t have this piece of saying I don’t have this piece of information<00:56:06.660> because<00:56:07.200> this<00:56:07.680> really<00:56:07.859> to<00:56:08.099> me<00:56:08.220> is

56:08 information because this really to me is information because this really to me is the<00:56:08.640> final<00:56:08.880> piece<00:56:09.540> of<00:56:10.319> changing<00:56:10.680> the<00:56:10.859> way the final piece of changing the way the final piece of changing the way we’ve<00:56:11.339> been<00:56:11.520> presenting<00:56:12.240> our<00:56:12.420> budget we’ve been presenting our budget we’ve been presenting our budget well<00:56:14.579> I'm<00:56:15.119> I'm<00:56:15.780> hopeful well I’m I’m hopeful well I’m I’m hopeful and<00:56:18.180> optimistic<00:56:19.099> that<00:56:20.099> what<00:56:20.460> this<00:56:20.700> will<00:56:20.880> allow and optimistic that what this will allow and optimistic that what this will allow us<00:56:21.480> to<00:56:21.839> do us to do us to do to<00:56:23.220> go<00:56:23.280> back<00:56:23.460> to<00:56:23.640> what<00:56:23.819> you<00:56:23.940> said<00:56:24.059> sort<00:56:24.300> of<00:56:24.359> the to go back to what you said sort of the to go back to what you said sort of the beginning<00:56:24.660> Sarah<00:56:24.960> was<00:56:25.319> to<00:56:25.619> present<00:56:26.040> the<00:56:26.640> true beginning Sarah was to present the true beginning Sarah was to present the true cost<00:56:27.119> of<00:56:27.420> educating<00:56:27.839> a<00:56:28.200> student<00:56:28.440> in cost of educating a student in cost of educating a student in Marblehead<00:56:29.240> and<00:56:30.240> then<00:56:30.540> you<00:56:31.140> know Marblehead and then you know Marblehead and then you know the<00:56:32.520> existential<00:56:33.119> question<00:56:33.359> is<00:56:33.780> you<00:56:34.260> know the existential question is you know the existential question is you know do<00:56:35.579> we<00:56:35.760> want<00:56:35.880> to<00:56:36.000> pay<00:56:36.059> for<00:56:36.240> that<00:56:36.359> or<00:56:36.780> how<00:56:36.960> do<00:56:37.079> we do we want to pay for that or how do we do we want to pay for that or how do we want<00:56:37.260> to<00:56:37.319> pay<00:56:37.440> for<00:56:37.559> that<00:56:37.680> like<00:56:37.859> that<00:56:38.040> that's want to pay for that like that that’s want to pay for that like that that’s that’s<00:56:38.520> what<00:56:38.880> that's<00:56:39.000> going<00:56:39.240> to<00:56:39.300> come<00:56:39.359> down<00:56:39.540> to that’s what that’s going to come down to that’s what that’s going to come down to but<00:56:39.900> it<00:56:40.079> is<00:56:40.200> it<00:56:40.500> is<00:56:40.740> you<00:56:41.040> know<00:56:41.099> it<00:56:41.280> is<00:56:41.460> going<00:56:41.640> to but it is it is you know it is going to but it is it is you know it is going to be<00:56:42.000> what<00:56:42.540> it<00:56:42.720> will<00:56:42.839> be<00:56:42.960> which<00:56:43.260> is<00:56:43.380> that<00:56:43.559> this<00:56:43.740> is be what it will be which is that this is be what it will be which is that this is how<00:56:44.040> much<00:56:44.220> it<00:56:44.520> costs<00:56:45.420> for<00:56:45.900> us<00:56:46.020> to<00:56:46.200> educate<00:56:46.619> all how much it costs for us to educate all how much it costs for us to educate all of<00:56:47.160> our<00:56:47.339> students<00:56:48.059> all<00:56:48.960> of<00:56:49.140> them of our students all of them of our students all of them um<00:56:50.400> and<00:56:50.579> all<00:56:50.760> of<00:56:50.880> the<00:56:51.000> needs<00:56:51.300> that<00:56:51.420> they<00:56:51.660> have

56:57 and you know that’s it so and you know that’s it so um<00:56:57.480> whatever<00:56:57.780> that<00:56:58.140> number<00:56:58.260> turns<00:56:58.740> out<00:56:58.800> to<00:56:58.980> be um whatever that number turns out to be um whatever that number turns out to be we<00:57:00.119> either<00:57:00.720> have<00:57:01.020> it<00:57:01.260> or<00:57:01.559> we<00:57:01.800> don't we either have it or we don’t we either have it or we don’t and<00:57:03.540> then<00:57:03.660> we<00:57:03.839> just<00:57:03.960> need<00:57:04.079> to<00:57:04.200> decide<00:57:04.500> and<00:57:04.800> then and then we just need to decide and then and then we just need to decide and then then<00:57:05.160> the<00:57:05.400> school<00:57:05.520> committee<00:57:05.940> with<00:57:06.300> the then the school committee with the then the school committee with the administration<00:57:06.960> makes<00:57:07.319> decisions<00:57:07.740> if administration makes decisions if administration makes decisions if we<00:57:09.240> need<00:57:09.359> to<00:57:09.540> at<00:57:09.839> that<00:57:10.020> point

57:14 on how we can deliver the education on how we can deliver the education all<00:57:15.540> right all right all right um<00:57:16.440> and<00:57:17.099> then<00:57:17.220> at<00:57:17.400> some<00:57:17.579> point<00:57:17.700> Michelle<00:57:17.940> you um and then at some point Michelle you um and then at some point Michelle you can<00:57:18.420> let<00:57:18.599> us<00:57:18.720> know<00:57:18.960> if<00:57:19.440> it's<00:57:19.680> you<00:57:20.400> know<00:57:20.520> if<00:57:21.000> it's can let us know if it’s you know if it’s can let us know if it’s you know if it’s more more more effective<00:57:23.880> I<00:57:24.720> know<00:57:24.839> we<00:57:25.020> we<00:57:25.260> always<00:57:25.500> have<00:57:26.040> our effective I know we we always have our effective I know we we always have our budget<00:57:29.099> workshop<00:57:29.520> with<00:57:29.700> our<00:57:29.880> principals budget workshop with our principals budget workshop with our principals where<00:57:30.780> we<00:57:31.020> throw<00:57:31.319> a<00:57:31.920> lot<00:57:32.040> of<00:57:32.160> questions<00:57:32.400> at where we throw a lot of questions at where we throw a lot of questions at them<00:57:33.059> after<00:57:33.300> they<00:57:33.540> presented<00:57:33.960> it<00:57:34.140> I've<00:57:34.500> often them after they presented it I’ve often them after they presented it I’ve often thought<00:57:35.099> it<00:57:35.640> might<00:57:35.819> be<00:57:35.940> helpful<00:57:36.300> to<00:57:36.720> have<00:57:36.960> that thought it might be helpful to have that thought it might be helpful to have that our<00:57:38.040> questions<00:57:38.280> concerns<00:57:39.059> and<00:57:39.240> things<00:57:39.359> like our questions concerns and things like our questions concerns and things like that<00:57:39.720> presented<00:57:40.500> to<00:57:40.619> them<00:57:40.800> before<00:57:41.400> they<00:57:41.760> come that presented to them before they come that presented to them before they come to<00:57:42.059> us<00:57:42.240> to<00:57:42.480> present<00:57:42.720> because<00:57:43.079> it<00:57:43.319> seems<00:57:43.680> very to us to present because it seems very to us to present because it seems very backwards<00:57:44.700> otherwise<00:57:45.119> that<00:57:45.540> they're<00:57:45.720> then backwards otherwise that they’re then backwards otherwise that they’re then you<00:57:47.400> know<00:57:47.520> okay<00:57:48.000> well<00:57:48.240> I<00:57:48.480> didn't<00:57:48.599> know<00:57:48.780> this you know okay well I didn’t know this you know okay well I didn’t know this was<00:57:49.079> your was your was your let’s<00:57:50.460> I'm<00:57:51.059> wondering<00:57:51.359> if<00:57:51.480> we<00:57:51.660> almost<00:57:51.839> have<00:57:52.140> a let’s I’m wondering if we almost have a let’s I’m wondering if we almost have a kick<00:57:52.559> off<00:57:52.740> to<00:57:53.040> budget<00:57:53.339> season<00:57:53.579> workshop<00:57:54.300> with kick off to budget season workshop with kick off to budget season workshop with all<00:57:54.780> of<00:57:54.900> us<00:57:55.079> so<00:57:55.319> they<00:57:55.559> know<00:57:55.859> the<00:57:56.460> types<00:57:56.760> of<00:57:56.880> data all of us so they know the types of data all of us so they know the types of data we’re<00:57:57.300> looking<00:57:57.540> for<00:57:57.839> how<00:57:58.260> it<00:57:58.380> needs<00:57:58.680> to<00:57:58.680> be we’re looking for how it needs to be we’re looking for how it needs to be presented<00:57:59.460> so<00:58:00.180> on<00:58:00.359> and<00:58:00.480> so<00:58:00.599> forth<00:58:00.960> so<00:58:01.380> when

58:01 presented so on and so forth so when presented so on and so forth so when they’re<00:58:01.800> doing<00:58:01.980> their<00:58:02.280> presentation<00:58:02.819> to<00:58:03.180> us they’re doing their presentation to us they’re doing their presentation to us it’s<00:58:03.780> really<00:58:03.960> essentially<00:58:04.380> answering<00:58:04.859> the it’s really essentially answering the it’s really essentially answering the questions<00:58:05.220> we've<00:58:05.579> already<00:58:05.760> asked questions we’ve already asked questions we’ve already asked yes<00:58:07.440> we<00:58:07.680> can<00:58:07.800> certainly<00:58:08.099> do<00:58:08.280> that<00:58:08.460> and<00:58:08.640> I'd yes we can certainly do that and I’d yes we can certainly do that and I’d love<00:58:09.059> to<00:58:09.180> work<00:58:09.300> with<00:58:09.480> you<00:58:09.599> guys<00:58:09.720> and<00:58:10.020> try<00:58:10.140> to love to work with you guys and try to love to work with you guys and try to make<00:58:10.500> sure<00:58:10.680> that<00:58:10.920> our<00:58:11.099> budget<00:58:11.400> packets<00:58:11.760> that make sure that our budget packets that make sure that our budget packets that we’re<00:58:12.119> sending<00:58:12.480> out<00:58:12.660> will<00:58:13.500> also<00:58:13.920> meet<00:58:14.220> you we’re sending out will also meet you we’re sending out will also meet you know<00:58:14.579> any<00:58:14.819> questions<00:58:15.380> requests<00:58:16.380> or know any questions requests or know any questions requests or um<00:58:17.280> questions<00:58:17.520> that<00:58:17.819> you<00:58:17.940> have<00:58:18.000> as<00:58:18.119> well<00:58:18.300> but<00:58:18.480> I um questions that you have as well but I um questions that you have as well but I do<00:58:18.720> think<00:58:18.900> a<00:58:19.079> meeting<00:58:19.440> early<00:58:19.800> on<00:58:20.040> in<00:58:20.220> the do think a meeting early on in the do think a meeting early on in the process<00:58:20.460> with<00:58:20.700> them<00:58:20.880> would<00:58:21.059> be<00:58:21.240> super<00:58:21.420> helpful process with them would be super helpful process with them would be super helpful okay<00:58:23.700> timelines<00:58:24.359> if<00:58:24.599> you're<00:58:24.780> thinking<00:58:25.020> you'll okay timelines if you’re thinking you’ll okay timelines if you’re thinking you’ll give<00:58:25.380> them<00:58:25.559> packets<00:58:25.980> in<00:58:26.160> October<00:58:26.700> we<00:58:27.480> should give them packets in October we should give them packets in October we should probably<00:58:27.900> be<00:58:28.200> looking<00:58:28.440> to<00:58:29.280> have<00:58:29.460> this<00:58:29.760> meeting probably be looking to have this meeting probably be looking to have this meeting either<00:58:31.319> right<00:58:31.559> when<00:58:31.740> they<00:58:31.859> get<00:58:32.040> the<00:58:32.160> packets either right when they get the packets either right when they get the packets or<00:58:32.880> you<00:58:33.240> know<00:58:33.359> a<00:58:33.780> little<00:58:33.900> before<00:58:34.079> or<00:58:34.380> after or you know a little before or after or you know a little before or after what<00:58:34.800> do<00:58:34.920> you<00:58:34.980> think<00:58:35.099> would<00:58:35.280> be<00:58:35.460> more what do you think would be more what do you think would be more effective<00:58:36.119> for<00:58:36.480> everyone<00:58:36.839> getting<00:58:37.319> what<00:58:37.619> they effective for everyone getting what they effective for everyone getting what they need need need as<00:58:39.720> long<00:58:39.960> as<00:58:40.079> the<00:58:40.680> packet<00:58:41.420> contains<00:58:42.420> form<00:58:43.140> so as long as the packet contains form so as long as the packet contains form so that<00:58:43.619> they<00:58:43.740> can<00:58:43.920> provide<00:58:44.280> the<00:58:44.579> information<00:58:44.819> I that they can provide the information I that they can provide the information I think<00:58:45.660> it<00:58:45.720> can<00:58:45.839> be<00:58:45.960> after<00:58:46.140> the<00:58:46.380> packets<00:58:46.680> go<00:58:46.920> out

58:47 think it can be after the packets go out think it can be after the packets go out because<00:58:47.460> really<00:58:48.180> I<00:58:48.420> want<00:58:48.480> to<00:58:48.599> give<00:58:48.720> them<00:58:48.839> as because really I want to give them as because really I want to give them as much<00:58:49.200> time<00:58:49.380> as<00:58:49.619> possible<00:58:49.920> the<00:58:50.579> past<00:58:50.760> couple<00:58:50.940> of much time as possible the past couple of much time as possible the past couple of years<00:58:51.240> we<00:58:51.599> really<00:58:51.780> haven't<00:58:51.960> given<00:58:52.380> them<00:58:52.500> an years we really haven’t given them an years we really haven’t given them an adequate<00:58:53.099> time<00:58:53.339> to<00:58:53.579> turn<00:58:53.760> them<00:58:53.940> around<00:58:54.180> and adequate time to turn them around and adequate time to turn them around and meet<00:58:54.780> with<00:58:54.960> their<00:58:55.200> peop<00:58:55.559> their<00:58:56.520> um meet with their peop their um meet with their peop their um what<00:58:58.740> are<00:58:58.859> they<00:58:58.980> called<00:58:59.460> um<00:58:59.460> the<00:58:59.640> school what are they called um the school what are they called um the school advisory<00:59:00.180> councils<00:59:00.720> the<00:59:01.079> sacs advisory councils the sacs advisory councils the sacs um<00:59:02.819> so<00:59:03.299> really<00:59:03.480> I'd<00:59:03.660> love<00:59:03.839> to<00:59:04.020> give<00:59:04.140> them<00:59:04.319> like um so really I’d love to give them like um so really I’d love to give them like three<00:59:04.799> or<00:59:04.920> four<00:59:05.099> weeks<00:59:05.520> so<00:59:05.880> ideally three or four weeks so ideally three or four weeks so ideally if<00:59:08.099> we<00:59:08.220> can<00:59:08.400> get<00:59:08.520> the<00:59:08.579> packets<00:59:08.880> out<00:59:09.059> to<00:59:09.180> them if we can get the packets out to them if we can get the packets out to them and<00:59:09.420> then<00:59:09.540> we<00:59:09.720> can<00:59:09.780> meet<00:59:09.900> with<00:59:10.079> them<00:59:10.260> maybe<00:59:10.440> in and then we can meet with them maybe in and then we can meet with them maybe in October October October um<00:59:12.359> I<00:59:12.540> think<00:59:12.660> that'd<00:59:12.900> be<00:59:12.900> ideal um I think that’d be ideal um I think that’d be ideal so<00:59:14.640> I<00:59:14.880> think<00:59:15.000> we<00:59:15.180> should<00:59:15.359> meet<00:59:15.599> again<00:59:15.780> not<00:59:16.319> not so I think we should meet again not not so I think we should meet again not not next<00:59:16.920> week<00:59:17.520> um<00:59:17.579> but<00:59:17.760> the<00:59:18.000> following<00:59:18.420> week<00:59:18.660> and next week um but the following week and next week um but the following week and really<00:59:19.619> start<00:59:19.920> to<00:59:20.099> flesh<00:59:20.460> out<00:59:20.579> a<00:59:20.880> little<00:59:21.000> more really start to flesh out a little more really start to flesh out a little more because<00:59:21.780> I<00:59:22.140> mean<00:59:22.260> we're<00:59:22.380> knocking<00:59:22.680> on<00:59:22.799> the because I mean we’re knocking on the because I mean we’re knocking on the door<00:59:23.040> of<00:59:23.220> October<00:59:23.640> at<00:59:23.880> that<00:59:24.059> point door of October at that point door of October at that point we<00:59:25.920> want<00:59:26.099> the<00:59:26.339> what<00:59:26.760> types<00:59:27.059> of<00:59:27.180> information we want the what types of information we want the what types of information and<00:59:28.140> in<00:59:28.500> that<00:59:28.740> time<00:59:28.920> period<00:59:29.280> if<00:59:29.460> I<00:59:29.640> can<00:59:29.760> ask and in that time period if I can ask and in that time period if I can ask people<00:59:30.299> you<00:59:31.079> know<00:59:31.140> Jen<00:59:31.380> in<00:59:31.559> particular people you know Jen in particular people you know Jen in particular because<00:59:32.040> you're<00:59:32.339> you're<00:59:32.520> looking<00:59:32.819> for<00:59:33.119> this

59:33 because you’re you’re looking for this because you’re you’re looking for this you<00:59:34.140> know<00:59:34.200> in<00:59:34.500> a<00:59:34.619> specific<00:59:34.859> way<00:59:35.099> yep<00:59:35.819> a<00:59:36.540> model you know in a specific way yep a model you know in a specific way yep a model of<00:59:37.500> a<00:59:37.619> district<00:59:37.799> that<00:59:38.220> is<00:59:38.400> presenting<00:59:38.940> it<00:59:39.119> if of a district that is presenting it if of a district that is presenting it if we<00:59:39.960> can we can we can you<00:59:42.180> know<00:59:42.240> share<00:59:42.480> that<00:59:42.660> with<00:59:42.839> everybody<00:59:43.339> and you know share that with everybody and you know share that with everybody and work<00:59:45.359> from<00:59:45.660> there<00:59:45.900> does<00:59:46.500> that<00:59:46.680> make<00:59:46.799> sense yep all right perfect yep all right perfect all<00:59:52.260> right<00:59:52.380> so<00:59:52.559> I'll<00:59:52.740> work<00:59:52.920> with<00:59:53.099> you<00:59:53.220> guys all right so I’ll work with you guys all right so I’ll work with you guys offline<00:59:53.760> to<00:59:54.000> find<00:59:54.180> a<00:59:54.359> date<00:59:54.480> that<00:59:54.839> works offline to find a date that works offline to find a date that works um<00:59:55.740> it<00:59:55.920> doesn't<00:59:56.099> make<00:59:56.460> sense<00:59:56.819> to<00:59:57.359> have<00:59:57.839> Finn um it doesn’t make sense to have Finn um it doesn’t make sense to have Finn come<00:59:58.920> at<00:59:59.099> that<00:59:59.339> meeting<00:59:59.579> yet<00:59:59.880> let's<01:00:00.420> figure come at that meeting yet let’s figure come at that meeting yet let’s figure out<01:00:00.960> what<01:00:01.500> we<01:00:01.680> need<01:00:01.859> for<01:00:02.099> our<01:00:02.339> data<01:00:02.640> and<01:00:02.819> then out what we need for our data and then out what we need for our data and then very<01:00:03.180> shortly<01:00:03.540> after<01:00:03.780> include<01:00:04.260> fincom<01:00:04.740> and very shortly after include fincom and very shortly after include fincom and that<01:00:05.099> so<01:00:05.339> that<01:00:05.460> we<01:00:05.579> make<01:00:05.760> sure<01:00:06.000> they<01:00:06.420> also<01:00:06.720> are that so that we make sure they also are that so that we make sure they also are getting<01:00:07.020> what<01:00:07.559> they<01:00:07.920> need<01:00:08.160> before<01:00:09.119> we getting what they need before we getting what they need before we produce<01:00:11.099> the<01:00:11.940> methodology<01:00:12.780> for<01:00:13.319> doing<01:00:13.500> this produce the methodology for doing this produce the methodology for doing this and<01:00:14.040> and<01:00:14.280> find<01:00:14.520> out<01:00:14.700> it<01:00:15.059> wasn't<01:00:15.240> meeting and and find out it wasn’t meeting and and find out it wasn’t meeting everyone’s<01:00:16.079> needs<01:00:16.559> so<01:00:17.339> of<01:00:17.819> any<01:00:18.119> other everyone’s needs so of any other everyone’s needs so of any other questions<01:00:18.480> on<01:00:18.839> FY<01:00:19.260> 25<01:00:19.680> budget<01:00:20.280> planning

1:00:24 all right um any new business all right um any new business subcommittee<01:00:25.859> announcements<01:00:26.400> and<01:00:26.640> requests

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