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School Committee: October 9, 2025

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The Marblehead High School building project subcommittee met on October 9th to review construction cost estimates, bidding documents, and roof system options. Two independent estimators placed construction costs just under the $11 million control budget, with an alternate roof restoration (fluid-applied coating) credit estimated between $500,000 and $1.1 million compared to a standard roof recover. The committee discussed specifying a polyurea-based performance specification for the fluid-applied alternate and tentatively planned a subcommittee meeting on November 6th to review bids after the general contractor bids come in on November 5th.

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Construction estimates come in just under $11M budget; roof restoration alternate debated

Two independent estimators placed costs under the $11M construction control budget, though their estimates for the fluid-applied roof restoration alternate diverged by roughly $500,000–$600,000.

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The construction control budget is just over $11 million. Both third-party estimators — RLB (Leftfield’s consultant) and PMNC (RDA’s consultant) — came in just under that figure. For the roof restoration alternate (fluid-applied coating vs. roof recover):

  • RLB estimated a credit of approximately $500,000
  • PMNC estimated a credit of approximately $1.1 million

Mike Velgi (Building Enclosure Associates), invited as a roofing expert with ~40 years of experience, explained the three options: full tear-off/replacement, roof recover, and fluid-applied restoration. He noted both recover and fluid-applied come with a 20-year warranty but that fluid-applied creates a seamless monolithic system with no seams — reducing the primary cause of roof leaks. He stated he would lean toward the recover option if the savings is only ~$500,000, but would favor the fluid-applied restoration if savings exceed $1 million.

A committee member (identified as Todd/district facilities contact) noted the fluid-applied system has already been used on the Marblehead rec center, police station, and DPW building. The committee discussed whether MSBA would reset the funding eligibility clock after either type of roof work; consultants acknowledged they would seek a definitive answer but noted MSBA has recently started accepting fluid-applied coating as a viable option.

Lena (Leftfield) · Molly Paris (RDA) · Brian Dacon (Leftfield) · Mike Velgi (Building Enclosure Associates) · Kareema (committee member) · Mark (committee member)

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Subcommittee opens; bidding schedule reviewed for MHS building project

Consultants from Leftfield and RDA outlined a tight bidding timeline with bid documents available October 15, a contractor walkthrough October 21, sub-bids due October 29, and GC bids due November 5.

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The subcommittee chair called the meeting to order at 12:01 and deferred minutes approval. Presenters Lena and Brian Dacon (Leftfield) and Molly Paris (RDA) reviewed the project schedule targeting summer 2026 construction. Key milestones:

Date Milestone
Oct 15 Bidding documents available to pre-qualified bidders
Oct 21 Optional contractor walkthrough at 3:00 PM
Oct 29 Filed sub-bids due (roofing, plumbing, mechanical, electrical)
Nov 5 General contractor/prime bids due

Presenters noted dates are subject to change pending contractor RFIs after the October 21 walkthrough.

Henry (Chair) · Lena (Leftfield, presenter) · Brian Dacon (Leftfield) · Molly Paris (RDA)

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Committee aligns on polyurea performance spec for roof alternate; bidding law constraints noted

After discussion of product quality and public bidding law, the committee directed RDA/Leftfield to write a performance specification centered on polyurea, working with manufacturer representatives to avoid a proprietary specification.

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The committee debated polyurea vs. polyurethane fluid-applied systems. Mike Velgi stated polyurea is superior by all measures and his preference is Garland’s polyurea product, though he has also used TMCO on other projects. Brian Dacon (Leftfield) confirmed the spec being written is a performance-based spec working directly with TMCO and Garland representatives, allowing either polyurea or polyurethane but requiring performance criteria to be met.

The committee reached general consensus to:

  1. Write the performance spec around polyurea standards (eliminating polyurethane)
  2. Ensure at least two to three qualifying manufacturers exist to avoid a proprietary specification under Massachusetts public bidding law
  3. Invite Mike Velgi to review the spec before it is released

Additional technical discussion covered:

  • HVAC curb replacement: all HVAC equipment is being replaced with new curbs; the entire building is not being converted to full HVAC — only areas originally designed for it
  • Ceiling removal/reinstallation: district facilities staff will remove and reinstall drop/acoustical ceilings; mechanical and plumbing contractors need ceiling access
  • Mold contingency: no line item in the contractor’s contract, but owner’s construction contingency outside the contractor’s contract could cover unforeseen mold
  • Substrate repair areas with wet insulation are identified on drawings (sheet A101); approximately 11,000 sq ft of insulation replacement is included as a blanket allowance with a credit if unused
  • A second infrared scan was completed; wet insulation areas cross-checked against new scan

Mike Velgi (Building Enclosure Associates) · Brian Dacon (Leftfield) · Molly Paris (RDA) · Lena (Leftfield) · Mark (committee member) · Kareema (committee member) · Ralph (committee member)

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Subcommittee plans November 6 meeting to review bids; November 14 set as drop-dead award date

With GC bids due November 5, the committee targeted a November 6 subcommittee review and same-evening school committee vote, with November 14 as the latest date for all approvals needed to award the contract.

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The committee discussed the approval chain after bids are received:

  1. Nov 5: GC bids due via Bid Docs online platform
  2. Nov 6 (morning/midday): Subcommittee meeting to review bids
  3. Nov 6 (evening): School committee meeting for recommendation and decision
  4. Shortly after: Select board vote (yes/no on the committee’s recommendation)
  5. Nov 14: Drop-dead date for all committee approvals to award contract

The committee acknowledged the two-week bid window (Oct 15–Nov 5) is tight. Consultants noted they will monitor plan-holder activity on Bid Docs and would make a decision around October 22 whether to push the schedule back a week if necessary. The committee chair noted a special school committee meeting could be called for a single agenda item if needed. Mike Velgi was invited to attend the November 6 meeting.

Regarding the bid specification: committee member Ralph cautioned that the performance spec must be written carefully so the actual product received at bid opening matches what the committee wants, noting that in public bidding the owner does not learn the specific product until submittals after contract award.

Henry (Chair) · Brian Dacon (Leftfield) · Lena (Leftfield) · Molly Paris (RDA) · Mark (committee member) · Kareema (committee member) · Ralph (committee member) · Mike Velgi (Building Enclosure Associates)

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Meeting adjourned at 12:59 by unanimous roll call vote

The chair conducted a roll call and the subcommittee adjourned at 12:59 PM.

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The chair called for a motion to adjourn. Members Mark, Kareema, Mike Pifferling, Brian Sarafin, Ralph, and the chair all voted in favor. The meeting adjourned at 12:59 PM.

Henry (Chair) · Mark · Kareema · Mike Pifferling · Brian Sarafin · Ralph

1 decision
  1. Approved adjournment at 12:59
1 vote
  • in favor (unanimous) Motion to adjourn
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3:19 just want to say that this is um this is just want to say that this is um this is a<00:03:20.720> um<00:03:20.959> a<00:03:21.200> tight<00:03:21.599> bidding<00:03:22.080> schedule.<00:03:22.800> So<00:03:23.120> these a um a tight bidding schedule. So these a um a tight bidding schedule. So these dates,<00:03:23.760> although<00:03:24.000> it<00:03:24.080> doesn't<00:03:24.239> say<00:03:24.400> it<00:03:24.560> on dates, although it doesn’t say it on dates, although it doesn’t say it on here,<00:03:24.879> are<00:03:25.280> subject<00:03:25.599> to<00:03:25.840> change<00:03:26.800> uh<00:03:26.959> based<00:03:27.200> on, here, are subject to change uh based on, here, are subject to change uh based on, you<00:03:27.760> know,<00:03:27.920> especially<00:03:28.319> after<00:03:28.560> the<00:03:28.800> walkth you know, especially after the walkth you know, especially after the walkth through<00:03:29.280> on<00:03:29.519> the<00:03:29.680> 21st,<00:03:30.400> we<00:03:31.360> um<00:03:31.760> will<00:03:32.080> probably through on the 21st, we um will probably through on the 21st, we um will probably receive<00:03:32.959> requests<00:03:33.360> for<00:03:33.599> information<00:03:34.080> or<00:03:34.400> RFIs receive requests for information or RFIs receive requests for information or RFIs from<00:03:36.000> contractors<00:03:37.120> and<00:03:37.840> that<00:03:38.640> agenda<00:03:39.360> may from contractors and that agenda may from contractors and that agenda may need<00:03:39.920> to<00:03:40.080> be<00:03:40.239> issued.<00:03:40.799> And<00:03:41.040> so<00:03:42.000> um<00:03:42.159> we<00:03:42.400> will need to be issued. And so um we will need to be issued. And so um we will notify,<00:03:43.440> you<00:03:43.599> know,<00:03:43.760> the<00:03:44.159> committee<00:03:44.480> through notify, you know, the committee through notify, you know, the committee through the<00:03:45.040> chair,<00:03:45.920> um<00:03:46.159> and<00:03:46.480> Michael<00:03:46.799> Perling,<00:03:47.599> uh the chair, um and Michael Perling, uh the chair, um and Michael Perling, uh that<00:03:48.080> if<00:03:48.319> we<00:03:48.560> need<00:03:48.640> to<00:03:48.799> push<00:03:49.040> the<00:03:49.280> any<00:03:49.519> of<00:03:49.599> these that if we need to push the any of these that if we need to push the any of these bidding<00:03:50.159> dates.<00:03:50.720> Um<00:03:51.040> but<00:03:51.280> we<00:03:51.519> still<00:03:51.840> are<00:03:52.319> um bidding dates. Um but we still are um bidding dates. Um but we still are um planning<00:03:52.799> on<00:03:53.519> um<00:03:53.680> going<00:03:54.000> forward<00:03:54.239> with planning on um going forward with planning on um going forward with bidding<00:03:54.879> as<00:03:55.440> um<00:03:55.680> shown<00:03:56.000> on<00:03:56.159> the<00:03:56.239> screen.

4:03 And um next slide is the um construction And um next slide is the um construction cost<00:04:04.400> estimates<00:04:05.200> in<00:04:05.519> your<00:04:06.159> uh<00:04:06.319> packet.<00:04:06.720> You cost estimates in your uh packet. You cost estimates in your uh packet. You should<00:04:07.040> have<00:04:07.120> the<00:04:07.360> full<00:04:07.519> estimates<00:04:08.080> both<00:04:08.400> from should have the full estimates both from should have the full estimates both from um<00:04:09.040> PMNC<00:04:09.920> who<00:04:10.239> is<00:04:10.879> um<00:04:11.920> who<00:04:12.159> is<00:04:12.239> RDA's<00:04:13.120> um um PMNC who is um who is RDA’s um um PMNC who is um who is RDA’s um thirdparty<00:04:14.480> consultant<00:04:14.959> and<00:04:15.280> RLB<00:04:15.840> who<00:04:16.000> is thirdparty consultant and RLB who is thirdparty consultant and RLB who is Leftfield’s<00:04:16.799> third<00:04:17.040> party<00:04:17.359> consultant.<00:04:18.000> um Leftfield’s third party consultant. um Leftfield’s third party consultant. um both<00:04:18.400> third<00:04:18.720> party<00:04:18.959> estimators<00:04:19.680> um<00:04:19.759> who<00:04:20.000> do<00:04:20.160> a both third party estimators um who do a both third party estimators um who do a lot<00:04:20.400> of<00:04:20.479> public<00:04:20.799> work<00:04:21.600> and<00:04:22.079> as<00:04:22.320> you<00:04:22.479> can<00:04:22.639> see<00:04:23.680> um lot of public work and as you can see um lot of public work and as you can see um just<00:04:24.639> jumping<00:04:25.040> right<00:04:25.199> down<00:04:25.360> to<00:04:25.520> the<00:04:25.680> bottom just jumping right down to the bottom just jumping right down to the bottom numbers.<00:04:26.400> So<00:04:26.639> our<00:04:27.120> construction<00:04:27.840> control numbers. So our construction control numbers. So our construction control budget<00:04:28.720> within<00:04:29.120> the<00:04:29.360> project<00:04:29.840> is<00:04:30.400> uh<00:04:30.479> just budget within the project is uh just budget within the project is uh just over<00:04:31.120> $11<00:04:31.520> million<00:04:32.560> and<00:04:32.880> both<00:04:33.199> of<00:04:33.440> the over $11 million and both of the over $11 million and both of the estimates<00:04:34.960> um<00:04:35.199> came<00:04:35.440> in<00:04:35.759> right<00:04:36.000> under<00:04:36.320> that. estimates um came in right under that. estimates um came in right under that. So<00:04:37.680> um<00:04:37.840> this<00:04:38.000> is<00:04:38.240> this<00:04:38.479> is<00:04:38.639> good<00:04:38.800> news<00:04:39.280> um<00:04:39.360> as<00:04:39.680> we So um this is this is good news um as we So um this is this is good news um as we are<00:04:40.080> trending<00:04:40.479> on<00:04:40.720> budget<00:04:41.120> according<00:04:41.440> to<00:04:41.600> the are trending on budget according to the are trending on budget according to the estimates.<00:04:42.800> uh<00:04:42.960> we<00:04:43.199> really<00:04:43.520> as<00:04:43.759> everyone estimates. uh we really as everyone estimates. uh we really as everyone knows<00:04:44.400> really<00:04:44.639> won't<00:04:44.880> have<00:04:45.040> real<00:04:45.360> numbers knows really won’t have real numbers knows really won’t have real numbers until<00:04:45.919> the<00:04:46.160> bids<00:04:46.720> come<00:04:46.960> in<00:04:47.199> but<00:04:47.520> this<00:04:47.680> is<00:04:48.479> um

4:48 until the bids come in but this is um until the bids come in but this is um good<00:04:49.040> news<00:04:49.520> and<00:04:50.000> um<00:04:50.160> so<00:04:50.400> just<00:04:50.560> to<00:04:50.800> touch<00:04:50.960> upon<00:04:51.680> a good news and um so just to touch upon a good news and um so just to touch upon a note<00:04:52.160> here<00:04:52.400> so<00:04:52.800> ceiling<00:04:53.280> removal<00:04:53.759> and note here so ceiling removal and note here so ceiling removal and reinstallation<00:04:55.199> we've<00:04:55.440> coordinated<00:04:55.840> this reinstallation we’ve coordinated this reinstallation we’ve coordinated this with<00:04:56.240> the<00:04:56.479> district<00:04:57.360> we<00:04:58.080> um<00:04:58.320> so<00:04:59.040> Todd<00:04:59.440> has<00:04:59.759> has with the district we um so Todd has has with the district we um so Todd has has said<00:05:00.320> that<00:05:00.720> um<00:05:01.360> he<00:05:01.600> would<00:05:01.759> be<00:05:01.919> able<00:05:02.080> to<00:05:02.160> do<00:05:02.320> this said that um he would be able to do this said that um he would be able to do this with<00:05:02.720> his<00:05:02.960> staff<00:05:03.919> um<00:05:04.160> but<00:05:04.479> if<00:05:04.800> we<00:05:05.040> need<00:05:05.120> to<00:05:05.440> we with his staff um but if we need to we with his staff um but if we need to we can<00:05:05.759> help<00:05:05.919> the<00:05:06.320> district<00:05:06.720> procure<00:05:07.280> a<00:05:07.520> third can help the district procure a third can help the district procure a third party<00:05:08.320> or<00:05:08.639> I'm<00:05:08.800> sorry<00:05:09.039> not<00:05:09.199> a<00:05:09.280> third<00:05:09.440> party<00:05:09.680> but party or I’m sorry not a third party but party or I’m sorry not a third party but a<00:05:10.000> ceiling<00:05:10.320> contractor<00:05:10.960> through<00:05:11.520> Um,<00:05:12.479> chapter a ceiling contractor through Um, chapter a ceiling contractor through Um, chapter 30B<00:05:13.440> really<00:05:13.680> it's<00:05:14.000> removal<00:05:14.400> and 30B really it’s removal and 30B really it’s removal and reinstallation<00:05:15.520> of<00:05:15.759> the<00:05:16.000> ceilings.<00:05:16.880> Uh,<00:05:17.199> the reinstallation of the ceilings. Uh, the reinstallation of the ceilings. Uh, the plan<00:05:17.840> right<00:05:18.160> now<00:05:18.560> is<00:05:18.880> to<00:05:19.840> the<00:05:20.160> day<00:05:20.320> that<00:05:20.639> school plan right now is to the day that school plan right now is to the day that school gets<00:05:21.199> out<00:05:21.520> the<00:05:21.759> the<00:05:22.080> next<00:05:22.320> day<00:05:22.960> um<00:05:23.199> facility gets out the the next day um facility gets out the the next day um facility district<00:05:24.240> facilities<00:05:24.800> will<00:05:25.120> clean<00:05:25.759> the district facilities will clean the district facilities will clean the classrooms,<00:05:26.639> move<00:05:26.880> the<00:05:27.039> furniture<00:05:27.600> and<00:05:28.479> we classrooms, move the furniture and we classrooms, move the furniture and we will<00:05:28.880> have<00:05:29.039> the<00:05:29.440> ceiling<00:05:29.840> contractor<00:05:30.320> or<00:05:30.639> be will have the ceiling contractor or be will have the ceiling contractor or be working<00:05:30.960> with<00:05:31.120> the<00:05:31.280> district<00:05:31.520> and<00:05:31.680> have<00:05:31.840> them working with the district and have them working with the district and have them ready<00:05:32.240> to<00:05:32.400> go<00:05:33.039> uh<00:05:33.120> that<00:05:33.440> next<00:05:33.680> day<00:05:33.919> after.<00:05:34.479> So

5:34 ready to go uh that next day after. So ready to go uh that next day after. So even<00:05:35.120> as<00:05:35.360> the<00:05:35.520> general<00:05:35.840> contractor<00:05:36.320> is even as the general contractor is even as the general contractor is mobilizing,<00:05:37.120> the<00:05:37.280> ceilings<00:05:37.680> are<00:05:37.840> already mobilizing, the ceilings are already mobilizing, the ceilings are already being<00:05:38.560> removed<00:05:39.520> and<00:05:40.080> so<00:05:40.479> the<00:05:40.720> general being removed and so the general being removed and so the general contractor<00:05:41.600> has<00:05:41.840> no<00:05:42.160> excuse<00:05:42.479> because<00:05:42.720> the contractor has no excuse because the contractor has no excuse because the ceilings<00:05:43.280> will<00:05:43.440> be<00:05:43.600> open.<00:05:44.160> Uh<00:05:44.400> and<00:05:44.639> then<00:05:44.800> the ceilings will be open. Uh and then the ceilings will be open. Uh and then the plan<00:05:45.120> is<00:05:45.360> once<00:05:45.759> the<00:05:46.479> um<00:05:46.639> really<00:05:46.880> it's<00:05:47.039> the plan is once the um really it’s the plan is once the um really it’s the mechanical<00:05:47.680> and<00:05:48.000> plumbing<00:05:48.320> contractors<00:05:48.800> that mechanical and plumbing contractors that mechanical and plumbing contractors that need<00:05:49.199> to<00:05:49.360> get<00:05:49.840> above<00:05:50.240> those<00:05:50.560> ceilings<00:05:51.280> um<00:05:51.680> to need to get above those ceilings um to need to get above those ceilings um to do<00:05:52.080> their<00:05:52.320> work.<00:05:52.560> Once<00:05:52.880> that<00:05:53.039> is<00:05:53.280> done<00:05:53.759> um<00:05:53.840> at do their work. Once that is done um at do their work. Once that is done um at the<00:05:54.240> end<00:05:54.320> of<00:05:54.400> the<00:05:54.560> summer,<00:05:55.199> this<00:05:55.600> ceiling the end of the summer, this ceiling the end of the summer, this ceiling contractor<00:05:56.639> or<00:05:56.960> the<00:05:57.199> district<00:05:57.600> facilities contractor or the district facilities contractor or the district facilities will<00:05:58.240> come<00:05:58.400> in<00:05:58.560> and<00:05:58.880> reinstall<00:06:00.240> um<00:06:00.320> the will come in and reinstall um the will come in and reinstall um the ceilings<00:06:01.360> uh<00:06:01.600> there<00:06:01.919> as<00:06:02.160> well.<00:06:02.800> And<00:06:02.960> these<00:06:03.199> are ceilings uh there as well. And these are ceilings uh there as well. And these are these<00:06:03.600> are<00:06:03.840> drop<00:06:04.160> ceilings.<00:06:04.560> These<00:06:04.720> are these are drop ceilings. These are these are drop ceilings. These are grids.<00:06:05.360> These<00:06:05.520> aren't<00:06:05.919> correct<00:06:06.400> plastered grids. These aren’t correct plastered grids. These aren’t correct plastered ceilings<00:06:07.280> or<00:06:07.520> anything<00:06:07.680> like<00:06:07.919> that. ceilings or anything like that. ceilings or anything like that. » Yes,<00:06:08.720> that's<00:06:08.960> a<00:06:09.120> good<00:06:09.280> clarification.<00:06:09.840> Yep. » Yes, that’s a good clarification. Yep. » Yes, that’s a good clarification. Yep. These<00:06:10.319> are<00:06:10.400> acoustical<00:06:11.360> um<00:06:11.600> ceilings.<00:06:12.080> There These are acoustical um ceilings. There These are acoustical um ceilings. There are<00:06:12.400> no<00:06:13.280> um<00:06:13.600> hard<00:06:13.919> drywall<00:06:14.400> or<00:06:14.639> plaster are no um hard drywall or plaster are no um hard drywall or plaster ceilings<00:06:15.600> um<00:06:15.680> involved<00:06:16.000> in<00:06:16.160> this<00:06:16.400> work. ceilings um involved in this work. ceilings um involved in this work. » Thank<00:06:17.280> you. » Thank you. » Thank you. » Absolutely.<00:06:19.120> Uh<00:06:19.440> you'll<00:06:19.680> notice<00:06:19.919> on<00:06:20.160> here<00:06:20.400> as

6:20 » Absolutely. Uh you’ll notice on here as » Absolutely. Uh you’ll notice on here as well<00:06:21.120> um<00:06:21.199> we<00:06:21.520> have<00:06:21.680> the<00:06:22.400> both<00:06:22.720> estimators<00:06:23.840> um well um we have the both estimators um well um we have the both estimators um did<00:06:24.479> estimates<00:06:24.960> for<00:06:25.360> alternate<00:06:25.919> one<00:06:26.240> which<00:06:26.479> is did estimates for alternate one which is did estimates for alternate one which is the<00:06:26.720> roof<00:06:27.199> restoration<00:06:27.919> because<00:06:28.080> that's<00:06:28.319> how the roof restoration because that’s how the roof restoration because that’s how it’s<00:06:28.720> being<00:06:29.199> bid<00:06:29.520> as<00:06:29.680> an<00:06:29.840> alternate.<00:06:30.800> And<00:06:31.360> uh it’s being bid as an alternate. And uh it’s being bid as an alternate. And uh the<00:06:32.400> you<00:06:32.639> know<00:06:32.800> these<00:06:33.039> are<00:06:33.199> estimates<00:06:33.759> so<00:06:34.000> the the you know these are estimates so the the you know these are estimates so the numbers<00:06:34.639> you<00:06:34.720> know<00:06:34.800> are<00:06:35.039> slightly<00:06:35.360> different numbers you know are slightly different numbers you know are slightly different but<00:06:35.919> RLB<00:06:36.479> is<00:06:36.639> estimating<00:06:37.120> it's<00:06:37.680> a<00:06:38.000> savings<00:06:38.400> of but RLB is estimating it’s a savings of but RLB is estimating it’s a savings of approximately<00:06:39.440> 500<00:06:40.000> a<00:06:40.160> little<00:06:40.319> over<00:06:40.639> $500,000 approximately 500 a little over $500,000 approximately 500 a little over $500,000 and<00:06:42.160> PMNC's<00:06:43.039> estimate<00:06:43.440> shows<00:06:44.000> um<00:06:44.160> it's<00:06:44.400> a and PMNC’s estimate shows um it’s a and PMNC’s estimate shows um it’s a little<00:06:44.960> over<00:06:45.199> a<00:06:45.440> million<00:06:45.759> dollars.<00:06:46.560> So<00:06:47.360> um little over a million dollars. So um little over a million dollars. So um yeah<00:06:48.319> I'm<00:06:48.560> going<00:06:48.639> to<00:06:48.800> go<00:06:48.880> to<00:06:49.039> the<00:06:49.520> next<00:06:50.160> Yes.<00:06:51.039> Um yeah I’m going to go to the next Yes. Um yeah I’m going to go to the next Yes. Um I<00:06:51.919> believe<00:06:52.160> Kareeimma<00:06:52.639> has<00:06:52.800> a<00:06:53.039> question. I believe Kareeimma has a question. I believe Kareeimma has a question. » Yeah.<00:06:55.120> Just<00:06:55.360> staying<00:06:55.680> with<00:06:56.000> that<00:06:56.240> estimate. » Yeah. Just staying with that estimate. » Yeah. Just staying with that estimate. Do<00:06:56.960> you<00:06:57.199> know<00:06:57.520> how<00:06:57.759> much<00:06:57.919> of<00:06:58.080> that<00:06:58.240> estimate Do you know how much of that estimate Do you know how much of that estimate has<00:06:59.199> allowances<00:06:59.840> built<00:07:00.160> into<00:07:00.400> it<00:07:00.639> and<00:07:00.960> like has allowances built into it and like has allowances built into it and like where<00:07:01.440> our<00:07:02.000> like<00:07:02.319> dollar<00:07:02.720> value<00:07:03.120> like<00:07:03.360> the<00:07:03.840> um where our like dollar value like the um where our like dollar value like the um the<00:07:05.039> risk<00:07:05.280> is<00:07:05.520> and<00:07:05.759> how<00:07:05.919> much<00:07:06.080> they<00:07:06.319> were

7:06 the risk is and how much they were the risk is and how much they were actually<00:07:06.960> able<00:07:07.199> to<00:07:07.440> price<00:07:07.759> versus<00:07:08.080> whether actually able to price versus whether actually able to price versus whether they<00:07:08.639> just<00:07:08.800> plugged<00:07:09.039> in<00:07:09.199> allowances<00:07:09.759> with they just plugged in allowances with they just plugged in allowances with unknowns. unknowns. unknowns. » Sure.<00:07:11.280> That's<00:07:11.440> a<00:07:11.599> good<00:07:11.759> question.<00:07:12.160> So<00:07:12.479> I<00:07:12.720> do<00:07:13.280> um » Sure. That’s a good question. So I do um » Sure. That’s a good question. So I do um when<00:07:13.680> we<00:07:13.840> went<00:07:14.000> through<00:07:14.240> the<00:07:14.479> estimate when we went through the estimate when we went through the estimate reconciliation reconciliation reconciliation uh<00:07:16.960> both<00:07:17.199> estimators<00:07:17.840> and<00:07:18.080> their<00:07:18.240> teams<00:07:19.039> um uh both estimators and their teams um uh both estimators and their teams um were<00:07:19.599> on<00:07:20.000> so<00:07:20.880> um<00:07:21.039> they<00:07:21.280> were<00:07:21.360> on<00:07:21.599> the<00:07:21.759> estimate were on so um they were on the estimate were on so um they were on the estimate reconciliation.<00:07:22.960> I<00:07:23.199> did<00:07:23.360> hear<00:07:23.599> them<00:07:24.160> talk reconciliation. I did hear them talk reconciliation. I did hear them talk about<00:07:24.720> getting<00:07:25.039> numbers<00:07:25.360> and<00:07:25.599> having about getting numbers and having about getting numbers and having conversations<00:07:26.639> specifically,<00:07:27.360> especially conversations specifically, especially conversations specifically, especially with<00:07:27.919> HVAC<00:07:28.639> and<00:07:28.800> roofing<00:07:29.280> contractors.<00:07:30.479> Um,<00:07:31.199> I with HVAC and roofing contractors. Um, I with HVAC and roofing contractors. Um, I did<00:07:32.080> not<00:07:32.240> hear<00:07:32.560> specifics<00:07:33.120> about<00:07:33.440> plumbing did not hear specifics about plumbing did not hear specifics about plumbing and<00:07:34.160> electrical,<00:07:34.960> but<00:07:35.440> um,<00:07:35.599> I<00:07:35.759> I<00:07:36.000> think<00:07:36.080> it<00:07:36.319> did and electrical, but um, I I think it did and electrical, but um, I I think it did provide<00:07:36.960> some<00:07:37.199> good<00:07:37.680> comfort<00:07:38.080> for<00:07:38.639> HVAC<00:07:39.360> and provide some good comfort for HVAC and provide some good comfort for HVAC and roofing<00:07:40.000> contractors.<00:07:41.039> Um,<00:07:41.360> as<00:07:41.599> far<00:07:41.680> as roofing contractors. Um, as far as roofing contractors. Um, as far as allowances,<00:07:42.400> Karema,<00:07:42.960> I<00:07:43.199> would<00:07:43.360> say<00:07:44.000> that, allowances, Karema, I would say that, allowances, Karema, I would say that, um,<00:07:44.960> you<00:07:45.120> know,<00:07:45.280> between<00:07:46.319> design<00:07:46.639> and<00:07:46.880> pricing um, you know, between design and pricing um, you know, between design and pricing contingencies<00:07:47.840> and<00:07:48.080> escalation, contingencies and escalation, contingencies and escalation, those,<00:07:50.400> you<00:07:50.560> know,<00:07:50.720> would<00:07:51.039> be<00:07:52.319> I'<00:07:52.560> I'd<00:07:52.880> say

7:53 those, you know, would be I’ I’d say those, you know, would be I’ I’d say like<00:07:53.199> a<00:07:53.440> a<00:07:54.240> um<00:07:54.639> somewhat<00:07:55.039> of<00:07:55.199> a<00:07:55.520> a<00:07:56.080> I<00:07:56.319> don't<00:07:56.400> know like a a um somewhat of a a I don’t know like a a um somewhat of a a I don’t know the<00:07:56.720> right<00:07:56.800> language<00:07:57.039> to<00:07:57.199> use.<00:07:57.440> Probably<00:07:57.759> like the right language to use. Probably like the right language to use. Probably like a<00:07:58.960> Yeah,<00:07:59.199> I'd<00:07:59.440> say<00:07:59.520> they're<00:07:59.759> not<00:07:59.919> they're<00:08:00.160> not a Yeah, I’d say they’re not they’re not a Yeah, I’d say they’re not they’re not hard<00:08:00.720> allowances<00:08:01.360> within<00:08:01.759> their<00:08:02.160> um<00:08:02.319> within hard allowances within their um within hard allowances within their um within their<00:08:02.879> numbers,<00:08:03.280> but<00:08:03.520> there's,<00:08:04.319> you<00:08:04.479> know, their numbers, but there’s, you know, their numbers, but there’s, you know, some<00:08:05.039> some<00:08:05.919> ability<00:08:06.400> within<00:08:06.720> there<00:08:06.879> to<00:08:07.120> to some some ability within there to to some some ability within there to to move.<00:08:07.759> Um,<00:08:08.319> yeah.<00:08:08.639> Does<00:08:08.800> that<00:08:08.960> answer<00:08:09.199> your move. Um, yeah. Does that answer your move. Um, yeah. Does that answer your question? question? question? a<00:08:11.280> little<00:08:11.360> bit.<00:08:11.599> I<00:08:11.759> just<00:08:11.919> I<00:08:12.000> I<00:08:12.479> uh<00:08:12.639> I'll<00:08:13.199> start a little bit. I just I I uh I’ll start a little bit. I just I I uh I’ll start this<00:08:13.599> meeting,<00:08:13.840> but<00:08:14.000> I<00:08:14.080> didn't<00:08:14.240> have<00:08:14.240> a<00:08:14.400> chance this meeting, but I didn’t have a chance this meeting, but I didn’t have a chance to<00:08:14.639> go<00:08:14.800> through<00:08:14.960> a<00:08:15.039> lot<00:08:15.120> of<00:08:15.199> the<00:08:15.440> documents. to go through a lot of the documents. to go through a lot of the documents. So,<00:08:16.080> I<00:08:16.240> just<00:08:16.479> I'd<00:08:16.720> quickly<00:08:17.039> se<00:08:17.280> seen<00:08:17.599> a<00:08:17.759> couple So, I just I’d quickly se seen a couple So, I just I’d quickly se seen a couple allowances<00:08:18.479> within<00:08:18.879> the<00:08:19.039> actual<00:08:19.360> budget.<00:08:19.599> I allowances within the actual budget. I allowances within the actual budget. I know<00:08:19.919> we<00:08:20.000> have<00:08:20.080> a<00:08:20.240> design<00:08:20.479> contingency<00:08:21.039> at<00:08:21.199> the know we have a design contingency at the know we have a design contingency at the end.<00:08:21.520> So,<00:08:22.000> but<00:08:22.240> that's<00:08:22.400> good<00:08:22.639> information end. So, but that’s good information end. So, but that’s good information that<00:08:23.120> they<00:08:23.360> actually<00:08:23.680> received<00:08:24.080> like<00:08:24.240> they that they actually received like they that they actually received like they went<00:08:24.479> out<00:08:24.560> to<00:08:24.720> an<00:08:24.879> HBAC<00:08:25.440> sub<00:08:25.680> and<00:08:25.759> the<00:08:25.840> roofing went out to an HBAC sub and the roofing went out to an HBAC sub and the roofing sub<00:08:26.639> for<00:08:26.879> some<00:08:27.120> of<00:08:27.199> the<00:08:27.360> bigger<00:08:27.680> stuff<00:08:27.919> to<00:08:28.160> get sub for some of the bigger stuff to get sub for some of the bigger stuff to get um<00:08:29.039> numbers.<00:08:29.680> Um<00:08:30.319> okay.<00:08:30.720> I<00:08:30.960> just<00:08:31.120> but<00:08:31.280> I<00:08:31.440> had um numbers. Um okay. I just but I had um numbers. Um okay. I just but I had seen<00:08:31.759> a<00:08:31.919> bunch<00:08:32.000> of<00:08:32.159> like<00:08:32.320> not<00:08:32.479> a<00:08:32.640> bunch<00:08:32.800> but<00:08:32.959> I seen a bunch of like not a bunch but I seen a bunch of like not a bunch but I saw<00:08:33.519> plugs<00:08:34.080> throughout<00:08:34.560> their<00:08:34.800> estimate saw plugs throughout their estimate saw plugs throughout their estimate which<00:08:35.760> flags<00:08:36.240> risk<00:08:36.880> and<00:08:37.039> I<00:08:37.279> just<00:08:37.440> didn't<00:08:37.680> know which flags risk and I just didn’t know which flags risk and I just didn’t know I<00:08:38.080> didn't<00:08:38.159> have<00:08:38.240> a<00:08:38.399> chance<00:08:38.479> to<00:08:38.640> figure<00:08:38.800> out<00:08:38.959> how

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8:48 » one of the if I could just touch on that » one of the if I could just touch on that too<00:08:48.560> um<00:08:49.279> one<00:08:49.519> of<00:08:49.680> the<00:08:50.160> things<00:08:50.320> was<00:08:50.640> you<00:08:50.720> know too um one of the things was you know too um one of the things was you know that<00:08:51.120> was<00:08:51.920> the<00:08:52.160> estimate<00:08:52.560> was<00:08:52.800> based<00:08:52.959> on<00:08:53.120> the that was the estimate was based on the that was the estimate was based on the 60%<00:08:54.560> documents<00:08:55.200> so<00:08:55.519> that<00:08:55.760> might<00:08:55.920> be<00:08:56.080> why<00:08:56.320> some 60% documents so that might be why some 60% documents so that might be why some of<00:08:56.720> them<00:08:57.040> were<00:08:57.279> plugged<00:08:57.519> in<00:08:57.680> as<00:08:57.920> allowances of them were plugged in as allowances of them were plugged in as allowances but<00:08:58.640> during<00:08:58.880> that<00:08:59.120> reconciliation<00:08:59.760> that<00:09:00.000> Lena but during that reconciliation that Lena but during that reconciliation that Lena was<00:09:00.560> talking<00:09:00.800> about<00:09:01.680> um<00:09:01.920> we<00:09:02.240> kind<00:09:02.480> of was talking about um we kind of was talking about um we kind of clarified<00:09:03.360> the<00:09:03.680> scope<00:09:04.480> more<00:09:04.800> closely<00:09:05.120> to<00:09:05.360> 90%. clarified the scope more closely to 90%. clarified the scope more closely to 90%. So<00:09:07.200> um<00:09:07.440> okay So um okay So um okay » it<00:09:08.080> might<00:09:08.320> be<00:09:08.480> shown<00:09:08.720> as<00:09:08.959> kind<00:09:09.120> of<00:09:09.279> allowances » it might be shown as kind of allowances » it might be shown as kind of allowances but<00:09:10.000> we<00:09:10.240> feel<00:09:10.640> comfortable<00:09:11.040> that<00:09:12.080> the<00:09:12.959> it but we feel comfortable that the it but we feel comfortable that the it captured<00:09:13.680> the<00:09:14.720> closer<00:09:15.040> to<00:09:15.279> 100%<00:09:15.760> scope. captured the closer to 100% scope. captured the closer to 100% scope. » Okay, » Okay, » Okay, » good<00:09:18.800> point<00:09:19.040> Molly.<00:09:19.440> Thanks. » good point Molly. Thanks. » good point Molly. Thanks. And<00:09:21.920> so<00:09:22.160> the<00:09:22.399> next<00:09:22.560> two<00:09:22.800> slides<00:09:23.600> um<00:09:23.839> h<00:09:24.240> RDA And so the next two slides um h RDA And so the next two slides um h RDA developed<00:09:25.360> these<00:09:26.080> um<00:09:26.320> and<00:09:27.279> we<00:09:27.680> previously developed these um and we previously developed these um and we previously went<00:09:28.320> through<00:09:28.560> them<00:09:28.720> in<00:09:28.880> detail.<00:09:29.680> Um<00:09:30.240> we went through them in detail. Um we went through them in detail. Um we weren’t<00:09:30.720> planning<00:09:30.959> on<00:09:31.120> going<00:09:31.279> through<00:09:31.440> them weren’t planning on going through them weren’t planning on going through them in<00:09:31.839> detail<00:09:32.240> today.<00:09:32.640> We<00:09:32.880> really<00:09:33.040> wanted<00:09:33.279> to<00:09:33.760> um

9:33 in detail today. We really wanted to um in detail today. We really wanted to um hear<00:09:34.160> from<00:09:34.320> the<00:09:34.560> committee<00:09:34.880> and<00:09:35.200> just<00:09:35.680> um<00:09:36.000> you hear from the committee and just um you hear from the committee and just um you know<00:09:36.240> really<00:09:36.480> encourage<00:09:37.040> conversation know really encourage conversation know really encourage conversation within<00:09:37.839> the<00:09:38.000> committee<00:09:38.959> um<00:09:39.120> about<00:09:39.680> you<00:09:39.839> know within the committee um about you know within the committee um about you know these<00:09:40.320> these<00:09:40.640> options<00:09:41.040> about<00:09:41.200> the<00:09:41.440> roof these these options about the roof these these options about the roof recover<00:09:42.399> um<00:09:42.560> versus<00:09:42.880> roof<00:09:43.279> restoration.<00:09:44.560> Uh, recover um versus roof restoration. Uh, recover um versus roof restoration. Uh, and<00:09:45.279> so<00:09:45.440> that<00:09:45.680> that<00:09:46.000> was<00:09:46.160> really<00:09:46.320> the<00:09:46.480> end<00:09:46.880> um and so that that was really the end um and so that that was really the end um of<00:09:47.600> the<00:09:47.920> presentation,<00:09:48.560> Henry.<00:09:49.200> Um,<00:09:49.519> unless of the presentation, Henry. Um, unless of the presentation, Henry. Um, unless you<00:09:50.000> want<00:09:50.160> us<00:09:50.320> to<00:09:50.399> go<00:09:50.560> through<00:09:50.640> these<00:09:50.880> in you want us to go through these in you want us to go through these in detail<00:09:51.360> or<00:09:51.600> if<00:09:51.760> you'd<00:09:52.000> prefer<00:09:52.240> to<00:09:52.399> have detail or if you’d prefer to have detail or if you’d prefer to have committee<00:09:52.959> conversation<00:09:53.440> around<00:09:53.680> it. committee conversation around it. committee conversation around it. » Uh,<00:09:54.959> well,<00:09:55.279> it's<00:09:55.440> it's<00:09:55.680> a<00:09:55.920> great<00:09:56.080> segue » Uh, well, it’s it’s a great segue » Uh, well, it’s it’s a great segue because<00:09:57.040> we<00:09:57.600> I<00:09:58.240> um<00:09:58.959> sort<00:09:59.200> of<00:09:59.279> the<00:09:59.519> next<00:10:00.000> item<00:10:00.399> on because we I um sort of the next item on because we I um sort of the next item on here<00:10:00.959> to<00:10:02.240> to<00:10:02.720> talk<00:10:02.959> about<00:10:03.200> those.<00:10:04.000> I<00:10:04.080> I<00:10:04.320> don't here to to talk about those. I I don’t here to to talk about those. I I don’t know if<00:10:04.560> you<00:10:04.800> want<00:10:04.880> to<00:10:05.040> leave<00:10:05.360> these<00:10:05.680> up<00:10:06.000> while know if you want to leave these up while know if you want to leave these up while we<00:10:06.640> have<00:10:06.880> a<00:10:07.120> discussion,<00:10:07.760> but we have a discussion, but we have a discussion, but » I<00:10:08.800> did<00:10:09.120> invite<00:10:09.760> um<00:10:09.839> Mike<00:10:10.160> Velgi<00:10:10.640> to<00:10:10.880> this » I did invite um Mike Velgi to this » I did invite um Mike Velgi to this meeting. meeting. meeting. uh<00:10:13.120> he<00:10:13.440> was<00:10:13.760> I<00:10:14.079> believe<00:10:14.240> he<00:10:14.480> was<00:10:14.560> the<00:10:14.800> Mike<00:10:15.120> you uh he was I believe he was the Mike you uh he was I believe he was the Mike you were<00:10:15.360> the<00:10:15.519> one<00:10:15.600> who<00:10:15.839> brought<00:10:16.160> us<00:10:16.320> this<00:10:16.640> option were the one who brought us this option were the one who brought us this option and<00:10:17.920> so<00:10:18.160> I<00:10:18.480> thought<00:10:18.720> that<00:10:19.279> or<00:10:20.640> that<00:10:20.880> you<00:10:21.040> would

10:21 and so I thought that or that you would and so I thought that or that you would be<00:10:21.279> a<00:10:21.440> good<00:10:21.600> person<00:10:21.760> to<00:10:22.000> speak<00:10:22.160> to<00:10:22.320> some<00:10:22.480> of<00:10:22.560> the be a good person to speak to some of the be a good person to speak to some of the the<00:10:22.959> pros<00:10:23.200> and<00:10:23.360> cons<00:10:23.680> here<00:10:23.920> and<00:10:24.079> I<00:10:24.320> think<00:10:25.200> open the pros and cons here and I think open the pros and cons here and I think open this<00:10:25.760> up<00:10:25.920> to<00:10:27.279> Q&A<00:10:27.760> and<00:10:28.079> discussion<00:10:28.959> because this up to Q&A and discussion because this up to Q&A and discussion because this<00:10:29.519> is<00:10:29.680> really<00:10:29.920> the<00:10:30.160> biggest<00:10:31.360> uh<00:10:31.680> decision this is really the biggest uh decision this is really the biggest uh decision that<00:10:32.240> we<00:10:32.399> have<00:10:32.560> to<00:10:32.720> make<00:10:32.800> on<00:10:33.040> this<00:10:33.200> committee. that we have to make on this committee. that we have to make on this committee. » Uh<00:10:36.399> so<00:10:36.560> Mike,<00:10:36.880> would<00:10:37.040> you<00:10:37.120> like<00:10:37.279> to<00:10:37.519> introduce » Uh so Mike, would you like to introduce » Uh so Mike, would you like to introduce yourself? yourself? yourself? » Sure.<00:10:39.040> Um » Sure. Um » Sure. Um uh<00:10:41.680> I<00:10:42.079> own<00:10:42.480> Building<00:10:42.800> Enclosure<00:10:43.360> Associates. uh I own Building Enclosure Associates. uh I own Building Enclosure Associates. I’ve<00:10:44.240> been<00:10:44.320> in<00:10:44.640> business<00:10:44.880> for<00:10:45.120> about<00:10:45.440> 40 I’ve been in business for about 40 I’ve been in business for about 40 years.<00:10:46.480> We've<00:10:46.800> done<00:10:47.279> lots<00:10:47.680> of<00:10:47.920> roofing years. We’ve done lots of roofing years. We’ve done lots of roofing projects<00:10:49.519> uh<00:10:50.320> replacement<00:10:51.760> recover<00:10:52.959> as<00:10:53.120> well projects uh replacement recover as well projects uh replacement recover as well as<00:10:53.519> the<00:10:53.760> fluid<00:10:54.160> applied<00:10:54.640> restoration<00:10:55.360> on as the fluid applied restoration on as the fluid applied restoration on clients<00:10:56.640> such<00:10:56.800> as<00:10:56.959> Mana<00:10:58.000> Fizer.<00:10:58.800> So<00:10:59.440> we<00:10:59.680> have<00:10:59.760> a clients such as Mana Fizer. So we have a clients such as Mana Fizer. So we have a lot<00:11:00.000> of<00:11:00.160> experience<00:11:00.560> in<00:11:00.880> all<00:11:01.120> types<00:11:01.360> of lot of experience in all types of lot of experience in all types of different<00:11:01.839> types<00:11:02.000> of<00:11:02.160> roofing<00:11:02.560> systems.<00:11:03.200> Um different types of roofing systems. Um different types of roofing systems. Um one<00:11:04.640> of<00:11:04.720> the<00:11:04.880> things<00:11:05.040> that<00:11:05.279> I'm<00:11:05.519> just<00:11:05.680> going<00:11:05.839> to one of the things that I’m just going to one of the things that I’m just going to jump<00:11:06.160> back<00:11:06.399> to<00:11:06.560> the<00:11:06.720> estimate<00:11:07.120> for<00:11:07.360> a<00:11:07.519> second.

11:08 jump back to the estimate for a second. jump back to the estimate for a second. I<00:11:08.399> was<00:11:08.560> a<00:11:08.720> little<00:11:08.880> bit<00:11:09.040> surprised<00:11:09.360> that I was a little bit surprised that I was a little bit surprised that there’s<00:11:09.839> a<00:11:10.000> half<00:11:10.240> a<00:11:10.399> million<00:11:10.720> dollar there’s a half a million dollar there’s a half a million dollar difference<00:11:11.440> between<00:11:11.839> the<00:11:12.000> two<00:11:12.240> cost difference between the two cost difference between the two cost estimators. estimators. estimators. If<00:11:14.480> you<00:11:14.640> look<00:11:14.800> at<00:11:15.040> line<00:11:15.360> item<00:11:16.399> um<00:11:16.640> on<00:11:16.800> the If you look at line item um on the If you look at line item um on the alternate<00:11:17.519> the<00:11:17.680> fluid<00:11:17.920> applied<00:11:18.800> the<00:11:19.120> credit alternate the fluid applied the credit alternate the fluid applied the credit from<00:11:21.279> RLB<00:11:21.760> is<00:11:22.000> half<00:11:22.160> a<00:11:22.399> million<00:11:23.360> and<00:11:24.079> the<00:11:24.720> PMC from RLB is half a million and the PMC from RLB is half a million and the PMC is<00:11:26.000> $1.1<00:11:27.040> million.<00:11:27.839> And<00:11:29.040> I<00:11:29.200> I'm<00:11:29.519> a<00:11:29.680> little<00:11:29.839> bit is $1.1 million. And I I’m a little bit is $1.1 million. And I I’m a little bit surprised<00:11:30.480> at<00:11:30.720> that<00:11:31.279> large<00:11:31.839> difference.<00:11:32.720> Um, surprised at that large difference. Um, surprised at that large difference. Um, and<00:11:33.279> I'm,<00:11:33.760> you<00:11:33.839> know,<00:11:33.920> we<00:11:34.160> got<00:11:34.240> the<00:11:34.399> estimates and I’m, you know, we got the estimates and I’m, you know, we got the estimates and<00:11:34.959> everything<00:11:35.200> else<00:11:35.440> yesterday,<00:11:35.839> so<00:11:36.000> I and everything else yesterday, so I and everything else yesterday, so I haven’t<00:11:36.560> really<00:11:36.720> had<00:11:36.959> time<00:11:37.200> to<00:11:37.440> study<00:11:38.800> why haven’t really had time to study why haven’t really had time to study why there’s<00:11:39.760> such<00:11:39.920> a<00:11:40.320> a<00:11:40.560> significant<00:11:41.120> difference there’s such a a significant difference there’s such a a significant difference uh<00:11:41.920> in<00:11:42.160> those<00:11:42.320> two<00:11:42.560> estimates.<00:11:43.200> But,<00:11:43.600> uh,<00:11:43.839> I uh in those two estimates. But, uh, I uh in those two estimates. But, uh, I just<00:11:44.320> want<00:11:44.399> to<00:11:44.560> point<00:11:44.720> that<00:11:44.880> out<00:11:45.040> that<00:11:45.279> there's just want to point that out that there’s just want to point that out that there’s u<00:11:47.519> the<00:11:47.920> $18<00:11:48.880> a<00:11:49.040> square<00:11:49.360> foot<00:11:49.680> that<00:11:49.920> is<00:11:50.079> carried, u the $18 a square foot that is carried, u the $18 a square foot that is carried, I<00:11:50.720> believe,<00:11:50.959> by<00:11:51.279> PNMC<00:11:52.560> is<00:11:53.680> is<00:11:54.399> the<00:11:54.640> market

11:55 I believe, by PNMC is is the market I believe, by PNMC is is the market price<00:11:56.079> for<00:11:56.640> the<00:11:56.880> coding<00:11:57.279> system.<00:11:57.600> So,<00:11:57.839> I'm<00:11:58.000> not price for the coding system. So, I’m not price for the coding system. So, I’m not sure<00:11:58.560> why<00:11:58.880> there's<00:11:59.120> such<00:11:59.360> a<00:11:59.600> Do<00:11:59.760> you<00:11:59.839> know, sure why there’s such a Do you know, sure why there’s such a Do you know, Lena,<00:12:00.480> why<00:12:00.800> that<00:12:01.120> might<00:12:01.279> be?<00:12:01.839> That's<00:12:02.079> a<00:12:02.240> good Lena, why that might be? That’s a good Lena, why that might be? That’s a good question.<00:12:02.880> Um,<00:12:03.440> Mike,<00:12:03.839> I<00:12:04.000> don't<00:12:04.160> know question. Um, Mike, I don’t know question. Um, Mike, I don’t know specifically<00:12:05.360> um<00:12:05.519> on<00:12:05.760> their<00:12:06.079> numbers<00:12:06.560> why<00:12:07.680> um specifically um on their numbers why um specifically um on their numbers why um why<00:12:09.040> they<00:12:09.200> carried<00:12:09.600> what<00:12:09.760> they<00:12:09.920> did<00:12:10.079> for<00:12:10.639> um why they carried what they did for um why they carried what they did for um the<00:12:10.959> roof<00:12:11.200> restoration<00:12:11.760> and<00:12:12.079> the<00:12:12.240> difference the roof restoration and the difference the roof restoration and the difference um<00:12:12.959> between<00:12:13.200> that.<00:12:13.519> We<00:12:13.680> can<00:12:13.760> look<00:12:13.920> further um between that. We can look further um between that. We can look further into<00:12:14.560> that. into that. into that. » Okay.<00:12:15.839> All<00:12:15.920> right.<00:12:16.320> I<00:12:16.480> just<00:12:16.639> want<00:12:16.720> to<00:12:16.800> point » Okay. All right. I just want to point » Okay. All right. I just want to point that<00:12:17.120> out<00:12:17.279> in<00:12:17.519> case<00:12:17.680> anybody<00:12:18.160> else<00:12:19.040> didn't that out in case anybody else didn’t that out in case anybody else didn’t pick<00:12:19.519> that<00:12:19.680> up.<00:12:20.480> But<00:12:20.720> anyway,<00:12:21.120> moving pick that up. But anyway, moving pick that up. But anyway, moving forward.<00:12:22.240> Um<00:12:23.120> so,<00:12:24.320> you<00:12:24.480> know,<00:12:24.639> when<00:12:24.800> you<00:12:24.959> come forward. Um so, you know, when you come forward. Um so, you know, when you come to<00:12:25.680> there's<00:12:25.920> three<00:12:26.160> real<00:12:26.480> different<00:12:26.800> options. to there’s three real different options. to there’s three real different options. you’ve<00:12:27.680> got<00:12:27.839> a<00:12:28.160> complete<00:12:28.399> roof<00:12:28.720> replacement you’ve got a complete roof replacement you’ve got a complete roof replacement where<00:12:29.519> you<00:12:29.760> take<00:12:30.000> all<00:12:30.240> the<00:12:30.560> insulation<00:12:31.120> out, where you take all the insulation out, where you take all the insulation out, you<00:12:31.600> take<00:12:31.680> the<00:12:31.839> membrane<00:12:32.160> out<00:12:32.399> and<00:12:32.560> you<00:12:32.720> start you take the membrane out and you start you take the membrane out and you start from<00:12:33.200> scratch. from scratch. from scratch. Then<00:12:35.120> you<00:12:35.360> have<00:12:35.519> the<00:12:35.760> next<00:12:36.079> level<00:12:36.720> of<00:12:37.600> uh<00:12:38.079> work Then you have the next level of uh work Then you have the next level of uh work uh<00:12:39.120> and<00:12:39.360> I<00:12:39.680> consider<00:12:40.959> the<00:12:41.200> roof<00:12:41.600> recover<00:12:42.480> and

12:43 uh and I consider the roof recover and uh and I consider the roof recover and fluid<00:12:43.680> applied<00:12:44.800> um<00:12:45.040> you<00:12:45.279> know<00:12:45.680> pretty<00:12:45.920> much fluid applied um you know pretty much fluid applied um you know pretty much the<00:12:47.360> the<00:12:47.760> same<00:12:48.000> in<00:12:48.320> terms<00:12:48.560> of<00:12:49.200> um the the same in terms of um the the same in terms of um you<00:12:50.959> know<00:12:51.200> service<00:12:51.519> life.<00:12:51.839> Both<00:12:52.079> of<00:12:52.240> them<00:12:52.320> will you know service life. Both of them will you know service life. Both of them will come<00:12:52.639> with<00:12:52.800> a<00:12:52.959> 20-year<00:12:53.440> warranty. come with a 20-year warranty. come with a 20-year warranty. um<00:12:55.600> they're<00:12:56.240> less<00:12:57.120> uh<00:12:57.519> less<00:12:57.760> of<00:12:58.000> a<00:12:58.160> scope<00:12:58.480> of um they’re less uh less of a scope of um they’re less uh less of a scope of work<00:12:59.120> than<00:12:59.519> full<00:12:59.839> replacement work than full replacement work than full replacement and<00:13:02.160> some<00:13:02.560> there's<00:13:02.880> a<00:13:03.040> pros<00:13:03.279> and<00:13:03.519> cons<00:13:03.760> to<00:13:04.000> to and some there’s a pros and cons to to and some there’s a pros and cons to to both<00:13:04.880> and<00:13:05.519> if<00:13:05.680> you<00:13:05.839> go<00:13:05.920> to<00:13:06.079> the<00:13:06.240> next<00:13:06.399> slide<00:13:06.880> you both and if you go to the next slide you both and if you go to the next slide you know<00:13:07.279> everything's<00:13:07.839> over<00:13:08.079> there<00:13:08.800> but<00:13:09.120> I<00:13:09.360> think know everything’s over there but I think know everything’s over there but I think the<00:13:09.760> major<00:13:10.160> difference<00:13:11.440> between<00:13:12.000> a<00:13:12.720> roof the major difference between a roof the major difference between a roof recover<00:13:15.200> and<00:13:15.360> a<00:13:16.079> fluid<00:13:16.399> applied<00:13:16.800> replacement recover and a fluid applied replacement recover and a fluid applied replacement is<00:13:18.959> um<00:13:19.600> is<00:13:19.920> really<00:13:20.240> what<00:13:20.480> you're<00:13:20.720> getting<00:13:20.959> with is um is really what you’re getting with is um is really what you’re getting with a<00:13:21.279> fluid<00:13:21.680> applied<00:13:22.480> a<00:13:22.639> fluid<00:13:23.040> applied<00:13:23.519> system a fluid applied a fluid applied system a fluid applied a fluid applied system and<00:13:24.800> that<00:13:25.040> is<00:13:25.200> now<00:13:25.440> you're<00:13:25.760> getting<00:13:25.920> a and that is now you’re getting a and that is now you’re getting a complete<00:13:26.560> monolithic<00:13:27.440> system.<00:13:28.079> There's<00:13:28.320> no

13:28 complete monolithic system. There’s no complete monolithic system. There’s no seams.<00:13:30.079> Uh<00:13:30.480> everything<00:13:30.800> is<00:13:30.959> flashed.<00:13:31.839> Uh<00:13:32.720> when seams. Uh everything is flashed. Uh when seams. Uh everything is flashed. Uh when you<00:13:33.120> do<00:13:33.279> a<00:13:33.920> roof<00:13:34.240> recover,<00:13:34.800> you<00:13:35.040> still<00:13:35.279> have you do a roof recover, you still have you do a roof recover, you still have the<00:13:35.680> same<00:13:35.920> roofing<00:13:36.399> membrane<00:13:37.120> that<00:13:37.440> you<00:13:37.600> had the same roofing membrane that you had the same roofing membrane that you had with<00:13:38.000> the<00:13:38.160> roof<00:13:38.399> replacement.<00:13:38.959> So<00:13:39.279> a<00:13:39.680> a with the roof replacement. So a a with the roof replacement. So a a restoration<00:13:40.800> fluid<00:13:41.200> applied<00:13:41.600> restoration, restoration fluid applied restoration, restoration fluid applied restoration, you<00:13:43.040> don't<00:13:43.200> you<00:13:43.360> don't<00:13:43.519> have<00:13:43.600> any<00:13:43.760> seams<00:13:44.079> to you don’t you don’t have any seams to you don’t you don’t have any seams to worry<00:13:44.399> about.<00:13:45.519> In<00:13:45.839> addition,<00:13:47.279> uh<00:13:47.519> depending worry about. In addition, uh depending worry about. In addition, uh depending on<00:13:48.000> the<00:13:48.240> manufacturer<00:13:48.959> that<00:13:49.200> is<00:13:49.440> selected, on the manufacturer that is selected, on the manufacturer that is selected, they’ll<00:13:50.720> come<00:13:50.880> out<00:13:51.120> here.<00:13:52.000> they'll<00:13:52.320> come<00:13:52.399> out they’ll come out here. they’ll come out they’ll come out here. they’ll come out to<00:13:52.800> the<00:13:52.959> high<00:13:53.200> school<00:13:54.399> uh<00:13:54.560> every<00:13:54.880> year<00:13:55.120> and to the high school uh every year and to the high school uh every year and inspect<00:13:55.760> the<00:13:56.000> roof<00:13:56.320> and<00:13:56.639> do<00:13:56.959> repairs.<00:13:58.000> One<00:13:58.160> of inspect the roof and do repairs. One of inspect the roof and do repairs. One of the<00:13:58.399> problems<00:13:58.639> I<00:13:58.880> think<00:13:59.040> we're<00:13:59.279> running<00:13:59.519> into the problems I think we’re running into the problems I think we’re running into in<00:14:00.320> in<00:14:00.639> the<00:14:00.800> town<00:14:01.600> is<00:14:01.920> that,<00:14:02.639> you<00:14:02.880> know,<00:14:04.000> we're in in the town is that, you know, we’re in in the town is that, you know, we’re we’re<00:14:04.639> it's<00:14:04.959> almost<00:14:05.199> like<00:14:05.440> crisis we’re it’s almost like crisis we’re it’s almost like crisis management.<00:14:07.040> Uh<00:14:07.519> if<00:14:07.920> somebody<00:14:08.240> is management. Uh if somebody is management. Uh if somebody is maintaining<00:14:08.880> the<00:14:09.120> roofs<00:14:09.440> and<00:14:09.680> and<00:14:09.760> and<00:14:10.639> being maintaining the roofs and and and being maintaining the roofs and and and being diligent<00:14:11.360> about<00:14:11.680> taking<00:14:12.000> care<00:14:12.160> of<00:14:12.240> the<00:14:12.399> roofs diligent about taking care of the roofs diligent about taking care of the roofs over<00:14:12.880> the<00:14:13.040> years,<00:14:13.519> you<00:14:13.680> could<00:14:13.920> extend<00:14:14.160> the

14:14 over the years, you could extend the over the years, you could extend the service<00:14:14.720> life<00:14:14.959> if<00:14:15.120> you<00:14:15.279> know<00:14:15.440> what's<00:14:15.680> going service life if you know what’s going service life if you know what’s going on.<00:14:16.880> Um<00:14:18.160> they're<00:14:18.560> using<00:14:18.800> this<00:14:19.040> fluid<00:14:19.440> applied on. Um they’re using this fluid applied on. Um they’re using this fluid applied restoration<00:14:20.480> system<00:14:21.120> on<00:14:21.519> the<00:14:22.000> uh<00:14:22.240> rec<00:14:22.480> center restoration system on the uh rec center restoration system on the uh rec center right<00:14:23.040> now.<00:14:23.680> They've<00:14:24.000> done<00:14:24.160> it<00:14:24.320> on<00:14:24.399> the<00:14:24.639> police right now. They’ve done it on the police right now. They’ve done it on the police station.<00:14:25.839> They've<00:14:26.160> done<00:14:26.320> it<00:14:26.480> on<00:14:26.560> the<00:14:26.720> DPW station. They’ve done it on the DPW station. They’ve done it on the DPW building.<00:14:27.839> So<00:14:28.000> it's<00:14:28.240> not<00:14:28.399> new.<00:14:28.800> It's<00:14:29.040> been building. So it’s not new. It’s been building. So it’s not new. It’s been done<00:14:29.440> in<00:14:29.680> town<00:14:30.240> already<00:14:30.639> on<00:14:31.199> uh<00:14:31.360> three<00:14:31.600> or<00:14:31.760> four done in town already on uh three or four done in town already on uh three or four buildings.<00:14:32.880> They've<00:14:33.279> done<00:14:33.440> it<00:14:33.839> uh<00:14:34.000> they've buildings. They’ve done it uh they’ve buildings. They’ve done it uh they’ve used<00:14:34.560> this<00:14:34.800> system<00:14:35.120> on<00:14:35.440> many<00:14:35.680> many<00:14:36.000> schools<00:14:36.480> in used this system on many many schools in used this system on many many schools in the<00:14:36.800> in<00:14:37.120> the<00:14:37.839> in<00:14:38.079> the<00:14:38.240> area<00:14:38.399> in<00:14:38.639> Massachusetts. the in the in the area in Massachusetts. the in the in the area in Massachusetts. It’s<00:14:40.079> it's<00:14:40.800> uh<00:14:41.519> it's<00:14:41.760> a<00:14:42.000> reliable<00:14:42.399> system.<00:14:42.959> You It’s it’s uh it’s a reliable system. You It’s it’s uh it’s a reliable system. You get<00:14:43.360> 20<00:14:43.680> years.<00:14:44.560> And<00:14:45.040> the<00:14:45.279> other<00:14:45.519> thing<00:14:45.600> that get 20 years. And the other thing that get 20 years. And the other thing that that<00:14:46.160> is<00:14:46.320> also<00:14:46.560> advantageous<00:14:47.360> is<00:14:47.680> that<00:14:48.000> the that is also advantageous is that the that is also advantageous is that the manufacturer manufacturer manufacturer of<00:14:50.079> the<00:14:50.320> system<00:14:50.639> will<00:14:50.959> actually<00:14:51.199> be<00:14:51.360> on<00:14:51.600> site of the system will actually be on site of the system will actually be on site while<00:14:52.720> the<00:14:52.959> work's<00:14:53.279> going<00:14:53.440> on.<00:14:53.760> So<00:14:53.920> they<00:14:54.240> own while the work’s going on. So they own while the work’s going on. So they own it.<00:14:54.639> They<00:14:54.959> own<00:14:55.199> the<00:14:55.440> system.<00:14:55.920> It's<00:14:56.240> not it. They own the system. It’s not it. They own the system. It’s not there’ll<00:14:56.800> be<00:14:56.880> no<00:14:57.040> fingerpointing<00:14:57.760> that<00:14:58.000> the there’ll be no fingerpointing that the there’ll be no fingerpointing that the contractor<00:14:58.639> is<00:14:58.959> responsible,<00:14:59.600> the<00:14:59.839> designers

15:00 contractor is responsible, the designers contractor is responsible, the designers responsible. responsible. responsible. Everything<00:15:03.279> is<00:15:03.600> going<00:15:03.680> to<00:15:03.839> end<00:15:04.079> up<00:15:04.399> at<00:15:04.639> the Everything is going to end up at the Everything is going to end up at the manufacturer<00:15:05.920> uh<00:15:06.079> level.<00:15:07.199> Um<00:15:07.920> however<00:15:09.360> uh manufacturer uh level. Um however uh manufacturer uh level. Um however uh there’s<00:15:10.079> a<00:15:10.320> lot<00:15:10.480> of<00:15:10.639> fluid<00:15:11.040> applied<00:15:12.000> coding there’s a lot of fluid applied coding there’s a lot of fluid applied coding systems<00:15:12.720> on<00:15:12.959> the<00:15:13.120> market<00:15:14.079> and<00:15:14.720> I<00:15:15.120> would<00:15:15.440> highly systems on the market and I would highly systems on the market and I would highly recommend<00:15:16.560> that<00:15:16.959> we<00:15:17.279> go<00:15:17.839> not<00:15:18.160> naming<00:15:19.199> uh<00:15:19.360> you recommend that we go not naming uh you recommend that we go not naming uh you know<00:15:19.600> you<00:15:19.760> could<00:15:19.920> have<00:15:20.000> a<00:15:20.160> basis<00:15:20.480> of<00:15:20.720> design know you could have a basis of design know you could have a basis of design but<00:15:21.279> this<00:15:21.440> should<00:15:21.600> be<00:15:21.760> a<00:15:22.000> performancebased but this should be a performancebased but this should be a performancebased system<00:15:24.079> because<00:15:24.560> the<00:15:25.120> uh<00:15:25.279> there's<00:15:25.519> there's<00:15:25.839> so system because the uh there’s there’s so system because the uh there’s there’s so many<00:15:26.240> variations<00:15:26.720> in<00:15:26.959> the<00:15:27.120> fluid<00:15:27.440> applied many variations in the fluid applied many variations in the fluid applied systems<00:15:28.160> that<00:15:28.399> you<00:15:28.560> could<00:15:28.720> use<00:15:29.519> and<00:15:29.920> we<00:15:30.240> don't systems that you could use and we don’t systems that you could use and we don’t want<00:15:30.480> to<00:15:30.639> allow<00:15:31.040> a<00:15:31.920> lower<00:15:32.320> tier<00:15:33.120> or<00:15:33.519> a<00:15:34.000> inferior want to allow a lower tier or a inferior want to allow a lower tier or a inferior product<00:15:35.680> to<00:15:35.920> be<00:15:36.160> installed.<00:15:36.560> called<00:15:36.800> on<00:15:36.959> this product to be installed. called on this product to be installed. called on this on<00:15:38.240> the<00:15:38.320> on<00:15:38.560> the<00:15:38.720> high<00:15:38.959> school<00:15:39.199> project.<00:15:39.839> So on the on the high school project. So on the on the high school project. So it’s<00:15:40.560> very<00:15:40.880> important<00:15:41.040> to<00:15:41.279> have<00:15:41.360> a it’s very important to have a it’s very important to have a performance-based<00:15:42.320> system<00:15:42.800> and<00:15:43.040> and<00:15:44.000> uh<00:15:44.240> you performance-based system and and uh you performance-based system and and uh you know<00:15:44.880> if<00:15:45.120> you're<00:15:45.360> going<00:15:45.440> to<00:15:45.600> allow<00:15:46.560> or<00:15:46.880> equal

15:47 know if you’re going to allow or equal know if you’re going to allow or equal it<00:15:47.600> has<00:15:47.839> to<00:15:48.000> meet<00:15:48.240> the<00:15:48.480> performance it has to meet the performance it has to meet the performance requirements<00:15:49.519> in<00:15:49.839> terms<00:15:50.000> of<00:15:50.320> thickness, requirements in terms of thickness, requirements in terms of thickness, tensile<00:15:52.079> strength,<00:15:52.560> compressive<00:15:53.120> strength. tensile strength, compressive strength. tensile strength, compressive strength. Uh<00:15:53.920> there's<00:15:54.160> a<00:15:54.320> whole<00:15:54.480> bunch<00:15:54.639> of<00:15:54.800> criteria<00:15:56.160> uh Uh there’s a whole bunch of criteria uh Uh there’s a whole bunch of criteria uh that<00:15:56.399> we'd<00:15:56.639> be<00:15:56.800> happy<00:15:56.959> to<00:15:57.279> help<00:15:57.600> provide<00:15:58.720> that that we’d be happy to help provide that that we’d be happy to help provide that that<00:15:59.600> uh<00:15:59.839> will<00:16:00.320> ensure<00:16:01.360> that<00:16:02.000> you<00:16:02.160> know<00:16:02.240> the that uh will ensure that you know the that uh will ensure that you know the system<00:16:02.720> that<00:16:02.959> you're<00:16:03.120> actually<00:16:03.440> putting<00:16:03.680> on system that you’re actually putting on system that you’re actually putting on uh<00:16:04.720> gives<00:16:04.959> you<00:16:05.120> the<00:16:05.440> 20<00:16:05.680> year<00:16:06.160> uh<00:16:06.320> service<00:16:06.639> life uh gives you the 20 year uh service life uh gives you the 20 year uh service life that<00:16:07.120> that<00:16:07.600> uh<00:16:07.759> is<00:16:08.000> expected<00:16:08.480> here. that that uh is expected here. that that uh is expected here. U<00:16:11.600> if<00:16:12.160> the<00:16:12.720> the<00:16:13.199> cost<00:16:13.680> is<00:16:13.920> only<00:16:14.399> $500,000 U if the the cost is only $500,000 U if the the cost is only $500,000 then<00:16:16.399> I<00:16:16.560> would<00:16:16.720> lean<00:16:17.040> towards<00:16:17.440> a<00:16:17.680> recover then I would lean towards a recover then I would lean towards a recover option.<00:16:19.120> If<00:16:19.360> the<00:16:19.600> cost<00:16:20.000> savings<00:16:20.639> is<00:16:20.959> over<00:16:21.199> a option. If the cost savings is over a option. If the cost savings is over a million<00:16:21.680> dollars,<00:16:22.639> then<00:16:22.880> it's<00:16:23.199> well<00:16:23.519> worth million dollars, then it’s well worth million dollars, then it’s well worth considering<00:16:24.320> the<00:16:24.480> fluid<00:16:24.800> applied<00:16:25.279> and<00:16:25.440> and considering the fluid applied and and considering the fluid applied and and save<00:16:26.079> the<00:16:26.399> million<00:16:26.639> dollars<00:16:26.880> in<00:16:27.199> costs. save the million dollars in costs. save the million dollars in costs. And<00:16:29.360> I'm<00:16:30.000> open<00:16:30.320> to<00:16:30.720> uh<00:16:30.880> any<00:16:31.199> questions<00:16:31.920> uh<00:16:32.000> if And I’m open to uh any questions uh if And I’m open to uh any questions uh if anybody<00:16:32.720> has<00:16:32.959> any<00:16:33.199> questions<00:16:33.440> or<00:16:33.680> comments.

16:35 anybody has any questions or comments. anybody has any questions or comments. » I<00:16:35.440> just<00:16:35.600> want<00:16:35.680> to<00:16:35.759> jump<00:16:35.920> in<00:16:36.160> really<00:16:36.320> quick. » I just want to jump in really quick. » I just want to jump in really quick. This<00:16:36.720> is<00:16:36.800> Brian<00:16:37.040> Den<00:16:37.519> from<00:16:37.759> Left<00:16:38.000> Field<00:16:38.240> and<00:16:38.639> um This is Brian Den from Left Field and um This is Brian Den from Left Field and um first<00:16:39.360> off<00:16:39.600> say<00:16:39.839> we've<00:16:40.480> we<00:16:40.800> have<00:16:41.040> worked<00:16:41.360> with first off say we’ve we have worked with first off say we’ve we have worked with uh<00:16:42.399> Mike<00:16:42.720> and<00:16:42.959> Mike's<00:16:43.360> firm<00:16:43.759> BEA<00:16:44.560> for<00:16:44.880> years.<00:16:45.360> I uh Mike and Mike’s firm BEA for years. I uh Mike and Mike’s firm BEA for years. I always<00:16:46.000> say<00:16:46.160> they're<00:16:46.880> they're<00:16:47.279> probably always say they’re they’re probably always say they’re they’re probably first<00:16:47.839> on<00:16:48.079> my<00:16:48.240> list<00:16:48.399> of<00:16:48.800> phone<00:16:49.040> of<00:16:49.279> friends.<00:16:49.600> If first on my list of phone of friends. If first on my list of phone of friends. If we<00:16:49.920> have<00:16:50.079> a<00:16:50.240> question<00:16:50.560> about<00:16:50.800> a,<00:16:51.279> you<00:16:51.440> know, we have a question about a, you know, we have a question about a, you know, building<00:16:52.240> facade,<00:16:52.639> a<00:16:52.880> roof,<00:16:53.440> I<00:16:53.680> very<00:16:53.920> much building facade, a roof, I very much building facade, a roof, I very much appreciate<00:16:54.480> the<00:16:54.639> input,<00:16:55.040> Mike.<00:16:55.360> And<00:16:55.759> when<00:16:56.079> we appreciate the input, Mike. And when we appreciate the input, Mike. And when we do<00:16:56.480> get<00:16:56.880> past<00:16:57.120> bidding<00:16:57.759> into<00:16:58.160> submitts<00:16:58.800> and do get past bidding into submitts and do get past bidding into submitts and looking<00:16:59.279> at<00:16:59.519> potential<00:16:59.920> equals,<00:17:00.480> we<00:17:00.639> would looking at potential equals, we would looking at potential equals, we would love<00:17:01.440> to<00:17:01.680> involve<00:17:02.079> you<00:17:02.320> in<00:17:02.480> that<00:17:02.720> process<00:17:03.199> just love to involve you in that process just love to involve you in that process just to<00:17:03.600> make<00:17:03.759> sure<00:17:03.920> that<00:17:04.400> um<00:17:05.039> as<00:17:05.280> an<00:17:05.520> extra<00:17:05.839> set<00:17:06.000> of to make sure that um as an extra set of to make sure that um as an extra set of eyes<00:17:06.480> that<00:17:06.959> um<00:17:07.120> if<00:17:07.439> some<00:17:07.760> equal<00:17:08.240> product<00:17:08.640> is eyes that um if some equal product is eyes that um if some equal product is proposed<00:17:10.160> um<00:17:10.799> we'd<00:17:11.199> like<00:17:11.360> your<00:17:11.600> assistance proposed um we’d like your assistance proposed um we’d like your assistance with<00:17:12.480> uh<00:17:12.640> making<00:17:12.880> sure<00:17:13.039> it<00:17:13.280> is<00:17:13.439> in<00:17:13.600> fact<00:17:13.679> an with uh making sure it is in fact an with uh making sure it is in fact an equal<00:17:14.240> product. equal product. equal product. » Happy<00:17:15.520> to<00:17:15.679> help.<00:17:16.240> I<00:17:16.559> just<00:17:16.720> want<00:17:16.880> to<00:17:17.199> sort<00:17:17.439> of<00:17:18.079> um » Happy to help. I just want to sort of um » Happy to help. I just want to sort of um make<00:17:18.640> sure<00:17:18.799> that<00:17:19.120> we<00:17:19.360> don't<00:17:19.679> end<00:17:19.919> up<00:17:20.079> in<00:17:20.240> a

17:20 make sure that we don’t end up in a make sure that we don’t end up in a situation<00:17:20.799> that<00:17:21.120> we're<00:17:21.839> fighting<00:17:22.160> a situation that we’re fighting a situation that we’re fighting a manufacturer<00:17:23.280> and<00:17:23.520> it<00:17:23.760> becomes<00:17:24.079> a<00:17:24.400> legal manufacturer and it becomes a legal manufacturer and it becomes a legal issue.<00:17:25.600> So,<00:17:26.720> uh<00:17:27.039> and<00:17:27.199> and<00:17:27.520> there<00:17:27.679> are<00:17:27.760> ways<00:17:28.160> to issue. So, uh and and there are ways to issue. So, uh and and there are ways to to<00:17:28.880> do<00:17:29.039> that<00:17:29.440> to<00:17:29.679> make<00:17:29.919> sure<00:17:30.000> that<00:17:30.240> the<00:17:30.559> spec<00:17:30.880> is to do that to make sure that the spec is to do that to make sure that the spec is tight<00:17:32.240> in<00:17:32.480> terms<00:17:32.640> of<00:17:32.880> what<00:17:33.120> the<00:17:33.280> expectation tight in terms of what the expectation tight in terms of what the expectation is<00:17:34.240> so<00:17:34.480> that<00:17:34.640> we<00:17:34.880> don't<00:17:35.039> let<00:17:35.280> anybody<00:17:35.760> with<00:17:36.000> a is so that we don’t let anybody with a is so that we don’t let anybody with a can<00:17:36.799> of<00:17:36.960> paint<00:17:37.280> out<00:17:37.520> there<00:17:37.760> saying,<00:17:38.000> "Hey,<00:17:38.320> I'm can of paint out there saying, “Hey, I’m can of paint out there saying, “Hey, I’m equal.<00:17:38.960> I'm<00:17:39.200> going<00:17:39.280> to,<00:17:39.520> you<00:17:39.679> know,<00:17:40.080> I'm<00:17:40.240> going equal. I’m going to, you know, I’m going equal. I’m going to, you know, I’m going to<00:17:40.480> put<00:17:40.559> it<00:17:40.720> down<00:17:40.880> on<00:17:41.039> your<00:17:41.200> roof<00:17:41.360> and<00:17:41.600> give<00:17:41.679> you to put it down on your roof and give you to put it down on your roof and give you a<00:17:41.919> 20."<00:17:42.480> I<00:17:42.799> want<00:17:42.960> we<00:17:43.200> want<00:17:43.440> financial a 20.” I want we want financial a 20.” I want we want financial stability<00:17:44.880> from<00:17:45.200> the<00:17:45.520> manufacturer.<00:17:46.559> We<00:17:46.880> want stability from the manufacturer. We want stability from the manufacturer. We want a<00:17:47.919> you<00:17:48.080> know<00:17:48.400> superior<00:17:49.039> product<00:17:49.679> uh<00:17:49.840> and<00:17:50.080> and a you know superior product uh and and a you know superior product uh and and not<00:17:51.280> just<00:17:51.679> you<00:17:51.840> know<00:17:52.000> somebody<00:17:52.320> who's<00:17:52.559> going not just you know somebody who’s going not just you know somebody who’s going to<00:17:52.799> sell<00:17:52.960> us<00:17:53.520> a<00:17:53.840> product<00:17:54.080> that<00:17:54.559> uh<00:17:54.720> they<00:17:55.039> think to sell us a product that uh they think to sell us a product that uh they think is<00:17:55.440> going<00:17:55.520> to<00:17:55.600> work<00:17:55.760> for<00:17:56.000> us. is going to work for us. is going to work for us. » And<00:17:57.919> just<00:17:58.080> to<00:17:58.320> clarify<00:17:58.799> what<00:17:59.039> we're<00:17:59.360> we've<00:18:00.000> um » And just to clarify what we’re we’ve um » And just to clarify what we’re we’ve um been<00:18:00.559> up<00:18:00.720> to<00:18:00.880> that<00:18:01.039> we<00:18:01.200> totally<00:18:01.840> agree<00:18:02.400> and<00:18:03.039> we been up to that we totally agree and we been up to that we totally agree and we are<00:18:04.240> putting<00:18:04.559> a<00:18:04.880> performance<00:18:05.840> specification

18:06 are putting a performance specification are putting a performance specification together.<00:18:07.440> basically<00:18:08.720> um<00:18:09.840> the<00:18:10.240> we're<00:18:10.559> not together. basically um the we’re not together. basically um the we’re not listing<00:18:11.039> any<00:18:11.280> manufacturers.<00:18:12.160> is<00:18:12.400> purely listing any manufacturers. is purely listing any manufacturers. is purely performance<00:18:13.280> and<00:18:13.520> it's<00:18:13.760> based<00:18:14.000> on<00:18:14.320> working performance and it’s based on working performance and it’s based on working directly<00:18:15.280> with<00:18:16.160> TMCO<00:18:16.880> and<00:18:17.200> directly<00:18:17.520> with directly with TMCO and directly with directly with TMCO and directly with Garland<00:18:19.039> um<00:18:19.360> those<00:18:19.760> representatives<00:18:20.320> that<00:18:20.480> I Garland um those representatives that I Garland um those representatives that I know<00:18:21.039> you<00:18:21.280> know<00:18:21.919> um<00:18:22.160> Mike<00:18:22.559> and<00:18:22.960> so<00:18:24.320> they're<00:18:25.039> you know you know um Mike and so they’re you know you know um Mike and so they’re you know<00:18:25.360> literally<00:18:25.840> reviewing<00:18:26.240> our<00:18:26.480> documents know literally reviewing our documents know literally reviewing our documents because<00:18:27.200> they're<00:18:27.520> they're<00:18:27.840> technically<00:18:28.400> like because they’re they’re technically like because they’re they’re technically like um<00:18:29.360> Garland's<00:18:29.840> a<00:18:30.000> polyurea<00:18:30.960> tose um Garland’s a polyurea tose um Garland’s a polyurea tose polyurethane<00:18:32.320> so<00:18:32.559> we're<00:18:32.880> we're<00:18:33.200> making<00:18:33.440> it polyurethane so we’re we’re making it polyurethane so we’re we’re making it sort<00:18:33.919> an<00:18:34.080> either<00:18:34.400> or<00:18:34.720> like<00:18:35.039> a<00:18:35.280> polyora<00:18:35.919> can<00:18:36.080> be sort an either or like a polyora can be sort an either or like a polyora can be provided<00:18:37.039> or<00:18:37.280> a<00:18:37.440> polyurethane<00:18:38.160> system<00:18:38.480> but provided or a polyurethane system but provided or a polyurethane system but they<00:18:38.880> have<00:18:38.960> to<00:18:39.120> meet<00:18:39.360> those<00:18:39.600> performance they have to meet those performance they have to meet those performance criteria<00:18:41.039> and<00:18:41.200> we're<00:18:41.520> vetting<00:18:42.000> that<00:18:42.480> uh criteria and we’re vetting that uh criteria and we’re vetting that uh currently<00:18:43.440> to<00:18:43.679> make<00:18:43.840> sure<00:18:44.080> you<00:18:44.240> know<00:18:44.320> in<00:18:44.480> the currently to make sure you know in the currently to make sure you know in the final<00:18:44.960> hours<00:18:45.280> here<00:18:45.520> that<00:18:45.760> we're<00:18:46.480> getting<00:18:46.720> it final hours here that we’re getting it final hours here that we’re getting it right<00:18:47.679> um<00:18:48.000> with<00:18:48.240> those<00:18:48.559> two<00:18:48.799> manufacturers. right um with those two manufacturers. right um with those two manufacturers. Um<00:18:50.559> and<00:18:50.799> that<00:18:51.039> being<00:18:51.280> said<00:18:51.520> like<00:18:51.760> if<00:18:52.000> you<00:18:52.640> you

18:52 Um and that being said like if you you Um and that being said like if you you know<00:18:52.880> we<00:18:53.120> could<00:18:53.280> if<00:18:53.760> whether<00:18:54.000> or<00:18:54.080> not<00:18:54.240> we<00:18:54.400> have know we could if whether or not we have know we could if whether or not we have time<00:18:54.720> to<00:18:54.880> do<00:18:54.960> it<00:18:55.120> before<00:18:55.440> bidding<00:18:55.840> it's time to do it before bidding it’s time to do it before bidding it’s something<00:18:56.320> that's<00:18:57.120> um<00:18:57.840> easily<00:18:59.280> uh<00:18:59.520> adjusted something that’s um easily uh adjusted something that’s um easily uh adjusted via<00:19:00.400> addendum<00:19:00.960> if<00:19:01.360> we<00:19:01.600> wanted<00:19:01.840> to<00:19:02.000> add<00:19:02.320> even via addendum if we wanted to add even via addendum if we wanted to add even more<00:19:02.799> stringent<00:19:03.280> requirements.<00:19:04.559> But<00:19:04.720> just<00:19:04.880> to more stringent requirements. But just to more stringent requirements. But just to be<00:19:05.200> clear<00:19:05.360> that<00:19:05.600> we<00:19:05.840> are<00:19:06.000> working<00:19:06.640> the<00:19:06.960> basis be clear that we are working the basis be clear that we are working the basis of<00:19:07.600> our<00:19:07.840> spec<00:19:08.640> is<00:19:09.200> directly<00:19:09.760> with<00:19:10.160> TMCO<00:19:10.720> and of our spec is directly with TMCO and of our spec is directly with TMCO and Garland<00:19:11.280> and<00:19:11.520> it's<00:19:11.679> a<00:19:11.919> performance<00:19:12.400> spec. Garland and it’s a performance spec. Garland and it’s a performance spec. » Well,<00:19:13.840> that's<00:19:14.080> good<00:19:14.240> to<00:19:14.400> hear.<00:19:14.799> I'd<00:19:15.039> be<00:19:15.200> happy » Well, that’s good to hear. I’d be happy » Well, that’s good to hear. I’d be happy to<00:19:15.520> take<00:19:15.679> a<00:19:15.840> look<00:19:15.919> at<00:19:16.000> your<00:19:16.160> spec<00:19:16.480> before<00:19:16.720> it to take a look at your spec before it to take a look at your spec before it goes<00:19:17.120> out<00:19:17.280> on<00:19:17.440> the<00:19:17.520> street<00:19:18.080> to<00:19:18.559> give<00:19:18.720> you<00:19:18.880> my goes out on the street to give you my goes out on the street to give you my input.<00:19:19.600> Um,<00:19:20.080> so<00:19:20.640> let<00:19:20.799> me<00:19:20.960> know<00:19:21.039> if<00:19:21.200> that's<00:19:21.679> uh input. Um, so let me know if that’s uh input. Um, so let me know if that’s uh if<00:19:22.240> you<00:19:22.320> want<00:19:22.480> me<00:19:22.559> to<00:19:22.720> help<00:19:22.960> out<00:19:23.200> there. if you want me to help out there. if you want me to help out there. » Thanks. » Thanks. » Thanks. » So<00:19:26.320> I<00:19:26.880> just<00:19:27.120> two<00:19:27.280> things<00:19:27.440> that<00:19:27.600> I<00:19:27.760> like<00:19:27.840> to<00:19:28.000> add » So I just two things that I like to add » So I just two things that I like to add on<00:19:28.400> top<00:19:28.480> of<00:19:28.640> Mike's<00:19:29.120> comments.<00:19:29.760> Um,<00:19:30.559> the<00:19:30.880> first on top of Mike’s comments. Um, the first on top of Mike’s comments. Um, the first thing<00:19:31.200> is<00:19:32.480> when<00:19:32.799> we<00:19:33.120> were<00:19:33.360> designing<00:19:33.760> this,<00:19:34.240> I thing is when we were designing this, I thing is when we were designing this, I did<00:19:34.720> get<00:19:34.799> a<00:19:34.960> spam<00:19:35.280> email,<00:19:36.000> unsolicited<00:19:36.720> email did get a spam email, unsolicited email did get a spam email, unsolicited email I<00:19:37.120> should<00:19:37.280> call<00:19:37.440> it,<00:19:37.760> and<00:19:38.000> it<00:19:38.160> was<00:19:38.240> for<00:19:38.400> another

19:38 I should call it, and it was for another I should call it, and it was for another roofing<00:19:39.360> recover<00:19:40.240> restoration<00:19:40.799> product,<00:19:41.360> and roofing recover restoration product, and roofing recover restoration product, and I<00:19:41.679> forwarded<00:19:42.000> on<00:19:42.160> to<00:19:42.240> Leftfield<00:19:42.720> and<00:19:42.799> RDA,<00:19:43.280> and I forwarded on to Leftfield and RDA, and I forwarded on to Leftfield and RDA, and they<00:19:43.760> researched<00:19:44.240> it<00:19:44.640> and<00:19:45.200> identified<00:19:45.600> that they researched it and identified that they researched it and identified that they<00:19:46.000> were<00:19:46.240> not<00:19:46.480> in<00:19:46.720> the<00:19:46.880> same<00:19:47.280> quality<00:19:48.160> of they were not in the same quality of they were not in the same quality of what<00:19:48.640> TMCco<00:19:49.280> and<00:19:49.520> or<00:19:49.760> TMCO<00:19:50.320> and<00:19:50.640> Garland<00:19:51.200> are. what TMCco and or TMCO and Garland are. what TMCco and or TMCO and Garland are. So,<00:19:52.080> uh,<00:19:52.480> to<00:19:52.720> Mike's<00:19:52.960> point,<00:19:53.200> there<00:19:53.360> are<00:19:53.520> other So, uh, to Mike’s point, there are other So, uh, to Mike’s point, there are other products<00:19:54.080> out<00:19:54.240> there<00:19:54.320> that<00:19:54.480> we<00:19:54.720> want<00:19:54.799> to<00:19:54.880> stay products out there that we want to stay products out there that we want to stay away<00:19:55.200> from.<00:19:55.760> Um,<00:19:56.080> so<00:19:56.320> I<00:19:56.480> appreciate<00:19:56.880> that.<00:19:57.520> Um away from. Um, so I appreciate that. Um away from. Um, so I appreciate that. Um the<00:19:58.640> other<00:19:58.960> the<00:19:59.280> other<00:19:59.440> comment<00:19:59.679> or<00:19:59.919> the<00:20:00.000> other the other the other comment or the other the other the other comment or the other thought<00:20:00.320> I<00:20:00.559> had<00:20:00.720> and<00:20:00.880> I'm<00:20:01.039> not<00:20:01.120> a<00:20:01.280> roofing thought I had and I’m not a roofing thought I had and I’m not a roofing expert<00:20:01.919> by<00:20:02.080> any<00:20:02.320> means.<00:20:02.880> Uh<00:20:03.200> I'm<00:20:03.440> only<00:20:03.679> told<00:20:04.000> is expert by any means. Uh I’m only told is expert by any means. Uh I’m only told is what<00:20:04.480> I<00:20:04.720> what<00:20:04.960> I'm<00:20:05.120> told.<00:20:05.360> I<00:20:05.440> only<00:20:05.679> know<00:20:05.760> what what I what I’m told. I only know what what I what I’m told. I only know what I’m<00:20:06.080> told.<00:20:06.960> But<00:20:07.039> the<00:20:07.280> majority<00:20:07.520> of<00:20:07.760> my<00:20:08.160> 13 I’m told. But the majority of my 13 I’m told. But the majority of my 13 years<00:20:08.720> in<00:20:08.960> school<00:20:09.200> of<00:20:09.360> B<00:20:09.600> business<00:20:10.480> and years in school of B business and years in school of B business and facilities.<00:20:11.760> When<00:20:12.000> a<00:20:12.160> when<00:20:12.400> a<00:20:12.559> roof<00:20:12.799> leak facilities. When a when a roof leak facilities. When a when a roof leak happens,<00:20:13.600> it<00:20:13.840> typically<00:20:14.160> is<00:20:14.400> around<00:20:14.640> a<00:20:14.880> a happens, it typically is around a a happens, it typically is around a a seam.<00:20:15.919> Seam<00:20:16.240> is<00:20:16.480> pulled<00:20:16.799> apart.<00:20:17.200> Seam<00:20:17.440> has seam. Seam is pulled apart. Seam has seam. Seam is pulled apart. Seam has failed.<00:20:18.480> Um<00:20:18.960> something<00:20:19.280> went<00:20:19.440> on<00:20:19.600> with<00:20:19.679> the failed. Um something went on with the failed. Um something went on with the seam.<00:20:20.480> And<00:20:20.720> that's<00:20:20.960> why seam. And that’s why seam. And that’s why I<00:20:22.880> I<00:20:23.200> kind<00:20:23.440> of<00:20:23.520> like<00:20:24.000> the<00:20:24.240> idea<00:20:24.400> that<00:20:24.640> we're

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21:12 clock. Meaning in 20 25 years from now, clock. Meaning in 20 25 years from now, would<00:21:12.880> we<00:21:13.120> be<00:21:13.280> eligible<00:21:13.679> if<00:21:13.919> we<00:21:14.080> needed<00:21:14.320> a<00:21:14.480> new would we be eligible if we needed a new would we be eligible if we needed a new roof<00:21:14.799> at<00:21:14.960> that<00:21:15.120> time<00:21:15.280> for<00:21:15.520> MSBA<00:21:16.159> to<00:21:16.320> come<00:21:16.400> in roof at that time for MSBA to come in roof at that time for MSBA to come in and<00:21:16.880> assist<00:21:17.200> us<00:21:17.520> from<00:21:17.760> a<00:21:17.919> funding<00:21:18.320> standpoint and assist us from a funding standpoint and assist us from a funding standpoint to<00:21:19.120> do<00:21:19.280> a<00:21:19.440> new<00:21:19.600> roof? to do a new roof? to do a new roof? » Does<00:21:21.760> that<00:21:22.080> does<00:21:22.240> that<00:21:22.480> my<00:21:22.720> question<00:21:22.960> make » Does that does that my question make » Does that does that my question make sense? sense? sense? » Yes, » Yes, » Yes, » I<00:21:25.360> think<00:21:26.080> it<00:21:26.320> does.<00:21:26.640> Let<00:21:26.799> me<00:21:26.880> sort<00:21:27.039> of<00:21:27.280> just » I think it does. Let me sort of just » I think it does. Let me sort of just rephrase<00:21:28.000> it,<00:21:28.240> Mike,<00:21:28.480> or<00:21:28.720> say<00:21:28.880> it<00:21:29.039> in<00:21:29.200> a<00:21:29.360> in<00:21:29.520> a rephrase it, Mike, or say it in a in a rephrase it, Mike, or say it in a in a in<00:21:29.760> a<00:21:29.919> way<00:21:30.000> that<00:21:30.159> makes<00:21:30.320> sure<00:21:30.480> I<00:21:30.640> understand in a way that makes sure I understand in a way that makes sure I understand it.<00:21:31.520> If<00:21:31.840> we<00:21:32.000> were<00:21:32.159> to<00:21:32.320> proceed<00:21:32.559> with<00:21:32.720> one<00:21:32.960> of it. If we were to proceed with one of it. If we were to proceed with one of these<00:21:33.200> two<00:21:33.360> options<00:21:33.679> on<00:21:33.840> the<00:21:34.000> screen<00:21:34.799> and<00:21:35.039> at these two options on the screen and at these two options on the screen and at some<00:21:35.440> point<00:21:35.679> you're<00:21:36.320> outside<00:21:36.799> of<00:21:36.960> the<00:21:37.120> window some point you’re outside of the window some point you’re outside of the window MSBA<00:21:38.480> would<00:21:38.799> consider<00:21:39.200> you.<00:21:39.520> Would<00:21:39.679> MSBA MSBA would consider you. Would MSBA MSBA would consider you. Would MSBA consider<00:21:41.360> a<00:21:41.600> project<00:21:41.840> to<00:21:42.159> redo<00:21:42.559> this<00:21:43.440> project consider a project to redo this project consider a project to redo this project 25<00:21:44.559> years<00:21:44.799> down<00:21:44.960> the<00:21:45.120> line?<00:21:45.280> Is<00:21:45.520> that 25 years down the line? Is that 25 years down the line? Is that » Yeah,<00:21:47.039> that's » Yeah, that’s » Yeah, that’s » I<00:21:48.000> know<00:21:48.159> no<00:21:48.400> reason<00:21:48.559> to<00:21:48.799> think<00:21:48.880> that<00:21:49.120> they » I know no reason to think that they » I know no reason to think that they wouldn’t wouldn’t wouldn’t » that<00:21:51.120> they<00:21:51.360> wouldn't<00:21:51.600> say<00:21:51.760> no,<00:21:51.919> your<00:21:52.080> roof<00:21:52.320> was » that they wouldn’t say no, your roof was » that they wouldn’t say no, your roof was done<00:21:52.640> in<00:21:52.799> 2026<00:21:53.520> and<00:21:53.760> therefore<00:21:54.159> you're<00:21:54.400> not done in 2026 and therefore you’re not done in 2026 and therefore you’re not eligible.<00:21:55.360> Would<00:21:55.679> they<00:21:55.840> go<00:21:56.000> back<00:21:56.159> to<00:21:56.240> the eligible. Would they go back to the eligible. Would they go back to the original<00:21:56.720> date<00:21:56.960> of<00:21:57.280> of<00:21:57.760> 2021<00:21:58.720> or<00:21:59.039> 2022<00:21:59.520> when

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23:33 » But it doesn’t have like 20 years of » But it doesn’t have like 20 years of use,<00:23:34.240> you<00:23:34.400> know,<00:23:34.720> um,<00:23:34.880> of<00:23:35.120> project<00:23:35.520> examples use, you know, um, of project examples use, you know, um, of project examples to<00:23:36.159> go<00:23:36.320> look<00:23:36.480> at.<00:23:37.760> Gotcha. to go look at. Gotcha. to go look at. Gotcha. » All<00:23:38.960> right.<00:23:39.120> Well,<00:23:39.360> thank<00:23:39.440> you<00:23:39.600> for<00:23:39.840> my<00:23:40.080> two » All right. Well, thank you for my two » All right. Well, thank you for my two minutes. minutes. minutes. Uh<00:23:42.960> Mark,<00:23:43.280> you<00:23:43.440> have<00:23:43.520> your<00:23:43.679> hand<00:23:43.840> raised. Uh Mark, you have your hand raised. Uh Mark, you have your hand raised. » Awesome.<00:23:45.280> Thank<00:23:45.440> you.<00:23:45.840> Um<00:23:46.960> so<00:23:47.840> I<00:23:48.080> just<00:23:48.240> want<00:23:48.400> to » Awesome. Thank you. Um so I just want to » Awesome. Thank you. Um so I just want to say<00:23:48.640> that<00:23:48.880> conceptually<00:23:49.520> I'm<00:23:49.760> totally say that conceptually I’m totally say that conceptually I’m totally interested<00:23:50.880> in<00:23:51.120> the<00:23:51.280> idea<00:23:51.679> of<00:23:52.000> the<00:23:52.480> uh<00:23:52.799> the interested in the idea of the uh the interested in the idea of the uh the overlay.<00:23:53.840> Uh<00:23:54.159> probably<00:23:54.720> polyurea<00:23:55.760> would<00:23:56.080> be overlay. Uh probably polyurea would be overlay. Uh probably polyurea would be best,<00:23:56.960> but<00:23:57.360> I'm<00:23:57.679> open<00:23:57.919> to<00:23:58.159> all<00:23:58.400> opportunities best, but I’m open to all opportunities best, but I’m open to all opportunities there.<00:23:59.679> Um,<00:24:00.000> the<00:24:00.159> one<00:24:00.320> thing<00:24:00.400> that<00:24:00.640> I'm<00:24:00.799> really there. Um, the one thing that I’m really there. Um, the one thing that I’m really interested<00:24:01.360> in<00:24:01.600> seeing<00:24:02.159> is<00:24:02.480> when<00:24:02.799> the<00:24:02.960> actual interested in seeing is when the actual interested in seeing is when the actual bid<00:24:03.600> numbers<00:24:03.919> come<00:24:04.080> in,<00:24:04.480> if<00:24:05.280> I<00:24:05.600> would<00:24:05.760> expect bid numbers come in, if I would expect bid numbers come in, if I would expect the<00:24:06.799> delta<00:24:07.200> in<00:24:07.440> pricing<00:24:07.840> between<00:24:08.159> a<00:24:08.400> complete the delta in pricing between a complete the delta in pricing between a complete recover<00:24:09.280> and<00:24:09.520> an<00:24:09.679> overlay<00:24:10.159> to<00:24:10.320> be<00:24:10.480> greater recover and an overlay to be greater recover and an overlay to be greater than<00:24:11.279> what<00:24:11.520> was<00:24:11.760> represented<00:24:12.240> in<00:24:12.480> the<00:24:12.960> um<00:24:13.520> in than what was represented in the um in than what was represented in the um in the<00:24:13.919> preliminary<00:24:14.480> estimates.<00:24:15.279> So,<00:24:15.679> I'll<00:24:15.919> be<00:24:16.400> I the preliminary estimates. So, I’ll be I the preliminary estimates. So, I’ll be I think<00:24:17.039> picking<00:24:17.360> up<00:24:17.520> this<00:24:17.760> conversation<00:24:18.240> once think picking up this conversation once think picking up this conversation once we<00:24:18.720> actually<00:24:19.039> have<00:24:19.279> some<00:24:19.679> hard<00:24:20.000> numbers<00:24:21.200> will

24:21 we actually have some hard numbers will we actually have some hard numbers will will<00:24:22.240> be<00:24:22.400> a<00:24:22.559> little<00:24:22.720> bit<00:24:22.880> more<00:24:23.120> valuable.<00:24:23.760> But will be a little bit more valuable. But will be a little bit more valuable. But but<00:24:24.400> as<00:24:24.640> far<00:24:24.799> as<00:24:25.360> you<00:24:25.440> know<00:24:25.600> a<00:24:25.760> viable<00:24:26.159> method but as far as you know a viable method but as far as you know a viable method that<00:24:26.720> is<00:24:26.960> is<00:24:27.039> is<00:24:27.679> tried<00:24:28.000> and<00:24:28.159> true<00:24:28.400> and<00:24:28.559> tested that is is is tried and true and tested that is is is tried and true and tested uh<00:24:30.080> I<00:24:30.559> I<00:24:31.039> have<00:24:31.200> no<00:24:31.440> issue<00:24:31.760> with<00:24:31.919> the<00:24:32.159> overlay uh I I have no issue with the overlay uh I I have no issue with the overlay product. product. product. » Thanks<00:24:35.760> Mark.<00:24:36.080> That's<00:24:36.240> a<00:24:36.400> great<00:24:36.559> point<00:24:36.799> is » Thanks Mark. That’s a great point is » Thanks Mark. That’s a great point is that<00:24:37.200> it<00:24:37.440> sounds<00:24:37.679> to<00:24:37.919> me<00:24:38.240> again<00:24:38.559> as<00:24:38.880> as<00:24:39.440> not<00:24:39.679> an that it sounds to me again as as not an that it sounds to me again as as not an expert<00:24:40.240> but<00:24:40.480> it<00:24:40.640> sounds<00:24:40.799> to<00:24:40.960> me<00:24:41.120> like expert but it sounds to me like expert but it sounds to me like [Music] [Music] [Music] most<00:24:43.840> of<00:24:44.000> the<00:24:44.159> decisions<00:24:44.480> we<00:24:44.720> need<00:24:44.799> to<00:24:45.039> make most of the decisions we need to make most of the decisions we need to make are<00:24:46.000> going<00:24:46.080> to<00:24:46.240> be<00:24:46.320> informed<00:24:46.799> by<00:24:46.960> the<00:24:47.360> product are going to be informed by the product are going to be informed by the product that<00:24:48.159> is<00:24:48.480> being<00:24:48.799> bid<00:24:49.200> and<00:24:49.440> by<00:24:50.720> um<00:24:51.520> by<00:24:51.760> the that is being bid and by um by the that is being bid and by um by the savings<00:24:52.320> that<00:24:52.559> we're<00:24:52.880> were<00:24:53.120> being<00:24:53.279> offered<00:24:53.600> by savings that we’re were being offered by savings that we’re were being offered by that.<00:24:54.000> And<00:24:54.240> Mike,<00:24:54.640> I'm<00:24:54.960> glad<00:24:55.200> you that. And Mike, I’m glad you that. And Mike, I’m glad you » sort<00:24:56.240> of<00:24:56.400> put<00:24:56.559> in<00:24:56.720> a<00:24:56.960> number<00:24:57.279> there<00:24:57.600> that<00:24:57.919> you » sort of put in a number there that you » sort of put in a number there that you think<00:24:58.400> makes<00:24:58.640> sense<00:24:58.880> to<00:24:59.120> you.<00:25:00.080> Um, think makes sense to you. Um, think makes sense to you. Um, so<00:25:02.640> I<00:25:02.960> mean<00:25:03.440> I<00:25:03.679> I<00:25:04.000> would<00:25:04.240> love<00:25:04.400> to<00:25:04.559> invite<00:25:05.840> um so I mean I I would love to invite um so I mean I I would love to invite um Mike<00:25:06.559> back<00:25:06.799> to<00:25:07.039> our<00:25:07.279> next<00:25:07.520> meeting<00:25:07.840> once<00:25:08.080> we're

25:08 Mike back to our next meeting once we’re Mike back to our next meeting once we’re actually<00:25:08.480> looking<00:25:08.720> at<00:25:08.960> those. actually looking at those. actually looking at those. » If<00:25:10.400> I<00:25:10.559> can<00:25:10.799> make<00:25:10.960> one<00:25:11.200> more<00:25:11.360> suggestion<00:25:12.320> on<00:25:12.720> on » If I can make one more suggestion on on » If I can make one more suggestion on on this<00:25:13.440> is<00:25:13.679> more<00:25:14.080> to<00:25:14.480> uh<00:25:15.279> to<00:25:15.520> the<00:25:15.760> OPM<00:25:16.799> lift<00:25:17.120> field this is more to uh to the OPM lift field this is more to uh to the OPM lift field is<00:25:17.760> when<00:25:17.919> you<00:25:18.080> guys<00:25:18.240> are<00:25:18.400> bidding,<00:25:19.120> could<00:25:19.360> you is when you guys are bidding, could you is when you guys are bidding, could you consider<00:25:20.559> a<00:25:21.279> separate<00:25:21.679> line<00:25:21.919> item<00:25:22.320> for<00:25:22.480> the consider a separate line item for the consider a separate line item for the polyurea<00:25:23.679> from<00:25:23.919> Garland<00:25:24.480> and<00:25:24.799> the<00:25:25.200> polyin polyurea from Garland and the polyin polyurea from Garland and the polyin from<00:25:26.480> TMCO? from TMCO? from TMCO? uh<00:25:29.600> as<00:25:29.919> separate<00:25:30.240> line<00:25:30.559> item<00:25:31.440> uh<00:25:31.679> deducts. uh as separate line item uh deducts. uh as separate line item uh deducts. » Okay. » Okay. » Okay. » So<00:25:35.200> if<00:25:36.240> if<00:25:36.720> there<00:25:36.960> were<00:25:37.360> a<00:25:37.679> manufacturer<00:25:38.720> with » So if if there were a manufacturer with » So if if there were a manufacturer with multiple<00:25:40.080> product<00:25:40.400> level<00:25:40.880> systems,<00:25:42.320> have multiple product level systems, have multiple product level systems, have them<00:25:42.799> provide<00:25:43.120> the<00:25:43.360> pricing<00:25:43.679> for<00:25:44.000> both<00:25:44.240> of them provide the pricing for both of them provide the pricing for both of them.<00:25:44.559> Is<00:25:44.720> that<00:25:44.880> sort<00:25:45.039> of<00:25:45.200> what<00:25:45.440> you're them. Is that sort of what you’re them. Is that sort of what you’re getting<00:25:45.679> at? getting at? getting at? » Yes.<00:25:46.559> What<00:25:46.799> I'm<00:25:47.039> thinking<00:25:47.520> is<00:25:48.240> I'd<00:25:48.559> like<00:25:48.720> to » Yes. What I’m thinking is I’d like to » Yes. What I’m thinking is I’d like to see<00:25:48.960> the<00:25:49.279> difference<00:25:49.520> because<00:25:49.760> there<00:25:49.919> is<00:25:50.080> a see the difference because there is a see the difference because there is a quite<00:25:51.120> a<00:25:51.360> big<00:25:51.600> difference<00:25:51.840> in<00:25:52.080> cost<00:25:52.400> between quite a big difference in cost between quite a big difference in cost between the<00:25:52.880> polyurea<00:25:53.440> and<00:25:53.600> polyurethane.<00:25:54.960> So<00:25:56.080> you

25:56 the polyurea and polyurethane. So you the polyurea and polyurethane. So you know<00:25:56.400> if<00:25:56.640> it's<00:25:56.799> a<00:25:56.960> performance<00:25:57.440> spec<00:25:58.720> let<00:25:58.960> it know if it’s a performance spec let it know if it’s a performance spec let it show<00:25:59.279> up<00:25:59.440> in<00:25:59.600> the<00:25:59.760> pricing.<00:26:00.240> So<00:26:00.400> if<00:26:00.559> you<00:26:00.799> if<00:26:01.039> you show up in the pricing. So if you if you show up in the pricing. So if you if you had<00:26:01.840> had<00:26:02.000> an<00:26:02.240> add<00:26:02.480> alternate<00:26:03.120> D<00:26:03.279> dot<00:26:04.320> for<00:26:04.559> the had had an add alternate D dot for the had had an add alternate D dot for the polyurea<00:26:05.520> and<00:26:05.679> don't<00:26:05.919> name<00:26:06.159> manufacturers polyurea and don’t name manufacturers polyurea and don’t name manufacturers just<00:26:06.960> say<00:26:07.200> polyurea<00:26:08.480> alt<00:26:08.880> d<00:26:09.039> dot<00:26:09.919> polyurethane just say polyurea alt d dot polyurethane just say polyurea alt d dot polyurethane alt<00:26:11.039> d<00:26:11.200> dot.<00:26:12.159> Uh<00:26:12.640> I<00:26:12.960> think<00:26:13.120> that<00:26:13.279> would<00:26:13.440> be<00:26:13.600> very alt d dot. Uh I think that would be very alt d dot. Uh I think that would be very helpful<00:26:14.240> in<00:26:14.480> the<00:26:14.640> evaluation<00:26:15.279> process. helpful in the evaluation process. helpful in the evaluation process. » I<00:26:18.400> agree<00:26:18.799> completely.<00:26:19.360> That's<00:26:19.520> that's<00:26:19.760> a » I agree completely. That’s that’s a » I agree completely. That’s that’s a great<00:26:20.240> idea. great idea. great idea. Yeah,<00:26:22.880> I<00:26:23.120> think<00:26:23.360> I<00:26:23.520> I<00:26:23.840> think<00:26:23.919> it's<00:26:24.080> a<00:26:24.240> a<00:26:24.480> great Yeah, I think I I think it’s a a great Yeah, I think I I think it’s a a great idea.<00:26:24.960> We're<00:26:25.200> just<00:26:25.279> going<00:26:25.360> to<00:26:25.520> have<00:26:25.600> to<00:26:25.760> think idea. We’re just going to have to think idea. We’re just going to have to think about<00:26:26.080> how<00:26:26.240> we<00:26:26.480> structure<00:26:26.799> it<00:26:26.960> in<00:26:27.200> terms<00:26:27.360> of about how we structure it in terms of about how we structure it in terms of from<00:26:28.640> the<00:26:28.880> context<00:26:29.440> of<00:26:30.640> having<00:26:30.960> to<00:26:31.200> accept from the context of having to accept from the context of having to accept alternates<00:26:32.159> in<00:26:32.320> a<00:26:32.480> certain<00:26:32.640> order.<00:26:33.039> Mike,<00:26:33.440> I alternates in a certain order. Mike, I alternates in a certain order. Mike, I think<00:26:33.760> you've<00:26:34.000> probably<00:26:34.559> known<00:26:34.799> that,<00:26:34.960> but think you’ve probably known that, but think you’ve probably known that, but yeah,<00:26:35.840> there's<00:26:36.159> just<00:26:36.320> a<00:26:36.480> little<00:26:36.640> strategy<00:26:37.039> on yeah, there’s just a little strategy on yeah, there’s just a little strategy on maybe<00:26:37.679> Molly,<00:26:38.159> we'll<00:26:38.320> have<00:26:38.480> to<00:26:38.559> regroup<00:26:38.960> on maybe Molly, we’ll have to regroup on maybe Molly, we’ll have to regroup on how<00:26:39.360> exactly<00:26:39.679> we<00:26:40.000> do<00:26:40.159> that.

26:42 how exactly we do that. how exactly we do that. And<00:26:42.720> and<00:26:42.960> is<00:26:43.120> there<00:26:43.440> a<00:26:43.679> way<00:26:43.919> that<00:26:44.240> you<00:26:44.480> could And and is there a way that you could And and is there a way that you could also<00:26:44.960> indicate<00:26:45.440> that<00:26:45.760> it'll<00:26:46.159> be<00:26:46.320> the<00:26:46.480> owner's also indicate that it’ll be the owner’s also indicate that it’ll be the owner’s discretion<00:26:47.520> on<00:26:47.919> what<00:26:48.320> system<00:26:49.279> they<00:26:49.600> install discretion on what system they install discretion on what system they install regardless<00:26:50.640> of<00:26:50.880> price?<00:26:52.159> Meaning<00:26:52.400> that<00:26:52.559> I regardless of price? Meaning that I regardless of price? Meaning that I don’t don’t don’t » there’s<00:26:53.279> limitations<00:26:54.000> to<00:26:54.240> that<00:26:54.799> in<00:26:54.960> the » there’s limitations to that in the » there’s limitations to that in the bidding<00:26:55.600> law,<00:26:56.000> but<00:26:56.480> we<00:26:56.799> can,<00:26:57.440> you<00:26:57.679> know,<00:26:58.159> we're bidding law, but we can, you know, we’re bidding law, but we can, you know, we’re bound<00:26:58.720> by<00:26:58.880> the<00:26:59.120> spec<00:26:59.520> and<00:26:59.760> the<00:27:00.000> or<00:27:00.240> equals<00:27:00.640> laws bound by the spec and the or equals laws bound by the spec and the or equals laws in<00:27:02.000> Massachusetts.<00:27:02.880> So,<00:27:03.840> um, in Massachusetts. So, um, in Massachusetts. So, um, it<00:27:05.600> it<00:27:05.919> it<00:27:06.159> is<00:27:06.320> going<00:27:06.400> to<00:27:06.480> be<00:27:06.559> a<00:27:06.720> little<00:27:06.880> tricky it it it is going to be a little tricky it it it is going to be a little tricky to<00:27:07.360> try<00:27:07.520> to<00:27:07.679> get<00:27:07.840> pricing<00:27:08.240> for<00:27:08.480> two<00:27:08.799> different to try to get pricing for two different to try to get pricing for two different specific<00:27:09.600> name<00:27:09.919> brand<00:27:10.320> systems<00:27:11.200> before<00:27:11.679> you specific name brand systems before you specific name brand systems before you enter<00:27:12.400> into<00:27:12.799> contract<00:27:13.279> and<00:27:14.080> do<00:27:14.320> a<00:27:14.480> submitt, enter into contract and do a submitt, enter into contract and do a submitt, but<00:27:15.200> I<00:27:15.279> don't<00:27:15.360> want<00:27:15.520> I<00:27:15.760> also<00:27:15.919> don't<00:27:16.080> want<00:27:16.240> to but I don’t want I also don’t want to but I don’t want I also don’t want to like<00:27:17.039> close<00:27:17.360> the<00:27:17.520> door<00:27:17.760> on<00:27:18.000> that.<00:27:18.400> Um<00:27:18.880> because like close the door on that. Um because like close the door on that. Um because certainly<00:27:20.000> we<00:27:20.080> have<00:27:20.159> to<00:27:20.320> think<00:27:20.480> it<00:27:20.720> through, certainly we have to think it through, certainly we have to think it through, » but<00:27:21.760> it<00:27:22.080> it's » but it it’s » but it it’s just<00:27:23.840> the<00:27:24.159> nature<00:27:24.400> of<00:27:24.559> the<00:27:24.799> way<00:27:24.880> these just the nature of the way these just the nature of the way these projects<00:27:25.760> have<00:27:26.000> to<00:27:26.080> be<00:27:26.240> bid<00:27:26.799> is<00:27:27.120> like<00:27:27.360> that<00:27:27.919> we

27:28 projects have to be bid is like that we projects have to be bid is like that we don’t<00:27:28.480> we're<00:27:28.799> not<00:27:28.960> privy<00:27:29.360> to<00:27:29.600> what<00:27:29.840> product don’t we’re not privy to what product don’t we’re not privy to what product there<00:27:31.360> bid<00:27:31.600> is<00:27:31.760> based<00:27:32.000> on<00:27:32.159> until<00:27:32.480> we<00:27:32.720> get<00:27:32.799> to there bid is based on until we get to there bid is based on until we get to the<00:27:33.039> submittal<00:27:33.600> phase the submittal phase the submittal phase » and<00:27:34.880> you're<00:27:35.200> not<00:27:35.360> allowed<00:27:35.600> to<00:27:35.760> ask<00:27:36.000> or » and you’re not allowed to ask or » and you’re not allowed to ask or negotiate<00:27:36.960> that<00:27:37.360> before<00:27:37.760> you<00:27:38.000> enter<00:27:38.240> into negotiate that before you enter into negotiate that before you enter into contract. contract. contract. » My<00:27:40.559> my<00:27:40.880> concern<00:27:41.360> is<00:27:41.600> that<00:27:41.919> I<00:27:42.159> really<00:27:42.480> don't » My my concern is that I really don’t » My my concern is that I really don’t consider<00:27:43.440> uh<00:27:43.679> polyurea<00:27:44.320> and<00:27:44.559> polyurethane consider uh polyurea and polyurethane consider uh polyurea and polyurethane equals.<00:27:46.480> So<00:27:46.799> I<00:27:47.039> am<00:27:47.360> on<00:27:47.679> on<00:27:48.480> Mark's<00:27:49.039> team<00:27:49.840> that equals. So I am on on Mark’s team that equals. So I am on on Mark’s team that my<00:27:50.559> preference<00:27:50.880> is<00:27:51.120> polyurea.<00:27:51.919> That's<00:27:52.080> a<00:27:52.320> more my preference is polyurea. That’s a more my preference is polyurea. That’s a more superior<00:27:52.960> product<00:27:53.279> than<00:27:53.600> the<00:27:54.320> uh<00:27:54.960> urethane superior product than the uh urethane superior product than the uh urethane product product product » by<00:27:56.559> by<00:27:56.880> all<00:27:57.120> measures.<00:27:57.600> I<00:27:57.760> mean<00:27:57.919> there's<00:27:58.159> no » by by all measures. I mean there’s no » by by all measures. I mean there’s no question. question. question. » Yes,<00:27:59.440> I<00:27:59.760> agree<00:27:59.919> with<00:28:00.080> you<00:28:00.320> Mark<00:28:00.640> 100%.<00:28:01.679> So<00:28:02.399> if » Yes, I agree with you Mark 100%. So if » Yes, I agree with you Mark 100%. So if there’s<00:28:03.120> any<00:28:03.360> way<00:28:03.520> that<00:28:03.760> we<00:28:03.919> can<00:28:04.080> just there’s any way that we can just there’s any way that we can just eliminate<00:28:04.720> the<00:28:05.279> the<00:28:05.600> polyurethane,<00:28:06.640> that eliminate the the polyurethane, that eliminate the the polyurethane, that would<00:28:06.960> be<00:28:07.039> my<00:28:07.279> preference<00:28:07.679> and<00:28:07.919> my would be my preference and my would be my preference and my recommendation. recommendation. recommendation. » That<00:28:09.360> would<00:28:09.520> be<00:28:09.679> a<00:28:09.840> a<00:28:10.320> more<00:28:10.640> straightforward » That would be a a more straightforward » That would be a a more straightforward method<00:28:11.600> from<00:28:11.840> a<00:28:12.000> bidding<00:28:12.320> perspective.<00:28:13.279> For

28:13 method from a bidding perspective. For method from a bidding perspective. For sure. sure. sure. » That’s<00:28:14.320> what<00:28:14.480> I<00:28:14.640> was<00:28:14.720> going<00:28:14.799> to<00:28:14.960> suggest. » That’s what I was going to suggest. » That’s what I was going to suggest. Molly,<00:28:15.919> as<00:28:16.159> you're<00:28:16.240> honing<00:28:16.480> in<00:28:16.720> that Molly, as you’re honing in that Molly, as you’re honing in that performance<00:28:17.279> spec,<00:28:17.679> hone<00:28:17.919> it<00:28:18.000> in<00:28:18.159> around<00:28:18.399> the performance spec, hone it in around the performance spec, hone it in around the polyurea<00:28:19.279> product. polyurea product. polyurea product. » Okay. » Okay. » Okay. » Yeah,<00:28:22.640> maybe<00:28:22.880> that's<00:28:23.039> where<00:28:23.200> our<00:28:23.360> attention » Yeah, maybe that’s where our attention » Yeah, maybe that’s where our attention goes<00:28:24.080> because<00:28:24.320> I<00:28:24.480> was<00:28:24.559> just<00:28:24.720> thinking<00:28:24.960> the goes because I was just thinking the goes because I was just thinking the same<00:28:25.200> thing.<00:28:25.360> I'm<00:28:25.520> not<00:28:25.600> even<00:28:25.840> I<00:28:26.080> don't<00:28:26.240> think same thing. I’m not even I don’t think same thing. I’m not even I don’t think we<00:28:26.559> could<00:28:26.720> get<00:28:26.880> away<00:28:27.120> with<00:28:27.360> even<00:28:27.679> asking<00:28:28.480> for<00:28:28.720> a we could get away with even asking for a we could get away with even asking for a bid<00:28:29.600> with<00:28:29.840> an<00:28:30.240> identification<00:28:30.880> of<00:28:31.039> the bid with an identification of the bid with an identification of the carried<00:28:31.679> system.<00:28:32.159> I<00:28:32.320> I<00:28:32.640> think<00:28:32.799> we<00:28:33.039> have<00:28:33.200> to<00:28:33.360> let carried system. I I think we have to let carried system. I I think we have to let that<00:28:33.840> happen<00:28:34.799> after.<00:28:35.440> But<00:28:35.919> it's<00:28:36.159> a<00:28:36.399> point<00:28:36.720> very that happen after. But it’s a point very that happen after. But it’s a point very well<00:28:37.279> taken,<00:28:37.679> Mike,<00:28:37.919> and<00:28:38.159> I<00:28:38.320> think<00:28:38.399> we<00:28:38.559> can<00:28:38.720> put well taken, Mike, and I think we can put well taken, Mike, and I think we can put some<00:28:39.039> strategy<00:28:39.440> behind<00:28:39.760> how<00:28:39.919> the<00:28:40.080> performance some strategy behind how the performance some strategy behind how the performance spec<00:28:40.799> is<00:28:41.039> written.<00:28:41.760> Let<00:28:42.000> me<00:28:42.320> um<00:28:42.480> ask<00:28:42.640> you<00:28:43.039> Mike, spec is written. Let me um ask you Mike, spec is written. Let me um ask you Mike, you<00:28:43.760> have<00:28:43.919> found<00:28:44.159> that<00:28:44.399> there<00:28:44.640> are<00:28:45.039> at<00:28:45.039> least you have found that there are at least you have found that there are at least three<00:28:46.159> good<00:28:47.120> in<00:28:47.360> your<00:28:47.520> mind<00:28:48.080> equal<00:28:48.399> to<00:28:48.559> gar<00:28:49.120> uh three good in your mind equal to gar uh three good in your mind equal to gar uh garland<00:28:50.000> manufacturers<00:28:50.720> of<00:28:50.880> the<00:28:51.039> polyora. garland manufacturers of the polyora. garland manufacturers of the polyora. » Well,<00:28:53.760> we've<00:28:54.159> typically<00:28:55.360> used<00:28:56.159> uh<00:28:56.799> polyurea » Well, we’ve typically used uh polyurea » Well, we’ve typically used uh polyurea garland<00:28:58.159> system<00:28:58.559> on<00:28:58.640> on<00:28:59.039> several<00:28:59.440> large

28:59 garland system on on several large garland system on on several large projects<00:29:00.320> with<00:29:00.559> very<00:29:00.880> good<00:29:01.039> success.<00:29:01.600> We've projects with very good success. We’ve projects with very good success. We’ve also<00:29:02.240> used<00:29:02.559> TMCO also used TMCO also used TMCO uh<00:29:04.240> on<00:29:04.559> different<00:29:04.880> projects,<00:29:06.000> but<00:29:06.480> my uh on different projects, but my uh on different projects, but my research<00:29:07.279> and<00:29:07.520> and<00:29:07.600> and<00:29:08.240> recent<00:29:08.640> experience research and and and recent experience research and and and recent experience um<00:29:10.559> my<00:29:10.880> preference<00:29:11.279> is<00:29:11.600> the<00:29:11.919> polyurea<00:29:12.799> that um my preference is the polyurea that um my preference is the polyurea that the<00:29:13.520> Garland<00:29:14.080> makes. the Garland makes. the Garland makes. » We<00:29:15.440> just<00:29:15.600> have<00:29:15.679> to<00:29:15.840> make<00:29:16.000> sure<00:29:16.159> that<00:29:16.320> it's<00:29:16.480> a » We just have to make sure that it’s a » We just have to make sure that it’s a that<00:29:17.200> that<00:29:17.600> two<00:29:17.840> other<00:29:18.080> manufacturers<00:29:18.799> make that that two other manufacturers make that that two other manufacturers make it<00:29:19.279> or<00:29:19.520> we<00:29:19.760> have<00:29:19.919> to<00:29:20.240> produce<00:29:20.559> a<00:29:20.799> proprietary it or we have to produce a proprietary it or we have to produce a proprietary spec<00:29:21.760> and<00:29:21.919> go<00:29:22.080> through<00:29:22.240> the<00:29:22.399> channels<00:29:22.720> to<00:29:22.960> make spec and go through the channels to make spec and go through the channels to make that<00:29:23.760> argument<00:29:24.320> with<00:29:24.480> the<00:29:24.720> AG.<00:29:25.200> That's<00:29:25.520> the that argument with the AG. That’s the that argument with the AG. That’s the concern.<00:29:26.320> And<00:29:26.559> so<00:29:26.640> we<00:29:26.799> we<00:29:27.120> can<00:29:27.279> do<00:29:27.440> that concern. And so we we can do that concern. And so we we can do that research<00:29:28.240> certainly.<00:29:29.120> Um<00:29:29.520> the<00:29:30.320> idea<00:29:30.720> was<00:29:31.440> that research certainly. Um the idea was that research certainly. Um the idea was that we<00:29:31.919> know<00:29:32.080> that<00:29:32.240> TMCO<00:29:32.799> sorry<00:29:33.039> Karema<00:29:33.440> I<00:29:33.600> see<00:29:33.760> I we know that TMCO sorry Karema I see I we know that TMCO sorry Karema I see I see<00:29:34.080> you<00:29:34.240> have<00:29:34.399> your<00:29:34.559> hand<00:29:34.720> up.<00:29:35.279> Um see you have your hand up. Um see you have your hand up. Um that<00:29:37.760> we<00:29:38.000> wanted<00:29:38.399> we<00:29:38.640> know<00:29:38.720> that<00:29:38.960> TMCO's<00:29:39.840> even that we wanted we know that TMCO’s even that we wanted we know that TMCO’s even I<00:29:40.799> 100%<00:29:41.679> understand<00:29:42.080> and<00:29:42.399> agree<00:29:42.720> on<00:29:42.799> the I 100% understand and agree on the I 100% understand and agree on the polyurethane<00:29:43.919> but<00:29:44.159> we<00:29:44.320> know<00:29:44.399> that<00:29:44.559> TMCO<00:29:45.039> by

29:45 polyurethane but we know that TMCO by polyurethane but we know that TMCO by nature<00:29:45.520> is<00:29:46.080> is<00:29:46.399> a<00:29:47.520> um nature is is a um nature is is a um » manufacturer<00:29:49.200> that<00:29:49.440> we<00:29:49.600> would<00:29:49.919> have<00:29:50.080> faith » manufacturer that we would have faith » manufacturer that we would have faith in.<00:29:51.120> Um,<00:29:51.600> I<00:29:51.919> just<00:29:52.080> want<00:29:52.240> to<00:29:52.399> make<00:29:52.559> sure<00:29:52.720> we're in. Um, I just want to make sure we’re in. Um, I just want to make sure we’re not<00:29:53.200> inadvertently<00:29:54.559> creating<00:29:55.039> a<00:29:55.360> proprietary not inadvertently creating a proprietary not inadvertently creating a proprietary specification<00:29:56.799> by<00:29:57.679> specifying<00:29:58.240> polyorhea specification by specifying polyorhea specification by specifying polyorhea and<00:29:59.039> then<00:29:59.200> having<00:29:59.440> Garland<00:29:59.919> be<00:30:00.080> the<00:30:00.240> only<00:30:00.480> one and then having Garland be the only one and then having Garland be the only one that<00:30:00.880> anyone<00:30:01.200> would<00:30:01.440> ever<00:30:01.679> trust<00:30:01.919> on<00:30:02.159> it. that anyone would ever trust on it. that anyone would ever trust on it. » Uh,<00:30:03.440> I<00:30:03.760> believe<00:30:04.000> there<00:30:04.240> are<00:30:04.480> others.<00:30:05.200> Uh, » Uh, I believe there are others. Uh, » Uh, I believe there are others. Uh, » I<00:30:06.480> just<00:30:06.720> I<00:30:06.960> just<00:30:07.120> Googled<00:30:07.440> it.<00:30:07.679> There's » I just I just Googled it. There’s » I just I just Googled it. There’s several. several. several. » We<00:30:09.200> can<00:30:09.279> work<00:30:09.440> with<00:30:10.080> um<00:30:10.799> um<00:30:11.840> Rob,<00:30:12.320> is<00:30:12.480> that<00:30:12.720> the » We can work with um um Rob, is that the » We can work with um um Rob, is that the the<00:30:13.360> Garland<00:30:13.919> rep<00:30:14.159> as<00:30:14.320> well? the Garland rep as well? the Garland rep as well? » Yeah,<00:30:14.960> Rob.<00:30:15.360> Yes. » Yeah, Rob. Yes. » Yeah, Rob. Yes. » Yeah.<00:30:16.000> Yep.<00:30:16.399> Um<00:30:16.960> and<00:30:17.200> and<00:30:17.600> and<00:30:17.600> and<00:30:18.399> I'm<00:30:18.640> sure » Yeah. Yep. Um and and and and I’m sure » Yeah. Yep. Um and and and and I’m sure when<00:30:19.200> I<00:30:19.440> was<00:30:19.600> working<00:30:19.840> with<00:30:20.000> him<00:30:20.320> on<00:30:20.640> on<00:30:21.120> coming when I was working with him on on coming when I was working with him on on coming up<00:30:21.520> with<00:30:21.679> some<00:30:21.840> options<00:30:22.240> for<00:30:22.480> this<00:30:22.720> school,<00:30:23.440> he up with some options for this school, he up with some options for this school, he offered<00:30:24.080> his<00:30:24.399> help.<00:30:24.880> I<00:30:25.039> I<00:30:25.200> know. offered his help. I I know. offered his help. I I know. » Oh,<00:30:25.760> yeah.<00:30:25.919> He's<00:30:26.080> very<00:30:26.320> helpful.<00:30:26.640> We've<00:30:26.880> been » Oh, yeah. He’s very helpful. We’ve been » Oh, yeah. He’s very helpful. We’ve been working<00:30:27.279> kind<00:30:27.440> of<00:30:27.520> handinhand<00:30:28.080> with<00:30:28.240> him.<00:30:28.480> So, working kind of handinhand with him. So, working kind of handinhand with him. So, » so,<00:30:29.120> so<00:30:29.440> and<00:30:29.679> he's<00:30:29.919> done<00:30:30.080> a<00:30:30.320> lot<00:30:30.399> of<00:30:30.559> schools.

30:30 » so, so and he’s done a lot of schools. » so, so and he’s done a lot of schools. So,<00:30:31.440> we've<00:30:31.760> I<00:30:32.000> think<00:30:32.080> he's<00:30:32.320> been<00:30:32.480> over<00:30:32.799> this So, we’ve I think he’s been over this So, we’ve I think he’s been over this issue<00:30:33.520> before.<00:30:33.919> So,<00:30:34.080> he'll<00:30:34.399> be<00:30:34.480> able<00:30:34.640> to<00:30:34.720> give issue before. So, he’ll be able to give issue before. So, he’ll be able to give you<00:30:35.039> some<00:30:35.200> feedback<00:30:35.679> and<00:30:35.919> some<00:30:36.399> some<00:30:36.799> insight you some feedback and some some insight you some feedback and some some insight that<00:30:37.360> he's<00:30:37.679> had<00:30:37.919> on<00:30:38.240> previous<00:30:38.559> projects.<00:30:39.279> So, that he’s had on previous projects. So, that he’s had on previous projects. So, » interestingly,<00:30:40.960> I'm<00:30:41.120> sorry<00:30:41.360> I<00:30:41.520> don't<00:30:41.679> I<00:30:41.919> know » interestingly, I’m sorry I don’t I know » interestingly, I’m sorry I don’t I know everyone<00:30:42.399> has<00:30:43.360> their<00:30:43.600> time<00:30:43.760> is<00:30:43.919> valuable,<00:30:44.320> but everyone has their time is valuable, but everyone has their time is valuable, but um<00:30:46.159> he<00:30:46.559> actually<00:30:47.039> said<00:30:47.279> that<00:30:47.520> at<00:30:47.840> one<00:30:48.080> point um he actually said that at one point um he actually said that at one point way<00:30:48.880> back<00:30:49.200> he<00:30:49.440> said<00:30:49.600> that<00:30:49.919> a<00:30:50.159> lot<00:30:50.240> of<00:30:50.399> times<00:30:51.120> if way back he said that a lot of times if way back he said that a lot of times if they<00:30:51.679> are<00:30:51.840> going<00:30:52.000> head-to-head<00:30:52.559> with<00:30:52.799> TMCO<00:30:53.919> as they are going head-to-head with TMCO as they are going head-to-head with TMCO as um<00:30:55.600> equals<00:30:56.960> on<00:30:57.120> a<00:30:57.360> public<00:30:57.520> bid<00:30:57.840> that<00:30:58.000> TMCO<00:30:58.559> ends um equals on a public bid that TMCO ends um equals on a public bid that TMCO ends up<00:30:58.960> pointing<00:30:59.200> out<00:30:59.440> like<00:30:59.679> 75%<00:31:00.399> of<00:31:00.480> the<00:31:00.720> time<00:31:00.880> and up pointing out like 75% of the time and up pointing out like 75% of the time and thought<00:31:01.440> it<00:31:01.600> was<00:31:01.760> interesting.<00:31:02.159> It<00:31:02.640> requires thought it was interesting. It requires thought it was interesting. It requires some<00:31:03.360> digging<00:31:03.679> into<00:31:04.640> why<00:31:05.039> is<00:31:05.279> that<00:31:05.440> a<00:31:05.600> price? some digging into why is that a price? some digging into why is that a price? you<00:31:07.120> know,<00:31:07.279> just<00:31:07.520> that<00:31:07.679> the<00:31:08.080> urethane<00:31:08.480> is you know, just that the urethane is you know, just that the urethane is polyurethane<00:31:09.520> is<00:31:09.760> just<00:31:10.000> not polyurethane is just not polyurethane is just not » um<00:31:12.080> you<00:31:12.159> know,<00:31:12.320> the<00:31:12.480> price<00:31:12.720> speaks<00:31:13.039> for<00:31:13.200> your » um you know, the price speaks for your » um you know, the price speaks for your opinions<00:31:13.919> kind<00:31:14.159> of<00:31:14.240> thing.<00:31:14.480> And<00:31:14.640> then<00:31:15.279> right

31:15 opinions kind of thing. And then right opinions kind of thing. And then right or<00:31:16.240> is<00:31:16.320> it<00:31:16.480> more<00:31:16.640> of<00:31:16.880> just<00:31:17.039> a<00:31:17.520> familiarity<00:31:18.480> with or is it more of just a familiarity with or is it more of just a familiarity with polyurethane?<00:31:20.000> I<00:31:20.159> don't<00:31:20.320> know. polyurethane? I don’t know. polyurethane? I don’t know. » My<00:31:23.039> understanding<00:31:23.440> is<00:31:23.600> that<00:31:23.840> polyurea<00:31:24.640> is<00:31:24.799> a » My understanding is that polyurea is a » My understanding is that polyurea is a more<00:31:25.200> expensive<00:31:25.679> product,<00:31:26.000> but<00:31:26.240> because<00:31:26.480> it's more expensive product, but because it’s more expensive product, but because it’s a<00:31:26.880> superior<00:31:27.360> product.<00:31:27.760> So,<00:31:28.559> um<00:31:28.880> but<00:31:29.600> anyway, a superior product. So, um but anyway, a superior product. So, um but anyway, » the<00:31:30.480> cost<00:31:30.720> benefit<00:31:31.120> is<00:31:31.360> there.<00:31:31.679> Right. » the cost benefit is there. Right. » the cost benefit is there. Right. Exactly.<00:31:32.720> Okay. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. Okay. » Great.<00:31:34.399> This<00:31:34.559> is<00:31:34.720> really<00:31:34.960> helpful.<00:31:35.360> Thank » Great. This is really helpful. Thank » Great. This is really helpful. Thank you. you. you. Uh,<00:31:37.120> can<00:31:37.360> I<00:31:37.519> ask<00:31:37.840> a<00:31:38.240> question<00:31:38.480> that's<00:31:38.799> that's Uh, can I ask a question that’s that’s Uh, can I ask a question that’s that’s slightly<00:31:39.919> different<00:31:40.159> because<00:31:40.399> I<00:31:40.720> missed<00:31:40.880> the slightly different because I missed the slightly different because I missed the first<00:31:41.200> meeting.<00:31:41.600> I<00:31:41.760> just<00:31:41.840> want<00:31:41.919> to<00:31:42.000> see<00:31:42.080> if first meeting. I just want to see if first meeting. I just want to see if this<00:31:42.399> was<00:31:42.559> discussed.<00:31:42.960> If<00:31:43.120> it<00:31:43.279> was,<00:31:43.519> I'll<00:31:43.760> I'll this was discussed. If it was, I’ll I’ll this was discussed. If it was, I’ll I’ll uh<00:31:44.399> catch<00:31:44.559> up<00:31:44.720> with<00:31:44.799> you,<00:31:45.039> Henry,<00:31:45.360> later,<00:31:45.519> but uh catch up with you, Henry, later, but uh catch up with you, Henry, later, but if<00:31:45.919> not,<00:31:46.080> I<00:31:46.240> just<00:31:46.399> got<00:31:46.559> a<00:31:46.720> question<00:31:46.880> about<00:31:47.039> the if not, I just got a question about the if not, I just got a question about the HVAC<00:31:47.840> systems. » Go ahead. Although, uh, Mark, can I call » Go ahead. Although, uh, Mark, can I call on<00:31:54.559> Kareema<00:31:54.960> first?<00:31:55.200> She's<00:31:55.440> had<00:31:55.519> her<00:31:55.600> hand<00:31:55.760> up. on Kareema first? She’s had her hand up. on Kareema first? She’s had her hand up. » I’m<00:31:56.320> so<00:31:56.480> sorry.<00:31:56.640> Yeah,<00:31:56.960> I<00:31:57.200> can't<00:31:57.360> see<00:31:57.519> from<00:31:57.679> my » I’m so sorry. Yeah, I can’t see from my » I’m so sorry. Yeah, I can’t see from my phone. phone. phone. » Yeah,<00:31:58.320> that's<00:31:58.480> all<00:31:58.559> right.<00:31:58.720> It's<00:31:59.279> Yeah, » Yeah, that’s all right. It’s Yeah, » Yeah, that’s all right. It’s Yeah, » apologize.

32:01 » apologize. » apologize. » I’ll<00:32:01.440> come<00:32:01.600> back<00:32:01.679> to<00:32:01.840> you.<00:32:02.159> Uh<00:32:02.480> yeah,<00:32:02.720> just » I’ll come back to you. Uh yeah, just » I’ll come back to you. Uh yeah, just yeah,<00:32:03.360> just<00:32:03.519> to<00:32:03.679> stay<00:32:03.840> with<00:32:04.000> the<00:32:04.080> roofing<00:32:04.480> for yeah, just to stay with the roofing for yeah, just to stay with the roofing for a<00:32:05.039> couple<00:32:05.360> seconds.<00:32:05.840> Um<00:32:06.000> and<00:32:06.240> Molly,<00:32:06.720> maybe a couple seconds. Um and Molly, maybe a couple seconds. Um and Molly, maybe you<00:32:07.120> can<00:32:07.679> and<00:32:07.919> maybe<00:32:08.240> Mike<00:32:08.799> walk<00:32:09.120> me<00:32:09.360> through you can and maybe Mike walk me through you can and maybe Mike walk me through just<00:32:09.760> really<00:32:09.919> high<00:32:10.159> level.<00:32:10.720> Um<00:32:11.600> so<00:32:11.840> with<00:32:12.080> the just really high level. Um so with the just really high level. Um so with the it<00:32:13.760> seemed<00:32:14.000> like<00:32:14.240> a<00:32:14.480> lot<00:32:14.559> of<00:32:14.720> the<00:32:14.880> issues<00:32:15.200> that it seemed like a lot of the issues that it seemed like a lot of the issues that came<00:32:15.600> from<00:32:15.919> the<00:32:16.080> the<00:32:16.399> leaks<00:32:16.799> were<00:32:17.039> around<00:32:17.440> I came from the the leaks were around I came from the the leaks were around I know<00:32:17.919> people<00:32:18.080> were<00:32:18.159> talking<00:32:18.320> about<00:32:18.480> seams<00:32:18.799> and know people were talking about seams and know people were talking about seams and like<00:32:19.279> penetrations<00:32:20.399> and<00:32:21.360> obviously<00:32:21.679> we're like penetrations and obviously we’re like penetrations and obviously we’re going to<00:32:21.919> have<00:32:22.000> a<00:32:22.080> lot<00:32:22.159> of<00:32:22.240> new<00:32:22.399> pipe<00:32:22.559> work.<00:32:22.799> I going to have a lot of new pipe work. I going to have a lot of new pipe work. I I<00:32:23.120> saw<00:32:23.279> a<00:32:23.440> lot<00:32:23.519> of<00:32:23.679> details<00:32:24.159> for<00:32:24.320> that<00:32:24.559> so<00:32:24.799> we I saw a lot of details for that so we I saw a lot of details for that so we can<00:32:25.120> kind<00:32:25.279> of<00:32:25.440> make<00:32:25.679> sure<00:32:25.840> that<00:32:26.799> it's<00:32:27.279> kind<00:32:27.440> of can kind of make sure that it’s kind of can kind of make sure that it’s kind of done<00:32:27.760> properly<00:32:28.000> in<00:32:28.159> the<00:32:28.240> field.<00:32:28.640> Does<00:32:28.880> the done properly in the field. Does the done properly in the field. Does the recover<00:32:29.840> or<00:32:30.320> know<00:32:30.480> the<00:32:30.640> restore<00:32:31.600> option,<00:32:32.960> how recover or know the restore option, how recover or know the restore option, how does<00:32:33.279> that<00:32:33.440> deal<00:32:33.679> with<00:32:33.840> penetrations<00:32:34.880> and does that deal with penetrations and does that deal with penetrations and seen<00:32:35.840> or<00:32:36.000> like<00:32:36.159> where<00:32:36.399> we're<00:32:36.640> actually<00:32:37.120> seeing seen or like where we’re actually seeing seen or like where we’re actually seeing all<00:32:37.679> of<00:32:37.760> these<00:32:38.000> leaks<00:32:38.320> that<00:32:38.559> happened<00:32:38.799> the all of these leaks that happened the all of these leaks that happened the first<00:32:39.200> time?<00:32:39.840> And<00:32:40.000> then<00:32:40.240> when<00:32:40.399> I<00:32:40.559> looked<00:32:40.720> at first time? And then when I looked at first time? And then when I looked at the<00:32:41.200> drawings<00:32:41.519> really<00:32:41.760> briefly,<00:32:42.000> it<00:32:42.159> looked the drawings really briefly, it looked the drawings really briefly, it looked like<00:32:42.399> we<00:32:42.559> were<00:32:42.720> doing<00:32:42.880> just<00:32:43.039> a<00:32:43.200> lot<00:32:43.360> of<00:32:43.440> like like we were doing just a lot of like like we were doing just a lot of like putting putting putting covers<00:32:45.760> down<00:32:45.919> in<00:32:46.159> areas<00:32:46.559> like

32:48 covers down in areas like covers down in areas like like<00:32:48.399> pieces<00:32:48.720> of<00:32:49.120> I<00:32:49.200> don't<00:32:49.279> know<00:32:49.360> what<00:32:49.600> the like pieces of I don’t know what the like pieces of I don’t know what the material<00:32:50.159> was<00:32:50.480> just<00:32:50.640> sort<00:32:50.799> of<00:32:50.960> putting<00:32:51.120> it<00:32:51.279> on material was just sort of putting it on material was just sort of putting it on top<00:32:51.679> of<00:32:52.240> areas.<00:32:52.720> And<00:32:53.760> I<00:32:54.000> guess<00:32:54.159> what<00:32:54.480> our<00:32:54.880> plan top of areas. And I guess what our plan top of areas. And I guess what our plan is<00:32:55.360> to<00:32:55.600> like<00:32:56.240> repair<00:32:56.640> the<00:32:56.880> roof<00:32:57.120> rather<00:32:57.440> than is to like repair the roof rather than is to like repair the roof rather than just<00:32:57.840> cover. just cover. just cover. I<00:32:59.760> apologize<00:33:00.159> if<00:33:00.320> this<00:33:00.480> is<00:33:00.559> like<00:33:00.720> a<00:33:00.880> silly I apologize if this is like a silly I apologize if this is like a silly question.<00:33:01.440> I<00:33:01.679> just<00:33:01.919> it<00:33:02.159> got<00:33:02.320> a<00:33:02.480> little question. I just it got a little question. I just it got a little confused<00:33:02.960> looking<00:33:03.120> at<00:33:03.279> the<00:33:03.440> drawing<00:33:03.919> 20 confused looking at the drawing 20 confused looking at the drawing 20 minutes<00:33:04.399> before<00:33:04.640> this<00:33:04.880> meeting,<00:33:05.120> but minutes before this meeting, but minutes before this meeting, but » I<00:33:05.760> can<00:33:05.840> speak<00:33:06.000> to<00:33:06.159> that.<00:33:06.480> And<00:33:06.720> also,<00:33:07.039> you<00:33:07.200> know, » I can speak to that. And also, you know, » I can speak to that. And also, you know, we<00:33:07.600> we've<00:33:08.159> progressed<00:33:08.480> the<00:33:08.720> drawings<00:33:09.039> a<00:33:09.200> lot we we’ve progressed the drawings a lot we we’ve progressed the drawings a lot in<00:33:09.840> the<00:33:10.000> last<00:33:10.399> week<00:33:10.640> as<00:33:10.960> well.<00:33:11.519> Um<00:33:12.159> but<00:33:12.559> the in the last week as well. Um but the in the last week as well. Um but the idea<00:33:13.200> is<00:33:13.440> that<00:33:14.320> even<00:33:14.720> for<00:33:15.039> the<00:33:15.360> coding<00:33:15.840> system, idea is that even for the coding system, idea is that even for the coding system, all<00:33:16.640> of<00:33:16.799> the<00:33:16.960> HVAC<00:33:17.600> curbs<00:33:18.000> are<00:33:18.159> being<00:33:18.399> replaced all of the HVAC curbs are being replaced all of the HVAC curbs are being replaced because<00:33:18.960> all<00:33:19.120> of<00:33:19.200> the<00:33:19.360> HVAC because all of the HVAC because all of the HVAC um<00:33:21.600> equipment<00:33:22.000> is<00:33:22.240> being<00:33:22.480> replaced<00:33:23.440> and<00:33:23.600> they um equipment is being replaced and they um equipment is being replaced and they all<00:33:24.240> they<00:33:24.559> are<00:33:24.799> all<00:33:25.120> getting<00:33:25.440> new<00:33:25.679> curbs.<00:33:26.640> So all they are all getting new curbs. So all they are all getting new curbs. So that<00:33:27.200> actually<00:33:27.600> will<00:33:28.000> those<00:33:28.320> will<00:33:28.640> be that actually will those will be that actually will those will be reflashed<00:33:30.080> and<00:33:30.640> essentially<00:33:31.120> then<00:33:31.600> they're reflashed and essentially then they’re reflashed and essentially then they’re just<00:33:32.159> they're<00:33:32.480> going<00:33:32.559> to<00:33:32.720> be<00:33:32.880> putting<00:33:33.600> um

33:35 just they’re going to be putting um just they’re going to be putting um » you<00:33:35.279> know<00:33:35.440> a<00:33:35.679> membrane<00:33:36.080> a<00:33:36.240> PVC<00:33:36.640> membrane<00:33:37.120> on » you know a membrane a PVC membrane on » you know a membrane a PVC membrane on them<00:33:37.440> and<00:33:37.679> then<00:33:37.919> coating<00:33:38.320> that.<00:33:38.720> So<00:33:39.600> um them and then coating that. So um them and then coating that. So um » okay » okay » okay » so<00:33:41.360> that<00:33:41.679> helps<00:33:41.919> with<00:33:42.320> as<00:33:42.640> far<00:33:42.799> as<00:33:43.039> concern<00:33:43.519> of » so that helps with as far as concern of » so that helps with as far as concern of penetration<00:33:46.480> terminations penetration terminations penetration terminations um<00:33:48.880> above<00:33:49.279> the<00:33:49.440> coating<00:33:50.000> limitation um above the coating limitation um above the coating limitation essentially. essentially. essentially. » Um<00:33:52.320> most<00:33:53.519> regular<00:33:53.919> pipe<00:33:54.159> penetrations<00:33:54.799> will » Um most regular pipe penetrations will » Um most regular pipe penetrations will stay<00:33:55.279> in<00:33:55.440> place<00:33:55.840> but<00:33:56.480> of<00:33:56.720> course<00:33:57.039> if<00:33:57.440> the<00:33:57.840> if<00:33:58.159> we stay in place but of course if the if we stay in place but of course if the if we find<00:33:58.640> that<00:33:59.039> they're<00:33:59.360> damaged<00:33:59.919> and<00:34:00.240> can't find that they’re damaged and can’t find that they’re damaged and can’t accept<00:34:00.720> the<00:34:00.960> coating<00:34:01.200> or<00:34:01.519> you<00:34:01.679> know<00:34:01.840> that<00:34:02.080> the accept the coating or you know that the accept the coating or you know that the part<00:34:02.480> of<00:34:02.559> the<00:34:02.720> coding<00:34:03.120> prep<00:34:03.360> is<00:34:03.600> to<00:34:04.320> repair part of the coding prep is to repair part of the coding prep is to repair those<00:34:05.679> um<00:34:05.919> sealants<00:34:06.399> and<00:34:06.559> terminations.<00:34:07.600> Mike those um sealants and terminations. Mike those um sealants and terminations. Mike Belgi,<00:34:08.480> you<00:34:08.560> can<00:34:08.639> correct<00:34:08.879> me<00:34:08.960> if<00:34:09.119> I'm<00:34:09.359> wrong. Belgi, you can correct me if I’m wrong. Belgi, you can correct me if I’m wrong. Um,<00:34:10.159> and<00:34:10.480> and<00:34:10.879> then<00:34:11.679> the Um, and and then the Um, and and then the the<00:34:13.679> preparations<00:34:14.320> that<00:34:14.560> you<00:34:14.720> saw,<00:34:15.040> there's the preparations that you saw, there’s the preparations that you saw, there’s like<00:34:15.599> different<00:34:16.000> categories<00:34:16.720> of<00:34:17.520> substrate like different categories of substrate like different categories of substrate repair.<00:34:18.639> So,<00:34:18.800> that<00:34:19.040> gets<00:34:19.280> into<00:34:20.079> different

34:20 repair. So, that gets into different repair. So, that gets into different areas<00:34:20.720> where<00:34:21.040> the<00:34:21.359> insulation<00:34:22.159> below<00:34:22.480> the areas where the insulation below the areas where the insulation below the existing<00:34:23.200> membrane<00:34:23.760> to<00:34:24.000> be<00:34:24.159> coated<00:34:25.040> is<00:34:25.359> not existing membrane to be coated is not existing membrane to be coated is not it’s<00:34:26.639> either<00:34:26.879> not<00:34:27.119> stable.<00:34:27.520> It's<00:34:27.679> like it’s either not stable. It’s like it’s either not stable. It’s like buckling,<00:34:28.560> billowing,<00:34:29.040> bowing,<00:34:29.520> or<00:34:30.159> wet.<00:34:31.119> So buckling, billowing, bowing, or wet. So buckling, billowing, bowing, or wet. So those<00:34:32.399> areas<00:34:32.879> where<00:34:33.119> we<00:34:33.359> have<00:34:33.440> to<00:34:33.599> go<00:34:33.679> in,<00:34:34.000> cut those areas where we have to go in, cut those areas where we have to go in, cut that<00:34:34.399> wet<00:34:34.720> insulation<00:34:35.280> out,<00:34:35.760> put<00:34:35.919> a<00:34:36.079> new that wet insulation out, put a new that wet insulation out, put a new membrane<00:34:36.879> down,<00:34:37.919> and<00:34:38.159> then<00:34:39.359> um<00:34:40.240> and<00:34:40.480> then<00:34:41.839> coat membrane down, and then um and then coat membrane down, and then um and then coat the<00:34:42.399> new<00:34:42.639> membrane<00:34:43.119> as<00:34:43.440> part<00:34:43.599> of<00:34:43.679> that<00:34:43.919> coating the new membrane as part of that coating the new membrane as part of that coating system. system. system. » And<00:34:46.480> then<00:34:46.960> everything<00:34:47.440> gets<00:34:47.760> it<00:34:48.320> on. » And then everything gets it on. » And then everything gets it on. » Yeah.<00:34:48.960> Right.<00:34:49.200> So<00:34:49.440> there's<00:34:49.919> specific<00:34:50.399> areas » Yeah. Right. So there’s specific areas » Yeah. Right. So there’s specific areas that<00:34:50.879> are<00:34:50.960> getting<00:34:51.200> repaired<00:34:52.079> then.<00:34:52.399> Yeah.<00:34:52.639> in that are getting repaired then. Yeah. in that are getting repaired then. Yeah. in order<00:34:53.119> to<00:34:53.359> create<00:34:53.679> a<00:34:54.399> an<00:34:54.639> acceptable order to create a an acceptable order to create a an acceptable substrate<00:34:56.560> system<00:34:56.879> because<00:34:57.200> even<00:34:57.440> with<00:34:57.599> the substrate system because even with the substrate system because even with the coating<00:34:58.720> that<00:34:58.880> we<00:34:59.119> still<00:34:59.280> need<00:34:59.440> to<00:34:59.599> meet coating that we still need to meet coating that we still need to meet minimum<00:35:00.640> you<00:35:00.800> know<00:35:00.960> code<00:35:01.280> criteria<00:35:01.839> like<00:35:02.000> we minimum you know code criteria like we minimum you know code criteria like we can’t<00:35:02.400> have<00:35:02.480> wet<00:35:02.720> insulation.<00:35:03.760> So,<00:35:04.400> um<00:35:04.800> that can’t have wet insulation. So, um that can’t have wet insulation. So, um that that’s<00:35:05.440> what<00:35:05.599> those<00:35:05.920> are.<00:35:06.240> And<00:35:07.200> it<00:35:07.440> is<00:35:07.760> there

35:07 that’s what those are. And it is there that’s what those are. And it is there are<00:35:08.160> a<00:35:08.320> few<00:35:08.480> larger<00:35:08.880> areas<00:35:09.920> on<00:35:10.160> this<00:35:10.400> roof<00:35:10.720> of are a few larger areas on this roof of are a few larger areas on this roof of that,<00:35:11.200> but<00:35:11.520> that's<00:35:11.839> part<00:35:12.079> of<00:35:12.160> the<00:35:12.400> cost that, but that’s part of the cost that, but that’s part of the cost analysis.<00:35:13.680> Um<00:35:14.400> is<00:35:14.640> that<00:35:15.119> we<00:35:15.359> still<00:35:15.599> haven't analysis. Um is that we still haven’t analysis. Um is that we still haven’t gotten<00:35:16.720> to,<00:35:17.119> you<00:35:17.280> know,<00:35:17.520> 30%<00:35:18.079> of<00:35:18.240> the<00:35:18.480> roofing gotten to, you know, 30% of the roofing gotten to, you know, 30% of the roofing area,<00:35:19.119> which<00:35:19.359> is<00:35:19.520> kind<00:35:19.680> of<00:35:19.760> this<00:35:20.720> threshold area, which is kind of this threshold area, which is kind of this threshold percentage<00:35:21.839> of<00:35:22.160> replacing<00:35:22.640> insulation<00:35:23.200> where percentage of replacing insulation where percentage of replacing insulation where then<00:35:23.599> it<00:35:23.920> comes<00:35:24.480> not<00:35:25.280> um<00:35:25.680> as<00:35:25.920> beneficial<00:35:26.640> for then it comes not um as beneficial for then it comes not um as beneficial for the<00:35:27.040> savings.<00:35:27.920> So,<00:35:28.079> we're<00:35:28.400> still<00:35:28.640> under<00:35:28.960> that. the savings. So, we’re still under that. the savings. So, we’re still under that. And<00:35:29.680> then<00:35:29.920> just<00:35:30.079> for<00:35:30.240> your<00:35:30.400> knowledge,<00:35:30.800> we've And then just for your knowledge, we’ve And then just for your knowledge, we’ve we’ve<00:35:31.680> also<00:35:32.000> carried<00:35:32.400> we've<00:35:32.640> shown<00:35:32.880> those<00:35:33.200> as we’ve also carried we’ve shown those as we’ve also carried we’ve shown those as specific<00:35:34.160> reference<00:35:34.560> areas,<00:35:35.040> but<00:35:35.520> really specific reference areas, but really specific reference areas, but really it’s<00:35:36.079> a<00:35:36.240> blanket<00:35:37.599> um<00:35:38.560> uh<00:35:38.880> 11,000<00:35:39.599> square<00:35:39.760> ft<00:35:40.000> of it’s a blanket um uh 11,000 square ft of it’s a blanket um uh 11,000 square ft of insulation<00:35:40.640> replacement<00:35:41.119> that<00:35:41.359> then<00:35:41.520> we<00:35:41.599> can insulation replacement that then we can insulation replacement that then we can get<00:35:41.839> a<00:35:42.000> credit<00:35:42.160> for<00:35:42.320> if<00:35:42.560> they<00:35:42.720> don't<00:35:42.880> use<00:35:43.119> it. » Does that help? » Does that help? » All right,<00:35:47.359> perfect.<00:35:48.079> It<00:35:48.240> does.<00:35:48.480> Yeah.<00:35:48.800> Thank » All right, perfect. It does. Yeah. Thank » All right, perfect. It does. Yeah. Thank you. you. you. » Uh<00:35:51.520> Mark,<00:35:51.839> do<00:35:52.000> you<00:35:52.079> want<00:35:52.160> to<00:35:52.240> come<00:35:52.400> back<00:35:52.480> to » Uh Mark, do you want to come back to » Uh Mark, do you want to come back to your<00:35:52.960> question<00:35:53.280> about<00:35:53.920> HBC?

35:54 your question about HBC? your question about HBC? » Yeah.<00:35:55.280> Yes.<00:35:55.599> Thank<00:35:55.760> you.<00:35:55.920> And<00:35:56.079> I'll<00:35:56.240> try<00:35:56.400> to<00:35:56.880> uh » Yeah. Yes. Thank you. And I’ll try to uh » Yeah. Yes. Thank you. And I’ll try to uh consolidate<00:35:57.760> it.<00:35:58.079> Um,<00:35:58.640> have<00:35:58.800> we<00:35:59.200> 100%<00:36:00.000> decided consolidate it. Um, have we 100% decided consolidate it. Um, have we 100% decided that<00:36:00.560> all<00:36:00.720> of<00:36:00.800> the<00:36:00.960> HVAC<00:36:01.680> is<00:36:01.920> being<00:36:02.240> replaced? that all of the HVAC is being replaced? that all of the HVAC is being replaced? » Yes. » Yes. » Yes. » Okay.<00:36:06.880> Um,<00:36:07.359> that<00:36:07.760> said,<00:36:08.640> uh,<00:36:08.800> as<00:36:09.040> a<00:36:09.200> potential » Okay. Um, that said, uh, as a potential » Okay. Um, that said, uh, as a potential cost<00:36:09.839> savings,<00:36:10.640> rather<00:36:11.040> than<00:36:11.359> replacing<00:36:11.839> all cost savings, rather than replacing all cost savings, rather than replacing all of<00:36:12.160> the<00:36:12.320> curbs<00:36:12.880> with,<00:36:13.680> you<00:36:13.839> know,<00:36:14.000> new<00:36:14.240> curbs of the curbs with, you know, new curbs of the curbs with, you know, new curbs and<00:36:14.800> new<00:36:15.040> PVC<00:36:15.520> membranes,<00:36:16.560> um,<00:36:16.800> could<00:36:17.040> we<00:36:17.200> not and new PVC membranes, um, could we not and new PVC membranes, um, could we not just<00:36:17.839> use,<00:36:18.800> um,<00:36:19.119> adapters<00:36:19.760> to<00:36:20.000> make<00:36:20.079> the<00:36:20.320> new just use, um, adapters to make the new just use, um, adapters to make the new rooftop<00:36:20.960> units<00:36:21.760> fit<00:36:22.240> into<00:36:22.560> the<00:36:23.040> existing rooftop units fit into the existing rooftop units fit into the existing curbs<00:36:23.920> and<00:36:24.079> then<00:36:24.320> recoat<00:36:24.800> those?<00:36:25.599> That's curbs and then recoat those? That’s curbs and then recoat those? That’s question<00:36:26.240> number<00:36:26.480> one.<00:36:26.720> Question<00:36:27.040> number question number one. Question number question number one. Question number two,<00:36:27.760> because<00:36:28.000> I<00:36:28.240> didn't<00:36:28.480> see<00:36:28.640> it<00:36:28.800> and<00:36:28.960> I<00:36:29.119> could two, because I didn’t see it and I could two, because I didn’t see it and I could have<00:36:29.440> missed<00:36:29.680> it.<00:36:30.400> Do<00:36:30.640> we<00:36:30.800> have<00:36:31.200> any<00:36:31.520> sort<00:36:31.760> of have missed it. Do we have any sort of have missed it. Do we have any sort of pres<00:36:32.560> provision<00:36:33.200> in<00:36:33.520> the<00:36:33.839> initial<00:36:34.240> estimates pres provision in the initial estimates pres provision in the initial estimates for<00:36:35.680> mold<00:36:36.079> treatment<00:36:36.560> when<00:36:36.800> the<00:36:36.960> wet<00:36:37.359> foam for mold treatment when the wet foam for mold treatment when the wet foam panels<00:36:38.240> are<00:36:38.480> removed?

36:46 » We do not have any contingency for mold » We do not have any contingency for mold treatment<00:36:46.480> when<00:36:46.800> they're<00:36:47.040> removed. treatment when they’re removed. treatment when they’re removed. » Okay,<00:36:48.640> that<00:36:48.880> that<00:36:49.440> is<00:36:49.599> a<00:36:49.839> likely<00:36:50.240> scenario<00:36:50.800> I » Okay, that that is a likely scenario I » Okay, that that is a likely scenario I would<00:36:51.200> say would say would say that<00:36:52.960> that<00:36:53.359> we<00:36:53.520> might<00:36:53.680> want<00:36:53.839> to<00:36:54.000> consider.

37:01 And then as far as the HVAC goes, is And then as far as the HVAC goes, is there<00:37:02.000> a<00:37:02.160> reason<00:37:02.320> we're<00:37:02.640> constructing<00:37:03.359> new there a reason we’re constructing new there a reason we’re constructing new curbs?<00:37:04.800> And<00:37:05.119> if<00:37:05.359> we<00:37:05.599> do<00:37:05.760> go<00:37:05.920> with<00:37:06.079> the<00:37:06.240> overlay curbs? And if we do go with the overlay curbs? And if we do go with the overlay method,<00:37:07.760> uh<00:37:08.000> my<00:37:08.640> goal<00:37:09.040> would<00:37:09.280> be<00:37:09.520> to<00:37:10.240> create<00:37:11.040> uh method, uh my goal would be to create uh method, uh my goal would be to create uh fewer<00:37:11.599> penetrations<00:37:12.880> uh<00:37:13.119> rather<00:37:13.440> than<00:37:13.599> more. fewer penetrations uh rather than more. fewer penetrations uh rather than more. So<00:37:14.240> why<00:37:14.480> not<00:37:14.640> just<00:37:14.880> use<00:37:15.040> an<00:37:15.280> adapter<00:37:15.760> to<00:37:16.240> to<00:37:16.720> fit So why not just use an adapter to to fit So why not just use an adapter to to fit the<00:37:17.280> new<00:37:17.520> rooftop<00:37:18.079> equipment<00:37:18.560> into<00:37:18.960> the the new rooftop equipment into the the new rooftop equipment into the existing<00:37:20.320> uh<00:37:20.480> curbs? Those are good questions, valid Those are good questions, valid questions.<00:37:27.839> Um,<00:37:28.560> we'd<00:37:28.960> have<00:37:29.040> to,<00:37:29.280> you<00:37:29.440> know, questions. Um, we’d have to, you know, questions. Um, we’d have to, you know, I’m<00:37:29.760> not,<00:37:30.720> we<00:37:31.040> don't<00:37:31.119> have<00:37:31.200> the<00:37:31.520> engineers<00:37:32.079> on I’m not, we don’t have the engineers on I’m not, we don’t have the engineers on our<00:37:33.680> call<00:37:34.000> right<00:37:34.160> now,<00:37:34.400> so<00:37:34.560> we'd<00:37:34.880> have<00:37:34.960> to<00:37:35.119> look our call right now, so we’d have to look our call right now, so we’d have to look into<00:37:35.520> that. into that. into that. » Okay.<00:37:36.560> I<00:37:36.800> just<00:37:36.960> see » Okay. I just see » Okay. I just see » I<00:37:37.760> can<00:37:37.920> jump<00:37:38.079> in<00:37:38.640> on<00:37:38.800> the<00:37:38.960> curbs<00:37:39.280> real<00:37:39.520> quick, » I can jump in on the curbs real quick, » I can jump in on the curbs real quick, just<00:37:40.000> to<00:37:40.079> offer<00:37:40.480> something. just to offer something. just to offer something. » Sure. » Sure. » Sure. » A<00:37:41.920> curb<00:37:42.240> adapter<00:37:43.040> would<00:37:43.440> be<00:37:43.680> roughly<00:37:44.000> the<00:37:44.160> same » A curb adapter would be roughly the same » A curb adapter would be roughly the same cost<00:37:44.480> as<00:37:44.720> a<00:37:44.880> new<00:37:45.040> curb<00:37:45.280> for<00:37:45.440> the<00:37:45.599> unit.<00:37:45.839> Anyway, cost as a new curb for the unit. Anyway, cost as a new curb for the unit. Anyway, if<00:37:46.800> there's<00:37:47.040> if<00:37:47.280> you're<00:37:47.440> talking<00:37:47.599> about

37:47 if there’s if you’re talking about if there’s if you’re talking about savings<00:37:48.079> on<00:37:48.240> the<00:37:48.400> roofing<00:37:48.720> side,<00:37:49.119> that's savings on the roofing side, that’s savings on the roofing side, that’s that’s<00:37:49.680> out<00:37:49.839> of<00:37:49.920> my<00:37:50.160> scope.<00:37:50.480> That's<00:37:50.640> possible. that’s out of my scope. That’s possible. that’s out of my scope. That’s possible. But,<00:37:52.079> um,<00:37:52.320> if<00:37:52.560> you're<00:37:52.640> going<00:37:52.720> to<00:37:52.800> buy<00:37:52.960> a<00:37:53.040> new But, um, if you’re going to buy a new But, um, if you’re going to buy a new curve<00:37:53.520> for<00:37:53.599> the<00:37:53.760> unit<00:37:53.920> or<00:37:54.079> a<00:37:54.240> curb<00:37:54.480> adapter, curve for the unit or a curb adapter, curve for the unit or a curb adapter, it’s<00:37:55.200> going<00:37:55.280> to<00:37:55.359> be<00:37:56.320> about<00:37:56.560> the<00:37:56.720> same<00:37:56.880> cost it’s going to be about the same cost it’s going to be about the same cost regardless, regardless, regardless, » right?<00:37:58.320> Yeah,<00:37:58.560> I<00:37:58.880> was<00:37:59.280> specifically » right? Yeah, I was specifically » right? Yeah, I was specifically mentioning<00:38:00.320> about<00:38:00.560> about<00:38:00.800> the<00:38:00.960> roofing,<00:38:01.440> but mentioning about about the roofing, but mentioning about about the roofing, but I<00:38:01.760> don't<00:38:02.000> I<00:38:02.240> don't<00:38:02.400> know<00:38:02.800> I<00:38:03.040> don't<00:38:03.280> have<00:38:03.440> any I don’t I don’t know I don’t have any I don’t I don’t know I don’t have any idea<00:38:04.640> what<00:38:04.880> that<00:38:05.119> savings<00:38:05.520> would<00:38:05.680> be,<00:38:05.839> so<00:38:06.000> it idea what that savings would be, so it idea what that savings would be, so it might<00:38:06.320> be<00:38:06.400> moot.<00:38:06.800> I<00:38:07.040> just<00:38:07.200> wanted<00:38:07.359> to<00:38:07.520> bring<00:38:07.680> it might be moot. I just wanted to bring it might be moot. I just wanted to bring it up<00:38:08.000> as<00:38:08.160> a<00:38:08.400> potential. up as a potential. up as a potential. » Yep. » Yep. » Yep. » Cool. » Cool. » Cool. » Thank<00:38:11.359> you.<00:38:12.000> And<00:38:12.320> part<00:38:12.560> of<00:38:12.640> the<00:38:13.359> again<00:38:13.680> I'm<00:38:13.920> not » Thank you. And part of the again I’m not » Thank you. And part of the again I’m not the<00:38:14.160> engineer<00:38:14.560> so<00:38:14.720> I<00:38:14.800> don't<00:38:14.960> want<00:38:15.040> to<00:38:15.119> speak the engineer so I don’t want to speak the engineer so I don’t want to speak for<00:38:15.760> them<00:38:16.079> but<00:38:16.320> part<00:38:16.560> of<00:38:16.640> the<00:38:16.800> intent<00:38:17.200> is<00:38:17.440> that for them but part of the intent is that for them but part of the intent is that you<00:38:18.079> know<00:38:18.160> the<00:38:18.480> HVAC<00:38:19.280> is<00:38:19.440> new<00:38:19.599> and<00:38:19.839> it's<00:38:20.000> going you know the HVAC is new and it’s going you know the HVAC is new and it’s going to<00:38:20.160> be<00:38:20.240> there<00:38:20.400> for<00:38:20.560> a<00:38:20.720> long<00:38:20.880> time.<00:38:21.119> So<00:38:21.359> putting to be there for a long time. So putting to be there for a long time. So putting them<00:38:21.760> on<00:38:21.920> new<00:38:22.400> new<00:38:22.800> freshly<00:38:23.200> insulated<00:38:23.839> curbs them on new new freshly insulated curbs them on new new freshly insulated curbs that<00:38:24.480> are<00:38:24.640> dry<00:38:24.880> and<00:38:25.119> we<00:38:25.200> know<00:38:25.280> that<00:38:25.520> they're<00:38:25.680> in that are dry and we know that they’re in that are dry and we know that they’re in good<00:38:26.000> condition<00:38:26.640> going<00:38:26.960> in. good condition going in. good condition going in. » Okay.<00:38:29.599> Yeah,<00:38:29.920> that's<00:38:30.079> that's<00:38:30.480> valid.<00:38:31.520> Thank » Okay. Yeah, that’s that’s valid. Thank » Okay. Yeah, that’s that’s valid. Thank you,

38:34 you, you, » Mike.<00:38:35.599> Just<00:38:35.920> a<00:38:36.000> really<00:38:36.320> quick<00:38:36.560> point<00:38:36.880> of » Mike. Just a really quick point of » Mike. Just a really quick point of clarification,<00:38:38.640> uh,<00:38:38.720> with<00:38:38.880> the<00:38:39.040> HVAC clarification, uh, with the HVAC clarification, uh, with the HVAC replacement,<00:38:41.200> um,<00:38:41.359> the<00:38:41.599> entire<00:38:41.920> building<00:38:42.240> is replacement, um, the entire building is replacement, um, the entire building is not<00:38:42.800> currently<00:38:43.760> designed<00:38:44.240> for<00:38:44.560> HVAC. not currently designed for HVAC. not currently designed for HVAC. And<00:38:46.480> if<00:38:46.720> it<00:38:46.880> wasn't<00:38:47.200> designed<00:38:47.599> originally,<00:38:48.240> it And if it wasn’t designed originally, it And if it wasn’t designed originally, it won’t<00:38:48.720> have<00:38:48.960> HVAC.<00:38:49.599> It<00:38:49.760> won't<00:38:49.920> have<00:38:50.079> the<00:38:50.240> AC won’t have HVAC. It won’t have the AC won’t have HVAC. It won’t have the AC portion<00:38:51.760> with<00:38:52.079> this<00:38:52.320> new<00:38:52.640> construction<00:38:53.119> or portion with this new construction or portion with this new construction or this<00:38:53.599> new.<00:38:54.079> So,<00:38:54.320> we're<00:38:54.480> not<00:38:54.640> making<00:38:54.800> the this new. So, we’re not making the this new. So, we’re not making the entire<00:38:55.280> building<00:38:55.520> HVAC.<00:38:56.079> I<00:38:56.160> just<00:38:56.240> want,<00:38:56.400> if entire building HVAC. I just want, if entire building HVAC. I just want, if anybody’s<00:38:56.960> listening<00:38:57.200> from<00:38:57.359> home,<00:38:57.520> they<00:38:57.920> Oh, anybody’s listening from home, they Oh, anybody’s listening from home, they Oh, great.<00:38:58.320> The<00:38:58.480> whole<00:38:58.560> building's<00:38:58.880> going<00:38:58.960> to<00:38:59.040> be great. The whole building’s going to be great. The whole building’s going to be AC.<00:38:59.680> That's<00:38:59.920> it<00:39:00.160> wasn't<00:39:00.400> designed<00:39:00.640> that<00:39:00.800> way AC. That’s it wasn’t designed that way AC. That’s it wasn’t designed that way originally.<00:39:01.280> in<00:39:01.520> this<00:39:01.680> plan<00:39:01.839> is<00:39:02.000> not<00:39:02.240> to originally. in this plan is not to originally. in this plan is not to provide<00:39:03.040> HVAC<00:39:03.599> to<00:39:03.760> areas<00:39:04.079> that<00:39:04.240> were<00:39:04.400> not provide HVAC to areas that were not provide HVAC to areas that were not originally<00:39:05.040> designed<00:39:05.359> for<00:39:05.520> it.<00:39:06.240> That<00:39:06.480> was<00:39:06.560> my originally designed for it. That was my originally designed for it. That was my point<00:39:06.960> of<00:39:07.119> clarification<00:39:07.599> for<00:39:07.839> anybody point of clarification for anybody point of clarification for anybody listening<00:39:08.400> at<00:39:08.560> home. listening at home. listening at home. » Yeah,<00:39:09.119> thanks<00:39:09.359> Mike.<00:39:09.680> That<00:39:09.839> helps.<00:39:10.560> Uh,<00:39:11.119> Lena. » Yeah, thanks Mike. That helps. Uh, Lena. » Yeah, thanks Mike. That helps. Uh, Lena. » Yep.<00:39:12.640> I<00:39:12.880> just<00:39:13.040> wanted<00:39:13.200> to<00:39:13.440> touch<00:39:13.680> up<00:39:13.839> on<00:39:14.320> um » Yep. I just wanted to touch up on um » Yep. I just wanted to touch up on um Mark’s<00:39:15.119> question<00:39:15.520> about<00:39:16.000> mold<00:39:16.640> um<00:39:16.880> mitigation Mark’s question about mold um mitigation Mark’s question about mold um mitigation and<00:39:17.839> just<00:39:18.560> state<00:39:18.800> that<00:39:19.040> although<00:39:19.680> u<00:39:19.760> that<00:39:20.000> was

39:20 and just state that although u that was and just state that although u that was not<00:39:20.320> included<00:39:20.560> in<00:39:20.720> the<00:39:20.880> estimate<00:39:21.200> or<00:39:21.520> the not included in the estimate or the not included in the estimate or the contractor’s<00:39:22.320> contract<00:39:23.359> uh<00:39:23.520> within<00:39:23.839> the contractor’s contract uh within the contractor’s contract uh within the total<00:39:24.400> project<00:39:24.720> budget<00:39:25.119> for<00:39:25.280> the<00:39:25.520> project total project budget for the project total project budget for the project there<00:39:26.240> is<00:39:26.400> a<00:39:26.560> line<00:39:26.720> item<00:39:27.200> outside<00:39:27.599> of<00:39:27.760> the there is a line item outside of the there is a line item outside of the contractor’s<00:39:28.560> contract<00:39:29.119> that<00:39:29.280> is<00:39:29.440> the<00:39:29.920> um contractor’s contract that is the um contractor’s contract that is the um owner’s<00:39:31.040> construction<00:39:31.520> contingency<00:39:32.240> which owner’s construction contingency which owner’s construction contingency which is<00:39:32.640> outside<00:39:32.960> of<00:39:33.119> the<00:39:33.280> contractor's<00:39:33.839> contract. is outside of the contractor’s contract. is outside of the contractor’s contract. So<00:39:34.560> if<00:39:34.720> there<00:39:34.880> were<00:39:35.119> things<00:39:35.359> like<00:39:35.520> molds<00:39:35.920> that So if there were things like molds that So if there were things like molds that came<00:39:36.240> up<00:39:36.400> for<00:39:36.640> unforeseen<00:39:37.359> happened<00:39:37.680> on<00:39:37.839> pro came up for unforeseen happened on pro came up for unforeseen happened on pro happen<00:39:38.400> on<00:39:38.640> projects<00:39:39.680> um<00:39:39.920> and<00:39:40.160> so<00:39:40.320> that<00:39:40.560> would happen on projects um and so that would happen on projects um and so that would that<00:39:41.200> would<00:39:41.359> be<00:39:41.440> a<00:39:41.680> potential<00:39:42.079> area<00:39:42.320> that<00:39:42.560> we that would be a potential area that we that would be a potential area that we could<00:39:43.280> um<00:39:43.680> you<00:39:43.839> know<00:39:44.000> pay<00:39:44.160> for<00:39:44.320> a<00:39:44.480> change<00:39:44.640> order could um you know pay for a change order could um you know pay for a change order from.<00:39:45.200> So<00:39:45.359> I<00:39:45.520> just<00:39:45.680> wanted<00:39:45.760> to<00:39:45.920> touch<00:39:46.000> upon from. So I just wanted to touch upon from. So I just wanted to touch upon that. that. that. » Thank<00:39:47.440> you. » Thank you. » Thank you. I<00:39:50.640> think<00:39:50.720> the<00:39:50.960> other<00:39:51.200> point<00:39:51.359> of<00:39:51.520> clarification I think the other point of clarification I think the other point of clarification for<00:39:52.960> the<00:39:53.200> decision<00:39:53.520> on<00:39:53.760> whether<00:39:54.000> we<00:39:54.160> go<00:39:54.800> one for the decision on whether we go one for the decision on whether we go one one<00:39:55.440> product<00:39:55.680> or<00:39:55.920> not<00:39:56.720> um<00:39:56.880> I<00:39:57.119> think<00:39:57.280> this one product or not um I think this one product or not um I think this committee<00:39:57.839> is<00:39:58.079> making<00:39:58.400> a<00:39:58.720> recommendation<00:39:59.920> to committee is making a recommendation to committee is making a recommendation to the<00:40:00.320> folk<00:40:00.640> school<00:40:00.880> committee<00:40:01.359> and<00:40:01.599> they<00:40:01.839> will the folk school committee and they will the folk school committee and they will ultimately<00:40:02.400> make<00:40:02.560> the<00:40:02.720> decision<00:40:02.960> if<00:40:03.119> I'm<00:40:03.280> if ultimately make the decision if I’m if ultimately make the decision if I’m if I’m<00:40:03.680> right<00:40:03.920> right<00:40:04.480> Henry

40:05 I’m right right Henry I’m right right Henry » yes<00:40:06.160> that's<00:40:06.560> that's<00:40:07.040> technically<00:40:07.599> going<00:40:07.839> to » yes that’s that’s technically going to » yes that’s that’s technically going to be<00:40:08.240> the<00:40:08.480> the<00:40:08.960> process<00:40:09.680> although<00:40:10.640> I<00:40:11.119> you<00:40:11.680> I<00:40:11.920> have be the the process although I you I have be the the process although I you I have no<00:40:12.240> indication<00:40:13.119> from<00:40:13.359> anyone<00:40:13.760> that<00:40:14.640> they no indication from anyone that they no indication from anyone that they wouldn’t<00:40:15.280> be<00:40:15.760> going<00:40:16.079> with<00:40:16.480> recommendation<00:40:17.040> I wouldn’t be going with recommendation I wouldn’t be going with recommendation I think<00:40:18.640> Yeah, think Yeah, think Yeah, » I<00:40:19.359> agree<00:40:19.680> totally.<00:40:20.079> I<00:40:20.240> just<00:40:20.400> want<00:40:20.480> to<00:40:20.560> make » I agree totally. I just want to make » I agree totally. I just want to make sure<00:40:20.800> that<00:40:20.960> it's<00:40:21.119> it's<00:40:21.520> not,<00:40:21.760> you<00:40:21.920> know,<00:40:22.000> this sure that it’s it’s not, you know, this sure that it’s it’s not, you know, this is<00:40:22.320> a<00:40:22.560> recommendation<00:40:23.680> uh<00:40:23.760> from<00:40:24.079> people<00:40:24.240> who is a recommendation uh from people who is a recommendation uh from people who have<00:40:25.119> spent<00:40:25.440> the<00:40:25.599> time<00:40:25.760> to<00:40:26.000> research<00:40:26.320> the have spent the time to research the have spent the time to research the products,<00:40:26.960> to<00:40:27.200> research<00:40:27.520> the<00:40:27.680> pricing,<00:40:28.079> to products, to research the pricing, to products, to research the pricing, to research<00:40:28.560> the<00:40:28.720> bids<00:40:29.680> uh<00:40:29.839> that<00:40:30.079> the<00:40:30.240> full research the bids uh that the full research the bids uh that the full school<00:40:30.720> committee<00:40:31.040> doesn't<00:40:31.359> have<00:40:31.440> the<00:40:31.680> time school committee doesn’t have the time school committee doesn’t have the time or<00:40:32.560> uh<00:40:32.720> expertise<00:40:33.280> to<00:40:33.440> do. or uh expertise to do. or uh expertise to do. » Correct.<00:40:35.280> And<00:40:35.440> then<00:40:35.760> and<00:40:35.920> then<00:40:36.079> of<00:40:36.160> course<00:40:36.320> it » Correct. And then and then of course it » Correct. And then and then of course it does<00:40:36.640> go<00:40:36.800> to<00:40:36.880> the<00:40:37.040> select<00:40:37.359> board<00:40:37.599> as<00:40:37.760> well.<00:40:38.000> So does go to the select board as well. So does go to the select board as well. So » uh<00:40:39.119> yeah,<00:40:39.440> but<00:40:39.599> I<00:40:39.760> don't<00:40:39.839> think<00:40:39.920> they<00:40:40.079> have<00:40:40.160> a<00:40:40.400> I » uh yeah, but I don’t think they have a I » uh yeah, but I don’t think they have a I think<00:40:40.800> they<00:40:40.960> they<00:40:41.280> vote think they they vote think they they vote » no<00:40:41.839> they<00:40:42.000> they<00:40:42.320> yes<00:40:42.560> or<00:40:42.720> no<00:40:43.119> our<00:40:43.599> decision. » no they they yes or no our decision. » no they they yes or no our decision. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. » Yeah.<00:40:45.440> So,<00:40:45.599> I'd<00:40:45.839> just<00:40:45.920> like<00:40:46.079> to<00:40:46.320> and<00:40:46.480> and » Yeah. So, I’d just like to and and » Yeah. So, I’d just like to and and perhaps<00:40:47.760> this<00:40:48.000> is<00:40:48.160> behind<00:40:48.400> the<00:40:48.560> scene perhaps this is behind the scene perhaps this is behind the scene planned.<00:40:49.200> I'd<00:40:49.440> like<00:40:49.599> to<00:40:50.560> put<00:40:50.800> meetings<00:40:51.200> for

40:51 planned. I’d like to put meetings for planned. I’d like to put meetings for those<00:40:51.680> dates<00:40:52.000> on<00:40:52.160> that<00:40:52.400> calendar.<00:40:53.359> Um<00:40:53.760> because those dates on that calendar. Um because those dates on that calendar. Um because part<00:40:54.560> part<00:40:55.119> of<00:40:55.359> getting<00:40:55.680> equipment<00:40:56.160> released part part of getting equipment released part part of getting equipment released and<00:40:57.359> sort<00:40:57.520> of<00:40:57.680> respecting<00:40:58.160> the<00:40:58.319> schedule<00:40:58.720> get and sort of respecting the schedule get and sort of respecting the schedule get that<00:40:59.040> gets<00:40:59.280> towards<00:40:59.599> next<00:40:59.839> summer<00:41:00.800> is<00:41:01.119> going that gets towards next summer is going that gets towards next summer is going to<00:41:01.440> be<00:41:01.599> that<00:41:01.839> we<00:41:02.319> try<00:41:02.560> to<00:41:02.800> consolidate<00:41:03.520> that to be that we try to consolidate that to be that we try to consolidate that series<00:41:04.480> of<00:41:04.720> approvals<00:41:05.280> as<00:41:05.520> quickly<00:41:05.760> as<00:41:06.000> we<00:41:06.160> can series of approvals as quickly as we can series of approvals as quickly as we can upon<00:41:06.880> receipt<00:41:07.200> of<00:41:07.280> the<00:41:07.440> bids. upon receipt of the bids. upon receipt of the bids. » Uh<00:41:09.040> thanks<00:41:09.359> Brent.<00:41:09.599> That's<00:41:09.839> a<00:41:10.000> great<00:41:10.160> point » Uh thanks Brent. That’s a great point » Uh thanks Brent. That’s a great point because<00:41:10.560> the<00:41:10.720> the<00:41:11.119> sort<00:41:11.359> of<00:41:11.440> final<00:41:11.760> thing<00:41:11.920> I because the the sort of final thing I because the the sort of final thing I wanted<00:41:12.319> to<00:41:12.480> bring<00:41:12.720> up<00:41:12.960> was<00:41:14.000> our<00:41:14.400> meeting wanted to bring up was our meeting wanted to bring up was our meeting schedule.<00:41:15.839> Uh<00:41:16.319> if<00:41:16.560> we<00:41:16.800> could<00:41:16.960> sort<00:41:17.119> of<00:41:17.280> set schedule. Uh if we could sort of set schedule. Uh if we could sort of set some<00:41:17.680> expectations,<00:41:18.480> particularly<00:41:18.880> knowing some expectations, particularly knowing some expectations, particularly knowing we’re<00:41:19.359> going<00:41:19.359> to<00:41:19.440> have<00:41:19.520> bid<00:41:19.839> documents<00:41:20.319> coming we’re going to have bid documents coming we’re going to have bid documents coming in<00:41:20.800> soon.<00:41:21.440> Um<00:41:22.319> you're<00:41:22.560> right.<00:41:22.800> We<00:41:23.520> if<00:41:23.920> if<00:41:24.319> we in soon. Um you’re right. We if if we in soon. Um you’re right. We if if we have<00:41:24.560> an<00:41:24.800> opportunity<00:41:25.200> to<00:41:25.440> move,<00:41:25.839> I<00:41:26.079> would have an opportunity to move, I would have an opportunity to move, I would like<00:41:26.400> to<00:41:26.560> have<00:41:26.720> that<00:41:26.960> that<00:41:27.440> meeting<00:41:28.240> scheduled like to have that that meeting scheduled like to have that that meeting scheduled and<00:41:29.040> ready<00:41:29.440> so<00:41:29.599> that,<00:41:29.839> you<00:41:30.000> know,<00:41:30.079> we<00:41:30.319> do<00:41:30.400> need and ready so that, you know, we do need and ready so that, you know, we do need to<00:41:31.040> we<00:41:31.280> don't<00:41:31.440> need<00:41:31.599> to,<00:41:31.760> but<00:41:32.079> we<00:41:32.240> should<00:41:32.319> be to we don’t need to, but we should be to we don’t need to, but we should be posting<00:41:32.880> 48<00:41:33.359> hours<00:41:33.599> notice<00:41:33.920> so<00:41:34.160> that<00:41:34.319> the posting 48 hours notice so that the posting 48 hours notice so that the public<00:41:34.720> can<00:41:34.960> join.<00:41:36.000> Um,<00:41:36.480> and<00:41:36.720> so<00:41:37.359> I<00:41:37.599> don't<00:41:37.760> I

41:37 public can join. Um, and so I don’t I public can join. Um, and so I don’t I don’t<00:41:38.160> want<00:41:38.240> that<00:41:38.480> delay<00:41:38.880> to<00:41:39.040> be<00:41:39.200> built<00:41:39.440> into don’t want that delay to be built into don’t want that delay to be built into our<00:41:40.720> project<00:41:41.119> timeline.<00:41:41.599> It<00:41:41.760> doesn't<00:41:41.920> make our project timeline. It doesn’t make our project timeline. It doesn’t make sense<00:41:42.240> to<00:41:42.480> me.<00:41:42.720> So,<00:41:43.200> um, sense to me. So, um, sense to me. So, um, » Henry,<00:41:44.160> am<00:41:44.319> I<00:41:44.640> am<00:41:44.720> I<00:41:44.880> right<00:41:45.119> that<00:41:45.359> the<00:41:45.520> school » Henry, am I am I right that the school » Henry, am I am I right that the school committee’s<00:41:46.160> meetings<00:41:46.480> in<00:41:46.640> November<00:41:46.960> would committee’s meetings in November would committee’s meetings in November would be<00:41:47.280> the<00:41:47.520> 6th<00:41:48.000> and<00:41:48.400> the<00:41:48.960> 20th? be the 6th and the 20th? be the 6th and the 20th? » I » I » I think<00:41:54.079> you're<00:41:54.400> right<00:41:54.640> about<00:41:54.880> that.<00:41:55.280> Uh, think you’re right about that. Uh, think you’re right about that. Uh, third, third, third, » the<00:41:56.240> first<00:41:56.560> usually<00:41:56.800> the<00:41:56.960> 1st<00:41:57.119> and<00:41:57.280> third. » the first usually the 1st and third. » the first usually the 1st and third. That’s<00:41:57.760> what<00:41:57.839> I'm<00:41:58.000> going<00:41:58.160> off<00:41:58.319> of.<00:41:58.560> I<00:41:58.720> don't That’s what I’m going off of. I don’t That’s what I’m going off of. I don’t have<00:41:59.040> the<00:41:59.359> the<00:41:59.599> calendar<00:41:59.920> in<00:42:00.079> front<00:42:00.160> of<00:42:00.319> me. have the the calendar in front of me. have the the calendar in front of me. » Yeah,<00:42:01.200> usually.<00:42:01.599> Yeah.<00:42:01.839> So,<00:42:02.000> usually<00:42:02.319> it<00:42:02.480> is » Yeah, usually. Yeah. So, usually it is » Yeah, usually. Yeah. So, usually it is the<00:42:03.119> the the the the the first<00:42:04.800> and<00:42:05.040> third.<00:42:05.440> I<00:42:05.760> can<00:42:05.839> get<00:42:06.000> that<00:42:06.560> I<00:42:06.800> can first and third. I can get that I can first and third. I can get that I can get<00:42:07.040> the<00:42:07.280> school<00:42:07.520> committee<00:42:07.920> meeting<00:42:08.880> um get the school committee meeting um get the school committee meeting um schedule schedule schedule out<00:42:11.440> to<00:42:11.680> everyone out to everyone out to everyone on<00:42:13.839> this<00:42:14.000> call<00:42:14.319> or<00:42:15.599> you<00:42:15.680> know<00:42:15.839> when<00:42:16.000> we're on this call or you know when we’re on this call or you know when we’re » I’m<00:42:16.400> just<00:42:16.480> thinking<00:42:16.800> I'm<00:42:16.960> just<00:42:17.040> thinking<00:42:17.200> that » I’m just thinking I’m just thinking that » I’m just thinking I’m just thinking that we’re<00:42:17.599> probably<00:42:17.839> going<00:42:17.920> to<00:42:18.000> want<00:42:18.079> to<00:42:18.240> have we’re probably going to want to have we’re probably going to want to have this<00:42:18.480> on<00:42:18.640> the<00:42:18.960> November<00:42:19.440> 6th<00:42:19.920> meeting<00:42:20.480> because this on the November 6th meeting because this on the November 6th meeting because then<00:42:21.040> we<00:42:21.200> need<00:42:21.280> to<00:42:21.359> get<00:42:21.520> the<00:42:21.680> select<00:42:22.000> board then we need to get the select board then we need to get the select board right<00:42:22.480> after<00:42:22.720> that<00:42:23.680> and<00:42:24.480> when<00:42:24.720> are<00:42:24.800> the<00:42:24.880> bids

42:25 right after that and when are the bids right after that and when are the bids when<00:42:25.280> are<00:42:25.359> the<00:42:25.440> bids<00:42:25.760> back<00:42:25.920> in<00:42:26.480> or<00:42:26.720> the<00:42:26.880> GC<00:42:27.280> bids when are the bids back in or the GC bids when are the bids back in or the GC bids back<00:42:27.760> in? back in? back in? » Yeah, » Yeah, » Yeah, » that<00:42:30.000> calendar<00:42:30.319> back<00:42:30.480> up. » that calendar back up. » that calendar back up. » Sure.<00:42:32.000> Yes,<00:42:32.400> absolutely.<00:42:32.720> And<00:42:32.880> Mike,<00:42:33.200> I<00:42:33.440> will » Sure. Yes, absolutely. And Mike, I will » Sure. Yes, absolutely. And Mike, I will point<00:42:33.760> out<00:42:33.920> that<00:42:34.160> if<00:42:34.319> if<00:42:34.720> we<00:42:35.040> need<00:42:35.200> to<00:42:35.520> ask<00:42:35.760> the point out that if if we need to ask the point out that if if we need to ask the full<00:42:36.319> school<00:42:36.640> committee<00:42:36.960> to<00:42:37.200> meet<00:42:37.440> for<00:42:37.680> a<00:42:37.920> one full school committee to meet for a one full school committee to meet for a one agenda<00:42:38.720> item<00:42:39.119> meeting,<00:42:39.839> I'm<00:42:40.079> happy<00:42:40.240> to agenda item meeting, I’m happy to agenda item meeting, I’m happy to schedule<00:42:40.720> that<00:42:40.960> whenever.<00:42:41.359> And<00:42:41.520> I<00:42:41.680> think<00:42:41.839> I schedule that whenever. And I think I schedule that whenever. And I think I think<00:42:42.240> any<00:42:42.560> anybody<00:42:42.960> else<00:42:43.040> on<00:42:43.280> the<00:42:43.440> school think any anybody else on the school think any anybody else on the school committee<00:42:43.920> would<00:42:44.400> agree.<00:42:44.960> So committee would agree. So committee would agree. So » I<00:42:45.280> think<00:42:45.440> the<00:42:45.680> two<00:42:45.839> Yeah.<00:42:46.079> Right.<00:42:46.560> So<00:42:47.119> GDC's » I think the two Yeah. Right. So GDC’s » I think the two Yeah. Right. So GDC’s back<00:42:48.000> on<00:42:48.079> the<00:42:48.240> 5th. back on the 5th. back on the 5th. » Yes.<00:42:49.599> Yep. » Yes. Yep. » Yes. Yep. » Okay.<00:42:50.560> So<00:42:50.720> if<00:42:50.880> they<00:42:50.960> come<00:42:51.119> back<00:42:51.280> on<00:42:51.359> the<00:42:51.520> 5th, » Okay. So if they come back on the 5th, » Okay. So if they come back on the 5th, we<00:42:51.920> would<00:42:52.079> have<00:42:52.160> to<00:42:52.240> have<00:42:52.319> a<00:42:52.400> subcommittee we would have to have a subcommittee we would have to have a subcommittee meeting<00:42:53.119> on<00:42:53.280> the<00:42:53.440> 6th<00:42:53.680> to<00:42:53.839> go<00:42:53.920> to<00:42:54.160> school meeting on the 6th to go to school meeting on the 6th to go to school committee<00:42:54.560> on<00:42:54.720> the<00:42:54.800> night<00:42:54.960> of<00:42:55.040> the<00:42:55.200> 6th<00:42:55.440> or committee on the night of the 6th or committee on the night of the 6th or schedule<00:42:56.000> another<00:42:56.319> school<00:42:56.480> committee schedule another school committee schedule another school committee meeting<00:42:56.960> for<00:42:57.200> maybe<00:42:57.359> the<00:42:57.599> the<00:42:57.920> 10th<00:42:58.160> or<00:42:58.319> 11th meeting for maybe the the 10th or 11th meeting for maybe the the 10th or 11th or<00:42:58.880> something. or something. or something. » Yep.<00:43:01.119> Let's<00:43:02.160> let's<00:43:02.640> plan<00:43:02.880> for<00:43:03.040> the<00:43:03.359> for<00:43:03.599> the » Yep. Let’s let’s plan for the for the » Yep. Let’s let’s plan for the for the night<00:43:03.920> of<00:43:04.079> the<00:43:04.240> 6th,<00:43:04.720> right?<00:43:05.200> Like<00:43:05.839> move night of the 6th, right? Like move night of the 6th, right? Like move quickly.<00:43:06.640> And<00:43:07.040> I<00:43:07.280> I'll<00:43:07.760> um quickly. And I I’ll um quickly. And I I’ll um I<00:43:10.319> I<00:43:10.640> will<00:43:10.800> be<00:43:10.880> sure<00:43:11.040> to<00:43:11.200> schedule<00:43:11.599> something

43:12 I I will be sure to schedule something I I will be sure to schedule something early<00:43:13.280> on<00:43:13.760> Thursday<00:43:14.319> the<00:43:14.560> 6th early on Thursday the 6th early on Thursday the 6th for<00:43:17.440> this<00:43:17.680> group. for this group. for this group. » So<00:43:18.480> Lena<00:43:18.880> and<00:43:19.040> and<00:43:19.280> Molly<00:43:19.680> and<00:43:19.920> Brian,<00:43:20.720> if<00:43:20.960> we » So Lena and and Molly and Brian, if we » So Lena and and Molly and Brian, if we get<00:43:21.200> them<00:43:21.359> in<00:43:21.520> on<00:43:21.599> the<00:43:21.760> 5th,<00:43:22.319> is<00:43:22.400> it<00:43:22.560> probably get them in on the 5th, is it probably get them in on the 5th, is it probably 10<00:43:22.960> a.m.<00:43:23.119> or<00:43:23.280> noon<00:43:23.520> time<00:43:23.680> or<00:43:23.920> something? 10 a.m. or noon time or something? 10 a.m. or noon time or something? » No.<00:43:25.040> Yeah,<00:43:25.200> it's<00:43:25.440> noon.<00:43:25.760> Yep. » No. Yeah, it’s noon. Yep. » No. Yeah, it’s noon. Yep. » Okay.<00:43:26.640> What<00:43:26.800> is<00:43:26.960> our<00:43:27.200> I<00:43:27.440> mean,<00:43:27.520> can<00:43:27.680> we<00:43:27.839> turn » Okay. What is our I mean, can we turn » Okay. What is our I mean, can we turn that<00:43:28.160> around? that around? that around? » Absolutely.<00:43:29.440> Absolutely.<00:43:30.240> um<00:43:30.400> we<00:43:30.560> can<00:43:30.720> go » Absolutely. Absolutely. um we can go » Absolutely. Absolutely. um we can go into<00:43:31.040> a<00:43:31.200> bubble<00:43:31.520> and<00:43:31.760> just<00:43:31.920> be<00:43:32.079> sure<00:43:32.240> that<00:43:32.560> so into a bubble and just be sure that so into a bubble and just be sure that so these<00:43:32.880> are<00:43:32.960> all<00:43:33.119> pre-qualified<00:43:33.839> biders.<00:43:34.480> Uh these are all pre-qualified biders. Uh these are all pre-qualified biders. Uh the<00:43:34.880> bids<00:43:35.119> are<00:43:35.280> coming<00:43:35.440> in<00:43:35.680> via<00:43:35.920> bid<00:43:36.160> dock.<00:43:36.480> So the bids are coming in via bid dock. So the bids are coming in via bid dock. So there<00:43:36.720> are<00:43:36.880> no<00:43:37.040> hard<00:43:37.280> copies<00:43:37.599> of<00:43:37.760> bids.<00:43:38.480> Uh<00:43:38.720> the there are no hard copies of bids. Uh the there are no hard copies of bids. Uh the review<00:43:39.280> is<00:43:39.520> really<00:43:39.680> the<00:43:39.920> mandatory review is really the mandatory review is really the mandatory requirements<00:43:41.119> and<00:43:41.359> ensuring<00:43:41.920> that<00:43:42.560> um requirements and ensuring that um requirements and ensuring that um contractors<00:43:44.000> did<00:43:44.240> not<00:43:44.400> receive<00:43:44.720> large contractors did not receive large contractors did not receive large projects<00:43:45.440> that<00:43:45.680> would<00:43:45.839> put<00:43:46.000> them<00:43:46.160> over<00:43:46.400> their projects that would put them over their projects that would put them over their um<00:43:47.119> capacity<00:43:47.520> to<00:43:47.760> complete.<00:43:48.160> So<00:43:48.319> that<00:43:48.560> can um capacity to complete. So that can um capacity to complete. So that can absolutely<00:43:49.200> be<00:43:49.359> done.<00:43:49.920> This<00:43:50.160> is<00:43:50.240> a<00:43:50.400> priority. absolutely be done. This is a priority. absolutely be done. This is a priority. And<00:43:51.200> so<00:43:51.520> yes,<00:43:51.760> we<00:43:52.000> would<00:43:52.079> be<00:43:52.240> ready<00:43:52.400> for<00:43:52.560> a And so yes, we would be ready for a And so yes, we would be ready for a meeting<00:43:52.880> on<00:43:53.119> the<00:43:53.280> 6th. meeting on the 6th. meeting on the 6th. Can<00:43:54.800> can<00:43:55.040> I<00:43:55.200> just<00:43:55.359> ask<00:43:55.760> is<00:43:55.920> it<00:43:56.160> realistic<00:43:56.720> that

43:57 Can can I just ask is it realistic that Can can I just ask is it realistic that we<00:43:57.680> will<00:43:58.079> actually<00:43:58.560> have<00:43:59.280> bids<00:44:00.160> two<00:44:00.400> weeks we will actually have bids two weeks we will actually have bids two weeks after<00:44:00.960> the<00:44:01.200> bidding<00:44:01.520> documents<00:44:02.000> are after the bidding documents are after the bidding documents are available<00:44:03.040> that<00:44:03.280> are<00:44:03.520> that<00:44:03.760> are<00:44:04.000> workable<00:44:04.960> um available that are that are workable um available that are that are workable um so<00:44:05.440> that<00:44:05.599> we<00:44:05.760> could<00:44:05.920> make<00:44:06.079> that<00:44:06.319> meeting<00:44:06.560> on so that we could make that meeting on so that we could make that meeting on the<00:44:06.960> 6th<00:44:07.280> or<00:44:07.440> should<00:44:07.599> we<00:44:07.920> back<00:44:08.160> it<00:44:08.319> up<00:44:08.400> to<00:44:08.560> the the 6th or should we back it up to the the 6th or should we back it up to the next<00:44:08.960> meeting<00:44:09.280> to<00:44:09.520> give<00:44:09.680> them<00:44:10.240> uh<00:44:10.800> some next meeting to give them uh some next meeting to give them uh some opportunity<00:44:11.680> to<00:44:12.079> ask<00:44:12.400> questions<00:44:12.960> and<00:44:13.599> and opportunity to ask questions and and opportunity to ask questions and and actually<00:44:14.319> put<00:44:14.480> together<00:44:14.800> something actually put together something actually put together something comprehensive? comprehensive? comprehensive? At<00:44:17.680> least<00:44:17.920> our<00:44:18.160> initial<00:44:18.560> thought<00:44:18.800> on<00:44:18.960> that, At least our initial thought on that, At least our initial thought on that, Mark,<00:44:19.760> was<00:44:20.240> that<00:44:21.280> um<00:44:21.599> for<00:44:21.920> now<00:44:22.400> we<00:44:22.720> would<00:44:22.880> like Mark, was that um for now we would like Mark, was that um for now we would like to<00:44:23.200> hold<00:44:23.440> this<00:44:23.760> schedule<00:44:24.640> understanding<00:44:25.119> that to hold this schedule understanding that to hold this schedule understanding that on<00:44:25.599> the<00:44:25.760> 15th<00:44:26.160> of<00:44:26.319> this<00:44:26.560> month<00:44:27.520> and<00:44:28.000> you<00:44:28.160> know on the 15th of this month and you know on the 15th of this month and you know through<00:44:28.640> probably<00:44:28.880> the<00:44:29.119> 24th<00:44:29.839> if<00:44:30.160> we<00:44:30.319> do<00:44:31.200> get<00:44:32.000> a through probably the 24th if we do get a through probably the 24th if we do get a lot<00:44:32.400> of<00:44:32.640> questions<00:44:33.359> or<00:44:33.760> questions<00:44:34.240> that<00:44:34.480> cause lot of questions or questions that cause lot of questions or questions that cause us<00:44:35.040> as<00:44:35.280> a<00:44:35.520> team<00:44:35.680> to<00:44:35.839> sort<00:44:36.000> of<00:44:36.160> step<00:44:36.400> back<00:44:36.560> and us as a team to sort of step back and us as a team to sort of step back and say,<00:44:37.520> you<00:44:37.680> know<00:44:37.680> what,<00:44:37.920> we<00:44:38.160> need<00:44:38.240> to<00:44:38.400> clarify say, you know what, we need to clarify say, you know what, we need to clarify this.<00:44:39.760> I<00:44:40.079> think<00:44:40.160> we'd<00:44:40.480> we'd<00:44:40.960> prefer<00:44:41.280> to<00:44:41.520> push this. I think we’d we’d prefer to push this. I think we’d we’d prefer to push it<00:44:41.920> back<00:44:42.160> on<00:44:42.319> the<00:44:42.560> fly.<00:44:42.880> I<00:44:43.200> know<00:44:43.280> that<00:44:44.000> means

44:44 it back on the fly. I know that means it back on the fly. I know that means we’d<00:44:44.560> have<00:44:44.800> might<00:44:44.960> have<00:44:45.119> to<00:44:45.280> plan<00:44:45.440> some<00:44:45.599> of we’d have might have to plan some of we’d have might have to plan some of these<00:44:45.920> meetings<00:44:46.160> in<00:44:46.400> November<00:44:46.800> to<00:44:47.040> to<00:44:47.440> be<00:44:47.520> able these meetings in November to to be able these meetings in November to to be able to<00:44:47.839> push<00:44:48.079> back,<00:44:48.400> but<00:44:49.119> we<00:44:49.359> would<00:44:50.400> we<00:44:50.800> think<00:44:51.839> with to push back, but we would we think with to push back, but we would we think with minimal<00:44:52.640> questions,<00:44:53.520> people<00:44:53.839> shouldn't<00:44:54.319> have minimal questions, people shouldn’t have minimal questions, people shouldn’t have a<00:44:55.119> problem<00:44:55.359> with<00:44:55.520> a<00:44:55.680> two-e<00:44:56.079> turnaround.<00:44:57.280> Um, a problem with a two-e turnaround. Um, a problem with a two-e turnaround. Um, and<00:44:58.640> the<00:44:58.800> questions<00:44:59.119> at<00:44:59.359> this<00:44:59.520> point<00:44:59.760> that and the questions at this point that and the questions at this point that might<00:45:00.240> cause<00:45:00.480> us<00:45:00.640> to<00:45:00.800> push<00:45:01.040> it<00:45:01.200> back<00:45:01.680> aren't might cause us to push it back aren’t might cause us to push it back aren’t stuff<00:45:02.240> we<00:45:02.480> can<00:45:02.640> foresee.<00:45:03.119> We<00:45:03.280> we<00:45:03.599> think<00:45:03.760> we're stuff we can foresee. We we think we’re stuff we can foresee. We we think we’re in<00:45:04.319> good<00:45:04.560> shape<00:45:05.359> to<00:45:05.680> achieve<00:45:06.319> this in good shape to achieve this in good shape to achieve this two<00:45:08.319> week<00:45:08.960> minimal<00:45:09.520> window<00:45:10.079> for<00:45:10.240> bidding.<00:45:10.720> But two week minimal window for bidding. But two week minimal window for bidding. But I<00:45:11.200> understand<00:45:11.520> where<00:45:11.680> you're<00:45:11.920> coming<00:45:12.079> from. I understand where you’re coming from. I understand where you’re coming from. » Yeah.<00:45:12.880> I<00:45:13.040> mean<00:45:13.200> my<00:45:13.520> my<00:45:14.400> I<00:45:14.640> recently<00:45:15.119> did<00:45:15.359> a<00:45:15.760> uh » Yeah. I mean my my I recently did a uh » Yeah. I mean my my I recently did a uh » a<00:45:17.359> um<00:45:17.839> like<00:45:18.079> a<00:45:18.319> major<00:45:18.720> proposal<00:45:19.599> or<00:45:19.760> I<00:45:19.920> was<00:45:20.000> a » a um like a major proposal or I was a » a um like a major proposal or I was a part<00:45:20.319> of<00:45:20.400> it<00:45:20.640> for<00:45:20.960> for<00:45:21.520> another<00:45:22.480> institutional part of it for for another institutional part of it for for another institutional building<00:45:23.599> locally<00:45:24.640> uh<00:45:24.720> for<00:45:24.880> a<00:45:25.040> heating<00:45:25.359> system building locally uh for a heating system building locally uh for a heating system and<00:45:26.319> it<00:45:26.560> took<00:45:26.800> us<00:45:27.200> 3<00:45:27.440> weeks<00:45:27.760> just<00:45:28.000> to<00:45:28.240> get<00:45:28.480> the and it took us 3 weeks just to get the and it took us 3 weeks just to get the manufacturer<00:45:29.520> of<00:45:29.680> the<00:45:29.920> equipment<00:45:30.480> to<00:45:31.599> uh<00:45:31.920> to

45:32 manufacturer of the equipment to uh to manufacturer of the equipment to uh to give<00:45:32.240> us<00:45:32.480> pricing<00:45:32.880> on<00:45:33.119> exactly<00:45:33.440> what<00:45:33.599> was give us pricing on exactly what was give us pricing on exactly what was specified. specified. specified. » Yep.<00:45:36.560> That's<00:45:36.800> the<00:45:37.040> type<00:45:37.200> of<00:45:37.359> thing<00:45:37.760> if<00:45:37.920> if<00:45:38.319> we » Yep. That’s the type of thing if if we » Yep. That’s the type of thing if if we start<00:45:38.800> hearing<00:45:39.680> on<00:45:39.920> the<00:45:40.079> 16th<00:45:40.560> and<00:45:40.800> 17th<00:45:41.359> that start hearing on the 16th and 17th that start hearing on the 16th and 17th that um<00:45:42.000> listen<00:45:42.319> guys,<00:45:42.560> with<00:45:42.720> your<00:45:42.880> bid<00:45:43.119> schedule, um listen guys, with your bid schedule, um listen guys, with your bid schedule, I’m<00:45:43.680> not<00:45:43.760> even<00:45:43.920> going<00:45:44.000> to<00:45:44.079> be<00:45:44.160> able<00:45:44.240> to<00:45:44.319> get<00:45:44.400> a I’m not even going to be able to get a I’m not even going to be able to get a real<00:45:44.720> quote<00:45:45.599> um<00:45:45.760> out<00:45:45.920> of<00:45:46.000> a<00:45:46.240> manufacturer, real quote um out of a manufacturer, real quote um out of a manufacturer, that<00:45:47.119> is<00:45:47.200> the<00:45:47.440> kind<00:45:47.599> of<00:45:47.680> thing<00:45:47.839> that<00:45:48.079> we<00:45:48.319> would that is the kind of thing that we would that is the kind of thing that we would make<00:45:49.040> the<00:45:49.280> command<00:45:49.680> decision<00:45:50.720> uh<00:45:50.880> probably<00:45:51.200> by make the command decision uh probably by make the command decision uh probably by the<00:45:51.680> 22nd<00:45:52.480> to<00:45:52.720> say,<00:45:52.960> let's<00:45:53.200> put<00:45:53.280> out<00:45:53.440> an<00:45:53.599> agenda the 22nd to say, let’s put out an agenda the 22nd to say, let’s put out an agenda and<00:45:54.079> push<00:45:54.240> this<00:45:54.480> all<00:45:54.640> back<00:45:54.800> a<00:45:55.040> week. and push this all back a week. and push this all back a week. » Okay,<00:45:56.079> fair<00:45:56.319> enough.<00:45:56.720> Thank<00:45:56.880> you. » Okay, fair enough. Thank you. » Okay, fair enough. Thank you. » And<00:45:58.319> I<00:45:58.480> just<00:45:58.640> want<00:45:58.720> to<00:45:58.880> be<00:45:59.040> clear<00:45:59.280> that<00:45:59.440> these » And I just want to be clear that these » And I just want to be clear that these are<00:46:00.319> Oh,<00:46:00.560> sorry.<00:46:00.800> I<00:46:00.880> just<00:46:01.040> want<00:46:01.119> to<00:46:01.200> be<00:46:01.359> clear are Oh, sorry. I just want to be clear are Oh, sorry. I just want to be clear that<00:46:01.680> these<00:46:02.240> drawings<00:46:02.720> are<00:46:03.040> hitting<00:46:03.280> the that these drawings are hitting the that these drawings are hitting the street<00:46:03.760> next<00:46:04.079> Wednesday.<00:46:04.800> That's<00:46:05.200> when street next Wednesday. That’s when street next Wednesday. That’s when they’re<00:46:05.760> being<00:46:05.920> published<00:46:06.319> or<00:46:06.480> the<00:46:06.800> the they’re being published or the the they’re being published or the the bidding<00:46:07.359> documents. bidding documents. bidding documents. » Yep. » Yep. » Yep. » Do<00:46:10.640> you<00:46:10.800> get<00:46:10.960> like<00:46:11.200> though<00:46:11.440> I<00:46:11.680> mean<00:46:11.760> I<00:46:11.920> agree » Do you get like though I mean I agree » Do you get like though I mean I agree with<00:46:12.240> what<00:46:12.400> Mark<00:46:12.560> is<00:46:12.720> saying<00:46:12.880> because<00:46:13.200> two with what Mark is saying because two with what Mark is saying because two weeks<00:46:14.000> that's<00:46:14.240> a<00:46:14.480> really<00:46:14.800> really<00:46:15.200> short weeks that’s a really really short weeks that’s a really really short amount<00:46:15.680> of<00:46:15.839> time<00:46:16.240> regardless<00:46:16.720> of<00:46:16.880> the<00:46:17.119> quality

46:17 amount of time regardless of the quality amount of time regardless of the quality of<00:46:17.680> the<00:46:17.760> the<00:46:18.160> drawings,<00:46:18.800> but<00:46:19.280> do<00:46:19.599> you<00:46:19.839> find<00:46:20.160> out of the the drawings, but do you find out of the the drawings, but do you find out right<00:46:21.040> away<00:46:21.280> if<00:46:21.520> they're<00:46:21.760> going<00:46:22.079> do<00:46:22.319> they right away if they’re going do they right away if they’re going do they accept<00:46:23.280> right<00:46:23.520> away<00:46:23.839> whether<00:46:24.079> or<00:46:24.240> not<00:46:24.319> they're accept right away whether or not they’re accept right away whether or not they’re going<00:46:24.720> to<00:46:24.880> bid?<00:46:25.760> Do<00:46:25.920> we<00:46:26.160> have<00:46:26.319> feedback<00:46:26.720> on going to bid? Do we have feedback on going to bid? Do we have feedback on who’s<00:46:27.359> going<00:46:27.440> to<00:46:27.599> bid?<00:46:27.760> because<00:46:28.000> I<00:46:28.400> my<00:46:28.880> other who’s going to bid? because I my other who’s going to bid? because I my other concern<00:46:29.359> is<00:46:29.599> if<00:46:29.760> you<00:46:29.920> might<00:46:30.160> lose<00:46:30.560> biders concern is if you might lose biders concern is if you might lose biders because<00:46:31.280> they<00:46:31.599> don't<00:46:31.760> have<00:46:31.920> time<00:46:32.079> to<00:46:32.319> get<00:46:32.400> it because they don’t have time to get it because they don’t have time to get it turned<00:46:32.880> around<00:46:33.040> in<00:46:33.280> two<00:46:33.440> weeks<00:46:33.680> and<00:46:33.760> they<00:46:34.000> just turned around in two weeks and they just turned around in two weeks and they just pass.<00:46:35.280> Um<00:46:36.079> but<00:46:36.319> do<00:46:36.480> you<00:46:36.640> find<00:46:36.800> that<00:46:37.040> will<00:46:37.280> they pass. Um but do you find that will they pass. Um but do you find that will they kind<00:46:37.680> of<00:46:37.760> check<00:46:37.920> the<00:46:38.160> yes<00:46:38.319> or<00:46:38.480> no?<00:46:38.640> Yes.<00:46:38.960> Yes,<00:46:39.200> I kind of check the yes or no? Yes. Yes, I kind of check the yes or no? Yes. Yes, I accept<00:46:39.599> this<00:46:39.760> RFP.<00:46:40.240> We<00:46:40.400> we're<00:46:40.640> planning<00:46:40.880> on accept this RFP. We we’re planning on accept this RFP. We we’re planning on bidding<00:46:41.440> type<00:46:41.680> of<00:46:42.079> uh<00:46:42.319> process. bidding type of uh process. bidding type of uh process. » I<00:46:43.680> can<00:46:43.839> provide<00:46:44.079> insight<00:46:44.400> on<00:46:44.560> that.<00:46:44.720> Um<00:46:44.960> that's » I can provide insight on that. Um that’s » I can provide insight on that. Um that’s a<00:46:45.359> good<00:46:45.520> question,<00:46:45.760> Karema.<00:46:46.720> So<00:46:47.280> um<00:46:47.520> I've a good question, Karema. So um I’ve a good question, Karema. So um I’ve personally<00:46:48.240> worked<00:46:48.400> with<00:46:48.560> a<00:46:48.720> lot<00:46:48.800> of<00:46:48.880> these<00:46:49.359> um personally worked with a lot of these um personally worked with a lot of these um pre-qualified<00:46:50.560> uh<00:46:50.800> contractors<00:46:51.839> and<00:46:52.240> so<00:46:52.720> you pre-qualified uh contractors and so you pre-qualified uh contractors and so you know<00:46:53.040> and<00:46:53.119> and<00:46:53.440> I'm<00:46:53.599> sure<00:46:53.760> Molly<00:46:54.079> and<00:46:54.319> Brian know and and I’m sure Molly and Brian know and and I’m sure Molly and Brian and<00:46:54.800> others<00:46:55.119> have<00:46:55.280> as<00:46:55.520> well.<00:46:55.920> And<00:46:56.160> so,<00:46:56.960> um, and others have as well. And so, um, and others have as well. And so, um, there<00:46:57.440> have<00:46:57.599> been<00:46:57.760> times<00:46:58.079> when,<00:46:58.400> you<00:46:58.480> know, there have been times when, you know, there have been times when, you know, I’ll<00:46:58.800> receive<00:46:59.040> a<00:46:59.200> direct<00:46:59.520> phone<00:46:59.680> call.<00:47:00.000> My I’ll receive a direct phone call. My I’ll receive a direct phone call. My email<00:47:00.480> is<00:47:00.720> listed<00:47:01.119> in<00:47:01.359> the,<00:47:01.839> um,<00:47:02.400> bidding

47:02 email is listed in the, um, bidding email is listed in the, um, bidding documents<00:47:03.119> as<00:47:03.359> all<00:47:03.599> questions<00:47:03.920> need<00:47:04.079> to<00:47:04.240> go<00:47:04.319> to documents as all questions need to go to documents as all questions need to go to me.<00:47:04.720> But<00:47:04.800> if<00:47:04.960> it's<00:47:05.119> if<00:47:05.359> it's<00:47:05.520> a<00:47:05.680> major<00:47:05.920> thing, me. But if it’s if it’s a major thing, me. But if it’s if it’s a major thing, I’ll<00:47:06.400> usually<00:47:06.720> receive<00:47:06.960> a<00:47:07.119> phone<00:47:07.359> call<00:47:07.599> from I’ll usually receive a phone call from I’ll usually receive a phone call from someone<00:47:08.079> and<00:47:08.319> they'll<00:47:08.480> just<00:47:08.560> say,<00:47:08.640> "Your someone and they’ll just say, “Your someone and they’ll just say, “Your bidding<00:47:09.200> schedule's<00:47:09.599> not,<00:47:10.000> you<00:47:10.160> know,<00:47:10.319> if<00:47:10.480> if bidding schedule’s not, you know, if if bidding schedule’s not, you know, if if what<00:47:10.960> someone<00:47:11.200> was<00:47:11.359> to<00:47:11.520> say,<00:47:11.680> your<00:47:12.079> bidding what someone was to say, your bidding what someone was to say, your bidding schedule<00:47:12.560> is<00:47:12.720> not<00:47:12.880> realistic,<00:47:13.760> you<00:47:13.920> know, schedule is not realistic, you know, schedule is not realistic, you know, that’s<00:47:14.240> when<00:47:14.480> we<00:47:14.720> really<00:47:14.880> would<00:47:15.280> start<00:47:15.520> to that’s when we really would start to that’s when we really would start to take<00:47:15.839> a<00:47:16.000> look<00:47:16.079> at<00:47:16.240> that."<00:47:16.560> I<00:47:16.800> think,<00:47:17.200> um, take a look at that.” I think, um, take a look at that.” I think, um, they’ve<00:47:18.000> all<00:47:18.319> all<00:47:18.480> of<00:47:18.640> the<00:47:18.720> pre-qualified they’ve all all of the pre-qualified they’ve all all of the pre-qualified biders<00:47:20.160> were<00:47:20.640> notified<00:47:21.200> that<00:47:21.440> the<00:47:21.680> bidding biders were notified that the bidding biders were notified that the bidding documents<00:47:22.720> are<00:47:22.960> coming<00:47:23.200> out<00:47:23.359> this<00:47:23.520> month. documents are coming out this month. documents are coming out this month. » Um,<00:47:24.640> yeah.<00:47:24.960> So,<00:47:25.119> and<00:47:25.280> and<00:47:25.760> um<00:47:25.839> the<00:47:26.079> good<00:47:26.240> thing » Um, yeah. So, and and um the good thing » Um, yeah. So, and and um the good thing is,<00:47:26.640> and<00:47:26.960> I'm<00:47:27.119> sure<00:47:27.359> you<00:47:27.599> know<00:47:27.680> this<00:47:27.839> and is, and I’m sure you know this and is, and I’m sure you know this and others<00:47:28.319> on<00:47:28.480> this<00:47:28.640> as<00:47:28.880> well,<00:47:29.200> um<00:47:29.680> that<00:47:30.240> this<00:47:30.480> is others on this as well, um that this is others on this as well, um that this is a<00:47:30.800> good<00:47:30.960> time<00:47:31.280> to<00:47:31.839> um<00:47:32.000> hit<00:47:32.160> the<00:47:32.400> street<00:47:32.640> for a good time to um hit the street for a good time to um hit the street for bids.<00:47:33.520> And<00:47:33.760> so,<00:47:34.480> um<00:47:34.800> yeah,<00:47:35.040> I<00:47:35.280> expect<00:47:35.680> Kareema bids. And so, um yeah, I expect Kareema bids. And so, um yeah, I expect Kareema that<00:47:36.319> they<00:47:36.480> would<00:47:36.640> reach<00:47:36.800> out<00:47:37.200> um<00:47:37.359> directly<00:47:38.000> to that they would reach out um directly to that they would reach out um directly to one<00:47:38.480> of<00:47:38.640> us<00:47:38.880> if<00:47:39.200> if<00:47:39.599> this<00:47:39.839> was<00:47:40.000> a<00:47:40.240> major<00:47:40.880> issue one of us if if this was a major issue one of us if if this was a major issue and<00:47:41.440> if<00:47:41.599> they<00:47:41.760> weren't<00:47:42.000> able<00:47:42.240> to<00:47:42.800> um<00:47:43.599> if<00:47:43.760> they and if they weren’t able to um if they and if they weren’t able to um if they weren’t<00:47:44.160> able<00:47:44.400> to<00:47:44.720> uh<00:47:44.880> meet<00:47:45.040> the<00:47:45.200> bidding weren’t able to uh meet the bidding weren’t able to uh meet the bidding schedule.<00:47:46.319> Um<00:47:46.560> I'm<00:47:46.800> sure<00:47:46.960> I'll<00:47:47.200> receive<00:47:47.680> I

47:47 schedule. Um I’m sure I’ll receive I schedule. Um I’m sure I’ll receive I would<00:47:48.079> receive<00:47:48.400> emails<00:47:48.800> as<00:47:48.960> well,<00:47:49.119> but<00:47:49.520> um<00:47:49.599> I would receive emails as well, but um I would receive emails as well, but um I would<00:47:49.920> expect<00:47:50.319> phone<00:47:50.560> calls<00:47:50.720> if<00:47:50.960> if<00:47:51.200> that<00:47:51.440> was would expect phone calls if if that was would expect phone calls if if that was a<00:47:51.680> major<00:47:51.920> issue. a major issue. a major issue. » Yep.<00:47:52.880> We<00:47:53.040> we<00:47:53.359> can<00:47:53.440> put<00:47:53.599> out<00:47:53.760> some<00:47:53.920> feelers.<00:47:54.400> And » Yep. We we can put out some feelers. And » Yep. We we can put out some feelers. And one<00:47:54.720> of<00:47:54.800> the<00:47:54.960> benefits<00:47:55.200> of<00:47:55.440> using<00:47:55.680> bid<00:47:56.000> docs<00:47:56.319> is one of the benefits of using bid docs is one of the benefits of using bid docs is like<00:47:57.599> we've<00:47:58.000> had<00:47:58.319> some<00:47:58.560> bids<00:47:59.359> recently<00:47:59.760> on<00:48:00.000> a like we’ve had some bids recently on a like we’ve had some bids recently on a separate<00:48:00.400> project<00:48:00.960> where<00:48:01.920> after<00:48:02.240> two<00:48:02.400> or separate project where after two or separate project where after two or three<00:48:02.800> days<00:48:03.040> there<00:48:03.200> were<00:48:03.359> no<00:48:03.520> plan<00:48:03.760> holders. three days there were no plan holders. three days there were no plan holders. You<00:48:04.319> can<00:48:04.480> tell<00:48:04.720> when<00:48:04.960> someone's<00:48:05.280> a<00:48:05.440> plan You can tell when someone’s a plan You can tell when someone’s a plan holder<00:48:06.079> on<00:48:06.319> on<00:48:06.640> bid<00:48:06.960> docs<00:48:07.280> online<00:48:07.599> and<00:48:08.079> that holder on on bid docs online and that holder on on bid docs online and that caused<00:48:08.880> me<00:48:09.040> to<00:48:09.200> make<00:48:09.359> some<00:48:09.599> phone<00:48:09.760> calls<00:48:10.560> um caused me to make some phone calls um caused me to make some phone calls um and<00:48:11.680> within<00:48:11.920> a<00:48:12.079> day<00:48:12.160> or<00:48:12.319> so<00:48:12.480> there<00:48:12.560> were<00:48:12.640> a and within a day or so there were a and within a day or so there were a bunch<00:48:12.800> of<00:48:12.880> plan<00:48:13.119> holders.<00:48:13.520> But<00:48:13.680> like<00:48:13.839> so<00:48:14.000> we'll bunch of plan holders. But like so we’ll bunch of plan holders. But like so we’ll be<00:48:14.319> able<00:48:14.480> to<00:48:14.640> sort<00:48:14.800> of<00:48:14.880> put<00:48:15.040> out<00:48:15.200> some<00:48:15.440> feelers be able to sort of put out some feelers be able to sort of put out some feelers for<00:48:16.000> that<00:48:16.240> and<00:48:16.640> uh<00:48:17.440> and<00:48:17.760> get<00:48:17.920> some<00:48:18.079> instant for that and uh and get some instant for that and uh and get some instant feedback.<00:48:18.880> Again,<00:48:19.200> if<00:48:19.440> what<00:48:19.599> we're<00:48:19.680> hearing feedback. Again, if what we’re hearing feedback. Again, if what we’re hearing on<00:48:20.160> the<00:48:20.240> 16th,<00:48:20.720> 17th<00:48:21.200> into<00:48:21.520> the<00:48:21.680> walkth on the 16th, 17th into the walkth on the 16th, 17th into the walkth through<00:48:22.319> is<00:48:23.040> this<00:48:23.280> is<00:48:23.440> not<00:48:23.680> enough<00:48:24.000> time,<00:48:24.800> then through is this is not enough time, then through is this is not enough time, then we<00:48:25.280> will<00:48:25.520> pretty<00:48:25.760> quickly<00:48:26.160> most<00:48:26.559> I<00:48:26.720> think<00:48:26.880> the we will pretty quickly most I think the we will pretty quickly most I think the 22nd<00:48:27.839> of<00:48:28.000> October<00:48:28.400> is<00:48:28.559> the<00:48:28.960> sort<00:48:29.119> of<00:48:29.280> decision 22nd of October is the sort of decision 22nd of October is the sort of decision point<00:48:29.920> of<00:48:30.720> do<00:48:30.880> we<00:48:31.040> push<00:48:31.280> it<00:48:31.440> back<00:48:31.599> then?<00:48:31.920> Do<00:48:32.079> we point of do we push it back then? Do we point of do we push it back then? Do we push<00:48:32.800> everything<00:48:33.200> back<00:48:33.440> to<00:48:33.760> bids<00:48:34.160> due<00:48:34.400> the<00:48:34.640> 5th

48:34 push everything back to bids due the 5th push everything back to bids due the 5th and<00:48:35.040> the<00:48:35.200> 12th<00:48:35.599> or<00:48:35.839> the<00:48:36.000> 12th<00:48:36.240> and<00:48:36.400> the<00:48:36.640> 19th? and the 12th or the 12th and the 19th? and the 12th or the 12th and the 19th? But<00:48:38.000> there's<00:48:38.319> a<00:48:38.480> little<00:48:38.559> bit<00:48:38.720> of<00:48:38.800> a<00:48:39.040> dance<00:48:39.280> in But there’s a little bit of a dance in But there’s a little bit of a dance in how<00:48:39.680> much<00:48:39.839> time<00:48:40.000> to<00:48:40.240> give<00:48:40.480> there. how much time to give there. how much time to give there. understanding<00:48:41.599> where<00:48:41.839> we<00:48:42.000> started<00:48:42.319> this understanding where we started this understanding where we started this discussion<00:48:42.960> of<00:48:44.160> right<00:48:44.400> now<00:48:44.480> on<00:48:44.800> this<00:48:44.960> calendar discussion of right now on this calendar discussion of right now on this calendar we<00:48:45.920> receive<00:48:46.160> bids<00:48:46.480> on<00:48:46.559> the<00:48:46.720> 5th<00:48:46.960> and<00:48:47.119> by<00:48:47.280> the we receive bids on the 5th and by the we receive bids on the 5th and by the 14th<00:48:47.839> we<00:48:48.079> need<00:48:48.160> all<00:48:48.319> the<00:48:48.480> committee<00:48:48.800> approvals 14th we need all the committee approvals 14th we need all the committee approvals that<00:48:50.079> we<00:48:50.319> need<00:48:50.480> to<00:48:50.640> award<00:48:50.960> it.<00:48:51.200> So<00:48:51.599> what<00:48:51.760> I<00:48:51.920> want that we need to award it. So what I want that we need to award it. So what I want to<00:48:52.160> try<00:48:52.319> to<00:48:52.480> avoid<00:48:52.960> is<00:48:53.359> a<00:48:53.680> little<00:48:54.319> more<00:48:54.640> weeks to try to avoid is a little more weeks to try to avoid is a little more weeks on<00:48:55.119> the<00:48:55.280> front<00:48:55.440> end<00:48:55.920> and<00:48:56.240> more<00:48:56.480> weeks<00:48:56.720> on<00:48:56.880> the on the front end and more weeks on the on the front end and more weeks on the back<00:48:57.280> end<00:48:58.000> that<00:48:58.319> push<00:48:58.559> that<00:48:58.720> award<00:48:59.119> date<00:48:59.440> back back end that push that award date back back end that push that award date back because<00:49:00.240> both<00:49:00.480> of<00:49:00.559> those<00:49:00.800> will<00:49:00.960> eat<00:49:01.200> out<00:49:01.280> of because both of those will eat out of because both of those will eat out of lead<00:49:01.760> times<00:49:02.160> for<00:49:02.400> the<00:49:03.119> for<00:49:03.359> the<00:49:03.520> equipment. lead times for the for the equipment. lead times for the for the equipment. So,<00:49:04.559> completely<00:49:05.040> understand,<00:49:05.599> but<00:49:06.160> we'd<00:49:06.480> like So, completely understand, but we’d like So, completely understand, but we’d like to<00:49:06.880> sort<00:49:07.040> of<00:49:07.359> um<00:49:07.839> play<00:49:08.079> it<00:49:08.240> on<00:49:08.480> the<00:49:08.640> fly<00:49:08.960> between to sort of um play it on the fly between to sort of um play it on the fly between the<00:49:09.520> 15th<00:49:09.920> and<00:49:10.160> call<00:49:10.319> it<00:49:10.480> the<00:49:10.640> 22nd<00:49:11.440> and<00:49:11.680> decide the 15th and call it the 22nd and decide the 15th and call it the 22nd and decide if<00:49:12.240> we<00:49:12.400> need<00:49:12.480> to<00:49:12.640> push<00:49:12.880> back.<00:49:14.000> And<00:49:14.160> on<00:49:14.319> the if we need to push back. And on the if we need to push back. And on the other<00:49:14.640> side,<00:49:15.200> have<00:49:15.440> the<00:49:15.599> meetings<00:49:16.000> lined<00:49:16.319> up other side, have the meetings lined up other side, have the meetings lined up if<00:49:17.200> pretending<00:49:17.680> the<00:49:17.839> fifth<00:49:18.160> is<00:49:18.319> going<00:49:18.400> to<00:49:18.480> work if pretending the fifth is going to work if pretending the fifth is going to work until<00:49:18.960> we're<00:49:19.200> another<00:49:19.440> week<00:49:19.599> or<00:49:19.760> two<00:49:19.920> into

49:20 until we’re another week or two into until we’re another week or two into this. this. this. » Uh<00:49:22.720> I<00:49:22.960> have<00:49:23.119> one<00:49:23.440> comment.<00:49:24.079> I<00:49:24.319> just<00:49:24.480> looked<00:49:24.640> at » Uh I have one comment. I just looked at » Uh I have one comment. I just looked at the<00:49:24.880> roofing<00:49:25.200> drawings<00:49:25.920> and<00:49:26.640> uh<00:49:26.800> when<00:49:27.599> did the roofing drawings and uh when did the roofing drawings and uh when did they<00:49:28.079> do<00:49:28.319> a<00:49:28.559> second<00:49:28.960> IR<00:49:29.440> scan they do a second IR scan they do a second IR scan » on<00:49:31.760> the<00:49:31.839> roof? » on the roof? » on the roof? » Yes.<00:49:33.359> My<00:49:33.680> recommendation<00:49:34.240> is<00:49:34.480> whenever<00:49:34.880> we've » Yes. My recommendation is whenever we’ve » Yes. My recommendation is whenever we’ve done<00:49:35.280> these<00:49:35.680> type<00:49:35.920> of<00:49:36.079> work<00:49:36.400> is<00:49:36.640> to<00:49:37.359> um done these type of work is to um done these type of work is to um indicate<00:49:38.400> the<00:49:38.640> areas<00:49:39.040> where<00:49:39.359> we<00:49:39.680> found<00:49:39.920> wet indicate the areas where we found wet indicate the areas where we found wet insulation<00:49:41.680> because<00:49:42.079> otherwise<00:49:42.640> the insulation because otherwise the insulation because otherwise the contractor<00:49:43.200> is<00:49:43.440> going<00:49:43.599> to<00:49:43.760> go<00:49:44.160> you<00:49:44.319> know<00:49:44.720> gang contractor is going to go you know gang contractor is going to go you know gang busters<00:49:45.680> to<00:49:46.000> do<00:49:46.160> the<00:49:46.319> work. busters to do the work. busters to do the work. » We<00:49:46.960> do<00:49:47.200> have<00:49:47.359> those<00:49:48.160> identified<00:49:49.119> on<00:49:49.599> uh<00:49:50.160> and » We do have those identified on uh and » We do have those identified on uh and then<00:49:50.559> and<00:49:50.800> then<00:49:51.040> in<00:49:51.280> the<00:49:51.520> last<00:49:51.680> week<00:49:51.920> we've then and then in the last week we’ve then and then in the last week we’ve cross-cheed<00:49:52.880> them<00:49:53.040> against<00:49:53.359> the<00:49:53.760> new<00:49:54.000> IR cross-cheed them against the new IR cross-cheed them against the new IR scan. scan. scan. » Okay.<00:49:55.680> It<00:49:55.839> should<00:49:56.079> be<00:49:56.240> on<00:49:56.480> sheet.<00:49:56.800> Uh<00:49:56.960> I<00:49:57.119> don't » Okay. It should be on sheet. Uh I don’t » Okay. It should be on sheet. Uh I don’t know<00:49:57.280> the<00:49:57.520> number<00:49:57.680> off<00:49:57.839> the<00:49:57.920> top<00:49:58.000> of<00:49:58.079> my<00:49:58.240> head, know the number off the top of my head, know the number off the top of my head, but<00:49:58.559> it's<00:49:58.720> the<00:49:59.359> existing<00:50:00.000> conditions. but it’s the existing conditions. but it’s the existing conditions. Um<00:50:01.920> demolition<00:50:02.480> plan<00:50:02.640> is<00:50:02.800> what<00:50:02.960> it<00:50:03.040> might<00:50:03.200> be Um demolition plan is what it might be Um demolition plan is what it might be labeled<00:50:03.520> on<00:50:03.760> your<00:50:03.920> end,<00:50:04.160> but<00:50:04.400> it<00:50:04.640> might<00:50:04.800> be<00:50:05.359> um

50:05 labeled on your end, but it might be um labeled on your end, but it might be um when<00:50:05.839> we've<00:50:06.160> updated<00:50:06.480> it<00:50:06.720> to<00:50:06.880> like<00:50:07.119> substrate when we’ve updated it to like substrate when we’ve updated it to like substrate repair<00:50:08.079> plan.<00:50:08.960> So<00:50:09.200> those<00:50:09.440> areas<00:50:09.760> are<00:50:10.000> shown<00:50:10.160> on repair plan. So those areas are shown on repair plan. So those areas are shown on the<00:50:10.559> existing,<00:50:10.880> but<00:50:11.119> not<00:50:11.280> in<00:50:11.440> the<00:50:11.599> new<00:50:11.839> plan. the existing, but not in the new plan. the existing, but not in the new plan. » A101<00:50:13.280> probably. » A101 probably. » A101 probably. » A<00:50:14.400> 101.<00:50:15.040> Okay,<00:50:15.520> I<00:50:15.760> see.<00:50:16.079> Okay.<00:50:16.720> Um<00:50:17.119> and<00:50:17.359> then<00:50:17.680> do » A 101. Okay, I see. Okay. Um and then do » A 101. Okay, I see. Okay. Um and then do we<00:50:18.160> have<00:50:18.480> results<00:50:18.800> of<00:50:19.040> the<00:50:19.200> test<00:50:19.440> cuts we have results of the test cuts we have results of the test cuts somewhere<00:50:20.640> on<00:50:20.800> the<00:50:20.960> drawings? somewhere on the drawings? somewhere on the drawings? » So<00:50:22.559> because<00:50:22.880> you<00:50:22.960> know<00:50:23.119> there's<00:50:23.359> tapered » So because you know there’s tapered » So because you know there’s tapered insulation,<00:50:24.240> right?<00:50:24.559> So,<00:50:25.359> do<00:50:25.599> we<00:50:25.760> need<00:50:25.839> to insulation, right? So, do we need to insulation, right? So, do we need to show<00:50:26.319> that show that show that the<00:50:28.079> thicknesses<00:50:28.559> of<00:50:28.720> the<00:50:28.800> insulation?<00:50:29.440> Do<00:50:29.599> we the thicknesses of the insulation? Do we the thicknesses of the insulation? Do we have<00:50:30.079> uh<00:50:30.240> test<00:50:30.480> cut<00:50:31.280> locations? have uh test cut locations? have uh test cut locations? » We<00:50:32.240> don't.<00:50:32.400> I<00:50:32.559> think<00:50:32.640> we'd<00:50:32.880> have<00:50:32.960> to<00:50:33.200> talk » We don’t. I think we’d have to talk » We don’t. I think we’d have to talk about<00:50:33.520> that<00:50:33.760> offline. about that offline. about that offline. » Okay,<00:50:34.800> if<00:50:34.960> that's<00:50:35.119> okay. » Okay, if that’s okay. » Okay, if that’s okay. » Um,<00:50:35.680> yeah.<00:50:35.839> No,<00:50:36.079> absolutely.<00:50:36.640> I,<00:50:37.040> you<00:50:37.200> know, » Um, yeah. No, absolutely. I, you know, » Um, yeah. No, absolutely. I, you know, what<00:50:38.800> I'll<00:50:39.040> try<00:50:39.119> and<00:50:39.280> do<00:50:39.440> is<00:50:39.599> try<00:50:39.760> and<00:50:39.920> review what I’ll try and do is try and review what I’ll try and do is try and review that<00:50:40.559> and<00:50:40.960> get<00:50:41.119> you<00:50:41.359> some<00:50:41.520> comments<00:50:42.000> back<00:50:42.319> on that and get you some comments back on that and get you some comments back on the<00:50:42.720> drawings<00:50:43.200> in<00:50:43.440> the<00:50:43.599> next<00:50:44.480> 48<00:50:44.960> hours<00:50:46.319> so the drawings in the next 48 hours so the drawings in the next 48 hours so that,<00:50:47.040> you<00:50:47.200> know,<00:50:47.440> just<00:50:47.680> just<00:50:47.920> to<00:50:48.160> give<00:50:48.319> you that, you know, just just to give you that, you know, just just to give you some<00:50:48.640> feedback.

50:58 Okay, good. Well, um Brian, sort of in Okay, good. Well, um Brian, sort of in the<00:50:58.480> spirit<00:50:58.720> of<00:50:58.960> keeping<00:50:59.760> um<00:51:00.800> our<00:51:01.119> timelines the spirit of keeping um our timelines the spirit of keeping um our timelines on<00:51:01.920> I<00:51:02.079> am<00:51:02.319> going<00:51:02.559> to<00:51:03.839> say<00:51:04.000> that<00:51:04.160> we're on I am going to say that we’re on I am going to say that we’re tentatively<00:51:05.359> scheduled<00:51:06.319> to<00:51:06.640> meet<00:51:07.200> on tentatively scheduled to meet on tentatively scheduled to meet on November<00:51:08.079> 6th<00:51:08.640> as<00:51:08.960> this<00:51:09.200> group<00:51:09.599> and<00:51:09.839> then November 6th as this group and then November 6th as this group and then report<00:51:11.119> I'll<00:51:11.440> report<00:51:11.680> later<00:51:11.920> that<00:51:12.240> evening<00:51:12.559> to report I’ll report later that evening to report I’ll report later that evening to the<00:51:13.359> um<00:51:14.160> to<00:51:14.319> the<00:51:14.559> school<00:51:14.720> committee<00:51:15.040> for<00:51:15.200> a the um to the school committee for a the um to the school committee for a decision.<00:51:16.480> I<00:51:16.800> think<00:51:16.880> if<00:51:17.200> we<00:51:17.440> have<00:51:17.680> to<00:51:17.920> adjust decision. I think if we have to adjust decision. I think if we have to adjust things,<00:51:19.680> let's<00:51:20.079> still<00:51:20.400> consider<00:51:20.880> that<00:51:21.280> 14th things, let’s still consider that 14th things, let’s still consider that 14th to<00:51:22.079> be<00:51:22.480> sort<00:51:22.720> of<00:51:22.800> the<00:51:23.119> drop<00:51:23.440> dead<00:51:23.839> date<00:51:24.160> and<00:51:24.480> see to be sort of the drop dead date and see to be sort of the drop dead date and see how<00:51:25.760> much<00:51:26.079> scrambling<00:51:26.559> we<00:51:26.800> can<00:51:26.960> do<00:51:27.040> on<00:51:27.280> these how much scrambling we can do on these how much scrambling we can do on these committees<00:51:27.839> to<00:51:28.079> make<00:51:28.160> a<00:51:28.400> decision.<00:51:29.440> Um,<00:51:30.000> Mike committees to make a decision. Um, Mike committees to make a decision. Um, Mike Velgy,<00:51:30.800> I<00:51:30.960> will<00:51:31.200> invite<00:51:31.520> you<00:51:31.680> to<00:51:31.920> that<00:51:32.400> meeting Velgy, I will invite you to that meeting Velgy, I will invite you to that meeting on<00:51:32.880> the<00:51:33.040> 6th<00:51:33.520> because<00:51:33.760> I<00:51:34.000> think<00:51:34.160> it's<00:51:34.400> going<00:51:34.480> to on the 6th because I think it’s going to on the 6th because I think it’s going to be<00:51:34.800> valuable<00:51:35.119> to<00:51:35.280> have<00:51:35.359> your<00:51:35.599> input<00:51:35.839> on<00:51:36.000> those be valuable to have your input on those be valuable to have your input on those documents.<00:51:37.440> Um,<00:51:38.640> and<00:51:40.000> uh,<00:51:40.160> if<00:51:40.400> anybody<00:51:40.800> needs documents. Um, and uh, if anybody needs documents. Um, and uh, if anybody needs to<00:51:41.280> contact<00:51:41.680> anyone,<00:51:42.000> I<00:51:42.240> have<00:51:42.319> contact to contact anyone, I have contact to contact anyone, I have contact information.<00:51:43.119> And<00:51:43.280> if<00:51:43.440> anybody<00:51:43.760> has<00:51:43.920> any

51:44 information. And if anybody has any information. And if anybody has any questions,<00:51:45.440> uh,<00:51:45.760> please<00:51:46.079> reach<00:51:46.319> out.<00:51:46.640> But<00:51:46.800> I questions, uh, please reach out. But I questions, uh, please reach out. But I think<00:51:48.400> barring<00:51:48.880> any<00:51:49.200> any<00:51:49.680> major<00:51:50.400> issues<00:51:50.720> or think barring any any major issues or think barring any any major issues or timeline<00:51:51.440> shifts,<00:51:51.839> we'll<00:51:52.079> we'll<00:51:52.400> be<00:51:52.480> back timeline shifts, we’ll we’ll be back timeline shifts, we’ll we’ll be back here<00:51:52.880> on<00:51:53.119> the<00:51:53.280> 6th<00:51:53.599> to<00:51:53.839> make<00:51:53.920> a<00:51:54.160> decision. here on the 6th to make a decision. here on the 6th to make a decision. » And<00:51:55.920> I<00:51:56.079> think<00:51:56.240> on<00:51:56.400> the<00:51:56.559> 13th<00:51:57.280> of<00:51:57.599> this<00:51:57.839> month, » And I think on the 13th of this month, » And I think on the 13th of this month, next<00:51:58.640> Oh,<00:51:58.800> is<00:51:58.960> that<00:51:59.119> Monday<00:51:59.359> or<00:51:59.520> Tuesday?<00:52:00.240> Um, next Oh, is that Monday or Tuesday? Um, next Oh, is that Monday or Tuesday? Um, we’re<00:52:01.359> going<00:52:01.440> to<00:52:01.520> have<00:52:01.599> the<00:52:01.760> full<00:52:01.920> bid<00:52:02.160> docs we’re going to have the full bid docs we’re going to have the full bid docs that<00:52:02.559> I<00:52:02.720> can<00:52:02.800> share<00:52:02.960> out<00:52:03.119> with<00:52:03.280> everybody.<00:52:03.599> Is that I can share out with everybody. Is that I can share out with everybody. Is that<00:52:03.920> is<00:52:04.079> that<00:52:04.240> an<00:52:04.400> accurate<00:52:04.800> or that is that an accurate or that is that an accurate or semi-accurate? semi-accurate? semi-accurate? Bid<00:52:07.920> docs<00:52:08.160> needs<00:52:08.319> them<00:52:08.480> by<00:52:08.559> the<00:52:08.720> 13th.<00:52:09.040> So,<00:52:09.200> we Bid docs needs them by the 13th. So, we Bid docs needs them by the 13th. So, we should<00:52:09.359> have<00:52:09.520> them<00:52:09.599> by<00:52:09.760> that<00:52:09.920> date,<00:52:10.160> right?

52:16 I I guess. Well, no, we will be working I I guess. Well, no, we will be working we’ll<00:52:16.640> be<00:52:16.800> working<00:52:16.960> up<00:52:17.200> until<00:52:17.440> Tuesday we’ll be working up until Tuesday we’ll be working up until Tuesday afternoon. afternoon. afternoon. » Oh,<00:52:19.040> okay.<00:52:19.280> I<00:52:19.440> talked<00:52:19.599> to<00:52:19.760> Lena<00:52:20.000> yesterday<00:52:20.240> and » Oh, okay. I talked to Lena yesterday and » Oh, okay. I talked to Lena yesterday and she<00:52:20.480> thought<00:52:20.640> bid<00:52:20.880> docs<00:52:21.040> needed<00:52:21.280> them<00:52:21.440> a she thought bid docs needed them a she thought bid docs needed them a couple<00:52:21.680> days<00:52:21.839> in<00:52:22.079> advance. couple days in advance. couple days in advance. » We’re<00:52:22.880> planning<00:52:23.200> to<00:52:23.359> upload<00:52:23.920> the<00:52:24.240> we're<00:52:24.559> doing » We’re planning to upload the we’re doing » We’re planning to upload the we’re doing like<00:52:25.200> um<00:52:25.359> as<00:52:25.680> far<00:52:25.839> as<00:52:26.000> we<00:52:26.240> get<00:52:27.040> tomorrow<00:52:27.680> or<00:52:28.079> or like um as far as we get tomorrow or or like um as far as we get tomorrow or or Monday,<00:52:29.040> but<00:52:29.280> really<00:52:29.680> we<00:52:29.920> we'd<00:52:30.319> prefer Monday, but really we we’d prefer Monday, but really we we’d prefer tomorrow<00:52:31.359> for<00:52:31.599> an<00:52:31.839> initial<00:52:32.240> upload<00:52:32.720> to<00:52:32.960> Bidocs tomorrow for an initial upload to Bidocs tomorrow for an initial upload to Bidocs and<00:52:34.160> that's<00:52:34.400> for<00:52:34.640> their<00:52:35.359> review.<00:52:36.240> But<00:52:36.480> those and that’s for their review. But those and that’s for their review. But those won’t<00:52:36.960> be<00:52:37.200> we'll<00:52:37.520> still<00:52:37.680> be<00:52:37.839> finalizing won’t be we’ll still be finalizing won’t be we’ll still be finalizing things<00:52:39.440> until<00:52:39.920> we<00:52:40.240> absolutely<00:52:40.640> have<00:52:40.800> to things until we absolutely have to things until we absolutely have to upload<00:52:41.280> them. upload them. upload them. » So<00:52:42.240> if<00:52:42.480> when<00:52:42.640> when<00:52:42.880> I<00:52:42.960> get<00:52:43.040> them<00:52:43.119> out<00:52:43.280> to<00:52:43.359> the » So if when when I get them out to the » So if when when I get them out to the committee,<00:52:43.680> I<00:52:43.760> guess<00:52:43.920> my<00:52:44.079> point<00:52:44.160> was<00:52:44.400> when<00:52:44.559> we committee, I guess my point was when we committee, I guess my point was when we get<00:52:44.720> them<00:52:44.800> out<00:52:44.880> to<00:52:45.040> the<00:52:45.200> committee,<00:52:46.240> um<00:52:46.800> if get them out to the committee, um if get them out to the committee, um if there’s<00:52:47.280> questions<00:52:47.599> on<00:52:47.760> them,<00:52:48.000> we<00:52:48.160> need<00:52:48.319> to there’s questions on them, we need to there’s questions on them, we need to issue<00:52:48.800> an<00:52:48.960> addendum<00:52:49.359> that<00:52:49.520> will<00:52:49.680> all<00:52:49.920> be<00:52:50.079> done issue an addendum that will all be done issue an addendum that will all be done through<00:52:51.440> through<00:52:51.680> you<00:52:51.920> guys.<00:52:52.640> We<00:52:52.720> we'll through through you guys. We we’ll through through you guys. We we’ll communicate<00:52:53.359> with<00:52:53.520> you<00:52:53.680> guys<00:52:53.839> if<00:52:54.079> we<00:52:54.240> consider communicate with you guys if we consider communicate with you guys if we consider that<00:52:54.720> there<00:52:54.880> might<00:52:55.119> need<00:52:55.280> to<00:52:55.440> be<00:52:55.520> an<00:52:55.680> addendum that there might need to be an addendum that there might need to be an addendum or<00:52:56.240> something.<00:52:56.480> I<00:52:56.720> think<00:52:57.040> Lena<00:52:57.359> and<00:52:57.440> I<00:52:57.680> talked or something. I think Lena and I talked or something. I think Lena and I talked yesterday<00:52:58.160> and<00:52:58.319> that<00:52:58.480> was<00:52:58.559> kind<00:52:58.640> of<00:52:58.720> the<00:52:58.880> plan. yesterday and that was kind of the plan. yesterday and that was kind of the plan. » Yes,<00:53:01.520> absolutely,<00:53:02.000> Mike.<00:53:02.240> And<00:53:02.480> I'm<00:53:02.640> sorry<00:53:02.800> for

53:03 » Yes, absolutely, Mike. And I’m sorry for » Yes, absolutely, Mike. And I’m sorry for miss<00:53:03.520> um<00:53:03.760> speaking<00:53:04.240> on<00:53:04.559> the<00:53:05.200> um<00:53:05.359> drawings<00:53:05.760> for miss um speaking on the um drawings for miss um speaking on the um drawings for the<00:53:06.160> 13th<00:53:06.800> um<00:53:06.880> Mike<00:53:07.200> and<00:53:07.280> Molly,<00:53:07.839> but<00:53:08.240> yes, the 13th um Mike and Molly, but yes, the 13th um Mike and Molly, but yes, absolutely.<00:53:09.119> Uh<00:53:09.440> addendum<00:53:09.839> would<00:53:10.000> be<00:53:10.079> handled absolutely. Uh addendum would be handled absolutely. Uh addendum would be handled through<00:53:10.640> us<00:53:11.359> and<00:53:11.520> RDA. through us and RDA. through us and RDA. » Thank<00:53:13.599> you. » Thank you. » Thank you. » Okay.<00:53:16.559> Well,<00:53:16.720> if<00:53:16.880> there's<00:53:17.440> is<00:53:17.599> there<00:53:17.839> anything » Okay. Well, if there’s is there anything » Okay. Well, if there’s is there anything else<00:53:18.240> that<00:53:18.559> anybody<00:53:18.960> would<00:53:19.119> like<00:53:19.200> to<00:53:19.359> bring<00:53:19.520> up else that anybody would like to bring up else that anybody would like to bring up before<00:53:19.920> I<00:53:20.640> close<00:53:20.880> out<00:53:21.040> this<00:53:21.280> meeting? before I close out this meeting? before I close out this meeting? » Um<00:53:23.200> could<00:53:23.440> I<00:53:23.599> just<00:53:23.839> follow<00:53:24.079> up<00:53:24.319> on<00:53:24.640> one<00:53:24.960> thing? » Um could I just follow up on one thing? » Um could I just follow up on one thing? Uh<00:53:26.000> we<00:53:26.240> had<00:53:26.319> a<00:53:26.559> very<00:53:26.720> good<00:53:26.960> discussion<00:53:27.440> about Uh we had a very good discussion about Uh we had a very good discussion about um<00:53:28.240> the<00:53:28.480> bid<00:53:28.800> specification<00:53:29.599> for<00:53:29.920> the<00:53:30.079> roofing um the bid specification for the roofing um the bid specification for the roofing alternate<00:53:31.359> and<00:53:31.599> that's<00:53:31.920> going<00:53:32.000> to<00:53:32.079> be<00:53:32.240> a<00:53:32.480> very alternate and that’s going to be a very alternate and that’s going to be a very important<00:53:33.200> consideration<00:53:34.559> as<00:53:34.800> was<00:53:35.119> pointed important consideration as was pointed important consideration as was pointed out<00:53:36.400> uh<00:53:36.559> in<00:53:36.800> the<00:53:36.960> meeting<00:53:37.680> uh<00:53:37.839> the<00:53:38.160> public out uh in the meeting uh the public out uh in the meeting uh the public sector<00:53:38.800> is<00:53:39.040> sometimes<00:53:39.599> slow<00:53:39.920> to<00:53:40.160> adopt<00:53:40.480> these sector is sometimes slow to adopt these sector is sometimes slow to adopt these new<00:53:41.040> technologies.<00:53:42.160> It's<00:53:42.480> not<00:53:42.640> because<00:53:43.119> the new technologies. It’s not because the new technologies. It’s not because the public<00:53:43.839> sector<00:53:44.240> is<00:53:45.040> uninformed<00:53:45.839> or public sector is uninformed or public sector is uninformed or uneducated.<00:53:47.440> Uh<00:53:47.839> a<00:53:48.079> lot<00:53:48.160> of<00:53:48.240> it<00:53:48.400> has<00:53:48.559> to<00:53:48.720> do

53:48 uneducated. Uh a lot of it has to do uneducated. Uh a lot of it has to do with<00:53:49.040> the<00:53:49.280> challenge<00:53:49.680> that<00:53:49.920> the<00:53:50.160> public with the challenge that the public with the challenge that the public sector<00:53:50.720> has<00:53:51.040> in<00:53:51.200> accepting<00:53:51.599> new<00:53:51.920> technology. sector has in accepting new technology. sector has in accepting new technology. um<00:53:53.520> if<00:53:53.760> we<00:53:53.920> were<00:53:54.000> a<00:53:54.160> private<00:53:54.480> owner,<00:53:55.040> we<00:53:55.280> would um if we were a private owner, we would um if we were a private owner, we would specify<00:53:56.000> the<00:53:56.319> coding<00:53:56.720> that<00:53:56.880> we<00:53:57.040> wanted<00:53:57.520> and<00:53:57.760> we specify the coding that we wanted and we specify the coding that we wanted and we would<00:53:58.160> instruct<00:53:58.559> the<00:53:59.200> um<00:53:59.520> the<00:53:59.760> the<00:54:00.160> roofing would instruct the um the the roofing would instruct the um the the roofing subcontractors<00:54:01.440> to<00:54:01.599> bid<00:54:01.920> that<00:54:02.160> product.<00:54:02.960> Uh subcontractors to bid that product. Uh subcontractors to bid that product. Uh that<00:54:03.599> of<00:54:03.760> course<00:54:03.839> in<00:54:04.160> public<00:54:04.400> bidding<00:54:04.720> laws<00:54:04.960> in that of course in public bidding laws in that of course in public bidding laws in Massachusetts<00:54:05.760> is<00:54:06.079> illegal<00:54:06.880> and<00:54:07.119> we<00:54:07.359> have<00:54:07.440> to Massachusetts is illegal and we have to Massachusetts is illegal and we have to be<00:54:07.760> mindful<00:54:08.079> that<00:54:08.319> we're<00:54:08.640> going<00:54:08.720> to<00:54:08.880> have<00:54:09.040> to be mindful that we’re going to have to be mindful that we’re going to have to structure<00:54:09.520> a<00:54:09.839> specification<00:54:10.960> that<00:54:11.280> gets<00:54:11.520> us structure a specification that gets us structure a specification that gets us more<00:54:12.240> or<00:54:12.400> less<00:54:12.720> precisely<00:54:13.520> exactly<00:54:14.160> what<00:54:14.400> we more or less precisely exactly what we more or less precisely exactly what we want.<00:54:15.520> And<00:54:15.680> everyone<00:54:16.079> has<00:54:16.240> to<00:54:16.480> understand want. And everyone has to understand want. And everyone has to understand that<00:54:17.040> at<00:54:17.200> the<00:54:17.359> day<00:54:17.520> of<00:54:17.680> bid<00:54:18.079> when<00:54:18.240> we<00:54:18.480> open<00:54:18.640> the that at the day of bid when we open the that at the day of bid when we open the documents<00:54:19.599> we<00:54:19.839> won't<00:54:20.079> know<00:54:20.400> for<00:54:20.720> certainty documents we won’t know for certainty documents we won’t know for certainty that<00:54:21.440> we<00:54:21.680> got<00:54:22.079> exactly<00:54:22.720> what<00:54:23.040> we<00:54:23.200> want.<00:54:24.079> So<00:54:24.240> I that we got exactly what we want. So I that we got exactly what we want. So I think<00:54:24.559> that<00:54:24.800> we<00:54:25.040> should<00:54:25.200> spend<00:54:25.520> some<00:54:25.839> time think that we should spend some time think that we should spend some time reflecting<00:54:26.640> on<00:54:27.200> our<00:54:27.520> competence<00:54:27.920> in<00:54:28.160> being reflecting on our competence in being reflecting on our competence in being able<00:54:28.559> to<00:54:28.720> produce<00:54:28.960> a<00:54:29.200> bid<00:54:29.440> document<00:54:29.839> that<00:54:30.079> is able to produce a bid document that is able to produce a bid document that is going<00:54:30.319> to<00:54:30.480> get<00:54:30.559> us<00:54:30.720> the<00:54:31.680> product<00:54:31.839> that<00:54:32.079> we going to get us the product that we going to get us the product that we desire.<00:54:33.119> And<00:54:33.280> if<00:54:33.440> we<00:54:33.599> say<00:54:33.760> that,<00:54:34.000> okay,<00:54:34.319> we're

54:34 desire. And if we say that, okay, we’re desire. And if we say that, okay, we’re going<00:54:34.559> to<00:54:34.640> specify<00:54:35.119> the<00:54:35.359> material<00:54:35.680> is<00:54:36.000> going going to specify the material is going going to specify the material is going to<00:54:36.160> be<00:54:36.960> um<00:54:37.200> is<00:54:37.359> it<00:54:37.599> polyurea<00:54:38.800> as<00:54:39.040> opposed<00:54:39.359> to to be um is it polyurea as opposed to to be um is it polyurea as opposed to polyurethane<00:54:41.200> and<00:54:41.359> we're<00:54:41.680> confident<00:54:42.000> that polyurethane and we’re confident that polyurethane and we’re confident that there’s<00:54:42.559> a<00:54:42.960> an<00:54:43.200> array<00:54:43.599> of<00:54:43.680> biders<00:54:44.079> that<00:54:44.240> are there’s a an array of biders that are there’s a an array of biders that are going<00:54:44.480> to<00:54:44.720> satisfy<00:54:45.359> our<00:54:45.680> performance going to satisfy our performance going to satisfy our performance specification,<00:54:47.119> then<00:54:47.359> that's<00:54:47.680> good.<00:54:48.559> Um,<00:54:48.960> but specification, then that’s good. Um, but specification, then that’s good. Um, but you<00:54:49.440> just<00:54:49.599> need<00:54:49.760> to<00:54:49.920> kind<00:54:50.079> of<00:54:50.240> be<00:54:50.400> mindful<00:54:50.720> of you just need to kind of be mindful of you just need to kind of be mindful of the<00:54:51.040> fact<00:54:51.280> I'm<00:54:51.440> just<00:54:51.680> curious.<00:54:52.079> I<00:54:52.319> mean,<00:54:52.800> uh, the fact I’m just curious. I mean, uh, the fact I’m just curious. I mean, uh, Mike,<00:54:53.280> you've<00:54:53.599> obviously<00:54:54.079> done<00:54:54.319> this<00:54:54.480> in Mike, you’ve obviously done this in Mike, you’ve obviously done this in other<00:54:54.960> places,<00:54:55.359> so<00:54:55.920> other<00:54:56.240> other<00:54:56.640> public other places, so other other public other places, so other other public biders<00:54:57.440> have<00:54:57.760> successfully<00:54:58.319> bid<00:54:58.640> this biders have successfully bid this biders have successfully bid this product<00:54:59.200> and<00:54:59.359> they've<00:54:59.680> gotten<00:54:59.920> exactly<00:55:00.319> what product and they’ve gotten exactly what product and they’ve gotten exactly what they<00:55:00.640> wanted.<00:55:01.280> I<00:55:01.440> mean,<00:55:01.599> it's<00:55:01.839> one<00:55:02.000> thing<00:55:02.240> to they wanted. I mean, it’s one thing to they wanted. I mean, it’s one thing to be<00:55:02.559> a<00:55:02.800> private<00:55:03.040> owner<00:55:03.280> and<00:55:03.520> say,<00:55:03.599> "Okay,<00:55:04.079> give be a private owner and say, “Okay, give be a private owner and say, “Okay, give me<00:55:04.319> a<00:55:04.480> Garland<00:55:05.520> um<00:55:05.680> liquid<00:55:06.160> applied<00:55:06.559> roofing me a Garland um liquid applied roofing me a Garland um liquid applied roofing cover.”<00:55:07.760> That's<00:55:08.000> that's<00:55:08.400> great.<00:55:08.800> That's cover.” That’s that’s great. That’s cover.” That’s that’s great. That’s easy.<00:55:09.599> U<00:55:09.920> but<00:55:10.160> it's<00:55:10.319> harder<00:55:10.559> in<00:55:10.800> the<00:55:10.880> public easy. U but it’s harder in the public easy. U but it’s harder in the public sector.<00:55:11.520> So,<00:55:11.760> we<00:55:11.920> just<00:55:12.079> need<00:55:12.160> to<00:55:12.319> be<00:55:12.480> confident sector. So, we just need to be confident sector. So, we just need to be confident that<00:55:13.119> we're<00:55:13.520> uh<00:55:14.000> we're<00:55:14.319> procuring<00:55:14.720> this<00:55:14.960> thing that we’re uh we’re procuring this thing that we’re uh we’re procuring this thing in<00:55:15.280> a<00:55:15.520> way<00:55:15.599> that<00:55:15.839> we're<00:55:16.079> going<00:55:16.160> to<00:55:16.240> be in a way that we’re going to be in a way that we’re going to be confident<00:55:16.720> that<00:55:16.960> the<00:55:17.200> result<00:55:17.440> we<00:55:17.760> get<00:55:18.079> is confident that the result we get is confident that the result we get is going<00:55:18.480> to<00:55:18.559> be<00:55:18.720> what<00:55:18.880> we<00:55:19.040> want<00:55:19.359> because<00:55:19.680> like<00:55:19.920> a

55:20 going to be what we want because like a going to be what we want because like a month<00:55:20.319> later<00:55:20.640> when<00:55:20.880> we<00:55:20.960> get<00:55:21.119> the<00:55:21.280> submitt<00:55:21.760> from month later when we get the submitt from month later when we get the submitt from the<00:55:22.000> roofing<00:55:22.319> subcontractor<00:55:23.359> and<00:55:23.599> we're the roofing subcontractor and we’re the roofing subcontractor and we’re surprised<00:55:24.240> it's<00:55:24.559> not<00:55:24.640> what<00:55:24.880> we<00:55:25.040> want,<00:55:25.280> we're surprised it’s not what we want, we’re surprised it’s not what we want, we’re going<00:55:25.599> to<00:55:25.680> be<00:55:25.760> in<00:55:25.920> a<00:55:26.079> pickle. Thank you, Ralph. Thank you, Ralph. » Yeah,<00:55:33.520> thanks,<00:55:33.680> Ralph.<00:55:34.000> I<00:55:34.160> don't<00:55:34.160> know<00:55:34.240> if » Yeah, thanks, Ralph. I don’t know if » Yeah, thanks, Ralph. I don’t know if anybody<00:55:34.800> has<00:55:35.040> a<00:55:35.280> response<00:55:35.599> to<00:55:35.839> that.<00:55:36.640> Yeah.<00:55:37.040> C anybody has a response to that. Yeah. C anybody has a response to that. Yeah. C can<00:55:37.599> we<00:55:37.839> just<00:55:38.880> um<00:55:40.000> identify<00:55:40.640> what<00:55:40.960> system<00:55:41.359> we can we just um identify what system we can we just um identify what system we find<00:55:41.839> to<00:55:42.079> be<00:55:42.240> ideal<00:55:43.200> and<00:55:43.440> then<00:55:44.319> uh<00:55:44.480> even<00:55:44.720> if<00:55:44.880> we find to be ideal and then uh even if we find to be ideal and then uh even if we consult<00:55:45.359> with<00:55:45.599> some<00:55:45.839> people<00:55:46.319> in<00:55:46.559> the<00:55:46.720> next consult with some people in the next consult with some people in the next couple<00:55:47.119> days<00:55:47.359> here<00:55:48.000> and<00:55:48.240> then<00:55:48.559> put<00:55:48.799> in<00:55:49.200> the couple days here and then put in the couple days here and then put in the composition<00:55:49.920> of<00:55:50.079> the<00:55:50.319> product<00:55:50.880> as<00:55:51.119> in<00:55:51.520> you composition of the product as in you composition of the product as in you know<00:55:51.839> polyurea<00:55:53.119> the<00:55:54.000> uh<00:55:54.319> mill<00:55:54.720> thickness<00:55:55.359> that know polyurea the uh mill thickness that know polyurea the uh mill thickness that we<00:55:56.319> view<00:55:56.640> as<00:55:56.960> being<00:55:57.200> the<00:55:57.440> ideal<00:55:58.319> uh<00:55:58.640> the<00:55:58.960> ideal we view as being the ideal uh the ideal we view as being the ideal uh the ideal coating<00:55:59.680> thickness<00:56:00.559> and<00:56:00.960> put<00:56:01.200> all<00:56:01.440> and<00:56:01.599> the coating thickness and put all and the coating thickness and put all and the application<00:56:02.400> method<00:56:02.880> if<00:56:03.119> that<00:56:03.359> comes<00:56:03.599> into application method if that comes into application method if that comes into into<00:56:05.119> play<00:56:05.680> and<00:56:06.000> put<00:56:06.160> all<00:56:06.319> of<00:56:06.400> that<00:56:06.559> in<00:56:06.720> the<00:56:06.799> bid

56:07 into play and put all of that in the bid into play and put all of that in the bid document<00:56:07.440> so<00:56:07.680> that<00:56:07.839> there's<00:56:08.079> no<00:56:08.319> room<00:56:08.480> for document so that there’s no room for document so that there’s no room for error. error. error. » Can<00:56:10.319> I<00:56:10.640> respond<00:56:10.960> to<00:56:11.119> that?<00:56:11.440> The<00:56:11.680> answer<00:56:11.839> is » Can I respond to that? The answer is » Can I respond to that? The answer is yes,<00:56:12.480> as<00:56:12.720> long<00:56:12.880> as<00:56:13.119> you<00:56:13.280> do<00:56:13.440> not<00:56:13.599> go<00:56:13.760> to<00:56:13.920> the yes, as long as you do not go to the yes, as long as you do not go to the point<00:56:14.240> of<00:56:14.400> making<00:56:14.640> it<00:56:14.880> a<00:56:15.040> proprietary point of making it a proprietary point of making it a proprietary specification. specification. specification. » Now,<00:56:18.640> I<00:56:18.799> do<00:56:18.960> think<00:56:19.119> there<00:56:19.359> are<00:56:19.599> several » Now, I do think there are several » Now, I do think there are several manufacturers<00:56:21.280> of<00:56:22.319> of<00:56:22.720> these<00:56:22.960> polyurea manufacturers of of these polyurea manufacturers of of these polyurea coatings.<00:56:24.240> So,<00:56:24.400> I<00:56:24.640> I<00:56:24.880> you<00:56:25.119> know,<00:56:25.680> and<00:56:25.920> also<00:56:26.319> you coatings. So, I I you know, and also you coatings. So, I I you know, and also you can<00:56:26.640> apply<00:56:27.200> many<00:56:27.520> of<00:56:27.680> these<00:56:28.160> in<00:56:28.400> different can apply many of these in different can apply many of these in different thicknesses<00:56:29.280> depending<00:56:29.680> on<00:56:29.839> how<00:56:30.079> how<00:56:30.480> heavy thicknesses depending on how how heavy thicknesses depending on how how heavy you<00:56:30.880> want<00:56:30.960> to<00:56:31.119> go.<00:56:31.440> So<00:56:31.599> we<00:56:31.839> could<00:56:31.920> decide<00:56:32.240> what you want to go. So we could decide what you want to go. So we could decide what we<00:56:32.640> think<00:56:32.799> is<00:56:33.040> ideal<00:56:33.440> and<00:56:33.599> I<00:56:33.839> think<00:56:34.000> Mike<00:56:34.400> has we think is ideal and I think Mike has we think is ideal and I think Mike has the<00:56:34.799> experience<00:56:35.200> to<00:56:35.440> help<00:56:35.599> with<00:56:35.760> that<00:56:36.000> and the experience to help with that and the experience to help with that and then<00:56:36.319> we<00:56:36.559> might<00:56:36.720> be<00:56:36.799> able<00:56:36.960> to<00:56:37.119> just<00:56:37.520> put<00:56:37.760> that then we might be able to just put that then we might be able to just put that into<00:56:38.160> the<00:56:39.040> into<00:56:39.440> the<00:56:39.760> bid<00:56:40.079> spec<00:56:40.720> and<00:56:41.200> see<00:56:41.359> where into the into the bid spec and see where into the into the bid spec and see where we<00:56:41.680> land. we land. we land. » I<00:56:43.359> think<00:56:43.440> that's<00:56:43.599> a<00:56:43.839> great<00:56:44.000> idea.<00:56:44.400> Just<00:56:44.720> one » I think that’s a great idea. Just one » I think that’s a great idea. Just one just<00:56:45.599> general<00:56:46.319> observation.<00:56:47.119> If<00:56:47.280> there<00:56:47.440> are just general observation. If there are just general observation. If there are other<00:56:47.839> products<00:56:48.319> besides<00:56:48.799> the<00:56:48.960> the<00:56:49.359> one<00:56:49.520> that other products besides the the one that other products besides the the one that was<00:56:49.920> mentioned,<00:56:50.240> Garland,<00:56:50.960> if<00:56:51.200> Mike<00:56:51.440> Velg<00:56:51.839> is was mentioned, Garland, if Mike Velg is was mentioned, Garland, if Mike Velg is confident,<00:56:52.400> oh<00:56:52.559> yeah,<00:56:52.799> there<00:56:52.880> are<00:56:52.960> three<00:56:53.119> or

56:53 confident, oh yeah, there are three or confident, oh yeah, there are three or four<00:56:53.520> manufacturers<00:56:54.160> and<00:56:54.400> as<00:56:54.640> long<00:56:54.799> as<00:56:54.960> they four manufacturers and as long as they four manufacturers and as long as they met<00:56:55.920> the<00:56:56.160> general<00:56:56.480> specification,<00:56:57.440> their met the general specification, their met the general specification, their product<00:56:58.000> would<00:56:58.240> be<00:56:58.400> fine<00:56:58.640> and<00:56:58.880> their<00:56:59.040> warranty product would be fine and their warranty product would be fine and their warranty would<00:56:59.680> be<00:56:59.839> fine<00:57:00.000> and<00:57:00.240> the<00:57:00.480> company<00:57:00.720> would<00:57:00.880> be would be fine and the company would be would be fine and the company would be fine.<00:57:02.000> Then<00:57:02.319> great.<00:57:03.040> But<00:57:03.200> if<00:57:03.359> you're<00:57:03.520> saying, fine. Then great. But if you’re saying, fine. Then great. But if you’re saying, well,<00:57:04.079> you<00:57:04.160> know,<00:57:04.319> I<00:57:04.480> heard<00:57:04.720> some<00:57:04.960> people<00:57:05.200> make well, you know, I heard some people make well, you know, I heard some people make this<00:57:05.760> thing,<00:57:06.160> but<00:57:06.400> the<00:57:06.559> only<00:57:06.720> one<00:57:06.880> I've<00:57:07.119> ever this thing, but the only one I’ve ever this thing, but the only one I’ve ever seen<00:57:07.680> used<00:57:08.240> is<00:57:08.640> Garland,<00:57:09.359> and<00:57:09.760> that's<00:57:10.000> the<00:57:10.240> one seen used is Garland, and that’s the one seen used is Garland, and that’s the one we<00:57:10.559> want<00:57:10.640> to<00:57:10.799> go<00:57:10.880> with,<00:57:11.119> but<00:57:11.440> we<00:57:11.599> don't<00:57:11.760> get we want to go with, but we don’t get we want to go with, but we don’t get that.<00:57:12.720> Uh,<00:57:13.119> you<00:57:13.280> know,<00:57:13.520> again,<00:57:14.079> you<00:57:14.319> have<00:57:14.480> to that. Uh, you know, again, you have to that. Uh, you know, again, you have to be<00:57:14.720> careful<00:57:14.960> that<00:57:15.200> it's<00:57:15.440> not<00:57:15.520> a<00:57:15.680> proprietary be careful that it’s not a proprietary be careful that it’s not a proprietary specification.<00:57:17.520> Uh,<00:57:17.839> and<00:57:18.160> you<00:57:18.480> have<00:57:18.559> a<00:57:18.799> lot<00:57:18.880> of specification. Uh, and you have a lot of specification. Uh, and you have a lot of flexibility<00:57:19.599> in<00:57:19.920> trying<00:57:20.240> to<00:57:20.720> tailor<00:57:21.119> the<00:57:21.359> spec flexibility in trying to tailor the spec flexibility in trying to tailor the spec to<00:57:22.000> meet<00:57:22.160> what<00:57:22.400> you<00:57:22.559> want.<00:57:23.200> But<00:57:23.280> I<00:57:23.520> just<00:57:23.680> want to meet what you want. But I just want to meet what you want. But I just want to<00:57:24.000> be<00:57:24.240> confident<00:57:24.640> that<00:57:24.880> everyone<00:57:25.200> says, to be confident that everyone says, to be confident that everyone says, “Yeah,<00:57:25.680> there's<00:57:25.920> three<00:57:26.160> companies<00:57:26.480> out<00:57:26.720> there “Yeah, there’s three companies out there “Yeah, there’s three companies out there and<00:57:27.200> if<00:57:27.359> we<00:57:27.520> got<00:57:27.599> a<00:57:27.839> product<00:57:28.079> and<00:57:28.240> it's<00:57:28.480> not and if we got a product and it’s not and if we got a product and it’s not Garland,<00:57:29.200> we're<00:57:29.440> going<00:57:29.599> to<00:57:29.760> be<00:57:29.920> happy<00:57:30.160> with Garland, we’re going to be happy with Garland, we’re going to be happy with it.” » Uh, Mike, do you have thoughts on that » Uh, Mike, do you have thoughts on that on<00:57:36.160> the<00:57:36.400> different<00:57:36.720> manufacturers?

57:39 on the different manufacturers? on the different manufacturers? » Here’s<00:57:39.760> where<00:57:39.920> it<00:57:40.000> boils<00:57:40.319> down<00:57:40.480> to.<00:57:40.960> Um,<00:57:42.160> when » Here’s where it boils down to. Um, when » Here’s where it boils down to. Um, when I<00:57:42.559> spoke<00:57:42.799> to<00:57:42.960> Rob<00:57:43.280> from<00:57:43.440> Garland,<00:57:44.160> they've I spoke to Rob from Garland, they’ve I spoke to Rob from Garland, they’ve done<00:57:45.280> I've<00:57:45.599> got<00:57:45.839> I've<00:57:46.079> got<00:57:46.160> a<00:57:46.400> list<00:57:46.640> and<00:57:46.880> I done I’ve got I’ve got a list and I done I’ve got I’ve got a list and I think<00:57:47.280> so<00:57:47.520> does<00:57:47.680> RDA<00:57:48.319> of<00:57:48.559> all<00:57:48.640> the<00:57:48.880> schools think so does RDA of all the schools think so does RDA of all the schools that<00:57:49.359> they've<00:57:49.599> done.<00:57:50.319> So,<00:57:50.559> we<00:57:50.720> they've that they’ve done. So, we they’ve that they’ve done. So, we they’ve already<00:57:51.280> overcome<00:57:51.680> this<00:57:51.839> huddle,<00:57:52.880> you<00:57:52.960> know, already overcome this huddle, you know, already overcome this huddle, you know, in<00:57:53.280> terms<00:57:53.599> of<00:57:54.000> getting<00:57:54.319> the<00:57:54.559> products<00:57:54.880> that<00:57:55.119> we in terms of getting the products that we in terms of getting the products that we want.<00:57:56.079> So,<00:57:56.799> uh,<00:57:56.960> I<00:57:57.119> I<00:57:57.359> think<00:57:57.520> we<00:57:57.680> should<00:57:57.839> be<00:57:58.000> all want. So, uh, I I think we should be all want. So, uh, I I think we should be all set.<00:57:58.559> Um,<00:57:59.119> you<00:57:59.359> know,<00:57:59.760> we're<00:58:00.000> I'm<00:58:00.240> going<00:58:00.400> to set. Um, you know, we’re I’m going to set. Um, you know, we’re I’m going to reach<00:58:01.040> out<00:58:01.200> to<00:58:01.599> Garland<00:58:02.079> and<00:58:02.480> I'm<00:58:02.720> sure<00:58:02.880> RDA reach out to Garland and I’m sure RDA reach out to Garland and I’m sure RDA will<00:58:03.920> and<00:58:04.319> together<00:58:04.799> we<00:58:05.040> can<00:58:05.200> come<00:58:05.359> up<00:58:05.680> with will and together we can come up with will and together we can come up with language<00:58:07.040> that<00:58:07.520> meets<00:58:07.920> the<00:58:08.400> uh<00:58:08.720> the<00:58:08.960> bidding language that meets the uh the bidding language that meets the uh the bidding laws<00:58:09.599> of<00:58:09.760> Massachusetts<00:58:10.319> and<00:58:10.559> still<00:58:10.720> gets<00:58:10.960> us laws of Massachusetts and still gets us laws of Massachusetts and still gets us what<00:58:11.359> we<00:58:11.520> want,<00:58:12.160> which<00:58:12.400> is<00:58:12.559> a<00:58:13.040> superior what we want, which is a superior what we want, which is a superior product.

58:23 Okay, Okay, any<00:58:24.079> final<00:58:24.400> thoughts?

58:30 If something comes up, email me or the If something comes up, email me or the group.<00:58:30.799> Um,<00:58:31.680> I'm<00:58:32.000> happy<00:58:32.240> to<00:58:33.040> pass<00:58:33.280> any group. Um, I’m happy to pass any group. Um, I’m happy to pass any messages<00:58:33.920> along.<00:58:34.319> Just<00:58:34.640> I'm<00:58:34.960> just<00:58:35.200> going<00:58:35.280> to messages along. Just I’m just going to messages along. Just I’m just going to do<00:58:35.520> a<00:58:35.680> quick<00:58:35.839> roll<00:58:36.079> call<00:58:36.400> to<00:58:37.280> adjourn<00:58:37.760> the do a quick roll call to adjourn the do a quick roll call to adjourn the meeting.<00:58:38.400> Um,<00:58:39.839> please<00:58:40.160> just<00:58:40.480> say<00:58:40.880> uh<00:58:41.680> in<00:58:42.000> favor meeting. Um, please just say uh in favor meeting. Um, please just say uh in favor or<00:58:42.720> yes<00:58:42.960> or<00:58:43.200> whatever,<00:58:43.440> but<00:58:43.839> uh<00:58:44.240> make<00:58:44.400> a<00:58:44.559> motion or yes or whatever, but uh make a motion or yes or whatever, but uh make a motion to<00:58:45.040> adjourn.<00:58:45.680> Um,<00:58:46.079> Mark to adjourn. Um, Mark to adjourn. Um, Mark » in<00:58:47.599> favor.<00:58:48.400> like<00:58:48.640> Kareema.

58:59 » Oh, sorry. I was muted. In favor, sorry. » Oh, sorry. I was muted. In favor, sorry. » I’m<00:58:59.839> sorry.<00:59:00.160> Yeah.<00:59:00.480> Um<00:59:01.280> Mike » I’m sorry. Yeah. Um Mike » I’m sorry. Yeah. Um Mike » Pifferling. » Pifferling. » Pifferling. » Uh<00:59:03.599> in<00:59:03.760> favor. » Uh in favor. » Uh in favor. » Brian<00:59:05.520> Sarafin. » Brian Sarafin. » Brian Sarafin. » In<00:59:06.559> favor. » In favor. » In favor. » Ralph. » Ralph. » Ralph. » Yes. » Yes. » Yes. » And<00:59:09.680> me<00:59:09.920> as<00:59:10.160> well.<00:59:10.400> So,<00:59:10.960> um<00:59:11.440> motion<00:59:11.760> to<00:59:11.920> adjourn » And me as well. So, um motion to adjourn » And me as well. So, um motion to adjourn at<00:59:12.559> 12:59.<00:59:13.760> Thank<00:59:13.920> you<00:59:14.160> everyone. at 12:59. Thank you everyone. at 12:59. Thank you everyone. » Thanks. » Thanks. » Thanks. » Thank<00:59:15.760> you. » Thank you. » Thank you. » Thank<00:59:16.640> you<00:59:16.880> everybody.<00:59:17.359> Take<00:59:17.599> care.<00:59:18.079> Bye.

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