School Committee: June 1, 2023

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2:25 just drop in student achievement when you combine the two cp1 and cp2 levels same thing for 10 and I’m not going to read each of these slides because I’ve had two school committee members asked me to keep it brief this evening but just that you can see the trend is that student achievement does not drop off so we have it for grade 11. you see in 1920 87 10 difference the idea that putting all of the students who struggle in the same class will increase achievement is clearly debunked by the data analysis that Dana might have done you can see in uh College Prep Algebra 1 and geometry the difference in scores that will be this

3:11 year this coming year the combination of cp1 and cp2 any questions

3:21 uh just two questions one is one argument can be made are we teach them to the same standards now once you’ve Blended the tube courses right they were the same same standards and then uh secondly there seems to be a difference in achievement Gap in uh English versus math why is that so historically the cp1 cp2 Gap in English is greater than the Gap that you would see in math is that correct that’s great why just for absolutely there’s no plausible explanation in my mind normally you would see the differential in math as opposed to ELA the difference in scores ours is just factors and is this trend where you see sort of this combination leading to

4:06 leading to leading to similar outcomes something you see across other districts in the North Shore or Massachusetts right yeah as as I said or as Dan said we’re late okay this is what the research is suggesting is best practice for quite some time in practice and that Ela math piece is interesting because I believe in MCAS are Ela scores are higher compared to the state than our than where our math scores come out at so it’s fascinating

4:45 um student enrollment uh by grade and by subjects there is a narrative in the community that we have a ten to one student teacher ratio which is on the deci website because I take you through this you’re not going to find an average class size of 10 anywhere K-12 in our district one of the first things we do this is a slide that you’ve seen before when we do the budget uh process is look at enrollment and so this year our enrollment is 2563 as principals look at their schools and transition points fourth grade eighth grade um we’re anticipating 2562 so almost no difference in enrollment for next year

5:30 but another slide that you have said seeing every year that I have been superintendent the head count in the district has gone down even in our level of services budget we’re looking at four fewer head count when we have an enrollment that is going to remain the same and this year for the last three years our enrollment has been fairly steady with this year the enrollment actually going up um drucky those numbers you just had on um

6:08 oh it’s you okay that’s fun prank um were the ones we presented throughout the budget process how often to update those for your internal data and are we still on target yes so that’s an excellent question um actually the school committee and the leadership team get an enrollment update every Monday morning and we’re now going to start making that publicly available so people will have that data

6:34 maybe we could go back to two two questions that I heard last week at the league of women’s voters there was a member of the audience who talked about a 20 decline in enrollment and I said it’s just not true in the last three four years have shown basically a stable enrollment and I think that’s what you’re describing here with these data is that correct and then we sort of glossed over class size so okay gotcha thank you yeah I think Allison I did but I couldn’t wait to do but maybe we’ll wait till after class size and then it might be better yep um and just while I’m on the budget this is the reduced Services budget that if we

7:19 have to do the radio services and I just I’ve said this multiple times over the last couple days this is not up for negotiation this list this is the list of cuts that have been identified that the school committee reviewed and to suggest that we if the does not pass we would come back to this list and say no actually we’re not going to make that cut I think undermines me undermines the work of the principles and I just want to be crystal clear that this these Cuts will be made sure the override not this so I just wanted to take that a step further further um also if if the override does pass all of

8:05 these positions will be the ones that come back it’s not that we will sub out alternative Edition things for this what we’re just I want to make sure everyone understands how transparent we’re being we’re not there will be no chess playing here it’s we’re not going to pull out say the sixth Symphony eighth thing and put in something else this is what will happen and I don’t want to come across as Cavalier because these are gut-wrunching yeah you’ve got a Frenching cuts and it was very difficult for the principals and directors to arrive at these decisions and so that’s why I’m being so adamant that these will be the cuts because of the depth of conversation and difficulty and people have already left

8:52 the district because their position is listed on this and to suggest that we would go back and rescind that if it was happening there and I think you know to hearken back to a time that I would prefer never to ever come back to um you know we spoke when he has waited into that and we’ve done a lot of work over the past few years to wave it back out of that and we did so at a time pre-passing a budget and at a point where our administrative positions were in shambles and so I think to suggest that we would ever should ever go back towards that I think it would be detrimental to the entirety of the district and would be so far out of our Lane and I think at least from what I’m hearing

9:38 question for clarity was less that and more so if it passes these will be the things that will flow back into the budget it won’t be in Alternatives that goes back in excuse me and unfortunately I can’t go into presentation mode because it’s going to keep giving me that error message but you can all still see uh I’m just happy it wasn’t my computer so quickly um I went through and this comes right from that Monday morning update that everyone gets on enrollment and so you can see the average class size in first grade second grade third grade and unfortunately it’s small but there is not a class of 10 anywhere in the Browns rule or the Glover school to

10:26 be found so is it worth I mean this is really confusing I think and I’ve talked to members of the community about this you go on the desk and website and look at the publicly available data and it’s totally different than what we show why is that because of how they capitalize they are not boots on the ground they’re looking at total number of students and then employees by category well let’s just take enrollment for students for example Desi has a number on their their website for and Marblehead Public Schools why is that number different than what we’ve shown in the budget process Etc because they calculate the difference where their numbers correct

11:10 and then it’s their most recent sort of actual data is reported through what fiscal year the current system so October 1st Simmons report goes in that reflects the enrollment so it’s not a two-year trailing estimated too well it’s yeah so how do we fix that because either I mean I guess where I’m going to with this is right you know hear this you know questions from the audience about transparency Etc and I’m glad you’re going to share this information publicly I think we should there’s nothing to hide about it but how do we fix that gap between deci numbers and what we report is there a way to fix it I go okay I don’t think so because you

11:57 know it’s like the chapter seven day funding formula Tessie has the formula that makes sense to them but to almost no one else and so calculating how they do their student-to-teacher ratio is is not reflective and you’ll see in subsequent slides that there’s not a ten to one there are classes of 10 in our district so once we start releasing those weekly numbers I think also it will be helpful because we see them every week we see is those numbers might have been correct the test is your point on October one but we may have gotten an influx of I don’t know 10 20 students from say between Charter and somewhere else maybe

12:42 I mean kids move mid-year in some years it’s a larger movement than others and sadly those numbers aren’t reflected by Desi nor are they reflected in our charity sheets that money still stays with Charter for the year so I’m just going to move quickly just one quick question on that because if we’re making and I love the idea that we’re making those those numbers available because I have people reach out to me and ask me these things and I just forward them along that that email that we get weekly on it though I think it deserves note that within some of our special education or some separate it does appear that we have like two to two to one ratios or eight to one but that is that that’s not the whole story of what’s actually happening within a

13:29 classroom and and at the district level so I just I wanted to say that and I wonder too if that’s where some of that comes in with the Desi numbers being so off from what reality is yes and I think you’re going to speak to as well once and are not weekly numbers when she

13:47 you might think wait a second I know that my child’s not in class is a 12. but it’s the way they have those kids are moving all day long they have to catalog those numbers somehow and in fact like he’s going to speak to how they do that yep um so here’s the village again fourth fifth and sixth you’re not seeing any classes of 10. as would be no surprise Matt Fox has done a 12-year data analysis of uh enrollment Trends and seven and eight and so most recently this are the class size averages by subject um in the weekly report I think it reports out by advisory work home room as opposed to by subject area so this breaks it down by subject area

14:36 the Monday morning reports give it by advisory or homeroom as opposed to by class

14:47 this is our 10 11. so that’s why I always assumed it was advisory and then for the high school you see the same thing that Dan has broken it out for English Math Science Social Studies and these are averages so you may see a class of 14 and a class of 29. so any question about enrollment or class size so it’s not through the chair so my I think other people have already stated bits and pieces of what I wanted to say but this is something that has kind of been super important to me since I got on the committee because I think the disparity between the deci numbers and what everybody looks at in the public versus what we see on those reports differ

15:34 dramatically and I think it’s something worth looking into to be able to have even more information on how those deci numbers are taken into consideration and how they get to 17 my son has never had less than 23 kids in his class and he’s in third grade so investigating that and I’m happy to you know facilitate and do that work I’m not trying to push that off but I really love that you’ve included this and I just want to thank you for doing that because it’s important that the public see this that they understand when we’re talking about losing teachers will increase a class size to 27 and they say well that’s not possible because you’re at 17 now well it is possible because we’re not at 17 now and so on some sort of a routine basis being able to do this and just

16:19 give those updates I think is really going to help again be more transparent um you know holding ourselves accountable to what the numbers actually are and alerting the public to that is is really important so thank you thank you

16:34 um we’ve had I’ve had a requests for a records request update um year-to-date we’ve completed 26 uh they’re called foia’s Freedom of Information Act um that’s more than most districts process when I speak my colleagues at the North Georgia and have this round table um they’re not completing not this many but I think Sarah Fox has said it in the past that this is a Marblehead uh peculiarity I can remember talking to um both Bill and Jason Silva about

17:10 a lot of those here what he tried to do was he said you know I’ve tried to say to people listen just email them you don’t have to we don’t have to make it a foil you need something I’ll give it to you if it’s on my computer I’ll send it to you if not I’ll Kyle do it so I think there is an Evan flow of when we try to formalize things more into a formalized foia versus people just asking we’d probably see an ebb and flow of these counts um I think the point we’re making is we give people any information I mean I want to be clear I’m the one who actually asked for this because yeah you know I’ve only been on the committee for a few months and you know this whole narrative around transparency I think yeah I I just don’t understand it because I think uh it’s just super kind of crusted an amazing

17:56 job putting together the income statements of the school district and led the the town on how this should be crafted and I think it led to an incredibly transparent budgeting process so I just I don’t get it and so I heard it again on League of women’s voters last week I want to know like what is it that makes us so foilable so that’s a pawn collection so I’m going to take you through thank you all 26 I’m not going to belabor the point but um since you out of yourself so to speak yeah sure you put a grid together so Tom had asked for the data of the date of the quest who requested it subject of

18:42 the foia when we responded and kind of a summary or resolution and so many of them uh as you saw in the previous slide nine people it’s a one-off so purchasing record a coach’s contract um there’s a research group that was asking for Staffing information enrollment and budget Charter has an annual foia request for mailing that they do um Dan Albert is asking for safe routes to school uh information um when the school committee vacancy came up there was interest around that certainly Dei and Henry Turner uh have made the paper the foia’s around that again enrollment class size people with an interest in my contract which is readily available

19:28 um core and communication but any contracts for him and specific emails with school committee members and the superintendent there was requests around Kate Thompson Consulting another about uh foreign Communications uh emails you have valid communication which is one of our vendors that wanted some information around the smart panels um when we were doing the high school principle search there was interest in the parents who had applied to that search but were not selected um investigation around a former coach safety committee meeting safety meeting minutes um uh there was a lawyer that was looking for numerous emails and I’m not

20:14 going into the resolution that’s all here this will be made available then there was a revised for the high school principal search or just the names um again a former coach investigation report um Tom I thought you could chuckle out of this there’s a group that was looking into our puberty curriculum and then something new foia foia’s um who knew that was such a thing but there was um people that submitted a four-year request for foia requests that have been I think the thing with foia request or is the time and money that is invested not that we don’t want to provide the information but sometimes

20:59 these are very complicated and so we need to see legal advice for what can be shared what has to be redacted and so those uh answers are not free uh and we’ve spent probably over five thousand dollars at this point just in the fiscal year addressing foyans um

21:26 where this came through the Secretary of State issuing a decision that we release information that will be on

21:37 that was very complicated I won’t shy away from that but certainly Colby’s office was involved every step of the way some far-reaching ramifications so so this is my first time seeing this um I’m just trying to piece together why you know we’re spending five plus thousand dollars a year probably on this stuff how much of this is really student learning facing versus other stuff and what do you think is a district we can do better such that we can reduce the number of foils reduce our is basically a waste of our money we’re trying to budget for other stocks so what can we do as a district better if anything

22:23 um I don’t think that we can do anything differently or better I think you know Sarah’s point that some of these stuff has legal ramifications and so when someone is requesting specific information specific emails to and from um what can be included in those emails because within them

22:47 the information maybe the email is a foia but some of the information within the email has to be redacted so when you give us a fee of what this is costing I’m not I’m assuming that the cost is going their legal fees to go to legal and have legal re but possibly or say what they will not agree to yes and it’s Staffing and time so as Lisa is doing foia request she’s not doing other work of the district but she is the designated foia officer absolutely so just a couple would pop out on me of course I’m like a third graders I’ll pick on the puberty is that something that somebody asked for and we said we’re not going to give it to you so it has to come through a foia

23:43 youth group and they were doing a Statewide analysis of puberty curriculum we’re reaching out to districts and I think their default was if we issue it as a foia request we’re going to get the information as opposed to just an email from healthy youth to a superintendent saying hey can you tell us about your computer and this is your contract on the website all right my evaluation all right I need something okay uh maybe you know for instance the contracts we can’t have fourth coming on that on the website I just think that either public documents it feels like it’s a big waste of resources in the districts if it’s if

24:29 this is a symptom that we’re not providing information we need to be providing but as I’m looking at a lot of the stuff it feels like it’s so sort of tangential to Student Learning ultimately it’s a real shame because five thousand dollars is a third of freshmen Sports when you put that into realistic terms yeah to caution us to tread lightly that on one hand we’re here trying to Championship ourselves as pillars of transparency at the same time it’s starting to feel quite like we’re shaming people for actually want some transparency so that’s my caution is this is feeling I think it’s a very fair point I just think that

25:14 again seeing this ask for the information because I just am concerned that this narrative that I’ve heard for the last several months that I don’t really understand and I heard it again last week you know why is it what drives people have to make these requests that we’re not we’re not forthcoming with information and that’s that’s shame on us as a as a district on the flip side if it’s stuff that’s sort of tangential now I get it so it’s not necessarily shaming people it’s just more of trying to understand what’s driving this narrative people and I think particularly if you’re going to put a whole list up here with people’s names on it they’re definitely

26:00 it it seems suspect to me and I just I just don’t understand because it is something that we should it’s a service that we should be providing if we’re not going to allow people to tell any of their side of the story either I think that’s you know that there may be other reasons we don’t know the entire history behind it and I think it’s important to recognize that sure as well so it’s unfortunately we have to go to that level but I’ll make an example I’m pretty sure leave Lander I’m picking a new because you’re in front of me is not buoying for personal information she’s pointing to write a story for the news there was other news sources on her as well I just want to be I I think this feels a little bit like

26:47 we’re transparent and darn you for fast enough to be transparent like I I think it sends a little bit of a mixed message and I hope that we can put it in this way I think there’s been a lot of improvement in transparency in the last couple years absolutely yeah I think we’ve made anything everything

27:04 she’s coming back to us in the comments absolutely and I think for foyas I mean we can hold every piece of information in and we still have to hand over foia so I think there’s a difference between I mean we have transcendentary state coming back I’d like I’d like that flush out I want to make sure that we’re following appeals that are that have been granted by the Secretary of State because that that can be perfect so but Sarah isn’t sort of the message though to the public that we don’t necessarily have to go through for you to get the information you need whether it’s for a new story whether it’s for us we want to give you yes like it’s let’s not go through a process that then drives expense in the district yeah that’s what I’m trying to

27:51 get to because is there inherently some sort of Roadblock to getting gaining information from the district and that’s what that is my concern because I keep hearing this but without having a conversation with people to ask questions you can’t get to that answer I don’t know and it’s correct yeah and they’re not so we’re having this discussion and saying these things without having people that I mean please certainly clearly stand up for itself but not you know without having that other half I don’t think it’s I’m not comfortable having those discussions and just to clarify it’s not self-praise um it’s just recognizing the Improvement that I I think the committee as a whole has had in the past couple of years I think a lot of these the way I kind of

28:38 see Foy as playing out is that if historically and I’m talking pre even any of us right things were not as transparent then people get understandably sell a little bit of sick and tired of asking and not getting a response asking and not getting response I’m not stating that that burden should then come to us and so it should be still voyed and not just asked but that’s where some of it comes from too I feel sure and I think as we get even more and more transparent and clearly take more accountability for all of the different items that we are providing or asked to provide providing more detail on the different items that were asked to provide I would hope that those requests would would die downward because number one we’re providing more information up front

29:24 before the questions were even asked and then number two if people feel as though that they’re going to get the answers by coming to the committee and the superintendent that now they can and I I don’t think that’s something that should be overlooked here here I completely agree with you 120 percent

29:47 I do love let me just clip art so Tom had also asked for a legal update um and on the advice of council I can be very obtuse and say that there are two um Massachusetts commission against discrimination complaints and that if the committee wants any additional information we should do something executive session so um I was advised not to talk about employees status any demographic information but the information is there any other legal action pending against the district where the district or town may have inherent liability okay um

30:35 commentations commentations um you had one yes I would like to commend assistant superintendent for teaching and learning uh Dan Murphy on her last school committee meeting before she get them I think she’s being exceptional superintendent and I think our district has benefited greatly from man’s work here she did a lot in a short period of time during the global pandemic adopted a Mathematics Curriculum adopted a new darts curriculum um with the elementary school schedules uh went to a standards-based report card and all of those were popular decisions and so she dispatched support of the residents of Marblehead

31:24 in her work but um I I count uh I’m glad I was able to Mentor Dan but I’m also glad I have been technically by now and she would be great in this we have a little celebration what would you wrote uh today um and her last name is

31:48 also like to offer accommodations sorry I didn’t want to like jump in but I I too you know a man you will be very very messed I think um you know as John was just saying you’ve done work in this District that was a long time of coming and things that you know with Megan and I got on the committee at the same same year and that we knew needed to be addressed at that point and you know sometimes I just find myself a school committee runs around in my head at a random day it’s just really grateful for how hard you’ve worked and the things that you’ve done to move the district closer to where we need to be and that will that will always be in your spot here so I wish you nothing but the best of luck and denim is very lucky and you will be missed

32:43 um that brings us back to Yasin it is also yeah since last day with us um we have been a fabulous student representative it’s been our pleasure to have you join us um and cerebral picked up a little something yeah you stepped into very big shoes of Dan Howell I didn’t think that anybody could really match it you have absolutely matched it so if you also yeah and you know just got some cologne Marblehead school committee student representative for to remember your time with us thank you as if you would ever marry him

33:32 [Laughter] [Laughter] and like be inspires to do this too thank you so much thank you keep us posted on all your adventures

33:45 thank you thank you and that leads us too yes thank you so we had a class election class elections for officers at the high school uh May 22nd May 24th for us incoming seniors and juniors and then sophomores will be tomorrow on the second um the MHS band and Orchestra have their concert their spring concert on May 22nd and the chorus had theirs on the same night of the Performing Arts banquet on May 25th uh the GSA Club at Marblehead High School uh hosted the Day of Silence on May 24th and the MHS art exhibition was on display until May 31st at Abbot Hall

34:31 shout out to all the great artists and for the seniors who organized it was a lot of work

34:39 um the last day of school or remaining two years is tomorrow June 2nd

34:46 and senior project presentations will also be tomorrow in the MHS field house from 12 to 2 and they are open to parents and the community if anyone is interested in seeing I’ll see your projects the senior class will also have uh prom on June 6th the red carpet will be at 4 30. prom will start at 6 30 and it will be at the house of leaves in Boston Shepherd [Laughter]

35:18 um seniors will also have a field day on June 8th at Piper Fields where they will also sign yearbooks and pick up cap and gown anything they eat for graduation which will be June 9th at 6 pm on Piper fields or in the MHS Fieldhouse

35:38 the NHS National Honor Society induction will be tomorrow at mdms the national green School Society have their induction May 30th at MHS National Spanish Honor Society was today also MHS and the national French Honors Society

35:58 on June 6th and June 7th uh freshmen will take the biology MCAS and they’ll be late start for grades 10 and 11 at Marblehead High School um Boys Baseball have their first tournament game against Summerville today

36:15 um and June 23rd is the last day of school for the greatest

36:22 memory is it tomorrow or is it Monday the day that the humping driving that’s just fine it’s Monday I actually I asked today what they were selling senior Samurai shirts to cafeteria [Laughter] talking about uh well no because I live in like the main YouTube

36:54 thank you and we look forward to seeing you next um to celebrate your commencement

37:14 do not see anyone so that is our next item is interview in both of school nurse this is the table right there yeah

37:31 yep uh Julie Berman is uh being recommended for the 0.8 purchasing uh position that has been vacant all year at Marblehead high school she has a bachelor’s degree in nursing is an RN has been subbing here and also working at Landmark correct as a nurse um she’s working with Lisa on the dese certification piece and I bring Julie Berlin I’m going to open it up for questions that I

38:04 I’ll do is a widely respected RN particularly in Pediatrics and I think we’re very lucky to have you here um you’ve subbed in buildings where I’ve had kids and in just for years I know that people have come to you in the community to ask you different questions so I’m very happy to thank you um does anybody have any specific questions for Julie

38:29 what Sarah said I think um it’s great to see someone else that I went to high school with here I love that part too um but I know you’re really invested in this community and your children’s sports with my son so yeah I think that that’s just great to have you even more involved here it’s wonderful I will be a great asset we’re really excited to be here so thank you I will jump on that bandwidth as well and just see how excited I am to see I was to see your resume in there and and um I’m thrilled that we get you in that I’ve got the student at the high school right now so I’m glad that he will be under your care next year and just super happy that this is happening

39:15 I think we’re so lucky to have you so thank you um I also knows that you are a new nurse hi guys I have huge respect for that job so you’ve come very very qualified so I’m glad you’re joining us thank you I told you it would be grueling for um for um to enter or to hire Julie Berman BSN ending certification from Jessie um completion of the Desi certification program

39:57 [Laughter] [Laughter] opposed motion carries five to zero welcome

40:15 um okay so we’re gonna ask for I’m actually going to ask for the I’m going to read off if anybody wants to discuss any individual item we can otherwise we will take one vote to approve all items below this is the consent agenda yes approval to declare High School science department items a surplus approval of the 2324 school year out of state field trips as well as the schedule of bills totaling 238 428.67 the fy24 clerks agreement which mirrors what we already have established with our collective bargaining unit and we are tabling approval does anybody want to talk about any of those individually

41:01 I just want to um Dan thank you for proactively making sure that we’re recycling those um those materials so that’s great that we can find ways to either utilize them or recycle them

41:20 so can I ask for a motion to approve the consent action and agenda items so much second can I just say that I’m thrilled to see the addition of overnight and trips going out again and thank you so much of that was stable with covid and these are I don’t we’ve had these trips before um so as I was reading through them today um I was it just made me really happy that they’re back and they sound like really cool experiences for the kids so I’ll ask for a vote all in favor aye opposed motion carries 520.

41:57 um superintendent report so pleased to introduce uh social worker at high school Gina Hart was here before the committee in the past providing the youth risk survey data um Gina is such an asset and resource to the district we have not done a youth risk behavior survey since 2007 and in my first year here we picked up the state and Gene was like I think we can do it better than Marblehead and so she took the state uterus Behavior survey and Marblehead eyes that’s a word and then this year she’s like there were some things about that that went well that we liked but there were Lessons Learned so let’s improve it and tonight you will get to see the fruits of that

42:43 flavor so Gina thank you so much and the first thing I want to say is not every school does this takes data and uses the data and a strategic way to inform many of the program we use this data for so much important information and thank you so much to superintendent Bucky and pencil van bow and the administration for supporting us because the logistics and the that go into it and I appreciate the support and we’ve heard this now I think three times so thanks for continuing to listen okay so and there’s a lot of information I won’t talk about it all in the interest of time but um excited okay so all grades ages 14 to 18 the tool we use this here was the mghi beside school-wide assessment we had 627 students respond six point four percent were opted out by parent Guardian there

43:28 isn’t opt out um option there were supplemental questions via Anonymous Google form 486 responses so we got about 70 of our student population respond which is a great size this was done in the fall get a lot of questions about our students honest on these surveys which is a good question and we do everything we can to publicize the anonymity of the survey it really is confidential and Anonymous the only person who sees the data is me I have no interest in knowing who said what you just want data um we show the data to the students before they take the survey to increase by and answer that they see the data so we showed the 2021 Data before they took the 20 to 22 survey this year so you’re going to see a few different data points you’re going to see Marblehead 2021 Marblehead 2022 and any applicable or

44:14 comparable State data from 2021 if the questions were not exactly I didn’t want to compare them because we want publicity but being able to see some comparisons so you’ll hear me talk about risk and protective factors which are things that make our students or Community more vulnerable toward or protected against substance use and mental health issues and we collect this data to share with students as they just explained we share with our faculty um staff and community members informed City for programming and education on the current strengths and needs of Our Youth and Resources so the demographic side I won’t read through this all but I’ll just leave this up here for a minute a lot of options for students to identify which is really important and one thing to note a new question we asked you we had before was place of birth so about 92 percent of our students were born in the United States so I think percent went on

45:06 okay so just some of the basics protective and risk factors some really great things 97 of our students reported positive connections with peers about 72 report engaging in regular physical activity which we know is a great health and mental health protective Factor matches up with um our students that engage in sports a risk factor only 14.5 percent of our students reporting getting eight hours of sleep or more which is the recommended rate for that age most of our students are getting less than that so we know our students are safe because of the pandemic we saw a lot of substances decrease from 2019 to 2021 so for the state alcohol has decreased 25 rates of marijuana and tobacco use also decreased um 65 took part in organized activity in

45:52 the past week 34.7 doing volunteer work and 91.3 felt their neighborhood was safe from Prime so those are just some of the basics

46:01 so we asked this question last year do you feel like there’s a staff member at the school who’s made an effort to really get to know you we asked this because research tells us that the more connected or positive relationship students have with teachers the more the more positive the academic and social emotional outcomes will be so we our goal last year was to increase so we did a little bit 64.7 which is great we know we have great stages making good connections always learn to improve but that’s a protective for sure so mental health one of the things we really want to take a look at is we know that our students are at risk so the questions we ask are identifying students that were above the risk threshold for anxiety depression and psychotic experiences and the way we looked at these are some of the questions from the php4 so 34 of our students are above the rich threshold risk threshold for anxiety 21 for

46:48 depression and 12 of psychotic experiences which is Extreme paranoia or hallucinations or delusions is this that we’re 34 above the state Norm no okay this this data is specific to Marblehead only there were not exact questions on the state survey that I could compare so this is just from Marblehead the the most comparable State data we have is 33.6 felt so sad or hopeless for two or more weeks in the past year that they stopped doing regular activities okay but this is so I I find this really interesting because it was like when I looked at it before the meeting I thought that was sort of a self-recort on anxiety and but what you’re saying is that it’s not it actually is you extrapolated some data from various questions so that it’s more targeted and

47:35 more and yes it’s more more realistic than just a self-sport right this isn’t just students saying I have anxiety because often they don’t know how to diagnostically identify that these are questions around um feelings have been super intrusive thoughts negativity overthinking avoidance so things that would be diagnostic criteria for anxiety yep so self-injury suicidality non-suicidal self-induced Behavior which should be cutting or self-harm what’s what’s good to see is that we’re below the state average the state is blue there um 11.5 percent of our students are experiencing that where the state is a little bit higher Suicidal Thoughts is 17.6 um and seriously considered suicide which the criteria was a plan or an attempt was 14.2 percent so it’s really concerning to know that that many of our students are struggling again not

48:21 specific to Marblehead we’re right on par with where the state is just out of curiosity on some slides you’re looking at sort of intra District comparisons right yes and on some other slides you’re looking at a comparison with State yeah is that because we don’t have the district data from the year prior is that for suicidal hair is the state you’ve Health survey and some of the questions are not exactly matched what questions we ask um we did the mghi decides assessment which we felt truly had better questions that’s why we chose it moving forward that uh tool will have safe data so we can then compare exactly which would be brilliant does the MGH either side data

49:08 do they release their averages they haven’t this is the first year they’re doing it so they’re not this year they’re not releasing State data but they are next year so when I come and present next year we’ll be able to see 15 14 of our students seriously considered suicide is very true yes it is and again you know it’s very troubling it’s something that we need to know but it’s also happening across the state so and I think for anyone who works with kids in mental health it’s not at all surprising either right okay um this was a question and some of these questions are specific tomorrow have we created this actually as a mental health department we know there’s a lot of students to struggle with body image issues or disordered eating and there’s really no questions on the surveys to address those so we asked this one in

49:53 particular do you struggle regularly with body image or negative perception of how you look wishing your body looked different engaging in maybe you should change about about 45 of students indicate yes which is on the side of our students so that’s something

50:08 experiences of discrimination based are on race or ethnicity up as your age not include you in their activities 4.5 people assume their English was four or three point nine percent you were called racially insulting Maine 7.7 this one really stuck out because um about nine percent of our student population identifies as students of color and so almost all of them have been collaboration insulting games which is really concerned discouraged from joining an advanced level class 2.6 people expected more of you 5.8 people who starts unless of new 3.2 your hassled by a store clerk 3.4 people acted as a paper you are not smart 3.6 and people acted if they were created you 2.3 so we don’t know where these discriminations are coming from it could be in school it could be outside of school it could be from adults peers but just to know that our students are walking through the Halls having

50:54 experienced these things is very important to know experiences and discrimination based on personal identities gender identity 3.9 the highest header with sexual orientation almost eight percent religion was 5.2 disability 3.2 socioeconomic status 5.8 and other was 1.6 is is it possible to ask those questions to whether or not they’ve happened actually in school I think that would be an interesting statistic I I’m not saying it’s any less I think it’s it is particularly that’s happening here it’s even more concerning yeah you can ask whatever we want I think that’s a difference you know I I’m not I’m not trying to overload the questions or the survey I just think

51:40 that would be really important yeah I understand where where they’re like let’s see more categories again it makes it no less yes

51:49 right and then knowing how you know discussing what we can do as a community to make it better from a community perspective is it happening at 7-Eleven or is it happening at CVS right it’s happening at church is it happening in school sure you know absolutely I’m open to any suggestions about improving the survey because the more data we have

52:09 um okay really interesting above the risk threshold for anxiety and depression 59.3 percent of students who identify the sexually diverse 73.7 of students who are identified as gender diverse 38.5 are students who identify it’s Asian 25 of students are identified station black or African-American 38 of students who identified as Hispanic and 44 of seniors are above the special representative expression so we know that these are more vulnerable populations whoever talked to about your mental or emotional health no one which is very concerning 50.6 appropriately caregiver was the highest um 63.2 online of social support almost two percent ER patient 1.3 substance use

52:54 treatment point two other relative 23.3 friend or romantic partner was another 5152 from two percent teacher coach or administrator was 10.5 school counselor was 10.8 last year our identified School Personnel was a little lower it was about 17 that looks like it’s about 21 so we’ve improved there which is good mental health professional outside the school is 22.3 15.9 pediatrician 0.5 religious support and phono Texas support from one point six percent um on that last one the 10.8 sheet I think that’s what it was to um School counseling Personnel do you think that that could be because I would expect that to be higher possibly do you

53:40 think that is is that lower number because of access our staffing is it is it something to do with like the waiting in line for you guys or is that not an issue so we have a robust mental health department in the high school we have seven um staff members at Augusta and the school counseling department which also do some social emotional work as well um and we do our bed one of the things we’ve really been working on in the last few years is getting out into the health classes being at assemblies um we have like a flyer that will help teachers I mean we do everything we can um I think and we’re all busy so I think we see a lot of kids um I think one of the questions we should ask is like what students perception of like being able to access support and so like what’s the verit because we keep coming up against us we know we’re busy and we’re seeing kids but we also sometimes have kids saying

54:27 like we don’t know where the supports are so I think addressing some of those barriers may be a question

54:36 yeah I hope not but it’s possible or is there even or they don’t want to stick it up is it stigma that’s what I was going to say is their concern if it’s to you know people can see or they see you walking in that direction unfortunately that Sigma is attached right and we need to do more to break that stigma um but if you know I’m glad that the numbers went up of students talking to teachers coaches counselors here and I think that’s fantastic I’d like to see much more of that and maybe you know doing a deeper dive into that from a question perspective again not trying to overload it no but again will really help determine what else we should do should there be some type of and maybe there is and I just don’t know

55:25 it’s more of an anonymous method of a first reach out at least um because sometimes that first one can be just the hardest yeah different strategies and stuff like that yeah yeah and I think it goes to say too that some kids don’t want to unpack things in school they they want to stay tight in school and so there’s a certain point at which your school is the safety and not the counselor’s office um accessing mental health support outside of school which is great so that’s good okay now on to the substance use questions currently a previously have any adults who lived with these substances in front of you and Away the major concern um 10 said yes which is a little bit of

56:11 a increase from last year lifetime use of the most commonly used substances for teenagers alcohol marijuana and nicotine alcohol is about 40 percent cannabis or marijuana 20 nicotine 34 we’ve seen a big spike there this year we asked a question including cigar um vaping products cigarettes and dip unless it was just vaping so that’s likely to account but that that looks about pretty accurate to me from other states data we’ve seen um 20 21 data for cannabis was about 27.9 Which is higher so I think this is just important because there’s a concept like a misconception that all of our students are basic there are a lot of students they think it is a problem and if you look at how much percentage based on how many people answer that that’s still like a couple hundred students that

56:57 feels like a lot but they are not all vaping there are plenty of students that aren’t and I think the more that we advertise that but you know but the less that students will be um be more likely to use um age of persons is super important we have data that tells us the research that tells us the younger you use the more likely you’ll be to develop a substance use disorder later in life so for alcohol nicotine and marijuana the next slide most of our students are using before the age of 15. so I just want to clarify and that that’s not a cumulative number if you want to know how many kids by the age of 14 are using you need to add up 12 13 and 14. and that number is astronomically troubling yes like

57:43 less than 12 what was that like 80 questions I would like Dr Bucky in the leadership to look at ways and I know we work on this constantly but how we can start touching some of these younger kids and touching them sooner because the idea that fifth graders and sixth graders are already using alcohol we’re not getting these kids we need to get these kids younger yes and I think one of the biggest things about prevention is at that age it’s important to do some education and awareness about substances but it’s really more about enhancing risk and protect identifying risk factors enhancing protective factors building resiliency skills and it is about teaching about them about the dangers of substances even though that can be important and I think

58:30 there’s so much great SEL work being done at the lower level schools I think we have to look at kind of how much is targeted in an intervention for like this is why we’re doing it this is your two intervention type of thing yeah yeah and because I mean I’m sorry 8.6 of 12 or younger that’s just not that we have to be able to get that yeah yeah so looking at kind of what are some evidence being prevention methods that like for age appropriate and I think that some of this even occursive to more of a tier one so in a health class where like you’re saying the the SEO pieces that that are being brought to every student in order to help Shore up whatever is going on for them um and help them build resiliencies and build coping skills so that this doesn’t become a coping skill right and

59:16 addressing substances and mental health again because one is you know they’re part of the same Continuum and wanted to refers to another do we ask any questions about trauma experiences within any of this um some of the questions come up when they’re identifying um risk factors or anxiety and depression some of those questions come up but they’re not kind of they’re kind of covered in the way that data okay do we ask anything about frequency of use also yes so what we have is Lifetime news and current news but um lifetime is in like ever and in the past 30 days I don’t think they put in the past 30 days I might have okay um I’ll get to there’s a couple days um okay I’m gonna try to scoop through

1:00:01 the main piece of time driving Under the Influence very concerning 26.3 of our students have been in a car with someone else who’s doing me driving which has increased from Russia same with during the cars

1:00:16 yes yes I found that really concerned what percentage do you think or drinking alcohol or using marijuana I already addressed this um about 41 which is the highest of our students feel like 26 to 50 of our students using we know this based on the data it’s actually less than that in the corner here 6.1 percent of views in the past 30 days 6.4 percent of these marijuana in the past 30 days the first one was alcohol and then 4.8 percent of our students said use nicotine big products every day in the past 30 days which is the highest of the most commonly used

1:00:52 this is pretty consistent with State data but yes it’s it’s an issue um and I’m going to talk about all the things we’re already doing to try to prevent this which would make you say like what if we weren’t doing these things would your parents have already be upset if you or give you a consequence if they knew you were using alcohol or marijuana on a regular basis so we want to look at parental attitudes and afford it and because that’s important and about 10 um said no and about nine percent said yes which is a protective Factor yeah okay a few other data points of substitutes about 47 of our students who use nicotine Bay products are planning to reduce or quit in the next month that tells us that our students know it’s not good for them and they’re trying to quit that eight referrals to the diversion program for substance use infractions on school grounds we have a new diversion program next year called ibiside which

1:01:38 is evidence-based program which is great students who use nicotine or marijuana in the past 30 days 25 report they have a craving within the first hour of waking up which is a strong indicator of an addiction or a substance use disorder we’re seeing a lot of paranoia and hallucinations based on high potency marijuana use so about seven percent of students um in terms of a higher over overdose with substances which we just passed American policy amazing prescription which could be synthetic or prescribed opiates benzodiazepines three percent hallucinate hallucinogens or psychedelics 3.35 cocaine methamphetamine and heroin inhalances steroids are still really low however it’s super important to note that some of our students even if it’s just a handful are using these high overdose or substances okay

1:02:27 qualitative data just really quickly we did a couple of focus groups to hear students voices on substance use Mental Health it was really interesting the big takeaways were feeling like schoolwork and and the rigors of school where they need to chronic stress and mental health issues um parental attitudes towards substance use a lot of like loose or um allowing behaviors around alcohol but very more Stern behavior um attitudes toward other substances and a lot of students feeling like their parents were accepting of substance use if it was nothing more than alcohol or nicotine or marijuana and the parents were aware of it so that they could be Health supervise and support it to not become an issue later so those are some of the takeaways and quality what is our path of data back to the

1:03:13 parents I want to know I guess I wanna I wanna hear it now one in four kids are getting in a car with a drunk driver yeah so I mean honestly in the past two years we’ve done great sharing the data with our students and faculty but we’ve not really done aside for like if any parents are on the school committee right you haven’t really shared much with parents but we can swim right yeah my recommendation is having served on another District school Community would be to make this successful off the website I think it’d be important for you as well these data are amazing and it’s great that you’re tracking it longitudinally but I do think it’s important to put together some key takeaways because you’re looking at a lot of data to digest I understand I just think that that

1:04:00 should be up year-round on our website because I think it is important it’s it’s that I was staggered at the previous District so I’m not this is something we’ve seen across many times

1:04:23 but I I think in a weekly update once it might really behoove us to put into parents our youth risk behavior survey told us one in four kids are in this community are getting in a car with a drunk driver because that’s a conversation start I gotta tell you I think Sarah what you could do is you know provide a steady diet in small bites on a weekly monthly whatever basis as you think about educating the public there’s so much data in here I know it’s too much however we want to share it it’s here yeah no I just think like you know from what you said a lot of kids are saying my parents as long as I’m being responsible as long as they know as long as it’s this as long as

1:05:09 it’s that I think the knowing one in four are making a decision that the parents would then not be alone so safe I mean that’s a good conversation exactly there that it says someone not a friend it could be their parent but they’re getting into the car with it absolutely I think there’s like a really broad picture here but this is that if we get one family they have one conversation and keep one kid from getting in a car we’ve moved or realizing that let’s not have the party at our house let’s not supply

1:05:47 I fully support making any and all of this data publicly available on a routine basis I do think though that’s a valid point it needs to be in manageable sound bites yes so that if if parents there will be parents inevitably who see something like this and just it’s too much for them to digest but giving a small sound bite such as that is a health substitute yeah even if there’s one piece of data that’s hiring of each time

1:06:33 these are our counseling stuff our support staff our Administration our student-led teachers leading support programming our health curriculums doing so much stuff with um mental health and substance use students supporting students um these are all the examples of everything our school is doing and some of this evidence-based and some of it is more just kind of student-led or teacher driven but it’s amazing to see if we weren’t doing all this and what would the day look like and then my last slide is kind of the takeaways um an early use issue we already talked about district-wide programming harm reduction more education around reducing the risk as opposed to scare Tech so awareness campaigns sharing the social norms so that students don’t think everybody is vaping more SEL will work we’re doing so much of it already but how can we enhance on it lgbtqia and Dei

1:07:19 programming enhancing on the great work it’s already being done one of the things we’re really laughing body engineering disorder programming that’s something that we don’t have a ton of and then the last thing is this isn’t just an issue in our schools and then our schools should just be addressing our community and our parents we need to work together in a three-pronged approach because these things are happening at homes they’re happening outside of school and while school is a great place to try to address some of this you have to kind of work together about like what can parents do at home what can Our Community Resources look like thank you very much thank you so I would just say the last two slides that we moved quickly through or school committee to look at what we are currently doing the programs that are offered it’s easy when we look at this data to identify the areas where we

1:08:07 could be doing more or better but also the data speaks to the programming at the high school and I don’t I don’t want to imply that I don’t think we’re doing a lot I don’t think there’s a point at which we say well we did a lot so we’re done doing a lot or we don’t need to do more like of course there’s never we only when the data you just gave me we’re doing a ton but we need to do it more yeah it’s just it’s just something we need maybe we can unpack that just one more piece there’s a need that’s clearly identified you’re doing a lot on that slide with resourcing and programming is any of that at risk with regards to our budgetary decisions

1:08:50 no we I mean to be honest because I there’s some of the work in like identifying grants and like PCO donations for things we’ve never had a lack of support through grants and resources so our budget decision this year at the at the voters box won’t impact a lot of this I don’t think is part of our budget is coming from Grants this would I would assume be the vast majority of Grant base yes I mean with substances work we do is almost all granted that’s great congratulations so what definitely to feel supported I do think that there’s noting though that the bright program is one of these that’s on there and Matt could ask for that not the high school no no let’s the high school the bright program is on there as one of our really amazing things that we are

1:09:35 doing for ourselves this is incredibly helpful Matt asked her at his school in our aspirational budget but that obviously didn’t move forward so while nothing is being cut there are other places that we can continue to fund further and do better and to better support our students especially when we’re talking about catching them at younger and younger ages and the bright program isn’t that’s a hospitalization re-entry program so it’s not a great example of that piece but what we know is that you know trauma experiences and lacking resiliency lead to substance use and lead to mental health issues further down the line so I think if we can really move these amazing programs that we have going on at our high school further into our district at the lower levels the better we’re going to be

1:10:21 supporting students and catching students early on and giving them the skills so that hopefully once they get up to the high school they are making better choices and they are better aware that you know their peer all of their peers aren’t using alcohol and that they don’t need a pot a joint to to feel better on a Friday night and to have fun with different friends or to wake up in the morning exactly yeah to get through their day so I think you know I’m always sort of a systems based person and and I always want it going further and further down the line instead of being further and further up the line so I think that is a huge takeaway for me as we look at funding further on for in in you know in further budgets where we can hopefully put some of these amazing pieces that

1:11:07 are at our high school and then you’re also normalizing mental health care in the school in a school atmosphere so that once kids get to the high school it’s like oh I had such a great relationship at Brown and Village and vets you know who’s my person here and everybody’s winning at that point I think it’s any of the lower level schools came up and did a similar presentation they would have very similar support programming side so we know they’re doing a ton of great work I think it’s just about life that’s the magic approach absolutely yes I’m sorry I just wanted to add one thing because I think this information is all really helpful and I really appreciate you spearheading it and facilitating it and I think also getting the feedback from the students

1:11:53 because they’re our biggest resource right in terms of understanding mental health and substance use challenges that they’re seeing one of the things that stuck out to me aside from kind of the numbers that we’ve already talked about is some of the pieces that are embedded in that qualitative data slide and so I guess my question back to the administration in general is in terms of takeaways and recommendations are we also looking at our own practices that are embedded within our district to see how those are impacting mental health and where we can make adjustments to I love that question

1:12:31 I was just going to ask um if at the end of the questionnaire if there is any um Outreach information if you you know need to kind of you know this any concluding sentence about normalizing depression and for developmentally connecting kids to feel more normalized about it and it’s you know here’s a number to call in the event you need support that’s a great question I think it’s super important I believe that there is on the mgh1 but I can double check because I think if not it’s important that we substitute something in there because whatever we do presentations or questions about I know when we did the yrbs state one last year we had a whole slide about like resources you can research because you know we get nervous asking these questions about suicidality is it’s

1:13:17 going to be tougher um so I believe we did but I’ll double check because it takes so long ago would it be possible for them to be able to make a notation or for free time in the event that they wish to share the name with you Gina Hart they can share their name for somebody for you to connect with yeah that would be great I think because for some people I think making stuff is hard yeah but if they just have to type their name in like the thing you’ll want you to contact them that might be more accessible yep yeah that’s a crazy question um and just to kind of hammer home what you said is we’re doing this research and data collection in the schools but this is not a school problem this is a community problem and the solution needs to be communities

1:14:08 thank you so much thank you all righty um

1:14:18 just some staffing uh updates um Michelle Carlson has hired an assistant principal for the high school um is Dan Richards he is currently an interim dean of students at Manchester Essex but prior to that he was a high school principal from Belmont and then he was high school principal at Georgetown so very fortunate to have him coming to the high school as an assistant principal um Mandy is leading interviews next Tuesday for the assistant principal uh position at Village they’ve had over 30 applicants for that position so a robot applicant pool and I will see my remaining time to Michelle who has an exciting announcement yes as part of the budget process this

1:15:04 year we restructured HR departments we no longer have an HR Director but we’ve hired a HR manager her name is Kelly Ferretti she will be starting on Monday um and she has extensive HR background and Municipal and school experience so we’re very happy to welcome Michelle

1:15:24 hats for sale when the man is wearing like 47 hats and trying to balance them um it’s very good thank you one question for both of the these assistant principal roles it’s always interesting um and you don’t need to tell me a number or anything do we have um internal applicants it’s always nice to hear that we have people that are looking to kind of move through the ranks and it speaks to mentoring perfect to me um School Community Communications discussing discussion items there’s a lot of policy items here so I’m going to kick it to Sarah Oh yes so if I’m understanding correctly at the previous meeting so these these are all up for votes this evening

1:16:10 um because this would be our third read um so at the previous meeting the question that came up was regarding the school Improvement plan so the new revised one is the dfa-e which it would be combining

1:16:33 bdfa E1 E2 and E3 if I’m remembering correctly um so there was a question regarding the approval of the school committee of this school Improvement plans so as I caught up with that with Dr Bucky um he had found a piece so in Mass General law it states um each School Improvement plan shall be submitted to the superintendent who shall review and approve the plan after consultation with the school committee no later than July 1st a year in which the plan of CE implemented so given that so what comment I did in the in the policy meeting was to put forward the revisions that masc had suggested we didn’t tweak them at all that’s that’s

1:17:19 what is on your docket here um so my suggestion would be that we stick with what this what the revisions are and not stray from that and that if we as school committee if we want to um Dr Buckley I’m forgetting the word that you’ve used it was not for what school committee we get them presented to us and then we would vote to endorse them which then would inform the superintendent as to sort of the direction that the school committee believes without kind of overstepping in in an approving format but this that’s not the mafc recommendation so the masc

1:18:05 recommendation is not I believe is not that we’re approving it okay it’s but we have the school committee of memorable head has approved it in the past and so that from what I took from the feedback from last meeting was that that there was a question around what we’ve been doing uh yes yeah I think that again the policy is superintendent makes the call informs the school committee before it makes the call but we can certainly as a matter of practice but at the end of the day it’s superintendent right right and in my thinking on that if the school committee chooses not it takes a vote and does not endorse the school Improvement plan and then the superintendent approves it very soon yeah there’s some bigger problems there than than kind of an approval or a non-approval at the school committee level

1:18:50 committee level committee level um so that that’s my thinking and that that those School Improvement plans have been worked on in the sacs with the parents and then in high school has students involved as well parents teachers and the principal so that they’ve really come to school committee quite well thought out at that point and so sort of that endorsement is an appropriate way for school committee to move forward on it but it’s to the will of the committee as well so

1:19:24 any questions come concerns questions are we voting on all of these at once I would like to we’ve seen them three times you have to do it at once yeah so if people would like to pull one out so I will I will ask if it’s okay I will ask for a motion to rescind policies bdfa Dash E1 bdfa-e2 bdfa Dash e free cha and CHC Reaper Reaper all right opposed motion carries five to zero

1:20:09 then I will ask for a motion to approve policy the revisions to policy DFA bdfa-e

1:20:28 so much second all paper all right opposed motion carries five zero thank you everyone all right um FY 24 budget planning and discussion um right here underneath this we have a counting of all employee benefits this was an item yes this is an item I brought up again so uh uh assistant superintendent Cresta has to present or formulate a budget Etc where there’s a lot of moving pieces 90 of which is driven by headcount yet we don’t have full accounting or control for the indirect expenses if you will

1:21:13 benefits Etc which are carried at the Town level I’m hopeful that a town working with the district will come to a place where you will have full visibility and full control on one sort of income statement of all of that in a way that we can make informed decisions as a school committee such that the elimination of position or adding a position will add so much costs indirectly um you know what’s the fully loaded cost of an employee based upon benefits Insurance Etc so I’m hopeful that you know I’m just curious where we are in that discussion that something I mean we’re just a preliminary discussion certainly we can um investigate this further but it’s not

1:21:58 simply as easy as moving the budget item from the town side system at the earliest yes but it also includes the administration of the benefits we don’t administer the benefits the employees actually go to the town offices the town’s the one that signed for the box so that would be something we’d have to take on in schools um so be a little more manpower um if there’s you know a cancellation of insurance it’s also up to the town to do that in a timely manner and if they don’t the cost Falls to The Tout doesn’t fall so that it’s a lot more involved than just moving that budget so it’s not just accounting but you’re saying Administration we are hiring an HR administrator within the school as we should with the largest employer of the Town by order of magnitude so it’s a we

1:22:43 don’t know if the current resource you’re adding would be enough to handle this or not we had two full-time people with restructured okay so if we were to do this and take that responsibility from the town along with the accounting we would have to then increase the head count and maybe that comes down for the town so it might be cross-leveling but it’s just something that would give you more direct accounting it also would not necessarily give us a snapshot of our entire cost there are so many other things that are involved in encompassing all of our costs including some of the town’s facilities I mean not facilities but there’s Staffing we use their treasurer’s office we use their accounting office we use Parks and Recreation for our fields we use CPW

1:23:30 type of time there’s so many other things can you work on during because during the summer we do a much fewer meetings can you work on getting us you know somewhat of a report on all these items and also we’re we’re the the stress fractures will be if you will on how this would work or not because I think it’s a discussion we should be having and it may work and it may not but we owe it to have the conversation at least so if you can find some way to kind of report out to us the steps that would need to happen the ones that just can’t happen the ones that can and what the steps would be but I think if you compared to it has impossible public administration always compared to

1:24:16 private Enterprise but you think about the sort of fringe benefits cost per employee it can be a percentage whether it’s 20 plus or minus but then you have allocated costs which is what we’re talking about the allocated costs of town other Town departments that you carry as a line item on your budget Etc we don’t I’m just saying if we could think about it in that regards it would be really helpful I think for the school to think through what the total cost of running the district is and how important each additional decision is right I mean certainly we can report that out we we do report that to the state annually through our end of year report and that’s why when when the chair of the school committee who signs that report annual sees that it costs roughly 60 70

1:25:02 million dollars to run the district it’s not our 40 million dollar budget there are grants there are other outs funding sources there are Town funding sources and you did a great job this year listing all those you know income sources which was great I mean maybe we can kind of incorporate part of that into like a quarterly update or something like okay these are what accounts reporting to us that they’re using on our rehab yes exactly absolutely so certainly we can work on that it just gets back to that transparency thing too I think that would really help the average citizen like myself understand how much money’s coming in from all sources and how much we spend on everything

1:25:47 um um so we’ll continue to work on it so um superintendent evaluation workshop dates um I’ve been writting it out trying to find a date here um Sarah was gonna try to figure out one more piece and we would need to know that answer by tomorrow morning if we’ll be looking at Tuesday evening and so for posting um

1:26:29 I think oh wait until I have a time that it says time now there’s no I can’t I’ll these are things if everyone else can make 7 30 on Tuesday night to six yeah I’ll make it because we can always Zoom you in all right so you’ll get us in a scissor on that I can add to my grade here okay um um subcommittee in liaison updates uh Megan tell us a little bit about how cultural science commitment but everything I heard uh actually my daughter went um she said it was amazing oh the food was great um you know she had a great time it was another success

1:27:32 uh represented well he was on Beat [Laughter] that all right yeah I had one of those really cool uh video I don’t know it’s like the thank you they have them on the red carpets where you stand in the middle and the camera goes around selfie stick and takes your picture and like they had one of those stations uh which my son and his friends loved and then they had some spray-on tattoo stations which were also incredibly popular judging from the lives I think

1:28:08 has posted a video that high school students made of cultural feasts and the dance station that you’re talking about I think Megan will recognize the student that is in the dance machine

1:28:30 at least in session was that last night yes um there was definitely some feedback there about how do we kind of further communicate to the community which I think has been something that we’ve talked about a lot here um so I mean we had a good conversation around that but that’s you know that was the concern they brought to us um the other thing just I don’t want to forget on the CPAC piece is that nominations for unsung hero last days tomorrow so again you can do it on their websites okay and they’re not going to do it in person it’s not going to be a live event this year so it’ll be similar

1:29:18 that that um I believe brings us to closing business new business correspondence and a German at 8 20