School Committee

School Committee: November 3, 2025

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The School Committee voted 5–0 to approve the annual evaluation of Superintendent John Rabadu for the period ending October 2025. The committee then met with the superintendent to discuss and refine his goals for the upcoming cycle, focusing on student achievement and growth, district improvement through instructional leadership, and a professional practice goal. Members also raised the possibility of extending the superintendent's three-year contract, potentially to four or five years.

#admin-housekeeping Lead ▶ 0 min

School Committee votes 5–0 to approve superintendent's annual evaluation

The board finalized its evaluation of Superintendent John Rabadu for the period ending October 2025 after a brief discussion about one goal area.

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The chair called the meeting to order at 10:01 a.m. on November 3, 2025. The first item was finalizing the superintendent evaluation that had been mostly completed at the prior meeting. A member (Melissa) noted a concern about the storytelling/communications goal — specifically that the superintendent had not yet established a baseline survey or measurement system. After brief discussion the committee concluded the evaluation was ready for a vote.

A motion was made by Jen and seconded by Melissa. The motion to approve the evaluation of Superintendent John Rabadu passed 5 to 0. A member noted for the record that the evaluation covered the period ending October 2025.

Jen (committee member) · Melissa (committee member) · Superintendent John Rabadu

#labor-personnel ▶ 3 min

Committee and superintendent begin setting new performance goals for upcoming cycle

Discussion covered goal structure, evaluation cycle length, possible contract extension, and the superintendent's proposed student achievement and district improvement goals.

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After approving the evaluation, the committee turned to setting the superintendent’s goals for the upcoming year. Discussion touched on several process questions:

Evaluation cycle: A member suggested considering a two-year cycle or an 18-month cycle (e.g., October 2025 through May/June 2027) to better align with the sitting committee and school calendar before elections.

Contract extension: A member raised the possibility of extending Superintendent Rabadu’s three-year contract to four or five years, noting that consistency and experience at the helm benefit the district. The superintendent responded positively to the conversation, noting that longer tenure has historically been considered optimal for district stability. No vote was taken.

Goal-setting process: The superintendent presented draft goals organized in three areas. The committee asked for one or two focus indicators per standard to sharpen accountability, and requested that goals include specific measurable language rather than broad descriptors.

Student learning goal: The superintendent described a goal focused on ensuring ways to assess student achievement and growth from early grades through graduation. Committee members emphasized the need for measurable, specific data (assessments, MCAS, AP scores, benchmarks) reported on a regular schedule — quarterly or trimester — rather than just anecdotal conversation. Members also requested comparative data against similar districts and attention to high school readiness metrics (SAT, ACT, AP) and special education outcomes.

District improvement / instructional leadership goal: The superintendent described a goal around building cohesion across the district’s five schools through ‘learning walks’ — principals visiting each other’s buildings to observe and share instructional strategies. A committee member reframed the goal as being about empowering principals to be the instructional leaders of their buildings, with learning walks as one tactic toward that strategic goal. The most senior principal in the district has been in Marblehead for approximately four years, underscoring the need to develop instructional leadership capacity.

Superintendent John Rabadu · Committee Chair · Jen (committee member) · Melissa (committee member) · Henry (committee member)

#school-budget ▶ 17 min

Committee refines superintendent goal language around student data, instructional leadership, and professional practice

Extended working session on goal wording covered assessment frameworks, absenteeism, college readiness, district-wide instructional coherence, and how to measure principal effectiveness.

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The working session continued with refinement of all three superintendent goal areas:

Student achievement goal: Members asked that the summary be sharpened to specify which assessments will be used (MCAS, iReady, Dibels, etc.), at what frequency data will be reported to the school committee, and how the district compares to peer districts. The committee expressed particular interest in high school metrics — AP course enrollment and scores, SAT/ACT scores, and where graduating seniors go after high school. One member noted that approximately 97–98% of MHS graduates go to college, making it effectively a college preparatory school. Chronic absenteeism was raised as a driver of outcomes; a member suggested it be captured within the student achievement goal framework rather than as a standalone superintendent goal, since the committee sets policy and the administration is responsible for implementation.

A member noted the district has a data platform (referenced as ‘AREAd’ or similar) that may allow tracking of how graduates are performing in college, and suggested that data be incorporated into future reporting.

District improvement / instructional leadership goal: The committee agreed the goal should be reframed from a description of learning walk tactics to a strategic goal about developing building principals as strong instructional leaders. Specific focus indicators from the state rubric were identified — including 1A (rigorous standards-based instruction), 4E (shared vision), and a continuous learning standard about staff reflection on practice. A member noted that curriculum directors were eliminated in the mid-2000s for cost reasons, and the current ‘lead teacher’ model, while valuable for coaching, does not carry supervisory authority — making the principal’s instructional leadership role all the more important.

Discussion also addressed how to measure this goal without inappropriately evaluating principals through the superintendent’s own evaluation. Staff surveys were discussed as one mechanism, though members acknowledged collective bargaining and trust issues with anonymous surveys. 360-degree feedback and structured conversations were mentioned as alternatives.

Professional practice goal: The session turned to the third goal (professional practice / storytelling and communication) at approximately 1:11 a.m. A member expressed some dissatisfaction with the current draft language and asked that it be made more concrete. Discussion touched on the challenge of holding comfortable evaluative conversations, particularly when principals and evaluators develop personal relationships. A member with a corporate background noted that performance management training — including how to give structured feedback — is standard in the private sector but less emphasized in public education, and suggested this could be an area for professional development for building leaders.

Superintendent John Rabadu · Committee Chair · Jen (committee member) · Melissa (committee member) · Henry (committee member)

1 decision
  1. Approved superintendent evaluation for period ending October 2025
1 vote
  • in favor (5 to 0) Approve evaluation of Superintendent John Rabadu
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0:22 Can I have an Can I have an okay?

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0:59 » Okay. Uh, I call the meeting to order at » Okay. Uh, I call the meeting to order at 10:01<00:01:00.879> a.m.<00:01:02.079> on<00:01:02.320> November<00:01:02.800> 3rd,<00:01:03.359> 2025. 10:01 a.m. on November 3rd, 2025. 10:01 a.m. on November 3rd, 2025. Uh,<00:01:05.600> this<00:01:05.760> meeting<00:01:06.000> is<00:01:06.240> being<00:01:06.400> recorded.

1:14 So, our first uh order of business is So, our first uh order of business is finalizing<00:01:15.760> the<00:01:16.320> evaluation<00:01:17.040> that<00:01:17.280> we<00:01:18.000> of<00:01:18.320> our finalizing the evaluation that we of our finalizing the evaluation that we of our superintendent<00:01:19.119> that<00:01:19.360> we<00:01:19.520> had<00:01:19.759> mostly superintendent that we had mostly superintendent that we had mostly completed<00:01:20.560> at<00:01:20.720> our<00:01:20.960> last<00:01:21.119> meeting.<00:01:22.320> Um, completed at our last meeting. Um, completed at our last meeting. Um, Melissa,<00:01:23.200> we<00:01:23.360> wanted<00:01:23.439> to<00:01:23.600> just<00:01:23.759> give<00:01:23.840> you<00:01:24.000> an Melissa, we wanted to just give you an Melissa, we wanted to just give you an opportunity<00:01:24.479> because<00:01:24.720> I<00:01:24.880> know<00:01:24.960> you<00:01:25.040> had<00:01:25.200> left opportunity because I know you had left opportunity because I know you had left a<00:01:25.439> little<00:01:25.600> early.<00:01:25.759> if<00:01:25.920> there's<00:01:26.159> anything<00:01:26.479> you a little early. if there’s anything you a little early. if there’s anything you wanted<00:01:26.960> to<00:01:28.240> edit<00:01:28.640> from<00:01:28.960> the<00:01:29.200> draft<00:01:29.840> that<00:01:30.159> we wanted to edit from the draft that we wanted to edit from the draft that we created. created. created. » The<00:01:32.479> only<00:01:32.640> question<00:01:32.799> I<00:01:33.040> had<00:01:33.119> was<00:01:33.280> on<00:01:33.520> the<00:01:33.759> first » The only question I had was on the first » The only question I had was on the first one,<00:01:34.479> like<00:01:34.799> telling<00:01:35.040> the<00:01:35.360> stories.<00:01:36.240> I<00:01:36.400> like one, like telling the stories. I like one, like telling the stories. I like the<00:01:36.799> idea<00:01:37.040> of<00:01:37.200> that<00:01:37.439> one,<00:01:37.600> but<00:01:38.560> I<00:01:38.799> feel<00:01:38.960> like<00:01:39.119> he the idea of that one, but I feel like he the idea of that one, but I feel like he fell<00:01:39.680> short<00:01:39.920> on<00:01:40.159> his<00:01:40.400> one<00:01:40.640> last<00:01:40.880> year<00:01:41.200> for<00:01:41.520> like fell short on his one last year for like fell short on his one last year for like sending<00:01:42.079> out<00:01:42.320> surveys<00:01:42.720> and<00:01:42.880> like<00:01:43.119> setting<00:01:43.360> the sending out surveys and like setting the sending out surveys and like setting the baseline<00:01:43.920> of<00:01:44.079> how<00:01:44.320> we<00:01:44.479> were<00:01:44.560> going<00:01:44.720> to<00:01:44.799> measure baseline of how we were going to measure baseline of how we were going to measure it.<00:01:45.600> So,<00:01:45.840> do<00:01:46.079> we<00:01:46.240> need<00:01:46.399> to<00:01:46.640> be<00:01:46.880> more it. So, do we need to be more it. So, do we need to be more specific<00:01:49.520> with<00:01:49.920> like<00:01:51.360> basically<00:01:51.759> we're specific with like basically we’re specific with like basically we’re saying<00:01:52.479> create<00:01:52.799> and<00:01:52.960> execute<00:01:53.200> a<00:01:53.439> storytelling saying create and execute a storytelling saying create and execute a storytelling program.<00:01:55.119> He<00:01:55.360> has<00:01:55.520> to<00:01:55.680> set<00:01:55.920> something<00:01:56.159> up. program. He has to set something up. program. He has to set something up. » I<00:01:57.840> That's<00:01:58.079> my<00:01:58.320> only<00:01:58.560> concern<00:01:59.119> with

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2:47 » And the motion, just for the record, was » And the motion, just for the record, was to<00:02:48.000> approve<00:02:48.319> the<00:02:48.959> uh<00:02:49.120> evaluation<00:02:49.840> of to approve the uh evaluation of to approve the uh evaluation of Superintendent<00:02:50.720> John<00:02:50.959> Rabadu. Superintendent John Rabadu. Superintendent John Rabadu. for<00:02:53.760> the<00:02:54.000> period<00:02:54.239> ending maybe 10:31 maybe 10:31 end<00:02:59.760> yeah<00:02:59.920> end<00:03:00.080> of<00:03:00.160> October end yeah end of October end yeah end of October » 25

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4:12 talked about and agreed upon was I would talked about and agreed upon was I would almost<00:04:13.439> read almost read almost read » read<00:04:14.560> into<00:04:14.879> the<00:04:15.040> record<00:04:15.200> at<00:04:15.439> that<00:04:15.680> meeting. » read into the record at that meeting. » read into the record at that meeting. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » But<00:04:16.880> not<00:04:17.199> I<00:04:17.440> mean<00:04:17.519> not<00:04:17.759> saying<00:04:18.000> not<00:04:18.160> talk<00:04:18.400> about » But not I mean not saying not talk about » But not I mean not saying not talk about Yeah.<00:04:19.280> It's<00:04:19.440> saying<00:04:19.600> you<00:04:19.759> can<00:04:19.919> stop<00:04:20.079> anybody Yeah. It’s saying you can stop anybody Yeah. It’s saying you can stop anybody from<00:04:20.560> deliberating,<00:04:20.959> but<00:04:21.120> we're<00:04:21.280> not.<00:04:21.759> We from deliberating, but we’re not. We from deliberating, but we’re not. We voted<00:04:22.240> it,<00:04:22.400> so<00:04:22.479> we're<00:04:22.639> not voted it, so we’re not voted it, so we’re not » We<00:04:23.280> shouldn't<00:04:23.520> be<00:04:23.600> anymore.<00:04:24.000> Yeah. » We shouldn’t be anymore. Yeah. » We shouldn’t be anymore. Yeah. Deliberation. Deliberation. Deliberation. » So,<00:04:25.360> that's<00:04:25.680> this.<00:04:26.880> Okay. » So, that’s this. Okay. » So, that’s this. Okay. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » All<00:04:29.040> right.<00:04:29.440> Um,<00:04:30.000> let<00:04:30.160> me<00:04:30.240> go<00:04:30.479> get<00:04:30.720> John. » All right. Um, let me go get John. » All right. Um, let me go get John. We<00:04:33.199> needed<00:04:33.360> a<00:04:33.520> few. We needed a few. We needed a few. » Probably<00:04:34.080> should<00:04:34.240> give<00:04:34.400> it<00:04:34.479> to<00:04:34.639> him. » Probably should give it to him. » Probably should give it to him. » I<00:04:36.160> was<00:04:36.639> just<00:04:36.880> to<00:04:37.040> talk<00:04:37.199> about<00:04:37.440> his<00:04:38.080> his<00:04:38.479> goals. » I was just to talk about his his goals. » I was just to talk about his his goals. » Yeah.<00:04:40.240> Just<00:04:40.400> give<00:04:40.639> him<00:04:40.639> a<00:04:40.800> copy<00:04:41.040> of<00:04:41.120> it.<00:04:42.160> All » Yeah. Just give him a copy of it. All » Yeah. Just give him a copy of it. All right.<00:04:42.479> I<00:04:42.639> can<00:04:42.720> send<00:04:42.800> it<00:04:42.960> to<00:04:43.120> him.

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5:41 makes you think you’re doing something makes you think you’re doing something and<00:05:42.080> actually and actually and actually » elevator<00:05:45.120> button. » elevator button. » elevator button. » Elevator<00:05:45.919> button. » Elevator button. » Elevator button. » Close.<00:05:46.560> Yeah.<00:05:46.800> Have<00:05:46.880> a<00:05:47.039> closed<00:05:47.280> door.

6:25 » Um, do we have an end time today? » Um, do we have an end time today? » Noon.

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7:04 » Waiting for John. » Waiting for John. » Oh,<00:07:04.960> I<00:07:05.120> have<00:07:05.280> I'm<00:07:05.440> sorry.<00:07:05.599> I<00:07:05.680> do<00:07:05.919> have<00:07:06.000> hard » Oh, I have I’m sorry. I do have hard » Oh, I have I’m sorry. I do have hard copies<00:07:06.639> that<00:07:06.800> he<00:07:06.960> gave<00:07:07.199> me. copies that he gave me. copies that he gave me. » You’re<00:07:08.800> not<00:07:08.960> sharing<00:07:09.280> your<00:07:09.520> screen<00:07:09.759> with<00:07:10.000> the » You’re not sharing your screen with the » You’re not sharing your screen with the public.<00:07:12.960> Are<00:07:13.120> you<00:07:14.000> email? public. Are you email? public. Are you email? » Probably. » Probably. » Probably. [laughter] Thank you. Thank you. » You’re<00:07:23.280> welcome.<00:07:24.000> I<00:07:24.080> always<00:07:24.319> get<00:07:24.479> nervous » You’re welcome. I always get nervous » You’re welcome. I always get nervous when<00:07:25.039> I<00:07:25.120> think when I think when I think a<00:07:27.360> different<00:07:27.599> window.<00:07:27.840> I'm<00:07:28.000> like, a different window. I’m like, a different window. I’m like, » I’m<00:07:29.039> scared.<00:07:29.919> Be<00:07:30.080> careful<00:07:30.560> there. » I’m scared. Be careful there. » I’m scared. Be careful there. » I<00:07:32.080> just<00:07:32.560> Yeah,<00:07:32.960> a<00:07:33.120> few<00:07:33.280> minutes<00:07:33.440> ago<00:07:33.680> there<00:07:33.840> was » I just Yeah, a few minutes ago there was » I just Yeah, a few minutes ago there was Coca<00:07:34.240> Melon<00:07:34.560> on<00:07:34.720> there.

8:00 It is interesting. I I do think Melissa It is interesting. I I do think Melissa that that that » that<00:08:03.039> is<00:08:03.280> just<00:08:03.520> this<00:08:03.840> being<00:08:04.319> shared<00:08:04.639> on<00:08:04.800> the » that is just this being shared on the » that is just this being shared on the screen.<00:08:05.599> What<00:08:06.000> what<00:08:06.240> you're<00:08:06.400> seeing<00:08:06.560> now<00:08:06.800> is screen. What what you’re seeing now is screen. What what you’re seeing now is Yeah.<00:08:07.840> two<00:08:08.080> separate<00:08:08.400> things. Yeah. two separate things. Yeah. two separate things. » Did<00:08:10.240> he<00:08:10.400> give<00:08:10.479> you<00:08:10.720> these? » Did he give you these? » Did he give you these? » Yes. » Yes. » Yes. » The<00:08:12.960> first<00:08:13.199> one » The first one » The first one I<00:08:16.000> know<00:08:16.160> he's<00:08:16.319> not<00:08:16.400> here.<00:08:16.639> We<00:08:16.800> could<00:08:16.960> ask<00:08:17.120> it, I know he’s not here. We could ask it, I know he’s not here. We could ask it, but<00:08:17.440> I<00:08:17.599> think<00:08:18.720> these<00:08:18.960> are<00:08:19.520> technically<00:08:19.840> it's but I think these are technically it’s but I think these are technically it’s due<00:08:20.319> 12:31,<00:08:21.039> isn't<00:08:21.199> it?<00:08:21.360> Is<00:08:21.520> it<00:08:21.599> a<00:08:21.759> graduation due 12:31, isn’t it? Is it a graduation due 12:31, isn’t it? Is it a graduation requirement? requirement? requirement? » Determination<00:08:25.360> policy<00:08:25.919> is<00:08:26.160> due.<00:08:26.879> Yes.

8:39 and yeah, again, the professional and yeah, again, the professional practice<00:08:39.519> goals,<00:08:39.839> he<00:08:40.719> he<00:08:40.800> he<00:08:41.279> wanted<00:08:41.599> to<00:08:41.680> get practice goals, he he he wanted to get practice goals, he he he wanted to get our<00:08:42.159> input<00:08:42.399> as<00:08:42.560> to<00:08:42.719> whether<00:08:42.880> that<00:08:43.039> should<00:08:43.200> be our input as to whether that should be our input as to whether that should be more<00:08:43.440> collaborative<00:08:43.919> or<00:08:44.080> whether<00:08:44.320> he<00:08:44.560> should more collaborative or whether he should more collaborative or whether he should offer<00:08:45.360> something. offer something. offer something. and<00:08:46.560> and<00:08:46.720> then<00:08:46.880> we<00:08:47.040> edit<00:08:47.360> it.<00:08:47.680> So

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10:12 takes otherwise I’ll end up eating takes otherwise I’ll end up eating Yeah.<00:10:13.279> Not. » So, John, is there a specific one you » So, John, is there a specific one you want<00:10:19.920> us<00:10:20.480> to<00:10:20.640> start<00:10:20.800> with? want us to start with? want us to start with? » So,<00:10:21.680> um<00:10:21.839> I<00:10:22.000> I<00:10:22.240> kind<00:10:22.399> of<00:10:22.480> put<00:10:22.640> them<00:10:22.720> in » So, um I I kind of put them in » So, um I I kind of put them in backwards.<00:10:23.519> So,<00:10:23.680> it's<00:10:23.839> three<00:10:24.079> three<00:10:24.399> two<00:10:24.640> one. backwards. So, it’s three three two one. backwards. So, it’s three three two one. Um<00:10:26.000> so,<00:10:26.320> the<00:10:26.959> student<00:10:27.279> learning<00:10:27.600> go<00:10:28.399> a Um so, the student learning go a Um so, the student learning go a question<00:10:28.800> before<00:10:29.040> we<00:10:29.200> jump<00:10:29.360> into<00:10:29.680> this. question before we jump into this. question before we jump into this. » Um<00:10:32.160> I<00:10:32.640> have<00:10:32.880> been<00:10:33.040> through<00:10:33.200> this<00:10:34.000> and<00:10:34.560> read » Um I have been through this and read » Um I have been through this and read through<00:10:34.959> it<00:10:35.120> and<00:10:35.360> I'm<00:10:35.600> still<00:10:36.480> a<00:10:36.720> little<00:10:36.880> bit through it and I’m still a little bit through it and I’m still a little bit lost<00:10:37.920> in<00:10:38.160> terms<00:10:38.320> of<00:10:38.480> this<00:10:38.880> summit<00:10:39.200> of<00:10:39.279> evaluate lost in terms of this summit of evaluate lost in terms of this summit of evaluate like<00:10:39.920> the<00:10:40.160> whole<00:10:40.320> process<00:10:40.640> here.<00:10:40.880> one<00:10:41.200> has like the whole process here. one has like the whole process here. one has these<00:10:41.760> three<00:10:42.079> main<00:10:42.399> goals,<00:10:42.880> right? these three main goals, right? these three main goals, right? » But<00:10:43.760> then<00:10:43.920> there's<00:10:44.160> all<00:10:44.399> we<00:10:44.640> were<00:10:44.720> talking » But then there’s all we were talking » But then there’s all we were talking about<00:10:45.040> this<00:10:45.279> there's<00:10:45.519> all<00:10:45.680> this<00:10:46.160> these<00:10:46.640> other about this there’s all this these other about this there’s all this these other sort<00:10:47.200> of<00:10:47.360> sub<00:10:47.920> goals sort of sub goals sort of sub goals » so<00:10:50.160> how<00:10:50.240> how<00:10:50.480> does<00:10:50.640> that<00:10:51.600> roll<00:10:51.920> up<00:10:52.079> to<00:10:52.240> the » so how how does that roll up to the » so how how does that roll up to the goal?<00:10:52.560> I<00:10:52.720> mean<00:10:52.800> how<00:10:53.040> what<00:10:53.200> has<00:10:53.360> your<00:10:53.519> been<00:10:54.000> what goal? I mean how what has your been what goal? I mean how what has your been what has<00:10:54.240> been<00:10:54.480> your has been your has been your » So<00:10:55.120> I<00:10:55.360> mean<00:10:56.320> think<00:10:57.120> about<00:10:57.279> a<00:10:57.440> little<00:10:57.600> bit<00:10:58.000> um

10:58 » So I mean think about a little bit um » So I mean think about a little bit um the<00:10:58.880> the<00:10:59.760> um<00:11:00.320> the<00:11:00.640> rest<00:11:00.720> of<00:11:00.800> it<00:11:01.040> is<00:11:01.360> really<00:11:01.600> the the the um the rest of it is really the the the um the rest of it is really the standards.<00:11:02.160> So<00:11:02.320> like<00:11:02.480> those<00:11:02.880> those<00:11:03.040> are<00:11:03.120> the standards. So like those those are the standards. So like those those are the standards<00:11:03.600> are<00:11:03.760> set<00:11:04.000> by<00:11:04.240> you<00:11:04.399> know<00:11:04.560> the<00:11:04.640> state standards are set by you know the state standards are set by you know the state saying<00:11:05.279> that<00:11:05.440> we<00:11:05.600> have<00:11:05.680> to<00:11:05.839> make<00:11:05.920> sure<00:11:06.000> we<00:11:06.240> have saying that we have to make sure we have saying that we have to make sure we have the<00:11:07.040> fiscal<00:11:07.440> management<00:11:07.839> and<00:11:08.000> all<00:11:08.160> that the fiscal management and all that the fiscal management and all that stuff.<00:11:08.720> And<00:11:09.600> it's<00:11:09.920> hard<00:11:10.160> because<00:11:10.399> there's<00:11:10.640> no stuff. And it’s hard because there’s no stuff. And it’s hard because there’s no way<00:11:10.959> to<00:11:11.120> like<00:11:11.360> really<00:11:12.000> in<00:11:12.240> my<00:11:12.399> opinion<00:11:12.720> there's way to like really in my opinion there’s way to like really in my opinion there’s no<00:11:13.120> way<00:11:13.200> to<00:11:13.360> like<00:11:13.920> address<00:11:14.320> every<00:11:14.560> standard no way to like address every standard no way to like address every standard effect<00:11:15.360> all<00:11:15.440> of<00:11:15.440> a<00:11:15.600> sudden.<00:11:15.920> I<00:11:16.000> mean<00:11:16.079> that's effect all of a sudden. I mean that’s effect all of a sudden. I mean that’s all<00:11:16.399> I<00:11:16.560> really<00:11:16.720> do<00:11:16.959> all<00:11:17.120> day<00:11:17.360> long. all I really do all day long. all I really do all day long. » So<00:11:19.040> it's<00:11:19.279> more<00:11:19.519> like<00:11:20.640> it's<00:11:20.959> kind<00:11:21.120> of<00:11:21.440> it's<00:11:21.600> kind » So it’s more like it’s kind of it’s kind » So it’s more like it’s kind of it’s kind of<00:11:21.920> some<00:11:22.079> of<00:11:22.160> it's<00:11:22.320> anecdotal<00:11:22.800> like<00:11:22.959> you<00:11:23.120> look of some of it’s anecdotal like you look of some of it’s anecdotal like you look at<00:11:23.440> and<00:11:23.600> say<00:11:23.839> well<00:11:24.160> you<00:11:24.320> know<00:11:24.399> the<00:11:24.640> standard at and say well you know the standard at and say well you know the standard for for for » well<00:11:26.720> it<00:11:26.880> says<00:11:27.040> like<00:11:27.200> for<00:11:27.279> instance<00:11:27.519> say » well it says like for instance say » well it says like for instance say standard<00:11:28.000> indicators<00:11:28.480> are<00:11:28.640> for<00:11:28.800> effective standard indicators are for effective standard indicators are for effective use<00:11:29.440> relationship<00:11:30.240> superintendent<00:11:30.800> should use relationship superintendent should use relationship superintendent should you<00:11:31.120> identify<00:11:31.440> one<00:11:31.600> to<00:11:31.839> two<00:11:32.000> focus<00:11:32.320> indicators you identify one to two focus indicators you identify one to two focus indicators per<00:11:33.279> standard. per standard. per standard. » Yeah.<00:11:34.399> So<00:11:35.120> you<00:11:35.279> know<00:11:35.600> we<00:11:35.920> didn't<00:11:36.079> do<00:11:36.240> that<00:11:36.399> last » Yeah. So you know we didn’t do that last » Yeah. So you know we didn’t do that last year.<00:11:36.880> So<00:11:37.040> I<00:11:37.200> mean<00:11:37.360> I<00:11:37.519> I<00:11:37.920> you<00:11:38.079> know<00:11:38.160> I<00:11:38.399> don't year. So I mean I I you know I don’t year. So I mean I I you know I don’t think<00:11:38.720> I<00:11:38.880> mean<00:11:39.120> maybe<00:11:39.600> before<00:11:39.839> we<00:11:40.000> do<00:11:40.160> that<00:11:40.399> and think I mean maybe before we do that and think I mean maybe before we do that and that<00:11:41.279> more<00:11:41.440> focus<00:11:41.760> on<00:11:41.920> how<00:11:42.160> we<00:11:42.560> uh<00:11:42.800> you<00:11:42.880> know

11:43 that more focus on how we uh you know that more focus on how we uh you know which which<00:11:43.519> are<00:11:43.920> addressed

11:50 like probably good for you guys to tell like probably good for you guys to tell me<00:11:50.800> hey<00:11:51.040> what<00:11:51.360> what's<00:11:51.680> some<00:11:51.760> of<00:11:51.839> the<00:11:51.920> evidence me hey what what’s some of the evidence me hey what what’s some of the evidence from<00:11:52.560> that<00:11:52.720> for<00:11:52.959> those<00:11:53.200> things<00:11:53.519> right<00:11:54.320> the from that for those things right the from that for those things right the goals<00:11:54.720> are<00:11:54.880> pretty<00:11:55.200> straightforward<00:11:55.680> I<00:11:55.920> think goals are pretty straightforward I think goals are pretty straightforward I think you<00:11:56.320> know<00:11:56.399> and<00:11:56.640> then<00:11:57.040> um you know and then um you know and then um [clears throat]<00:11:59.040> some<00:11:59.279> of<00:11:59.360> the<00:11:59.519> dovetails [clears throat] some of the dovetails [clears throat] some of the dovetails like<00:12:00.240> for<00:12:00.399> instance<00:12:00.720> like<00:12:01.120> um like for instance like um like for instance like um some<00:12:03.200> of<00:12:03.279> some<00:12:03.600> of<00:12:03.680> the<00:12:03.839> standards<00:12:04.800> you<00:12:04.959> know some of some of the standards you know some of some of the standards you know fist<00:12:05.440> management<00:12:06.240> standards<00:12:06.560> this<00:12:07.519> help<00:12:07.839> some fist management standards this help some fist management standards this help some of<00:12:08.160> the<00:12:08.480> but<00:12:09.519> um<00:12:10.320> you<00:12:10.480> know<00:12:10.560> it's<00:12:10.800> more<00:12:11.040> more of the but um you know it’s more more of the but um you know it’s more more like<00:12:11.440> you<00:12:11.600> guys<00:12:11.760> tell<00:12:11.920> me<00:12:12.079> like like you guys tell me like like you guys tell me like for<00:12:14.320> deliverables<00:12:15.279> for<00:12:16.320> some<00:12:16.560> like<00:12:16.800> hey<00:12:17.120> show for deliverables for some like hey show for deliverables for some like hey show me<00:12:17.680> this<00:12:18.000> in<00:12:18.240> order<00:12:18.480> for<00:12:18.720> me<00:12:19.040> to<00:12:19.440> understand me this in order for me to understand me this in order for me to understand you<00:12:20.399> at<00:12:20.560> that<00:12:20.800> standard<00:12:21.760> and<00:12:22.079> like<00:12:22.399> like<00:12:22.639> for you at that standard and like like for you at that standard and like like for instance<00:12:23.120> with<00:12:23.279> the<00:12:23.519> teachers<00:12:24.880> several<00:12:25.279> years instance with the teachers several years instance with the teachers several years ago<00:12:25.839> and<00:12:26.079> I<00:12:26.160> I<00:12:26.480> don't<00:12:26.560> know<00:12:26.639> if<00:12:26.880> they<00:12:27.200> had<00:12:27.360> done ago and I I don’t know if they had done ago and I I don’t know if they had done it<00:12:27.600> in<00:12:27.839> Marvel<00:12:28.320> but<00:12:28.639> several<00:12:28.800> years<00:12:28.959> ago<00:12:29.200> the it in Marvel but several years ago the it in Marvel but several years ago the evaluation<00:12:30.079> piece<00:12:30.399> came<00:12:30.560> out<00:12:31.279> most<00:12:31.600> districts evaluation piece came out most districts evaluation piece came out most districts went<00:12:32.240> through<00:12:33.200> like<00:12:33.279> a<00:12:33.440> million<00:12:34.000> a<00:12:34.160> million went through like a million a million went through like a million a million standard<00:12:34.720> million<00:12:34.959> touch<00:12:35.200> points<00:12:35.920> we<00:12:36.240> did<00:12:36.639> um

12:37 standard million touch points we did um standard million touch points we did um you<00:12:37.360> know you know you know what<00:12:39.040> we<00:12:39.120> would<00:12:39.279> be<00:12:39.360> using<00:12:39.680> which<00:12:39.839> one<00:12:40.480> focus what we would be using which one focus what we would be using which one focus on<00:12:41.519> and<00:12:41.760> then<00:12:42.320> did<00:12:42.480> that<00:12:42.880> a<00:12:43.040> lot<00:12:43.279> a<00:12:43.440> lot<00:12:43.519> of on and then did that a lot a lot of on and then did that a lot a lot of districts<00:12:44.079> did<00:12:44.240> that<00:12:44.480> and<00:12:44.639> then<00:12:45.839> they<00:12:46.079> updated districts did that and then they updated districts did that and then they updated that<00:12:47.920> they<00:12:48.720> had<00:12:48.880> updated<00:12:49.360> that<00:12:50.160> and<00:12:50.480> so<00:12:50.880> kind that they had updated that and so kind that they had updated that and so kind of<00:12:51.200> realized<00:12:51.519> there<00:12:51.680> was<00:12:51.760> a<00:12:51.839> lot<00:12:51.920> of of realized there was a lot of of realized there was a lot of redundancy<00:12:53.120> and<00:12:53.360> it's<00:12:53.600> supposed<00:12:53.760> to<00:12:54.000> dovetail redundancy and it’s supposed to dovetail redundancy and it’s supposed to dovetail with<00:12:54.959> mine<00:12:55.440> but<00:12:55.680> again<00:12:56.240> it's<00:12:56.399> still<00:12:56.560> a<00:12:56.720> lot<00:12:56.800> of with mine but again it’s still a lot of with mine but again it’s still a lot of redundancy<00:12:57.440> and<00:12:57.519> it<00:12:57.760> doesn't<00:12:58.000> kind<00:12:58.160> of redundancy and it doesn’t kind of redundancy and it doesn’t kind of necessarily<00:12:59.200> match<00:12:59.920> exactly<00:13:00.320> what<00:13:00.560> the necessarily match exactly what the necessarily match exactly what the teachers<00:13:01.200> illustrated<00:13:02.079> so<00:13:03.120> um<00:13:03.519> that's<00:13:03.839> all teachers illustrated so um that’s all teachers illustrated so um that’s all all<00:13:04.560> of<00:13:04.639> that<00:13:04.800> is<00:13:04.959> to<00:13:05.120> say<00:13:05.360> that's<00:13:06.079> thought all of that is to say that’s thought all of that is to say that’s thought process<00:13:06.639> behind<00:13:07.120> teacher<00:13:07.760> head<00:13:07.920> of<00:13:08.079> vowels, process behind teacher head of vowels, process behind teacher head of vowels, administrative<00:13:09.120> vows,<00:13:09.360> superintendent<00:13:09.760> of administrative vows, superintendent of administrative vows, superintendent of vowels. vowels. vowels. I<00:13:12.000> don't<00:13:12.160> think<00:13:12.240> they<00:13:12.399> had<00:13:12.480> the<00:13:12.639> will<00:13:12.880> and<00:13:13.040> kind I don’t think they had the will and kind I don’t think they had the will and kind of<00:13:13.360> made<00:13:13.519> it<00:13:13.760> all<00:13:13.920> kind<00:13:14.079> of<00:13:14.160> mesh,<00:13:14.639> you<00:13:14.720> know. of made it all kind of mesh, you know. of made it all kind of mesh, you know. So,<00:13:15.600> it<00:13:15.760> doesn't<00:13:16.079> it<00:13:16.320> kind<00:13:16.480> of<00:13:16.720> doesn't<00:13:17.120> align So, it doesn’t it kind of doesn’t align So, it doesn’t it kind of doesn’t align the<00:13:18.560> thinking. the thinking. the thinking. So,<00:13:21.040> it's<00:13:21.360> more,<00:13:21.839> you<00:13:22.000> know,<00:13:22.480> I<00:13:22.639> mean,<00:13:22.800> I've

13:22 So, it’s more, you know, I mean, I’ve So, it’s more, you know, I mean, I’ve been<00:13:23.120> through<00:13:23.279> a<00:13:23.440> million<00:13:23.680> different<00:13:23.920> school been through a million different school been through a million different school committees<00:13:24.399> and<00:13:24.560> they<00:13:24.639> all<00:13:24.720> do<00:13:24.959> different<00:13:26.000> by committees and they all do different by committees and they all do different by no<00:13:26.880> one<00:13:27.120> way<00:13:27.279> to<00:13:27.440> do<00:13:27.519> it.<00:13:28.160> I've<00:13:28.399> had<00:13:28.560> school no one way to do it. I’ve had school no one way to do it. I’ve had school committees<00:13:29.120> say<00:13:29.279> like<00:13:29.839> that's<00:13:29.920> what<00:13:30.079> the committees say like that’s what the committees say like that’s what the goals<00:13:30.560> are<00:13:30.800> and<00:13:31.040> then,<00:13:31.600> you<00:13:31.839> know,<00:13:32.240> um<00:13:32.480> they've goals are and then, you know, um they’ve goals are and then, you know, um they’ve either<00:13:33.600> talk<00:13:33.839> to<00:13:34.000> administrators<00:13:34.639> or<00:13:34.800> maybe either talk to administrators or maybe either talk to administrators or maybe survey<00:13:35.360> the<00:13:35.519> administrators.<00:13:36.000> Hey,<00:13:36.160> how<00:13:36.320> do survey the administrators. Hey, how do survey the administrators. Hey, how do you<00:13:36.480> think<00:13:36.639> John<00:13:36.880> does<00:13:37.040> in<00:13:37.200> these<00:13:37.440> areas?<00:13:38.320> Um, you think John does in these areas? Um, you think John does in these areas? Um, sometimes<00:13:39.519> they<00:13:39.680> do,<00:13:40.000> sometimes<00:13:40.240> they<00:13:40.480> don't. sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t. sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes<00:13:41.440> it's<00:13:41.680> anecdotal,<00:13:42.399> sometimes<00:13:43.040> they Sometimes it’s anecdotal, sometimes they Sometimes it’s anecdotal, sometimes they get<00:13:44.720> you<00:13:45.040> not<00:13:45.200> guessed,<00:13:45.440> but<00:13:45.680> just<00:13:45.920> based<00:13:46.320> upon get you not guessed, but just based upon get you not guessed, but just based upon my<00:13:47.279> you<00:13:47.440> know<00:13:47.839> school<00:13:48.079> committee<00:13:48.399> meetings my you know school committee meetings my you know school committee meetings and<00:13:48.880> presentations and presentations and presentations and<00:13:50.560> all<00:13:50.800> stuff<00:13:51.760> like<00:13:52.560> say<00:13:53.839> special<00:13:54.079> ed and all stuff like say special ed and all stuff like say special ed student<00:13:55.040> services<00:13:55.760> have<00:13:56.000> all<00:13:56.240> that<00:13:56.880> kind<00:13:57.120> of student services have all that kind of student services have all that kind of come<00:13:57.519> together.

14:03 So it kind of funnels down that way. So So it kind of funnels down that way. So there’s<00:14:04.240> really<00:14:04.480> no<00:14:04.720> one<00:14:05.040> cookie<00:14:05.360> cutter<00:14:05.600> way there’s really no one cookie cutter way there’s really no one cookie cutter way to to to the<00:14:07.440> best<00:14:07.680> way<00:14:07.839> inside.<00:14:08.240> I<00:14:08.399> think<00:14:08.560> it<00:14:08.720> depends the best way inside. I think it depends the best way inside. I think it depends on<00:14:09.040> if<00:14:09.199> you on if you on if you » I<00:14:10.399> think<00:14:11.519> when<00:14:11.680> you're<00:14:11.920> looking<00:14:12.160> at<00:14:12.480> like » I think when you’re looking at like » I think when you’re looking at like looking<00:14:13.519> at<00:14:13.680> the<00:14:13.839> form<00:14:14.639> it<00:14:14.959> does<00:14:15.519> say<00:14:16.480> and<00:14:16.720> this looking at the form it does say and this looking at the form it does say and this is<00:14:17.040> just<00:14:17.279> the<00:14:17.440> form<00:14:18.800> to<00:14:19.279> align<00:14:19.760> to<00:14:20.079> one<00:14:20.320> focus is just the form to align to one focus is just the form to align to one focus indicator<00:14:21.440> and<00:14:21.760> I<00:14:22.160> think<00:14:22.720> that<00:14:23.760> it<00:14:24.000> might<00:14:24.240> be indicator and I think that it might be indicator and I think that it might be helpful<00:14:24.800> for<00:14:25.040> you<00:14:25.920> to<00:14:26.160> pick<00:14:26.880> one<00:14:27.360> or<00:14:28.399> who helpful for you to pick one or who helpful for you to pick one or who because<00:14:29.120> it<00:14:29.440> allows<00:14:29.760> us<00:14:30.000> to<00:14:30.240> focus<00:14:30.720> our because it allows us to focus our because it allows us to focus our comments<00:14:32.000> on<00:14:33.120> maybe<00:14:33.519> things<00:14:33.839> that<00:14:34.720> you<00:14:35.440> think comments on maybe things that you think comments on maybe things that you think you<00:14:35.920> might<00:14:36.720> value<00:14:37.120> feedback<00:14:37.760> on<00:14:38.240> that you might value feedback on that you might value feedback on that » um<00:14:40.079> you<00:14:40.240> know<00:14:40.320> if<00:14:40.560> you're<00:14:40.800> saying<00:14:41.040> oh<00:14:41.279> it's » um you know if you’re saying oh it’s » um you know if you’re saying oh it’s really<00:14:41.680> important<00:14:42.079> for really important for really important for that<00:14:43.920> I'm<00:14:44.160> making<00:14:44.480> datainformed<00:14:45.440> decision that I’m making datainformed decision that I’m making datainformed decision making<00:14:46.399> then<00:14:47.199> then<00:14:47.680> that<00:14:48.000> allows<00:14:48.320> us<00:14:48.560> to<00:14:48.720> say making then then that allows us to say making then then that allows us to say okay<00:14:49.199> well<00:14:49.760> now<00:14:50.000> we<00:14:50.240> know<00:14:50.320> that<00:14:50.560> we<00:14:50.720> can<00:14:50.880> focus

14:51 okay well now we know that we can focus okay well now we know that we can focus our<00:14:51.360> our<00:14:52.000> feedback<00:14:52.480> on<00:14:53.279> that<00:14:53.600> specific<00:14:54.079> thing our our feedback on that specific thing our our feedback on that specific thing and<00:14:54.480> not<00:14:54.720> have<00:14:54.959> to<00:14:56.320> talk<00:14:56.560> about<00:14:56.720> something and not have to talk about something and not have to talk about something that<00:14:57.199> maybe<00:14:57.440> isn't<00:14:57.680> as<00:14:57.920> valuable<00:14:58.240> to<00:14:58.399> you that maybe isn’t as valuable to you that maybe isn’t as valuable to you » would<00:15:00.399> the<00:15:00.560> com<00:15:00.880> would<00:15:01.040> the<00:15:01.199> committee<00:15:01.600> be » would the com would the committee be » would the com would the committee be comfortable comfortable comfortable in<00:15:04.079> you<00:15:04.480> doing<00:15:04.800> this<00:15:05.040> together<00:15:05.440> today<00:15:06.000> or in you doing this together today or in you doing this together today or Yeah,<00:15:07.920> the<00:15:08.079> goals<00:15:08.320> and<00:15:08.560> then<00:15:08.639> maybe<00:15:08.880> also<00:15:09.199> go Yeah, the goals and then maybe also go Yeah, the goals and then maybe also go through<00:15:10.079> I<00:15:10.240> mean<00:15:10.399> I<00:15:10.639> don't<00:15:10.720> think<00:15:10.880> it<00:15:10.959> would<00:15:11.040> be through I mean I don’t think it would be through I mean I don’t think it would be a<00:15:11.279> huge<00:15:11.440> exercise<00:15:11.839> but<00:15:12.079> maybe<00:15:12.560> together a huge exercise but maybe together a huge exercise but maybe together » or<00:15:13.920> you<00:15:14.160> you<00:15:14.320> know<00:15:14.480> suggest<00:15:14.800> that<00:15:14.959> when<00:15:15.120> we » or you you know suggest that when we » or you you know suggest that when we walk<00:15:15.440> out<00:15:15.519> of<00:15:15.680> here<00:15:15.920> we've<00:15:16.240> got<00:15:16.320> the<00:15:16.480> goals<00:15:16.720> and walk out of here we’ve got the goals and walk out of here we’ve got the goals and we’ve<00:15:17.120> got<00:15:17.279> one<00:15:17.440> to<00:15:17.600> two<00:15:17.760> focus<00:15:18.079> indicator<00:15:18.480> I we’ve got one to two focus indicator I we’ve got one to two focus indicator I mean<00:15:18.639> it's<00:15:18.800> only<00:15:19.040> at<00:15:19.279> most mean it’s only at most mean it’s only at most that<00:15:21.040> we<00:15:21.199> would<00:15:21.360> need that we would need that we would need » yeah<00:15:21.839> I<00:15:22.000> don't<00:15:22.079> think<00:15:22.160> we<00:15:22.320> have<00:15:22.399> to<00:15:22.560> go<00:15:22.720> that<00:15:22.959> we » yeah I don’t think we have to go that we » yeah I don’t think we have to go that we should<00:15:23.760> move<00:15:24.160> forward<00:15:24.639> on<00:15:24.880> the<00:15:25.040> new<00:15:25.199> goals<00:15:25.760> not should move forward on the new goals not should move forward on the new goals not go<00:15:26.160> back

15:34 » but that’s so that we are that great if » but that’s so that we are that great if we<00:15:34.160> don't<00:15:34.320> do<00:15:34.399> it<00:15:34.560> today<00:15:35.680> you<00:15:35.839> know<00:15:36.000> might<00:15:36.160> not we don’t do it today you know might not we don’t do it today you know might not get<00:15:36.800> in<00:15:36.880> that<00:15:37.120> way. get in that way. get in that way. But<00:15:39.040> I<00:15:39.279> don't<00:15:39.279> know<00:15:39.360> if<00:15:39.680> is<00:15:39.839> the<00:15:40.000> committee But I don’t know if is the committee But I don’t know if is the committee comfortable<00:15:40.800> with<00:15:40.959> that. comfortable with that. comfortable with that. » I<00:15:43.760> also<00:15:44.000> think<00:15:44.079> we<00:15:44.320> should<00:15:44.480> talk<00:15:44.639> about » I also think we should talk about » I also think we should talk about whether<00:15:45.199> we<00:15:45.440> want<00:15:46.320> to<00:15:46.560> do<00:15:47.120> another<00:15:47.600> one<00:15:47.920> year whether we want to do another one year whether we want to do another one year review<00:15:48.560> cycle<00:15:48.959> or<00:15:49.120> whether<00:15:49.440> we<00:15:49.680> want<00:15:50.800> two<00:15:50.959> year review cycle or whether we want two year review cycle or whether we want two year because<00:15:51.759> that<00:15:52.000> is<00:15:52.160> an<00:15:52.320> option<00:15:52.560> that's because that is an option that’s because that is an option that’s available<00:15:53.279> to<00:15:53.440> us<00:15:53.600> and<00:15:53.759> I<00:15:53.920> think<00:15:54.000> as<00:15:54.240> we're available to us and I think as we’re available to us and I think as we’re setting<00:15:54.639> goals<00:15:54.959> and<00:15:55.040> picking<00:15:55.360> footprints setting goals and picking footprints setting goals and picking footprints indicators<00:15:56.720> that's<00:15:56.959> something<00:15:57.199> we<00:15:57.360> should indicators that’s something we should indicators that’s something we should also<00:15:57.680> do.<00:15:57.839> You<00:15:58.000> could<00:15:58.160> also<00:15:58.480> do<00:15:59.279> um<00:15:59.519> not<00:15:59.759> to also do. You could also do um not to also do. You could also do um not to belabor<00:16:01.279> this<00:16:01.440> point<00:16:01.600> but<00:16:01.759> you<00:16:01.920> could<00:16:02.079> do<00:16:02.240> a belabor this point but you could do a belabor this point but you could do a effectively<00:16:03.199> a<00:16:04.560> you<00:16:04.720> know<00:16:04.880> 18month<00:16:05.839> bold effectively a you know 18month bold effectively a you know 18month bold which<00:16:06.320> would<00:16:06.480> be<00:16:06.720> say<00:16:06.880> from<00:16:07.120> October<00:16:07.600> of<00:16:07.920> 25<00:16:09.120> to which would be say from October of 25 to which would be say from October of 25 to May<00:16:09.920> or<00:16:10.160> June<00:16:10.399> of<00:16:10.720> 20<00:16:11.920> um May or June of 20 um May or June of 20 um 11<00:16:14.800> um<00:16:15.040> which<00:16:15.519> kind<00:16:15.759> of<00:16:15.839> get<00:16:16.000> you<00:16:16.160> back<00:16:16.399> on<00:16:17.199> that 11 um which kind of get you back on that 11 um which kind of get you back on that track<00:16:17.920> and<00:16:18.240> it<00:16:18.480> also<00:16:18.720> gets<00:16:19.040> back<00:16:19.279> to<00:16:19.759> the

16:19 track and it also gets back to the track and it also gets back to the sitting<00:16:20.399> committee<00:16:21.120> doing<00:16:21.360> the<00:16:21.519> evaluation sitting committee doing the evaluation sitting committee doing the evaluation in<00:16:23.839> say<00:16:24.399> June<00:16:24.639> or<00:16:24.880> whatever<00:16:25.120> before<00:16:25.360> the in say June or whatever before the in say June or whatever before the election<00:16:26.000> you<00:16:26.399> have<00:16:26.800> had<00:16:27.440> in<00:16:27.519> and<00:16:27.920> we<00:16:28.079> didn't election you have had in and we didn’t election you have had in and we didn’t know<00:16:28.320> anybody. know anybody. know anybody. » No,<00:16:28.959> I<00:16:29.120> think<00:16:29.199> that<00:16:29.680> you<00:16:29.839> like<00:16:29.920> that. » No, I think that you like that. » No, I think that you like that. » No,<00:16:30.399> I<00:16:30.480> like<00:16:30.560> that<00:16:30.800> idea.<00:16:31.680> We<00:16:31.920> kind<00:16:32.079> of<00:16:32.800> get » No, I like that idea. We kind of get » No, I like that idea. We kind of get that<00:16:33.279> a<00:16:33.440> little<00:16:33.600> bit<00:16:34.079> um<00:16:34.240> just<00:16:34.560> to<00:16:34.720> see that a little bit um just to see that a little bit um just to see again<00:16:37.199> I'm<00:16:37.440> fine<00:16:37.680> with<00:16:37.920> whatever<00:16:38.480> makes again I’m fine with whatever makes again I’m fine with whatever makes sense.<00:16:39.040> I<00:16:39.360> had<00:16:39.519> one<00:16:39.839> I've<00:16:40.079> done<00:16:40.240> it sense. I had one I’ve done it sense. I had one I’ve done it differently.<00:16:40.720> I've<00:16:40.880> done<00:16:41.040> it<00:16:41.199> October differently. I’ve done it October differently. I’ve done it October October.<00:16:41.920> I've<00:16:42.079> done<00:16:42.320> it October. I’ve done it October. I’ve done it in<00:16:44.240> June. in June. in June. I<00:16:47.120> don't<00:16:47.199> know.<00:16:47.759> But<00:16:48.000> yeah,<00:16:48.399> the<00:16:48.560> election's I don’t know. But yeah, the election’s I don’t know. But yeah, the election’s done<00:16:49.360> kind<00:16:49.519> of done kind of done kind of » shouldn’t<00:16:50.800> be<00:16:50.959> the<00:16:51.120> driving<00:16:51.360> factor,<00:16:51.680> but<00:16:51.839> it » shouldn’t be the driving factor, but it » shouldn’t be the driving factor, but it didn’t<00:16:52.240> because<00:16:52.560> you<00:16:52.639> know<00:16:52.880> like didn’t because you know like didn’t because you know like » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. One<00:16:56.959> other<00:16:57.199> thing<00:16:57.360> I<00:16:57.600> forgot<00:16:57.920> to<00:16:58.079> throw<00:16:58.320> out One other thing I forgot to throw out One other thing I forgot to throw out there<00:16:59.120> bearing<00:16:59.519> the<00:16:59.680> lead<00:16:59.920> here.<00:17:00.560> Um,<00:17:01.600> and there bearing the lead here. Um, and there bearing the lead here. Um, and John<00:17:02.160> is<00:17:02.240> in<00:17:02.399> here,<00:17:02.480> but<00:17:02.639> I<00:17:02.720> forgot<00:17:02.959> to<00:17:03.040> mention John is in here, but I forgot to mention John is in here, but I forgot to mention this<00:17:03.360> last<00:17:03.519> time<00:17:03.680> that<00:17:04.079> um,<00:17:04.400> for<00:17:04.640> the this last time that um, for the this last time that um, for the committee<00:17:05.199> to<00:17:05.439> consider<00:17:06.640> um,<00:17:06.959> either<00:17:07.280> now<00:17:07.439> or

17:07 committee to consider um, either now or committee to consider um, either now or at<00:17:07.679> some<00:17:07.919> point<00:17:08.400> um,<00:17:08.480> at<00:17:08.720> any<00:17:08.880> point<00:17:09.039> whether at some point um, at any point whether at some point um, at any point whether you<00:17:09.520> we<00:17:09.679> want<00:17:10.160> we<00:17:10.480> want<00:17:10.720> to<00:17:10.880> extend<00:17:11.199> John's you we want we want to extend John’s you we want we want to extend John’s contract.<00:17:12.240> So,<00:17:12.480> that's<00:17:12.720> also<00:17:13.039> an<00:17:13.280> option, contract. So, that’s also an option, contract. So, that’s also an option, right?<00:17:14.160> John<00:17:14.400> has<00:17:14.559> the<00:17:14.720> three-year<00:17:15.120> contract. right? John has the three-year contract. right? John has the three-year contract. Um,<00:17:16.240> but<00:17:16.480> it<00:17:16.720> is<00:17:16.880> possible<00:17:17.199> to<00:17:17.360> extend<00:17:17.679> the Um, but it is possible to extend the Um, but it is possible to extend the contract<00:17:18.880> um,<00:17:19.120> up<00:17:19.280> to<00:17:19.439> four<00:17:19.679> years<00:17:19.839> or<00:17:20.000> five contract um, up to four years or five contract um, up to four years or five years.<00:17:20.559> So,<00:17:20.880> I'm<00:17:21.120> not<00:17:21.360> saying<00:17:21.600> that<00:17:21.839> right years. So, I’m not saying that right years. So, I’m not saying that right now,<00:17:22.319> but<00:17:22.880> um<00:17:23.199> I<00:17:23.520> don't<00:17:24.000> mean<00:17:24.319> John<00:17:24.640> can now, but um I don’t mean John can now, but um I don’t mean John can certainly<00:17:25.439> similarly<00:17:25.919> dismiss<00:17:26.319> that,<00:17:26.640> but<00:17:26.959> if certainly similarly dismiss that, but if certainly similarly dismiss that, but if he<00:17:27.439> doesn't,<00:17:28.400> um<00:17:28.559> it's<00:17:28.799> something<00:17:29.120> to he doesn’t, um it’s something to he doesn’t, um it’s something to consider<00:17:29.919> at<00:17:30.080> all.<00:17:30.320> And<00:17:30.640> it<00:17:30.799> can<00:17:31.120> by<00:17:31.280> the<00:17:31.360> way, consider at all. And it can by the way, consider at all. And it can by the way, it<00:17:31.520> can<00:17:31.600> happen<00:17:31.840> at<00:17:32.080> any<00:17:32.320> point.<00:17:33.120> Um<00:17:33.919> I<00:17:34.080> I<00:17:34.480> think it can happen at any point. Um I I think it can happen at any point. Um I I think I<00:17:35.360> would<00:17:35.520> just<00:17:35.679> throw<00:17:35.760> it<00:17:35.919> out<00:17:36.080> there<00:17:36.240> as I would just throw it out there as I would just throw it out there as consideration.<00:17:37.840> Um<00:17:38.320> I<00:17:38.640> would<00:17:38.880> suggest<00:17:40.080> that consideration. Um I would suggest that consideration. Um I would suggest that if<00:17:40.799> it<00:17:41.039> is<00:17:41.200> going<00:17:41.280> to<00:17:41.440> be<00:17:41.520> considered<00:17:41.919> at<00:17:42.160> some if it is going to be considered at some if it is going to be considered at some point<00:17:42.640> and<00:17:42.799> it<00:17:43.039> also<00:17:43.280> could<00:17:43.520> be<00:17:43.760> conversations point and it also could be conversations point and it also could be conversations offline<00:17:44.720> with<00:17:44.960> the<00:17:45.120> chair<00:17:45.360> and<00:17:45.520> this<00:17:46.480> but<00:17:46.799> um offline with the chair and this but um offline with the chair and this but um you<00:17:48.640> might<00:17:48.880> not<00:17:49.039> want<00:17:49.120> to<00:17:49.280> wait<00:17:49.440> till<00:17:49.600> June<00:17:49.840> the you might not want to wait till June the you might not want to wait till June the 27. 27. 27. » Yeah.

17:52 » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah.<00:17:53.200> No,<00:17:53.440> I<00:17:53.600> appreciate<00:17:53.919> that.<00:17:54.160> I<00:17:54.320> think<00:17:54.480> you » Yeah. No, I appreciate that. I think you » Yeah. No, I appreciate that. I think you know<00:17:54.720> there's<00:17:54.880> always<00:17:55.120> there's<00:17:55.440> always know there’s always there’s always know there’s always there’s always benefits<00:17:56.000> to<00:17:56.160> having<00:17:56.320> that<00:17:56.559> conversation.<00:17:57.120> I benefits to having that conversation. I benefits to having that conversation. I think<00:17:57.679> um<00:17:58.320> one<00:17:58.559> I<00:17:58.720> appreciate<00:17:59.039> that think um one I appreciate that think um one I appreciate that conversation<00:17:59.919> and<00:18:01.280> feels<00:18:01.520> like<00:18:01.760> there's<00:18:02.000> some conversation and feels like there’s some conversation and feels like there’s some confidence<00:18:03.039> in<00:18:03.200> what<00:18:03.280> I'm<00:18:03.440> doing<00:18:04.160> suggested confidence in what I’m doing suggested confidence in what I’m doing suggested you<00:18:04.799> know<00:18:05.200> and<00:18:05.520> that's<00:18:05.679> why<00:18:06.799> I<00:18:08.000> think<00:18:08.640> you<00:18:08.799> know you know and that’s why I think you know you know and that’s why I think you know technically technically technically you<00:18:10.799> know<00:18:11.120> six<00:18:11.360> years<00:18:11.520> on<00:18:12.320> a<00:18:12.960> contract you know six years on a contract you know six years on a contract or<00:18:14.799> five<00:18:15.360> months<00:18:16.400> a<00:18:16.559> couple or five months a couple or five months a couple travel travel travel so<00:18:22.320> I<00:18:22.480> mean<00:18:22.640> I<00:18:22.799> would<00:18:22.960> be<00:18:23.360> you<00:18:23.520> know so I mean I would be you know so I mean I would be you know you<00:18:26.080> inhabitant.<00:18:27.520> I<00:18:27.679> don't<00:18:27.840> know<00:18:27.840> if<00:18:28.080> that's you inhabitant. I don’t know if that’s you inhabitant. I don’t know if that’s that’s<00:18:29.919> at<00:18:30.080> some<00:18:30.320> point.<00:18:30.720> Um<00:18:31.520> I<00:18:31.760> think<00:18:32.000> that that’s at some point. Um I think that that’s at some point. Um I think that you<00:18:33.840> know<00:18:34.240> there's<00:18:34.559> there's<00:18:34.880> some<00:18:35.039> things you know there’s there’s some things you know there’s there’s some things that<00:18:35.440> you<00:18:35.600> know<00:18:36.640> consider<00:18:37.440> even<00:18:37.760> within<00:18:38.160> this

18:38 that you know consider even within this that you know consider even within this three<00:18:38.559> year<00:18:39.039> um<00:18:39.280> time<00:18:39.520> frame<00:18:40.320> with<00:18:40.559> my three year um time frame with my three year um time frame with my community<00:18:40.960> and<00:18:41.120> stuff.<00:18:41.360> Um<00:18:42.720> and<00:18:43.200> but<00:18:43.360> if<00:18:43.679> we community and stuff. Um and but if we community and stuff. Um and but if we said<00:18:44.160> definitely<00:18:44.559> have<00:18:44.720> to<00:18:45.280> exe said definitely have to exe said definitely have to exe whatever whatever whatever » well<00:18:49.200> the<00:18:49.440> reason<00:18:49.600> why<00:18:49.760> I<00:18:49.919> throw<00:18:50.000> it<00:18:50.160> out<00:18:50.240> there » well the reason why I throw it out there » well the reason why I throw it out there too<00:18:50.720> is<00:18:50.880> that<00:18:51.039> it<00:18:51.520> um<00:18:51.919> you<00:18:52.000> know<00:18:52.160> just<00:18:52.320> given too is that it um you know just given too is that it um you know just given the<00:18:52.720> history<00:18:52.799> of<00:18:52.960> what<00:18:53.120> we've<00:18:53.280> been<00:18:53.360> through the history of what we’ve been through the history of what we’ve been through in<00:18:53.760> this<00:18:53.919> district<00:18:54.640> I<00:18:54.880> feel<00:18:55.039> like<00:18:55.280> we're<00:18:55.520> at<00:18:55.760> a in this district I feel like we’re at a in this district I feel like we’re at a point<00:18:56.240> you<00:18:56.400> know<00:18:56.480> we've<00:18:56.720> got<00:18:56.960> some point you know we’ve got some point you know we’ve got some consistency<00:18:58.480> we've<00:18:58.720> got<00:18:58.960> some<00:18:59.840> um<00:19:00.880> you<00:19:01.120> know consistency we’ve got some um you know consistency we’ve got some um you know experience<00:19:01.919> at<00:19:02.080> the<00:19:02.240> helm<00:19:03.200> um<00:19:03.520> things<00:19:03.760> seem<00:19:04.080> to experience at the helm um things seem to experience at the helm um things seem to be<00:19:04.880> um<00:19:05.600> you<00:19:05.760> know<00:19:06.000> leveling<00:19:06.320> out<00:19:06.480> which<00:19:06.720> means be um you know leveling out which means be um you know leveling out which means you<00:19:07.280> know<00:19:07.360> we're<00:19:07.600> now<00:19:07.760> able<00:19:08.000> to<00:19:08.160> move<00:19:08.400> forward you know we’re now able to move forward you know we’re now able to move forward with<00:19:08.960> the<00:19:09.039> district<00:19:09.360> improvement<00:19:09.760> plan with the district improvement plan with the district improvement plan moving<00:19:10.799> forward moving forward moving forward um<00:19:11.840> with<00:19:12.240> competency<00:19:12.799> requirements, um with competency requirements, um with competency requirements, graduation<00:19:13.679> requirements<00:19:14.160> can<00:19:14.400> be<00:19:14.559> key.<00:19:15.039> Um graduation requirements can be key. Um graduation requirements can be key. Um the<00:19:15.760> more<00:19:16.400> stability<00:19:17.360> that<00:19:17.600> this<00:19:18.000> community the more stability that this community the more stability that this community can<00:19:18.640> have,<00:19:18.960> you<00:19:19.200> know,<00:19:19.600> school<00:19:19.760> district<00:19:20.080> and can have, you know, school district and can have, you know, school district and a<00:19:20.480> superintendent<00:19:21.760> is<00:19:22.000> only<00:19:22.240> the<00:19:22.480> better<00:19:22.799> for

19:23 a superintendent is only the better for a superintendent is only the better for everyone<00:19:24.320> and<00:19:24.559> that<00:19:24.799> will<00:19:25.039> allow<00:19:25.360> that.<00:19:25.840> And everyone and that will allow that. And everyone and that will allow that. And you<00:19:26.559> know,<00:19:26.640> we're<00:19:26.960> one<00:19:27.200> year<00:19:27.440> into<00:19:27.760> this,<00:19:28.400> you you know, we’re one year into this, you you know, we’re one year into this, you know,<00:19:28.880> we're<00:19:29.039> in<00:19:29.200> the<00:19:29.360> first<00:19:29.520> year,<00:19:29.679> so<00:19:29.919> it's know, we’re in the first year, so it’s know, we’re in the first year, so it’s not<00:19:30.720> it<00:19:30.960> would<00:19:31.120> be,<00:19:31.679> you<00:19:31.840> know,<00:19:32.320> basically not it would be, you know, basically not it would be, you know, basically extending<00:19:33.120> it<00:19:33.360> to<00:19:33.520> a<00:19:33.840> what<00:19:34.080> would<00:19:34.320> have<00:19:34.400> would extending it to a what would have would extending it to a what would have would be<00:19:34.799> a<00:19:34.960> fighter<00:19:35.280> contract.<00:19:35.679> It<00:19:35.840> would<00:19:35.919> be be a fighter contract. It would be be a fighter contract. It would be simply<00:19:36.799> formal,<00:19:37.200> you<00:19:37.280> know,<00:19:37.440> formal<00:19:37.840> year.<00:19:38.160> So simply formal, you know, formal year. So simply formal, you know, formal year. So again,<00:19:39.120> I<00:19:39.360> just<00:19:39.520> throw<00:19:39.679> it<00:19:39.840> out<00:19:40.000> there.<00:19:40.559> um<00:19:41.360> for again, I just throw it out there. um for again, I just throw it out there. um for this<00:19:41.919> committee<00:19:42.240> to<00:19:42.559> consider. this committee to consider. this committee to consider. » And<00:19:45.200> I<00:19:45.360> and<00:19:45.520> I<00:19:45.679> do<00:19:45.760> appreciate<00:19:46.480> one<00:19:47.039> of<00:19:47.200> that » And I and I do appreciate one of that » And I and I do appreciate one of that too.<00:19:47.679> You<00:19:47.760> know,<00:19:47.919> with<00:19:48.080> with<00:19:48.480> the<00:19:48.720> way too. You know, with with the way too. You know, with with the way superintendent<00:19:49.919> goes<00:19:50.400> in<00:19:51.360> state,<00:19:51.679> I<00:19:51.919> mean, superintendent goes in state, I mean, superintendent goes in state, I mean, you<00:19:52.720> know,<00:19:52.960> obviously<00:19:53.360> as<00:19:53.600> a<00:19:53.760> superintendent, you know, obviously as a superintendent, you know, obviously as a superintendent, I<00:19:54.320> see<00:19:54.480> a<00:19:54.640> lot,<00:19:54.960> you<00:19:55.039> know,<00:19:55.120> a<00:19:55.280> revolving<00:19:55.760> door. I see a lot, you know, a revolving door. I see a lot, you know, a revolving door. It’s<00:19:56.559> u<00:19:57.039> it's<00:19:57.360> tough<00:19:57.679> because<00:19:57.919> there's<00:19:58.400> you It’s u it’s tough because there’s you It’s u it’s tough because there’s you know<00:19:58.640> there's<00:19:59.440> bouncing<00:20:00.000> everywhere<00:20:00.720> when<00:20:00.960> I know there’s bouncing everywhere when I know there’s bouncing everywhere when I think<00:20:01.360> of<00:20:02.000> superintendent<00:20:02.640> for<00:20:02.960> whatever<00:20:03.360> and think of superintendent for whatever and think of superintendent for whatever and that’s<00:20:03.679> not that’s not that’s not that’s<00:20:06.240> the<00:20:06.480> norm<00:20:06.720> is<00:20:06.960> not<00:20:07.120> having<00:20:07.360> a that’s the norm is not having a that’s the norm is not having a superintendent<00:20:08.880> I<00:20:09.039> don't<00:20:09.120> know<00:20:09.360> for<00:20:10.000> three

20:10 superintendent I don’t know for three superintendent I don’t know for three you<00:20:10.720> know<00:20:10.960> three<00:20:11.120> years<00:20:11.360> is<00:20:11.520> like<00:20:11.679> an<00:20:11.840> activity you know three years is like an activity you know three years is like an activity and<00:20:12.559> when<00:20:12.720> I<00:20:12.880> first<00:20:13.039> became<00:20:13.360> superintendent and when I first became superintendent and when I first became superintendent six<00:20:14.480> years<00:20:14.720> is<00:20:14.880> like<00:20:15.360> was<00:20:15.520> like<00:20:16.080> golden<00:20:16.559> for six years is like was like golden for six years is like was like golden for you<00:20:16.960> know<00:20:17.200> superintendent<00:20:17.679> to<00:20:17.840> be<00:20:18.000> in<00:20:18.160> one you know superintendent to be in one you know superintendent to be in one spot<00:20:18.799> and<00:20:19.280> that<00:20:19.440> was<00:20:19.600> 80<00:20:20.320> plus spot and that was 80 plus spot and that was 80 plus I<00:20:22.240> don't<00:20:22.960> know<00:20:23.280> I<00:20:23.440> really<00:20:23.760> don't<00:20:24.000> I<00:20:24.400> like<00:20:24.720> the I don’t know I really don’t I like the I don’t know I really don’t I like the be<00:20:25.760> part<00:20:26.000> of<00:20:26.960> your<00:20:27.200> creativity<00:20:28.159> and<00:20:28.320> stop. be part of your creativity and stop. be part of your creativity and stop. » And<00:20:29.600> the<00:20:29.760> other<00:20:29.840> thing,<00:20:30.080> again,<00:20:30.320> I<00:20:30.480> won't » And the other thing, again, I won’t » And the other thing, again, I won’t belabor<00:20:31.440> this.<00:20:31.760> Um,<00:20:32.400> in<00:20:32.640> my<00:20:32.880> experience,<00:20:33.360> it belabor this. Um, in my experience, it belabor this. Um, in my experience, it so<00:20:33.919> it<00:20:34.159> does<00:20:34.400> allow,<00:20:35.120> you<00:20:35.280> know,<00:20:35.440> kind<00:20:35.600> of<00:20:36.480> long so it does allow, you know, kind of long so it does allow, you know, kind of long long-term<00:20:37.360> planning.<00:20:38.080> Um,<00:20:38.400> and<00:20:38.559> you<00:20:38.720> can long-term planning. Um, and you can long-term planning. Um, and you can start<00:20:39.120> having<00:20:39.360> the<00:20:39.600> conversation<00:20:40.000> with<00:20:40.240> John, start having the conversation with John, start having the conversation with John, you<00:20:40.799> know,<00:20:40.880> at<00:20:41.039> some<00:20:41.200> point<00:20:41.440> where<00:20:41.679> there<00:20:42.000> at you know, at some point where there at you know, at some point where there at that<00:20:42.400> point<00:20:42.559> you<00:20:42.720> want<00:20:42.880> to<00:20:42.960> extend<00:20:43.360> or<00:20:43.600> if<00:20:43.760> you that point you want to extend or if you that point you want to extend or if you think<00:20:44.320> maybe<00:20:44.640> not,<00:20:45.039> then<00:20:45.200> you<00:20:45.360> can<00:20:45.440> talk<00:20:45.600> about think maybe not, then you can talk about think maybe not, then you can talk about succession<00:20:46.240> plan.<00:20:47.039> Um,<00:20:47.280> and<00:20:47.440> also<00:20:47.679> the<00:20:47.840> other succession plan. Um, and also the other succession plan. Um, and also the other thing<00:20:48.080> I<00:20:48.320> would<00:20:48.480> note<00:20:48.640> is<00:20:48.799> that<00:20:49.360> typically, thing I would note is that typically, thing I would note is that typically, Representative<00:20:50.400> W,<00:20:50.720> you<00:20:50.880> don't<00:20:50.960> necessarily Representative W, you don’t necessarily Representative W, you don’t necessarily have<00:20:51.520> to<00:20:51.760> be<00:20:51.919> including<00:20:52.960> increase<00:20:53.200> in<00:20:53.360> pay<00:20:53.679> in have to be including increase in pay in have to be including increase in pay in that<00:20:54.080> contract.<00:20:54.480> So<00:20:54.640> you<00:20:54.799> extend<00:20:55.039> the<00:20:55.200> length that contract. So you extend the length that contract. So you extend the length of<00:20:55.520> the<00:20:55.679> contract<00:20:56.080> but<00:20:56.159> that<00:20:56.400> each<00:20:56.640> year<00:20:57.520> the<00:20:57.840> I

20:58 of the contract but that each year the I of the contract but that each year the I believe<00:20:58.720> you<00:20:58.880> can believe you can believe you can » yeah<00:20:59.760> you<00:20:59.919> can<00:21:00.080> you<00:21:00.320> can<00:21:00.400> make<00:21:00.559> it<00:21:00.799> like<00:21:01.039> well » yeah you can you can make it like well » yeah you can you can make it like well if<00:21:01.440> you<00:21:01.679> extend<00:21:02.080> that<00:21:02.240> contract<00:21:02.480> two<00:21:02.720> years if you extend that contract two years if you extend that contract two years out out out » to<00:21:04.880> be<00:21:05.039> determined<00:21:05.280> each<00:21:05.520> year<00:21:05.679> because<00:21:06.480> you » to be determined each year because you » to be determined each year because you know<00:21:06.720> you<00:21:06.880> don't<00:21:06.960> have<00:21:07.120> to<00:21:07.200> commit<00:21:07.520> to<00:21:07.840> a know you don’t have to commit to a know you don’t have to commit to a particular<00:21:08.880> increase<00:21:09.600> or<00:21:09.840> potential particular increase or potential particular increase or potential increase<00:21:10.400> in<00:21:10.640> paying<00:21:11.120> not<00:21:11.360> knowing<00:21:12.080> you<00:21:12.240> know increase in paying not knowing you know increase in paying not knowing you know the<00:21:12.480> budget.<00:21:13.200> Um the budget. Um the budget. Um » I<00:21:13.840> believe<00:21:14.000> his<00:21:14.240> current<00:21:14.559> contract<00:21:14.880> is<00:21:15.039> set<00:21:15.200> up » I believe his current contract is set up » I believe his current contract is set up that<00:21:15.520> way<00:21:15.760> but<00:21:16.000> yeah<00:21:17.200> debt<00:21:17.440> to<00:21:17.520> huge. that way but yeah debt to huge. that way but yeah debt to huge. » All<00:21:19.679> right.<00:21:20.720> So,<00:21:20.960> John,<00:21:21.200> just<00:21:21.360> as<00:21:21.520> we<00:21:21.760> as<00:21:22.000> we » All right. So, John, just as we as we » All right. So, John, just as we as we start,<00:21:22.880> um,<00:21:23.440> are<00:21:23.679> you<00:21:23.760> going<00:21:23.919> to<00:21:24.640> keep<00:21:24.799> the start, um, are you going to keep the start, um, are you going to keep the edits<00:21:25.280> that<00:21:25.440> you<00:21:25.600> need<00:21:25.679> to<00:21:25.760> make<00:21:25.919> to<00:21:26.159> your edits that you need to make to your edits that you need to make to your versus » make any changes to » make any changes to » Oh,<00:21:34.400> yeah. » Oh, yeah. » Oh, yeah. » Okay.<00:21:36.259> [clears throat] » Okay. [clears throat] » Okay. [clears throat] » Um,<00:21:38.640> you<00:21:38.720> want<00:21:38.799> to<00:21:38.880> start? » Um, you want to start? » Um, you want to start? » Yeah,<00:21:40.240> sorry.<00:21:41.120> Let's<00:21:41.280> do<00:21:41.440> the<00:21:41.520> goals<00:21:41.760> then<00:21:41.919> we » Yeah, sorry. Let’s do the goals then we » Yeah, sorry. Let’s do the goals then we can<00:21:42.080> go<00:21:42.159> back<00:21:42.320> and<00:21:42.400> do<00:21:42.559> that.

21:43 can go back and do that. can go back and do that. » Um, » Um, » Um, » which<00:21:44.640> one<00:21:44.799> you<00:21:44.880> want<00:21:44.960> to<00:21:45.039> start<00:21:45.200> with? » which one you want to start with? » which one you want to start with? » I<00:21:46.960> think<00:21:47.360> um » I think um » I think um » Okay.<00:21:48.480> So<00:21:49.440> um<00:21:49.760> points<00:21:50.080> not<00:21:50.240> lost<00:21:50.400> on<00:21:50.559> me<00:21:50.720> that » Okay. So um points not lost on me that » Okay. So um points not lost on me that you<00:21:51.039> know<00:21:51.120> there's<00:21:51.280> been<00:21:51.360> a<00:21:51.520> lot<00:21:51.600> of you know there’s been a lot of you know there’s been a lot of conversation<00:21:52.080> about<00:21:52.320> student<00:21:52.559> achievement conversation about student achievement conversation about student achievement and<00:21:53.200> growth<00:21:53.440> and<00:21:53.679> how<00:21:54.000> we<00:21:54.559> are<00:21:54.720> we<00:21:54.880> looking<00:21:55.120> at and growth and how we are we looking at and growth and how we are we looking at that.<00:21:55.600> So<00:21:55.919> I<00:21:56.159> draft<00:21:56.400> this<00:21:56.480> as<00:21:56.640> well<00:21:56.799> and<00:21:56.960> I<00:21:57.200> and that. So I draft this as well and I and that. So I draft this as well and I and this<00:21:57.600> is<00:21:57.840> not<00:21:58.320> very<00:21:58.559> draftable<00:21:59.120> so<00:21:59.440> you<00:21:59.520> know this is not very draftable so you know this is not very draftable so you know that<00:22:02.720> we<00:22:03.039> maybe<00:22:03.280> elaborate<00:22:03.760> or<00:22:03.919> whatever<00:22:04.159> but that we maybe elaborate or whatever but that we maybe elaborate or whatever but um<00:22:05.280> so<00:22:05.760> basically<00:22:06.080> it's<00:22:06.320> incumbent<00:22:06.640> upon<00:22:06.880> the um so basically it’s incumbent upon the um so basically it’s incumbent upon the administrator<00:22:07.360> to<00:22:07.440> ensure<00:22:07.679> that<00:22:07.840> we<00:22:08.000> have administrator to ensure that we have administrator to ensure that we have ways<00:22:08.480> to ways to ways to access access access assess<00:22:13.200> student assess student assess student achievement<00:22:15.919> and<00:22:16.080> growth<00:22:16.400> um<00:22:16.559> beginning<00:22:16.799> in achievement and growth um beginning in achievement and growth um beginning in the<00:22:17.039> early<00:22:17.280> grades<00:22:17.440> and<00:22:17.679> carry<00:22:18.000> throughout the early grades and carry throughout the early grades and carry throughout graduation<00:22:18.880> and<00:22:19.679> pass<00:22:19.919> as<00:22:20.080> a<00:22:20.559> premise<00:22:20.960> is<00:22:21.120> more graduation and pass as a premise is more graduation and pass as a premise is more important<00:22:21.520> that<00:22:21.760> we<00:22:22.000> address<00:22:22.320> ways<00:22:22.480> to<00:22:22.640> ensure important that we address ways to ensure important that we address ways to ensure students<00:22:23.280> are<00:22:23.520> meeting<00:22:23.840> Santa<00:22:24.240> and<00:22:24.799> exactly students are meeting Santa and exactly students are meeting Santa and exactly about<00:22:25.520> kids<00:22:25.840> in<00:22:26.400> both<00:22:26.799> ways.<00:22:27.520> Um<00:22:28.159> I<00:22:28.480> think

22:28 about kids in both ways. Um I think about kids in both ways. Um I think looking<00:22:29.280> at<00:22:29.840> um<00:22:31.120> how<00:22:31.360> educators<00:22:31.840> will<00:22:32.000> say, looking at um how educators will say, looking at um how educators will say, “Oh,<00:22:32.320> I<00:22:32.640> know<00:22:32.799> my<00:22:32.960> kids<00:22:33.280> are<00:22:33.520> valuable.<00:22:33.840> We “Oh, I know my kids are valuable. We “Oh, I know my kids are valuable. We really<00:22:34.159> need<00:22:34.240> to<00:22:34.400> get<00:22:34.480> to<00:22:34.720> the<00:22:34.799> indicators<00:22:35.440> of really need to get to the indicators of really need to get to the indicators of you<00:22:35.840> know<00:22:36.240> that<00:22:36.480> piece.<00:22:36.880> We<00:22:37.039> need<00:22:37.120> to<00:22:37.280> look<00:22:37.440> at you know that piece. We need to look at you know that piece. We need to look at not<00:22:38.480> just<00:22:38.640> what<00:22:38.799> the<00:22:38.960> teacher<00:22:39.200> says<00:22:39.520> their not just what the teacher says their not just what the teacher says their strengths<00:22:39.919> and<00:22:40.400> weaknesses,<00:22:40.799> but<00:22:41.039> how<00:22:41.120> do<00:22:41.200> we strengths and weaknesses, but how do we strengths and weaknesses, but how do we measure<00:22:41.760> over?"<00:22:42.000> So<00:22:42.159> be<00:22:42.400> looking<00:22:42.559> at<00:22:43.120> um<00:22:43.840> the measure over?” So be looking at um the measure over?” So be looking at um the academic<00:22:44.480> and<00:22:44.640> social<00:22:44.880> emotional academic and social emotional academic and social emotional achievement.<00:22:45.919> It's<00:22:46.159> important<00:22:46.320> that<00:22:46.559> we achievement. It’s important that we achievement. It’s important that we align<00:22:47.440> those<00:22:47.600> with<00:22:47.760> our<00:22:47.919> high<00:22:48.080> expectations align those with our high expectations align those with our high expectations and<00:22:49.120> ways<00:22:49.440> to<00:22:49.679> share<00:22:50.480> um<00:22:51.520> student<00:22:51.840> growth<00:22:52.000> and and ways to share um student growth and and ways to share um student growth and achievement<00:22:52.720> measuring<00:22:53.360> both<00:22:53.840> we<00:22:54.000> are<00:22:54.159> using achievement measuring both we are using achievement measuring both we are using across<00:22:54.640> the<00:22:54.799> district<00:22:54.960> and<00:22:55.120> how<00:22:55.280> those<00:22:55.760> are across the district and how those are across the district and how those are chosen<00:22:56.480> and<00:22:56.720> utilized.<00:22:57.120> So<00:22:57.600> you<00:22:57.760> know<00:22:58.000> with chosen and utilized. So you know with chosen and utilized. So you know with with<00:22:58.799> cast<00:22:59.039> obviously<00:22:59.280> as<00:22:59.520> one<00:22:59.679> touch<00:22:59.919> point with cast obviously as one touch point with cast obviously as one touch point I’m<00:23:00.559> throw<00:23:00.799> out<00:23:00.960> and<00:23:01.280> about<00:23:01.679> that<00:23:01.840> as<00:23:02.000> a I’m throw out and about that as a I’m throw out and about that as a graduation<00:23:02.960> we<00:23:03.039> really<00:23:03.200> need<00:23:03.360> to<00:23:03.440> start graduation we really need to start graduation we really need to start looking<00:23:03.919> at<00:23:04.080> that<00:23:04.720> but<00:23:05.280> leading<00:23:05.600> up<00:23:05.760> to<00:23:06.240> you looking at that but leading up to you looking at that but leading up to you know<00:23:06.480> there's<00:23:06.720> a<00:23:06.880> lot<00:23:06.960> of<00:23:07.200> you<00:23:07.360> know<00:23:07.520> I<00:23:07.679> would know there’s a lot of you know I would know there’s a lot of you know I would provide<00:23:08.080> this<00:23:08.240> as<00:23:08.400> part<00:23:08.480> of<00:23:08.559> my<00:23:08.720> evidence<00:23:09.039> but provide this as part of my evidence but provide this as part of my evidence but like<00:23:09.360> a<00:23:09.520> lot<00:23:09.600> of<00:23:10.000> assessments<00:23:10.400> we've<00:23:10.640> been<00:23:10.799> to like a lot of assessments we’ve been to like a lot of assessments we’ve been to face<00:23:11.919> school<00:23:12.400> at<00:23:12.799> you<00:23:12.880> know<00:23:13.120> wayinder face school at you know wayinder face school at you know wayinder assessments<00:23:14.000> for<00:23:14.159> social<00:23:14.480> emotional

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24:42 overall you know we touched on some of overall you know we touched on some of that<00:24:42.960> you<00:24:43.039> know<00:24:43.200> during<00:24:43.360> the<00:24:43.600> past that you know during the past that you know during the past presentation<00:24:44.320> we<00:24:44.480> touched<00:24:44.640> on<00:24:44.880> some<00:24:45.039> of<00:24:45.200> that presentation we touched on some of that presentation we touched on some of that stuff<00:24:45.840> um<00:24:46.159> my<00:24:46.480> my<00:24:46.799> goal<00:24:47.120> would<00:24:47.279> be<00:24:47.520> to<00:24:47.840> let's stuff um my my goal would be to let’s stuff um my my goal would be to let’s take<00:24:48.480> some<00:24:48.720> deeper<00:24:49.039> dive<00:24:49.440> some<00:24:49.600> more take some deeper dive some more take some deeper dive some more reporting<00:24:51.039> out<00:24:51.600> um<00:24:51.760> of<00:24:52.159> those<00:24:52.720> you<00:24:52.799> know reporting out um of those you know reporting out um of those you know benchmark<00:24:53.600> assessments<00:24:54.240> so<00:24:55.039> you<00:24:55.279> know benchmark assessments so you know benchmark assessments so you know quarters<00:24:57.279> trimesters<00:24:57.840> whatever<00:24:58.400> um<00:24:58.640> they quarters trimesters whatever um they quarters trimesters whatever um they have<00:24:59.039> some<00:24:59.360> conversations<00:25:00.000> at<00:25:00.240> the<00:25:00.400> school have some conversations at the school have some conversations at the school committee<00:25:00.960> level<00:25:01.279> like<00:25:01.520> where<00:25:01.840> are<00:25:02.400> what<00:25:02.559> we committee level like where are what we committee level like where are what we do<00:25:02.880> and<00:25:03.120> how<00:25:03.279> we<00:25:03.520> do<00:25:04.799> levels.<00:25:05.600> Um,<00:25:06.240> you<00:25:06.400> know,<00:25:06.480> a do and how we do levels. Um, you know, a do and how we do levels. Um, you know, a lot<00:25:06.799> of<00:25:06.880> that<00:25:07.120> with<00:25:07.919> our<00:25:08.880> Julia<00:25:09.360> and<00:25:09.520> her lot of that with our Julia and her lot of that with our Julia and her teams,<00:25:10.400> they<00:25:10.720> they<00:25:10.960> they<00:25:11.279> manage<00:25:11.600> most<00:25:11.760> of teams, they they they manage most of teams, they they they manage most of that<00:25:12.080> stuff,<00:25:12.320> but<00:25:12.960> my<00:25:13.279> role<00:25:13.600> be<00:25:13.760> to<00:25:13.919> make<00:25:14.080> sure that stuff, but my role be to make sure that stuff, but my role be to make sure that<00:25:14.480> all<00:25:14.640> those<00:25:14.799> things<00:25:15.039> are<00:25:15.120> continuing<00:25:15.520> to that all those things are continuing to that all those things are continuing to happen<00:25:15.919> that<00:25:16.159> they're<00:25:16.400> having<00:25:16.640> the happen that they’re having the happen that they’re having the conversations<00:25:18.000> that<00:25:18.640> we conversations that we conversations that we looking<00:25:21.360> at<00:25:21.919> that and how we address those within the box and how we address those within the box within.

25:29 within. within. That’s<00:25:30.080> the<00:25:30.240> overarching<00:25:30.720> goal<00:25:31.039> that<00:25:31.279> you That’s the overarching goal that you That’s the overarching goal that you want<00:25:31.520> to<00:25:31.600> go<00:25:32.000> go<00:25:32.240> by<00:25:32.400> goal. want to go go by goal. want to go go by goal. » I<00:25:34.159> think<00:25:34.320> it's<00:25:34.559> easier<00:25:35.600> than<00:25:36.320> each<00:25:36.559> goal. » I think it’s easier than each goal. » I think it’s easier than each goal. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » On<00:25:38.320> the<00:25:38.880> on<00:25:39.200> the<00:25:39.440> measurement<00:25:39.840> of<00:25:40.000> this<00:25:40.159> goal, » On the on the measurement of this goal, » On the on the measurement of this goal, I<00:25:40.640> think<00:25:40.799> my<00:25:41.360> challenge<00:25:41.760> with<00:25:42.000> it<00:25:42.159> is<00:25:42.400> that I think my challenge with it is that I think my challenge with it is that ongoing<00:25:43.120> need<00:25:43.600> and<00:25:43.679> discussion<00:25:44.159> is<00:25:44.480> not ongoing need and discussion is not ongoing need and discussion is not really<00:25:45.120> hard<00:25:45.440> data<00:25:45.760> that<00:25:46.080> we<00:25:46.240> can<00:25:46.480> measure really hard data that we can measure really hard data that we can measure year-over-year<00:25:47.440> and<00:25:47.679> then<00:25:47.840> the<00:25:48.000> evidence year-over-year and then the evidence year-over-year and then the evidence that<00:25:48.640> we<00:25:48.880> have<00:25:49.039> is<00:25:49.919> comparing<00:25:50.400> student<00:25:50.640> growth that we have is comparing student growth that we have is comparing student growth year-over-year.<00:25:51.440> So,<00:25:51.600> I<00:25:51.760> think<00:25:51.840> the<00:25:52.000> extent year-over-year. So, I think the extent year-over-year. So, I think the extent to<00:25:52.400> which<00:25:52.559> we<00:25:52.720> can<00:25:52.880> be<00:25:53.600> specific<00:25:54.320> about<00:25:54.720> what to which we can be specific about what to which we can be specific about what assessments<00:25:55.600> andor<00:25:56.080> data<00:25:56.400> so<00:25:56.559> that<00:25:56.720> it's assessments andor data so that it’s assessments andor data so that it’s something<00:25:57.279> we<00:25:57.600> can<00:25:57.919> actually<00:25:58.320> look<00:25:58.559> at<00:25:58.799> on<00:25:59.120> a something we can actually look at on a something we can actually look at on a year-over-year<00:26:00.559> basis<00:26:00.880> to<00:26:01.120> see<00:26:01.200> how<00:26:01.360> it's year-over-year basis to see how it’s year-over-year basis to see how it’s trending<00:26:01.919> versus<00:26:02.320> just<00:26:02.559> conversations<00:26:03.279> which trending versus just conversations which trending versus just conversations which I<00:26:03.679> think<00:26:03.840> can<00:26:04.480> it's<00:26:04.720> helpful<00:26:05.039> context<00:26:05.440> but I think can it’s helpful context but I think can it’s helpful context but it’s<00:26:05.840> hard<00:26:05.919> to<00:26:06.080> actually<00:26:06.400> measure it’s hard to actually measure it’s hard to actually measure and<00:26:09.279> how<00:26:09.440> they're<00:26:09.600> changing<00:26:09.919> over<00:26:10.159> time. and how they’re changing over time. and how they’re changing over time. » Um, » Um, » Um, I<00:26:13.200> like<00:26:13.440> this<00:26:13.679> goal.<00:26:14.320> This<00:26:14.559> is<00:26:14.640> a<00:26:14.720> lot<00:26:14.960> of<00:26:15.039> what

26:15 I like this goal. This is a lot of what I like this goal. This is a lot of what I’ve<00:26:15.440> been<00:26:15.600> thinking<00:26:15.840> about.<00:26:16.320> Um,<00:26:17.039> I<00:26:17.360> think I’ve been thinking about. Um, I think I’ve been thinking about. Um, I think two<00:26:18.240> things<00:26:18.400> within<00:26:18.720> it.<00:26:19.120> one<00:26:20.000> would<00:26:20.320> be two things within it. one would be two things within it. one would be specifically<00:26:21.600> what<00:26:22.240> we've<00:26:22.400> been<00:26:22.640> looking<00:26:22.799> at specifically what we’ve been looking at specifically what we’ve been looking at at<00:26:23.279> the<00:26:23.440> high<00:26:23.679> school<00:26:23.919> level<00:26:24.480> where<00:26:24.720> I<00:26:24.960> think at the high school level where I think at the high school level where I think it<00:26:25.679> was<00:26:25.840> pretty<00:26:26.080> clear<00:26:26.320> from<00:26:26.480> the<00:26:26.640> incast it was pretty clear from the incast it was pretty clear from the incast presentation<00:26:27.520> that<00:26:27.760> that<00:26:28.000> is<00:26:28.240> not<00:26:29.120> a<00:26:29.440> reliable presentation that that is not a reliable presentation that that is not a reliable necessarily<00:26:30.880> a<00:26:31.120> reliable<00:26:31.600> indicator<00:26:32.320> the<00:26:32.559> way necessarily a reliable indicator the way necessarily a reliable indicator the way it<00:26:32.880> might<00:26:33.039> still<00:26:33.279> be<00:26:33.440> for<00:26:33.600> some<00:26:33.760> of<00:26:33.840> the it might still be for some of the it might still be for some of the younger<00:26:34.480> grades.<00:26:34.960> So,<00:26:35.120> what<00:26:35.360> are<00:26:35.520> the<00:26:36.000> options younger grades. So, what are the options younger grades. So, what are the options available<00:26:37.600> at<00:26:37.760> the<00:26:37.919> high<00:26:38.080> school<00:26:38.320> level?<00:26:39.600> And available at the high school level? And available at the high school level? And then<00:26:40.720> I'd<00:26:41.039> be<00:26:41.279> curious then I’d be curious then I’d be curious whether<00:26:43.520> this<00:26:43.760> goal<00:26:44.080> can<00:26:44.240> be<00:26:44.480> used<00:26:45.679> to<00:26:45.919> help whether this goal can be used to help whether this goal can be used to help the<00:26:46.400> school the school the school sort<00:26:48.559> of<00:26:48.720> assess<00:26:49.120> our<00:26:49.360> financial<00:26:49.840> investment sort of assess our financial investment sort of assess our financial investment in<00:26:50.960> different<00:26:51.440> curriculum.<00:26:52.080> So,<00:26:52.320> you<00:26:52.400> know, in different curriculum. So, you know, in different curriculum. So, you know, we’re<00:26:52.799> a<00:26:52.960> couple<00:26:53.120> years<00:26:53.360> into<00:26:53.600> a<00:26:53.760> new<00:26:53.919> math we’re a couple years into a new math we’re a couple years into a new math program,<00:26:55.120> a<00:26:55.360> new,<00:26:56.000> you<00:26:56.159> know,<00:26:56.320> the<00:26:56.480> Whiten program, a new, you know, the Whiten program, a new, you know, the Whiten wisdom<00:26:57.200> program.<00:26:58.159> Was<00:26:58.559> that<00:26:59.360> is<00:26:59.600> that<00:26:59.679> a<00:26:59.840> way wisdom program. Was that is that a way wisdom program. Was that is that a way we<00:27:00.159> can<00:27:00.320> see<00:27:00.480> some<00:27:00.640> evidence<00:27:01.120> of<00:27:01.520> you<00:27:01.679> know

27:02 we can see some evidence of you know we can see some evidence of you know student<00:27:02.880> growth<00:27:03.200> is student growth is student growth is » trending<00:27:04.559> up<00:27:04.799> with<00:27:05.120> this<00:27:06.159> or<00:27:06.400> you<00:27:06.559> know<00:27:07.200> on<00:27:07.440> the » trending up with this or you know on the » trending up with this or you know on the previous<00:27:08.240> cycle<00:27:08.559> maybe<00:27:08.799> we<00:27:08.960> need<00:27:09.120> to<00:27:09.200> be previous cycle maybe we need to be previous cycle maybe we need to be looking<00:27:09.520> for<00:27:09.679> a<00:27:09.840> different<00:27:10.080> product<00:27:10.960> and<00:27:11.200> I looking for a different product and I looking for a different product and I think<00:27:11.440> that's<00:27:11.760> not think that’s not think that’s not what’s<00:27:14.080> benefic

27:29 for for updates. to the school committee for for updates. to the school committee which<00:27:29.919> I<00:27:30.159> think<00:27:30.240> are<00:27:30.480> really<00:27:30.799> updates<00:27:31.200> to<00:27:31.440> the which I think are really updates to the which I think are really updates to the community.<00:27:31.919> Like<00:27:32.159> I<00:27:32.320> think<00:27:32.480> that<00:27:32.799> intense community. Like I think that intense community. Like I think that intense presentation<00:27:34.159> really<00:27:34.400> well.<00:27:34.880> I<00:27:35.039> think<00:27:35.200> more presentation really well. I think more presentation really well. I think more of<00:27:35.679> that<00:27:36.720> you<00:27:36.880> know<00:27:37.039> built<00:27:37.360> into<00:27:38.000> into<00:27:38.640> you of that you know built into into you of that you know built into into you know<00:27:38.960> kind<00:27:39.120> of<00:27:39.279> benchmarks<00:27:39.679> in<00:27:39.919> the<00:27:40.080> in<00:27:40.320> the know kind of benchmarks in the in the know kind of benchmarks in the in the school<00:27:40.720> year school year school year would<00:27:42.960> help<00:27:43.279> not<00:27:43.679> not<00:27:44.000> just<00:27:44.400> us<00:27:44.799> understand would help not not just us understand would help not not just us understand but<00:27:46.400> the<00:27:46.720> community<00:27:47.120> understand<00:27:47.440> how<00:27:47.679> the but the community understand how the but the community understand how the schools<00:27:48.080> are<00:27:48.159> doing<00:27:48.400> throughout<00:27:48.720> the<00:27:48.880> year. schools are doing throughout the year. schools are doing throughout the year. » Yeah.<00:27:49.840> And<00:27:50.000> I<00:27:50.159> think<00:27:50.320> I've<00:27:50.480> mentioned<00:27:50.720> that » Yeah. And I think I’ve mentioned that » Yeah. And I think I’ve mentioned that before.<00:27:51.200> I<00:27:51.360> think<00:27:51.440> it's<00:27:51.679> important<00:27:52.080> and<00:27:52.559> you before. I think it’s important and you before. I think it’s important and you know<00:27:52.960> honestly<00:27:53.360> never<00:27:53.600> really<00:27:53.840> got<00:27:54.000> off<00:27:54.159> the know honestly never really got off the know honestly never really got off the ground<00:27:54.480> this<00:27:54.720> past<00:27:54.960> year<00:27:55.200> was<00:27:55.600> you<00:27:55.760> know<00:27:56.720> just ground this past year was you know just ground this past year was you know just the<00:27:57.120> way<00:27:57.279> that<00:27:58.320> committees<00:27:58.960> kind<00:27:59.120> of<00:27:59.840> hand<00:28:00.080> out the way that committees kind of hand out the way that committees kind of hand out from<00:28:00.480> the<00:28:00.720> leading<00:28:01.120> time<00:28:01.200> the<00:28:01.440> way<00:28:01.600> I<00:28:02.559> in<00:28:02.799> my from the leading time the way I in my from the leading time the way I in my previous<00:28:03.279> life<00:28:03.440> I<00:28:03.600> would<00:28:03.760> do<00:28:03.840> that<00:28:04.080> you<00:28:04.240> know previous life I would do that you know previous life I would do that you know you<00:28:04.720> know<00:28:05.840> at<00:28:05.840> least<00:28:07.120> to<00:28:07.279> say<00:28:07.520> hey<00:28:07.679> here's you know at least to say hey here’s you know at least to say hey here’s where<00:28:08.080> I<00:28:08.240> am<00:28:08.480> with<00:28:08.640> my<00:28:08.720> goals<00:28:09.200> here's<00:28:09.440> where where I am with my goals here’s where where I am with my goals here’s where I’ve<00:28:09.760> fallen<00:28:10.080> short<00:28:10.320> here's<00:28:10.559> where<00:28:11.039> you I’ve fallen short here’s where you I’ve fallen short here’s where you exceeding<00:28:11.840> here's<00:28:12.320> you<00:28:12.399> know<00:28:12.799> belief<00:28:13.200> or exceeding here’s you know belief or exceeding here’s you know belief or thoughts<00:28:13.919> because<00:28:14.320> for<00:28:14.640> me<00:28:15.440> I<00:28:15.600> would<00:28:15.760> rather

28:16 thoughts because for me I would rather thoughts because for me I would rather know<00:28:16.320> from<00:28:16.559> you<00:28:17.279> all<00:28:18.080> what<00:28:18.240> you<00:28:18.399> think<00:28:18.559> is know from you all what you think is know from you all what you think is going<00:28:19.039> well<00:28:19.279> and<00:28:19.679> it's<00:28:19.840> not<00:28:20.720> something<00:28:21.200> that's going well and it’s not something that’s going well and it’s not something that’s not<00:28:21.679> going<00:28:21.919> well<00:28:22.559> in<00:28:22.799> the<00:28:22.960> moment<00:28:23.279> or<00:28:23.600> supposed not going well in the moment or supposed not going well in the moment or supposed to<00:28:23.919> end<00:28:24.000> the<00:28:24.080> moment<00:28:24.320> as<00:28:24.399> possible<00:28:24.799> not<00:28:25.120> until to end the moment as possible not until to end the moment as possible not until the<00:28:25.520> end<00:28:25.600> when<00:28:25.760> me<00:28:25.919> doing<00:28:26.080> my<00:28:26.240> evaluation<00:28:26.640> say the end when me doing my evaluation say the end when me doing my evaluation say no<00:28:27.760> you<00:28:28.080> stunk<00:28:28.320> the<00:28:28.559> fact<00:28:28.720> go<00:28:29.360> you<00:28:29.440> didn't no you stunk the fact go you didn’t no you stunk the fact go you didn’t achieve<00:28:29.840> it<00:28:30.080> like<00:28:30.799> you<00:28:30.960> know<00:28:31.039> and<00:28:31.200> I<00:28:31.360> share achieve it like you know and I share achieve it like you know and I share this<00:28:32.080> when<00:28:32.240> I<00:28:32.559> when<00:28:32.799> I<00:28:33.520> evaluate this when I when I evaluate this when I when I evaluate administrators<00:28:34.720> like<00:28:35.039> nothing<00:28:35.360> was<00:28:35.440> a administrators like nothing was a administrators like nothing was a surprise<00:28:36.720> if<00:28:36.880> it's<00:28:37.200> a<00:28:37.360> surprise<00:28:37.679> that<00:28:37.840> I<00:28:38.080> did surprise if it’s a surprise that I did surprise if it’s a surprise that I did my<00:28:38.480> job<00:28:38.640> so<00:28:38.799> I<00:28:38.880> feel<00:28:39.200> same<00:28:39.440> with<00:28:39.600> you<00:28:39.760> guys my job so I feel same with you guys my job so I feel same with you guys with<00:28:41.840> the<00:28:42.080> committee<00:28:42.720> um<00:28:43.039> that<00:28:43.279> you<00:28:43.440> know<00:28:44.720> back with the committee um that you know back with the committee um that you know back so<00:28:45.200> I<00:28:45.440> would<00:28:46.240> um<00:28:46.640> and<00:28:46.799> whatever<00:28:47.120> that<00:28:47.279> looks so I would um and whatever that looks so I would um and whatever that looks like like like » yeah<00:28:48.240> I<00:28:48.399> think<00:28:48.559> weekly<00:28:48.960> is<00:28:49.520> or<00:28:49.840> not<00:28:50.159> weekly, » yeah I think weekly is or not weekly, » yeah I think weekly is or not weekly, but<00:28:50.720> monthly<00:28:51.039> is<00:28:51.200> a<00:28:51.360> lot.<00:28:51.919> Yeah,<00:28:52.080> I<00:28:52.240> think but monthly is a lot. Yeah, I think but monthly is a lot. Yeah, I think » um<00:28:53.840> and<00:28:54.159> I<00:28:54.399> think<00:28:54.559> it<00:28:54.880> would<00:28:55.120> help » um and I think it would help » um and I think it would help » if<00:28:56.720> those<00:28:57.440> check-in<00:28:57.919> dates<00:28:58.159> were<00:28:58.480> sort<00:28:58.640> of » if those check-in dates were sort of » if those check-in dates were sort of aligned<00:28:59.200> to<00:28:59.360> the<00:28:59.679> school<00:29:00.000> year<00:29:01.120> in<00:29:01.360> a<00:29:01.520> way<00:29:01.600> that

29:01 aligned to the school year in a way that aligned to the school year in a way that makes<00:29:02.080> sense<00:29:02.240> to<00:29:02.399> the<00:29:02.559> parents. makes sense to the parents. makes sense to the parents. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Um » Um I<00:29:14.480> think<00:29:15.279> just<00:29:15.440> go<00:29:15.600> around. I think just go around. I think just go around. It<00:29:18.159> doesn't.<00:29:18.480> Yeah,<00:29:18.960> that's<00:29:19.200> fine.<00:29:20.320> So,<00:29:20.559> where It doesn’t. Yeah, that’s fine. So, where It doesn’t. Yeah, that’s fine. So, where were<00:29:20.960> we? were we? were we? » Yeah,<00:29:21.679> I<00:29:21.840> think<00:29:21.919> it's<00:29:22.080> to<00:29:22.240> you. » Yeah, I think it’s to you. » Yeah, I think it’s to you. » Is<00:29:22.640> it<00:29:22.799> to<00:29:22.960> me?<00:29:23.520> Um,<00:29:24.080> yeah,<00:29:24.320> a<00:29:24.480> little<00:29:24.559> bit<00:29:24.720> what » Is it to me? Um, yeah, a little bit what » Is it to me? Um, yeah, a little bit what Melissa<00:29:25.279> was<00:29:25.440> saying<00:29:25.679> like<00:29:25.919> the<00:29:26.159> PD<00:29:26.720> we<00:29:26.880> know Melissa was saying like the PD we know Melissa was saying like the PD we know is<00:29:27.360> good<00:29:27.600> stuff,<00:29:27.840> but<00:29:28.320> as<00:29:28.559> this<00:29:28.799> is<00:29:28.960> written, is good stuff, but as this is written, is good stuff, but as this is written, are<00:29:30.080> we<00:29:30.240> doing<00:29:30.399> that<00:29:30.640> already?<00:29:31.200> Do<00:29:31.360> we<00:29:31.520> have<00:29:31.600> to are we doing that already? Do we have to are we doing that already? Do we have to do<00:29:31.760> it<00:29:32.000> more?<00:29:32.640> Do<00:29:32.799> we<00:29:33.279> It's<00:29:33.600> not<00:29:33.840> clear<00:29:34.080> to<00:29:34.320> me do it more? Do we It’s not clear to me do it more? Do we It’s not clear to me how<00:29:35.600> to<00:29:35.760> measure<00:29:36.080> that. how to measure that. how to measure that. » Um, » Um, » Um, and<00:29:39.600> again,<00:29:39.919> I<00:29:40.240> obviously<00:29:41.039> student<00:29:41.360> growth and again, I obviously student growth and again, I obviously student growth year-over-year<00:29:42.399> is<00:29:42.960> important,<00:29:43.520> but<00:29:43.840> it's year-over-year is important, but it’s year-over-year is important, but it’s insular,<00:29:44.799> right?<00:29:45.200> Not,<00:29:46.480> you<00:29:46.559> know,<00:29:46.799> let's<00:29:46.960> say

29:47 insular, right? Not, you know, let’s say insular, right? Not, you know, let’s say our<00:29:47.279> student<00:29:47.600> growth<00:29:47.840> is<00:29:48.080> doing<00:29:48.320> what<00:29:48.559> we our student growth is doing what we our student growth is doing what we think<00:29:48.880> is<00:29:49.120> pretty<00:29:49.279> well,<00:29:49.679> right?<00:29:50.320> Well,<00:29:50.480> what think is pretty well, right? Well, what think is pretty well, right? Well, what if<00:29:50.799> other<00:29:50.960> schools<00:29:51.200> that<00:29:51.440> we<00:29:51.520> should<00:29:51.679> be if other schools that we should be if other schools that we should be comparing<00:29:52.080> ourselves<00:29:52.399> are<00:29:52.640> doing<00:29:52.720> much comparing ourselves are doing much comparing ourselves are doing much better<00:29:53.200> or<00:29:53.440> double<00:29:53.679> that?<00:29:54.240> That's<00:29:55.039> that better or double that? That’s that better or double that? That’s that should<00:29:55.520> be<00:29:55.679> measurable<00:29:56.080> and<00:29:56.399> something<00:29:56.640> that should be measurable and something that should be measurable and something that we<00:29:56.960> need<00:29:57.120> to<00:29:57.279> focus<00:29:57.440> on. we need to focus on. we need to focus on. » I<00:29:58.640> put<00:29:58.799> that<00:29:58.960> in<00:29:59.360> the<00:29:59.440> back.<00:30:00.615> [laughter]<00:30:00.960> I » I put that in the back. [laughter] I » I put that in the back. [laughter] I did.<00:30:01.360> I<00:30:01.520> would<00:30:01.600> like did. I would like did. I would like » I<00:30:04.640> also<00:30:04.799> think<00:30:04.960> too<00:30:05.120> like<00:30:05.360> John<00:30:05.600> before<00:30:05.760> you » I also think too like John before you » I also think too like John before you put<00:30:06.080> something<00:30:06.320> back<00:30:06.480> in,<00:30:06.880> it<00:30:07.039> should<00:30:07.200> be put something back in, it should be put something back in, it should be somewhat<00:30:07.600> the<00:30:07.760> will<00:30:07.919> of<00:30:08.000> the<00:30:08.159> committee<00:30:08.480> too. somewhat the will of the committee too. somewhat the will of the committee too. So,<00:30:09.520> all<00:30:09.600> right. So, all right. So, all right. Um, Um, Um, oh,<00:30:14.159> the<00:30:14.399> other<00:30:14.559> thing<00:30:14.720> that<00:30:14.960> I<00:30:15.039> I<00:30:15.360> heard oh, the other thing that I I heard oh, the other thing that I I heard clear,<00:30:15.919> especially<00:30:16.240> with<00:30:16.399> the<00:30:16.640> high<00:30:16.799> school, clear, especially with the high school, clear, especially with the high school, was<00:30:18.080> absenteeism was absenteeism was absenteeism and<00:30:20.559> and<00:30:20.960> its<00:30:21.279> ability<00:30:21.679> to<00:30:21.919> really<00:30:22.080> affect and and its ability to really affect and and its ability to really affect student<00:30:22.799> outcomes.<00:30:23.600> So,<00:30:23.760> I'm<00:30:23.919> wondering<00:30:24.080> if student outcomes. So, I’m wondering if student outcomes. So, I’m wondering if we<00:30:24.399> have<00:30:24.480> we<00:30:24.720> should<00:30:24.880> have<00:30:25.039> something we have we should have something we have we should have something specific<00:30:25.760> around<00:30:26.000> that.

30:34 I’m done. I’m done. » Um,<00:30:34.640> so<00:30:34.799> a<00:30:34.960> couple<00:30:35.039> things.<00:30:35.279> Thanks<00:30:35.520> for<00:30:35.679> being » Um, so a couple things. Thanks for being » Um, so a couple things. Thanks for being as<00:30:36.799> well.<00:30:36.960> Um<00:30:37.679> so<00:30:38.000> name<00:30:38.240> of<00:30:38.399> the<00:30:38.559> goal<00:30:39.360> I<00:30:39.679> think as well. Um so name of the goal I think as well. Um so name of the goal I think whether<00:30:40.880> it's<00:30:41.039> under<00:30:41.279> the<00:30:41.360> name<00:30:41.520> of<00:30:41.600> the whether it’s under the name of the whether it’s under the name of the summary<00:30:42.000> I<00:30:42.240> think<00:30:42.320> it<00:30:42.480> needs<00:30:42.720> to<00:30:42.960> be<00:30:43.279> a<00:30:43.600> little summary I think it needs to be a little summary I think it needs to be a little bit<00:30:43.919> more<00:30:44.799> um<00:30:45.679> uh<00:30:46.240> detailed<00:30:46.799> as<00:30:47.039> to<00:30:47.360> academic bit more um uh detailed as to academic bit more um uh detailed as to academic achievement<00:30:48.240> student<00:30:48.399> growth.<00:30:48.720> What<00:30:48.880> does achievement student growth. What does achievement student growth. What does that<00:30:49.120> mean?<00:30:49.760> Um<00:30:50.080> because<00:30:50.320> this<00:30:50.880> summary<00:30:51.520> or that mean? Um because this summary or that mean? Um because this summary or description<00:30:52.080> is<00:30:52.240> a<00:30:52.480> little<00:30:53.039> sort<00:30:53.279> of<00:30:54.080> um<00:30:55.440> vague description is a little sort of um vague description is a little sort of um vague in<00:30:55.919> a<00:30:56.080> way.<00:30:56.720> I<00:30:57.039> I'm<00:30:57.279> I<00:30:57.760> just<00:30:58.000> I'm<00:30:58.320> just<00:30:58.480> one in a way. I I’m I just I’m just one in a way. I I’m I just I’m just one would<00:30:58.960> like<00:30:59.039> to<00:30:59.279> see<00:30:59.679> something<00:31:00.000> more<00:31:00.240> like<00:31:01.200> um would like to see something more like um would like to see something more like um you<00:31:02.399> know you know you know during<00:31:05.200> this<00:31:06.480> 18month<00:31:07.120> period<00:31:08.399> looking<00:31:08.720> to<00:31:09.600> um during this 18month period looking to um during this 18month period looking to um you<00:31:11.120> know<00:31:11.279> affect<00:31:11.840> academic<00:31:12.559> you<00:31:12.640> know you know affect academic you know you know affect academic you know increase<00:31:13.200> academic<00:31:13.679> achievement<00:31:14.159> and increase academic achievement and increase academic achievement and student<00:31:14.559> growth<00:31:14.880> and<00:31:15.760> measure<00:31:16.080> it<00:31:16.159> and<00:31:16.399> report student growth and measure it and report student growth and measure it and report it<00:31:17.120> something<00:31:17.360> like<00:31:17.520> that<00:31:17.760> like<00:31:18.000> some<00:31:18.320> clear

31:19 it something like that like some clear it something like that like some clear like<00:31:19.679> one<00:31:19.919> or<00:31:20.080> two<00:31:20.720> sentence<00:31:21.440> for<00:31:21.840> probably like one or two sentence for probably like one or two sentence for probably for<00:31:22.159> each<00:31:22.320> of<00:31:22.399> these<00:31:22.559> goals.<00:31:22.880> That's<00:31:23.120> what<00:31:23.279> I<00:31:23.360> I for each of these goals. That’s what I I for each of these goals. That’s what I I would<00:31:23.840> like<00:31:23.919> to<00:31:24.080> see<00:31:25.120> um<00:31:26.000> in<00:31:26.320> regards<00:31:26.799> to<00:31:27.039> the would like to see um in regards to the would like to see um in regards to the um<00:31:28.480> reporting<00:31:29.600> whether<00:31:29.919> it's<00:31:30.080> the<00:31:30.399> measure um reporting whether it’s the measure um reporting whether it’s the measure how<00:31:30.960> you<00:31:31.039> measure<00:31:31.360> the<00:31:31.520> evidence.<00:31:32.320> I<00:31:32.640> would how you measure the evidence. I would how you measure the evidence. I would like<00:31:33.039> to<00:31:33.279> see<00:31:34.640> an<00:31:35.039> explanation<00:31:35.760> or<00:31:36.159> a<00:31:36.480> almost like to see an explanation or a almost like to see an explanation or a almost like<00:31:36.960> a<00:31:37.120> maybe<00:31:37.360> a<00:31:37.519> bullet<00:31:37.760> point<00:31:38.480> of<00:31:39.200> what<00:31:39.440> it like a maybe a bullet point of what it like a maybe a bullet point of what it is<00:31:39.679> that<00:31:39.919> you<00:31:40.080> are<00:31:40.240> using<00:31:40.399> to<00:31:40.559> measure<00:31:40.880> because is that you are using to measure because is that you are using to measure because I<00:31:41.279> don't<00:31:41.440> I<00:31:41.600> I<00:31:41.760> don't<00:31:41.919> have<00:31:42.000> students<00:31:42.320> in<00:31:42.480> the I don’t I I don’t have students in the I don’t I I don’t have students in the district<00:31:42.880> anymore<00:31:43.279> so<00:31:43.440> I<00:31:43.679> don't<00:31:43.840> know<00:31:44.240> I district anymore so I don’t know I district anymore so I don’t know I vaguely<00:31:44.880> remember<00:31:45.120> stuff<00:31:45.279> but<00:31:45.519> there's<00:31:46.000> MCAST vaguely remember stuff but there’s MCAST vaguely remember stuff but there’s MCAST there’s<00:31:46.799> I<00:31:47.039> ready<00:31:47.360> there's there’s I ready there’s there’s I ready there’s » Dibbles<00:31:49.679> I<00:31:50.000> how<00:31:50.559> you<00:31:50.640> know<00:31:50.720> there's<00:31:50.880> a<00:31:51.039> bunch » Dibbles I how you know there’s a bunch » Dibbles I how you know there’s a bunch of<00:31:51.279> stuff<00:31:51.600> so<00:31:51.919> what<00:31:52.159> is<00:31:52.399> it<00:31:52.799> if<00:31:52.960> we<00:31:53.120> could<00:31:53.279> get<00:31:53.360> a of stuff so what is it if we could get a of stuff so what is it if we could get a list<00:31:54.240> of<00:31:54.480> what<00:31:54.720> it<00:31:54.880> is<00:31:55.039> you're<00:31:55.279> using<00:31:55.519> to list of what it is you’re using to list of what it is you’re using to measure<00:31:56.080> or<00:31:56.320> you're<00:31:56.559> building<00:31:56.799> the measure or you’re building the measure or you’re building the principles<00:31:57.279> you're<00:31:57.440> using<00:31:57.600> to<00:31:57.760> measure<00:31:58.000> and principles you’re using to measure and principles you’re using to measure and then<00:31:58.640> that<00:31:58.960> should<00:31:59.120> be<00:31:59.279> rolled<00:31:59.600> up<00:31:59.760> to<00:31:59.919> us<00:32:00.000> in<00:32:00.240> a then that should be rolled up to us in a then that should be rolled up to us in a quarterly<00:32:01.600> some<00:32:01.840> sort<00:32:02.159> of<00:32:02.399> frequent<00:32:03.039> some quarterly some sort of frequent some quarterly some sort of frequent some sort<00:32:03.440> of<00:32:03.519> frequency<00:32:03.919> during<00:32:04.080> the<00:32:04.240> school<00:32:04.399> year

32:04 sort of frequency during the school year sort of frequency during the school year that<00:32:04.880> coincides<00:32:05.440> with<00:32:05.600> that that coincides with that that coincides with that » that<00:32:07.519> that<00:32:08.000> med<00:32:08.559> um<00:32:09.679> testing<00:32:10.080> that<00:32:10.320> you<00:32:10.480> do.<00:32:10.960> So » that that med um testing that you do. So » that that med um testing that you do. So maybe<00:32:11.440> let's<00:32:11.600> say<00:32:11.679> it's<00:32:11.919> let's<00:32:12.159> just<00:32:12.320> say<00:32:12.480> it's maybe let’s say it’s let’s just say it’s maybe let’s say it’s let’s just say it’s or<00:32:13.519> let's<00:32:13.679> say<00:32:13.760> it's<00:32:13.919> trimesters.<00:32:14.480> Let's<00:32:14.559> say or let’s say it’s trimesters. Let’s say or let’s say it’s trimesters. Let’s say it’s<00:32:14.799> every<00:32:15.039> 3<00:32:15.200> months<00:32:15.440> or<00:32:15.679> nine<00:32:15.919> months<00:32:16.559> or<00:32:16.799> 10 it’s every 3 months or nine months or 10 it’s every 3 months or nine months or 10 months<00:32:17.200> full<00:32:17.519> year.<00:32:18.559> Maybe<00:32:18.799> the<00:32:19.039> first<00:32:19.200> one months full year. Maybe the first one months full year. Maybe the first one you’re<00:32:19.679> going<00:32:19.760> to<00:32:19.919> report,<00:32:20.399> you<00:32:20.559> know,<00:32:20.720> I you’re going to report, you know, I you’re going to report, you know, I ready<00:32:21.200> results<00:32:22.240> and<00:32:22.559> the<00:32:22.720> second<00:32:22.880> one<00:32:23.039> you're ready results and the second one you’re ready results and the second one you’re going<00:32:23.360> to<00:32:23.519> report<00:32:24.000> MCCAST<00:32:24.640> results<00:32:25.120> and going to report MCCAST results and going to report MCCAST results and whatever<00:32:26.159> it<00:32:26.399> is<00:32:27.039> um<00:32:27.120> that<00:32:27.360> each<00:32:27.600> building whatever it is um that each building whatever it is um that each building principal<00:32:28.799> presents<00:32:29.360> and<00:32:29.600> anything<00:32:29.919> else principal presents and anything else principal presents and anything else that<00:32:30.399> you<00:32:30.640> want<00:32:30.720> to<00:32:31.039> you<00:32:31.200> know<00:32:31.440> throw<00:32:31.679> in<00:32:31.919> the that you want to you know throw in the that you want to you know throw in the in<00:32:32.559> the<00:32:32.799> soup<00:32:33.679> um<00:32:33.840> as<00:32:34.000> to<00:32:34.240> how<00:32:34.399> you're in the soup um as to how you’re in the soup um as to how you’re measuring<00:32:34.880> and<00:32:35.120> that<00:32:35.279> can<00:32:35.519> be<00:32:35.600> up<00:32:35.760> to<00:32:35.840> your measuring and that can be up to your measuring and that can be up to your principles.<00:32:36.480> But<00:32:36.559> I<00:32:36.720> think<00:32:36.799> we<00:32:36.960> should<00:32:37.120> know principles. But I think we should know principles. But I think we should know what<00:32:37.519> that<00:32:37.760> is<00:32:38.159> and<00:32:38.480> know<00:32:38.720> when<00:32:38.960> we're<00:32:39.200> going what that is and know when we’re going what that is and know when we’re going to<00:32:39.519> hear<00:32:39.760> it. to hear it. to hear it. » Um » Um » Um » get<00:32:41.279> as<00:32:41.519> specific<00:32:41.840> as<00:32:42.080> possible<00:32:42.720> where<00:32:42.960> it's » get as specific as possible where it’s » get as specific as possible where it’s coming. coming. coming. » Yeah.<00:32:44.399> Um<00:32:44.799> and<00:32:44.960> and<00:32:45.279> included<00:32:45.760> in<00:32:45.919> that<00:32:46.240> is<00:32:46.480> the » Yeah. Um and and included in that is the » Yeah. Um and and included in that is the compare.<00:32:47.120> I<00:32:47.279> agree<00:32:47.519> with<00:32:47.600> the<00:32:47.760> comparisons<00:32:48.240> to compare. I agree with the comparisons to compare. I agree with the comparisons to the<00:32:48.559> other<00:32:48.720> school<00:32:48.880> districts.<00:32:49.200> You<00:32:49.440> can<00:32:49.760> pick

32:49 the other school districts. You can pick the other school districts. You can pick what<00:32:50.240> school<00:32:50.559> or<00:32:50.720> we<00:32:50.880> can<00:32:51.039> collaborate<00:32:51.440> on<00:32:51.600> it, what school or we can collaborate on it, what school or we can collaborate on it, but<00:32:52.000> we<00:32:52.320> sort<00:32:52.559> of<00:32:52.640> rely<00:32:52.880> on<00:32:53.120> you.<00:32:53.919> Um<00:32:54.640> I<00:32:54.960> do but we sort of rely on you. Um I do but we sort of rely on you. Um I do think<00:32:55.519> that<00:32:56.000> we<00:32:56.320> need<00:32:56.559> to think that we need to think that we need to be<00:32:58.320> focused<00:32:58.720> on<00:32:59.120> special<00:32:59.440> education.<00:33:00.799> Um<00:33:01.120> I<00:33:01.360> do be focused on special education. Um I do be focused on special education. Um I do know<00:33:01.679> the<00:33:01.840> other<00:33:02.080> night<00:33:02.320> like<00:33:02.480> you<00:33:02.640> know<00:33:03.200> um know the other night like you know um know the other night like you know um Lisa<00:33:03.760> Marie<00:33:04.480> had<00:33:04.640> like<00:33:04.799> one<00:33:04.960> or<00:33:05.200> two<00:33:05.360> slides. Lisa Marie had like one or two slides. Lisa Marie had like one or two slides. But<00:33:06.399> I<00:33:06.640> think<00:33:07.279> that<00:33:07.600> need<00:33:08.000> there<00:33:08.240> there<00:33:08.480> needs But I think that need there there needs But I think that need there there needs to<00:33:08.960> be<00:33:09.039> kind<00:33:09.279> of<00:33:09.360> a<00:33:10.080> holistic<00:33:10.640> approach to be kind of a holistic approach to be kind of a holistic approach because<00:33:11.200> the<00:33:11.440> special<00:33:11.679> education<00:33:12.159> I<00:33:12.320> think<00:33:12.399> is because the special education I think is because the special education I think is very<00:33:13.600> um<00:33:14.240> for<00:33:14.480> parents<00:33:14.799> that<00:33:15.039> are<00:33:15.519> special very um for parents that are special very um for parents that are special parents<00:33:16.960> they're<00:33:17.360> sort<00:33:17.519> of<00:33:18.320> you<00:33:18.559> know<00:33:19.039> like parents they’re sort of you know like parents they’re sort of you know like neck<00:33:19.519> deep<00:33:19.679> in<00:33:20.000> all<00:33:20.159> that<00:33:20.559> and<00:33:20.720> if<00:33:20.880> you're<00:33:20.960> not neck deep in all that and if you’re not neck deep in all that and if you’re not a<00:33:21.279> special<00:33:21.519> education<00:33:21.840> parent<00:33:22.080> you<00:33:22.240> have<00:33:22.320> no a special education parent you have no a special education parent you have no idea<00:33:23.600> what<00:33:24.240> that<00:33:24.559> means<00:33:24.799> and<00:33:25.039> what<00:33:25.200> that<00:33:25.360> means idea what that means and what that means idea what that means and what that means to<00:33:25.840> our<00:33:26.240> to<00:33:26.559> our<00:33:26.960> results<00:33:27.519> and<00:33:27.760> it<00:33:28.000> has<00:33:28.320> an to our to our results and it has an to our to our results and it has an effect<00:33:28.720> on<00:33:28.880> it.<00:33:29.039> So<00:33:29.200> I<00:33:29.360> think<00:33:29.519> it's<00:33:29.679> important effect on it. So I think it’s important effect on it. So I think it’s important for<00:33:30.159> everyone<00:33:30.480> to<00:33:30.640> understand.<00:33:31.120> I<00:33:31.360> know<00:33:31.440> it's for everyone to understand. I know it’s for everyone to understand. I know it’s sensitive<00:33:33.679> to<00:33:34.000> talk<00:33:34.240> about,<00:33:35.039> but<00:33:35.440> it<00:33:35.760> needs<00:33:36.000> to

33:36 sensitive to talk about, but it needs to sensitive to talk about, but it needs to be<00:33:37.120> explained<00:33:37.600> to<00:33:37.840> the<00:33:38.000> community,<00:33:38.799> you<00:33:38.960> know, be explained to the community, you know, be explained to the community, you know, that<00:33:39.279> there<00:33:39.440> are<00:33:39.679> students<00:33:40.000> that<00:33:40.720> um<00:33:41.519> that that there are students that um that that there are students that um that struggle<00:33:42.159> and<00:33:42.399> that's<00:33:42.640> in<00:33:43.120> all<00:33:43.360> of<00:33:43.519> in<00:33:43.840> these struggle and that’s in all of in these struggle and that’s in all of in these in<00:33:44.399> these<00:33:44.640> in<00:33:44.880> these<00:33:45.120> measurements.<00:33:46.080> And<00:33:46.320> then in these in these measurements. And then in these in these measurements. And then and<00:33:46.640> and<00:33:46.960> I'm<00:33:47.120> sure<00:33:47.360> Lis<00:33:47.679> Marie<00:33:47.919> has<00:33:48.320> we<00:33:48.480> could and and I’m sure Lis Marie has we could and and I’m sure Lis Marie has we could even<00:33:48.880> lend<00:33:49.200> one<00:33:49.519> entire<00:33:50.640> reporting<00:33:51.519> meeting even lend one entire reporting meeting even lend one entire reporting meeting to<00:33:52.080> her to her to her » in<00:33:53.120> her<00:33:53.279> world.<00:33:53.840> Um<00:33:54.399> I'm<00:33:54.720> going<00:33:54.799> to<00:33:55.360> suggest » in her world. Um I’m going to suggest » in her world. Um I’m going to suggest I’m<00:33:55.919> going<00:33:56.000> to<00:33:56.080> push<00:33:56.320> back<00:33:56.480> on<00:33:56.559> the I’m going to push back on the I’m going to push back on the absenteeism<00:33:57.919> in<00:33:58.159> that<00:33:58.559> and<00:33:58.960> guys<00:33:59.279> jump<00:33:59.440> in<00:33:59.600> if absenteeism in that and guys jump in if absenteeism in that and guys jump in if you<00:33:59.840> think<00:33:59.919> I'm<00:34:00.080> wrong.<00:34:00.240> Absenteeism<00:34:01.200> is<00:34:01.360> a

34:07 is a um sounds like it’s a chronic issue is a um sounds like it’s a chronic issue that’s<00:34:08.079> affecting<00:34:08.399> our<00:34:08.639> results, that’s affecting our results, that’s affecting our results, but<00:34:10.720> you're<00:34:11.040> dealing<00:34:11.359> like<00:34:11.520> we<00:34:11.760> have<00:34:11.839> a<00:34:12.000> policy but you’re dealing like we have a policy but you’re dealing like we have a policy around<00:34:12.560> absenteeism.<00:34:13.280> We<00:34:13.440> have<00:34:13.520> a<00:34:13.839> handbook around absenteeism. We have a handbook around absenteeism. We have a handbook around<00:34:14.399> absenteeism.<00:34:15.839> You're<00:34:16.320> frankly around absenteeism. You’re frankly around absenteeism. You’re frankly responsible<00:34:17.200> on<00:34:17.359> your<00:34:17.520> team<00:34:17.760> for<00:34:18.000> like responsible on your team for like responsible on your team for like dealing<00:34:18.399> with<00:34:18.560> this.<00:34:18.800> I<00:34:18.960> think<00:34:19.040> reporting<00:34:19.440> to dealing with this. I think reporting to dealing with this. I think reporting to us<00:34:19.839> is<00:34:20.079> maybe<00:34:20.399> fine,<00:34:20.720> but<00:34:21.440> like<00:34:22.480> and<00:34:22.639> if<00:34:22.800> you us is maybe fine, but like and if you us is maybe fine, but like and if you need<00:34:23.119> us<00:34:23.280> to<00:34:23.359> change<00:34:23.520> a<00:34:23.760> policy,<00:34:24.079> that's<00:34:24.240> fine, need us to change a policy, that’s fine, need us to change a policy, that’s fine, but<00:34:24.720> we're<00:34:24.960> not<00:34:25.200> responsible<00:34:25.760> for<00:34:25.919> the but we’re not responsible for the but we’re not responsible for the absenteeism<00:34:26.960> is<00:34:27.040> a<00:34:27.119> little<00:34:27.200> bit absenteeism is a little bit absenteeism is a little bit » like<00:34:29.119> they<00:34:29.359> you<00:34:29.520> know<00:34:29.760> principal

34:35 » goal versus » goal versus » I<00:34:36.079> would<00:34:36.480> I<00:34:36.639> mean » I would I mean » I would I mean informs<00:34:39.760> you<00:34:40.879> right<00:34:41.359> um<00:34:41.440> but<00:34:41.679> it<00:34:41.919> is<00:34:42.240> it<00:34:42.480> is<00:34:42.639> a informs you right um but it is it is a informs you right um but it is it is a type<00:34:43.599> of<00:34:43.679> thing<00:34:44.960> was<00:34:45.119> talking<00:34:45.280> about<00:34:45.440> the type of thing was talking about the type of thing was talking about the other<00:34:45.599> day<00:34:45.919> like<00:34:46.800> it's<00:34:47.119> been<00:34:47.280> chronically other day like it’s been chronically other day like it’s been chronically chronic<00:34:48.720> it<00:34:48.879> wasn't<00:34:49.119> just<00:34:49.440> around<00:34:49.919> like<00:34:50.159> the chronic it wasn’t just around like the chronic it wasn’t just around like the absolution<00:34:50.960> of<00:34:51.200> the<00:34:51.520> you<00:34:51.599> know<00:34:51.760> the<00:34:52.399> makeup absolution of the you know the makeup absolution of the you know the makeup day<00:34:52.960> of<00:34:53.359> it<00:34:53.520> wasn't<00:34:53.760> just<00:34:53.919> around<00:34:54.320> the<00:34:54.639> caps day of it wasn’t just around the caps day of it wasn’t just around the caps like<00:34:56.000> we<00:34:56.800> so<00:34:57.040> how<00:34:57.119> do<00:34:57.280> we<00:34:57.920> yeah<00:34:58.160> how<00:34:58.240> do<00:34:58.400> we like we so how do we yeah how do we like we so how do we yeah how do we address<00:34:58.720> that<00:34:58.960> that's<00:34:59.359> Yeah,<00:34:59.520> that's<00:34:59.839> a address that that’s Yeah, that’s a address that that’s Yeah, that’s a little<00:35:00.240> more<00:35:00.400> systemic<00:35:01.040> than<00:35:01.359> you<00:35:01.520> know little more systemic than you know little more systemic than you know superficial superficial superficial and<00:35:04.079> those<00:35:04.480> you<00:35:04.560> know<00:35:04.800> one<00:35:05.040> of<00:35:05.040> the<00:35:05.119> things and those you know one of the things and those you know one of the things where<00:35:06.400> you<00:35:06.560> know<00:35:06.640> that's<00:35:06.960> that's<00:35:07.599> uh<00:35:08.079> that's where you know that’s that’s uh that’s where you know that’s that’s uh that’s that’s<00:35:09.119> Shell's<00:35:09.440> team<00:35:09.760> especially<00:35:10.480> to<00:35:10.640> kind that’s Shell’s team especially to kind that’s Shell’s team especially to kind of<00:35:11.920> teams<00:35:12.560> into captured in here but captured in here but » and<00:35:18.640> for<00:35:18.800> for<00:35:19.119> what<00:35:19.280> it's<00:35:19.520> worth<00:35:20.240> in<00:35:20.400> terms<00:35:20.640> of » and for for what it’s worth in terms of » and for for what it’s worth in terms of academic<00:35:21.520> achievement<00:35:22.000> student<00:35:22.240> growth<00:35:22.800> it

35:23 academic achievement student growth it academic achievement student growth it um<00:35:23.760> and<00:35:24.000> so<00:35:24.240> some<00:35:24.320> of<00:35:24.400> that<00:35:24.560> may<00:35:24.720> also um and so some of that may also um and so some of that may also particularly<00:35:25.440> to<00:35:25.680> K's<00:35:25.920> point<00:35:26.240> of<00:35:26.400> high<00:35:26.560> school particularly to K’s point of high school particularly to K’s point of high school which<00:35:26.880> I<00:35:27.040> think<00:35:27.119> is<00:35:27.599> very<00:35:27.920> important<00:35:28.720> and<00:35:28.960> I'd which I think is very important and I’d which I think is very important and I’d like<00:35:29.280> to<00:35:29.440> see<00:35:29.599> like<00:35:29.920> you<00:35:30.079> know<00:35:30.240> AP<00:35:30.800> results like to see like you know AP results like to see like you know AP results number<00:35:31.520> of<00:35:31.680> students<00:35:31.920> taking<00:35:32.320> AP<00:35:32.960> those number of students taking AP those number of students taking AP those because<00:35:33.920> part<00:35:34.160> of<00:35:34.320> what<00:35:34.720> for<00:35:34.960> this<00:35:35.200> academic because part of what for this academic because part of what for this academic achievement<00:35:36.480> is<00:35:36.720> also<00:35:37.040> college<00:35:37.280> readiness achievement is also college readiness achievement is also college readiness 97%<00:35:39.040> or<00:35:39.280> 8%<00:35:39.599> of<00:35:39.760> our<00:35:39.920> students<00:35:40.160> particularly 97% or 8% of our students particularly 97% or 8% of our students particularly to<00:35:40.800> college<00:35:41.200> we<00:35:41.359> effectively<00:35:41.920> are<00:35:42.240> a<00:35:42.480> college to college we effectively are a college to college we effectively are a college preparatory<00:35:43.359> high<00:35:43.599> school<00:35:44.480> um<00:35:44.720> and<00:35:45.040> so<00:35:45.680> what preparatory high school um and so what preparatory high school um and so what are<00:35:46.000> the<00:35:46.160> other<00:35:46.320> and<00:35:46.480> there<00:35:46.640> are<00:35:46.800> measurements are the other and there are measurements are the other and there are measurements around<00:35:47.920> SAT<00:35:48.480> scores<00:35:48.960> ACT<00:35:49.440> scores<00:35:50.320> AP<00:35:51.520> um<00:35:52.320> uh around SAT scores ACT scores AP um uh around SAT scores ACT scores AP um uh that<00:35:53.040> all<00:35:53.599> informs<00:35:54.480> whether<00:35:54.800> our<00:35:55.040> students that all informs whether our students that all informs whether our students are<00:35:55.440> ready<00:35:55.680> for<00:35:56.000> college<00:35:56.320> and<00:35:56.560> we<00:35:56.720> do<00:35:56.880> hear are ready for college and we do hear are ready for college and we do hear back<00:35:57.440> from<00:35:57.680> students<00:35:58.000> we<00:35:58.160> also<00:35:58.400> hear<00:35:58.640> about back from students we also hear about back from students we also hear about the<00:35:59.280> fact<00:35:59.359> that<00:35:59.599> we<00:35:59.760> don't<00:35:59.839> do<00:36:00.000> midterms<00:36:00.480> is<00:36:00.640> an the fact that we don’t do midterms is an the fact that we don’t do midterms is an issue<00:36:00.960> for<00:36:01.200> some<00:36:01.359> returning<00:36:01.839> college issue for some returning college issue for some returning college students<00:36:02.560> saying<00:36:03.040> I<00:36:03.280> wasn't<00:36:03.520> prepared students saying I wasn’t prepared students saying I wasn’t prepared because<00:36:04.079> they<00:36:04.240> didn't<00:36:04.480> have<00:36:04.560> midterms.<00:36:05.440> Um because they didn’t have midterms. Um because they didn’t have midterms. Um and<00:36:07.520> so<00:36:07.680> I<00:36:07.920> think<00:36:08.000> that<00:36:08.320> you<00:36:08.480> know<00:36:08.560> that<00:36:08.880> would

36:09 and so I think that you know that would and so I think that you know that would definitely<00:36:09.760> be<00:36:09.920> helpful.<00:36:10.320> Um<00:36:10.800> I<00:36:11.119> personally definitely be helpful. Um I personally definitely be helpful. Um I personally would<00:36:11.920> like<00:36:12.079> to<00:36:12.240> see<00:36:12.480> this<00:36:12.640> isn't<00:36:13.040> necessarily would like to see this isn’t necessarily would like to see this isn’t necessarily under<00:36:13.839> this<00:36:14.000> goal<00:36:14.160> but<00:36:14.320> I've<00:36:14.480> asked<00:36:14.640> for<00:36:14.800> this under this goal but I’ve asked for this under this goal but I’ve asked for this for<00:36:15.200> years<00:36:16.079> is<00:36:16.560> to<00:36:16.880> be<00:36:16.960> informed<00:36:17.440> as<00:36:17.680> to<00:36:18.640> where for years is to be informed as to where for years is to be informed as to where we<00:36:19.119> are<00:36:19.280> sending<00:36:19.520> our<00:36:19.760> students<00:36:20.640> everywhere we are sending our students everywhere we are sending our students everywhere we’re<00:36:21.280> sending<00:36:21.599> them<00:36:22.560> not<00:36:22.800> who<00:36:23.280> but<00:36:23.680> where<00:36:24.640> um we’re sending them not who but where um we’re sending them not who but where um are<00:36:25.040> going<00:36:25.200> to<00:36:25.440> which<00:36:25.839> you<00:36:25.920> know<00:36:26.160> which are going to which you know which are going to which you know which colleges<00:36:26.880> and<00:36:27.119> where<00:36:27.280> else<00:36:27.680> military<00:36:28.960> uh<00:36:29.440> you colleges and where else military uh you colleges and where else military uh you know know know » you<00:36:31.599> know<00:36:31.839> whatever<00:36:32.320> you<00:36:32.480> know<00:36:32.560> wherever<00:36:32.880> else » you know whatever you know wherever else » you know whatever you know wherever else our<00:36:33.280> students<00:36:33.440> are<00:36:33.599> going<00:36:33.839> I<00:36:34.000> think<00:36:34.079> that's our students are going I think that’s our students are going I think that’s all<00:36:34.640> part<00:36:35.280> because<00:36:35.520> if<00:36:35.680> you<00:36:35.839> drop<00:36:36.079> down<00:36:36.320> to<00:36:36.480> the all part because if you drop down to the all part because if you drop down to the um<00:36:38.320> the<00:36:38.560> evidence<00:36:38.960> is<00:36:39.040> the<00:36:39.200> next<00:36:39.599> And<00:36:40.240> you um the evidence is the next And you um the evidence is the next And you know,<00:36:40.640> I<00:36:40.800> guess<00:36:40.880> the<00:36:41.119> evidence,<00:36:41.520> it's<00:36:41.920> all know, I guess the evidence, it’s all know, I guess the evidence, it’s all about<00:36:42.400> communicating.<00:36:43.119> And<00:36:43.359> to<00:36:43.599> Henry,<00:36:44.000> your about communicating. And to Henry, your about communicating. And to Henry, your point,<00:36:44.560> your<00:36:45.280> giving<00:36:45.599> us<00:36:45.760> this<00:36:46.079> information. point, your giving us this information. point, your giving us this information. We’re<00:36:46.720> just<00:36:46.880> simply<00:36:47.119> a<00:36:47.280> conduit<00:36:47.680> to<00:36:47.839> the We’re just simply a conduit to the We’re just simply a conduit to the » to<00:36:48.720> the<00:36:48.880> community.<00:36:49.200> I<00:36:49.280> mean,<00:36:49.520> yes,<00:36:49.680> it » to the community. I mean, yes, it » to the community. I mean, yes, it informs<00:36:50.240> us<00:36:50.480> on<00:36:50.720> some<00:36:50.960> decisions,<00:36:51.359> but<00:36:52.000> your informs us on some decisions, but your informs us on some decisions, but your reporting<00:36:52.720> to<00:36:52.880> us<00:36:53.280> is<00:36:53.520> is<00:36:54.000> after<00:36:54.320> the<00:36:54.560> fact

36:54 reporting to us is is after the fact reporting to us is is after the fact from<00:36:55.040> the<00:36:55.280> decisions<00:36:55.680> we've<00:36:56.000> made from the decisions we’ve made from the decisions we’ve made » and<00:36:57.280> maybe<00:36:57.599> will<00:36:58.480> um<00:36:58.640> inform<00:36:59.040> future » and maybe will um inform future » and maybe will um inform future decisions,<00:36:59.760> but<00:36:59.920> it's<00:37:00.079> a<00:37:00.240> moment<00:37:00.400> in<00:37:00.640> time, decisions, but it’s a moment in time, decisions, but it’s a moment in time, which<00:37:01.200> is<00:37:01.359> just<00:37:01.520> simply<00:37:02.000> a<00:37:02.240> way<00:37:02.400> to which is just simply a way to which is just simply a way to communicate<00:37:03.520> to<00:37:03.839> the<00:37:04.000> public. communicate to the public. communicate to the public. Um,<00:37:06.079> if<00:37:06.320> I<00:37:06.480> could<00:37:06.640> to<00:37:06.800> Jen's<00:37:07.119> point,<00:37:07.359> I<00:37:07.599> know Um, if I could to Jen’s point, I know Um, if I could to Jen’s point, I know from<00:37:07.920> Julia<00:37:08.480> that<00:37:09.359> is<00:37:09.520> it<00:37:09.680> AREAd,<00:37:10.240> the<00:37:10.560> data from Julia that is it AREAd, the data from Julia that is it AREAd, the data program<00:37:11.200> that<00:37:12.320> now<00:37:12.640> has<00:37:12.880> the<00:37:13.119> ability program that now has the ability program that now has the ability for<00:37:14.960> her<00:37:15.119> to<00:37:15.280> get<00:37:15.440> data<00:37:15.760> on<00:37:16.079> how<00:37:16.400> our<00:37:16.720> students for her to get data on how our students for her to get data on how our students are<00:37:17.200> doing<00:37:17.680> in<00:37:17.920> college.<00:37:18.800> And<00:37:19.040> I<00:37:19.280> would<00:37:19.520> be are doing in college. And I would be are doing in college. And I would be interested<00:37:20.240> in<00:37:20.880> figuring<00:37:21.200> out<00:37:21.359> a<00:37:21.520> way<00:37:21.599> to interested in figuring out a way to interested in figuring out a way to incorporate<00:37:22.240> that<00:37:22.480> into<00:37:22.800> the<00:37:22.960> reporting<00:37:23.280> that incorporate that into the reporting that incorporate that into the reporting that we’re<00:37:23.920> getting. we’re getting. we’re getting. » Self-reporting?<00:37:25.200> how<00:37:25.359> they » Self-reporting? how they » Self-reporting? how they » I’m<00:37:25.760> not<00:37:25.839> totally<00:37:26.240> sure,<00:37:26.640> but<00:37:28.000> um<00:37:28.400> you<00:37:28.560> know, » I’m not totally sure, but um you know, » I’m not totally sure, but um you know, but<00:37:28.880> to<00:37:29.040> the<00:37:29.200> extent<00:37:29.520> maybe<00:37:29.760> it<00:37:29.920> can<00:37:30.079> be but to the extent maybe it can be but to the extent maybe it can be coupled<00:37:30.480> with<00:37:30.560> some<00:37:30.800> reporting<00:37:31.119> on<00:37:31.359> like<00:37:31.520> this coupled with some reporting on like this coupled with some reporting on like this is<00:37:31.760> where<00:37:31.920> our<00:37:32.160> students<00:37:32.480> are<00:37:32.640> going<00:37:32.880> and<00:37:33.119> the is where our students are going and the is where our students are going and the evidence<00:37:33.920> of<00:37:34.079> how<00:37:34.320> they're<00:37:34.560> doing<00:37:34.800> when<00:37:34.960> they evidence of how they’re doing when they evidence of how they’re doing when they get<00:37:35.200> there. get there. get there. » I<00:37:35.520> mean,<00:37:35.760> one<00:37:35.920> thing<00:37:36.079> that's<00:37:36.320> always<00:37:36.560> stuck » I mean, one thing that’s always stuck » I mean, one thing that’s always stuck out<00:37:37.040> at<00:37:37.200> me<00:37:37.359> because<00:37:37.599> I<00:37:37.839> didn't<00:37:38.079> go<00:37:38.160> to<00:37:38.320> public out at me because I didn’t go to public out at me because I didn’t go to public high<00:37:38.720> school,<00:37:38.800> I<00:37:38.880> went<00:37:39.040> to<00:37:39.440> school<00:37:40.079> and<00:37:40.320> so

37:40 high school, I went to school and so high school, I went to school and so it’s<00:37:40.640> a<00:37:40.800> different<00:37:41.520> obviously<00:37:41.920> different it’s a different obviously different it’s a different obviously different animal.<00:37:42.480> We<00:37:42.640> have<00:37:42.720> alumni<00:37:43.280> relations. animal. We have alumni relations. animal. We have alumni relations. It’s<00:37:45.040> about<00:37:45.280> money,<00:37:45.599> but<00:37:46.160> um<00:37:46.560> they<00:37:47.119> point<00:37:47.520> that It’s about money, but um they point that It’s about money, but um they point that they<00:37:48.640> private<00:37:48.880> institutions<00:37:49.359> can't<00:37:49.520> hang<00:37:49.680> on they private institutions can’t hang on they private institutions can’t hang on to<00:37:50.000> the<00:37:50.160> information<00:37:50.960> and<00:37:51.200> are<00:37:51.359> in<00:37:51.599> contact to the information and are in contact to the information and are in contact with<00:37:51.920> their<00:37:52.160> graduates.<00:37:52.480> We<00:37:52.640> are<00:37:52.880> not.<00:37:53.440> We with their graduates. We are not. We with their graduates. We are not. We never<00:37:53.920> have<00:37:54.079> been.<00:37:54.240> And<00:37:54.400> I<00:37:54.480> know<00:37:54.640> public never have been. And I know public never have been. And I know public schools<00:37:55.119> don't<00:37:55.200> forget<00:37:55.440> that,<00:37:55.520> but<00:37:55.760> is<00:37:55.920> there schools don’t forget that, but is there schools don’t forget that, but is there some<00:37:56.560> way<00:37:57.119> that<00:37:57.359> we<00:37:57.680> try<00:37:58.079> to<00:37:58.240> hang<00:37:58.480> on?<00:37:58.640> I<00:37:58.800> mean, some way that we try to hang on? I mean, some way that we try to hang on? I mean, the<00:37:59.040> the<00:37:59.119> the<00:37:59.680> class<00:37:59.920> officers<00:38:00.400> do<00:38:00.560> because the the the class officers do because the the the class officers do because they<00:38:01.040> have<00:38:01.280> reunions<00:38:02.160> and<00:38:02.400> they,<00:38:02.800> you<00:38:02.960> know, they have reunions and they, you know, they have reunions and they, you know, they<00:38:03.520> stay<00:38:03.680> in<00:38:03.920> touch<00:38:04.079> for<00:38:04.400> social<00:38:04.720> reasons, they stay in touch for social reasons, they stay in touch for social reasons, but<00:38:06.079> um<00:38:06.400> is<00:38:06.640> there<00:38:06.800> any<00:38:07.119> way<00:38:07.599> to<00:38:07.839> try<00:38:08.079> to<00:38:08.320> be but um is there any way to try to be but um is there any way to try to be ballistic<00:38:09.040> or<00:38:09.200> something?<00:38:09.359> The<00:38:09.680> the<00:38:09.839> only ballistic or something? The the only ballistic or something? The the only mechanism<00:38:10.800> currently<00:38:11.280> that<00:38:11.440> I'm<00:38:11.680> aware<00:38:11.839> of<00:38:12.000> is mechanism currently that I’m aware of is mechanism currently that I’m aware of is with<00:38:12.400> the<00:38:12.560> specialized<00:38:13.040> students<00:38:13.599> that with the specialized students that with the specialized students that there’s<00:38:14.160> an<00:38:14.320> indicator<00:38:14.720> that<00:38:14.800> you<00:38:15.040> have<00:38:15.119> to there’s an indicator that you have to there’s an indicator that you have to follow<00:38:15.520> up<00:38:15.680> with<00:38:15.839> them<00:38:16.079> postgraduation follow up with them postgraduation follow up with them postgraduation post<00:38:17.920> most<00:38:18.320> you<00:38:18.400> know<00:38:19.280> post<00:38:19.599> 22<00:38:20.720> not post most you know post 22 not post most you know post 22 not graduation<00:38:21.440> of<00:38:21.680> where<00:38:21.920> they<00:38:22.000> are<00:38:22.240> what graduation of where they are what graduation of where they are what they’re<00:38:22.640> doing<00:38:23.280> blah<00:38:23.440> blah<00:38:23.680> blah<00:38:23.839> but<00:38:24.000> that's they’re doing blah blah blah but that’s they’re doing blah blah blah but that’s still<00:38:24.480> like<00:38:24.640> a<00:38:24.800> year<00:38:24.960> out<00:38:25.440> that<00:38:25.760> kind<00:38:25.920> of

38:26 still like a year out that kind of still like a year out that kind of dissipates.<00:38:26.720> So dissipates. So dissipates. So » I<00:38:28.560> mean<00:38:28.640> I<00:38:28.800> just<00:38:29.200> cur<00:38:29.440> it's<00:38:29.760> it's<00:38:30.079> just<00:38:30.320> of<00:38:30.400> a » I mean I just cur it’s it’s just of a » I mean I just cur it’s it’s just of a long-term<00:38:31.119> project<00:38:31.359> I've<00:38:31.839> often<00:38:32.160> thought long-term project I’ve often thought long-term project I’ve often thought about<00:38:32.560> even<00:38:32.800> a<00:38:32.960> senior<00:38:33.200> project<00:38:33.599> like<00:38:34.160> your about even a senior project like your about even a senior project like your officers<00:38:34.960> do<00:38:35.280> believe<00:38:35.520> me<00:38:35.760> stay<00:38:35.920> in<00:38:36.079> touch. officers do believe me stay in touch. officers do believe me stay in touch. I’m<00:38:36.880> old<00:38:37.200> and<00:38:37.440> my<00:38:37.839> class<00:38:38.160> officers<00:38:38.640> from I’m old and my class officers from I’m old and my class officers from Marble<00:38:39.200> High<00:38:39.359> School<00:38:39.520> are<00:38:39.680> still<00:38:39.839> the<00:38:40.079> class Marble High School are still the class Marble High School are still the class officers<00:38:41.040> and<00:38:41.200> they<00:38:41.440> do<00:38:41.599> stay<00:38:41.760> in<00:38:42.000> touch<00:38:42.800> um officers and they do stay in touch um officers and they do stay in touch um with<00:38:43.280> students.<00:38:43.599> So<00:38:43.760> there<00:38:44.000> is<00:38:44.240> a<00:38:44.560> conduit<00:38:45.359> you with students. So there is a conduit you with students. So there is a conduit you know<00:38:45.599> I<00:38:45.839> don't<00:38:45.920> know<00:38:46.000> whether<00:38:46.320> there's<00:38:46.560> way<00:38:46.800> to know I don’t know whether there’s way to know I don’t know whether there’s way to be<00:38:47.119> able<00:38:47.359> to<00:38:48.240> get<00:38:48.640> maybe<00:38:48.960> better<00:38:49.280> data be able to get maybe better data be able to get maybe better data » um<00:38:50.640> in<00:38:50.880> terms<00:38:51.040> of<00:38:51.839> um<00:38:52.240> in<00:38:52.560> terms<00:38:52.720> of<00:38:53.359> success<00:38:53.680> of » um in terms of um in terms of success of » um in terms of um in terms of success of students<00:38:54.240> you<00:38:54.320> know<00:38:54.480> most<00:38:54.640> of<00:38:54.720> it<00:38:54.880> I<00:38:55.040> think<00:38:55.119> is students you know most of it I think is students you know most of it I think is anecdotal<00:38:56.320> you<00:38:56.480> know<00:38:56.640> at<00:38:56.800> this<00:38:56.960> point anecdotal you know at this point anecdotal you know at this point » my<00:38:57.440> assumption<00:38:57.760> based<00:38:57.920> on<00:38:58.079> what<00:38:58.240> Julia<00:38:58.640> said » my assumption based on what Julia said » my assumption based on what Julia said is<00:38:58.960> that<00:38:59.280> you<00:38:59.440> know<00:38:59.680> colleges<00:39:00.079> are<00:39:00.320> also<00:39:00.560> using is that you know colleges are also using is that you know colleges are also using this<00:39:01.040> data<00:39:01.359> platform<00:39:01.760> and<00:39:01.920> so<00:39:02.000> that<00:39:02.240> there's this data platform and so that there’s this data platform and so that there’s some some some » maybe<00:39:02.960> they're<00:39:03.119> sharing<00:39:03.440> it<00:39:03.599> in<00:39:04.480> there<00:39:04.880> but » maybe they’re sharing it in there but » maybe they’re sharing it in there but I’m<00:39:05.440> not<00:39:05.599> I<00:39:05.760> mean

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39:17 back um from your graduates back um from your graduates » in<00:39:17.359> aggregate.<00:39:17.760> Yeah,<00:39:17.920> that<00:39:18.079> could<00:39:18.240> be.<00:39:18.400> Yeah. » in aggregate. Yeah, that could be. Yeah. » in aggregate. Yeah, that could be. Yeah. » So,<00:39:19.440> I'm<00:39:19.680> kind<00:39:19.839> of<00:39:20.000> curious<00:39:20.320> too. » And also specifically at the high » And also specifically at the high school,<00:39:28.480> I<00:39:28.720> think<00:39:28.960> AP<00:39:29.359> scores<00:39:29.680> are<00:39:29.839> a<00:39:30.079> great school, I think AP scores are a great school, I think AP scores are a great way<00:39:31.040> of<00:39:31.200> looking<00:39:31.440> at<00:39:31.599> things,<00:39:31.760> but<00:39:32.079> also,<00:39:32.480> you way of looking at things, but also, you way of looking at things, but also, you know,<00:39:32.800> what<00:39:32.960> metrics<00:39:33.599> what<00:39:33.839> metrics<00:39:34.400> exist know, what metrics what metrics exist know, what metrics what metrics exist for<00:39:36.079> our<00:39:36.320> students<00:39:36.480> who<00:39:36.640> are<00:39:36.800> not<00:39:36.960> taking<00:39:37.200> AP for our students who are not taking AP for our students who are not taking AP classes,<00:39:37.839> they're<00:39:38.160> not<00:39:38.320> taking<00:39:38.560> those<00:39:38.800> exams. classes, they’re not taking those exams. classes, they’re not taking those exams. So<00:39:39.440> what<00:39:39.920> you<00:39:40.079> know<00:39:40.160> what<00:39:40.320> do<00:39:40.400> we<00:39:40.560> have<00:39:40.640> that<00:39:40.880> we So what you know what do we have that we So what you know what do we have that we can<00:39:41.119> look<00:39:41.280> at<00:39:41.599> for<00:39:41.920> their<00:39:42.160> performance? can look at for their performance? can look at for their performance? I<00:39:44.240> I<00:39:44.480> know<00:39:44.640> we<00:39:44.800> said<00:39:45.040> we<00:39:45.280> were<00:39:45.440> going<00:39:45.760> to<00:39:46.400> uh I I know we said we were going to uh I I know we said we were going to uh come<00:39:46.960> back<00:39:47.200> to<00:39:47.440> this,<00:39:47.680> but<00:39:48.000> as<00:39:48.320> we've<00:39:48.720> been come back to this, but as we’ve been come back to this, but as we’ve been discussing<00:39:49.359> this,<00:39:49.680> I've<00:39:49.920> been<00:39:50.079> looking<00:39:50.240> at discussing this, I’ve been looking at discussing this, I’ve been looking at the<00:39:50.640> sort<00:39:50.880> of<00:39:51.040> focus<00:39:51.599> areas<00:39:52.320> and<00:39:53.359> a<00:39:53.599> lot<00:39:53.680> of<00:39:53.839> the the sort of focus areas and a lot of the the sort of focus areas and a lot of the comments<00:39:54.400> that<00:39:54.640> we've<00:39:54.960> made<00:39:55.359> sort<00:39:55.599> of<00:39:55.760> align comments that we’ve made sort of align comments that we’ve made sort of align to<00:39:57.520> one<00:39:57.760> or<00:39:58.000> two<00:39:58.240> of<00:39:58.400> these,<00:39:59.280> you<00:39:59.359> know.<00:39:59.599> So,<00:39:59.680> I to one or two of these, you know. So, I to one or two of these, you know. So, I think<00:40:00.079> in<00:40:00.800> in<00:40:01.280> revising<00:40:01.760> the<00:40:02.000> goals<00:40:02.560> with<00:40:02.800> the

40:02 think in in revising the goals with the think in in revising the goals with the comments<00:40:03.359> we've<00:40:03.680> made,<00:40:03.920> it<00:40:04.079> might<00:40:04.480> make<00:40:04.800> sense comments we’ve made, it might make sense comments we’ve made, it might make sense to<00:40:05.760> to<00:40:06.160> look<00:40:06.320> at<00:40:06.480> some<00:40:06.720> of<00:40:06.800> the<00:40:06.960> focus<00:40:07.280> areas. to to look at some of the focus areas. to to look at some of the focus areas. you<00:40:07.839> know,<00:40:07.920> there's<00:40:08.160> one<00:40:08.320> for<00:40:08.640> assessment, you know, there’s one for assessment, you know, there’s one for assessment, there’s<00:40:09.440> one<00:40:09.680> for<00:40:09.839> data<00:40:10.240> informed<00:40:10.720> decision there’s one for data informed decision there’s one for data informed decision making,<00:40:11.520> and making, and making, and » probably<00:40:13.359> not<00:40:13.520> a<00:40:13.680> bad<00:40:13.839> idea<00:40:14.160> because<00:40:14.800> um<00:40:15.680> I<00:40:15.920> can » probably not a bad idea because um I can » probably not a bad idea because um I can just<00:40:16.240> I<00:40:16.640> can<00:40:16.720> just<00:40:16.880> tag<00:40:17.119> them<00:40:17.200> on<00:40:17.359> the<00:40:17.520> bottom just I can just tag them on the bottom just I can just tag them on the bottom and<00:40:17.760> just<00:40:17.920> say,<00:40:18.079> you<00:40:18.240> know, » yeah. » yeah. » Yeah.<00:40:22.960> And<00:40:23.280> and<00:40:23.520> then<00:40:23.680> like<00:40:23.920> as<00:40:24.160> you're<00:40:24.400> making » Yeah. And and then like as you’re making » Yeah. And and then like as you’re making the<00:40:25.119> these<00:40:25.520> revisions,<00:40:26.720> include<00:40:27.200> specific the these revisions, include specific the these revisions, include specific languages<00:40:28.320> if languages if languages if » Well,<00:40:30.000> there's<00:40:30.160> one<00:40:30.400> E<00:40:30.800> is » Well, there’s one E is » Well, there’s one E is » Yeah.<00:40:32.079> One<00:40:32.320> E<00:40:32.880> and<00:40:33.200> one<00:40:33.599> C.<00:40:34.640> one<00:40:34.880> C<00:40:35.119> for » Yeah. One E and one C. one C for » Yeah. One E and one C. one C for assessment,<00:40:36.320> you<00:40:36.480> know,<00:40:36.720> but<00:40:37.359> and<00:40:37.599> then assessment, you know, but and then assessment, you know, but and then there’s<00:40:37.920> one<00:40:38.079> F<00:40:38.240> for<00:40:38.480> student<00:40:38.720> learning,<00:40:39.040> but there’s one F for student learning, but there’s one F for student learning, but it’s<00:40:39.440> very<00:40:40.000> sort<00:40:40.240> of » Yeah. And I think whatever whichever » Yeah. And I think whatever whichever ones<00:40:48.480> we're<00:40:48.800> all<00:40:48.960> sort<00:40:49.119> of<00:40:49.280> making<00:40:49.440> the<00:40:49.680> same

40:49 ones we’re all sort of making the same ones we’re all sort of making the same comments<00:40:50.240> that<00:40:50.480> that<00:40:50.800> align<00:40:51.200> with<00:40:51.440> those comments that that align with those comments that that align with those specific<00:40:52.320> focus<00:40:52.640> areas.<00:40:53.119> So, specific focus areas. So, specific focus areas. So, » that’s<00:40:54.240> helpful. » that’s helpful. » that’s helpful. » So,<00:40:55.680> I<00:40:55.920> would<00:40:56.000> say<00:40:56.319> any,<00:40:56.640> you<00:40:56.720> know,<00:40:56.960> maybe » So, I would say any, you know, maybe » So, I would say any, you know, maybe » in<00:40:59.440> one<00:40:59.680> C.<00:41:00.000> Yeah.<00:41:00.400> Assessment<00:41:00.960> and<00:41:01.599> data. » in one C. Yeah. Assessment and data. » in one C. Yeah. Assessment and data. Those<00:41:02.720> were<00:41:02.880> the<00:41:03.040> ones<00:41:03.200> I<00:41:03.359> was. Those were the ones I was. Those were the ones I was. » Yeah,<00:41:04.480> that<00:41:04.640> makes<00:41:04.800> sense.<00:41:05.920> We<00:41:06.079> agree<00:41:06.319> with » Yeah, that makes sense. We agree with » Yeah, that makes sense. We agree with that. that. that. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Good<00:41:08.160> idea.<00:41:08.640> Great.<00:41:09.040> You<00:41:09.200> know<00:41:10.640> what's<00:41:10.800> going » Good idea. Great. You know what’s going » Good idea. Great. You know what’s going on. on. on. » So,<00:41:11.520> is<00:41:11.599> the<00:41:11.760> idea<00:41:11.920> that<00:41:12.160> maybe<00:41:12.400> you<00:41:12.560> could » So, is the idea that maybe you could » So, is the idea that maybe you could back back back » Yes.<00:41:13.839> I'll<00:41:14.000> have<00:41:14.160> to » Yes. I’ll have to » Yes. I’ll have to » Yeah.<00:41:16.079> Um

41:21 » Yeah. The good thing is is Yes. I think » Yeah. The good thing is is Yes. I think I<00:41:21.680> think<00:41:21.760> if<00:41:21.920> I<00:41:22.079> incorporate<00:41:22.560> pretty<00:41:22.800> much I think if I incorporate pretty much I think if I incorporate pretty much everything<00:41:23.200> we<00:41:23.359> talked<00:41:23.599> about,<00:41:23.839> it'll<00:41:24.160> align everything we talked about, it’ll align everything we talked about, it’ll align with<00:41:24.560> those. with those. with those. » Yep.<00:41:26.319> Great.<00:41:26.960> Um<00:41:27.760> and » Yep. Great. Um and » Yep. Great. Um and thinking<00:41:30.000> back

41:37 to to my<00:41:37.200> school my school my school so<00:41:39.359> of<00:41:39.440> course<00:41:39.680> that's<00:41:39.839> something<00:41:40.079> they<00:41:40.240> kind so of course that’s something they kind so of course that’s something they kind of<00:41:40.560> saw<00:41:40.880> once<00:41:41.839> in<00:41:42.319> a<00:41:42.880> superintendent<00:41:43.440> I<00:41:43.599> work of saw once in a superintendent I work of saw once in a superintendent I work with<00:41:43.920> in<00:41:44.160> the<00:41:44.319> past<00:41:45.359> used<00:41:45.599> to<00:41:46.000> was<00:41:46.240> very<00:41:46.400> good with in the past used to was very good with in the past used to was very good at<00:41:46.800> communicating<00:41:47.680> um<00:41:48.160> and<00:41:48.400> used<00:41:48.640> to<00:41:49.440> provide at communicating um and used to provide at communicating um and used to provide um<00:41:51.040> at<00:41:51.200> each<00:41:51.359> of<00:41:51.520> our<00:41:51.680> school<00:41:51.839> committee um at each of our school committee um at each of our school committee meetings<00:41:53.280> most<00:41:53.520> of<00:41:53.520> the<00:41:53.760> stuff<00:41:54.000> was<00:41:54.160> in meetings most of the stuff was in meetings most of the stuff was in writing<00:41:54.640> like<00:41:54.800> the<00:41:55.040> difference<00:41:55.200> in<00:41:55.440> district writing like the difference in district writing like the difference in district update<00:41:56.160> inviting<00:41:56.880> and<00:41:57.040> then<00:41:57.200> would<00:41:57.440> have<00:41:57.599> that update inviting and then would have that update inviting and then would have that literally<00:41:58.160> a<00:41:58.400> thought<00:41:58.720> like<00:41:59.359> this<00:41:59.839> what<00:42:00.079> I literally a thought like this what I literally a thought like this what I just<00:42:00.400> gave<00:42:00.560> you just gave you just gave you this<00:42:03.920> along<00:42:04.160> the<00:42:04.400> way<00:42:04.640> that<00:42:04.880> your<00:42:05.760> goal<00:42:06.240> and this along the way that your goal and this along the way that your goal and indicator<00:42:06.880> so<00:42:07.040> it's<00:42:07.280> just<00:42:07.520> you<00:42:07.680> know<00:42:08.160> it<00:42:08.400> is indicator so it’s just you know it is indicator so it’s just you know it is something<00:42:08.720> to<00:42:08.960> think<00:42:09.119> about<00:42:09.280> because<00:42:09.440> then<00:42:09.599> we something to think about because then we something to think about because then we could<00:42:10.000> actually<00:42:10.160> at<00:42:10.319> the<00:42:10.480> end<00:42:10.560> of<00:42:10.560> the<00:42:10.720> year could actually at the end of the year could actually at the end of the year you<00:42:10.960> can<00:42:11.119> also

42:32 All right. And then the district All right. And then the district improvement<00:42:33.760> goal.<00:42:34.400> Um,<00:42:35.359> so<00:42:36.640> kind<00:42:36.880> of,<00:42:37.119> you improvement goal. Um, so kind of, you improvement goal. Um, so kind of, you know,<00:42:37.440> everything<00:42:37.680> ends<00:42:37.920> up<00:42:38.000> dvailing, know, everything ends up dvailing, know, everything ends up dvailing, right,<00:42:38.800> some<00:42:38.960> way<00:42:39.119> or<00:42:39.280> another,<00:42:39.440> right? right, some way or another, right? right, some way or another, right? Districtwide<00:42:40.800> instructional<00:42:41.119> learning Districtwide instructional learning Districtwide instructional learning work. work. work. Do<00:42:43.040> I<00:42:43.200> just<00:42:43.520> put<00:42:43.680> that<00:42:43.839> in<00:42:44.000> there?<00:42:44.240> Um,<00:42:45.040> so Do I just put that in there? Um, so Do I just put that in there? Um, so we’re<00:42:46.240> really<00:42:46.560> focusing<00:42:47.200> on<00:42:47.520> the<00:42:47.760> principles we’re really focusing on the principles we’re really focusing on the principles needing<00:42:48.400> to<00:42:48.560> be<00:42:48.640> the<00:42:48.800> instructional<00:42:49.359> leaders needing to be the instructional leaders needing to be the instructional leaders of<00:42:49.760> their<00:42:50.000> school.<00:42:50.240> Going<00:42:50.319> to<00:42:50.400> be<00:42:50.560> a<00:42:50.720> lot of their school. Going to be a lot of their school. Going to be a lot background.<00:42:52.160> A<00:42:52.319> lot<00:42:52.400> of<00:42:52.560> times<00:42:52.720> I'm<00:42:52.880> just background. A lot of times I’m just background. A lot of times I’m just like,<00:42:53.200> "Oh,<00:42:53.440> I'm<00:42:53.599> here.<00:42:53.839> I'm<00:42:54.079> trying<00:42:54.160> to like, “Oh, I’m here. I’m trying to like, “Oh, I’m here. I’m trying to manage<00:42:54.560> a<00:42:54.800> day<00:42:54.960> and<00:42:55.520> dushing manage a day and dushing manage a day and dushing in<00:42:57.920> this<00:42:58.240> goes<00:42:58.480> back<00:42:58.640> to<00:42:58.880> student in this goes back to student in this goes back to student achievement.<00:42:59.599> It<00:42:59.760> goes<00:42:59.920> back<00:43:00.079> to<00:43:00.480> how<00:43:00.640> we<00:43:00.800> grow achievement. It goes back to how we grow achievement. It goes back to how we grow and<00:43:01.280> how<00:43:01.440> we<00:43:01.760> become<00:43:02.079> better<00:43:02.400> schools<00:43:02.720> with and how we become better schools with and how we become better schools with more<00:43:03.200> rigor.<00:43:03.760> Um,<00:43:04.079> and<00:43:04.160> is<00:43:04.400> really<00:43:04.560> pushing more rigor. Um, and is really pushing more rigor. Um, and is really pushing the<00:43:05.040> principles<00:43:05.440> to<00:43:05.599> be<00:43:05.760> the<00:43:05.920> instructional the principles to be the instructional the principles to be the instructional leader<00:43:06.720> of<00:43:06.800> the<00:43:06.960> school.<00:43:07.280> So,<00:43:08.000> some<00:43:08.160> of<00:43:08.240> the leader of the school. So, some of the leader of the school. So, some of the principles<00:43:08.800> are<00:43:08.960> doing<00:43:09.200> better<00:43:09.440> than<00:43:09.599> others principles are doing better than others principles are doing better than others and<00:43:10.079> some<00:43:10.560> might<00:43:10.800> really<00:43:11.040> dig<00:43:11.359> into<00:43:11.599> the and some might really dig into the and some might really dig into the data.”<00:43:12.240> So<00:43:13.440> that<00:43:14.000> so<00:43:14.319> we'll<00:43:15.200> you<00:43:15.359> know<00:43:15.599> just<00:43:16.160> go data.” So that so we’ll you know just go data.” So that so we’ll you know just go off<00:43:16.640> today.<00:43:17.040> So<00:43:17.680> in<00:43:17.920> that<00:43:18.079> regard,<00:43:18.640> I<00:43:19.119> um

43:20 off today. So in that regard, I um off today. So in that regard, I um instructional<00:43:20.800> learning<00:43:21.119> walks<00:43:21.359> is instructional learning walks is instructional learning walks is something<00:43:21.760> that<00:43:22.000> a<00:43:22.160> lot<00:43:22.240> of<00:43:22.400> districts<00:43:22.880> do<00:43:23.280> and something that a lot of districts do and something that a lot of districts do and what<00:43:23.920> what<00:43:24.160> we<00:43:24.480> what<00:43:24.720> we<00:43:24.880> do<00:43:25.040> is<00:43:25.440> um<00:43:25.599> so what what we what we do is um so what what we what we do is um so basically<00:43:26.640> each<00:43:26.960> principle<00:43:27.359> would<00:43:27.599> schedule basically each principle would schedule basically each principle would schedule time<00:43:28.240> at<00:43:29.119> their<00:43:29.280> other<00:43:29.520> their<00:43:29.760> colleagues time at their other their colleagues time at their other their colleagues buildings<00:43:30.480> throughout<00:43:30.720> the<00:43:30.800> year<00:43:31.040> at<00:43:31.040> least buildings throughout the year at least buildings throughout the year at least two<00:43:31.520> times<00:43:31.760> but<00:43:32.079> you<00:43:32.160> know<00:43:32.480> we<00:43:32.640> had<00:43:32.880> ongoing two times but you know we had ongoing two times but you know we had ongoing discussions<00:43:33.839> but<00:43:34.319> schedule<00:43:34.640> their<00:43:34.880> meetings discussions but schedule their meetings discussions but schedule their meetings and<00:43:35.359> then<00:43:35.520> they<00:43:35.680> would<00:43:35.839> go<00:43:36.400> and<00:43:36.640> they<00:43:36.880> they<00:43:37.280> go and then they would go and they they go and then they would go and they they go to<00:43:37.520> the<00:43:37.680> other<00:43:37.839> school<00:43:38.079> and<00:43:38.319> they<00:43:38.480> look<00:43:38.640> for to the other school and they look for to the other school and they look for specific<00:43:40.079> areas<00:43:40.560> of<00:43:40.800> instructoral specific areas of instructoral specific areas of instructoral leadership<00:43:43.839> instructoral<00:43:44.319> strategies leadership instructoral strategies leadership instructoral strategies that’s<00:43:45.119> meant<00:43:45.920> that<00:43:46.079> they<00:43:46.240> would<00:43:46.319> go that’s meant that they would go that’s meant that they would go to<00:43:47.599> evidence<00:43:48.000> those<00:43:48.240> in<00:43:48.400> the<00:43:48.480> other<00:43:48.720> schools to evidence those in the other schools to evidence those in the other schools and<00:43:49.359> then<00:43:49.520> the<00:43:49.760> thought<00:43:49.920> process<00:43:50.319> being<00:43:50.560> like and then the thought process being like and then the thought process being like hey<00:43:51.200> that's<00:43:51.520> going hey that’s going hey that’s going you<00:43:53.760> know<00:43:53.920> I'm<00:43:54.240> lover<00:43:54.560> school<00:43:54.960> can<00:43:55.119> I<00:43:55.200> detail you know I’m lover school can I detail you know I’m lover school can I detail what<00:43:55.760> I'm<00:43:55.920> doing<00:43:56.240> here<00:43:57.119> help<00:43:57.359> the<00:43:57.520> transition what I’m doing here help the transition what I’m doing here help the transition and<00:43:58.319> so<00:43:58.480> on<00:43:59.280> so<00:43:59.440> that's<00:43:59.680> kind<00:43:59.839> of<00:44:00.000> that<00:44:00.240> was<00:44:00.319> the and so on so that’s kind of that was the and so on so that’s kind of that was the that’s<00:44:00.800> the<00:44:00.960> backdrop<00:44:01.599> behind<00:44:01.839> the<00:44:02.000> learning that’s the backdrop behind the learning that’s the backdrop behind the learning work<00:44:02.480> so<00:44:03.200> realistically<00:44:04.000> looking<00:44:04.480> make<00:44:04.720> sure work so realistically looking make sure work so realistically looking make sure that<00:44:05.200> the<00:44:05.760> emphasis<00:44:06.319> within<00:44:06.720> individual

44:07 that the emphasis within individual that the emphasis within individual buildings<00:44:08.079> are<00:44:08.240> meaningful<00:44:08.640> and<00:44:08.800> align<00:44:09.040> with buildings are meaningful and align with buildings are meaningful and align with the<00:44:09.359> district<00:44:09.680> practices<00:44:10.640> and<00:44:10.880> that<00:44:11.119> all<00:44:11.359> all the district practices and that all all the district practices and that all all students<00:44:12.000> instructional<00:44:12.400> needs<00:44:12.560> are<00:44:12.720> being students instructional needs are being students instructional needs are being met<00:44:13.119> I<00:44:13.280> think<00:44:13.839> the<00:44:14.079> other<00:44:14.319> piece<00:44:14.480> is<00:44:14.720> there's met I think the other piece is there’s met I think the other piece is there’s five<00:44:15.200> buildings<00:44:16.160> And<00:44:16.400> I<00:44:16.800> I<00:44:17.200> hate<00:44:17.520> hate<00:44:17.839> hate five buildings And I I hate hate hate five buildings And I I hate hate hate when<00:44:18.560> districts<00:44:19.040> operate<00:44:19.359> in<00:44:19.520> silos<00:44:20.000> and<00:44:20.160> this when districts operate in silos and this when districts operate in silos and this happens<00:44:20.880> a<00:44:21.200> lot.<00:44:21.760> Just<00:44:22.400> principles<00:44:22.880> get<00:44:23.040> very happens a lot. Just principles get very happens a lot. Just principles get very myopic<00:44:23.760> about<00:44:24.000> their<00:44:24.240> building<00:44:24.480> and<00:44:24.720> they<00:44:25.440> it myopic about their building and they it myopic about their building and they it takes<00:44:25.839> a<00:44:26.000> while<00:44:26.160> to<00:44:26.319> kind<00:44:26.400> of<00:44:26.560> say<00:44:26.960> not<00:44:27.200> just takes a while to kind of say not just takes a while to kind of say not just operating<00:44:27.839> by<00:44:28.000> yourself<00:44:28.319> in<00:44:28.480> your<00:44:28.640> own operating by yourself in your own operating by yourself in your own building.<00:44:29.040> We're<00:44:29.280> we're<00:44:29.520> going<00:44:29.599> to<00:44:29.760> have building. We’re we’re going to have building. We’re we’re going to have conversations.<00:44:30.480> We're<00:44:30.800> have<00:44:30.960> common<00:44:32.000> have conversations. We’re have common have conversations. We’re have common have assessments<00:44:33.359> that<00:44:33.599> make<00:44:33.760> sense<00:44:34.240> at<00:44:34.319> at<00:44:34.560> both assessments that make sense at at both assessments that make sense at at both schools.<00:44:35.040> So<00:44:35.280> like<00:44:35.839> lover<00:44:36.240> and<00:44:36.480> brown schools. So like lover and brown schools. So like lover and brown shouldn’t<00:44:38.000> be<00:44:38.240> operating<00:44:38.880> totally<00:44:39.359> separate shouldn’t be operating totally separate shouldn’t be operating totally separate like<00:44:40.480> obviously<00:44:40.800> there's<00:44:41.119> certain<00:44:41.359> things<00:44:41.440> in like obviously there’s certain things in like obviously there’s certain things in their<00:44:41.760> build<00:44:42.000> they<00:44:42.160> have<00:44:42.240> to<00:44:42.400> be<00:44:42.640> you<00:44:42.720> know their build they have to be you know their build they have to be you know marries<00:44:43.440> a<00:44:43.599> different<00:44:43.760> person. marries a different person. marries a different person. But<00:44:46.000> the<00:44:46.240> common<00:44:46.480> language<00:44:46.880> should<00:44:47.040> be<00:44:47.440> common But the common language should be common But the common language should be common like<00:44:47.920> if<00:44:48.160> we're<00:44:48.319> doing<00:44:48.480> something<00:44:48.800> first like if we’re doing something first like if we’re doing something first grade<00:44:49.280> there,<00:44:49.839> it<00:44:50.000> should<00:44:50.160> be<00:44:50.319> similar<00:44:50.880> first grade there, it should be similar first grade there, it should be similar first grade<00:44:51.280> there<00:44:51.520> and<00:44:51.599> so<00:44:51.760> on<00:44:51.920> and<00:44:52.000> so<00:44:52.160> forth.<00:44:52.880> That

44:53 grade there and so on and so forth. That grade there and so on and so forth. That takes<00:44:53.359> a<00:44:53.520> while<00:44:53.599> to<00:44:53.760> get<00:44:53.920> to.<00:44:54.160> But<00:44:54.240> I<00:44:54.400> think takes a while to get to. But I think takes a while to get to. But I think even<00:44:54.800> from<00:44:54.960> last<00:44:55.200> year<00:44:55.359> to<00:44:55.520> this<00:44:55.680> year,<00:44:55.839> we've even from last year to this year, we’ve even from last year to this year, we’ve made<00:44:56.319> some<00:44:56.560> progress<00:44:56.960> in<00:44:57.119> that<00:44:57.440> that<00:44:57.680> in<00:44:57.839> that made some progress in that that in that made some progress in that that in that area.<00:44:58.480> But<00:44:58.960> the<00:44:59.040> learning<00:44:59.359> walks<00:44:59.760> is<00:44:59.920> kind<00:45:00.000> of area. But the learning walks is kind of area. But the learning walks is kind of another<00:45:00.720> conduit<00:45:01.200> to<00:45:01.359> making<00:45:01.680> sure<00:45:01.839> those another conduit to making sure those another conduit to making sure those happen<00:45:02.560> when<00:45:02.880> we're<00:45:03.119> having<00:45:03.440> really<00:45:04.480> pointed happen when we’re having really pointed happen when we’re having really pointed conversations conversations conversations uh<00:45:07.440> time<00:45:07.680> in<00:45:07.839> each<00:45:08.000> other's<00:45:08.240> buildings<00:45:08.800> coming uh time in each other’s buildings coming uh time in each other’s buildings coming back<00:45:09.119> to<00:45:09.200> our<00:45:09.359> admin<00:45:10.079> having<00:45:10.400> conversation. back to our admin having conversation. back to our admin having conversation. What<00:45:11.200> have<00:45:11.359> you<00:45:11.440> seen?<00:45:11.680> What<00:45:12.079> what<00:45:12.560> was<00:45:12.880> what What have you seen? What what was what What have you seen? What what was what was<00:45:13.280> good?<00:45:13.760> share<00:45:14.000> what<00:45:14.240> you<00:45:14.400> saw<00:45:14.640> from was good? share what you saw from was good? share what you saw from practice,<00:45:15.440> hopefully<00:45:16.400> how<00:45:16.560> can<00:45:16.720> we<00:45:17.680> see<00:45:17.920> that practice, hopefully how can we see that practice, hopefully how can we see that when<00:45:18.240> I<00:45:18.400> go<00:45:18.480> to<00:45:18.640> the<00:45:18.800> building<00:45:19.760> that when I go to the building that when I go to the building that replicate<00:45:21.839> that,<00:45:22.079> bring<00:45:22.240> that<00:45:22.400> back<00:45:22.480> in<00:45:22.640> the replicate that, bring that back in the replicate that, bring that back in the building.<00:45:23.040> So<00:45:23.200> that's<00:45:23.680> kind<00:45:23.920> of<00:45:24.000> where<00:45:24.240> this building. So that’s kind of where this building. So that’s kind of where this all<00:45:24.880> um<00:45:25.680> came<00:45:25.920> from.<00:45:26.160> So,<00:45:26.319> it's<00:45:26.560> really<00:45:26.720> all all um came from. So, it’s really all all um came from. So, it’s really all about<00:45:27.119> being<00:45:27.760> having<00:45:28.079> cohesive about being having cohesive about being having cohesive expectations,<00:45:29.760> make<00:45:29.920> sure<00:45:30.079> it's expectations, make sure it’s expectations, make sure it’s collaboration,<00:45:31.760> um,<00:45:32.400> and<00:45:32.720> making<00:45:33.040> sure<00:45:33.200> that collaboration, um, and making sure that collaboration, um, and making sure that um,<00:45:34.480> we're<00:45:35.119> uh,<00:45:35.599> having<00:45:36.000> instructional um, we’re uh, having instructional um, we’re uh, having instructional practice,<00:45:36.880> the<00:45:37.040> research<00:45:37.359> base,<00:45:38.079> you<00:45:38.240> know,

45:38 practice, the research base, you know, practice, the research base, you know, and<00:45:38.720> making<00:45:38.960> sure<00:45:40.000> detail<00:45:41.440> time<00:45:41.680> is and making sure detail time is and making sure detail time is transition<00:45:42.960> grades<00:45:43.280> and<00:45:43.440> goals<00:45:44.560> become<00:45:44.880> more transition grades and goals become more transition grades and goals become more sy.<00:45:46.000> Um,<00:45:46.640> again,<00:45:47.200> I<00:45:47.440> always<00:45:47.760> some<00:45:48.079> the sy. Um, again, I always some the sy. Um, again, I always some the measuring<00:45:48.800> of<00:45:48.880> goals<00:45:49.200> I<00:45:49.440> always<00:45:49.680> struggle measuring of goals I always struggle measuring of goals I always struggle with,<00:45:50.000> but<00:45:50.240> it's<00:45:50.319> kind<00:45:50.480> of,<00:45:50.640> you<00:45:50.800> know,<00:45:50.960> it's with, but it’s kind of, you know, it’s with, but it’s kind of, you know, it’s easy<00:45:51.440> when<00:45:51.599> it's<00:45:51.920> like,<00:45:52.400> you<00:45:52.560> know,<00:45:53.440> business. easy when it’s like, you know, business. easy when it’s like, you know, business. Yeah.<00:45:55.119> Um<00:45:55.359> it's<00:45:55.520> it's<00:45:55.760> far<00:45:56.160> it's<00:45:56.400> kind<00:45:56.480> of<00:45:56.720> not Yeah. Um it’s it’s far it’s kind of not Yeah. Um it’s it’s far it’s kind of not always<00:45:57.440> as<00:45:57.680> tangible.<00:45:58.160> So<00:45:58.319> I<00:45:59.040> I<00:45:59.040> I<00:45:59.359> do<00:45:59.680> get always as tangible. So I I I do get always as tangible. So I I I do get sometimes<00:46:00.400> still<00:46:00.960> um<00:46:01.280> so<00:46:01.440> you<00:46:01.599> probably<00:46:01.760> have sometimes still um so you probably have sometimes still um so you probably have the<00:46:02.000> same<00:46:02.160> feedback<00:46:02.480> here<00:46:02.720> where<00:46:02.880> you<00:46:02.960> know the same feedback here where you know the same feedback here where you know we’re<00:46:03.200> having<00:46:03.839> meaning<00:46:04.480> conversations<00:46:05.760> um we’re having meaning conversations um we’re having meaning conversations um and<00:46:07.599> one<00:46:07.839> specific<00:46:08.240> piece<00:46:09.200> my<00:46:09.440> evaluation and one specific piece my evaluation and one specific piece my evaluation principles<00:46:10.560> I<00:46:10.720> have<00:46:10.960> very<00:46:11.280> very<00:46:11.520> specific principles I have very very specific principles I have very very specific conversations<00:46:12.560> with<00:46:12.800> them<00:46:13.359> and<00:46:13.920> evaluative conversations with them and evaluative conversations with them and evaluative things<00:46:16.480> around<00:46:17.280> were<00:46:17.520> you things around were you things around were you in<00:46:19.359> the<00:46:19.520> building?<00:46:20.319> If<00:46:20.480> so,<00:46:20.800> yes,<00:46:21.280> how<00:46:21.599> and in the building? If so, yes, how and in the building? If so, yes, how and how.<00:46:22.480> And<00:46:22.800> if<00:46:23.040> you<00:46:23.119> need<00:46:23.359> scenarios<00:46:23.920> of

46:24 how. And if you need scenarios of how. And if you need scenarios of product<00:46:24.800> development,<00:46:25.359> where<00:46:25.599> are<00:46:25.839> they<00:46:26.079> and product development, where are they and product development, where are they and what<00:46:26.880> needs<00:46:27.119> to<00:46:27.200> be<00:46:27.440> different?<00:46:27.760> that<00:46:28.000> kind<00:46:28.079> of what needs to be different? that kind of what needs to be different? that kind of comes<00:46:28.319> out<00:46:28.480> in<00:46:28.560> the<00:46:28.720> evaluation<00:46:29.359> studies<00:46:30.240> kind comes out in the evaluation studies kind comes out in the evaluation studies kind of<00:46:30.560> the<00:46:30.720> measurement<00:46:31.520> how<00:46:31.680> I<00:46:31.839> measure<00:46:32.160> the of the measurement how I measure the of the measurement how I measure the goal.<00:46:32.800> Um<00:46:34.240> and<00:46:34.400> then<00:46:34.880> uh goal. Um and then uh goal. Um and then uh I<00:46:36.720> mean<00:46:36.800> the<00:46:36.960> evidence<00:46:37.359> you<00:46:37.520> know<00:46:37.760> being<00:46:38.000> the I mean the evidence you know being the I mean the evidence you know being the schedule<00:46:38.640> knowing<00:46:38.880> walks<00:46:39.200> sharing<00:46:39.440> their schedule knowing walks sharing their schedule knowing walks sharing their experiences<00:46:40.640> ongoing<00:46:41.359> um<00:46:42.400> ways<00:46:42.640> to<00:46:42.800> enhance experiences ongoing um ways to enhance experiences ongoing um ways to enhance instructional<00:46:43.760> practices<00:46:44.720> provide<00:46:45.040> evidence instructional practices provide evidence instructional practices provide evidence um<00:46:46.079> and<00:46:46.240> I<00:46:46.400> can<00:46:46.560> get<00:46:46.720> much<00:46:46.960> specific

46:55 out and um I do I do uh you know goal out and um I do I do uh you know goal setting<00:46:55.599> meetings<00:46:55.920> like<00:46:56.000> I<00:46:56.160> did<00:46:56.319> all<00:46:56.480> the setting meetings like I did all the setting meetings like I did all the principal<00:46:56.880> I<00:46:57.200> married<00:46:57.440> this<00:46:57.680> afternoon<00:46:58.640> all principal I married this afternoon all principal I married this afternoon all principles<00:46:59.280> to<00:46:59.359> set<00:46:59.520> their<00:46:59.760> goals<00:47:00.079> and<00:47:00.319> then<00:47:00.480> I principles to set their goals and then I principles to set their goals and then I meet<00:47:00.960> them<00:47:01.040> then<00:47:01.359> mid<00:47:01.599> year.<00:47:02.000> Yeah,<00:47:02.400> we<00:47:02.560> have<00:47:02.880> a meet them then mid year. Yeah, we have a meet them then mid year. Yeah, we have a lot<00:47:03.119> of<00:47:03.280> conversations<00:47:03.920> and<00:47:04.800> discussions<00:47:05.440> but lot of conversations and discussions but lot of conversations and discussions but I<00:47:05.920> do<00:47:06.079> a<00:47:06.240> specific<00:47:06.640> hey<00:47:06.800> how<00:47:06.880> do<00:47:07.040> you<00:47:07.119> do<00:47:07.599> goals I do a specific hey how do you do goals I do a specific hey how do you do goals like<00:47:08.640> for<00:47:08.800> me<00:47:08.960> I<00:47:09.119> want<00:47:09.200> to<00:47:09.599> do<00:47:09.760> that<00:47:10.079> school like for me I want to do that school like for me I want to do that school community<00:47:10.640> meeting community meeting community meeting or<00:47:12.880> whatever<00:47:13.359> I<00:47:13.520> do<00:47:13.760> at<00:47:13.839> least<00:47:14.240> that<00:47:15.040> meet or whatever I do at least that meet or whatever I do at least that meet there<00:47:15.680> very<00:47:15.920> specific<00:47:16.319> sit<00:47:16.560> down<00:47:17.440> the<00:47:17.599> goals there very specific sit down the goals there very specific sit down the goals let’s<00:47:18.400> go<00:47:18.560> along<00:47:19.200> those<00:47:20.000> so<00:47:21.280> and<00:47:21.440> then let’s go along those so and then let’s go along those so and then evaluate<00:47:22.960> them

47:28 where the areas of strength will be where the areas of strength will be that’s<00:47:28.960> kind<00:47:29.119> of<00:47:29.200> overarching<00:47:29.760> goal

47:37 start backwards. start backwards. » Sure.<00:47:39.108> [laughter] » Sure. [laughter] » Sure. [laughter] » Um,<00:47:40.240> okay.<00:47:40.640> So,<00:47:41.200> um,<00:47:42.000> I » Um, okay. So, um, I » Um, okay. So, um, I think<00:47:45.119> that<00:47:45.440> this<00:47:45.760> is<00:47:46.240> a think that this is a think that this is a bigger<00:47:48.960> goal<00:47:49.200> than<00:47:49.359> what<00:47:49.520> you've<00:47:49.760> described bigger goal than what you’ve described bigger goal than what you’ve described here<00:47:50.880> necessarily,<00:47:51.599> right?<00:47:51.839> So, here necessarily, right? So, here necessarily, right? So, districtwide<00:47:52.480> instructional<00:47:52.960> learning districtwide instructional learning districtwide instructional learning watch<00:47:53.440> to<00:47:53.680> me<00:47:54.400> is<00:47:54.800> a<00:47:55.280> tactic watch to me is a tactic watch to me is a tactic um<00:47:57.040> versus<00:47:57.359> a<00:47:57.599> strategic<00:47:58.000> goal,<00:47:58.800> right?<00:47:59.119> So um versus a strategic goal, right? So um versus a strategic goal, right? So I’m<00:48:00.079> thinking<00:48:01.040> that<00:48:01.359> and<00:48:01.760> this<00:48:02.000> makes<00:48:02.160> sense I’m thinking that and this makes sense I’m thinking that and this makes sense because<00:48:02.960> it<00:48:03.920> did<00:48:04.160> hit<00:48:04.400> home<00:48:04.560> with<00:48:04.720> me<00:48:04.880> just<00:48:05.040> as because it did hit home with me just as because it did hit home with me just as I<00:48:05.359> was<00:48:05.440> reading<00:48:05.680> this<00:48:06.000> that<00:48:06.240> this<00:48:06.560> idea<00:48:06.800> of I was reading this that this idea of I was reading this that this idea of well<00:48:08.000> I<00:48:08.160> don't<00:48:08.240> know<00:48:08.400> power<00:48:08.560> is<00:48:08.640> the<00:48:08.800> right well I don’t know power is the right well I don’t know power is the right word<00:48:09.680> empowering<00:48:10.480> and<00:48:10.960> setting<00:48:11.280> the word empowering and setting the word empowering and setting the expectation<00:48:11.839> that<00:48:12.079> the<00:48:12.319> building<00:48:12.640> principles expectation that the building principles expectation that the building principles are<00:48:13.839> going<00:48:14.079> to<00:48:15.040> um<00:48:15.200> be<00:48:15.359> the<00:48:15.599> building<00:48:15.920> leaders are going to um be the building leaders are going to um be the building leaders and<00:48:17.200> and<00:48:17.920> manage<00:48:18.800> um<00:48:19.200> the<00:48:19.599> instructional<00:48:20.319> or and and manage um the instructional or and and manage um the instructional or and<00:48:20.720> instructional<00:48:21.119> leaders<00:48:21.440> in<00:48:21.680> their and instructional leaders in their and instructional leaders in their building<00:48:22.160> is<00:48:22.640> that<00:48:22.880> should<00:48:23.119> be<00:48:23.200> the<00:48:23.440> goal

48:24 building is that should be the goal building is that should be the goal » and<00:48:24.559> then<00:48:24.720> how<00:48:25.040> you<00:48:25.200> get<00:48:25.440> there<00:48:26.000> one<00:48:26.240> of<00:48:26.400> which » and then how you get there one of which » and then how you get there one of which is<00:48:26.960> learning<00:48:27.280> walks is learning walks is learning walks » right<00:48:28.480> but<00:48:28.640> I<00:48:28.880> think<00:48:28.960> it<00:48:29.200> could<00:48:29.359> be<00:48:29.760> more<00:48:30.000> than » right but I think it could be more than » right but I think it could be more than that.<00:48:30.480> So,<00:48:30.640> I'm<00:48:30.800> going<00:48:30.880> to<00:48:31.359> go<00:48:31.680> put<00:48:31.839> on<00:48:32.000> my,<00:48:32.400> you that. So, I’m going to go put on my, you that. So, I’m going to go put on my, you know,<00:48:32.640> I<00:48:32.800> had<00:48:32.960> to<00:48:33.119> put<00:48:33.200> on<00:48:33.440> before.<00:48:34.319> So,<00:48:35.040> one<00:48:35.280> of know, I had to put on before. So, one of know, I had to put on before. So, one of the<00:48:35.520> things<00:48:35.680> that<00:48:35.920> we<00:48:36.160> used<00:48:36.319> to<00:48:36.480> have<00:48:36.640> years the things that we used to have years the things that we used to have years ago<00:48:37.040> were<00:48:37.280> curriculum<00:48:37.680> directors. ago were curriculum directors. ago were curriculum directors. Curriculum<00:48:38.559> directors<00:48:38.960> were<00:48:39.760> administrators Curriculum directors were administrators Curriculum directors were administrators that<00:48:40.960> were<00:48:41.440> licensed<00:48:42.160> and<00:48:42.559> were<00:48:42.800> responsible that were licensed and were responsible that were licensed and were responsible for<00:48:43.440> developing<00:48:43.839> curriculum,<00:48:44.400> implementing for developing curriculum, implementing for developing curriculum, implementing curriculum<00:48:46.000> and<00:48:46.720> um<00:48:47.280> observing<00:48:48.000> and<00:48:48.960> um curriculum and um observing and um curriculum and um observing and um managing<00:48:50.079> teachers<00:48:51.440> um<00:48:52.079> teachers.<00:48:52.559> So<00:48:52.800> they managing teachers um teachers. So they managing teachers um teachers. So they would<00:48:53.119> be<00:48:53.280> the<00:48:53.440> official<00:48:53.760> observers<00:48:54.160> and<00:48:54.319> they would be the official observers and they would be the official observers and they would<00:48:54.559> give<00:48:55.200> they<00:48:55.359> would<00:48:55.520> be<00:48:55.599> the<00:48:55.760> supervisors would give they would be the supervisors would give they would be the supervisors of<00:48:56.319> the<00:48:56.480> teachers<00:48:56.720> and<00:48:56.880> give<00:48:57.040> them<00:48:57.200> back of the teachers and give them back of the teachers and give them back information.<00:48:58.640> The<00:48:58.960> screen<00:48:59.359> directors<00:48:59.680> were information. The screen directors were information. The screen directors were eliminated<00:49:00.319> in<00:49:00.640> the<00:49:00.960> mid<00:49:01.359> 2000s<00:49:02.319> costs.<00:49:03.119> So<00:49:03.280> we eliminated in the mid 2000s costs. So we eliminated in the mid 2000s costs. So we went<00:49:03.599> to<00:49:03.760> this<00:49:04.160> lead<00:49:04.480> teacher<00:49:04.880> model<00:49:05.440> where<00:49:05.680> we went to this lead teacher model where we went to this lead teacher model where we have<00:49:05.920> lead<00:49:06.240> teachers<00:49:06.800> in<00:49:07.280> either<00:49:07.520> in<00:49:07.760> the have lead teachers in either in the have lead teachers in either in the buildings<00:49:08.160> in<00:49:08.400> grade<00:49:08.640> level<00:49:08.880> or<00:49:09.280> other

49:09 buildings in grade level or other buildings in grade level or other buildings<00:49:09.920> and<00:49:10.079> subject<00:49:10.400> level<00:49:11.200> that<00:49:11.599> are buildings and subject level that are buildings and subject level that are paid<00:49:12.000> a<00:49:12.160> stipend<00:49:13.040> to<00:49:13.520> to<00:49:13.920> provide paid a stipend to to provide paid a stipend to to provide instructional<00:49:14.880> leadership<00:49:15.520> within<00:49:15.920> the instructional leadership within the instructional leadership within the building<00:49:16.319> which<00:49:17.760> you<00:49:17.920> know<00:49:18.160> is<00:49:18.480> is<00:49:18.800> great<00:49:19.359> but building which you know is is great but building which you know is is great but they<00:49:19.760> don't<00:49:20.000> have<00:49:20.160> supervisory they don’t have supervisory they don’t have supervisory responsibilities.<00:49:21.680> So<00:49:21.839> they<00:49:22.079> can<00:49:22.319> they<00:49:22.640> can responsibilities. So they can they can responsibilities. So they can they can be<00:49:22.880> coaches<00:49:23.280> and<00:49:23.440> they<00:49:23.520> can<00:49:23.680> be<00:49:23.760> mentors<00:49:24.160> but be coaches and they can be mentors but be coaches and they can be mentors but they<00:49:24.480> don't<00:49:24.720> actually<00:49:25.920> supervise<00:49:26.480> teachers they don’t actually supervise teachers they don’t actually supervise teachers license<00:49:27.200> wise.<00:49:27.440> The<00:49:27.599> principles<00:49:28.079> do<00:49:28.720> right. license wise. The principles do right. license wise. The principles do right. So<00:49:29.119> they<00:49:29.280> are<00:49:29.440> the<00:49:29.599> instructional<00:49:30.160> leaders. So they are the instructional leaders. So they are the instructional leaders. So<00:49:31.040> I<00:49:31.280> think<00:49:31.440> that<00:49:32.079> I<00:49:32.400> feel<00:49:32.640> like<00:49:33.040> and<00:49:33.280> again So I think that I feel like and again So I think that I feel like and again I’m<00:49:33.760> just<00:49:33.839> a<00:49:34.400> I'm<00:49:34.720> just<00:49:34.880> a<00:49:35.680> you<00:49:35.920> know<00:49:36.480> on<00:49:36.720> the I’m just a I’m just a you know on the I’m just a I’m just a you know on the outside<00:49:37.200> I'm<00:49:37.440> chief<00:49:37.680> seats<00:49:38.400> feel<00:49:38.640> like<00:49:40.000> some outside I’m chief seats feel like some outside I’m chief seats feel like some of<00:49:40.400> that<00:49:40.800> kind<00:49:41.040> of<00:49:41.599> structure<00:49:42.240> has<00:49:42.559> been<00:49:42.720> lost of that kind of structure has been lost of that kind of structure has been lost a<00:49:43.280> little<00:49:43.359> bit<00:49:43.599> in<00:49:43.839> this<00:49:44.160> model.<00:49:45.200> Um<00:49:45.680> so<00:49:46.000> this a little bit in this model. Um so this a little bit in this model. Um so this there’s<00:49:47.680> a<00:49:47.839> lot<00:49:47.920> of<00:49:48.000> words<00:49:48.240> to<00:49:48.319> say<00:49:48.559> like<00:49:48.960> this there’s a lot of words to say like this there’s a lot of words to say like this whole<00:49:49.359> idea<00:49:49.520> of<00:49:49.680> making<00:49:49.920> the<00:49:50.079> building whole idea of making the building whole idea of making the building principles<00:49:50.800> the<00:49:50.960> instructional<00:49:51.359> leaders<00:49:51.680> is principles the instructional leaders is principles the instructional leaders is great<00:49:52.400> and<00:49:52.720> to<00:49:53.040> hopefully<00:49:53.520> is<00:49:53.760> to<00:49:53.920> strengthen great and to hopefully is to strengthen great and to hopefully is to strengthen that’s<00:49:54.640> one<00:49:54.800> area<00:49:55.119> right<00:49:55.359> would<00:49:55.680> be<00:49:55.920> to

49:56 that’s one area right would be to that’s one area right would be to strengthen<00:49:56.880> the<00:49:57.119> feedback<00:49:57.440> we're<00:49:57.680> giving strengthen the feedback we’re giving strengthen the feedback we’re giving teachers<00:49:58.079> to<00:49:58.319> make<00:49:58.400> the<00:49:58.559> teachers<00:49:58.880> the<00:49:59.040> best teachers to make the teachers the best teachers to make the teachers the best they<00:49:59.359> can<00:49:59.440> be<00:49:59.599> so<00:49:59.760> what<00:49:59.920> I<00:50:00.079> could<00:50:00.160> envision<00:50:00.480> is they can be so what I could envision is they can be so what I could envision is however<00:50:00.960> we<00:50:01.119> write<00:50:01.359> this<00:50:01.599> goal<00:50:02.720> that<00:50:03.760> um<00:50:04.000> one however we write this goal that um one however we write this goal that um one of<00:50:04.319> the<00:50:04.640> one<00:50:04.880> of<00:50:04.960> the<00:50:05.839> measurements<00:50:06.480> or<00:50:06.800> or of the one of the measurements or or of the one of the measurements or or results<00:50:07.760> could<00:50:08.000> be<00:50:08.960> principles<00:50:09.440> coming<00:50:09.599> to results could be principles coming to results could be principles coming to you<00:50:10.000> and<00:50:10.079> to<00:50:10.240> us<00:50:10.480> saying<00:50:11.440> this<00:50:11.599> is<00:50:11.680> what<00:50:11.839> I<00:50:11.920> need you and to us saying this is what I need you and to us saying this is what I need for<00:50:12.240> professional<00:50:12.559> development<00:50:13.040> this<00:50:13.119> is for professional development this is for professional development this is what<00:50:13.359> my<00:50:13.599> teachers<00:50:13.839> need<00:50:14.000> like<00:50:14.160> it's<00:50:14.319> informed what my teachers need like it’s informed what my teachers need like it’s informed formed<00:50:15.119> based<00:50:15.359> on<00:50:15.520> on<00:50:15.920> what<00:50:16.079> they're<00:50:16.319> doing formed based on on what they’re doing formed based on on what they’re doing and<00:50:16.640> what<00:50:16.720> they're<00:50:16.960> sharing<00:50:17.200> with<00:50:17.359> each and what they’re sharing with each and what they’re sharing with each other.<00:50:18.400> And<00:50:18.800> I<00:50:19.119> also<00:50:19.440> could<00:50:19.680> see<00:50:21.040> um<00:50:21.359> you<00:50:21.520> know other. And I also could see um you know other. And I also could see um you know staff<00:50:22.079> surveys.<00:50:22.640> I<00:50:22.800> don't<00:50:22.880> know<00:50:22.880> how<00:50:23.040> you<00:50:23.200> feel staff surveys. I don’t know how you feel staff surveys. I don’t know how you feel about<00:50:23.520> that.<00:50:23.839> You<00:50:23.920> know<00:50:24.160> staff<00:50:24.400> surveys about that. You know staff surveys about that. You know staff surveys giving<00:50:25.040> you<00:50:25.280> feedback<00:50:26.160> as<00:50:26.400> to<00:50:26.559> how<00:50:26.720> they're giving you feedback as to how they’re giving you feedback as to how they’re the<00:50:27.280> building<00:50:27.920> leaders<00:50:28.319> are<00:50:28.480> doing.<00:50:29.280> Um<00:50:29.520> these the building leaders are doing. Um these the building leaders are doing. Um these are<00:50:29.839> the<00:50:30.000> ways<00:50:30.079> that<00:50:30.240> you<00:50:30.400> would<00:50:30.640> have<00:50:30.880> to<00:50:30.960> to are the ways that you would have to to are the ways that you would have to to measure<00:50:31.599> it.<00:50:31.920> And<00:50:32.160> then<00:50:33.040> um<00:50:33.280> I<00:50:33.599> also<00:50:33.920> think measure it. And then um I also think measure it. And then um I also think that that that uh<00:50:36.960> to<00:50:37.200> have<00:50:37.359> the<00:50:37.520> building<00:50:37.839> principles<00:50:38.400> maybe uh to have the building principles maybe uh to have the building principles maybe be<00:50:39.119> a<00:50:39.359> little<00:50:39.440> bit<00:50:39.680> more

50:41 be a little bit more be a little bit more um<00:50:41.839> I<00:50:42.079> don't<00:50:42.160> know<00:50:42.240> if<00:50:42.400> involved<00:50:42.720> is<00:50:42.800> the<00:50:42.960> right um I don’t know if involved is the right um I don’t know if involved is the right word<00:50:43.280> but<00:50:43.520> attend<00:50:44.000> school<00:50:44.240> committee word but attend school committee word but attend school committee meetings<00:50:44.880> and<00:50:45.119> and<00:50:45.680> talk<00:50:45.920> about<00:50:46.160> the meetings and and talk about the meetings and and talk about the successes<00:50:46.880> that<00:50:47.040> they<00:50:47.280> have<00:50:47.440> in<00:50:47.680> their successes that they have in their successes that they have in their buildings<00:50:48.079> to<00:50:48.240> be<00:50:48.400> their<00:50:48.559> the<00:50:48.800> cheerleader. buildings to be their the cheerleader. buildings to be their the cheerleader. That<00:50:49.920> would<00:50:50.079> be<00:50:50.160> a<00:50:50.400> way<00:50:50.960> to<00:50:51.200> demonstrate<00:50:51.839> you That would be a way to demonstrate you That would be a way to demonstrate you know<00:50:52.800> demonstrate<00:50:53.680> what's<00:50:54.079> happening<00:50:54.319> with know demonstrate what’s happening with know demonstrate what’s happening with this<00:50:55.200> um<00:50:55.520> with<00:50:55.760> your<00:50:56.079> goal<00:50:56.319> to<00:50:56.559> make<00:50:56.800> them<00:50:57.040> the this um with your goal to make them the this um with your goal to make them the instructional<00:50:57.920> stronger.<00:50:58.480> They<00:50:58.640> are<00:50:58.800> the instructional stronger. They are the instructional stronger. They are the instructions<00:50:59.520> but<00:50:59.680> stronger<00:51:00.079> inspections. instructions but stronger inspections. instructions but stronger inspections. » No,<00:51:01.920> that's<00:51:02.079> all<00:51:02.240> good.<00:51:02.480> And<00:51:02.640> I<00:51:02.800> think<00:51:02.960> yeah, » No, that’s all good. And I think yeah, » No, that’s all good. And I think yeah, you<00:51:03.760> know,<00:51:03.920> flip<00:51:04.480> flipping<00:51:04.880> it<00:51:05.200> that<00:51:05.440> flipping you know, flip flipping it that flipping you know, flip flipping it that flipping the<00:51:06.000> script<00:51:06.160> on<00:51:06.319> that<00:51:06.559> and<00:51:07.280> changing<00:51:07.680> the<00:51:07.839> goal the script on that and changing the goal the script on that and changing the goal to<00:51:08.319> more<00:51:08.960> how<00:51:09.119> we to more how we to more how we » I<00:51:10.559> mean<00:51:10.640> you<00:51:10.720> have<00:51:10.800> to<00:51:11.200> structural<00:51:11.440> leadership » I mean you have to structural leadership » I mean you have to structural leadership » massage<00:51:12.400> the<00:51:12.640> wording,<00:51:13.040> right?<00:51:13.280> But<00:51:13.359> to<00:51:13.599> you » massage the wording, right? But to you » massage the wording, right? But to you know<00:51:13.760> because<00:51:13.920> I<00:51:14.079> think<00:51:14.240> you<00:51:14.480> wrote<00:51:14.640> it<00:51:14.800> you know because I think you wrote it you know because I think you wrote it you know<00:51:15.599> somewhere<00:51:15.920> you<00:51:16.079> wrote<00:51:16.240> this<00:51:16.480> about know somewhere you wrote this about know somewhere you wrote this about » summary » summary » summary » the<00:51:18.000> summary<00:51:18.240> about<00:51:18.480> making<00:51:18.800> the<00:51:19.040> principles » the summary about making the principles » the summary about making the principles because<00:51:20.319> I<00:51:20.480> think because I think because I think they<00:51:23.120> [clears throat]<00:51:23.440> I<00:51:23.760> think<00:51:23.839> the they [clears throat] I think the they [clears throat] I think the principles<00:51:24.559> have<00:51:24.800> they've<00:51:25.359> they've<00:51:25.760> been principles have they’ve they’ve been principles have they’ve they’ve been sort<00:51:26.160> of<00:51:26.240> caught<00:51:26.880> not<00:51:27.119> caught<00:51:27.359> but<00:51:27.760> they're

51:28 sort of caught not caught but they’re sort of caught not caught but they’re between<00:51:28.960> you<00:51:29.200> know<00:51:29.599> senior<00:51:29.920> administration between you know senior administration between you know senior administration school<00:51:30.960> committee<00:51:31.520> and<00:51:31.839> teachers<00:51:32.480> and<00:51:32.640> and school committee and teachers and and school committee and teachers and and parents<00:51:33.440> and<00:51:33.839> they<00:51:33.920> they<00:51:34.240> but<00:51:34.480> they<00:51:34.880> are<00:51:35.359> the parents and they they but they are the parents and they they but they are the lynch<00:51:35.839> pin<00:51:36.160> to<00:51:36.400> the<00:51:36.480> success<00:51:37.920> want<00:51:38.160> them<00:51:38.319> to lynch pin to the success want them to lynch pin to the success want them to feel<00:51:39.440> that<00:51:39.680> way.<00:51:39.920> No,<00:51:40.240> I<00:51:40.800> get<00:51:40.960> the<00:51:41.119> feedback feel that way. No, I get the feedback feel that way. No, I get the feedback because<00:51:41.520> I<00:51:41.680> think<00:51:42.480> you<00:51:42.720> know<00:51:42.960> I<00:51:43.119> I<00:51:43.520> recognized because I think you know I I recognized because I think you know I I recognized early<00:51:44.720> on early on early on » I<00:51:47.280> mean<00:51:47.520> Mary<00:51:47.760> Maxwell<00:51:48.160> is<00:51:48.319> a<00:51:48.960> senior » I mean Mary Maxwell is a senior » I mean Mary Maxwell is a senior principal<00:51:49.920> in<00:51:50.160> district. principal in district. principal in district. » It’s<00:51:51.280> kind<00:51:51.440> of<00:51:51.520> scary. » It’s kind of scary. » It’s kind of scary. » So<00:51:53.839> um<00:51:54.000> that's<00:51:54.319> scary<00:51:55.040> and<00:51:55.280> then<00:51:55.520> so<00:51:55.680> I » So um that’s scary and then so I » So um that’s scary and then so I recognize<00:51:56.160> that<00:51:56.319> right<00:51:56.480> away<00:51:56.640> like<00:51:56.800> we<00:51:56.960> need recognize that right away like we need recognize that right away like we need to<00:51:57.200> do<00:51:57.359> something<00:51:57.760> to<00:51:58.000> just<00:51:58.960> everyone's<00:51:59.440> kind to do something to just everyone’s kind to do something to just everyone’s kind of<00:51:59.680> on<00:51:59.839> the<00:52:00.000> same<00:52:00.160> page<00:52:00.720> having<00:52:01.119> conversations of on the same page having conversations of on the same page having conversations and<00:52:01.920> this<00:52:02.160> was<00:52:02.400> the<00:52:02.640> learning<00:52:03.119> from<00:52:03.280> blue.<00:52:03.920> Um, and this was the learning from blue. Um, and this was the learning from blue. Um, but<00:52:04.400> I<00:52:04.559> do<00:52:05.040> think<00:52:05.040> maybe<00:52:05.280> we<00:52:05.440> get<00:52:05.599> flip-flopp<00:52:06.079> a but I do think maybe we get flip-flopp a but I do think maybe we get flip-flopp a little<00:52:06.319> bit<00:52:06.480> to<00:52:06.800> you little bit to you little bit to you better.<00:52:10.559> Um,<00:52:11.119> so<00:52:11.280> I<00:52:11.599> I<00:52:11.760> can<00:52:11.920> certainly<00:52:12.880> change

52:13 better. Um, so I I can certainly change better. Um, so I I can certainly change the<00:52:14.559> project<00:52:15.119> of<00:52:15.280> that. the project of that. the project of that. » Yeah,<00:52:16.720> I<00:52:16.880> guess<00:52:16.960> that<00:52:17.119> that<00:52:17.440> helps<00:52:17.599> me<00:52:17.839> because » Yeah, I guess that that helps me because » Yeah, I guess that that helps me because I’m<00:52:18.800> tr<00:52:19.599> Jen<00:52:19.920> was<00:52:20.079> a<00:52:20.240> huge<00:52:20.559> upgrade,<00:52:20.880> but<00:52:21.119> I'm I’m tr Jen was a huge upgrade, but I’m I’m tr Jen was a huge upgrade, but I’m still<00:52:21.520> somewhat<00:52:21.839> underwhelmed<00:52:22.726> [laughter] still somewhat underwhelmed [laughter] still somewhat underwhelmed [laughter] by<00:52:23.359> this<00:52:23.599> goal. by this goal. by this goal. » But<00:52:24.640> what<00:52:24.880> might<00:52:25.200> help<00:52:25.359> me<00:52:25.599> become<00:52:25.920> more » But what might help me become more » But what might help me become more wellelmed<00:52:28.319> is<00:52:28.559> like<00:52:28.880> what<00:52:29.119> is<00:52:29.200> it<00:52:29.440> solving? wellelmed is like what is it solving? wellelmed is like what is it solving? like<00:52:30.319> do<00:52:30.480> we<00:52:30.640> have<00:52:30.800> myopic<00:52:31.520> principles<00:52:32.000> right like do we have myopic principles right like do we have myopic principles right now<00:52:32.319> or<00:52:32.559> do<00:52:32.720> we<00:52:32.800> have<00:52:33.040> inexperienced now or do we have inexperienced now or do we have inexperienced principles<00:52:34.480> right<00:52:34.720> now<00:52:35.520> and<00:52:35.760> if<00:52:36.160> I<00:52:36.319> don't<00:52:36.480> mean principles right now and if I don’t mean principles right now and if I don’t mean that<00:52:36.720> to<00:52:36.800> be<00:52:36.960> judgmental<00:52:37.440> but<00:52:37.599> especially that to be judgmental but especially that to be judgmental but especially like<00:52:38.079> the<00:52:38.319> second<00:52:38.559> if<00:52:38.720> we<00:52:38.880> have<00:52:39.359> hey<00:52:39.599> we<00:52:39.760> know like the second if we have hey we know like the second if we have hey we know as<00:52:40.000> a<00:52:40.160> district<00:52:40.480> we<00:52:41.760> we<00:52:42.079> have<00:52:42.240> very<00:52:42.480> young as a district we we have very young as a district we we have very young principles<00:52:43.119> and<00:52:43.359> this<00:52:43.599> is<00:52:43.680> the<00:52:43.839> best<00:52:44.079> time principles and this is the best time principles and this is the best time that<00:52:44.640> you<00:52:44.960> should<00:52:45.119> be<00:52:45.359> focusing<00:52:46.480> because that you should be focusing because that you should be focusing because otherwise<00:52:47.119> it's<00:52:47.359> should<00:52:47.520> it's<00:52:47.839> just<00:52:48.000> their otherwise it’s should it’s just their otherwise it’s should it’s just their job<00:52:48.559> description<00:52:49.119> to<00:52:49.359> kind<00:52:49.520> of<00:52:49.599> do<00:52:49.760> what<00:52:49.920> we're job description to kind of do what we’re job description to kind of do what we’re saying<00:52:50.400> right<00:52:50.559> here<00:52:51.040> to<00:52:51.200> me saying right here to me saying right here to me » so<00:52:51.839> maybe<00:52:52.000> maybe<00:52:52.240> I<00:52:52.400> make<00:52:52.559> that<00:52:52.720> more<00:52:52.880> clearly » so maybe maybe I make that more clearly » so maybe maybe I make that more clearly goal<00:52:53.599> because<00:52:53.839> it's<00:52:54.160> both<00:52:54.319> thing<00:52:54.559> right<00:52:54.720> so<00:52:54.880> we goal because it’s both thing right so we goal because it’s both thing right so we have<00:52:55.200> we<00:52:55.440> have<00:52:55.599> newer<00:52:56.000> principles<00:52:56.640> we<00:52:56.880> have have we have newer principles we have have we have newer principles we have veteran<00:52:57.839> principles<00:52:58.240> from<00:52:58.400> a<00:52:58.559> new<00:52:58.800> newer<00:52:59.200> to

52:59 veteran principles from a new newer to veteran principles from a new newer to marble<00:52:59.760> And<00:53:00.000> so<00:53:00.240> the<00:53:00.559> culture<00:53:01.680> of<00:53:01.760> his<00:53:02.000> model marble And so the culture of his model marble And so the culture of his model and<00:53:02.800> and<00:53:02.880> then<00:53:03.040> like<00:53:03.200> I<00:53:03.359> said<00:53:03.599> Mary<00:53:03.920> Maxwell<00:53:04.240> is and and then like I said Mary Maxwell is and and then like I said Mary Maxwell is our<00:53:04.559> most<00:53:04.720> senior<00:53:05.040> principal<00:53:05.440> in<00:53:05.599> district our most senior principal in district our most senior principal in district which<00:53:06.480> four<00:53:06.640> years<00:53:06.960> is<00:53:07.280> really<00:53:08.319> infancy which four years is really infancy which four years is really infancy » I<00:53:10.800> have<00:53:10.960> 18<00:53:11.839> 20-year-old » I have 18 20-year-old » I have 18 20-year-old » you<00:53:13.680> know<00:53:13.839> bathroom<00:53:14.240> principal.<00:53:14.800> So<00:53:15.680> which » you know bathroom principal. So which » you know bathroom principal. So which you<00:53:16.319> know<00:53:16.480> that<00:53:16.720> becomes<00:53:16.960> a<00:53:17.119> whole<00:53:17.280> other you know that becomes a whole other you know that becomes a whole other thing<00:53:17.839> and<00:53:18.000> they<00:53:18.160> stuck<00:53:18.319> in<00:53:18.400> their<00:53:18.559> ways<00:53:18.800> and thing and they stuck in their ways and thing and they stuck in their ways and stuff.<00:53:19.200> So<00:53:19.760> this<00:53:20.000> was<00:53:20.160> a<00:53:20.400> this<00:53:20.720> was<00:53:21.280> you<00:53:21.440> know stuff. So this was a this was you know stuff. So this was a this was you know some<00:53:21.760> of<00:53:21.839> my<00:53:22.160> early<00:53:22.480> on<00:53:22.720> stuff<00:53:22.960> like<00:53:23.119> how some of my early on stuff like how some of my early on stuff like how principles<00:53:24.480> right<00:53:24.880> um<00:53:25.520> love<00:53:25.760> saying<00:53:26.000> that<00:53:26.400> uh principles right um love saying that uh principles right um love saying that uh but<00:53:26.800> I<00:53:27.040> think<00:53:27.839> the<00:53:28.160> goal<00:53:28.400> is<00:53:28.640> to<00:53:28.880> make<00:53:29.040> sure but I think the goal is to make sure but I think the goal is to make sure that<00:53:29.520> they're<00:53:30.559> not<00:53:30.800> just<00:53:31.040> managing<00:53:31.599> the that they’re not just managing the that they’re not just managing the building<00:53:32.160> that<00:53:32.400> they're<00:53:32.720> actually<00:53:33.280> have<00:53:33.920> to building that they’re actually have to building that they’re actually have to buy<00:53:34.480> that<00:53:34.720> they're<00:53:35.119> and<00:53:35.280> I<00:53:35.839> said<00:53:36.640> that<00:53:36.880> they buy that they’re and I said that they buy that they’re and I said that they like<00:53:37.359> how<00:53:37.680> how<00:53:38.000> they<00:53:38.640> review like how how they review like how how they review that<00:53:41.040> why<00:53:42.400> there<00:53:42.640> all<00:53:42.800> things<00:53:42.960> you<00:53:43.119> said<00:53:43.680> are that why there all things you said are that why there all things you said are things<00:53:44.640> we<00:53:44.800> need<00:53:45.200> this<00:53:45.359> is<00:53:45.440> what<00:53:45.520> we<00:53:45.680> need<00:53:45.760> for

53:45 things we need this is what we need for things we need this is what we need for PD<00:53:47.280> we<00:53:47.440> get<00:53:47.599> it PD we get it PD we get it It’s,<00:53:49.680> you<00:53:49.760> know,<00:53:50.000> we're<00:53:50.079> ready<00:53:51.040> to<00:53:51.200> kind<00:53:51.359> of It’s, you know, we’re ready to kind of It’s, you know, we’re ready to kind of hit<00:53:51.920> once<00:53:52.480> that<00:53:52.640> fightation. hit once that fightation. hit once that fightation. Um,<00:53:55.359> you<00:53:55.520> know,<00:53:55.680> so<00:53:55.839> I<00:53:56.079> think,<00:53:57.359> yeah,<00:53:58.079> I'll<00:53:58.319> be Um, you know, so I think, yeah, I’ll be Um, you know, so I think, yeah, I’ll be in<00:53:58.800> trouble,<00:53:59.359> but<00:53:59.920> um,<00:54:00.800> so<00:54:01.040> I<00:54:01.280> don't<00:54:02.000> know. in trouble, but um, so I don’t know. in trouble, but um, so I don’t know. » Well,<00:54:02.800> I<00:54:03.119> think<00:54:04.000> going<00:54:04.319> back<00:54:04.480> to<00:54:04.640> the<00:54:04.880> rubric, » Well, I think going back to the rubric, » Well, I think going back to the rubric, right?<00:54:06.800> I'm<00:54:06.960> I'm<00:54:07.280> in<00:54:08.160> uh<00:54:08.880> performance right? I’m I’m in uh performance right? I’m I’m in uh performance assessment<00:54:10.319> at<00:54:10.559> my<00:54:10.720> job<00:54:11.040> right<00:54:11.200> now.<00:54:11.440> So,<00:54:11.599> I'm assessment at my job right now. So, I’m assessment at my job right now. So, I’m gonna<00:54:11.839> make<00:54:12.079> this<00:54:12.240> is<00:54:12.480> all gonna make this is all gonna make this is all » but<00:54:14.319> um<00:54:15.280> you<00:54:15.440> pick » but um you pick » but um you pick » I<00:54:16.000> did.<00:54:16.160> So<00:54:16.319> I<00:54:16.559> picked<00:54:16.880> 1A<00:54:17.359> which<00:54:17.599> is<00:54:17.680> a » I did. So I picked 1A which is a » I did. So I picked 1A which is a curriculum curriculum curriculum uh<00:54:20.880> goal uh goal uh goal uh<00:54:22.480> which<00:54:22.720> is<00:54:22.880> sort<00:54:23.040> of<00:54:23.200> about<00:54:23.680> you<00:54:23.839> know uh which is sort of about you know uh which is sort of about you know instructional<00:54:25.680> it<00:54:25.920> ensures<00:54:26.240> that<00:54:26.480> all instructional it ensures that all instructional it ensures that all instructional<00:54:27.119> staff<00:54:27.440> design<00:54:27.760> effective<00:54:28.079> and instructional staff design effective and instructional staff design effective and rigorous<00:54:28.640> standardbased<00:54:29.280> units<00:54:29.599> of<00:54:30.160> of rigorous standardbased units of of rigorous standardbased units of of instruction<00:54:31.359> consisting<00:54:31.839> of<00:54:32.079> well

54:32 instruction consisting of well instruction consisting of well structured<00:54:32.720> lessons<00:54:33.760> with<00:54:34.000> measurable structured lessons with measurable structured lessons with measurable outcomes.<00:54:34.800> That<00:54:35.040> one<00:54:36.240> kind<00:54:36.559> of<00:54:36.880> but<00:54:37.200> then outcomes. That one kind of but then outcomes. That one kind of but then there<00:54:38.240> is<00:54:39.119> 4E there is 4E there is 4E which<00:54:41.359> is<00:54:41.680> a<00:54:41.920> shared<00:54:42.240> vision<00:54:42.640> goal<00:54:43.359> which<00:54:43.520> I which is a shared vision goal which I which is a shared vision goal which I think<00:54:43.920> really<00:54:44.240> is<00:54:44.400> is<00:54:44.640> a<00:54:44.800> better<00:54:45.040> scenario<00:54:45.440> of think really is is a better scenario of think really is is a better scenario of this.<00:54:45.760> I<00:54:46.000> don't<00:54:46.079> know<00:54:46.160> that<00:54:46.319> we<00:54:46.480> need<00:54:46.640> to<00:54:46.800> put this. I don’t know that we need to put this. I don’t know that we need to put two<00:54:47.280> standards<00:54:47.920> for<00:54:48.319> everything two standards for everything two standards for everything » curriculum<00:54:50.480> is<00:54:51.280> it's<00:54:51.599> go<00:54:51.839> but<00:54:52.000> it's<00:54:52.160> a<00:54:52.319> little » curriculum is it’s go but it’s a little » curriculum is it’s go but it’s a little bit<00:54:52.559> more<00:54:53.760> focus bit more focus bit more focus more<00:54:55.599> I<00:54:55.920> like<00:54:56.079> on<00:54:56.240> the<00:54:56.400> teacher<00:54:56.720> level<00:54:57.040> I<00:54:57.200> also more I like on the teacher level I also more I like on the teacher level I also looked<00:54:57.680> at<00:54:58.400> a looked at a looked at a » making<00:55:00.079> sure<00:55:00.319> that's » making sure that’s » making sure that’s » I<00:55:01.200> also<00:55:01.359> looked<00:55:01.520> at<00:55:01.599> 2A<00:55:01.920> which<00:55:02.160> may<00:55:02.400> not » I also looked at 2A which may not » I also looked at 2A which may not actually<00:55:02.800> fit<00:55:02.960> either<00:55:03.200> which<00:55:03.440> is<00:55:03.520> develops actually fit either which is develops actually fit either which is develops and<00:55:04.079> executes<00:55:04.480> executive<00:55:04.960> plans<00:55:05.359> procedures and executes executive plans procedures and executes executive plans procedures routines<00:55:06.079> and<00:55:06.240> operational<00:55:06.720> systems<00:55:06.960> to routines and operational systems to routines and operational systems to address<00:55:07.359> a<00:55:07.599> full<00:55:07.839> range<00:55:08.079> of<00:55:08.240> safety<00:55:08.640> health address a full range of safety health address a full range of safety health emotional<00:55:09.280> and<00:55:09.440> social<00:55:09.680> need<00:55:10.160> probably<00:55:10.319> not emotional and social need probably not emotional and social need probably not » yeah<00:55:10.960> I<00:55:11.040> mean<00:55:11.119> I<00:55:11.280> think<00:55:11.359> we<00:55:11.680> for<00:55:11.920> this<00:55:12.079> one » yeah I mean I think we for this one » yeah I mean I think we for this one maybe<00:55:12.559> we<00:55:12.720> just<00:55:12.880> have<00:55:13.119> one<00:55:13.440> but<00:55:13.680> again<00:55:13.920> I<00:55:14.160> think maybe we just have one but again I think maybe we just have one but again I think like like like » the<00:55:15.200> shar<00:55:15.440> looking<00:55:16.000> looking<00:55:16.319> at<00:55:16.559> the<00:55:16.960> at<00:55:17.200> the

55:17 » the shar looking looking at the at the » the shar looking looking at the at the rubric<00:55:18.079> as<00:55:18.559> sort<00:55:18.720> of<00:55:18.880> what<00:55:19.119> we're<00:55:19.280> going<00:55:19.440> to<00:55:19.520> be rubric as sort of what we’re going to be rubric as sort of what we’re going to be used<00:55:20.079> to<00:55:20.400> evaluate<00:55:21.359> might<00:55:21.599> help<00:55:21.839> you<00:55:23.040> you<00:55:23.200> know used to evaluate might help you you know used to evaluate might help you you know with<00:55:23.520> the<00:55:23.680> language. with the language. with the language. » Yeah.<00:55:24.720> And<00:55:24.880> I<00:55:25.040> think<00:55:25.200> I<00:55:25.440> think<00:55:25.680> backwards » Yeah. And I think I think backwards » Yeah. And I think I think backwards design<00:55:26.480> from<00:55:26.640> that<00:55:26.960> probably.<00:55:27.839> Yeah. design from that probably. Yeah. design from that probably. Yeah. » Well,<00:55:30.400> here's<00:55:30.640> another<00:55:30.800> one<00:55:30.960> under » Well, here’s another one under » Well, here’s another one under continuous<00:55:31.680> learning<00:55:32.000> which<00:55:32.160> is<00:55:32.319> right<00:55:32.480> about continuous learning which is right about continuous learning which is right about it.<00:55:33.040> Develops<00:55:33.359> and<00:55:33.599> nurtures<00:55:33.920> a<00:55:34.079> culture<00:55:34.240> in it. Develops and nurtures a culture in it. Develops and nurtures a culture in which<00:55:34.640> staff<00:55:34.880> members<00:55:35.119> are<00:55:35.280> reflective<00:55:35.760> about which staff members are reflective about which staff members are reflective about their<00:55:36.160> practice<00:55:36.400> and<00:55:36.640> use<00:55:36.880> student<00:55:37.119> data. their practice and use student data. their practice and use student data. Current<00:55:38.000> research<00:55:38.480> best<00:55:38.640> practices<00:55:39.119> and Current research best practices and Current research best practices and theory<00:55:39.520> to<00:55:39.680> continuously<00:55:40.160> adapt<00:55:40.559> practice theory to continuously adapt practice theory to continuously adapt practice and<00:55:41.040> achieve<00:55:41.920> improve<00:55:42.400> results.<00:55:42.800> models and achieve improve results. models and achieve improve results. models these<00:55:43.359> behaviors<00:55:43.680> in<00:55:43.839> his<00:55:44.000> or<00:55:44.160> her<00:55:44.400> own these behaviors in his or her own these behaviors in his or her own practice. practice. practice. » That<00:55:46.480> was<00:55:46.640> 14. » That was 14. » That was 14. » Interesting<00:55:48.799> that<00:55:49.040> there<00:55:49.200> isn't<00:55:50.400> a<00:55:50.799> specific » Interesting that there isn’t a specific » Interesting that there isn’t a specific rubric<00:55:52.000> here<00:55:52.319> about<00:55:52.720> like rubric here about like rubric here about like » all<00:55:54.160> the<00:55:54.319> different<00:55:54.640> buildings<00:55:55.440> like<00:55:56.000> you » all the different buildings like you » all the different buildings like you know<00:55:56.720> working<00:55:57.520> working<00:55:58.000> towards<00:55:58.400> like<00:55:58.640> rowing know working working towards like rowing know working working towards like rowing in<00:55:58.880> the<00:55:59.040> same<00:55:59.200> direction<00:55:59.680> working<00:55:59.920> together. in the same direction working together. in the same direction working together. So<00:56:00.640> I<00:56:00.880> think<00:56:00.960> that's<00:56:01.280> an<00:56:01.520> indication<00:56:01.920> that So I think that’s an indication that So I think that’s an indication that this<00:56:02.559> is<00:56:02.720> a<00:56:02.960> good<00:56:03.119> goal<00:56:04.240> because<00:56:04.640> it's<00:56:05.119> it's

56:05 this is a good goal because it’s it’s this is a good goal because it’s it’s fresh<00:56:06.240> and<00:56:06.400> and<00:56:06.799> important. fresh and and important. fresh and and important. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah.<00:56:09.200> Good.<00:56:09.440> So<00:56:09.680> yeah,<00:56:09.920> I<00:56:10.079> think<00:56:10.319> all<00:56:10.559> that's » Yeah. Good. So yeah, I think all that’s » Yeah. Good. So yeah, I think all that’s good.<00:56:11.839> So<00:56:12.079> I<00:56:12.240> think<00:56:12.400> we<00:56:12.559> like<00:56:12.799> 4. good. So I think we like 4. good. So I think we like 4. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » I<00:56:15.520> said<00:56:15.680> 4D,<00:56:15.920> but<00:56:16.079> you<00:56:16.240> don't.<00:56:16.400> I<00:56:16.559> mean, » I said 4D, but you don’t. I mean, » I said 4D, but you don’t. I mean, » I<00:56:17.200> think<00:56:17.280> that<00:56:17.520> makes<00:56:17.680> sense.<00:56:18.079> Can

56:32 » Um, I agree with the other comments. I » Um, I agree with the other comments. I think<00:56:33.200> as<00:56:33.520> you<00:56:33.680> revise,<00:56:34.240> to<00:56:34.400> me<00:56:34.559> it<00:56:34.799> would<00:56:34.960> be think as you revise, to me it would be think as you revise, to me it would be important<00:56:36.240> not<00:56:36.400> lose<00:56:36.720> the<00:56:36.880> idea<00:56:37.359> idea<00:56:37.680> in<00:56:37.920> here important not lose the idea idea in here important not lose the idea idea in here of<00:56:38.640> cohesive<00:56:39.280> practices<00:56:39.839> across<00:56:40.240> our of cohesive practices across our of cohesive practices across our buildings.<00:56:41.280> Um,<00:56:42.319> you<00:56:42.480> know,<00:56:42.559> when<00:56:42.720> we<00:56:42.960> talked buildings. Um, you know, when we talked buildings. Um, you know, when we talked about about about enrollment<00:56:46.640> earlier<00:56:46.960> in<00:56:47.119> the<00:56:47.280> year,<00:56:47.520> you enrollment earlier in the year, you enrollment earlier in the year, you know,<00:56:47.760> one<00:56:47.839> of<00:56:47.920> the<00:56:48.079> things<00:56:48.160> I<00:56:48.400> heard<00:56:48.640> from know, one of the things I heard from know, one of the things I heard from parents<00:56:49.920> of<00:56:50.160> my<00:56:50.400> daughter's<00:56:50.799> age<00:56:51.119> who<00:56:51.359> chose parents of my daughter’s age who chose parents of my daughter’s age who chose to<00:56:51.760> move<00:56:52.000> their<00:56:52.160> kids<00:56:52.400> to<00:56:52.720> charter<00:56:53.440> was<00:56:53.680> the to move their kids to charter was the to move their kids to charter was the number<00:56:54.079> of<00:56:54.240> transitions<00:56:54.720> that<00:56:54.960> kids<00:56:55.200> in<00:56:55.440> the number of transitions that kids in the number of transitions that kids in the district<00:56:55.920> have<00:56:56.079> to<00:56:56.240> go<00:56:56.319> through.<00:56:57.119> And<00:56:57.440> the district have to go through. And the district have to go through. And the more<00:56:57.920> we<00:56:58.160> can<00:56:58.400> be<00:56:59.119> not<00:56:59.359> just<00:56:59.599> aligned,<00:57:00.240> but more we can be not just aligned, but more we can be not just aligned, but helping<00:57:00.960> families<00:57:01.599> understand<00:57:02.480> that,<00:57:03.119> you helping families understand that, you helping families understand that, you know,<00:57:03.520> what<00:57:03.760> happens<00:57:04.000> at<00:57:04.160> Village<00:57:04.480> will<00:57:04.640> be know, what happens at Village will be know, what happens at Village will be very<00:57:04.960> familiar<00:57:05.359> to<00:57:05.520> what<00:57:05.760> happened<00:57:05.920> at<00:57:06.160> either very familiar to what happened at either very familiar to what happened at either Glover<00:57:06.880> or<00:57:07.119> Brown<00:57:07.440> because<00:57:07.680> it<00:57:07.920> was Glover or Brown because it was Glover or Brown because it was substantially<00:57:09.520> similar<00:57:09.839> at<00:57:10.079> both.<00:57:10.400> And<00:57:10.559> then substantially similar at both. And then substantially similar at both. And then when<00:57:10.880> you<00:57:10.960> go<00:57:11.040> on<00:57:11.280> to<00:57:11.359> vets.<00:57:11.760> So<00:57:12.720> I<00:57:12.960> think<00:57:13.119> it's when you go on to vets. So I think it’s when you go on to vets. So I think it’s important,<00:57:14.559> you<00:57:14.640> know,<00:57:14.799> we<00:57:15.040> talked<00:57:15.280> when<00:57:15.599> the important, you know, we talked when the important, you know, we talked when the Brown<00:57:16.160> School<00:57:16.400> was<00:57:16.559> being<00:57:16.720> constructed<00:57:17.200> about Brown School was being constructed about Brown School was being constructed about we<00:57:18.000> really<00:57:18.319> moving<00:57:18.640> from<00:57:18.799> being<00:57:19.040> a<00:57:19.280> system<00:57:19.520> of

57:19 we really moving from being a system of we really moving from being a system of different<00:57:20.079> schools<00:57:20.480> to<00:57:20.720> being<00:57:20.960> a<00:57:21.200> school different schools to being a school different schools to being a school district.<00:57:21.920> And<00:57:22.079> I<00:57:22.240> think<00:57:22.400> this<00:57:22.559> is<00:57:22.720> just<00:57:22.880> the district. And I think this is just the district. And I think this is just the next<00:57:23.359> step<00:57:24.000> in<00:57:24.319> doing<00:57:24.559> that. next step in doing that. next step in doing that. » Yeah. » Yeah. » Yeah. » In<00:57:26.000> fact,<00:57:26.240> one<00:57:26.400> of<00:57:26.400> the<00:57:26.559> things<00:57:26.720> you<00:57:27.200> you<00:57:27.359> know » In fact, one of the things you you know » In fact, one of the things you you know what<00:57:28.319> work,<00:57:28.480> but<00:57:28.640> you<00:57:28.880> could<00:57:29.440> factor<00:57:29.680> into what work, but you could factor into what work, but you could factor into this<00:57:30.079> goal<00:57:30.319> is<00:57:30.799> you're<00:57:31.040> talking<00:57:31.200> about this goal is you’re talking about this goal is you’re talking about instructional<00:57:31.920> leaders<00:57:32.160> within<00:57:32.480> their instructional leaders within their instructional leaders within their buildings<00:57:33.839> um<00:57:34.000> but<00:57:34.240> also<00:57:34.559> with<00:57:34.720> these buildings um but also with these buildings um but also with these district<00:57:35.280> learning<00:57:35.520> walks<00:57:35.839> which<00:57:36.000> will<00:57:36.160> be<00:57:36.240> in district learning walks which will be in district learning walks which will be in there<00:57:36.960> is<00:57:37.440> um<00:57:37.599> strengthening<00:57:38.160> the<00:57:38.400> transition there is um strengthening the transition there is um strengthening the transition years,<00:57:39.440> right?<00:57:39.760> three<00:57:39.920> to<00:57:40.079> four.<00:57:40.720> By<00:57:40.960> the<00:57:41.040> way, years, right? three to four. By the way, years, right? three to four. By the way, it<00:57:41.520> doesn't<00:57:41.680> have<00:57:41.839> to<00:57:41.920> be<00:57:42.160> that<00:57:42.400> many it doesn’t have to be that many it doesn’t have to be that many transitions,<00:57:43.760> but<00:57:44.079> the<00:57:44.240> subjects

57:51 and I think Yeah. Yeah. I can add more and I think Yeah. Yeah. I can add more about<00:57:51.920> the

58:04 » evidence. » evidence. Go<00:58:04.240> back<00:58:04.480> just<00:58:04.640> for<00:58:04.720> a<00:58:04.799> sec.<00:58:05.520> Violating<00:58:06.000> the Go back just for a sec. Violating the Go back just for a sec. Violating the process.<00:58:06.640> Um process. Um process. Um Jen,<00:58:10.400> Jen,<00:58:10.880> I'm<00:58:11.119> sorry.<00:58:11.440> Just<00:58:11.680> talk.<00:58:12.000> That<00:58:12.160> was Jen, Jen, I’m sorry. Just talk. That was Jen, Jen, I’m sorry. Just talk. That was that<00:58:12.880> was<00:58:13.440> a<00:58:13.680> bad<00:58:13.920> joke.<00:58:14.319> Um,<00:58:15.520> around<00:58:15.920> the<00:58:16.240> how that was a bad joke. Um, around the how that was a bad joke. Um, around the how to<00:58:16.720> measure<00:58:16.960> it.<00:58:17.760> I<00:58:18.000> think<00:58:18.160> Jen<00:58:18.480> mentioned<00:58:18.880> it, to measure it. I think Jen mentioned it, to measure it. I think Jen mentioned it, but<00:58:19.599> you<00:58:19.760> know,<00:58:19.920> I<00:58:20.400> I'm<00:58:20.640> always<00:58:20.880> worried but you know, I I’m always worried but you know, I I’m always worried everything’s<00:58:21.680> going<00:58:21.760> to<00:58:21.839> be<00:58:21.920> measured<00:58:22.240> by<00:58:22.319> a everything’s going to be measured by a everything’s going to be measured by a survey,<00:58:23.280> right?<00:58:23.839> But<00:58:23.920> it's<00:58:24.160> probably<00:58:24.319> one<00:58:24.480> of survey, right? But it’s probably one of survey, right? But it’s probably one of the<00:58:24.720> few<00:58:24.880> ways<00:58:25.119> to<00:58:25.440> truly<00:58:25.839> measure<00:58:26.160> this.<00:58:26.400> And the few ways to truly measure this. And the few ways to truly measure this. And it<00:58:26.720> shouldn't<00:58:26.960> be<00:58:27.040> a<00:58:27.200> survey<00:58:27.520> of<00:58:27.760> the it shouldn’t be a survey of the it shouldn’t be a survey of the principles,<00:58:28.960> I<00:58:29.200> don't<00:58:29.280> believe, principles, I don’t believe, principles, I don’t believe, [clears throat]<00:58:29.599> right?<00:58:29.760> It<00:58:29.920> should<00:58:30.000> be<00:58:30.079> a [clears throat] right? It should be a [clears throat] right? It should be a survey<00:58:30.559> of<00:58:31.520> of<00:58:31.760> the<00:58:32.000> staff,<00:58:32.640> right?<00:58:33.200> And<00:58:33.520> so,<00:58:33.920> I survey of of the staff, right? And so, I survey of of the staff, right? And so, I just<00:58:34.240> wanted<00:58:34.480> to<00:58:34.559> kind<00:58:34.720> of<00:58:34.799> reiterate<00:58:35.200> that.

58:40 Yeah. Yeah. » There’s<00:58:40.880> probably<00:58:41.119> issues<00:58:41.440> with<00:58:41.599> that. » There’s probably issues with that. » There’s probably issues with that. » Potentially<00:58:44.799> from » Potentially from » Potentially from » or<00:58:46.880> collective<00:58:47.200> bar<00:58:47.839> to<00:58:48.000> just<00:58:48.160> check » or collective bar to just check » or collective bar to just check collective<00:58:48.720> I<00:58:48.880> don't<00:58:48.960> know<00:58:48.960> if<00:58:49.040> there's<00:58:49.200> an collective I don’t know if there’s an collective I don’t know if there’s an issue<00:58:49.520> with<00:58:49.680> collective<00:58:50.000> bargaining. issue with collective bargaining. issue with collective bargaining. Sometimes Sometimes Sometimes » the<00:58:51.920> issue<00:58:52.160> is » the issue is » the issue is » yeah<00:58:55.040> the<00:58:55.119> issue<00:58:55.280> is<00:58:55.359> exactly<00:58:56.079> were<00:58:56.160> just » yeah the issue is exactly were just » yeah the issue is exactly were just going<00:58:56.480> to<00:58:56.559> say<00:58:56.720> is<00:58:56.960> that<00:58:57.839> um<00:58:58.400> people<00:58:58.799> even going to say is that um people even going to say is that um people even though<00:58:59.119> you<00:58:59.280> say<00:58:59.440> this<00:58:59.599> is<00:58:59.760> an<00:59:00.000> anonymous though you say this is an anonymous though you say this is an anonymous survey<00:59:00.799> they<00:59:00.960> don't<00:59:01.119> ever<00:59:01.440> believe<00:59:01.760> it<00:59:02.000> even survey they don’t ever believe it even survey they don’t ever believe it even though<00:59:02.319> I<00:59:02.480> have<00:59:02.559> no<00:59:02.799> way<00:59:02.880> of<00:59:03.040> seeing<00:59:03.599> who<00:59:03.839> did though I have no way of seeing who did though I have no way of seeing who did it.<00:59:04.319> Um,<00:59:04.960> and<00:59:05.280> people<00:59:05.520> aren't<00:59:05.839> as,<00:59:06.480> you<00:59:06.640> know, it. Um, and people aren’t as, you know, it. Um, and people aren’t as, you know, because<00:59:07.359> of<00:59:07.520> that<00:59:07.760> they're<00:59:07.920> aren't<00:59:08.079> as,<00:59:08.480> you because of that they’re aren’t as, you because of that they’re aren’t as, you know,<00:59:08.720> whatever.<00:59:09.200> Or<00:59:09.599> they<00:59:09.839> go<00:59:10.000> the<00:59:10.079> other<00:59:10.240> way know, whatever. Or they go the other way know, whatever. Or they go the other way and<00:59:10.400> they're<00:59:10.480> like,<00:59:10.559> "Oh,<00:59:10.799> this<00:59:10.880> is<00:59:11.040> my and they’re like, “Oh, this is my and they’re like, “Oh, this is my opportunity<00:59:11.440> to<00:59:11.599> just<00:59:11.760> bash<00:59:12.079> the<00:59:12.240> crap<00:59:12.400> out<00:59:12.559> of opportunity to just bash the crap out of opportunity to just bash the crap out of this<00:59:12.799> person."<00:59:13.119> Which<00:59:13.200> is<00:59:13.280> also<00:59:13.599> because<00:59:13.839> it's this person.” Which is also because it’s this person.” Which is also because it’s always<00:59:14.400> a,<00:59:14.640> you<00:59:14.720> know,<00:59:14.880> bell<00:59:15.200> curve.<00:59:15.760> Um,<00:59:16.079> what always a, you know, bell curve. Um, what always a, you know, bell curve. Um, what I<00:59:16.480> ran<00:59:16.640> into<00:59:17.119> previously<00:59:17.920> in<00:59:18.160> in<00:59:18.559> buildings I ran into previously in in buildings I ran into previously in in buildings that<00:59:20.400> there's<00:59:20.640> a<00:59:20.880> principal<00:59:21.280> and<00:59:21.440> an that there’s a principal and an that there’s a principal and an assistant<00:59:22.079> principal,<00:59:23.040> but<00:59:23.200> a<00:59:23.359> lot<00:59:23.520> of<00:59:23.599> them, assistant principal, but a lot of them, assistant principal, but a lot of them, they<00:59:24.000> devi

59:28 you know, we’re going to do a survey on you know, we’re going to do a survey on Chris<00:59:28.559> Costa,<00:59:29.040> you<00:59:29.119> know,<00:59:29.200> the<00:59:29.440> principal, Chris Costa, you know, the principal, Chris Costa, you know, the principal, and<00:59:30.240> then<00:59:30.720> and<00:59:30.960> the<00:59:31.200> vice<00:59:31.520> principal. and then and the vice principal. and then and the vice principal. like,<00:59:33.440> well,<00:59:34.319> Chris<00:59:34.480> Costa<00:59:34.799> doesn't<00:59:35.200> evaluate like, well, Chris Costa doesn’t evaluate like, well, Chris Costa doesn’t evaluate me.<00:59:36.000> This<00:59:36.160> person<00:59:36.480> does.<00:59:36.799> Then<00:59:36.960> it's<00:59:37.200> like<00:59:37.599> I me. This person does. Then it’s like I me. This person does. Then it’s like I have<00:59:37.920> to<00:59:38.000> try<00:59:38.160> to<00:59:38.319> figure<00:59:38.480> out<00:59:38.559> how<00:59:38.720> to have to try to figure out how to have to try to figure out how to separate<00:59:39.280> them.<00:59:39.599> So,<00:59:39.760> it<00:59:39.839> end<00:59:40.000> up<00:59:40.160> being<00:59:40.480> it separate them. So, it end up being it separate them. So, it end up being it sounds<00:59:41.040> really<00:59:41.200> simple,<00:59:41.440> but<00:59:41.599> it<00:59:41.920> be<00:59:42.000> a<00:59:42.160> lot sounds really simple, but it be a lot sounds really simple, but it be a lot more<00:59:42.480> complicated<00:59:43.040> because<00:59:43.520> well,<00:59:43.680> I<00:59:43.839> didn't more complicated because well, I didn’t more complicated because well, I didn’t answer<00:59:44.319> that<00:59:44.480> that<00:59:44.720> part<00:59:44.799> of<00:59:44.960> the<00:59:45.040> survey answer that that part of the survey answer that that part of the survey because<00:59:45.520> he's<00:59:45.680> not<00:59:45.839> my<00:59:46.000> evaluator.<00:59:46.640> I<00:59:46.799> can because he’s not my evaluator. I can because he’s not my evaluator. I can answer<00:59:47.119> this<00:59:47.359> other<00:59:47.599> part,<00:59:47.680> but<00:59:47.839> I<00:59:48.000> can<00:59:48.160> answer answer this other part, but I can answer answer this other part, but I can answer this<00:59:48.480> part.<00:59:48.880> So,<00:59:49.119> it's<00:59:49.359> also<00:59:49.599> how<00:59:49.760> you<00:59:49.920> ask<00:59:50.160> the this part. So, it’s also how you ask the this part. So, it’s also how you ask the survey. survey. survey. Are<00:59:52.000> there<00:59:52.160> other<00:59:52.480> ways<00:59:53.280> to<00:59:53.680> we<00:59:53.839> may<00:59:54.000> not<00:59:54.160> be Are there other ways to we may not be Are there other ways to we may not be there<00:59:54.480> yet<00:59:54.720> but<00:59:54.880> to<00:59:55.440> have<00:59:55.680> actual there yet but to have actual there yet but to have actual conversations<00:59:56.960> whether<00:59:57.200> it's conversations whether it’s conversations whether it’s style<00:59:59.200> or style or style or » we<00:59:59.920> can<01:00:00.319> again<01:00:00.640> it's<01:00:00.880> just<01:00:01.040> I<01:00:01.359> think<01:00:02.079> this » we can again it’s just I think this » we can again it’s just I think this union<01:00:03.040> is<01:00:03.440> very<01:00:04.480> um<01:00:05.440> I<01:00:05.680> think<01:00:05.920> we<01:00:06.079> lucky<01:00:06.480> to<01:00:06.720> do union is very um I think we lucky to do union is very um I think we lucky to do that<01:00:07.200> because that because that because they<01:00:09.040> use<01:00:09.200> the<01:00:09.359> word<01:00:09.680> right<01:00:10.559> a<01:00:10.720> lot<01:00:10.880> here they use the word right a lot here they use the word right a lot here » I<01:00:13.359> think<01:00:13.599> anytime

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1:00:39 you ever done and that might be a way to you ever done and that might be a way to just<01:00:39.520> hear<01:00:40.480> kind<01:00:40.720> of just hear kind of just hear kind of » yeah<01:00:41.920> it's<01:00:42.720> yeah<01:00:43.040> I<01:00:43.359> haven't<01:00:43.760> and<01:00:44.079> I<01:00:44.319> haven't » yeah it’s yeah I haven’t and I haven’t » yeah it’s yeah I haven’t and I haven’t done<01:00:44.640> so<01:00:44.880> purposely<01:00:45.280> because<01:00:45.440> those<01:00:45.680> are<01:00:45.760> the done so purposely because those are the done so purposely because those are the the<01:00:46.400> pretty<01:00:46.640> sacred<01:00:47.280> principles<01:00:47.599> and<01:00:47.839> the the pretty sacred principles and the the pretty sacred principles and the thing<01:00:48.079> is<01:00:48.319> and<01:00:48.559> then<01:00:48.720> super thing is and then super thing is and then super it’s<01:00:50.960> almost<01:00:51.200> like it’s almost like it’s almost like » any<01:00:52.400> of<01:00:52.559> those<01:00:52.720> kind<01:00:52.880> of<01:00:52.960> forms<01:00:53.280> for<01:00:53.440> me<01:00:53.599> to » any of those kind of forms for me to » any of those kind of forms for me to walk<01:00:54.000> into<01:00:54.400> almost<01:00:54.799> has<01:00:54.880> to<01:00:55.040> be walk into almost has to be walk into almost has to be set set set I’m<01:00:59.920> not<01:01:00.079> I'm<01:01:00.240> not<01:01:00.400> opposed<01:01:00.880> to<01:01:01.760> it's<01:01:01.920> just I’m not I’m not opposed to it’s just I’m not I’m not opposed to it’s just sometimes<01:01:04.559> like<01:01:04.720> I<01:01:04.799> used<01:01:04.880> to<01:01:05.040> go<01:01:05.200> like<01:01:05.440> hey<01:01:05.920> via sometimes like I used to go like hey via sometimes like I used to go like hey via [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] such<01:01:06.799> a<01:01:06.960> school<01:01:07.119> from<01:01:07.200> the<01:01:07.359> sun<01:01:07.920> come<01:01:08.079> down such a school from the sun come down such a school from the sun come down here’s<01:01:08.799> a<01:01:08.960> topic<01:01:09.200> or<01:01:09.440> two<01:01:09.599> we<01:01:09.760> can<01:01:09.920> talk<01:01:10.079> about here’s a topic or two we can talk about here’s a topic or two we can talk about and<01:01:10.799> you<01:01:10.880> go<01:01:11.040> to<01:01:11.119> one<01:01:11.280> school<01:01:11.520> you<01:01:11.599> have<01:01:11.760> 30 and you go to one school you have 30 and you go to one school you have 30 people<01:01:12.079> show<01:01:12.240> up<01:01:12.319> and<01:01:12.480> you<01:01:12.559> go<01:01:12.640> to<01:01:12.720> another people show up and you go to another people show up and you go to another school<01:01:13.200> and<01:01:13.280> no<01:01:13.440> one<01:01:13.599> shows<01:01:13.760> up<01:01:13.920> from<01:01:14.079> the school and no one shows up from the school and no one shows up from the other<01:01:14.400> school<01:01:15.040> shows<01:01:15.200> up<01:01:15.680> it's<01:01:15.839> like<01:01:16.160> it's other school shows up it’s like it’s other school shows up it’s like it’s just<01:01:16.640> weird<01:01:16.880> it's<01:01:17.119> just<01:01:17.440> some<01:01:17.599> people<01:01:17.920> don't just weird it’s just some people don’t just weird it’s just some people don’t feel<01:01:18.400> comfortable<01:01:18.720> doing<01:01:18.960> that<01:01:19.200> and feel comfortable doing that and feel comfortable doing that and especially<01:01:19.760> to<01:01:19.920> talk<01:01:20.079> about<01:01:20.240> their especially to talk about their especially to talk about their supervisors supervisors supervisors » when<01:01:23.680> you've<01:01:23.839> done<01:01:24.079> surveys<01:01:24.480> in<01:01:24.640> the<01:01:24.720> past

1:01:24 » when you’ve done surveys in the past » when you’ve done surveys in the past have<01:01:25.119> you<01:01:25.280> administered<01:01:25.839> them<01:01:26.079> like<01:01:26.319> yourself have you administered them like yourself have you administered them like yourself through<01:01:26.960> your<01:01:27.200> district<01:01:27.440> or<01:01:27.760> have<01:01:27.920> you<01:01:28.160> used through your district or have you used through your district or have you used outside<01:01:30.160> vendors outside vendors outside vendors » um<01:01:30.960> so<01:01:31.520> I<01:01:31.839> used<01:01:32.079> Panorama<01:01:32.880> at<01:01:33.119> one<01:01:33.359> point<01:01:33.839> um » um so I used Panorama at one point um » um so I used Panorama at one point um and<01:01:34.160> then<01:01:34.319> what<01:01:34.559> I<01:01:34.720> did<01:01:34.799> was<01:01:34.960> I<01:01:35.280> stole<01:01:35.520> all and then what I did was I stole all and then what I did was I stole all their<01:01:35.920> questions<01:01:36.240> and<01:01:36.559> so<01:01:36.720> I<01:01:36.880> didn't<01:01:37.040> have<01:01:37.119> to their questions and so I didn’t have to their questions and so I didn’t have to pay<01:01:37.440> for<01:01:37.599> them<01:01:37.760> and<01:01:37.920> then<01:01:38.079> I<01:01:38.240> just<01:01:38.640> myself pay for them and then I just myself pay for them and then I just myself didn’t<01:01:40.400> expect<01:01:40.720> that<01:01:40.960> they<01:01:41.520> go didn’t expect that they go didn’t expect that they go but<01:01:43.680> uh<01:01:44.400> he<01:01:44.559> asked<01:01:45.359> the<01:01:45.680> good<01:01:45.839> thing<01:01:45.920> with<01:01:46.160> them but uh he asked the good thing with them but uh he asked the good thing with them is is is they’ve<01:01:48.960> double » I wonder sometimes if it’s an outside » I wonder sometimes if it’s an outside organization organization organization employees<01:01:58.319> not<01:01:58.559> always<01:01:58.880> but<01:01:59.200> sometimes<01:01:59.599> feel employees not always but sometimes feel employees not always but sometimes feel a<01:02:00.079> little<01:02:00.160> more<01:02:00.400> like<01:02:00.559> it<01:02:00.799> really<01:02:01.040> is<01:02:01.200> a<01:02:01.359> little a little more like it really is a little a little more like it really is a little there there there if<01:02:03.680> you<01:02:03.760> don't<01:02:03.839> get<01:02:03.920> the<01:02:04.079> raw<01:02:04.319> data

1:02:11 be a first step. You want you also could be a first step. You want you also could ask<01:02:12.400> what<01:02:12.799> they<01:02:13.839> would ask what they would ask what they would » have<01:02:16.559> at<01:02:16.720> it » have at it » have at it » or<01:02:19.760> they<01:02:20.000> can<01:02:20.160> go<01:02:20.240> back<01:02:20.400> to<01:02:20.559> the<01:02:21.040> the » or they can go back to the the » or they can go back to the the membership. One thing that I think we’re going to One thing that I think we’re going to have<01:02:26.880> to<01:02:27.119> be<01:02:27.359> careful<01:02:27.680> of<01:02:28.000> when<01:02:28.240> we're have to be careful of when we’re have to be careful of when we’re evaluating<01:02:29.280> skull<01:02:29.599> is<01:02:29.839> that evaluating skull is that evaluating skull is that » one<01:02:31.119> way<01:02:31.280> that<01:02:31.520> you're<01:02:31.839> measuring<01:02:32.160> it<01:02:32.400> is<01:02:32.640> with » one way that you’re measuring it is with » one way that you’re measuring it is with your<01:02:33.680> evaluation<01:02:34.240> of<01:02:34.480> your<01:02:34.720> principles.<01:02:35.680> And your evaluation of your principles. And your evaluation of your principles. And I<01:02:36.960> don't<01:02:37.119> know<01:02:37.280> if<01:02:37.440> this<01:02:38.319> if<01:02:38.559> this<01:02:38.880> would<01:02:39.280> alter I don’t know if this if this would alter I don’t know if this if this would alter the<01:02:39.839> way<01:02:40.000> you<01:02:40.240> write<01:02:40.960> how<01:02:41.280> you're<01:02:42.160> evaluated, the way you write how you’re evaluated, the way you write how you’re evaluated, but<01:02:43.280> we<01:02:43.440> obviously<01:02:43.920> don't<01:02:44.079> want<01:02:44.240> to<01:02:44.400> be but we obviously don’t want to be but we obviously don’t want to be » and<01:02:46.400> we<01:02:46.640> don't<01:02:46.720> want<01:02:46.799> to<01:02:46.960> be<01:02:47.200> evaluating » and we don’t want to be evaluating » and we don’t want to be evaluating principles<01:02:48.319> through<01:02:49.040> your<01:02:49.440> evaluation,<01:02:50.160> you principles through your evaluation, you principles through your evaluation, you know. know. know. » No,<01:02:50.799> I<01:02:51.040> think<01:02:51.119> that<01:02:51.359> just,<01:02:51.599> you<01:02:51.680> know,<01:02:51.760> when » No, I think that just, you know, when » No, I think that just, you know, when when<01:02:52.240> I<01:02:52.400> have<01:02:52.559> to<01:02:52.960> Yeah.<01:02:53.200> I<01:02:53.520> mean,<01:02:54.160> yeah,<01:02:54.799> you when I have to Yeah. I mean, yeah, you when I have to Yeah. I mean, yeah, you know,<01:02:55.200> I<01:02:55.440> see<01:02:55.680> I<01:02:55.920> see<01:02:56.000> that.<01:02:56.240> I<01:02:56.319> mean,<01:02:56.880> simply,

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1:03:06 but I can’t say how. but I can’t say how. » Well,<01:03:06.880> that<01:03:07.040> would<01:03:07.200> I<01:03:07.359> mean,<01:03:07.520> we've<01:03:07.839> had » Well, that would I mean, we’ve had » Well, that would I mean, we’ve had superintendent<01:03:08.559> best<01:03:08.720> who<01:03:08.880> have<01:03:09.040> not superintendent best who have not superintendent best who have not evaluated.

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1:04:00 confirming trust you that you did the confirming trust you that you did the evaluation.<01:04:00.640> So,<01:04:00.880> like<01:04:00.960> I<01:04:01.119> said,<01:04:01.280> we<01:04:01.680> had evaluation. So, like I said, we had evaluation. So, like I said, we had super<01:04:03.599> do.<01:04:04.160> So,<01:04:04.480> just<01:04:05.520> informing<01:04:06.000> us<01:04:06.160> that super do. So, just informing us that super do. So, just informing us that you’ve<01:04:06.559> done<01:04:06.720> that<01:04:06.960> and<01:04:07.440> if<01:04:07.680> you<01:04:07.839> didn't,<01:04:08.160> then you’ve done that and if you didn’t, then you’ve done that and if you didn’t, then we’d<01:04:08.640> probably<01:04:09.039> end<01:04:09.280> up<01:04:09.440> finding<01:04:09.760> out.<01:04:10.160> Yeah, we’d probably end up finding out. Yeah, we’d probably end up finding out. Yeah, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] you<01:04:12.559> listed<01:04:13.280> principal<01:04:13.680> evaluation<01:04:14.400> in<01:04:14.640> in you listed principal evaluation in in you listed principal evaluation in in the<01:04:15.119> section<01:04:15.359> where<01:04:15.599> you're<01:04:15.920> measuring<01:04:16.240> the the section where you’re measuring the the section where you’re measuring the goal,<01:04:16.640> not<01:04:16.880> where<01:04:17.039> we're<01:04:17.280> evaluating<01:04:17.839> the goal, not where we’re evaluating the goal, not where we’re evaluating the goal.<01:04:18.319> But<01:04:18.480> I<01:04:18.640> just<01:04:18.799> wanted<01:04:18.960> to<01:04:19.119> point<01:04:19.520> out goal. But I just wanted to point out goal. But I just wanted to point out that<01:04:21.119> when<01:04:21.440> we're<01:04:22.000> when<01:04:22.319> we're<01:04:22.559> doing<01:04:22.720> this, that when we’re when we’re doing this, that when we’re when we’re doing this, we<01:04:23.280> we<01:04:23.520> want<01:04:23.599> to<01:04:23.839> just<01:04:24.079> be<01:04:24.240> sure<01:04:24.480> that<01:04:25.520> we're we we want to just be sure that we’re we we want to just be sure that we’re not not not » yeah<01:04:28.000> overstepping<01:04:28.640> any » yeah overstepping any » yeah overstepping any » and<01:04:29.920> also<01:04:30.720> it<01:04:30.960> also<01:04:31.359> will<01:04:31.680> lend<01:04:32.000> to<01:04:32.880> um<01:04:34.160> you » and also it also will lend to um you » and also it also will lend to um you know<01:04:34.880> like<01:04:35.119> professional<01:04:35.599> development<01:04:36.000> for know like professional development for know like professional development for your<01:04:36.960> principles.<01:04:37.440> I<01:04:37.599> would<01:04:37.760> assume<01:04:37.920> in<01:04:38.160> the your principles. I would assume in the your principles. I would assume in the evaluation<01:04:38.720> process<01:04:38.960> you<01:04:39.200> talk<01:04:39.359> you<01:04:39.520> talk<01:04:39.680> to evaluation process you talk you talk to evaluation process you talk you talk to principal<01:04:40.079> so<01:04:40.319> what<01:04:40.480> their<01:04:40.640> goals<01:04:40.880> are<01:04:41.359> you principal so what their goals are you principal so what their goals are you know<01:04:41.599> do<01:04:41.760> they<01:04:42.000> want<01:04:42.079> to<01:04:42.240> be<01:04:42.319> a<01:04:42.480> superendent<01:04:43.280> or know do they want to be a superendent or know do they want to be a superendent or assistant<01:04:43.839> superintendent<01:04:44.480> and<01:04:44.640> that<01:04:44.799> gives assistant superintendent and that gives assistant superintendent and that gives you<01:04:45.119> your<01:04:45.359> bench

1:04:47 you your bench you your bench [laughter] » you never » you never or<01:04:52.400> you<01:04:52.559> know<01:04:52.720> want<01:04:52.880> to<01:04:53.039> be<01:04:53.200> a<01:04:53.359> principal<01:04:53.680> in<01:04:53.920> a or you know want to be a principal in a or you know want to be a principal in a different<01:04:54.240> building<01:04:54.640> or<01:04:55.200> whatever<01:04:55.440> it<01:04:55.599> is<01:04:56.319> um different building or whatever it is um different building or whatever it is um it<01:04:56.960> gives<01:04:57.200> you<01:04:58.000> you<01:04:58.160> know<01:04:58.480> that<01:04:59.280> that<01:04:59.680> makes it gives you you know that that makes it gives you you know that that makes them<01:05:00.640> feel<01:05:01.119> I'm<01:05:01.280> sure<01:05:01.680> that<01:05:01.760> that<01:05:01.920> they're them feel I’m sure that that they’re them feel I’m sure that that they’re being<01:05:02.319> invested<01:05:02.720> in being invested in being invested in » Yeah<01:05:03.520> it's<01:05:03.680> good<01:05:03.920> and<01:05:04.319> it<01:05:04.480> gives<01:05:04.640> them<01:05:04.799> the » Yeah it’s good and it gives them the » Yeah it’s good and it gives them the ability<01:05:05.280> to<01:05:05.520> say<01:05:05.680> hey<01:05:06.079> you<01:05:06.160> know<01:05:06.240> I'm<01:05:06.319> an ability to say hey you know I’m an ability to say hey you know I’m an elementary<01:05:06.880> principal<01:05:07.359> a<01:05:07.599> second. elementary principal a second. elementary principal a second. » How<01:05:09.200> do<01:05:09.359> I<01:05:09.440> do<01:05:09.520> that? » How do I do that? » How do I do that? » Or<01:05:10.160> vice<01:05:10.400> versa. » Or vice versa. » Or vice versa. » And<01:05:11.839> same<01:05:11.920> with<01:05:12.079> the<01:05:12.240> assistant.<01:05:12.640> Do<01:05:12.720> you » And same with the assistant. Do you » And same with the assistant. Do you evaluate<01:05:13.119> the<01:05:13.280> assistant<01:05:13.520> princip? evaluate the assistant princip? evaluate the assistant princip? » The<01:05:14.480> principles<01:05:14.880> do. » The principles do. » The principles do. » Yeah.<01:05:16.000> I<01:05:16.160> do<01:05:16.319> all<01:05:16.400> the<01:05:16.559> principles<01:05:17.039> I » Yeah. I do all the principles I » Yeah. I do all the principles I everybody<01:05:18.240> here everybody here everybody here » but<01:05:19.200> you<01:05:19.440> ensure<01:05:20.240> that<01:05:20.400> the<01:05:20.559> principles<01:05:20.960> have » but you ensure that the principles have » but you ensure that the principles have evaluated<01:05:21.599> these<01:05:21.760> system<01:05:22.079> reps<01:05:22.400> like<01:05:22.559> there's evaluated these system reps like there’s evaluated these system reps like there’s a<01:05:23.440> again<01:05:23.920> I<01:05:25.119> always<01:05:26.000> report<01:05:27.359> them<01:05:27.599> all a again I always report them all a again I always report them all and<01:05:30.480> then<01:05:30.720> when

1:05:33 and then when and then when I<01:05:33.359> generally<01:05:33.680> do<01:05:34.240> when<01:05:34.400> they I generally do when they I generally do when they do<01:05:37.039> when<01:05:37.200> the<01:05:37.359> evaluation<01:05:38.160> done and it’s it’s hard here because I don’t and it’s it’s hard here because I don’t know<01:05:42.960> everybody<01:05:43.680> but<01:05:43.760> in<01:05:43.839> my<01:05:44.000> previous<01:05:44.640> I know everybody but in my previous I know everybody but in my previous I think<01:05:44.880> all<01:05:44.960> the<01:05:45.119> teachers<01:05:45.359> so<01:05:45.520> when<01:05:45.839> saw think all the teachers so when saw think all the teachers so when saw someone<01:05:46.640> like<01:05:46.960> exemplary<01:05:47.440> I'm<01:05:47.680> like<01:05:48.400> that someone like exemplary I’m like that someone like exemplary I’m like that doesn’t<01:05:48.799> really<01:05:49.039> match<01:05:49.200> up<01:05:49.359> with<01:05:49.520> what<01:05:49.680> I<01:05:49.839> know doesn’t really match up with what I know doesn’t really match up with what I know about<01:05:50.079> that<01:05:50.319> teacher<01:05:50.720> I<01:05:50.799> can<01:05:50.960> have<01:05:51.119> this about that teacher I can have this about that teacher I can have this conversation<01:05:52.079> you<01:05:52.160> know conversation you know conversation you know so<01:05:54.160> they<01:05:54.640> definitely so they definitely so they definitely now<01:05:57.039> so<01:05:57.440> until<01:05:57.680> I<01:05:57.920> get<01:05:58.160> some<01:05:58.559> people<01:05:58.799> better now so until I get some people better now so until I get some people better that’s<01:06:00.480> kind<01:06:00.640> of that’s kind of that’s kind of we’ve<01:06:02.480> done<01:06:02.640> the<01:06:02.799> evaluation<01:06:03.280> I<01:06:03.359> defin<01:06:04.559> have we’ve done the evaluation I defin have we’ve done the evaluation I defin have been<01:06:04.799> a<01:06:04.960> couple<01:06:05.200> this<01:06:05.359> year<01:06:05.599> and<01:06:05.680> then<01:06:06.079> already been a couple this year and then already been a couple this year and then already evaluations<01:06:09.280> in evaluations in evaluations in » just<01:06:12.160> going » just going » just going same<01:06:14.559> with<01:06:14.799> at<01:06:15.039> all<01:06:15.200> levels<01:06:15.359> Those same with at all levels Those same with at all levels Those evaluations<01:06:17.119> need<01:06:17.280> to<01:06:17.440> be

1:06:18 evaluations need to be evaluations need to be » I<01:06:18.640> think<01:06:18.799> and<01:06:18.960> I<01:06:19.119> think<01:06:19.200> what<01:06:19.359> happens<01:06:19.760> is » I think and I think what happens is » I think and I think what happens is » I<01:06:21.280> think<01:06:21.359> what<01:06:21.599> happens<01:06:21.920> is<01:06:22.480> human<01:06:22.799> nature » I think what happens is human nature » I think what happens is human nature kind<01:06:23.359> of<01:06:23.440> stuff<01:06:23.680> gets<01:06:23.839> in<01:06:24.000> the<01:06:24.160> way<01:06:24.240> of<01:06:24.400> a<01:06:24.559> lot kind of stuff gets in the way of a lot kind of stuff gets in the way of a lot of<01:06:24.799> evaluative<01:06:25.599> stuff<01:06:25.839> that<01:06:26.160> I<01:06:26.480> don't of evaluative stuff that I don’t of evaluative stuff that I don’t » like<01:06:28.880> this<01:06:29.039> teacher<01:06:29.359> so<01:06:30.400> instead<01:06:30.720> of<01:06:30.799> saying<01:06:31.039> I » like this teacher so instead of saying I » like this teacher so instead of saying I really<01:06:31.520> see<01:06:31.760> your<01:06:31.920> thought<01:06:32.240> they'll<01:06:32.799> teach really see your thought they’ll teach really see your thought they’ll teach that<01:06:34.799> vice<01:06:35.039> versa<01:06:35.520> and<01:06:36.240> that's<01:06:36.640> difficult<01:06:37.520> um that vice versa and that’s difficult um that vice versa and that’s difficult um I<01:06:38.079> don't<01:06:38.240> have<01:06:38.400> that<01:06:38.640> problem<01:06:38.960> with

1:06:47 Do you do you know like do a lot of Do you do you know like do a lot of districts<01:06:48.319> have<01:06:48.720> 360deree<01:06:49.920> feedback districts have 360deree feedback districts have 360deree feedback mechanisms<01:06:51.039> in<01:06:51.280> place mechanisms in place mechanisms in place » with<01:06:53.280> peer<01:06:53.680> feedback? » with peer feedback? » with peer feedback? » Oh<01:06:54.480> yeah.<01:06:55.440> Well » Oh yeah. Well » Oh yeah. Well yeah<01:06:57.359> usually<01:06:57.760> yeah<01:06:58.000> you<01:06:58.240> yeah<01:06:58.480> it<01:06:58.640> can<01:06:58.799> be yeah usually yeah you yeah it can be yeah usually yeah you yeah it can be either<01:06:59.119> but<01:06:59.359> usually<01:06:59.680> in<01:06:59.839> this<01:06:59.920> case<01:07:00.079> I<01:07:00.319> think either but usually in this case I think either but usually in this case I think you<01:07:00.799> know<01:07:01.039> it<01:07:01.359> sounds<01:07:01.599> like<01:07:01.760> we're<01:07:02.160> talking<01:07:02.400> a you know it sounds like we’re talking a you know it sounds like we’re talking a little<01:07:02.720> bit<01:07:02.880> about<01:07:03.599> how<01:07:03.760> do<01:07:03.920> we<01:07:04.079> evaluate<01:07:04.799> kind little bit about how do we evaluate kind little bit about how do we evaluate kind of<01:07:05.200> central<01:07:05.520> administration<01:07:06.480> yourself<01:07:07.039> but of central administration yourself but of central administration yourself but whether<01:07:07.599> it's<01:07:07.760> assistant<01:07:08.160> principles whether it’s assistant principles whether it’s assistant principles principles<01:07:09.440> and<01:07:10.400> you<01:07:10.480> know<01:07:10.640> you<01:07:10.799> and<01:07:10.960> your principles and you know you and your principles and you know you and your staff. staff. staff. » Yeah.<01:07:12.319> Um<01:07:13.440> that<01:07:13.680> would<01:07:13.760> be<01:07:13.920> a<01:07:14.079> very » Yeah. Um that would be a very » Yeah. Um that would be a very quantifiable<01:07:14.880> way<01:07:15.039> to<01:07:15.200> know<01:07:16.240> if<01:07:16.480> you're quantifiable way to know if you’re quantifiable way to know if you’re making<01:07:17.200> you<01:07:17.359> know<01:07:17.920> I<01:07:18.160> know<01:07:18.240> for<01:07:18.400> a<01:07:18.480> while<01:07:18.640> it making you know I know for a while it making you know I know for a while it was<01:07:18.960> in<01:07:19.359> you<01:07:19.440> know<01:07:19.599> it's<01:07:19.760> kind<01:07:19.839> of<01:07:19.920> interesting was in you know it’s kind of interesting was in you know it’s kind of interesting I<01:07:20.400> don't<01:07:20.480> know<01:07:20.559> what<01:07:20.640> the<01:07:20.799> latest<01:07:21.039> HR<01:07:21.440> trends I don’t know what the latest HR trends I don’t know what the latest HR trends are<01:07:22.000> right<01:07:22.160> for<01:07:22.319> I<01:07:22.480> know<01:07:22.640> many<01:07:22.880> years<01:07:23.039> ago<01:07:23.200> it are right for I know many years ago it are right for I know many years ago it was<01:07:23.520> oh<01:07:23.760> you<01:07:23.920> need<01:07:24.000> to<01:07:24.079> do<01:07:24.240> 360<01:07:24.559> you're<01:07:24.799> not was oh you need to do 360 you’re not was oh you need to do 360 you’re not doing<01:07:25.119> 360deree<01:07:25.920> feedback doing 360deree feedback doing 360deree feedback » yeah<01:07:28.160> how<01:07:28.319> do<01:07:28.400> you<01:07:28.559> really<01:07:28.799> know<01:07:29.119> like<01:07:29.359> you're » yeah how do you really know like you’re » yeah how do you really know like you’re we’re<01:07:29.839> evaluating<01:07:30.319> you<01:07:30.640> John<01:07:30.880> and<01:07:31.039> if<01:07:31.119> we we’re evaluating you John and if we we’re evaluating you John and if we didn’t<01:07:31.440> talk<01:07:31.599> to<01:07:31.760> principles<01:07:32.160> how<01:07:32.319> do<01:07:32.400> we<01:07:32.640> you didn’t talk to principles how do we you didn’t talk to principles how do we you know<01:07:33.520> we<01:07:33.680> know<01:07:33.839> what<01:07:34.000> we<01:07:34.160> know<01:07:34.400> but<01:07:34.960> there's

1:07:35 know we know what we know but there’s know we know what we know but there’s more<01:07:35.599> you<01:07:35.680> know<01:07:35.760> you<01:07:36.000> do<01:07:36.160> more<01:07:36.319> than<01:07:36.480> that<01:07:37.280> so more you know you do more than that so more you know you do more than that so I’m<01:07:37.760> just<01:07:37.920> curious<01:07:38.240> this<01:07:38.559> sounds<01:07:38.880> like<01:07:39.039> we're I’m just curious this sounds like we’re I’m just curious this sounds like we’re talking<01:07:39.680> about<01:07:40.000> should<01:07:40.240> we<01:07:40.480> look<01:07:40.640> at<01:07:40.880> maybe talking about should we look at maybe talking about should we look at maybe having<01:07:41.440> a<01:07:41.680> 360<01:07:42.240> degree<01:07:42.559> process.<01:07:43.039> I<01:07:43.200> think<01:07:43.280> it having a 360 degree process. I think it having a 360 degree process. I think it depends<01:07:43.680> on depends on depends on » evaluation<01:07:44.799> process » evaluation process » evaluation process » like<01:07:46.160> I<01:07:46.319> think<01:07:46.640> principles<01:07:47.200> will<01:07:47.440> generally » like I think principles will generally » like I think principles will generally you<01:07:47.920> know<01:07:48.079> between<01:07:48.400> their<01:07:48.720> you<01:07:48.880> know<01:07:49.039> their you know between their you know their you know between their you know their faculty<01:07:50.079> meetings<01:07:50.400> and<01:07:51.039> PLC's<01:07:51.839> and<01:07:52.480> you<01:07:52.640> know faculty meetings and PLC’s and you know faculty meetings and PLC’s and you know grade<01:07:53.039> level<01:07:53.359> stuff<01:07:53.680> they<01:07:54.079> they<01:07:54.480> can<01:07:54.720> kind<01:07:54.880> of grade level stuff they they can kind of grade level stuff they they can kind of see<01:07:55.200> what's<01:07:55.760> what<01:07:56.000> the<01:07:56.160> interactions<01:07:56.640> between see what’s what the interactions between see what’s what the interactions between all<01:07:57.359> all<01:07:57.520> the<01:07:57.680> teachers<01:07:58.000> are<01:07:58.079> and<01:07:58.240> they<01:07:58.400> can all all the teachers are and they can all all the teachers are and they can see<01:07:58.720> where<01:07:59.680> um<01:08:01.119> we<01:08:01.200> need<01:08:01.359> some<01:08:01.520> extra<01:08:01.839> supports see where um we need some extra supports see where um we need some extra supports and<01:08:02.240> we<01:08:02.319> have<01:08:02.400> the<01:08:02.480> mentor<01:08:02.880> program<01:08:03.119> so and we have the mentor program so and we have the mentor program so there’s<01:08:03.440> a<01:08:03.520> lot<01:08:03.599> of<01:08:03.680> that<01:08:03.920> you<01:08:04.000> know<01:08:04.160> there's<01:08:04.319> a there’s a lot of that you know there’s a there’s a lot of that you know there’s a lot<01:08:04.559> of<01:08:04.640> that<01:08:05.280> you<01:08:05.440> know<01:08:05.599> obviously<01:08:05.839> we<01:08:06.000> want lot of that you know obviously we want lot of that you know obviously we want you<01:08:06.319> to<01:08:06.720> evaluate<01:08:07.440> because<01:08:07.680> a<01:08:07.760> lot<01:08:07.920> of<01:08:08.000> that you to evaluate because a lot of that you to evaluate because a lot of that supports<01:08:08.720> those<01:08:08.960> support<01:08:09.200> systems<01:08:09.680> are<01:08:09.839> in supports those support systems are in supports those support systems are in place<01:08:10.240> to<01:08:10.480> kind<01:08:10.640> of<01:08:10.880> you<01:08:11.039> know<01:08:11.200> and<01:08:11.440> then<01:08:11.599> the place to kind of you know and then the place to kind of you know and then the principles<01:08:12.319> should<01:08:12.640> really<01:08:13.280> look<01:08:13.520> into<01:08:13.920> that principles should really look into that principles should really look into that and<01:08:14.240> say,<01:08:14.400> "Hey,<01:08:14.640> it's,<01:08:14.960> you<01:08:15.119> know,<01:08:15.280> you're and say, “Hey, it’s, you know, you’re and say, “Hey, it’s, you know, you’re the<01:08:15.680> mentor<01:08:15.920> of<01:08:16.239> Ken<01:08:16.719> and<01:08:16.960> how's<01:08:17.120> she<01:08:17.359> doing?" the mentor of Ken and how’s she doing?” the mentor of Ken and how’s she doing?” Blah,<01:08:17.920> blah,<01:08:18.080> blah.<01:08:18.400> They<01:08:18.640> found<01:08:18.880> those Blah, blah, blah. They found those Blah, blah, blah. They found those conversations.<01:08:19.679> They<01:08:19.920> can't<01:08:20.159> just<01:08:20.319> be<01:08:20.480> like,

1:08:20 conversations. They can’t just be like, conversations. They can’t just be like, “I<01:08:21.120> would<01:08:21.279> evaluate<01:08:21.759> her<01:08:21.920> this<01:08:22.159> way." “I would evaluate her this way.” “I would evaluate her this way.” So<01:08:23.600> things<01:08:23.839> didn't<01:08:24.640> go<01:08:25.040> Oh,

1:11:45 Okay, there we go. Okay, there we go. » So,<01:11:46.159> looking<01:11:46.400> at<01:11:46.560> the<01:11:46.719> professional<01:11:47.199> practice » So, looking at the professional practice » So, looking at the professional practice goal,<01:11:48.000> um, goal, um, goal, um, » wait,<01:11:48.400> can<01:11:48.560> I<01:11:48.640> just<01:11:48.719> say<01:11:49.280> one<01:11:49.440> more<01:11:49.600> comment? » wait, can I just say one more comment? » wait, can I just say one more comment? » Yeah.<01:11:50.000> Yeah.<01:11:50.640> um<01:11:51.520> that<01:11:52.159> and<01:11:52.480> you<01:11:52.640> know<01:11:52.800> Melissa » Yeah. Yeah. um that and you know Melissa » Yeah. Yeah. um that and you know Melissa and<01:11:53.520> you<01:11:53.840> whatever<01:11:54.239> and<01:11:54.400> Henry<01:11:54.880> you<01:11:55.120> might and you whatever and Henry you might and you whatever and Henry you might agree<01:11:55.679> with<01:11:55.840> this<01:11:56.080> but<01:11:56.320> your<01:11:56.640> comment<01:11:57.040> about agree with this but your comment about agree with this but your comment about how<01:11:59.040> you<01:11:59.199> know<01:11:59.440> particularly<01:11:59.840> building how you know particularly building how you know particularly building building<01:12:00.960> leaders<01:12:01.520> are<01:12:01.920> you<01:12:02.159> get<01:12:02.320> to<01:12:02.480> know building leaders are you get to know building leaders are you get to know people<01:12:02.800> and<01:12:02.960> you<01:12:03.120> feel<01:12:03.280> uncomfortable<01:12:03.760> like people and you feel uncomfortable like people and you feel uncomfortable like to<01:12:04.239> me<01:12:04.480> I've<01:12:04.719> always<01:12:04.880> said<01:12:05.040> this<01:12:05.280> like<01:12:05.440> I<01:12:05.679> come to me I’ve always said this like I come to me I’ve always said this like I come from<01:12:05.920> the<01:12:06.080> corporate<01:12:06.400> world<01:12:06.800> and<01:12:07.600> yeah<01:12:07.840> you from the corporate world and yeah you from the corporate world and yeah you might<01:12:08.159> be<01:12:08.239> friends<01:12:08.480> with<01:12:08.640> people<01:12:08.800> but<01:12:09.120> like might be friends with people but like might be friends with people but like you<01:12:09.679> have<01:12:09.760> a<01:12:10.000> job<01:12:10.320> and<01:12:10.560> this<01:12:10.719> is<01:12:10.880> your<01:12:11.040> job<01:12:11.440> and you have a job and this is your job and you have a job and this is your job and you<01:12:12.000> and<01:12:12.320> it's<01:12:12.560> just<01:12:12.800> that's<01:12:13.120> the<01:12:13.360> that's<01:12:13.760> the you and it’s just that’s the that’s the you and it’s just that’s the that’s the difference<01:12:14.159> between<01:12:14.480> the<01:12:14.640> private<01:12:14.880> sector difference between the private sector difference between the private sector and<01:12:15.280> the<01:12:15.440> and<01:12:15.679> the<01:12:15.840> public<01:12:16.080> sector<01:12:16.400> but<01:12:16.560> I<01:12:16.880> was and the and the public sector but I was and the and the public sector but I was in<01:12:17.679> management<01:12:18.000> for<01:12:18.239> many<01:12:18.480> many<01:12:18.719> years<01:12:18.800> and in management for many many years and in management for many many years and had<01:12:19.440> constant<01:12:20.239> training<01:12:21.120> on<01:12:21.760> how<01:12:22.000> to<01:12:22.159> manage had constant training on how to manage had constant training on how to manage how<01:12:22.880> to<01:12:23.040> manage<01:12:23.360> people,<01:12:23.920> how<01:12:24.080> to<01:12:24.239> performance how to manage people, how to performance how to manage people, how to performance manage<01:12:25.120> people.<01:12:25.760> You<01:12:25.840> know,<01:12:25.920> I<01:12:26.080> was<01:12:26.159> in<01:12:26.320> sales, manage people. You know, I was in sales, manage people. You know, I was in sales, so<01:12:27.600> you<01:12:27.760> know,<01:12:28.000> you're<01:12:28.400> up<01:12:28.640> or<01:12:28.800> you're<01:12:28.960> out. so you know, you’re up or you’re out. so you know, you’re up or you’re out. Um,<01:12:29.840> that's<01:12:30.080> a<01:12:30.239> little<01:12:30.400> more<01:12:30.640> extreme.<01:12:31.520> Um,

1:12:31 Um, that’s a little more extreme. Um, Um, that’s a little more extreme. Um, but<01:12:32.320> I<01:12:32.800> I've<01:12:33.120> always<01:12:33.360> felt<01:12:33.679> in<01:12:33.920> this<01:12:34.080> world,<01:12:34.239> it but I I’ve always felt in this world, it but I I’ve always felt in this world, it isn’t<01:12:34.560> just<01:12:34.719> schools,<01:12:34.960> but<01:12:35.120> it's<01:12:35.280> sort<01:12:35.440> of, isn’t just schools, but it’s sort of, isn’t just schools, but it’s sort of, you<01:12:36.080> know,<01:12:36.239> municipal<01:12:36.719> government<01:12:37.040> in you know, municipal government in you know, municipal government in general<01:12:37.520> that<01:12:37.760> it<01:12:38.000> just<01:12:38.239> kind<01:12:38.400> of<01:12:39.120> and<01:12:39.280> that general that it just kind of and that general that it just kind of and that would<01:12:39.679> be<01:12:39.840> something<01:12:40.080> that,<01:12:40.480> you<01:12:40.640> know,<01:12:40.800> maybe would be something that, you know, maybe would be something that, you know, maybe you<01:12:41.280> want<01:12:41.360> to<01:12:41.520> think<01:12:41.679> about<01:12:41.920> like<01:12:42.080> just<01:12:42.400> some you want to think about like just some you want to think about like just some training<01:12:42.960> because<01:12:43.120> I<01:12:43.360> just<01:12:43.600> don't<01:12:43.840> know<01:12:44.000> that training because I just don’t know that training because I just don’t know that that’s<01:12:44.560> ever that’s ever that’s ever » how<01:12:45.120> to<01:12:45.199> give<01:12:45.440> feedback<01:12:45.920> like<01:12:46.719> how<01:12:46.800> to<01:12:47.120> how<01:12:47.280> to » how to give feedback like how to how to » how to give feedback like how to how to perform<01:12:47.840> how<01:12:48.000> to<01:12:48.080> performance<01:12:48.480> evaluate perform how to performance evaluate perform how to performance evaluate somebody<01:12:49.360> and<01:12:49.520> performance<01:12:50.000> manage somebody and performance manage somebody and performance manage somebody,<01:12:51.199> not<01:12:51.360> just<01:12:51.520> evaluate<01:12:52.719> manage<01:12:52.960> them. somebody, not just evaluate manage them. somebody, not just evaluate manage them. » It’s<01:12:54.159> not<01:12:54.480> and<01:12:54.719> it's<01:12:55.040> not<01:12:55.199> comfortable<01:12:55.920> and » It’s not and it’s not comfortable and » It’s not and it’s not comfortable and you<01:12:56.320> need<01:12:56.480> support. you need support. you need support. » You<01:12:57.360> need<01:12:57.520> HR<01:12:57.920> support.<01:12:58.320> You<01:12:58.480> need,<01:12:58.800> you<01:12:58.960> know, » You need HR support. You need, you know, » You need HR support. You need, you know, um,<01:13:00.239> so<01:13:01.040> There's<01:13:01.360> good<01:13:01.600> trainings<01:13:01.920> on<01:13:02.159> like um, so There’s good trainings on like um, so There’s good trainings on like LinkedIn<01:13:02.880> too<01:13:03.040> that<01:13:03.280> are<01:13:03.440> provided<01:13:03.840> for<01:13:04.080> free LinkedIn too that are provided for free LinkedIn too that are provided for free if<01:13:04.640> that's<01:13:04.880> if<01:13:05.040> that<01:13:05.360> even<01:13:05.600> just<01:13:05.760> looks<01:13:05.920> like if that’s if that even just looks like if that’s if that even just looks like » because<01:13:08.800> once<01:13:09.040> you<01:13:09.199> get<01:13:09.360> comfortable<01:13:09.760> with » because once you get comfortable with » because once you get comfortable with it,<01:13:10.719> you're<01:13:10.960> comfortable. it, you’re comfortable. it, you’re comfortable. » Exactly.<01:13:11.840> Yeah.<01:13:12.080> It<01:13:12.320> takes<01:13:12.480> a<01:13:12.640> while<01:13:12.719> to<01:13:12.880> get » Exactly. Yeah. It takes a while to get » Exactly. Yeah. It takes a while to get to<01:13:13.120> that<01:13:13.360> point. to that point. to that point. » Perhaps<01:13:14.800> also<01:13:15.199> getting<01:13:15.600> teachers<01:13:16.000> helping

1:13:18 » Perhaps also getting teachers helping » Perhaps also getting teachers helping and<01:13:18.800> being<01:13:18.960> managed<01:13:19.520> to<01:13:19.679> take<01:13:19.840> that and being managed to take that and being managed to take that » and<01:13:20.400> being<01:13:20.560> managed.<01:13:21.679> Yeah.<01:13:22.000> Because<01:13:22.159> the » and being managed. Yeah. Because the » and being managed. Yeah. Because the other<01:13:22.400> thing<01:13:22.560> too<01:13:22.719> is<01:13:22.960> that<01:13:23.520> and<01:13:23.760> I<01:13:23.920> haven't other thing too is that and I haven’t other thing too is that and I haven’t Oh, Oh, Oh, » just<01:13:27.040> give<01:13:27.199> me<01:13:27.280> a<01:13:27.440> moment.<01:13:28.320> Reconnecting

1:14:31 Okay. Okay. » Okay.

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