School Committee

School Committee: March 13, 2026

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The Marblehead School Committee held a joint working session on March 12, 2026 with Select Board Chair Dan Fox and Finance Committee Chair Alec Crosby to examine the FY27 town-wide budget deficit. FinCom Chair Crosby presented a spreadsheet analysis showing a $7.7 million town-wide shortfall, of which approximately $3.2 million is attributed to school-side costs and $4.5 million to the town side. The committee debated the validity of the benefit-cost allocation percentages and voted 5-0 to direct Superintendent Mike and Schools CFO John to sit with Town Finance Director Alicia to reconcile the numbers and return with an updated presentation the following week.

#school-budget Lead ▶ 0 min

FinCom Chair presents FY27 deficit analysis showing $7.7M town-wide shortfall

Alec Crosby walked through a detailed spreadsheet allocating the deficit 63% to schools and 37% to the town side, netting a ~$1.5M ask of the school budget.

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Finance Committee Chair Alec Crosby presented a spreadsheet analysis at a joint session with the School Committee and Select Board Chair Dan Fox. Key figures discussed:

  • FY26 baseline: Town departments $47,968,952; School budget $49,120,287; total ~$97.1M
  • Available revenue for FY27: approximately $96.5M, roughly $600,000 less than FY26
  • Revenue drivers: property tax/new growth up ~$2.1M; local receipts (interest income, excise tax) down ~$1M; free cash usage dropping from $7M to $5M creates a significant drag
  • Offsets before split: ~$740K abatement reserve, ~$2.5M state assessment offsets, $150K snow/ice reserve, ~$450K warrant articles, ~$636K Essex Aggie assessment

Crosby’s analysis of the six ‘Other General Government’ benefit lines (pension ARC, active health insurance, life insurance, retiree health insurance, PEC Medicare reimbursement, OPEB transfer) attributed roughly 63% of those costs to schools, yielding an implied total school budget of ~$61.3M vs. available revenue of ~$96.5M × 63% ≈ $60.8M. The resulting town-wide deficit was estimated at $7.7M, with $3.2M on the school side and $4.5M on the town side. A $1.5M reduction ask of the school budget was discussed as the working assumption.

Alec Crosby (Finance Committee Chair) · Dan Fox (Select Board Chair) · Molly (town finance staff, referenced) · Alicia (Town Finance Director, referenced)

Also on the agenda

#health-insurance ▶ 13 min

GIC rates released Friday shifted active health insurance estimate from 15% to 11% increase

School CFO noted a $350,000 discrepancy between town's GIC cost estimate and his own roster-based calculation, with an additional $350,000 cushion built in.

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A significant portion of the FY27 deficit discussion centered on health insurance costs:

  • Active health insurance line had been estimated at 15% growth; after GIC voted rates last Thursday, Alicia revised the estimate to 11%
  • School CFO calculated from the district’s own GIC roster a figure of $8.370M vs. the town’s figure of $8.71M — a ~$340,000 difference
  • An additional $350,000 GIC cushion was built into the town’s spreadsheet
  • Combined, the school CFO argued these two cushions (~$700,000) represent nearly half of the $1.5M reduction being requested
  • PEC Medicare reimbursement line also revised downward from 7% to 5% growth following last week’s news
  • Health insurance has grown at 2%, 2%, 6%, 6%, then 14% over recent years, with another 10%+ increase this year cited as a ‘perfect storm’

Alec Crosby (Finance Committee Chair) · Mike (School CFO/Business Manager) · Alicia (Town Finance Director, referenced)

#school-budget ▶ 18 min

School Committee debates 63/37 revenue-split framework and $1.5M reduction ask

Committee members questioned whether the allocation percentages were accurate and whether adopting a new framework mid-year was appropriate, while superintendent described the human impact.

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Extended deliberation among School Committee members, Superintendent John, and Finance Committee Chair Crosby:

Points of agreement:

  • The analytical framework of allocating shared benefit costs proportionally is sound in concept
  • An MOU between Select Board and School Committee to hold annual early-budget meetings already exists (signed around 2019-2020) but had not been followed
  • Future budget cycles should begin with a joint meeting in October
  • A multi-year budgeting approach (2-3 years) would help

Points of contention:

  • School CFO Mike disputed the input data, noting his own GIC roster calculation yields ~$700,000 less in school-side costs than the town’s estimate
  • School Committee member raised concern about changing the allocation framework mid-year and without prior joint deliberation
  • Superintendent John stated the ask would ‘impact classrooms 100%’ and that at $5M deficit before the trash fee or school ask, the town faced 50-60 employee cuts; the 1.5M school ask restored ~15 of those positions
  • Town side deficit: Before trash fee, ~$3.5M remained; the proposed trash fee (discussed at Select Board meeting the prior evening) would offset approximately $2M of that

Town-side cut scenario described by Crosby (without trash fee or school ask): Full shutdown of library, COA, Rec & Parks, cemetery; elimination of chief procurement officer, two police officers, three community planning staff, assessor senior clerk, two custodians, 6-8 DPW/facilities workers = 55-60 positions

Alec Crosby (Finance Committee Chair) · Dan Fox (Select Board Chair) · School Committee member (Jen) · School Committee member (Melissa) · School Committee member (Kate) · Superintendent John · Mike (School CFO)

#trash-dpw ▶ 38 min

Proposed trash fee discussed as partial offset to $3.5M town-side deficit

Select Board discussed a trash pickup fee the prior evening that would remove trash contract costs from the general fund budget, potentially restoring ~20 town positions.

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The trash collection fee proposal, discussed at the Select Board meeting the prior evening (March 11), was referenced as an offset to the town-side deficit:

  • The trash contract remains in the general fund budget; the fee would be charged to homeowners as an offset revenue source
  • Estimated to cover approximately $2-2.5M of the ~$3.5M town-side gap (after school ask)
  • With the trash fee, the town side deficit would fall to approximately $1.5M, representing ~20 positions or ~10% of town-side general fund employees
  • Finance Committee noted it had not yet deliberated on the trash fee — it is a Select Board decision
  • School Committee member Jen pressed for clarity on whether the trash fee was included in deficit figures; Crosby confirmed it was not yet incorporated

Alec Crosby (Finance Committee Chair) · Dan Fox (Select Board Chair) · School Committee member (Jen)

#override ▶ 57 min

School Committee chair endorses presenting a balanced budget in lockstep with town, supporting an override to restore cuts

School Committee chair argued the committee must present a balanced budget aligned with town revenues and then actively support a multi-year override rather than submit an unbalanced budget.

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School Committee Chair Al articulated the committee’s strategic dilemma:

  • The school committee is legally permitted to bring a higher request to Town Meeting, but doing so without a clear funding path is ‘a symbolic gesture, not a long-term governing strategy’
  • He stated his intention to support a balanced budget in lockstep with the town and then ‘do everything in my power to support an override to ensure those are all restored’
  • He noted that for any override to pass, school committee and select board must operate together: ‘This is one town. We live and we die together’
  • Select Board Chair Fox confirmed the select board is moving toward a tiered override approach, with Thatcher presenting scenarios
  • School Superintendent noted next year is projected to be ‘way worse’ and that this cannot be a band-aid solution
  • A prior speaker (public comment) referenced the existing 2019-2020 MOU between select board and school committee requiring annual joint budget meetings, noting it had not been enforced

School Committee Chair (Al) · Dan Fox (Select Board Chair) · Superintendent John · Mike (School CFO)

#school-budget ▶ 89 min

School Committee votes 5-0 to direct reconciliation of benefit cost figures with town finance director

Motion by Jen, seconded by Melissa, directing the superintendent and school CFO to meet with Alicia to reconcile numbers and return with an updated budget presentation next week.

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After extended deliberation, School Committee member Jen made a motion:

Motion: Direct Mike and John to work together with the town finance director to solidify the benefit cost numbers and return next week with a new presentation and budget reflecting whatever numbers Mike and Alicia agree to.

Roll call vote:

  • Jen: In favor
  • Henry: In favor
  • Melissa: In favor
  • Gabe: In favor
  • Al (Chair): In favor

Result: 5-0 in favor

The superintendent confirmed he is meeting with Finance Director Alicia the following day. The committee also discussed adding the override tier discussion as an agenda item for the following week’s meeting.

School Committee member (Jen) · School Committee member (Melissa) · School Committee Chair (Al) · Superintendent John · Mike (School CFO)

#public-comment ▶ 94 min

Public comment raises MOU compliance, override tier questions, and media access concerns

One speaker cited the existing but allegedly unenforced 2019-2020 MOU requiring annual joint budget meetings; another asked about inclusion in override ballot tiers.

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Public comment period included:

  1. Liam (identified as press/media): Requested the committee answer media email inquiries and keep the public informed about what will be requested in any override, noting he had been ‘trying to figure it out just like so many other people.’

  2. Resident (identified as Sarah or similar): Detailed knowledge of the 2019-2020 MOU signed between Select Board and School Committee requiring annual joint meetings with designees. Noted the MOU was drafted by Jason Silver; that in October 2024 she had texted the then-Select Board chair about it; and that the response was ‘an entirely different board is not bound to this MOU from years past.’ She argued the MOU exists, is not being adhered to, and that an MOU is an insufficient safeguard if boards routinely ignore it.

The committee also discussed internally:

  • Whether to include school-side budget needs in the select board’s tiered override structure
  • Whether the school committee has a standalone warrant article option
  • The superintendent stated he could produce a multi-year fiscal 28 projection within a week if needed

Liam (press, at mic) · Resident (at mic, referenced MOU) · School Committee Chair (Al) · Superintendent John

#admin-housekeeping ▶ 114 min

Meeting adjourned 5-0

Motion to adjourn made by Moses (school committee member), seconded by Henry, passed unanimously.

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Motion to adjourn made by committee member Moses, seconded by Henry. Roll call: Jen, Henry, Melissa, Kate, Al — all in favor. Meeting adjourned 5-0.

School Committee Chair (Al) · School Committee member (Moses) · School Committee member (Henry)

Tonight's record

1 decision ▾
  1. Approved motion directing superintendent and school CFO to work with town finance director to reconcile FY27 benefit cost figures and return with a budget presentation the following week
2 votes ▾
  • in favor (unanimous) Direct Mike and John to work with town finance director to solidify benefit cost numbers and return next week with a new budget presentation
  • in favor (unanimous) Adjourn
115 min full transcript ▾

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2:12 share of the deficit, it had to take a share of the deficit, it had to take a very<00:02:12.880> hard<00:02:13.280> look<00:02:13.680> at<00:02:13.880> what<00:02:14.000> was<00:02:14.160> driving<00:02:14.640> that very hard look at what was driving that very hard look at what was driving that deficit.<00:02:15.880> We've<00:02:16.080> talked<00:02:16.360> about<00:02:16.640> for<00:02:16.840> years deficit. We’ve talked about for years deficit. We’ve talked about for years about<00:02:17.880> how<00:02:18.840> there<00:02:19.080> are<00:02:19.640> other<00:02:19.959> general about how there are other general about how there are other general government<00:02:20.880> costs,<00:02:21.320> I'll<00:02:21.480> call,<00:02:21.800> which government costs, I’ll call, which government costs, I’ll call, which include<00:02:22.400> health<00:02:22.640> insurance,<00:02:23.120> the<00:02:23.240> largest, include health insurance, the largest, include health insurance, the largest, pension,<00:02:24.920> um<00:02:25.680> retirement<00:02:26.400> health<00:02:26.640> insurance pension, um retirement health insurance pension, um retirement health insurance for<00:02:27.280> for<00:02:27.440> retirees,<00:02:28.280> things<00:02:28.520> like<00:02:28.720> that,<00:02:29.600> um for for retirees, things like that, um for for retirees, things like that, um that<00:02:29.880> are<00:02:29.959> carried<00:02:30.440> on<00:02:30.640> the<00:02:30.720> town<00:02:31.080> side<00:02:31.320> of<00:02:31.400> the that are carried on the town side of the that are carried on the town side of the budget,<00:02:32.240> but<00:02:32.440> benefit<00:02:32.959> both<00:02:33.480> town<00:02:34.040> and budget, but benefit both town and budget, but benefit both town and school,<00:02:34.720> both<00:02:35.080> employees<00:02:35.760> and<00:02:35.920> retirees. school, both employees and retirees. school, both employees and retirees. Um<00:02:37.600> we've<00:02:37.800> always<00:02:38.040> heard<00:02:38.200> the<00:02:38.320> 60/40<00:02:39.120> split. Um we’ve always heard the 60/40 split. Um we’ve always heard the 60/40 split. I’ve<00:02:40.640> never<00:02:40.880> really<00:02:41.120> gotten<00:02:41.480> great<00:02:41.920> analysis I’ve never really gotten great analysis I’ve never really gotten great analysis in<00:02:42.760> past<00:02:43.200> years<00:02:43.520> on<00:02:43.720> that.<00:02:44.400> As<00:02:44.560> an<00:02:44.680> accountant, in past years on that. As an accountant, in past years on that. As an accountant, I<00:02:45.320> actually<00:02:45.640> like<00:02:45.880> to<00:02:46.000> see<00:02:46.680> line<00:02:47.000> by<00:02:47.200> line.<00:02:47.560> Can I actually like to see line by line. Can I actually like to see line by line. Can I<00:02:47.840> see<00:02:48.040> a<00:02:48.120> supportable<00:02:48.840> percentage?<00:02:49.959> Um I see a supportable percentage? Um I see a supportable percentage? Um so<00:02:51.120> when<00:02:51.280> we<00:02:51.560> when<00:02:51.680> we<00:02:51.800> started<00:02:52.160> looking<00:02:52.400> at so when we when we started looking at so when we when we started looking at this,<00:02:53.120> we<00:02:53.480> said,<00:02:53.840> "Okay,<00:02:54.120> what's<00:02:54.320> the this, we said, “Okay, what’s the this, we said, “Okay, what’s the town-wide<00:02:55.040> deficit?"<00:02:55.640> In<00:02:55.760> one<00:02:55.959> column,<00:02:56.240> I'll town-wide deficit?” In one column, I’ll town-wide deficit?” In one column, I’ll share<00:02:56.560> my<00:02:56.680> screen<00:02:57.040> here<00:02:57.240> just<00:02:57.400> to<00:02:57.480> get<00:02:57.600> us

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3:13 It might be a little small, but I’m not It might be a little small, but I’m not sure<00:03:13.280> if<00:03:13.400> you<00:03:13.480> guys<00:03:13.680> are<00:03:13.800> able<00:03:14.040> to<00:03:14.120> see sure if you guys are able to see sure if you guys are able to see uh<00:03:15.200> number<00:03:15.519> two Can you zoom in on the number two? I can Can you zoom in on the number two? I can zoom<00:03:22.480> in.<00:03:22.600> I'll<00:03:22.720> have<00:03:22.959> to<00:03:23.080> kind<00:03:23.280> of<00:03:23.360> go<00:03:23.480> left zoom in. I’ll have to kind of go left zoom in. I’ll have to kind of go left and<00:03:23.920> right<00:03:24.160> at<00:03:24.280> some<00:03:24.880> So,<00:03:25.880> very<00:03:26.200> simply,<00:03:26.959> if<00:03:27.120> we and right at some So, very simply, if we and right at some So, very simply, if we start<00:03:27.800> at<00:03:28.160> that<00:03:28.440> this<00:03:28.680> analysis<00:03:29.320> starts<00:03:29.840> at start at that this analysis starts at start at that this analysis starts at what<00:03:31.040> I'll<00:03:31.200> call<00:03:31.440> the<00:03:31.840> the<00:03:31.959> 2026<00:03:33.000> balanced what I’ll call the the 2026 balanced what I’ll call the the 2026 balanced operating<00:03:34.120> budget<00:03:34.519> without<00:03:34.959> debt<00:03:35.200> service. operating budget without debt service. operating budget without debt service. That<00:03:35.840> also<00:03:36.120> does<00:03:36.320> not<00:03:36.560> include<00:03:37.000> enterprise That also does not include enterprise That also does not include enterprise funds<00:03:38.000> for<00:03:38.200> people<00:03:38.480> that<00:03:38.640> like<00:03:38.840> to<00:03:39.400> check<00:03:39.680> the funds for people that like to check the funds for people that like to check the numbers<00:03:40.080> along<00:03:40.360> the<00:03:40.440> way,<00:03:40.720> so<00:03:40.920> I<00:03:40.959> like<00:03:41.080> to<00:03:41.160> be numbers along the way, so I like to be numbers along the way, so I like to be very<00:03:41.519> clear<00:03:41.840> there. very clear there. very clear there. Where<00:03:43.040> we<00:03:43.200> were<00:03:43.360> at<00:03:43.600> last<00:03:43.959> year,<00:03:44.800> all<00:03:45.120> town Where we were at last year, all town Where we were at last year, all town department<00:03:46.200> budgets<00:03:46.959> were<00:03:47.120> at<00:03:47.320> 47968952, department budgets were at 47968952, department budgets were at 47968952, and<00:03:50.160> the<00:03:50.239> school's<00:03:50.720> bottom<00:03:51.040> line<00:03:51.320> budget<00:03:51.960> was and the school’s bottom line budget was and the school’s bottom line budget was 49,120,287 49,120,287 49,120,287 for<00:03:54.680> a<00:03:54.760> total<00:03:55.120> of<00:03:55.240> a for a total of a for a total of a not<00:03:56.080> 97.1<00:03:57.120> million.

3:58 not 97.1 million. not 97.1 million. So,<00:03:58.400> where<00:03:58.520> we<00:03:58.640> landed<00:03:58.920> last<00:03:59.200> year<00:03:59.400> was<00:03:59.720> of<00:04:00.200> of So, where we landed last year was of of So, where we landed last year was of of that<00:04:01.120> revenue<00:04:01.560> figure<00:04:02.080> without<00:04:02.440> debt that revenue figure without debt that revenue figure without debt service,<00:04:03.040> without<00:04:03.360> enterprise<00:04:03.920> funds,<00:04:04.880> the service, without enterprise funds, the service, without enterprise funds, the schools<00:04:05.320> were<00:04:05.440> about<00:04:05.760> 51%<00:04:06.760> of<00:04:06.840> the<00:04:06.920> budget. schools were about 51% of the budget. schools were about 51% of the budget. We’ve<00:04:07.640> talked<00:04:07.920> about<00:04:08.120> this<00:04:08.360> 50/50<00:04:09.160> split.<00:04:10.080> Um We’ve talked about this 50/50 split. Um We’ve talked about this 50/50 split. Um Thatcher<00:04:11.080> has<00:04:11.240> talked<00:04:11.520> about<00:04:11.760> that.<00:04:12.440> Um Thatcher has talked about that. Um Thatcher has talked about that. Um This<00:04:13.560> the<00:04:13.720> finance<00:04:14.200> department<00:04:14.720> has<00:04:14.840> talked This the finance department has talked This the finance department has talked about<00:04:15.320> that<00:04:15.520> for<00:04:15.720> years,<00:04:16.079> splitting<00:04:16.480> revenues about that for years, splitting revenues about that for years, splitting revenues 50/50.<00:04:18.040> I<00:04:18.120> just<00:04:18.280> want<00:04:18.400> to<00:04:18.480> point<00:04:18.720> out<00:04:18.880> that<00:04:19.000> it 50/50. I just want to point out that it 50/50. I just want to point out that it was<00:04:19.239> 51/49<00:04:20.480> last<00:04:20.760> year.<00:04:21.239> And<00:04:21.480> and<00:04:21.720> over<00:04:21.920> the was 51/49 last year. And and over the was 51/49 last year. And and over the years,<00:04:22.400> I<00:04:22.520> I<00:04:22.640> looked<00:04:22.919> at<00:04:23.000> an<00:04:23.080> analysis<00:04:23.640> that years, I I looked at an analysis that years, I I looked at an analysis that went<00:04:23.960> back<00:04:24.320> as<00:04:24.919> as<00:04:25.160> early<00:04:25.520> as<00:04:25.720> fiscal<00:04:26.120> year went back as as early as fiscal year went back as as early as fiscal year ‘23, ‘23, ‘23, um<00:04:27.960> it<00:04:28.080> was<00:04:28.280> a<00:04:28.640> pretty<00:04:28.919> much<00:04:29.120> a<00:04:29.200> 50/50<00:04:29.800> split, um it was a pretty much a 50/50 split, um it was a pretty much a 50/50 split, but<00:04:30.640> there<00:04:30.840> are<00:04:31.120> obviously<00:04:31.600> some<00:04:31.960> years<00:04:32.800> where but there are obviously some years where but there are obviously some years where there’s<00:04:33.560> certain<00:04:34.000> needs<00:04:34.280> of<00:04:34.400> each<00:04:34.600> side<00:04:35.080> that there’s certain needs of each side that there’s certain needs of each side that outweigh<00:04:35.919> one<00:04:36.080> another.<00:04:36.400> So,<00:04:36.520> that<00:04:36.760> shifted outweigh one another. So, that shifted outweigh one another. So, that shifted over<00:04:37.400> the<00:04:37.520> years.<00:04:37.760> But,<00:04:38.400> over<00:04:38.640> the<00:04:38.720> last<00:04:38.960> 10 over the years. But, over the last 10 over the years. But, over the last 10 years,<00:04:39.320> it's<00:04:39.480> either<00:04:39.680> been<00:04:39.919> 51/49<00:04:40.880> or<00:04:40.960> 50.<00:04:41.640> So, years, it’s either been 51/49 or 50. So, years, it’s either been 51/49 or 50. So, it<00:04:42.480> it's<00:04:42.640> directional.<00:04:43.640> Alex,<00:04:44.200> if<00:04:44.400> we<00:04:44.520> have

4:44 it it’s directional. Alex, if we have it it’s directional. Alex, if we have questions,<00:04:45.200> do<00:04:45.280> you<00:04:45.360> want<00:04:45.520> us<00:04:45.640> to<00:04:45.720> hold<00:04:45.880> them questions, do you want us to hold them questions, do you want us to hold them to<00:04:46.120> the<00:04:46.240> end? to the end? to the end? » That<00:04:46.760> step<00:04:47.080> is<00:04:47.400> is<00:04:47.640> to<00:04:47.800> look<00:04:48.000> at » That step is is to look at » That step is is to look at what’s<00:04:48.960> available<00:04:49.480> for<00:04:49.640> revenue<00:04:50.080> this<00:04:50.360> year. what’s available for revenue this year. what’s available for revenue this year. Okay?<00:04:52.080> And<00:04:52.520> and<00:04:53.040> when<00:04:53.240> we<00:04:53.320> look Okay? And and when we look Okay? And and when we look [clears throat]<00:04:53.520> at<00:04:53.640> that [clears throat] at that [clears throat] at that » You<00:04:54.280> know,<00:04:54.320> Joe » You know, Joe » You know, Joe Yeah.<00:04:55.520> Yeah.<00:04:55.760> Jen<00:04:56.000> has<00:04:56.200> her<00:04:56.360> hand<00:04:56.640> raised,<00:04:56.919> and Yeah. Yeah. Jen has her hand raised, and Yeah. Yeah. Jen has her hand raised, and I<00:04:57.080> think<00:04:57.280> she's<00:04:57.520> trying<00:04:57.800> to<00:04:58.440> I'm<00:04:58.600> sure<00:04:59.000> to<00:04:59.160> say I think she’s trying to I’m sure to say I think she’s trying to I’m sure to say something.<00:05:00.320> Okay.<00:05:00.840> Can<00:05:01.040> you<00:05:01.360> hear<00:05:01.560> me? something. Okay. Can you hear me? something. Okay. Can you hear me? Can<00:05:02.480> you<00:05:02.560> hear<00:05:02.680> me?<00:05:03.120> I<00:05:03.320> can't<00:05:03.600> hear<00:05:03.800> you,<00:05:03.919> Jen. Can you hear me? I can’t hear you, Jen. Can you hear me? I can’t hear you, Jen. Raise<00:05:04.640> Raise<00:05:05.160> Raise<00:05:05.400> your<00:05:05.480> hand<00:05:05.600> for<00:05:05.720> us. Say something, Jen. Say something, Jen. Can<00:05:15.040> you<00:05:15.080> hear<00:05:15.200> me?<00:05:15.800> Yeah,<00:05:16.000> yeah,<00:05:16.240> now<00:05:16.400> we<00:05:16.520> can. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, now we can. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, now we can. So,<00:05:18.440> do<00:05:18.560> you<00:05:18.640> want<00:05:18.760> us<00:05:18.880> to<00:05:18.960> hold<00:05:19.080> questions<00:05:19.440> to So, do you want us to hold questions to So, do you want us to hold questions to the<00:05:19.680> end,<00:05:20.160> or<00:05:20.560> do<00:05:20.680> you<00:05:20.720> want<00:05:20.919> us<00:05:21.120> to<00:05:21.240> ask<00:05:21.680> as the end, or do you want us to ask as the end, or do you want us to ask as you’re<00:05:21.880> going<00:05:22.080> along?<00:05:23.000> It'd<00:05:23.120> be<00:05:23.200> helpful<00:05:23.560> to you’re going along? It’d be helpful to you’re going along? It’d be helpful to hold<00:05:23.880> them<00:05:24.000> till<00:05:24.120> the<00:05:24.240> end. hold them till the end. hold them till the end. Okay,<00:05:25.320> just<00:05:25.560> cuz<00:05:25.720> I<00:05:25.800> don't<00:05:26.200> understand<00:05:26.720> where Okay, just cuz I don’t understand where Okay, just cuz I don’t understand where you<00:05:26.919> got<00:05:27.120> the<00:05:27.200> numbers<00:05:27.520> so<00:05:27.640> far.<00:05:27.880> So,<00:05:28.400> okay. you got the numbers so far. So, okay. you got the numbers so far. So, okay. The<00:05:29.760> schools'<00:05:30.200> bottom-line<00:05:30.760> budget<00:05:31.160> from

5:31 The schools’ bottom-line budget from The schools’ bottom-line budget from last<00:05:31.680> year last year last year 49,120,287. 49,120,287. 49,120,287. That’s<00:05:34.680> in<00:05:34.760> the<00:05:34.880> FinCom<00:05:35.320> handbook. That’s in the FinCom handbook. That’s in the FinCom handbook. And<00:05:37.360> then<00:05:38.200> this<00:05:38.440> is And then this is And then this is the<00:05:40.160> town<00:05:40.480> side<00:05:40.720> budget<00:05:41.040> without<00:05:41.360> debt the town side budget without debt the town side budget without debt service<00:05:42.080> and<00:05:42.200> without<00:05:42.520> enterprise<00:05:43.040> funds service and without enterprise funds service and without enterprise funds from<00:05:45.280> the<00:05:45.360> FinCom<00:05:45.800> handbook. from the FinCom handbook. from the FinCom handbook. Okay. Okay. Okay. All<00:05:49.320> right.<00:05:49.800> So,<00:05:49.880> So, All right. So, So, All right. So, So, that<00:05:51.400> was<00:05:51.560> what<00:05:51.680> was<00:05:51.840> available<00:05:52.360> for<00:05:53.000> town<00:05:53.400> and that was what was available for town and that was what was available for town and school<00:05:54.040> operating<00:05:54.560> budgets<00:05:54.920> last<00:05:55.240> year. school operating budgets last year. school operating budgets last year. The<00:05:56.560> revenue<00:05:57.000> is<00:05:57.160> one<00:05:57.400> piece<00:05:57.680> of<00:05:57.840> what's The revenue is one piece of what’s The revenue is one piece of what’s available<00:05:58.520> this<00:05:58.760> year,<00:05:58.920> and<00:05:59.000> then<00:05:59.120> there's available this year, and then there’s available this year, and then there’s offsets<00:05:59.880> to<00:06:00.000> revenue.<00:06:00.400> So,<00:06:01.400> we've<00:06:01.560> talked offsets to revenue. So, we’ve talked offsets to revenue. So, we’ve talked about<00:06:02.040> this<00:06:02.280> net<00:06:02.800> approximately<00:06:03.600> 600,000 about this net approximately 600,000 about this net approximately 600,000 less<00:06:04.960> of<00:06:05.120> available<00:06:05.600> revenue<00:06:06.160> this<00:06:06.400> year.<00:06:07.040> I less of available revenue this year. I less of available revenue this year. I kind<00:06:07.320> of<00:06:07.400> want<00:06:07.520> to<00:06:07.600> walk<00:06:07.840> through<00:06:08.000> the<00:06:08.080> details kind of want to walk through the details kind of want to walk through the details of<00:06:08.600> that<00:06:08.800> cuz<00:06:08.960> I<00:06:09.000> think<00:06:09.920> maybe<00:06:10.240> you<00:06:10.400> all<00:06:10.560> have of that cuz I think maybe you all have of that cuz I think maybe you all have some<00:06:10.880> questions<00:06:11.320> and<00:06:11.440> maybe<00:06:11.920> some<00:06:12.120> other some questions and maybe some other some questions and maybe some other people<00:06:12.600> watching<00:06:12.960> select<00:06:13.280> board<00:06:13.480> meetings people watching select board meetings people watching select board meetings have<00:06:13.880> had<00:06:14.000> some<00:06:14.160> questions. have had some questions. have had some questions. Uh Uh Uh so,<00:06:16.520> where<00:06:16.680> do<00:06:16.840> Where<00:06:17.000> do<00:06:17.120> we<00:06:17.240> start?<00:06:17.880> Um<00:06:18.720> one

6:18 so, where do Where do we start? Um one so, where do Where do we start? Um one question<00:06:19.320> I've<00:06:19.480> heard<00:06:19.880> is question I’ve heard is question I’ve heard is there<00:06:21.760> was<00:06:21.880> a<00:06:21.919> presentation<00:06:22.640> by<00:06:22.840> Thatcher there was a presentation by Thatcher there was a presentation by Thatcher last<00:06:23.680> week,<00:06:23.960> I<00:06:24.000> think,<00:06:24.520> and<00:06:25.280> there<00:06:25.360> was<00:06:25.480> a<00:06:25.520> $101 last week, I think, and there was a $101 last week, I think, and there was a $101 million<00:06:26.520> number,<00:06:27.400> and<00:06:27.560> people<00:06:27.840> are<00:06:27.960> wondering million number, and people are wondering million number, and people are wondering why<00:06:29.360> is<00:06:29.520> the<00:06:29.680> available<00:06:30.200> revenue<00:06:30.560> just<00:06:30.760> split why is the available revenue just split why is the available revenue just split between<00:06:31.400> town<00:06:31.680> and<00:06:31.760> schools<00:06:32.120> 96.5. between town and schools 96.5. between town and schools 96.5. Okay.<00:06:34.640> So,<00:06:34.800> before<00:06:35.160> we<00:06:35.280> start<00:06:35.760> divvying<00:06:36.240> up Okay. So, before we start divvying up Okay. So, before we start divvying up this<00:06:36.680> revenue<00:06:37.240> for<00:06:37.440> operating<00:06:37.880> budgets, this revenue for operating budgets, this revenue for operating budgets, there<00:06:38.640> are<00:06:38.840> some<00:06:39.120> things<00:06:39.440> that<00:06:39.640> offset<00:06:40.120> that there are some things that offset that there are some things that offset that revenue<00:06:40.640> before<00:06:41.000> we<00:06:41.120> even<00:06:41.360> get<00:06:41.600> there,<00:06:42.080> right? revenue before we even get there, right? revenue before we even get there, right? Allowance<00:06:43.480> for<00:06:43.640> abatements.<00:06:44.320> So,<00:06:44.480> whatever Allowance for abatements. So, whatever Allowance for abatements. So, whatever your<00:06:44.919> property<00:06:45.320> tax<00:06:45.640> revenue<00:06:45.960> is<00:06:46.120> every<00:06:46.320> year, your property tax revenue is every year, your property tax revenue is every year, before<00:06:47.160> you<00:06:47.240> start<00:06:47.520> allocating<00:06:48.000> that<00:06:48.240> out, before you start allocating that out, before you start allocating that out, you<00:06:48.600> have<00:06:48.800> to<00:06:48.880> put<00:06:49.040> aside<00:06:49.360> a<00:06:49.400> reserve<00:06:49.880> for you have to put aside a reserve for you have to put aside a reserve for people<00:06:50.280> that<00:06:50.440> request<00:06:51.080> property<00:06:51.440> tax people that request property tax people that request property tax abatements.<00:06:52.560> That<00:06:52.800> decreased<00:06:53.240> it<00:06:53.320> by<00:06:53.440> about abatements. That decreased it by about abatements. That decreased it by about 740<00:06:54.480> grand. 740 grand. 740 grand. Any<00:06:55.960> state<00:06:56.440> aid<00:06:56.680> you<00:06:56.840> get<00:06:57.160> every<00:06:57.440> year,<00:06:57.840> the Any state aid you get every year, the Any state aid you get every year, the net<00:06:58.560> amount<00:06:58.919> of<00:06:59.040> state<00:06:59.320> aid<00:06:59.800> is<00:06:59.960> offset<00:07:00.440> by net amount of state aid is offset by net amount of state aid is offset by direct<00:07:01.240> state<00:07:01.680> assessment<00:07:02.360> offsets<00:07:02.919> for direct state assessment offsets for direct state assessment offsets for things<00:07:03.440> that<00:07:03.919> are<00:07:04.080> not<00:07:04.400> in<00:07:04.520> the<00:07:04.600> operating

7:05 things that are not in the operating things that are not in the operating budget.<00:07:05.680> That<00:07:05.880> was<00:07:06.000> about<00:07:06.280> 2.5<00:07:06.919> million. budget. That was about 2.5 million. budget. That was about 2.5 million. There’s<00:07:08.280> a<00:07:08.320> snow<00:07:08.720> and<00:07:08.880> ice<00:07:09.160> reserve<00:07:09.600> funding, There’s a snow and ice reserve funding, There’s a snow and ice reserve funding, which<00:07:10.320> is<00:07:10.440> outside<00:07:10.840> of<00:07:10.919> the<00:07:10.960> general<00:07:11.280> fund, which is outside of the general fund, which is outside of the general fund, small,<00:07:12.240> 150<00:07:12.800> grand. small, 150 grand. small, 150 grand. There’s<00:07:14.280> two<00:07:14.800> tax<00:07:15.280> levy<00:07:15.560> funded<00:07:15.919> warrant There’s two tax levy funded warrant There’s two tax levy funded warrant articles<00:07:17.040> that<00:07:17.760> have<00:07:17.919> at<00:07:18.040> least<00:07:18.320> been<00:07:19.000> in<00:07:19.160> the articles that have at least been in the articles that have at least been in the warrant<00:07:19.680> at<00:07:19.800> the<00:07:19.880> exact<00:07:20.240> same<00:07:20.360> amounts<00:07:20.720> for warrant at the exact same amounts for warrant at the exact same amounts for the<00:07:20.840> last<00:07:21.120> 10<00:07:21.280> years<00:07:21.560> since<00:07:21.760> I've<00:07:21.919> been the last 10 years since I’ve been the last 10 years since I’ve been involved,<00:07:22.440> probably<00:07:22.919> dating<00:07:23.240> back<00:07:23.480> before involved, probably dating back before involved, probably dating back before that,<00:07:24.160> about<00:07:24.440> 450<00:07:25.080> grand.<00:07:25.960> And<00:07:26.080> then<00:07:26.200> there's that, about 450 grand. And then there’s that, about 450 grand. And then there’s the<00:07:26.520> Essex<00:07:27.000> Aggie<00:07:27.400> school<00:07:27.840> article<00:07:28.240> funding, the Essex Aggie school article funding, the Essex Aggie school article funding, which<00:07:28.919> is<00:07:29.040> also<00:07:29.280> an<00:07:29.400> article<00:07:29.840> that<00:07:30.000> doesn't<00:07:30.280> go which is also an article that doesn’t go which is also an article that doesn’t go into<00:07:30.560> the<00:07:30.640> general<00:07:31.000> fund<00:07:31.360> budget.<00:07:32.160> That's into the general fund budget. That’s into the general fund budget. That’s about<00:07:32.640> 636,000. about 636,000. about 636,000. So,<00:07:34.360> I<00:07:34.400> know<00:07:34.520> that<00:07:34.760> came<00:07:35.000> up<00:07:35.360> at<00:07:35.560> your<00:07:35.760> meeting. So, I know that came up at your meeting. So, I know that came up at your meeting. So,<00:07:37.560> believe<00:07:37.960> me,<00:07:38.120> as<00:07:38.280> a<00:07:38.320> CPA<00:07:38.919> that's<00:07:39.160> working So, believe me, as a CPA that’s working So, believe me, as a CPA that’s working closely<00:07:39.800> with<00:07:39.960> this,<00:07:40.680> if<00:07:40.800> there's<00:07:41.000> questions closely with this, if there’s questions closely with this, if there’s questions about<00:07:41.680> numbers<00:07:42.080> reconciling,<00:07:42.920> I<00:07:43.040> am about numbers reconciling, I am about numbers reconciling, I am reconciling<00:07:43.920> everything<00:07:44.360> to<00:07:44.520> a<00:07:44.560> dollar.<00:07:45.000> So, reconciling everything to a dollar. So, reconciling everything to a dollar. So, that’s<00:07:46.160> that's<00:07:46.520> the<00:07:46.640> split<00:07:47.160> between<00:07:47.560> town that’s that’s the split between town that’s that’s the split between town side<00:07:48.080> and<00:07:48.160> school<00:07:48.440> side,<00:07:49.160> right?<00:07:49.920> Another<00:07:50.280> way

7:50 side and school side, right? Another way side and school side, right? Another way to<00:07:50.520> look<00:07:50.760> at<00:07:51.160> the<00:07:51.240> $600,000<00:07:52.200> difference<00:07:52.640> of to look at the $600,000 difference of to look at the $600,000 difference of available<00:07:53.200> revenue<00:07:54.000> compared<00:07:54.360> to<00:07:54.440> last<00:07:54.800> year available revenue compared to last year available revenue compared to last year would<00:07:55.800> be<00:07:55.960> to<00:07:56.080> look<00:07:56.320> at<00:07:56.680> that<00:07:56.920> available would be to look at that available would be to look at that available revenue<00:07:57.840> and<00:07:57.960> break<00:07:58.240> it<00:07:58.360> down<00:07:58.880> into<00:07:59.080> the revenue and break it down into the revenue and break it down into the changes<00:07:59.800> in<00:07:59.960> revenue<00:08:00.800> and<00:08:00.920> the<00:08:01.040> changes<00:08:01.560> in changes in revenue and the changes in changes in revenue and the changes in those<00:08:02.000> offsets<00:08:02.600> year<00:08:02.800> over<00:08:03.000> year<00:08:03.560> that<00:08:03.760> net<00:08:04.080> to those offsets year over year that net to those offsets year over year that net to the<00:08:04.280> $600,000<00:08:05.360> less.<00:08:06.240> So,<00:08:06.360> very<00:08:06.680> quickly<00:08:07.160> I've the $600,000 less. So, very quickly I’ve the $600,000 less. So, very quickly I’ve been<00:08:07.480> through<00:08:07.680> this<00:08:07.840> probably<00:08:08.160> five<00:08:08.520> times<00:08:08.880> in been through this probably five times in been through this probably five times in the<00:08:09.000> last<00:08:09.320> 6<00:08:09.560> months,<00:08:10.000> but<00:08:10.360> I'll<00:08:10.480> do<00:08:10.600> it<00:08:10.680> again. the last 6 months, but I’ll do it again. the last 6 months, but I’ll do it again. Um<00:08:11.800> property<00:08:12.240> tax<00:08:12.600> revenue,<00:08:13.280> prop<00:08:13.600> two<00:08:13.760> and<00:08:13.880> a Um property tax revenue, prop two and a Um property tax revenue, prop two and a half half half plus<00:08:15.240> new<00:08:15.440> growth<00:08:15.880> went<00:08:16.080> up<00:08:16.240> by<00:08:16.400> about<00:08:16.720> 2.1 plus new growth went up by about 2.1 plus new growth went up by about 2.1 million. million. million. Local<00:08:19.280> receipts<00:08:19.840> forecasted<00:08:20.720> came<00:08:21.040> down<00:08:21.600> by Local receipts forecasted came down by Local receipts forecasted came down by about<00:08:22.000> a<00:08:22.040> million<00:08:22.440> this<00:08:22.680> year.<00:08:23.280> That<00:08:23.480> was about a million this year. That was about a million this year. That was largely<00:08:24.160> driven<00:08:24.520> by<00:08:24.760> interest<00:08:25.280> income,<00:08:26.320> which largely driven by interest income, which largely driven by interest income, which we’ve<00:08:27.320> looked<00:08:27.600> at<00:08:27.800> year-to-date<00:08:28.560> interest we’ve looked at year-to-date interest we’ve looked at year-to-date interest rates<00:08:29.160> have<00:08:29.320> come<00:08:29.520> down,<00:08:30.240> the<00:08:30.360> amount rates have come down, the amount rates have come down, the amount invested<00:08:31.360> has<00:08:31.600> come<00:08:31.760> down.<00:08:32.760> Um<00:08:32.919> it's<00:08:33.080> also invested has come down. Um it’s also invested has come down. Um it’s also driven<00:08:33.800> by,<00:08:34.240> I<00:08:34.320> believe,<00:08:35.039> some<00:08:35.280> of<00:08:35.360> the<00:08:35.800> excise

8:36 driven by, I believe, some of the excise driven by, I believe, some of the excise tax<00:08:36.640> on<00:08:36.800> vehicles. tax on vehicles. tax on vehicles. Remember<00:08:38.479> when<00:08:38.640> we're<00:08:38.840> estimating<00:08:39.400> these Remember when we’re estimating these Remember when we’re estimating these things,<00:08:40.360> you<00:08:40.479> cannot<00:08:40.919> overestimate things, you cannot overestimate things, you cannot overestimate revenues.<00:08:42.159> That's<00:08:42.520> that's<00:08:42.760> a<00:08:42.840> recipe<00:08:43.280> for revenues. That’s that’s a recipe for revenues. That’s that’s a recipe for budgeting<00:08:43.880> disaster.<00:08:44.400> So,<00:08:44.520> you<00:08:44.600> have<00:08:44.800> to<00:08:44.880> be<00:08:45.000> a budgeting disaster. So, you have to be a budgeting disaster. So, you have to be a little<00:08:45.320> bit<00:08:45.480> conservative. little bit conservative. little bit conservative. Um<00:08:47.640> enterprise<00:08:48.280> funds<00:08:48.760> reimbursement<00:08:49.720> of Um enterprise funds reimbursement of Um enterprise funds reimbursement of town<00:08:50.320> costs.<00:08:50.880> So,<00:08:51.040> what<00:08:51.160> that<00:08:51.400> means<00:08:51.680> is<00:08:51.800> that town costs. So, what that means is that town costs. So, what that means is that water<00:08:52.760> and<00:08:52.920> sewer<00:08:53.600> and<00:08:54.240> um water and sewer and um water and sewer and um and<00:08:55.480> department<00:08:55.960> or<00:08:56.000> the<00:08:56.120> rec<00:08:56.360> department, and department or the rec department, and department or the rec department, they<00:08:57.320> reimburse<00:08:57.839> the<00:08:57.960> town<00:08:58.320> for<00:08:58.440> some<00:08:58.600> of<00:08:58.680> the they reimburse the town for some of the they reimburse the town for some of the costs<00:08:59.160> it<00:08:59.280> pays<00:08:59.640> for<00:08:59.960> on<00:09:00.040> their<00:09:00.200> behalf<00:09:00.640> that costs it pays for on their behalf that costs it pays for on their behalf that their<00:09:00.960> enterprise<00:09:01.400> funds<00:09:01.640> don't.<00:09:02.280> That<00:09:02.520> was their enterprise funds don’t. That was their enterprise funds don’t. That was additional<00:09:03.120> revenue. additional revenue. additional revenue. This<00:09:04.920> one's<00:09:05.160> the<00:09:05.280> big<00:09:05.560> drag.<00:09:06.320> Okay,<00:09:06.600> we've This one’s the big drag. Okay, we’ve This one’s the big drag. Okay, we’ve talked<00:09:07.040> about<00:09:07.320> free<00:09:07.560> cash<00:09:08.120> challenges<00:09:09.320> for talked about free cash challenges for talked about free cash challenges for the<00:09:09.520> last<00:09:09.880> few<00:09:10.040> years<00:09:10.839> and<00:09:11.080> the<00:09:11.240> reliance<00:09:11.839> on the last few years and the reliance on the last few years and the reliance on free<00:09:12.200> cash<00:09:12.560> has<00:09:12.680> been<00:09:12.839> a<00:09:12.880> recurring free cash has been a recurring free cash has been a recurring If<00:09:14.880> we're<00:09:15.040> only<00:09:15.280> using<00:09:15.640> 5<00:09:15.960> million,<00:09:16.360> which<00:09:16.800> I If we’re only using 5 million, which I If we’re only using 5 million, which I believe<00:09:17.240> there's<00:09:17.680> about<00:09:18.040> five<00:09:18.320> and<00:09:18.440> a<00:09:18.480> half<00:09:18.920> is believe there’s about five and a half is believe there’s about five and a half is the<00:09:19.200> estimate<00:09:19.600> as<00:09:19.760> to<00:09:19.839> what's<00:09:20.080> available. the estimate as to what’s available. the estimate as to what’s available. We’re<00:09:21.320> only<00:09:21.480> using<00:09:21.760> 5<00:09:22.080> million<00:09:22.360> of<00:09:22.480> that<00:09:22.720> for

9:22 We’re only using 5 million of that for We’re only using 5 million of that for the<00:09:22.920> operating<00:09:23.360> budget.<00:09:24.160> If<00:09:24.280> we<00:09:24.400> used<00:09:24.680> seven the operating budget. If we used seven the operating budget. If we used seven last<00:09:25.400> year,<00:09:25.600> right<00:09:25.800> away<00:09:26.040> that's<00:09:26.360> eating<00:09:26.600> up last year, right away that’s eating up last year, right away that’s eating up the<00:09:26.839> property<00:09:27.240> tax<00:09:27.520> revenue,<00:09:28.080> right?<00:09:28.800> So, the property tax revenue, right? So, the property tax revenue, right? So, that’s<00:09:29.120> a<00:09:29.160> big<00:09:29.360> challenge.<00:09:29.760> If<00:09:29.880> that<00:09:30.040> was that’s a big challenge. If that was that’s a big challenge. If that was even,<00:09:30.960> then<00:09:31.080> we<00:09:31.200> would<00:09:31.360> have<00:09:31.560> more<00:09:31.800> money<00:09:32.080> to even, then we would have more money to even, then we would have more money to split<00:09:32.480> between<00:09:32.839> the<00:09:32.920> two<00:09:33.120> sides,<00:09:33.720> right? split between the two sides, right? split between the two sides, right? Additional<00:09:35.200> state<00:09:35.640> aid<00:09:35.920> came<00:09:36.240> up,<00:09:36.960> but<00:09:37.120> then Additional state aid came up, but then Additional state aid came up, but then that<00:09:37.560> offset<00:09:38.560> kind<00:09:38.760> of<00:09:39.120> de-<00:09:39.320> de-<00:09:39.640> decreased that offset kind of de- de- decreased that offset kind of de- de- decreased the<00:09:40.160> piece<00:09:40.480> of<00:09:40.600> it. the piece of it. the piece of it. The<00:09:41.840> allowance<00:09:42.200> for<00:09:42.320> abatements<00:09:42.840> came<00:09:43.040> up<00:09:43.200> a The allowance for abatements came up a The allowance for abatements came up a bit.<00:09:44.040> I<00:09:44.120> think<00:09:44.520> we<00:09:44.720> all<00:09:44.840> know<00:09:44.960> there's<00:09:45.160> been<00:09:45.280> a bit. I think we all know there’s been a bit. I think we all know there’s been a lot<00:09:45.560> of<00:09:45.760> news<00:09:46.000> about<00:09:46.240> abatements<00:09:46.680> the<00:09:46.760> last lot of news about abatements the last lot of news about abatements the last few<00:09:47.160> years,<00:09:47.480> so<00:09:48.000> I<00:09:48.080> think<00:09:48.280> that<00:09:48.440> reserve<00:09:48.840> is<00:09:49.040> is few years, so I think that reserve is is few years, so I think that reserve is is pretty<00:09:49.480> well<00:09:49.720> thought<00:09:50.000> out<00:09:50.240> by<00:09:50.320> the<00:09:50.440> finance pretty well thought out by the finance pretty well thought out by the finance team.<00:09:51.280> And<00:09:51.440> it's<00:09:51.560> also<00:09:51.800> the<00:09:51.920> tax<00:09:52.200> exemptions. team. And it’s also the tax exemptions. team. And it’s also the tax exemptions. Tax<00:09:53.480> exemptions<00:09:54.240> as<00:09:54.400> well. Tax exemptions as well. Tax exemptions as well. Um<00:09:56.560> increase<00:09:57.040> in<00:09:57.120> the<00:09:57.200> school<00:09:57.480> assessment<00:09:58.000> was Um increase in the school assessment was Um increase in the school assessment was actually<00:09:58.400> pretty<00:09:58.640> small.<00:09:59.680> And<00:09:59.800> I<00:09:59.840> think<00:10:00.040> the actually pretty small. And I think the actually pretty small. And I think the snow<00:10:00.440> and<00:10:00.560> ice<00:10:00.760> reserve<00:10:01.160> was<00:10:01.320> not<00:10:01.600> funded<00:10:01.960> last snow and ice reserve was not funded last snow and ice reserve was not funded last year,<00:10:02.480> but<00:10:02.600> I<00:10:02.680> think<00:10:02.920> after<00:10:03.200> this<00:10:03.440> year<00:10:03.600> maybe year, but I think after this year maybe year, but I think after this year maybe we<00:10:04.000> need<00:10:04.200> to<00:10:04.320> refund<00:10:04.760> it<00:10:04.880> a<00:10:04.920> little<00:10:05.120> bit.<00:10:05.880> Um<00:10:06.360> so we need to refund it a little bit. Um so we need to refund it a little bit. Um so that’s<00:10:06.800> where<00:10:06.920> the<00:10:07.000> 600,000<00:10:07.760> comes<00:10:08.040> from.

10:08 that’s where the 600,000 comes from. that’s where the 600,000 comes from. It’s<00:10:08.640> It's<00:10:08.760> actually<00:10:09.080> pretty<00:10:09.280> simple<00:10:09.680> if<00:10:09.840> you It’s It’s actually pretty simple if you It’s It’s actually pretty simple if you if<00:10:10.360> you<00:10:10.480> look<00:10:10.640> back<00:10:10.920> at<00:10:11.040> the<00:10:11.280> kind<00:10:11.480> of<00:10:11.560> summary if you look back at the kind of summary if you look back at the kind of summary tab.<00:10:12.800> We<00:10:12.880> had<00:10:13.000> 97.1<00:10:14.040> million<00:10:14.320> to<00:10:14.400> split tab. We had 97.1 million to split tab. We had 97.1 million to split between<00:10:15.040> town<00:10:15.280> and<00:10:15.360> schools<00:10:15.720> last<00:10:16.000> year,<00:10:16.640> and between town and schools last year, and between town and schools last year, and we<00:10:16.800> have<00:10:16.920> $600,000<00:10:17.840> left.<00:10:18.160> We<00:10:18.280> know<00:10:18.640> both<00:10:18.960> town we have $600,000 left. We know both town we have $600,000 left. We know both town and<00:10:19.360> schools<00:10:19.800> have<00:10:20.440> union<00:10:20.760> contracts<00:10:21.360> that<00:10:21.520> go and schools have union contracts that go and schools have union contracts that go up<00:10:21.920> by<00:10:22.080> at<00:10:22.240> least<00:10:22.640> 2<00:10:22.800> to<00:10:22.920> 3%<00:10:23.560> probably<00:10:23.880> more<00:10:24.160> in up by at least 2 to 3% probably more in up by at least 2 to 3% probably more in some<00:10:24.520> years.<00:10:25.120> We<00:10:25.240> have<00:10:25.360> steps<00:10:25.800> and<00:10:25.960> lanes<00:10:26.360> on some years. We have steps and lanes on some years. We have steps and lanes on both<00:10:26.720> sides.<00:10:27.760> We<00:10:27.880> have<00:10:28.200> significant<00:10:29.400> benefits both sides. We have significant benefits both sides. We have significant benefits increases.<00:10:30.640> We<00:10:30.720> have<00:10:30.880> all<00:10:31.000> sorts<00:10:31.280> of<00:10:31.360> things, increases. We have all sorts of things, increases. We have all sorts of things, inflation,<00:10:32.200> right?<00:10:32.440> We've<00:10:32.560> talked<00:10:32.800> about inflation, right? We’ve talked about inflation, right? We’ve talked about this.<00:10:33.560> Read<00:10:33.800> the<00:10:33.880> FinCom<00:10:34.400> handbook<00:10:35.560> um<00:10:35.640> or<00:10:35.720> not this. Read the FinCom handbook um or not this. Read the FinCom handbook um or not the<00:10:36.000> handbook,<00:10:36.400> the<00:10:36.640> report. the handbook, the report. the handbook, the report. Um<00:10:37.840> I've<00:10:38.000> referenced<00:10:38.440> all<00:10:38.560> of<00:10:38.640> this<00:10:38.800> for<00:10:38.960> like Um I’ve referenced all of this for like Um I’ve referenced all of this for like three<00:10:39.560> three<00:10:39.720> years<00:10:39.960> now. three three years now. three three years now. Um<00:10:41.480> so<00:10:41.560> that<00:10:41.760> creates<00:10:42.000> a<00:10:42.080> huge<00:10:42.640> challenge, Um so that creates a huge challenge, Um so that creates a huge challenge, right?<00:10:44.040> So<00:10:44.640> where<00:10:44.880> we<00:10:45.040> focused<00:10:45.560> is<00:10:45.920> column<00:10:46.320> L right? So where we focused is column L right? So where we focused is column L to<00:10:47.000> start.<00:10:47.800> So<00:10:47.960> the<00:10:48.120> town-wide<00:10:48.839> available to start. So the town-wide available to start. So the town-wide available revenue<00:10:49.920> before<00:10:50.240> we<00:10:50.360> split<00:10:50.680> between<00:10:51.040> town revenue before we split between town revenue before we split between town side<00:10:51.520> and<00:10:51.640> schools<00:10:52.520> is<00:10:52.640> about<00:10:52.880> 96.5<00:10:54.160> million.

10:55 side and schools is about 96.5 million. side and schools is about 96.5 million. Okay? Okay? Okay? What<00:10:58.000> I<00:10:58.200> received,<00:10:59.200> Molly<00:10:59.600> gave<00:10:59.800> me<00:10:59.880> this What I received, Molly gave me this What I received, Molly gave me this number,<00:11:00.440> it<00:11:00.520> was<00:11:00.640> an<00:11:00.760> updated<00:11:01.240> number,<00:11:01.800> your number, it was an updated number, your number, it was an updated number, your your<00:11:02.240> starting<00:11:02.880> point<00:11:03.160> this<00:11:03.400> year<00:11:03.640> was<00:11:03.960> 50 your starting point this year was 50 your starting point this year was 50 million<00:11:05.520> 809<00:11:06.240> 363<00:11:07.240> before<00:11:07.600> it<00:11:07.680> came<00:11:07.880> down. million 809 363 before it came down. million 809 363 before it came down. Does<00:11:08.240> that<00:11:08.480> seem<00:11:08.720> accurate<00:11:09.160> to<00:11:09.280> you<00:11:09.440> all?<00:11:09.800> I Does that seem accurate to you all? I Does that seem accurate to you all? I received<00:11:10.520> a<00:11:10.560> couple<00:11:10.880> figures<00:11:11.880> at<00:11:12.040> some<00:11:12.320> point, received a couple figures at some point, received a couple figures at some point, but<00:11:12.839> I<00:11:12.960> I<00:11:13.040> think<00:11:13.240> we<00:11:13.360> took<00:11:13.560> it<00:11:13.680> from<00:11:14.480> a<00:11:14.560> document but I I think we took it from a document but I I think we took it from a document that<00:11:15.400> was<00:11:15.880> sent<00:11:16.240> out. That. That. So. So. So. This<00:11:20.880> one<00:11:21.080> I<00:11:21.160> can<00:11:21.400> bring<00:11:22.080> the<00:11:22.200> town<00:11:22.440> to<00:11:22.520> bring This one I can bring the town to bring This one I can bring the town to bring it<00:11:22.800> up.<00:11:23.120> I'm<00:11:23.160> going<00:11:23.280> to<00:11:23.360> bring<00:11:23.520> it<00:11:23.600> up. it up. I’m going to bring it up. it up. I’m going to bring it up. Um I should be able to bring that up. I should be able to bring that up. Uh I mean to we have offsets in ours? Like I mean to we have offsets in ours? Like circuit<00:11:36.760> breaker<00:11:37.000> offset?<00:11:37.960> Right.<00:11:38.240> This<00:11:38.600> is circuit breaker offset? Right. This is circuit breaker offset? Right. This is only<00:11:38.920> the<00:11:39.120> the<00:11:39.440> That's<00:11:39.640> none<00:11:39.880> of<00:11:40.000> that.

11:40 only the the That’s none of that. only the the That’s none of that. » Yeah,<00:11:40.720> not<00:11:40.920> included<00:11:41.320> any<00:11:41.520> of<00:11:41.640> that.<00:11:42.200> Got<00:11:42.400> you. » Yeah, not included any of that. Got you. » Yeah, not included any of that. Got you. And<00:11:42.680> you<00:11:42.800> found<00:11:43.160> 1.7-ish<00:11:44.520> to<00:11:44.680> get<00:11:44.920> to<00:11:45.040> level. And you found 1.7-ish to get to level. And you found 1.7-ish to get to level. Correct. Correct. Correct. » That’s<00:11:46.760> about<00:11:47.000> 1.7<00:11:47.760> for<00:11:47.880> the<00:11:48.040> So,<00:11:48.280> I<00:11:48.360> had » That’s about 1.7 for the So, I had » That’s about 1.7 for the So, I had 50,736. 50,736. 50,736. Is<00:11:50.280> that<00:11:50.400> what<00:11:50.480> you<00:11:50.560> were<00:11:50.600> showing? Is that what you were showing? Is that what you were showing? I<00:11:51.600> think<00:11:51.800> I<00:11:51.840> had<00:11:52.000> 509,<00:11:52.640> but<00:11:53.040> I<00:11:53.080> think<00:11:53.280> that's I think I had 509, but I think that’s I think I had 509, but I think that’s within<00:11:53.680> 30.<00:11:54.320> That<00:11:54.480> might<00:11:54.640> be<00:11:54.680> it.<00:11:54.760> It's<00:11:54.760> within within 30. That might be it. It’s within within 30. That might be it. It’s within 50.<00:11:55.280> Yeah,<00:11:55.400> we're<00:11:55.680> we're<00:11:55.800> within<00:11:56.000> 100,000<00:11:56.560> so 50. Yeah, we’re we’re within 100,000 so 50. Yeah, we’re we’re within 100,000 so that’s that’s that’s Um<00:11:58.760> and<00:11:58.880> then<00:11:59.040> the<00:11:59.160> town<00:11:59.520> side,<00:12:00.160> as<00:12:00.600> of<00:12:00.840> I<00:12:00.880> think Um and then the town side, as of I think Um and then the town side, as of I think the<00:12:01.320> data<00:12:01.760> the<00:12:01.880> source<00:12:02.280> data<00:12:02.640> I<00:12:02.760> pulled<00:12:03.640> as<00:12:03.840> of the data the source data I pulled as of the data the source data I pulled as of 131.<00:12:05.040> So,<00:12:05.160> this<00:12:05.360> would<00:12:05.440> have<00:12:05.560> been<00:12:05.680> around 131. So, this would have been around 131. So, this would have been around state<00:12:06.360> of<00:12:06.440> the<00:12:06.520> town state of the town state of the town in<00:12:08.240> Munich<00:12:08.880> as<00:12:09.160> submitted<00:12:09.600> by<00:12:09.800> departments in Munich as submitted by departments in Munich as submitted by departments and<00:12:10.640> as<00:12:10.920> estimated<00:12:11.600> at<00:12:11.760> that<00:12:12.080> time and as estimated at that time and as estimated at that time um<00:12:13.400> for<00:12:13.560> things<00:12:13.840> like<00:12:13.960> benefits<00:12:14.440> that<00:12:14.560> have um for things like benefits that have um for things like benefits that have changed<00:12:15.040> since<00:12:15.240> then.<00:12:15.760> It<00:12:15.840> was<00:12:15.960> about<00:12:16.240> 53.4. changed since then. It was about 53.4. changed since then. It was about 53.4. So,<00:12:18.160> you<00:12:18.280> can<00:12:18.440> see<00:12:18.680> there<00:12:18.840> was<00:12:18.960> a<00:12:19.000> $7.7 So, you can see there was a $7.7 So, you can see there was a $7.7 million<00:12:21.200> deficit.<00:12:21.680> Now,<00:12:21.840> that<00:12:22.040> doesn't<00:12:22.360> mean million deficit. Now, that doesn’t mean million deficit. Now, that doesn’t mean that<00:12:22.960> there's<00:12:23.240> $7.7<00:12:24.120> million<00:12:24.360> of<00:12:24.440> cuts<00:12:24.800> if<00:12:24.960> we

12:25 that there’s $7.7 million of cuts if we that there’s $7.7 million of cuts if we adjust<00:12:25.840> health<00:12:26.040> insurance<00:12:26.520> between<00:12:27.240> January adjust health insurance between January adjust health insurance between January and<00:12:28.000> when<00:12:28.120> it<00:12:28.240> was<00:12:28.480> finalized<00:12:29.160> last<00:12:29.480> week. and when it was finalized last week. and when it was finalized last week. That’s<00:12:30.280> not<00:12:30.440> a<00:12:30.520> cut.<00:12:30.760> That's<00:12:30.960> an<00:12:31.040> adjustment That’s not a cut. That’s an adjustment That’s not a cut. That’s an adjustment to<00:12:31.640> a<00:12:31.720> budget,<00:12:32.080> right?<00:12:32.320> So,<00:12:32.800> I'm<00:12:32.920> going<00:12:33.040> to to a budget, right? So, I’m going to to a budget, right? So, I’m going to walk<00:12:33.360> through<00:12:33.560> that. walk through that. walk through that. Um Um Um So,<00:12:36.520> we're<00:12:36.720> we're<00:12:36.960> in<00:12:37.080> column<00:12:37.520> now.<00:12:38.080> So,<00:12:38.240> we So, we’re we’re in column now. So, we So, we’re we’re in column now. So, we have<00:12:38.400> a<00:12:38.440> town-wide<00:12:39.040> deficit<00:12:39.480> of<00:12:39.600> 7.7.<00:12:40.480> We've have a town-wide deficit of 7.7. We’ve have a town-wide deficit of 7.7. We’ve talked<00:12:41.080> for<00:12:41.280> years<00:12:41.760> about,<00:12:42.640> you<00:12:42.720> know,<00:12:42.920> the talked for years about, you know, the talked for years about, you know, the town<00:12:43.320> is<00:12:43.400> carrying<00:12:44.040> costs<00:12:44.480> that<00:12:44.640> benefit<00:12:45.040> both town is carrying costs that benefit both town is carrying costs that benefit both town<00:12:45.520> and<00:12:45.640> school<00:12:45.920> side.<00:12:46.680> We've<00:12:46.839> heard town and school side. We’ve heard town and school side. We’ve heard back-of-the-napkin<00:12:48.400> estimates<00:12:48.920> of<00:12:49.040> 60%. back-of-the-napkin estimates of 60%. back-of-the-napkin estimates of 60%. Why<00:12:51.320> don't<00:12:51.480> we<00:12:51.600> try<00:12:51.800> to<00:12:51.960> take<00:12:52.200> a<00:12:52.240> look<00:12:52.480> at<00:12:52.600> this Why don’t we try to take a look at this Why don’t we try to take a look at this and<00:12:53.680> and<00:12:53.920> see<00:12:54.440> what's<00:12:54.720> driving<00:12:55.200> that<00:12:55.440> deficit and and see what’s driving that deficit and and see what’s driving that deficit and<00:12:56.120> really<00:12:56.400> take<00:12:56.600> a<00:12:56.680> hard<00:12:56.960> look<00:12:57.480> at<00:12:58.000> at<00:12:58.160> both and really take a hard look at at both and really take a hard look at at both sides. sides. sides. So,<00:13:00.200> what<00:13:00.400> we<00:13:00.520> did<00:13:00.839> was<00:13:01.320> I<00:13:01.560> I<00:13:01.680> reviewed<00:13:02.160> there's So, what we did was I I reviewed there’s So, what we did was I I reviewed there’s there’s<00:13:02.640> a<00:13:02.720> part<00:13:02.920> of<00:13:03.000> the<00:13:03.080> town<00:13:03.360> side<00:13:03.600> budget there’s a part of the town side budget there’s a part of the town side budget called<00:13:04.400> other<00:13:04.760> general<00:13:05.120> government.<00:13:05.720> It's called other general government. It’s called other general government. It’s not<00:13:06.160> general<00:13:06.480> government.<00:13:06.880> It's<00:13:07.000> at<00:13:07.120> the not general government. It’s at the not general government. It’s at the bottom.<00:13:07.560> It's<00:13:07.720> other<00:13:07.960> general<00:13:08.320> government. bottom. It’s other general government. bottom. It’s other general government. And<00:13:09.560> I<00:13:09.680> asked<00:13:10.120> about<00:13:10.520> every<00:13:10.800> single<00:13:11.160> line<00:13:11.440> with

13:11 And I asked about every single line with And I asked about every single line with Alicia, Alicia, Alicia, um<00:13:13.080> our<00:13:13.200> town<00:13:13.440> finance<00:13:13.800> director,<00:13:14.720> which<00:13:15.000> of um our town finance director, which of um our town finance director, which of these<00:13:15.440> lines<00:13:16.000> have<00:13:16.400> any<00:13:16.720> costs,<00:13:17.200> even<00:13:17.400> a these lines have any costs, even a these lines have any costs, even a dollar,<00:13:17.960> attributable<00:13:18.520> to<00:13:18.600> school<00:13:19.080> employees dollar, attributable to school employees dollar, attributable to school employees or<00:13:19.760> retirees. or retirees. or retirees. And<00:13:21.280> the<00:13:21.520> six<00:13:21.920> we<00:13:22.080> identified<00:13:22.760> were<00:13:23.160> pension And the six we identified were pension And the six we identified were pension annual<00:13:24.400> required<00:13:24.920> contribution, annual required contribution, annual required contribution, health<00:13:26.560> insurance<00:13:27.120> for<00:13:27.320> active<00:13:27.640> employees, health insurance for active employees, health insurance for active employees, life<00:13:29.240> insurance,<00:13:30.400> health<00:13:30.680> insurance<00:13:31.200> for life insurance, health insurance for life insurance, health insurance for retirees, retirees, retirees, PEC<00:13:33.720> Medicare<00:13:34.280> reimbursement<00:13:35.200> to<00:13:35.320> retirees, PEC Medicare reimbursement to retirees, PEC Medicare reimbursement to retirees, and<00:13:36.520> the<00:13:36.600> transfer<00:13:37.080> to<00:13:37.200> the<00:13:37.320> OPEB<00:13:37.760> trust. and the transfer to the OPEB trust. and the transfer to the OPEB trust. So,<00:13:40.280> we<00:13:40.440> started<00:13:40.840> with<00:13:41.040> last<00:13:41.440> year's<00:13:41.760> budget, So, we started with last year’s budget, So, we started with last year’s budget, and<00:13:42.680> we<00:13:42.800> said,<00:13:43.040> "Okay,<00:13:43.360> what<00:13:43.560> were<00:13:43.640> the and we said, “Okay, what were the and we said, “Okay, what were the budgeted<00:13:44.360> line<00:13:44.640> items<00:13:44.960> for<00:13:45.160> each<00:13:45.320> of<00:13:45.440> those budgeted line items for each of those budgeted line items for each of those last<00:13:46.120> year?" last year?” last year?” And<00:13:47.400> then<00:13:47.520> what<00:13:47.640> I<00:13:47.720> asked<00:13:48.040> Alicia<00:13:48.480> and<00:13:48.600> the And then what I asked Alicia and the And then what I asked Alicia and the town<00:13:48.960> finance<00:13:49.320> department,<00:13:49.880> which<00:13:50.080> included town finance department, which included town finance department, which included our<00:13:51.240> FinCom<00:13:51.760> clerk,<00:13:52.080> who's<00:13:52.560> Linda<00:13:53.120> Gifford, our FinCom clerk, who’s Linda Gifford, our FinCom clerk, who’s Linda Gifford, is<00:13:53.680> actually<00:13:54.080> on<00:13:54.200> the<00:13:54.280> retirement<00:13:54.920> board<00:13:55.600> or is actually on the retirement board or is actually on the retirement board or or<00:13:55.920> maybe<00:13:56.440> employed<00:13:56.800> by<00:13:56.880> the<00:13:57.000> town<00:13:57.400> and

13:57 or maybe employed by the town and or maybe employed by the town and involved<00:13:57.920> in<00:13:58.000> that.<00:13:58.760> Um involved in that. Um involved in that. Um and<00:14:00.080> then,<00:14:00.240> you<00:14:00.320> know,<00:14:00.720> folks<00:14:01.040> in<00:14:01.120> Alicia's and then, you know, folks in Alicia’s and then, you know, folks in Alicia’s group<00:14:01.800> that<00:14:02.160> kind<00:14:02.360> of<00:14:02.440> deal<00:14:02.680> closer<00:14:03.040> with group that kind of deal closer with group that kind of deal closer with benefits<00:14:03.720> and<00:14:03.840> HR<00:14:04.280> and<00:14:04.360> whatnot,<00:14:05.200> they<00:14:05.360> worked benefits and HR and whatnot, they worked benefits and HR and whatnot, they worked as<00:14:05.800> a<00:14:05.880> team<00:14:06.640> to<00:14:06.840> best<00:14:07.280> estimate<00:14:08.360> of<00:14:08.680> those<00:14:09.000> line as a team to best estimate of those line as a team to best estimate of those line items,<00:14:09.720> how<00:14:09.840> much<00:14:10.080> is<00:14:10.200> attributable<00:14:10.720> to items, how much is attributable to items, how much is attributable to town-side<00:14:11.640> employees<00:14:12.640> or<00:14:12.800> retirees<00:14:13.560> versus town-side employees or retirees versus town-side employees or retirees versus schools.<00:14:14.960> I<00:14:15.200> I<00:14:15.280> think<00:14:15.440> I've<00:14:15.520> been<00:14:15.680> very<00:14:15.960> clear, schools. I I think I’ve been very clear, schools. I I think I’ve been very clear, Mike,<00:14:16.680> the<00:14:16.800> last<00:14:17.160> few<00:14:17.360> weeks<00:14:17.680> when<00:14:17.800> there Mike, the last few weeks when there Mike, the last few weeks when there maybe<00:14:18.560> has<00:14:18.720> been<00:14:18.880> questions<00:14:19.240> about<00:14:19.480> this. maybe has been questions about this. maybe has been questions about this. I<00:14:20.520> did<00:14:20.680> not<00:14:21.120> audit<00:14:21.560> these<00:14:21.800> percentages.<00:14:22.720> I I did not audit these percentages. I I did not audit these percentages. I only<00:14:23.080> have<00:14:23.240> so<00:14:23.400> much<00:14:23.640> capacity<00:14:24.160> in<00:14:24.280> my<00:14:24.400> day. only have so much capacity in my day. only have so much capacity in my day. That<00:14:25.320> being<00:14:25.560> said,<00:14:25.880> they<00:14:26.000> don't<00:14:26.520> feel That being said, they don’t feel That being said, they don’t feel directionally<00:14:27.680> off<00:14:27.960> of<00:14:28.160> what<00:14:28.360> we've<00:14:28.680> talked directionally off of what we’ve talked directionally off of what we’ve talked about<00:14:29.360> in<00:14:29.480> years<00:14:29.720> past,<00:14:30.520> but<00:14:30.640> if<00:14:30.760> there's about in years past, but if there’s about in years past, but if there’s questions<00:14:31.560> between questions between questions between school<00:14:33.440> finance<00:14:33.880> and<00:14:34.000> town-side<00:14:34.560> finance school finance and town-side finance school finance and town-side finance about<00:14:35.600> how<00:14:35.839> those<00:14:36.080> percentages<00:14:37.000> were about how those percentages were about how those percentages were uh<00:14:38.120> come<00:14:38.400> or<00:14:38.839> analyzed,<00:14:39.760> then<00:14:39.920> I<00:14:39.960> think<00:14:40.600> the uh come or analyzed, then I think the uh come or analyzed, then I think the sides<00:14:41.000> need<00:14:41.120> to<00:14:41.200> work<00:14:41.400> together<00:14:42.080> to<00:14:42.200> figure sides need to work together to figure sides need to work together to figure that<00:14:42.560> out.

14:43 that out. that out. Um<00:14:43.720> so, Um so, Um so, like<00:14:45.000> like<00:14:45.240> I<00:14:45.320> always<00:14:45.560> say<00:14:45.720> when<00:14:45.880> I<00:14:45.920> create<00:14:46.160> a like like I always say when I create a like like I always say when I create a spreadsheet,<00:14:46.839> if<00:14:46.960> there's<00:14:47.200> inputs<00:14:47.560> into<00:14:47.839> it, spreadsheet, if there’s inputs into it, spreadsheet, if there’s inputs into it, then<00:14:48.200> the<00:14:48.320> spreadsheet's<00:14:48.880> outcome<00:14:49.200> is<00:14:49.360> only then the spreadsheet’s outcome is only then the spreadsheet’s outcome is only as<00:14:49.640> good<00:14:49.760> as<00:14:49.880> its<00:14:50.040> inputs.<00:14:50.920> So,<00:14:51.080> if<00:14:51.160> there's as good as its inputs. So, if there’s as good as its inputs. So, if there’s any<00:14:51.560> discrepancies<00:14:52.240> there,<00:14:52.480> then<00:14:52.839> that any discrepancies there, then that any discrepancies there, then that that’s<00:14:53.360> where<00:14:53.480> it<00:14:53.560> would<00:14:53.680> be,<00:14:54.200> but<00:14:54.360> I<00:14:54.440> did<00:14:54.560> not that’s where it would be, but I did not that’s where it would be, but I did not audit<00:14:55.080> those<00:14:55.960> um audit those um audit those um part.<00:14:57.200> Let's<00:14:57.320> put<00:14:57.440> it<00:14:57.520> that<00:14:57.680> way. part. Let’s put it that way. part. Let’s put it that way. Um<00:14:59.240> so,<00:14:59.440> what<00:14:59.560> we<00:14:59.680> did<00:14:59.920> was<00:15:00.080> we<00:15:00.200> looked<00:15:00.480> at<00:15:00.880> the Um so, what we did was we looked at the Um so, what we did was we looked at the budget<00:15:01.640> for<00:15:01.839> each<00:15:02.000> of<00:15:02.160> those<00:15:02.480> six<00:15:02.760> numbers, budget for each of those six numbers, budget for each of those six numbers, and<00:15:03.880> then<00:15:04.040> what<00:15:04.160> we<00:15:04.280> were<00:15:04.360> able<00:15:04.560> to<00:15:04.680> do,<00:15:04.920> I and then what we were able to do, I and then what we were able to do, I think<00:15:05.160> you<00:15:05.240> guys<00:15:05.440> probably<00:15:05.760> saw<00:15:05.920> a<00:15:06.000> slide<00:15:06.440> that think you guys probably saw a slide that think you guys probably saw a slide that looks<00:15:06.839> like<00:15:07.080> this<00:15:07.480> in<00:15:07.800> Thatcher's looks like this in Thatcher’s looks like this in Thatcher’s presentation<00:15:08.839> last<00:15:09.160> week,<00:15:09.920> that<00:15:10.080> sort<00:15:10.320> of presentation last week, that sort of presentation last week, that sort of estimated<00:15:11.080> the<00:15:11.160> percentage<00:15:12.200> splits<00:15:12.800> of estimated the percentage splits of estimated the percentage splits of those.<00:15:13.400> I<00:15:13.440> did<00:15:13.560> a<00:15:13.600> lot<00:15:13.800> of<00:15:13.880> checks<00:15:14.240> to<00:15:14.360> make those. I did a lot of checks to make those. I did a lot of checks to make sure<00:15:14.720> I<00:15:14.760> linked<00:15:15.040> in<00:15:15.120> the<00:15:15.200> right<00:15:15.400> percentages. sure I linked in the right percentages. sure I linked in the right percentages. So,<00:15:17.000> what<00:15:17.160> we<00:15:17.240> did<00:15:17.480> was<00:15:17.880> we<00:15:18.000> took<00:15:18.280> the<00:15:18.400> total So, what we did was we took the total So, what we did was we took the total budgeted<00:15:19.280> line<00:15:19.520> items<00:15:19.800> for<00:15:19.880> those<00:15:20.160> six<00:15:20.640> over budgeted line items for those six over budgeted line items for those six over to<00:15:21.040> the<00:15:21.160> left,<00:15:22.120> and<00:15:22.240> then<00:15:22.360> we<00:15:22.480> took<00:15:22.840> each<00:15:23.000> of to the left, and then we took each of to the left, and then we took each of the<00:15:23.160> percentages<00:15:23.800> attributable<00:15:24.400> to<00:15:24.520> schools the percentages attributable to schools the percentages attributable to schools and<00:15:25.720> we<00:15:25.800> said,<00:15:26.000> "Okay,<00:15:26.320> what<00:15:26.520> if<00:15:26.680> we<00:15:26.800> were<00:15:27.000> to and we said, “Okay, what if we were to and we said, “Okay, what if we were to take<00:15:27.480> last<00:15:27.840> year's<00:15:28.080> budget<00:15:29.160> on<00:15:29.320> the<00:15:29.440> expense

15:29 take last year’s budget on the expense take last year’s budget on the expense side<00:15:30.840> and<00:15:31.040> shift<00:15:31.440> those<00:15:31.720> costs<00:15:32.320> line<00:15:32.680> by<00:15:32.880> line side and shift those costs line by line side and shift those costs line by line to<00:15:33.840> say,<00:15:34.080> "What<00:15:34.360> is<00:15:34.520> the<00:15:34.680> true<00:15:35.840> school to say, “What is the true school to say, “What is the true school estimated<00:15:37.600> budget<00:15:38.360> rather<00:15:38.680> than<00:15:38.840> just<00:15:39.080> 49 estimated budget rather than just 49 estimated budget rather than just 49 million<00:15:39.880> if<00:15:40.000> we<00:15:40.120> were<00:15:40.200> to<00:15:40.400> include<00:15:40.920> the<00:15:41.000> school million if we were to include the school million if we were to include the school portion<00:15:43.000> of<00:15:43.480> the portion of the portion of the other<00:15:44.320> general<00:15:44.600> government<00:15:45.000> costs?"<00:15:45.880> We<00:15:46.040> came other general government costs?” We came other general government costs?” We came up<00:15:46.400> with<00:15:46.560> 61.3<00:15:47.920> million<00:15:48.280> based<00:15:48.600> on<00:15:48.680> that up with 61.3 million based on that up with 61.3 million based on that analysis,<00:15:49.840> which<00:15:50.040> happens<00:15:50.400> to<00:15:50.480> be<00:15:50.600> 63% analysis, which happens to be 63% analysis, which happens to be 63% of<00:15:52.520> the<00:15:52.640> 97.1 of the 97.1 of the 97.1 million<00:15:54.560> of<00:15:54.640> available<00:15:55.080> revenue<00:15:55.480> last<00:15:55.760> year. million of available revenue last year. million of available revenue last year. So,<00:15:56.560> it's<00:15:56.680> a<00:15:56.760> little<00:15:57.000> more<00:15:57.240> than<00:15:57.400> the<00:15:57.480> 60/40, So, it’s a little more than the 60/40, So, it’s a little more than the 60/40, but<00:15:58.360> it's<00:15:58.480> not<00:15:58.800> directionally<00:15:59.400> off. but it’s not directionally off. but it’s not directionally off. So,<00:16:00.840> now<00:16:01.080> we've<00:16:01.280> reset<00:16:01.800> last<00:16:02.160> year's<00:16:02.400> budget.

16:06 Now we have to look at, “Okay, what if Now we have to look at, “Okay, what if we<00:16:07.120> were<00:16:07.240> going<00:16:07.360> to<00:16:07.880> re-look<00:16:08.440> at<00:16:08.800> how<00:16:09.040> we<00:16:09.120> split we were going to re-look at how we split we were going to re-look at how we split revenues<00:16:10.320> moving<00:16:10.640> forward?"<00:16:11.240> Just<00:16:11.480> for<00:16:11.560> this revenues moving forward?” Just for this revenues moving forward?” Just for this analysis<00:16:12.560> for<00:16:12.720> now,<00:16:13.320> right? analysis for now, right? analysis for now, right? There’s<00:16:14.720> $600,000<00:16:15.920> less<00:16:16.200> available<00:16:16.640> revenue There’s $600,000 less available revenue There’s $600,000 less available revenue this<00:16:17.240> year. this year. this year. Let’s<00:16:18.760> split<00:16:19.040> it<00:16:19.240> 63/37. Let’s split it 63/37. Let’s split it 63/37. It’s<00:16:21.680> pretty<00:16:21.960> close.<00:16:22.360> It's<00:16:22.520> It's<00:16:22.720> not It’s pretty close. It’s It’s not It’s pretty close. It’s It’s not materially<00:16:23.440> different.<00:16:23.760> It's<00:16:23.960> 380<00:16:24.800> versus materially different. It’s 380 versus materially different. It’s 380 versus 220. 220. 220. Right?<00:16:27.040> So,<00:16:27.160> now<00:16:27.400> we've<00:16:27.640> reset<00:16:28.120> last<00:16:28.440> year's Right? So, now we’ve reset last year’s Right? So, now we’ve reset last year’s budget<00:16:29.280> to<00:16:29.960> or<00:16:30.080> this<00:16:30.320> year's<00:16:30.560> budget,<00:16:31.080> sorry, budget to or this year’s budget, sorry, budget to or this year’s budget, sorry, to<00:16:31.680> what's<00:16:31.920> available. to what’s available. to what’s available. Now<00:16:33.320> let's<00:16:33.560> look<00:16:33.839> at<00:16:34.240> those<00:16:34.520> costs<00:16:34.920> that<00:16:35.080> I Now let’s look at those costs that I Now let’s look at those costs that I said<00:16:35.480> were<00:16:35.600> submitted<00:16:36.360> by<00:16:36.760> both<00:16:37.040> town<00:16:37.320> and said were submitted by both town and said were submitted by both town and schools<00:16:37.800> at<00:16:37.880> the<00:16:37.960> start<00:16:38.320> of<00:16:38.440> this<00:16:38.640> process. schools at the start of this process. schools at the start of this process. 104.1<00:16:41.440> million,<00:16:41.960> right? 104.1 million, right? 104.1 million, right? Then<00:16:43.200> we<00:16:43.320> took<00:16:43.600> those<00:16:43.800> exact<00:16:44.520> same Then we took those exact same Then we took those exact same line<00:16:46.240> items<00:16:46.640> in<00:16:46.760> the<00:16:46.839> budget<00:16:47.680> and<00:16:47.920> I<00:16:48.000> have line items in the budget and I have line items in the budget and I have adjusted<00:16:48.880> these<00:16:49.320> to<00:16:49.480> bring<00:16:49.720> them<00:16:50.000> down<00:16:50.720> since adjusted these to bring them down since adjusted these to bring them down since it<00:16:51.640> was<00:16:51.760> at<00:16:51.960> 15%<00:16:52.880> active<00:16:53.160> health<00:16:53.360> insurance.

16:54 it was at 15% active health insurance. it was at 15% active health insurance. She’s<00:16:54.400> reduced<00:16:54.839> it<00:16:54.960> to<00:16:55.080> 11.<00:16:55.640> I've<00:16:55.839> shifted She’s reduced it to 11. I’ve shifted She’s reduced it to 11. I’ve shifted that<00:16:56.400> to<00:16:56.520> 11<00:16:56.920> in<00:16:57.000> this<00:16:57.160> analysis.<00:16:58.200> The<00:16:58.720> I that to 11 in this analysis. The I that to 11 in this analysis. The I believe<00:16:59.080> it's<00:16:59.200> called<00:16:59.520> the believe it’s called the believe it’s called the PEC<00:17:00.880> Medicare<00:17:01.360> reimbursement<00:17:02.000> was<00:17:02.160> at<00:17:02.360> seven PEC Medicare reimbursement was at seven PEC Medicare reimbursement was at seven as<00:17:03.120> of<00:17:03.200> the<00:17:03.280> state<00:17:03.480> of<00:17:03.560> the<00:17:03.640> town,<00:17:04.120> is<00:17:04.240> now<00:17:04.439> at as of the state of the town, is now at as of the state of the town, is now at five<00:17:05.040> based<00:17:05.319> on<00:17:05.400> last<00:17:05.680> week's<00:17:05.959> news.<00:17:06.640> I've five based on last week’s news. I’ve five based on last week’s news. I’ve shifted<00:17:07.120> that<00:17:07.319> down<00:17:07.560> as<00:17:07.720> well. shifted that down as well. shifted that down as well. So,<00:17:08.560> I've<00:17:08.680> kept<00:17:08.920> up<00:17:09.120> to<00:17:09.199> date<00:17:09.680> with<00:17:09.959> with So, I’ve kept up to date with with So, I’ve kept up to date with with what’s<00:17:10.400> going<00:17:10.720> on<00:17:10.839> in<00:17:10.920> the<00:17:11.040> news<00:17:11.400> and<00:17:11.640> and what’s going on in the news and and what’s going on in the news and and things<00:17:12.000> like<00:17:12.160> that. things like that. things like that. So,<00:17:13.400> when<00:17:13.560> we So, when we So, when we add<00:17:15.160> the<00:17:15.280> costs<00:17:15.920> that<00:17:16.360> are<00:17:16.520> on<00:17:16.640> the<00:17:16.760> town<00:17:17.079> side add the costs that are on the town side add the costs that are on the town side of<00:17:17.439> the<00:17:17.520> budget<00:17:17.920> today<00:17:18.959> using<00:17:19.360> those<00:17:19.560> same of the budget today using those same of the budget today using those same ratios<00:17:20.439> based<00:17:20.720> on<00:17:20.839> the<00:17:20.920> analysis<00:17:21.480> of<00:17:21.640> actuals ratios based on the analysis of actuals ratios based on the analysis of actuals from<00:17:22.400> last<00:17:22.760> year from last year from last year to<00:17:24.160> the<00:17:24.280> 50.8<00:17:25.079> million,<00:17:25.480> what<00:17:25.640> that<00:17:25.839> says<00:17:26.160> is to the 50.8 million, what that says is to the 50.8 million, what that says is the<00:17:26.400> schools<00:17:26.959> had<00:17:27.199> 64.2<00:17:28.400> million<00:17:29.120> of the schools had 64.2 million of the schools had 64.2 million of requested<00:17:29.960> budget<00:17:30.280> before<00:17:30.680> any<00:17:30.880> cuts,<00:17:31.440> right? requested budget before any cuts, right? requested budget before any cuts, right? Plus<00:17:32.800> plus<00:17:33.040> their<00:17:33.240> share<00:17:33.560> of<00:17:33.680> the<00:17:33.840> other Plus plus their share of the other Plus plus their share of the other general<00:17:34.680> government<00:17:35.080> lines<00:17:35.360> of<00:17:35.440> that<00:17:35.640> budget. general government lines of that budget. general government lines of that budget. And<00:17:36.720> the<00:17:36.840> town<00:17:37.200> has<00:17:37.680> only<00:17:37.960> 39.9<00:17:39.120> or<00:17:39.240> or<00:17:39.360> about

17:39 And the town has only 39.9 or or about And the town has only 39.9 or or about 40<00:17:39.960> million<00:17:40.400> actually.<00:17:41.360> So<00:17:41.560> now<00:17:41.800> what<00:17:41.960> I've 40 million actually. So now what I’ve 40 million actually. So now what I’ve done<00:17:42.320> is<00:17:42.440> I've<00:17:42.560> said,<00:17:42.800> "Okay,<00:17:43.200> we've<00:17:43.440> shifted done is I’ve said, “Okay, we’ve shifted done is I’ve said, “Okay, we’ve shifted the<00:17:43.960> revenue<00:17:44.360> allocation<00:17:45.040> and<00:17:45.280> the<00:17:45.400> expense the revenue allocation and the expense the revenue allocation and the expense side<00:17:46.120> using<00:17:46.480> a<00:17:46.560> pretty<00:17:46.920> solid<00:17:47.400> analysis." side using a pretty solid analysis.” side using a pretty solid analysis.” And<00:17:48.920> from<00:17:49.080> my<00:17:49.280> perspective,<00:17:49.720> it's<00:17:49.880> pretty And from my perspective, it’s pretty And from my perspective, it’s pretty economically<00:17:51.000> thin economically thin economically thin uh<00:17:52.280> from<00:17:52.440> my<00:17:52.600> perspective uh from my perspective uh from my perspective um<00:17:53.880> as<00:17:54.040> long<00:17:54.240> as<00:17:54.320> those<00:17:54.520> inputs<00:17:54.920> are<00:17:55.040> right<00:17:55.400> as um as long as those inputs are right as um as long as those inputs are right as I<00:17:55.680> had<00:17:55.880> said. I had said. I had said. Um<00:17:57.320> so<00:17:57.520> really<00:17:57.800> now<00:17:58.000> what<00:17:58.120> we've<00:17:58.280> done<00:17:58.480> is Um so really now what we’ve done is Um so really now what we’ve done is we’ve<00:17:58.800> said,<00:17:59.000> "Okay,<00:17:59.240> we<00:17:59.400> have<00:17:59.520> 7.7<00:18:00.480> million we’ve said, “Okay, we have 7.7 million we’ve said, “Okay, we have 7.7 million dollars<00:18:01.080> of<00:18:01.200> a<00:18:01.240> deficit." dollars of a deficit.” dollars of a deficit.” Our<00:18:02.880> estimate<00:18:03.280> is<00:18:03.400> that<00:18:03.640> 3.2<00:18:04.280> million<00:18:04.600> is Our estimate is that 3.2 million is Our estimate is that 3.2 million is driven<00:18:05.080> by<00:18:05.520> costs<00:18:06.040> that<00:18:06.200> are<00:18:06.360> in<00:18:06.480> the<00:18:06.600> school driven by costs that are in the school driven by costs that are in the school budget<00:18:07.640> plus<00:18:08.080> school<00:18:08.400> costs<00:18:08.720> that<00:18:08.840> are<00:18:08.960> in<00:18:09.120> the budget plus school costs that are in the budget plus school costs that are in the other<00:18:09.480> general<00:18:10.000> other<00:18:10.200> general<00:18:10.480> government other general other general government other general other general government budget.<00:18:11.800> And<00:18:12.040> 4.5<00:18:12.880> million<00:18:13.200> is<00:18:13.320> on<00:18:13.400> the<00:18:13.480> town budget. And 4.5 million is on the town budget. And 4.5 million is on the town side. side. side. As<00:18:16.440> of<00:18:17.040> the<00:18:17.640> time<00:18:17.960> I<00:18:18.000> did<00:18:18.200> this<00:18:18.360> analysis,<00:18:19.080> I As of the time I did this analysis, I As of the time I did this analysis, I believe<00:18:20.000> you<00:18:20.160> guys<00:18:20.440> had<00:18:20.600> presented<00:18:21.240> a<00:18:21.320> budget believe you guys had presented a budget believe you guys had presented a budget that<00:18:21.880> was<00:18:22.120> even<00:18:22.520> to<00:18:22.680> last<00:18:23.080> year.<00:18:23.760> So<00:18:23.920> at<00:18:24.040> the that was even to last year. So at the that was even to last year. So at the bottom<00:18:24.520> I<00:18:24.560> simply<00:18:24.960> said<00:18:25.600> you<00:18:25.720> had<00:18:25.880> found<00:18:26.200> about

18:26 bottom I simply said you had found about bottom I simply said you had found about 1.7<00:18:27.240> million. 1.7 million. 1.7 million. And<00:18:28.760> now<00:18:29.000> I'm<00:18:29.120> saying<00:18:29.480> that<00:18:29.680> this<00:18:29.880> analysis<00:18:31.000> is And now I’m saying that this analysis is And now I’m saying that this analysis is 3.2<00:18:32.560> million,<00:18:33.200> which<00:18:33.360> is<00:18:33.440> about<00:18:33.640> a<00:18:33.720> 1.5<00:18:34.600> a 3.2 million, which is about a 1.5 a 3.2 million, which is about a 1.5 a little<00:18:34.920> north<00:18:35.280> of<00:18:35.400> 1.5<00:18:36.120> million<00:18:36.400> dollar little north of 1.5 million dollar little north of 1.5 million dollar difference.<00:18:37.720> That<00:18:37.920> is<00:18:38.080> where<00:18:38.240> that<00:18:38.480> number difference. That is where that number difference. That is where that number came<00:18:39.080> from.<00:18:39.760> Happy<00:18:40.040> to<00:18:40.160> share<00:18:40.440> the came from. Happy to share the came from. Happy to share the spreadsheet<00:18:41.160> that<00:18:41.280> has<00:18:41.640> all<00:18:41.800> sorts<00:18:42.160> of spreadsheet that has all sorts of spreadsheet that has all sorts of support<00:18:43.200> data<00:18:44.200> behind<00:18:44.640> it<00:18:44.760> and<00:18:44.880> I<00:18:44.960> make<00:18:45.480> every support data behind it and I make every support data behind it and I make every every<00:18:46.320> number<00:18:46.680> in<00:18:46.840> it<00:18:47.080> to<00:18:47.280> where<00:18:47.760> where<00:18:47.920> the every number in it to where where the every number in it to where where the data<00:18:48.240> is<00:18:48.360> coming<00:18:48.680> from.<00:18:49.440> Um<00:18:50.440> that<00:18:50.720> left<00:18:51.000> the data is coming from. Um that left the data is coming from. Um that left the town<00:18:51.560> with<00:18:51.960> a<00:18:52.040> significant<00:18:53.160> 4.5<00:18:53.840> million<00:18:54.200> to town with a significant 4.5 million to town with a significant 4.5 million to find<00:18:55.280> um<00:18:55.880> which<00:18:56.080> we<00:18:56.200> can<00:18:56.320> talk<00:18:56.520> about<00:18:56.800> more<00:18:56.960> in find um which we can talk about more in find um which we can talk about more in a<00:18:57.080> minute,<00:18:57.520> but a minute, but a minute, but quite<00:18:59.360> frankly,<00:18:59.720> this<00:18:59.920> is<00:19:00.040> not<00:19:00.520> actually<00:19:01.040> that quite frankly, this is not actually that quite frankly, this is not actually that complicated.<00:19:02.280> I<00:19:02.320> don't<00:19:02.480> I complicated. I don’t I complicated. I don’t I I<00:19:03.520> I<00:19:03.600> guess<00:19:03.800> I'll<00:19:03.920> pause<00:19:04.240> for<00:19:04.400> questions.<00:19:05.200> It's I I guess I’ll pause for questions. It’s I I guess I’ll pause for questions. It’s It’s<00:19:06.200> pretty<00:19:06.440> straightforward<00:19:07.040> what<00:19:07.200> we're It’s pretty straightforward what we’re It’s pretty straightforward what we’re doing.<00:19:07.600> We're<00:19:07.720> kind<00:19:08.000> of<00:19:08.560> looking<00:19:08.920> at<00:19:09.040> last doing. We’re kind of looking at last doing. We’re kind of looking at last year’s<00:19:09.480> budget<00:19:09.800> and<00:19:09.920> then<00:19:10.040> saying,<00:19:10.280> "Okay, year’s budget and then saying, “Okay, year’s budget and then saying, “Okay, how<00:19:10.600> much<00:19:10.840> of<00:19:10.920> that<00:19:11.200> was<00:19:11.520> truthfully?"<00:19:12.440> I<00:19:12.560> and

19:12 how much of that was truthfully?” I and how much of that was truthfully?” I and I<00:19:12.800> think<00:19:13.000> you<00:19:13.080> guys<00:19:13.320> report<00:19:14.320> numbers<00:19:14.880> to<00:19:15.200> DESI I think you guys report numbers to DESI I think you guys report numbers to DESI with<00:19:16.280> those<00:19:16.520> benefits<00:19:17.000> costed<00:19:17.360> in<00:19:17.440> there<00:19:17.600> as with those benefits costed in there as with those benefits costed in there as well. well. well. If<00:19:18.840> that<00:19:19.040> makes<00:19:19.200> sense.<00:19:19.560> So,<00:19:19.920> I<00:19:20.040> guess<00:19:20.240> I'll If that makes sense. So, I guess I’ll If that makes sense. So, I guess I’ll pause<00:19:20.640> for<00:19:20.760> questions<00:19:21.240> on<00:19:21.360> this<00:19:21.560> analysis.

19:30 And Jen, can I have the floor? And Jen, can I have the floor? Jen?

19:36 Uh nope, I I don’t have to go first. Uh nope, I I don’t have to go first. Someone<00:19:36.600> can<00:19:36.680> go<00:19:36.760> ahead<00:19:36.880> of<00:19:36.960> me. Someone can go ahead of me. Someone can go ahead of me. I<00:19:38.800> think<00:19:38.960> this<00:19:39.080> makes<00:19:39.280> a<00:19:39.320> lot<00:19:39.520> of<00:19:39.600> sense. I think this makes a lot of sense. I think this makes a lot of sense. This<00:19:41.760> is<00:19:41.960> how<00:19:42.880> I<00:19:43.040> as<00:19:43.160> a<00:19:43.200> finance<00:19:43.600> person<00:19:43.880> would This is how I as a finance person would This is how I as a finance person would think<00:19:44.200> about<00:19:44.480> correctly<00:19:44.920> allocating<00:19:45.480> costs think about correctly allocating costs think about correctly allocating costs to<00:19:46.000> kind<00:19:46.200> of<00:19:46.320> the<00:19:46.880> the<00:19:47.000> body<00:19:47.440> that<00:19:47.600> in<00:19:47.680> the<00:19:47.760> end to kind of the the body that in the end to kind of the the body that in the end uses<00:19:48.360> it. uses it. uses it. For<00:19:49.440> me,<00:19:49.800> the<00:19:50.120> open<00:19:50.400> points<00:19:50.840> are<00:19:51.200> are<00:19:51.400> those For me, the open points are are those For me, the open points are are those percentages<00:19:52.280> and<00:19:52.400> are<00:19:52.520> trying<00:19:52.840> these<00:19:53.040> inputs percentages and are trying these inputs percentages and are trying these inputs accurate?<00:19:54.080> I<00:19:54.160> would<00:19:54.360> want<00:19:54.600> us<00:19:54.760> to<00:19:54.840> do<00:19:55.000> the accurate? I would want us to do the accurate? I would want us to do the diligence<00:19:55.560> to<00:19:55.640> make<00:19:55.840> sure<00:19:56.040> that<00:19:56.200> we<00:19:56.400> agree diligence to make sure that we agree diligence to make sure that we agree with<00:19:56.920> it. with it. with it. » Right.<00:19:57.760> Um » Right. Um » Right. Um and<00:19:59.160> for<00:19:59.360> me,<00:19:59.720> it's<00:19:59.920> about<00:20:00.880> like,<00:20:01.400> okay,<00:20:01.720> is and for me, it’s about like, okay, is and for me, it’s about like, okay, is this<00:20:02.000> a<00:20:02.080> framework<00:20:02.600> we're<00:20:02.680> going<00:20:02.800> to<00:20:02.920> use this a framework we’re going to use this a framework we’re going to use moving<00:20:03.480> forward?<00:20:04.040> Because<00:20:04.280> when<00:20:04.440> I<00:20:04.520> look<00:20:04.720> at moving forward? Because when I look at moving forward? Because when I look at those,<00:20:05.040> I'm<00:20:05.120> like,<00:20:05.320> okay,<00:20:05.680> this<00:20:05.920> means<00:20:06.200> we're those, I’m like, okay, this means we’re those, I’m like, okay, this means we’re going<00:20:06.440> to<00:20:06.520> have<00:20:06.760> to going to have to going to have to what<00:20:07.960> were<00:20:08.080> the<00:20:08.200> actual<00:20:08.680> allocations?<00:20:09.440> And what were the actual allocations? And what were the actual allocations? And what<00:20:09.680> was<00:20:09.800> the<00:20:09.920> delta<00:20:10.280> between<00:20:10.520> what<00:20:10.680> we what was the delta between what we what was the delta between what we budgeted<00:20:11.200> and<00:20:11.280> what<00:20:11.400> the<00:20:11.520> actual<00:20:12.000> was?<00:20:12.160> And budgeted and what the actual was? And budgeted and what the actual was? And now<00:20:12.360> we're<00:20:12.440> going<00:20:12.560> to<00:20:12.640> set<00:20:12.800> new<00:20:12.920> percentages now we’re going to set new percentages now we’re going to set new percentages and<00:20:13.680> we<00:20:13.760> need<00:20:13.920> to<00:20:14.040> make<00:20:14.320> sure<00:20:14.560> that<00:20:14.720> we're and we need to make sure that we’re and we need to make sure that we’re transferring<00:20:15.560> and<00:20:15.680> it<00:20:15.800> just<00:20:16.000> feels<00:20:16.480> like<00:20:17.360> it transferring and it just feels like it transferring and it just feels like it could<00:20:17.600> get<00:20:17.760> a<00:20:17.800> little<00:20:18.040> bit<00:20:18.320> overly could get a little bit overly could get a little bit overly Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. » complex<00:20:20.320> to<00:20:20.440> operationalize,<00:20:21.520> but<00:20:21.640> I<00:20:21.680> think

20:21 » complex to operationalize, but I think » complex to operationalize, but I think like<00:20:22.120> largely<00:20:22.560> the<00:20:22.680> framework<00:20:23.200> assuming<00:20:23.680> that like largely the framework assuming that like largely the framework assuming that the<00:20:23.880> percentage<00:20:24.400> inputs<00:20:25.080> you're<00:20:25.280> using<00:20:25.640> makes the percentage inputs you’re using makes the percentage inputs you’re using makes sense,<00:20:26.520> it's<00:20:26.720> very<00:20:27.040> easy<00:20:27.240> to<00:20:27.320> follow,<00:20:27.640> makes sense, it’s very easy to follow, makes sense, it’s very easy to follow, makes sense.<00:20:28.040> Yeah,<00:20:28.320> and<00:20:28.600> and<00:20:28.720> you<00:20:28.800> make<00:20:29.000> a<00:20:29.040> great sense. Yeah, and and you make a great sense. Yeah, and and you make a great point<00:20:29.720> because<00:20:30.280> I've<00:20:30.480> thought<00:20:30.760> about<00:20:31.000> this<00:20:31.200> as point because I’ve thought about this as point because I’ve thought about this as well.<00:20:31.600> If<00:20:31.800> if<00:20:31.920> this<00:20:32.160> is<00:20:32.320> a<00:20:32.360> framework<00:20:32.920> that's well. If if this is a framework that’s well. If if this is a framework that’s going<00:20:33.240> to<00:20:33.320> be<00:20:33.480> used,<00:20:33.920> whether<00:20:34.200> it's<00:20:34.480> in<00:20:34.640> a going to be used, whether it’s in a going to be used, whether it’s in a sheet<00:20:34.960> like<00:20:35.200> this<00:20:35.680> or<00:20:35.880> or<00:20:36.400> between<00:20:36.800> Mike<00:20:37.160> and sheet like this or or between Mike and sheet like this or or between Mike and Alicia<00:20:37.840> moving<00:20:38.160> forward,<00:20:39.080> or<00:20:39.360> if<00:20:39.520> it's Alicia moving forward, or if it’s Alicia moving forward, or if it’s legitimately<00:20:40.520> just<00:20:40.760> putting<00:20:41.080> these<00:20:41.280> six<00:20:41.600> line legitimately just putting these six line legitimately just putting these six line items<00:20:42.280> into<00:20:42.600> your<00:20:42.800> budget<00:20:43.160> and<00:20:43.280> your<00:20:43.400> bottom items into your budget and your bottom items into your budget and your bottom line<00:20:43.920> is<00:20:44.080> not,<00:20:44.760> you<00:20:44.840> know,<00:20:45.040> 49.1<00:20:46.000> last<00:20:46.280> year<00:20:46.400> at line is not, you know, 49.1 last year at line is not, you know, 49.1 last year at 61.4,<00:20:48.000> and<00:20:48.120> then<00:20:48.680> obviously<00:20:49.160> both<00:20:49.360> sides<00:20:49.600> have 61.4, and then obviously both sides have 61.4, and then obviously both sides have to<00:20:49.840> work<00:20:50.000> together<00:20:50.400> cuz<00:20:50.560> this<00:20:50.760> is<00:20:50.880> a<00:20:50.960> town<00:20:51.320> wide to work together cuz this is a town wide to work together cuz this is a town wide analysis<00:20:52.120> and<00:20:52.240> there's<00:20:52.880> there's<00:20:53.320> there's analysis and there’s there’s there’s analysis and there’s there’s there’s folks<00:20:53.800> on<00:20:53.960> each<00:20:54.080> side<00:20:54.480> doing<00:20:54.760> it.<00:20:55.520> Um<00:20:55.960> but<00:20:56.440> I folks on each side doing it. Um but I folks on each side doing it. Um but I mean,<00:20:56.640> that's<00:20:56.840> just<00:20:57.200> kind<00:20:57.400> of<00:20:57.480> presentation mean, that’s just kind of presentation mean, that’s just kind of presentation at<00:20:58.360> the<00:20:58.440> moment.<00:20:58.840> So,<00:20:59.720> um<00:20:59.920> but<00:21:00.160> but<00:21:00.360> what<00:21:00.520> I at the moment. So, um but but what I at the moment. So, um but but what I would<00:21:00.800> say<00:21:00.960> is<00:21:01.120> I<00:21:01.200> thought<00:21:01.480> about<00:21:01.720> this<00:21:02.000> is, would say is I thought about this is, would say is I thought about this is, you<00:21:02.880> know,<00:21:03.320> in<00:21:03.560> years<00:21:04.000> where<00:21:04.320> I<00:21:04.360> think<00:21:04.560> we<00:21:04.680> had you know, in years where I think we had you know, in years where I think we had that<00:21:05.480> uh<00:21:05.560> that<00:21:05.720> PEC<00:21:06.320> presentation<00:21:07.120> from<00:21:07.400> the

21:07 that uh that PEC presentation from the that uh that PEC presentation from the Massachusetts<00:21:08.640> health<00:21:08.840> insurance<00:21:09.280> the<00:21:09.560> the Massachusetts health insurance the the Massachusetts health insurance the the pack pack pack last<00:21:11.240> week<00:21:11.920> GIC<00:21:12.600> sorry<00:21:13.000> the<00:21:13.120> pack<00:21:13.360> GIC<00:21:13.800> I<00:21:14.320> I last week GIC sorry the pack GIC I I last week GIC sorry the pack GIC I I will<00:21:14.720> lose<00:21:15.000> the<00:21:15.160> acronyms will lose the acronyms will lose the acronyms and<00:21:16.880> if<00:21:17.000> we<00:21:17.120> looked<00:21:17.360> at<00:21:17.440> the<00:21:17.560> last<00:21:17.880> 5<00:21:18.200> years<00:21:19.240> the and if we looked at the last 5 years the and if we looked at the last 5 years the active<00:21:20.000> life<00:21:20.280> insurance<00:21:20.840> line<00:21:21.120> or<00:21:21.240> sorry active life insurance line or sorry active life insurance line or sorry health<00:21:21.680> insurance<00:21:22.080> line<00:21:22.320> was<00:21:22.480> going<00:21:22.760> up<00:21:22.920> like health insurance line was going up like health insurance line was going up like two two two two<00:21:24.440> and<00:21:24.560> then<00:21:24.760> the<00:21:24.880> last<00:21:25.200> 3<00:21:25.400> years<00:21:25.640> it<00:21:25.760> jumped two and then the last 3 years it jumped two and then the last 3 years it jumped up<00:21:26.520> six<00:21:27.280> six<00:21:27.960> 14<00:21:28.760> right<00:21:29.440> so<00:21:29.560> this<00:21:29.800> is<00:21:30.160> this<00:21:30.360> is up six six 14 right so this is this is up six six 14 right so this is this is really<00:21:31.360> the<00:21:31.480> benefits<00:21:32.120> costs<00:21:32.440> are<00:21:32.600> really really the benefits costs are really really the benefits costs are really driving<00:21:33.720> a<00:21:33.800> big<00:21:34.080> piece<00:21:34.400> of<00:21:34.520> this<00:21:34.720> deficit driving a big piece of this deficit driving a big piece of this deficit along<00:21:35.680> with<00:21:36.280> less<00:21:36.480> available<00:21:36.920> revenues<00:21:37.440> as along with less available revenues as along with less available revenues as well well well um um um and<00:21:40.040> and<00:21:40.200> what<00:21:40.320> I<00:21:40.400> would<00:21:40.560> say<00:21:40.800> and and and what I would say and and and what I would say and if<00:21:41.960> that<00:21:42.240> got<00:21:42.560> back<00:21:42.920> to<00:21:43.120> a<00:21:43.200> point<00:21:43.760> you<00:21:43.840> know<00:21:43.960> if if that got back to a point you know if if that got back to a point you know if we’re<00:21:44.200> going<00:21:44.320> to<00:21:44.440> use<00:21:44.680> the<00:21:44.800> framework<00:21:45.400> that we’re going to use the framework that we’re going to use the framework that you<00:21:45.640> mentioned<00:21:45.960> moving<00:21:46.200> forward<00:21:46.560> if<00:21:46.640> it<00:21:46.720> gets you mentioned moving forward if it gets you mentioned moving forward if it gets back<00:21:47.240> to<00:21:47.400> a<00:21:47.480> two<00:21:47.680> to<00:21:47.800> three back to a two to three back to a two to three the<00:21:49.200> schools<00:21:49.600> would<00:21:49.760> be<00:21:49.880> still<00:21:50.160> getting<00:21:50.640> if the schools would be still getting if the schools would be still getting if you<00:21:50.920> if<00:21:51.080> you<00:21:51.200> adopt<00:21:51.600> this<00:21:51.960> right<00:21:52.280> 63%<00:21:53.440> or

21:53 you if you adopt this right 63% or you if you adopt this right 63% or whatever<00:21:53.880> the<00:21:53.960> most<00:21:54.240> recent<00:21:54.640> years whatever the most recent years whatever the most recent years allocation<00:21:55.480> was<00:21:56.200> of<00:21:56.360> the<00:21:56.440> available<00:21:56.880> revenues allocation was of the available revenues allocation was of the available revenues and<00:21:57.440> then<00:21:57.560> those<00:21:57.800> line<00:21:58.040> items<00:21:58.320> if<00:21:58.440> they're and then those line items if they’re and then those line items if they’re only<00:21:58.760> going<00:21:59.000> up<00:21:59.120> by<00:21:59.680> two<00:22:00.000> then<00:22:00.320> then<00:22:00.480> that only going up by two then then that only going up by two then then that could<00:22:00.840> be<00:22:00.960> a<00:22:01.000> net<00:22:01.280> benefit<00:22:01.800> right<00:22:02.040> in<00:22:02.120> those could be a net benefit right in those could be a net benefit right in those years<00:22:02.640> and<00:22:03.080> and<00:22:03.200> that's<00:22:03.440> what's<00:22:03.600> fair<00:22:04.080> right years and and that’s what’s fair right years and and that’s what’s fair right um<00:22:05.760> and<00:22:05.920> and<00:22:06.320> I<00:22:06.400> looked<00:22:06.720> back<00:22:07.040> we<00:22:07.160> looked<00:22:07.440> at<00:22:08.280> a um and and I looked back we looked at a um and and I looked back we looked at a 10-year<00:22:09.120> keger<00:22:09.720> on<00:22:09.880> both<00:22:10.360> the<00:22:10.520> schools<00:22:11.160> growth 10-year keger on both the schools growth 10-year keger on both the schools growth and<00:22:12.440> the<00:22:12.560> town<00:22:12.920> side<00:22:13.200> without<00:22:13.520> these<00:22:13.680> benefit and the town side without these benefit and the town side without these benefit costs<00:22:14.880> both<00:22:15.200> have<00:22:15.360> grown<00:22:15.680> at<00:22:15.800> about<00:22:16.120> 4%<00:22:17.080> over costs both have grown at about 4% over costs both have grown at about 4% over the<00:22:17.320> last<00:22:17.560> 10<00:22:17.760> years the last 10 years the last 10 years so<00:22:19.320> again<00:22:19.720> we<00:22:19.800> talked<00:22:20.040> about<00:22:20.240> a<00:22:20.280> structural so again we talked about a structural so again we talked about a structural challenge<00:22:21.600> as<00:22:21.760> I<00:22:21.840> mentioned<00:22:22.200> deficit<00:22:22.720> is challenge as I mentioned deficit is challenge as I mentioned deficit is another<00:22:23.080> word<00:22:23.720> we<00:22:23.840> know<00:22:24.000> property<00:22:24.360> tax another word we know property tax another word we know property tax revenue<00:22:25.000> only<00:22:25.200> grows<00:22:25.440> at<00:22:25.560> two<00:22:25.680> and<00:22:25.760> a<00:22:25.800> half<00:22:26.000> to revenue only grows at two and a half to revenue only grows at two and a half to three<00:22:26.760> and<00:22:26.880> both<00:22:27.120> sides<00:22:27.400> have<00:22:27.480> been<00:22:27.600> growing three and both sides have been growing three and both sides have been growing at<00:22:28.000> four<00:22:28.560> right<00:22:28.920> so<00:22:29.600> that's<00:22:29.880> where<00:22:30.040> a<00:22:30.080> lot<00:22:30.360> of at four right so that’s where a lot of at four right so that’s where a lot of the<00:22:30.840> available<00:22:31.400> free<00:22:31.600> cash<00:22:32.000> has<00:22:32.160> gone<00:22:32.920> and the available free cash has gone and the available free cash has gone and then<00:22:33.160> I<00:22:33.200> think<00:22:33.400> it's<00:22:33.520> sort<00:22:33.760> of<00:22:33.840> a<00:22:33.880> perfect then I think it’s sort of a perfect then I think it’s sort of a perfect storm<00:22:34.560> this<00:22:34.760> year<00:22:35.000> with<00:22:35.520> last<00:22:35.920> year<00:22:36.080> the<00:22:36.200> 14% storm this year with last year the 14% storm this year with last year the 14% and<00:22:37.320> then<00:22:37.480> another<00:22:38.120> 10<00:22:38.360> plus<00:22:38.680> percent<00:22:39.160> on<00:22:39.280> the

22:39 and then another 10 plus percent on the and then another 10 plus percent on the health<00:22:39.880> insurance<00:22:40.320> again<00:22:41.080> so<00:22:41.240> we've<00:22:41.400> kind<00:22:41.600> of health insurance again so we’ve kind of health insurance again so we’ve kind of been<00:22:42.160> moving<00:22:42.560> the<00:22:42.680> needle<00:22:43.080> of<00:22:43.200> available been moving the needle of available been moving the needle of available revenue<00:22:44.160> and<00:22:44.280> the<00:22:44.360> expenses<00:22:44.960> going<00:22:45.240> up<00:22:45.440> and revenue and the expenses going up and revenue and the expenses going up and we’ve<00:22:45.640> kind<00:22:45.840> of<00:22:45.920> hit<00:22:46.280> our<00:22:46.720> our<00:22:47.240> bump<00:22:47.480> in<00:22:47.560> the we’ve kind of hit our our bump in the we’ve kind of hit our our bump in the road road road um<00:22:49.160> I<00:22:49.240> will<00:22:49.440> say<00:22:49.640> I<00:22:49.880> I'm<00:22:50.080> not<00:22:50.320> surprised<00:22:50.880> we<00:22:51.000> are um I will say I I’m not surprised we are um I will say I I’m not surprised we are here<00:22:51.840> um<00:22:51.960> if<00:22:52.120> you<00:22:52.240> read<00:22:52.560> any<00:22:52.720> of<00:22:52.840> our<00:22:52.960> fincom here um if you read any of our fincom here um if you read any of our fincom reports<00:22:53.760> we've<00:22:53.880> been<00:22:54.040> saying<00:22:54.360> this<00:22:54.520> is<00:22:54.640> coming reports we’ve been saying this is coming reports we’ve been saying this is coming um<00:22:56.120> and<00:22:56.280> it's<00:22:56.400> here<00:22:56.840> so um and it’s here so um and it’s here so um<00:22:58.320> at<00:22:58.440> the<00:22:58.520> end<00:22:58.600> of<00:22:58.680> the<00:22:58.720> day<00:22:59.080> I<00:22:59.120> think<00:22:59.400> it's um at the end of the day I think it’s um at the end of the day I think it’s it’s<00:22:59.920> a<00:23:00.000> fair<00:23:00.640> I<00:23:00.720> will<00:23:00.920> say<00:23:01.680> um it’s a fair I will say um it’s a fair I will say um while<00:23:02.600> I<00:23:02.680> didn't<00:23:02.880> know<00:23:03.080> if<00:23:03.240> I<00:23:03.320> wanted<00:23:03.520> to while I didn’t know if I wanted to while I didn’t know if I wanted to overcomplicate<00:23:04.240> it,<00:23:04.320> but<00:23:04.440> I<00:23:04.520> did<00:23:04.760> look<00:23:04.960> at<00:23:05.080> the overcomplicate it, but I did look at the overcomplicate it, but I did look at the 50/50<00:23:06.440> and<00:23:06.560> I<00:23:06.640> simply<00:23:06.920> said,<00:23:07.640> "If<00:23:07.800> schools<00:23:08.200> had 50/50 and I simply said, “If schools had 50/50 and I simply said, “If schools had 1.2<00:23:09.080> million<00:23:09.440> more<00:23:09.720> last<00:23:10.080> year<00:23:10.200> than<00:23:10.360> town, 1.2 million more last year than town, 1.2 million more last year than town, and<00:23:11.440> if<00:23:11.560> we<00:23:11.680> went<00:23:11.880> back<00:23:12.080> to<00:23:12.200> 50/50,<00:23:12.840> you're and if we went back to 50/50, you’re and if we went back to 50/50, you’re giving<00:23:13.240> 600<00:23:13.760> back,<00:23:14.240> right?" giving 600 back, right?” giving 600 back, right?” And<00:23:15.400> then<00:23:15.480> we<00:23:15.560> have<00:23:15.680> 600<00:23:16.160> less,<00:23:16.480> you're<00:23:16.560> giving And then we have 600 less, you’re giving And then we have 600 less, you’re giving 300,<00:23:17.560> you<00:23:17.720> go<00:23:17.920> coming<00:23:18.160> down<00:23:18.360> 300.<00:23:19.240> So,<00:23:19.400> the 300, you go coming down 300. So, the 300, you go coming down 300. So, the other<00:23:19.800> option<00:23:20.240> that<00:23:20.400> I<00:23:20.440> thought<00:23:20.720> about<00:23:21.080> was, other option that I thought about was, other option that I thought about was, “Well,<00:23:21.560> if<00:23:21.720> you<00:23:21.800> want<00:23:22.000> to<00:23:22.040> stick<00:23:22.400> with<00:23:22.520> the “Well, if you want to stick with the “Well, if you want to stick with the 50/50<00:23:23.360> and<00:23:23.520> just 50/50 and just 50/50 and just not<00:23:25.040> actually<00:23:25.760> dig<00:23:26.000> into<00:23:26.240> this,<00:23:26.960> you<00:23:27.120> would

23:27 not actually dig into this, you would not actually dig into this, you would have<00:23:27.520> to<00:23:27.600> come<00:23:27.760> down<00:23:28.000> 900, have to come down 900, have to come down 900, right?”<00:23:29.480> So,<00:23:30.360> it<00:23:30.520> it<00:23:30.880> it's<00:23:31.240> directionally, right?” So, it it it’s directionally, right?” So, it it it’s directionally, you<00:23:32.280> know,<00:23:32.400> 600,000<00:23:33.120> is<00:23:33.160> a<00:23:33.200> lot<00:23:33.400> of<00:23:33.440> money, you know, 600,000 is a lot of money, you know, 600,000 is a lot of money, but,<00:23:34.320> you<00:23:34.400> know,<00:23:34.760> on<00:23:34.880> a<00:23:34.960> 50<00:23:35.240> million<00:23:35.480> dollar but, you know, on a 50 million dollar but, you know, on a 50 million dollar budget,<00:23:36.000> it's<00:23:36.160> not<00:23:36.440> like<00:23:36.600> a<00:23:36.640> massive budget, it’s not like a massive budget, it’s not like a massive percentage<00:23:37.600> of<00:23:37.720> it. percentage of it. percentage of it. If<00:23:38.720> that<00:23:38.880> makes<00:23:39.080> sense.<00:23:39.560> So, If that makes sense. So, If that makes sense. So, um, um, um, I<00:23:41.880> I<00:23:41.920> guess<00:23:42.200> what<00:23:42.360> else<00:23:42.520> did<00:23:42.680> I<00:23:42.720> miss? I I guess what else did I miss? I I guess what else did I miss? » Can<00:23:42.880> I<00:23:42.960> Can<00:23:43.160> I<00:23:43.280> add<00:23:43.440> my<00:23:43.600> two?<00:23:44.200> I<00:23:44.320> think<00:23:44.680> one » Can I Can I add my two? I think one » Can I Can I add my two? I think one thing<00:23:45.000> that's<00:23:45.200> also<00:23:45.440> different<00:23:45.800> this<00:23:45.960> year<00:23:46.120> is thing that’s also different this year is thing that’s also different this year is our<00:23:46.400> revenue<00:23:46.800> is<00:23:46.920> actually<00:23:47.320> down<00:23:47.680> year<00:23:47.880> over our revenue is actually down year over our revenue is actually down year over year.<00:23:48.680> You<00:23:48.800> know,<00:23:48.920> driven<00:23:49.240> by<00:23:49.400> the<00:23:49.520> things year. You know, driven by the things year. You know, driven by the things that<00:23:49.880> Alec<00:23:50.200> had<00:23:50.320> mentioned,<00:23:50.720> but<00:23:50.880> in<00:23:51.000> a<00:23:51.120> normal that Alec had mentioned, but in a normal that Alec had mentioned, but in a normal year,<00:23:51.760> we<00:23:51.920> would<00:23:52.080> see<00:23:52.280> some<00:23:52.560> revenue<00:23:52.920> growth, year, we would see some revenue growth, year, we would see some revenue growth, and<00:23:53.680> that<00:23:53.920> would<00:23:54.080> be<00:23:54.240> split<00:23:55.400> according<00:23:55.840> to and that would be split according to and that would be split according to this<00:23:56.080> framework<00:23:56.560> of<00:23:56.720> 63%<00:23:58.080> to<00:23:58.200> the<00:23:58.280> schools<00:23:59.240> and this framework of 63% to the schools and this framework of 63% to the schools and 37%<00:24:00.120> to<00:24:00.160> the<00:24:00.240> town.<00:24:00.680> So,<00:24:01.560> we<00:24:01.680> just<00:24:01.920> don't<00:24:02.160> see 37% to the town. So, we just don’t see 37% to the town. So, we just don’t see that<00:24:02.920> in<00:24:03.160> in<00:24:03.360> this<00:24:03.600> year.<00:24:03.840> So,<00:24:04.160> it<00:24:04.320> is<00:24:04.480> really<00:24:04.760> a that in in this year. So, it is really a that in in this year. So, it is really a a<00:24:05.160> perfect<00:24:05.560> storm. a perfect storm. a perfect storm. Um, Um, Um, I<00:24:08.680> agree<00:24:09.440> with,<00:24:09.800> you<00:24:09.920> know,<00:24:10.040> a<00:24:10.120> lot<00:24:10.360> of<00:24:10.480> what I agree with, you know, a lot of what I agree with, you know, a lot of what Melissa<00:24:11.000> said.<00:24:11.240> The<00:24:11.400> framework<00:24:11.960> makes<00:24:12.160> sense

24:12 Melissa said. The framework makes sense Melissa said. The framework makes sense to<00:24:12.480> me.<00:24:12.640> I<00:24:12.720> can<00:24:12.920> understand<00:24:13.960> how<00:24:14.160> you<00:24:14.320> got to me. I can understand how you got to me. I can understand how you got there,<00:24:15.400> and<00:24:15.560> I<00:24:15.640> appreciate<00:24:16.400> that<00:24:16.520> it's<00:24:16.680> a there, and I appreciate that it’s a there, and I appreciate that it’s a number,<00:24:17.760> you<00:24:17.840> know,<00:24:18.080> assuming<00:24:18.560> the<00:24:18.680> inputs number, you know, assuming the inputs number, you know, assuming the inputs are<00:24:19.160> accurate,<00:24:19.640> that's<00:24:19.920> based<00:24:20.400> on<00:24:21.240> actual are accurate, that’s based on actual are accurate, that’s based on actual school-related<00:24:23.360> expenses<00:24:24.040> as<00:24:24.200> opposed<00:24:24.640> to, school-related expenses as opposed to, school-related expenses as opposed to, you<00:24:25.760> know,<00:24:25.920> pulling<00:24:26.240> a<00:24:26.280> number<00:24:26.560> out<00:24:26.680> of<00:24:26.760> a<00:24:26.840> hat you know, pulling a number out of a hat you know, pulling a number out of a hat to<00:24:27.240> make<00:24:28.040> budgets<00:24:28.400> balance.

24:34 A A thing that I’m struggling with is A A thing that I’m struggling with is it’s<00:24:34.240> a<00:24:34.360> different<00:24:35.000> framework<00:24:35.720> than<00:24:35.920> what it’s a different framework than what it’s a different framework than what we’ve<00:24:36.280> used<00:24:36.680> in<00:24:36.800> the<00:24:36.920> past,<00:24:37.600> and<00:24:37.760> now<00:24:37.960> you're we’ve used in the past, and now you’re we’ve used in the past, and now you’re talking<00:24:38.520> about,<00:24:38.760> "Okay,<00:24:38.960> if<00:24:39.080> we<00:24:39.240> use<00:24:39.480> this talking about, “Okay, if we use this talking about, “Okay, if we use this framework<00:24:40.120> going<00:24:40.720> forward,<00:24:41.160> it<00:24:41.240> has<00:24:41.480> these framework going forward, it has these framework going forward, it has these benefits<00:24:42.520> for<00:24:42.680> the<00:24:42.800> schools." benefits for the schools.” benefits for the schools.” And,<00:24:45.520> you<00:24:45.600> know,<00:24:46.360> 900,<00:24:47.520> 600,<00:24:48.480> a<00:24:48.560> lot<00:24:48.840> or<00:24:48.960> a And, you know, 900, 600, a lot or a And, you know, 900, 600, a lot or a little<00:24:49.360> in<00:24:49.440> the<00:24:49.560> budget, little in the budget, little in the budget, but<00:24:51.000> we're<00:24:51.160> looking<00:24:51.640> at<00:24:52.240> actual<00:24:52.720> educators<00:24:53.560> in but we’re looking at actual educators in but we’re looking at actual educators in our<00:24:53.920> classrooms<00:24:54.920> with<00:24:55.160> our<00:24:55.320> students. our classrooms with our students. our classrooms with our students. So,<00:24:56.760> how<00:24:57.000> do<00:24:57.240> we<00:24:57.760> take<00:24:58.080> the<00:24:58.200> leap<00:24:59.080> of<00:24:59.200> saying, So, how do we take the leap of saying, So, how do we take the leap of saying, “Okay,<00:25:00.080> you<00:25:00.160> know,<00:25:00.320> we<00:25:00.520> will<00:25:00.720> move<00:25:00.960> to<00:25:01.080> this “Okay, you know, we will move to this “Okay, you know, we will move to this new<00:25:01.440> framework new framework new framework and<00:25:03.200> know<00:25:03.440> that<00:25:03.640> next<00:25:04.000> year,<00:25:04.640> when<00:25:04.840> a and know that next year, when a and know that next year, when a different<00:25:05.360> problem<00:25:06.600> comes<00:25:06.880> forward,<00:25:07.400> there different problem comes forward, there different problem comes forward, there isn’t<00:25:07.960> a<00:25:08.040> different<00:25:08.560> framework isn’t a different framework isn’t a different framework proposed proposed proposed as<00:25:11.640> the<00:25:11.760> solution<00:25:12.240> to<00:25:12.360> that<00:25:13.160> problem?<00:25:13.600> I<00:25:13.640> think as the solution to that problem? I think as the solution to that problem? I think that’s<00:25:14.080> sort<00:25:14.240> of<00:25:14.320> what<00:25:14.440> I'm<00:25:14.560> struggling<00:25:14.880> with that’s sort of what I’m struggling with that’s sort of what I’m struggling with is<00:25:15.280> I<00:25:15.400> can<00:25:15.600> get<00:25:15.840> behind<00:25:16.280> this,<00:25:17.000> but<00:25:17.200> how<00:25:17.360> do<00:25:17.560> I is I can get behind this, but how do I is I can get behind this, but how do I have<00:25:17.800> the<00:25:17.920> confidence<00:25:18.920> that<00:25:19.480> I<00:25:19.560> don't<00:25:19.720> have<00:25:19.880> to

25:19 have the confidence that I don’t have to have the confidence that I don’t have to get<00:25:20.120> behind<00:25:20.400> something<00:25:20.760> else<00:25:21.320> a<00:25:21.400> year<00:25:21.600> from get behind something else a year from get behind something else a year from now?<00:25:22.640> I<00:25:22.880> I<00:25:23.040> think<00:25:23.320> what<00:25:23.480> I<00:25:23.560> would<00:25:23.720> like<00:25:23.960> to<00:25:24.120> see, now? I I think what I would like to see, now? I I think what I would like to see, too,<00:25:24.760> and<00:25:24.880> again,<00:25:25.160> this<00:25:25.400> is,<00:25:25.880> you<00:25:26.000> know,<00:25:26.280> based too, and again, this is, you know, based too, and again, this is, you know, based on<00:25:26.640> conferences<00:25:27.200> I've<00:25:27.320> been<00:25:27.440> sending on conferences I’ve been sending on conferences I’ve been sending Washington<00:25:28.200> and<00:25:28.280> other<00:25:28.640> towns<00:25:29.000> are<00:25:29.080> doing. Washington and other towns are doing. Washington and other towns are doing. What<00:25:30.680> I<00:25:30.760> would<00:25:30.920> like<00:25:31.080> to<00:25:31.200> see<00:25:31.400> is<00:25:31.520> at<00:25:31.680> the What I would like to see is at the What I would like to see is at the beginning<00:25:32.200> of<00:25:32.320> every<00:25:32.680> budget<00:25:33.080> season,<00:25:33.880> having beginning of every budget season, having beginning of every budget season, having and<00:25:34.640> then<00:25:34.760> we<00:25:34.920> can<00:25:35.080> decide<00:25:35.520> how<00:25:35.640> this<00:25:35.880> plays and then we can decide how this plays and then we can decide how this plays out,<00:25:36.280> but<00:25:36.400> having<00:25:36.760> a<00:25:36.960> group<00:25:37.800> with out, but having a group with out, but having a group with representation<00:25:38.720> from<00:25:38.920> the<00:25:38.960> school<00:25:39.280> board, representation from the school board, representation from the school board, being<00:25:39.880> on<00:25:40.200> the<00:25:40.280> school<00:25:40.560> committee,<00:25:41.200> to being on the school committee, to being on the school committee, to discuss<00:25:41.960> this<00:25:42.240> in<00:25:42.440> advance,<00:25:43.400> right?<00:25:43.680> To<00:25:43.920> and discuss this in advance, right? To and discuss this in advance, right? To and to<00:25:44.400> come<00:25:44.880> at<00:25:45.040> it<00:25:45.160> with<00:25:45.360> this<00:25:45.560> framework.<00:25:46.440> There to come at it with this framework. There to come at it with this framework. There will<00:25:46.840> be,<00:25:47.400> you<00:25:47.480> know,<00:25:47.640> this<00:25:47.920> is<00:25:48.200> this<00:25:48.440> is<00:25:48.600> a will be, you know, this is this is a will be, you know, this is this is a budget<00:25:49.040> season<00:25:49.320> unlike<00:25:49.680> any<00:25:49.920> I've<00:25:50.080> ever<00:25:50.320> seen, budget season unlike any I’ve ever seen, budget season unlike any I’ve ever seen, right?<00:25:51.280> But<00:25:51.400> there<00:25:51.560> will<00:25:51.720> be<00:25:51.880> new<00:25:52.040> challenges right? But there will be new challenges right? But there will be new challenges that<00:25:53.080> we<00:25:53.200> face,<00:25:53.960> and<00:25:54.160> so<00:25:54.520> I<00:25:54.640> think<00:25:55.000> meeting<00:25:55.320> at that we face, and so I think meeting at that we face, and so I think meeting at the<00:25:56.000> the<00:25:56.440> at<00:25:56.720> the<00:25:56.840> beginning<00:25:57.320> of<00:25:57.400> the<00:25:57.480> budget the the at the beginning of the budget the the at the beginning of the budget process<00:25:58.600> to<00:25:58.760> set<00:25:59.000> expectations,<00:25:59.760> to<00:25:59.840> discuss process to set expectations, to discuss process to set expectations, to discuss the<00:26:00.520> needs,<00:26:01.320> and<00:26:01.440> to<00:26:01.520> work<00:26:01.720> together<00:26:02.440> on<00:26:02.600> how the needs, and to work together on how the needs, and to work together on how they<00:26:02.840> will<00:26:03.000> be<00:26:03.120> addressed,<00:26:03.600> I<00:26:03.720> think<00:26:04.120> will<00:26:05.080> is

26:05 they will be addressed, I think will is they will be addressed, I think will is my<00:26:05.440> recommendation<00:26:06.160> for<00:26:06.440> a<00:26:06.480> path<00:26:06.800> forward. my recommendation for a path forward. my recommendation for a path forward. And<00:26:07.200> again,<00:26:07.480> it<00:26:07.600> is<00:26:07.800> what<00:26:08.120> I've<00:26:08.320> seen<00:26:08.640> in,<00:26:09.280> you And again, it is what I’ve seen in, you And again, it is what I’ve seen in, you know,<00:26:09.560> best<00:26:09.840> practice<00:26:10.320> across know, best practice across know, best practice across Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Can<00:26:12.240> I<00:26:12.280> just<00:26:12.760> interrupt<00:26:13.000> you<00:26:13.080> for<00:26:13.160> a<00:26:13.200> second? Can I just interrupt you for a second? Can I just interrupt you for a second? Um Um Um I<00:26:14.960> would<00:26:15.120> agree<00:26:15.360> with<00:26:15.520> that,<00:26:15.880> and<00:26:16.000> I<00:26:16.040> just<00:26:16.240> want I would agree with that, and I just want I would agree with that, and I just want to<00:26:16.800> I<00:26:16.920> just<00:26:17.240> think<00:26:17.520> if<00:26:17.600> we're<00:26:17.720> going<00:26:18.080> to<00:26:18.160> move to I just think if we’re going to move to I just think if we’re going to move in<00:26:18.520> this<00:26:18.680> direction,<00:26:19.120> cuz<00:26:19.280> when<00:26:19.400> the in this direction, cuz when the in this direction, cuz when the committee’s<00:26:20.040> decide,<00:26:20.920> I'm<00:26:21.000> just<00:26:21.200> I'm<00:26:21.320> just committee’s decide, I’m just I’m just committee’s decide, I’m just I’m just scared<00:26:21.720> of<00:26:22.120> whatever<00:26:22.360> it<00:26:22.440> is<00:26:22.600> that<00:26:22.680> we<00:26:22.840> want<00:26:22.960> we scared of whatever it is that we want we scared of whatever it is that we want we need<00:26:23.200> to<00:26:23.280> do. need to do. need to do. I<00:26:24.480> would<00:26:24.680> think<00:26:25.000> that<00:26:25.200> we<00:26:25.320> need<00:26:25.520> to<00:26:25.880> agree<00:26:26.080> upon I would think that we need to agree upon I would think that we need to agree upon when<00:26:26.800> the<00:26:26.920> start<00:26:27.240> budget<00:26:27.560> season<00:26:27.960> is.<00:26:28.440> That's when the start budget season is. That’s when the start budget season is. That’s right.<00:26:29.240> Yeah,<00:26:29.320> October.<00:26:30.040> It<00:26:30.120> doesn't<00:26:30.360> seem right. Yeah, October. It doesn’t seem right. Yeah, October. It doesn’t seem like<00:26:30.680> it's<00:26:31.400> Yeah,<00:26:31.560> October. like it’s Yeah, October. like it’s Yeah, October. I<00:26:32.960> just<00:26:33.160> want<00:26:33.280> to<00:26:33.360> make<00:26:33.480> sure<00:26:33.640> we're<00:26:33.720> aligned I just want to make sure we’re aligned I just want to make sure we’re aligned that<00:26:34.200> way,<00:26:34.920> cuz<00:26:35.040> if<00:26:35.160> we<00:26:35.480> if<00:26:35.640> we<00:26:35.760> had<00:26:35.960> these that way, cuz if we if we had these that way, cuz if we if we had these discussions discussions discussions or<00:26:37.563> [clears throat]<00:26:37.600> sell<00:26:37.800> them<00:26:37.920> out,<00:26:38.080> if<00:26:38.200> we or [clears throat] sell them out, if we or [clears throat] sell them out, if we had<00:26:38.480> this<00:26:38.640> level<00:26:38.880> discussion had this level discussion had this level discussion back<00:26:40.520> in<00:26:41.200> October,<00:26:41.600> November<00:26:42.360> to<00:26:42.440> this back in October, November to this back in October, November to this degree,<00:26:43.240> we'd<00:26:43.400> be<00:26:43.560> having<00:26:43.840> much,<00:26:44.400> you<00:26:44.480> know, degree, we’d be having much, you know, degree, we’d be having much, you know, this<00:26:45.080> this<00:26:45.160> would<00:26:45.240> be<00:26:45.280> much<00:26:45.520> different this this would be much different this this would be much different conversation. conversation. conversation. Do<00:26:47.160> you<00:26:47.200> want<00:26:47.320> to<00:26:47.400> stop?<00:26:47.640> I<00:26:47.840> I<00:26:48.160> either. Do you want to stop? I I either. Do you want to stop? I I either. I’d<00:26:49.400> like<00:26:49.560> to<00:26:49.760> just<00:26:50.080> follow<00:26:50.360> up<00:26:50.440> on<00:26:50.520> that,<00:26:50.680> too,

26:50 I’d like to just follow up on that, too, I’d like to just follow up on that, too, Kevin.<00:26:51.120> I<00:26:51.160> think<00:26:51.640> if<00:26:52.000> I,<00:26:52.600> what<00:26:52.720> I'm<00:26:52.800> hearing<00:26:53.200> in Kevin. I think if I, what I’m hearing in Kevin. I think if I, what I’m hearing in years,<00:26:53.560> how<00:26:53.680> do<00:26:53.800> you<00:26:53.880> know<00:26:54.120> that<00:26:54.520> the<00:26:54.600> school years, how do you know that the school years, how do you know that the school department<00:26:55.280> can<00:26:55.400> do<00:26:55.520> the<00:26:55.600> same<00:26:55.800> thing,<00:26:56.120> I'm department can do the same thing, I’m department can do the same thing, I’m sorry.<00:26:56.680> Right?<00:26:57.320> And<00:26:57.440> it's<00:26:57.600> also<00:26:57.960> it's sorry. Right? And it’s also it’s sorry. Right? And it’s also it’s positions<00:26:58.680> versus<00:26:59.000> people.<00:26:59.720> I<00:26:59.840> do<00:27:00.040> seeds positions versus people. I do seeds positions versus people. I do seeds versus<00:27:00.680> people.<00:27:01.440> And<00:27:01.600> if<00:27:01.800> next<00:27:02.040> year<00:27:02.120> you're versus people. And if next year you’re versus people. And if next year you’re going<00:27:02.320> to<00:27:02.400> have<00:27:02.480> two<00:27:02.800> these<00:27:03.240> potentially<00:27:03.720> two going to have two these potentially two going to have two these potentially two new<00:27:04.000> school<00:27:04.320> board<00:27:04.480> members.<00:27:05.200> So,<00:27:05.600> I<00:27:05.640> mean,<00:27:05.800> I new school board members. So, I mean, I new school board members. So, I mean, I think<00:27:06.200> I<00:27:06.240> would<00:27:06.400> be<00:27:06.520> happy<00:27:06.760> to<00:27:06.880> bring<00:27:07.080> to<00:27:07.160> my think I would be happy to bring to my think I would be happy to bring to my board board board something<00:27:09.920> that<00:27:10.080> would<00:27:10.200> that<00:27:10.600> to<00:27:10.840> to<00:27:11.240> to something that would that to to to something that would that to to to authorize<00:27:11.880> it.<00:27:12.520> What<00:27:12.720> whatever<00:27:13.040> that<00:27:13.280> looks authorize it. What whatever that looks authorize it. What whatever that looks like.<00:27:14.080> I<00:27:14.200> think<00:27:14.480> that<00:27:14.920> a<00:27:15.040> firm<00:27:15.480> policy like. I think that a firm policy like. I think that a firm policy and<00:27:16.840> we've<00:27:16.960> talked<00:27:17.200> about<00:27:17.360> this and we’ve talked about this and we’ve talked about this of<00:27:18.680> exact<00:27:19.480> of<00:27:19.720> exact<00:27:20.200> percentages<00:27:21.200> and<00:27:21.280> all of exact of exact percentages and all of exact of exact percentages and all that,<00:27:21.760> I<00:27:21.800> think<00:27:22.200> can<00:27:22.800> can<00:27:22.960> hurt<00:27:23.200> the<00:27:23.280> whole that, I think can can hurt the whole that, I think can can hurt the whole process<00:27:24.160> because<00:27:24.440> there<00:27:24.560> are<00:27:24.680> going<00:27:24.800> to<00:27:24.880> be process because there are going to be process because there are going to be some<00:27:25.160> years.<00:27:25.680> So,<00:27:25.800> maybe<00:27:26.000> it's<00:27:26.080> a<00:27:26.160> guideline some years. So, maybe it’s a guideline some years. So, maybe it’s a guideline that<00:27:27.160> we<00:27:27.280> use<00:27:27.520> some<00:27:27.640> guidelines<00:27:28.080> or<00:27:28.120> whatever that we use some guidelines or whatever that we use some guidelines or whatever word<00:27:28.680> we<00:27:28.800> want<00:27:28.960> to<00:27:29.040> use.<00:27:29.760> And<00:27:29.960> you<00:27:30.040> know,<00:27:30.160> I word we want to use. And you know, I word we want to use. And you know, I can’t<00:27:30.480> speak<00:27:30.760> for<00:27:30.840> my<00:27:30.960> board,<00:27:31.200> but<00:27:31.360> I<00:27:31.400> would<00:27:31.520> be can’t speak for my board, but I would be can’t speak for my board, but I would be happy<00:27:31.920> to<00:27:31.960> bring<00:27:32.120> it<00:27:32.200> back<00:27:32.440> to<00:27:32.520> them. happy to bring it back to them. happy to bring it back to them. And<00:27:33.680> and<00:27:33.800> propose<00:27:34.280> that<00:27:34.480> that<00:27:34.640> we<00:27:34.760> do<00:27:34.920> a<00:27:34.960> vote And and propose that that we do a vote And and propose that that we do a vote on<00:27:35.240> that<00:27:36.080> moving<00:27:36.360> forward.<00:27:37.120> If<00:27:37.280> that<00:27:37.440> would

27:37 on that moving forward. If that would on that moving forward. If that would make<00:27:37.760> you<00:27:37.840> guys<00:27:38.120> feel<00:27:38.280> comfortable,<00:27:38.640> I<00:27:38.680> think make you guys feel comfortable, I think make you guys feel comfortable, I think if<00:27:38.960> I<00:27:39.040> was<00:27:39.240> in<00:27:39.320> your<00:27:39.440> position<00:27:40.040> based<00:27:40.320> on<00:27:40.400> what if I was in your position based on what if I was in your position based on what Melissa<00:27:40.920> said<00:27:41.640> and<00:27:41.760> what<00:27:41.880> you<00:27:42.000> said,<00:27:42.520> um Melissa said and what you said, um Melissa said and what you said, um that that that that<00:27:45.000> that<00:27:45.080> that's<00:27:45.320> something<00:27:45.560> I<00:27:45.600> would<00:27:45.680> feel that that that’s something I would feel that that that’s something I would feel very<00:27:46.200> comfortable<00:27:46.520> proposing. very comfortable proposing. very comfortable proposing. I<00:27:48.000> like<00:27:48.240> the<00:27:48.400> idea<00:27:48.840> of,<00:27:49.400> you<00:27:49.520> know, I like the idea of, you know, I like the idea of, you know, formalizing<00:27:50.440> the<00:27:50.520> guideline<00:27:51.040> in<00:27:51.200> some<00:27:51.440> way. formalizing the guideline in some way. formalizing the guideline in some way. Um Um Um I<00:27:53.400> think<00:27:53.640> I<00:27:53.680> would<00:27:53.840> also<00:27:54.120> like<00:27:54.320> it<00:27:54.480> to<00:27:54.600> include, I think I would also like it to include, I think I would also like it to include, you<00:27:55.560> know,<00:27:55.680> the<00:27:55.800> framework<00:27:56.320> that<00:27:56.440> Molly you know, the framework that Molly you know, the framework that Molly talked<00:27:57.080> about.<00:27:57.360> You<00:27:57.480> know,<00:27:57.600> it's<00:27:57.840> that<00:27:58.000> we're talked about. You know, it’s that we’re talked about. You know, it’s that we’re coming<00:27:58.800> to<00:27:58.920> some<00:27:59.120> sort<00:27:59.360> of<00:27:59.440> agreement<00:28:00.040> as<00:28:00.240> to coming to some sort of agreement as to coming to some sort of agreement as to this<00:28:00.640> is<00:28:00.760> how<00:28:00.920> the<00:28:01.040> budget<00:28:01.400> process<00:28:01.840> is<00:28:02.000> going this is how the budget process is going this is how the budget process is going to<00:28:02.200> work to work to work in<00:28:03.720> the<00:28:03.800> future<00:28:04.280> so<00:28:04.440> that<00:28:04.600> we<00:28:04.720> don't<00:28:05.280> find in the future so that we don’t find in the future so that we don’t find ourselves<00:28:06.040> in<00:28:06.120> this<00:28:06.400> position.<00:28:07.520> Believe<00:28:07.920> it. ourselves in this position. Believe it. ourselves in this position. Believe it. Yes,<00:28:08.280> I<00:28:08.400> mean,<00:28:08.520> it's<00:28:08.600> fallible<00:28:09.000> for<00:28:09.080> years. Yes, I mean, it’s fallible for years. Yes, I mean, it’s fallible for years. So,<00:28:10.160> actually<00:28:10.680> along<00:28:10.960> those<00:28:11.080> lines, So, actually along those lines, So, actually along those lines, excuse<00:28:12.200> me. Yeah, I’m looking to add, you know, we Yeah, I’m looking to add, you know, we don’t don’t don’t people’s<00:28:18.320> plate<00:28:18.600> already,<00:28:18.920> but people’s plate already, but people’s plate already, but would<00:28:20.320> a<00:28:20.520> at<00:28:20.600> least<00:28:20.840> a<00:28:20.920> two-year<00:28:21.520> budgeting would a at least a two-year budgeting would a at least a two-year budgeting cycle<00:28:22.360> help<00:28:22.600> too<00:28:22.800> because<00:28:23.160> I<00:28:23.360> you<00:28:23.440> know,<00:28:23.600> I

28:23 cycle help too because I you know, I cycle help too because I you know, I know<00:28:23.800> we're<00:28:23.920> talking<00:28:24.120> about<00:28:24.320> spending<00:28:24.640> issues know we’re talking about spending issues know we’re talking about spending issues this<00:28:25.280> year, this year, this year, but<00:28:26.400> I<00:28:26.440> think<00:28:26.680> most<00:28:26.920> people<00:28:27.160> on<00:28:27.240> the<00:28:27.280> school but I think most people on the school but I think most people on the school committee<00:28:27.760> are<00:28:27.840> expecting<00:28:28.320> a<00:28:28.360> similar<00:28:28.840> issue committee are expecting a similar issue committee are expecting a similar issue next<00:28:29.920> year. next year. next year. And<00:28:31.040> I'm<00:28:31.120> not,<00:28:31.480> you<00:28:31.600> know,<00:28:31.720> does<00:28:31.880> it<00:28:31.960> make And I’m not, you know, does it make And I’m not, you know, does it make sense<00:28:32.480> to<00:28:32.600> kind<00:28:32.840> of<00:28:33.360> look<00:28:33.600> at<00:28:33.720> that<00:28:33.960> together? sense to kind of look at that together? sense to kind of look at that together? I<00:28:34.960> love<00:28:35.240> everything<00:28:35.600> about<00:28:35.840> that.<00:28:36.040> I<00:28:36.080> mean,<00:28:36.520> I I love everything about that. I mean, I I love everything about that. I mean, I mean,<00:28:36.920> even<00:28:37.200> longer.<00:28:37.560> I<00:28:37.640> would<00:28:37.800> love<00:28:38.000> to<00:28:38.120> be mean, even longer. I would love to be mean, even longer. I would love to be able<00:28:38.360> to<00:28:38.480> look<00:28:38.680> three<00:28:38.960> years<00:28:39.680> and<00:28:39.880> be<00:28:40.000> able<00:28:40.280> to able to look three years and be able to able to look three years and be able to prioritize<00:28:41.080> in<00:28:41.200> demands. prioritize in demands. prioritize in demands. You<00:28:42.720> said<00:28:42.880> that<00:28:43.080> so<00:28:43.200> that<00:28:43.360> nothing<00:28:43.720> comes<00:28:43.920> as<00:28:44.000> a You said that so that nothing comes as a You said that so that nothing comes as a surprise.<00:28:44.640> And<00:28:44.760> again,<00:28:45.000> and<00:28:45.160> that<00:28:45.480> is<00:28:45.640> a<00:28:45.720> lot surprise. And again, and that is a lot surprise. And again, and that is a lot of<00:28:46.160> what<00:28:46.400> from<00:28:46.640> you<00:28:46.760> and<00:28:46.880> what<00:28:47.000> I'm<00:28:47.120> hearing, of what from you and what I’m hearing, of what from you and what I’m hearing, that<00:28:48.040> is<00:28:48.160> what<00:28:48.280> is<00:28:48.440> discussed<00:28:48.920> in<00:28:49.000> these that is what is discussed in these that is what is discussed in these upfront<00:28:49.680> budget<00:28:49.960> meetings.<00:28:50.360> Not<00:28:50.720> just<00:28:51.000> the upfront budget meetings. Not just the upfront budget meetings. Not just the current,<00:28:51.920> it<00:28:52.080> is<00:28:52.240> also<00:28:52.560> looking<00:28:53.080> looking current, it is also looking looking current, it is also looking looking forward.<00:28:53.720> So,<00:28:54.080> I<00:28:54.200> do<00:28:54.480> I<00:28:54.560> love<00:28:54.760> that<00:28:54.920> idea.

29:00 Um I think also one thing just to add on Um I think also one thing just to add on what<00:29:00.760> I<00:29:00.840> like<00:29:01.160> about<00:29:01.480> this<00:29:01.720> framework<00:29:02.680> is<00:29:03.000> it what I like about this framework is it what I like about this framework is it feels<00:29:03.600> like<00:29:03.800> it<00:29:04.040> actually<00:29:04.440> is<00:29:04.560> reflective<00:29:05.200> of feels like it actually is reflective of feels like it actually is reflective of how<00:29:06.200> the<00:29:06.320> town<00:29:06.600> and<00:29:06.720> the<00:29:06.800> schools<00:29:07.400> operate. how the town and the schools operate. how the town and the schools operate. And<00:29:08.920> it<00:29:09.120> just<00:29:09.840> is<00:29:10.040> more<00:29:10.320> logical<00:29:10.960> to<00:29:11.080> me<00:29:11.840> than And it just is more logical to me than And it just is more logical to me than having<00:29:12.480> a<00:29:12.560> 50/50<00:29:13.320> split<00:29:13.840> where<00:29:14.000> you<00:29:14.160> have<00:29:14.360> all having a 50/50 split where you have all having a 50/50 split where you have all these<00:29:14.720> shared<00:29:15.240> expenses.<00:29:15.920> So,<00:29:16.440> so<00:29:16.720> I<00:29:16.800> just these shared expenses. So, so I just these shared expenses. So, so I just wanted<00:29:17.280> to<00:29:17.600> I<00:29:17.680> think<00:29:17.840> you<00:29:17.920> kind<00:29:18.080> of<00:29:18.160> said<00:29:18.320> that. wanted to I think you kind of said that. wanted to I think you kind of said that. » Yeah,<00:29:18.880> and<00:29:19.440> then<00:29:19.640> one<00:29:19.800> other<00:29:20.000> point,<00:29:20.280> I<00:29:20.320> know » Yeah, and then one other point, I know » Yeah, and then one other point, I know Mike<00:29:20.680> has<00:29:20.800> a<00:29:20.840> question<00:29:21.200> too.<00:29:21.800> Um Mike has a question too. Um Mike has a question too. Um I<00:29:22.920> think<00:29:23.120> we<00:29:23.240> were<00:29:23.360> getting<00:29:23.720> to<00:29:23.840> this<00:29:24.040> $1.5 I think we were getting to this $1.5 I think we were getting to this $1.5 million<00:29:25.040> number<00:29:25.960> or<00:29:26.200> or<00:29:26.440> folks<00:29:27.000> other<00:29:27.200> than<00:29:27.400> me million number or or folks other than me million number or or folks other than me were<00:29:27.680> getting<00:29:27.960> to<00:29:28.120> it<00:29:28.280> in<00:29:28.400> a<00:29:28.440> much<00:29:28.800> more<00:29:28.960> back were getting to it in a much more back were getting to it in a much more back of<00:29:29.280> a<00:29:29.320> napkin<00:29:29.720> way<00:29:30.040> and<00:29:30.200> this<00:29:30.400> was<00:29:30.880> the<00:29:30.960> only of a napkin way and this was the only of a napkin way and this was the only reason<00:29:31.400> why<00:29:31.520> I<00:29:31.600> started<00:29:32.120> kind<00:29:32.320> of<00:29:32.400> breaking<00:29:32.760> it reason why I started kind of breaking it reason why I started kind of breaking it down<00:29:33.200> this<00:29:33.400> way<00:29:34.040> was<00:29:34.200> to<00:29:34.320> try<00:29:34.480> to<00:29:34.640> actually down this way was to try to actually down this way was to try to actually support<00:29:35.520> it,<00:29:35.720> right?<00:29:36.120> Rather<00:29:36.440> than<00:29:36.600> just<00:29:36.840> say, support it, right? Rather than just say, support it, right? Rather than just say, “Hey,<00:29:37.280> our<00:29:37.440> health<00:29:37.640> insurance<00:29:38.240> and<00:29:38.880> our “Hey, our health insurance and our “Hey, our health insurance and our pension<00:29:39.600> are<00:29:39.680> going<00:29:39.880> up<00:29:40.000> by<00:29:40.120> this."<00:29:40.480> And<00:29:40.880> I've pension are going up by this.” And I’ve pension are going up by this.” And I’ve heard<00:29:41.240> this<00:29:41.400> 60%<00:29:42.120> number<00:29:42.520> and<00:29:43.000> 60%<00:29:43.600> of<00:29:43.680> those heard this 60% number and 60% of those heard this 60% number and 60% of those increases<00:29:44.400> are<00:29:44.520> 1.5.<00:29:45.600> I<00:29:45.680> said,<00:29:45.880> "That<00:29:46.080> doesn't

29:46 increases are 1.5. I said, “That doesn’t increases are 1.5. I said, “That doesn’t really<00:29:46.480> feel<00:29:47.040> like<00:29:47.280> a<00:29:47.360> sound<00:29:47.840> analysis."<00:29:48.880> So, really feel like a sound analysis.” So, really feel like a sound analysis.” So, um<00:29:50.240> we<00:29:50.400> happen<00:29:50.720> to<00:29:50.840> land<00:29:51.120> in<00:29:51.200> a<00:29:51.240> similar<00:29:51.600> spot. um we happen to land in a similar spot. um we happen to land in a similar spot. Sometimes<00:29:52.400> you<00:29:52.480> get<00:29:52.600> lucky,<00:29:52.960> right?<00:29:53.640> Um<00:29:54.080> so<00:29:54.520> so Sometimes you get lucky, right? Um so so Sometimes you get lucky, right? Um so so I<00:29:54.720> just<00:29:54.880> wanted<00:29:55.040> to<00:29:55.120> point<00:29:55.280> that<00:29:55.440> out<00:29:55.560> as<00:29:55.680> well. I just wanted to point that out as well. I just wanted to point that out as well. So,<00:29:57.320> there<00:29:57.440> was<00:29:57.640> a<00:29:57.680> little<00:29:57.840> bit<00:29:58.000> late<00:29:58.160> in<00:29:58.240> the So, there was a little bit late in the So, there was a little bit late in the game<00:29:58.600> though.

30:06 Yeah, but I sorry. So, I I want to thank Yeah, but I sorry. So, I I want to thank Dan<00:30:07.360> and Dan and Dan and Molly<00:30:08.760> and<00:30:09.000> Alec<00:30:09.320> for<00:30:09.480> this Molly and Alec for this Molly and Alec for this for<00:30:11.960> last<00:30:12.280> week<00:30:12.640> we<00:30:12.760> met. for last week we met. for last week we met. You<00:30:14.320> showed<00:30:14.520> me<00:30:14.600> the<00:30:14.720> spreadsheet. You showed me the spreadsheet. You showed me the spreadsheet. First<00:30:15.880> I<00:30:15.960> saw<00:30:16.200> of<00:30:16.320> it<00:30:16.560> Friday<00:30:16.840> afternoon. First I saw of it Friday afternoon. First I saw of it Friday afternoon. I<00:30:18.240> get<00:30:18.480> it.<00:30:19.120> Um<00:30:19.360> I<00:30:19.440> have<00:30:19.560> a<00:30:19.600> couple<00:30:19.840> of<00:30:19.920> them I get it. Um I have a couple of them I get it. Um I have a couple of them just<00:30:20.240> so<00:30:20.320> I<00:30:20.360> can<00:30:21.000> have<00:30:21.160> a<00:30:21.200> flow.<00:30:21.560> So,<00:30:21.680> anyway, just so I can have a flow. So, anyway, just so I can have a flow. So, anyway, yeah. yeah. yeah. I<00:30:23.400> think<00:30:23.600> in<00:30:23.680> the<00:30:23.800> future<00:30:24.560> it'll<00:30:24.720> be<00:30:24.880> critical I think in the future it’ll be critical I think in the future it’ll be critical to to to include<00:30:26.680> where<00:30:26.800> we're<00:30:26.960> 63%<00:30:27.960> of<00:30:28.040> this<00:30:28.200> number include where we’re 63% of this number include where we’re 63% of this number that<00:30:29.080> we're<00:30:29.320> earlier<00:30:29.720> on<00:30:29.880> in<00:30:29.960> discussion that we’re earlier on in discussion that we’re earlier on in discussion about<00:30:30.840> how<00:30:31.120> we<00:30:31.280> formulate<00:30:31.880> this<00:30:32.000> stuff.<00:30:32.520> Yeah. about how we formulate this stuff. Yeah. about how we formulate this stuff. Yeah. Cuz<00:30:33.160> I<00:30:33.280> couldn't<00:30:33.560> explain<00:30:33.880> it<00:30:33.960> to<00:30:34.040> our Cuz I couldn’t explain it to our Cuz I couldn’t explain it to our committee<00:30:34.600> until<00:30:34.960> I committee until I committee until I saw<00:30:36.080> it<00:30:36.280> and<00:30:36.440> I<00:30:36.600> and<00:30:36.720> I<00:30:36.760> still<00:30:36.960> didn't<00:30:37.280> know saw it and I and I still didn’t know saw it and I and I still didn’t know that<00:30:37.760> I<00:30:37.840> can<00:30:38.000> explain<00:30:38.400> it<00:30:38.480> as<00:30:38.640> well<00:30:38.840> as<00:30:38.960> you that I can explain it as well as you that I can explain it as well as you guys<00:30:39.320> can<00:30:39.440> cuz<00:30:39.560> you<00:30:39.640> guys<00:30:39.840> built<00:30:40.120> it. guys can cuz you guys built it. guys can cuz you guys built it. If<00:30:41.800> you<00:30:41.920> just<00:30:42.160> look<00:30:42.320> at<00:30:42.400> Thatcher's,<00:30:43.080> you<00:30:43.200> had If you just look at Thatcher’s, you had If you just look at Thatcher’s, you had up<00:30:43.440> there<00:30:43.560> only<00:30:43.760> Thatcher's<00:30:44.400> FY27<00:30:45.480> benefits up there only Thatcher’s FY27 benefits up there only Thatcher’s FY27 benefits cost<00:30:46.200> analysis. And and I think we had this conversation And and I think we had this conversation on<00:30:50.400> Friday.<00:30:50.880> It's<00:30:51.520> confirming<00:30:52.000> the<00:30:52.080> numbers.

30:53 on Friday. It’s confirming the numbers. on Friday. It’s confirming the numbers. It’s<00:30:53.480> the<00:30:53.600> formula<00:30:54.040> works<00:30:54.600> potentially It’s the formula works potentially It’s the formula works potentially within<00:30:55.280> that<00:30:55.440> spreadsheet,<00:30:55.880> but<00:30:56.560> bad<00:30:56.760> data<00:30:57.000> in within that spreadsheet, but bad data in within that spreadsheet, but bad data in is<00:30:57.200> bad<00:30:57.360> data. is bad data. is bad data. Exactly.<00:30:59.040> Um Exactly. Um Exactly. Um It’s<00:31:01.560> your<00:31:01.720> mic,<00:31:01.960> Hugh. It’s your mic, Hugh. It’s your mic, Hugh. Didn’t<00:31:03.120> share<00:31:03.360> anything.<00:31:03.760> I<00:31:03.800> didn't<00:31:04.160> share Didn’t share anything. I didn’t share Didn’t share anything. I didn’t share that<00:31:04.560> at<00:31:04.640> least. that at least. that at least. Oh<00:31:06.000> oh<00:31:06.200> oh,<00:31:06.400> sorry. Oh oh oh, sorry. Oh oh oh, sorry. I<00:31:07.560> didn't<00:31:07.840> I'm<00:31:08.000> sharing<00:31:08.280> my<00:31:08.400> screen.<00:31:08.760> Maybe<00:31:09.000> it I didn’t I’m sharing my screen. Maybe it I didn’t I’m sharing my screen. Maybe it just<00:31:10.000> It's<00:31:10.080> right<00:31:10.320> in<00:31:10.400> front<00:31:10.560> of<00:31:10.640> me. » [laughter] » [laughter] » You<00:31:14.400> should<00:31:14.560> see<00:31:14.720> me.<00:31:15.320> So.<00:31:15.920> Let<00:31:16.080> me<00:31:16.160> see<00:31:16.240> this » You should see me. So. Let me see this » You should see me. So. Let me see this one.<00:31:16.560> On<00:31:16.720> line<00:31:16.960> 17<00:31:17.760> 17<00:31:18.240> on<00:31:18.320> my<00:31:18.440> screen.<00:31:18.960> It one. On line 17 17 on my screen. It one. On line 17 17 on my screen. It might<00:31:19.200> be<00:31:19.320> a<00:31:19.400> different<00:31:19.640> on<00:31:19.720> your<00:31:19.840> screen.<00:31:20.680> Um might be a different on your screen. Um might be a different on your screen. Um we<00:31:20.960> have<00:31:21.080> the<00:31:21.160> GIC<00:31:21.800> active.<00:31:22.840> Yeah. we have the GIC active. Yeah. we have the GIC active. Yeah. I<00:31:23.880> believe<00:31:24.080> they're<00:31:24.200> using I believe they’re using I believe they’re using numbers<00:31:25.720> that<00:31:25.840> came<00:31:26.040> over<00:31:26.160> from<00:31:26.280> the<00:31:26.400> town, numbers that came over from the town, numbers that came over from the town, 8.71<00:31:27.880> million. 8.71 million. 8.71 million. I<00:31:29.960> took<00:31:30.360> our I took our I took our exact<00:31:31.800> roster<00:31:32.200> of<00:31:32.320> people<00:31:32.640> who<00:31:32.800> have exact roster of people who have exact roster of people who have benefits,<00:31:33.680> what<00:31:33.880> plan<00:31:34.160> they're<00:31:34.360> all<00:31:34.520> on. benefits, what plan they’re all on. benefits, what plan they’re all on. I<00:31:36.120> put<00:31:36.320> in<00:31:36.480> the<00:31:36.600> new<00:31:36.840> rates<00:31:37.120> as<00:31:37.320> of<00:31:37.440> Friday<00:31:37.800> when I put in the new rates as of Friday when I put in the new rates as of Friday when they<00:31:38.040> were<00:31:38.200> released.<00:31:38.480> And<00:31:38.600> I<00:31:38.640> guess<00:31:38.840> this<00:31:39.000> was

31:39 they were released. And I guess this was they were released. And I guess this was done<00:31:39.360> before<00:31:39.960> Right. done before Right. done before Right. And<00:31:41.240> before<00:31:41.520> the<00:31:41.680> GIC<00:31:42.160> release<00:31:42.480> rates. And before the GIC release rates. And before the GIC release rates. But<00:31:43.680> I<00:31:43.800> came<00:31:44.080> up<00:31:44.280> with<00:31:44.600> our<00:31:44.880> number<00:31:45.280> of<00:31:45.440> people But I came up with our number of people But I came up with our number of people on<00:31:45.880> GIC on GIC on GIC to<00:31:47.720> be<00:31:48.200> 8.370. to be 8.370. to be 8.370. Yeah,<00:31:51.200> I<00:31:51.280> did<00:31:51.440> Which<00:31:51.640> is<00:31:51.760> a<00:31:51.840> small<00:31:52.360> cushion<00:31:52.720> on Yeah, I did Which is a small cushion on Yeah, I did Which is a small cushion on that<00:31:53.080> line<00:31:53.360> that<00:31:53.600> has<00:31:53.920> has<00:31:54.120> dropped.<00:31:55.000> So. that line that has has dropped. So. that line that has has dropped. So. There’s<00:31:56.160> also<00:31:56.440> a<00:31:56.480> cushion<00:31:56.840> down<00:31:57.040> below<00:31:57.480> of There’s also a cushion down below of There’s also a cushion down below of $350,000. $350,000. $350,000. So<00:31:59.240> now<00:31:59.400> we<00:31:59.520> have<00:31:59.720> two<00:31:59.920> cushions<00:32:00.360> built<00:32:00.640> into So now we have two cushions built into So now we have two cushions built into into<00:32:01.320> benefits. into benefits. into benefits. And<00:32:02.800> it's<00:32:03.000> affecting<00:32:03.680> our<00:32:04.000> number. And it’s affecting our number. And it’s affecting our number. And<00:32:05.560> if<00:32:05.680> we're<00:32:05.800> 63 And if we’re 63 And if we’re 63 37,<00:32:08.480> why<00:32:08.680> isn't<00:32:09.000> the<00:32:09.120> cushion<00:32:09.600> also 37, why isn’t the cushion also 37, why isn’t the cushion also $350,000<00:32:12.880> is<00:32:12.960> split<00:32:13.160> 50/50? $350,000 is split 50/50? $350,000 is split 50/50? Yeah,<00:32:15.040> I<00:32:15.120> mean,<00:32:16.000> I<00:32:16.120> would<00:32:16.320> say<00:32:16.720> my<00:32:16.920> only Yeah, I mean, I would say my only Yeah, I mean, I would say my only response<00:32:17.640> is<00:32:17.800> that,<00:32:18.000> you<00:32:18.080> know,<00:32:18.360> Alicia<00:32:18.800> needs response is that, you know, Alicia needs response is that, you know, Alicia needs to<00:32:19.160> work<00:32:19.360> with<00:32:19.560> you<00:32:19.760> to<00:32:20.080> kind<00:32:20.240> of<00:32:20.320> get<00:32:20.760> I<00:32:21.160> get to work with you to kind of get I get to work with you to kind of get I get that,<00:32:21.480> but<00:32:21.640> we're<00:32:22.080> like<00:32:22.640> we're<00:32:22.760> at<00:32:22.840> the<00:32:22.920> 11th that, but we’re like we’re at the 11th that, but we’re like we’re at the 11th hour. hour.

32:24 hour. I<00:32:24.240> mean,<00:32:24.440> I<00:32:24.560> don't<00:32:24.800> know<00:32:25.000> that<00:32:25.120> we<00:32:25.240> have<00:32:25.400> time I mean, I don’t know that we have time I mean, I don’t know that we have time for<00:32:26.560> Alicia<00:32:26.920> and<00:32:27.040> I<00:32:27.160> to<00:32:27.320> sit<00:32:27.480> down<00:32:27.680> and<00:32:27.800> meet. for Alicia and I to sit down and meet. for Alicia and I to sit down and meet. Okay. Okay. Okay. I<00:32:29.760> I<00:32:29.960> I I I I I I I As<00:32:31.080> we<00:32:31.200> said<00:32:31.400> starting<00:32:31.680> this<00:32:31.840> I<00:32:31.920> started<00:32:32.200> this. As we said starting this I started this. As we said starting this I started this. Bad<00:32:33.640> data<00:32:33.880> in<00:32:33.960> is<00:32:34.080> bad<00:32:34.280> data<00:32:34.520> out.<00:32:35.360> And<00:32:35.480> if<00:32:35.640> I Bad data in is bad data out. And if I Bad data in is bad data out. And if I don’t<00:32:35.920> agree<00:32:36.160> with<00:32:36.320> the<00:32:36.400> data,<00:32:36.920> I<00:32:37.040> can't don’t agree with the data, I can’t don’t agree with the data, I can’t advise<00:32:37.680> the<00:32:37.760> committee<00:32:38.160> that<00:32:38.320> I<00:32:38.400> think<00:32:38.600> that advise the committee that I think that advise the committee that I think that this<00:32:38.920> is<00:32:39.040> a<00:32:39.280> great<00:32:39.520> idea.<00:32:40.160> I<00:32:40.240> think<00:32:40.440> it<00:32:40.520> is<00:32:40.600> a this is a great idea. I think it is a this is a great idea. I think it is a great<00:32:40.920> idea<00:32:41.320> if<00:32:41.440> the<00:32:41.560> data<00:32:41.800> was great idea if the data was great idea if the data was substantial,<00:32:44.400> you<00:32:44.480> know, substantial, you know, substantial, you know, substantial,<00:32:47.480> sorry. substantial, sorry. substantial, sorry. There<00:32:49.320> is<00:32:49.520> a<00:32:49.640> There<00:32:49.840> is<00:32:49.960> a<00:32:50.040> cushion<00:32:50.440> in<00:32:50.560> that There is a There is a cushion in that There is a There is a cushion in that number<00:32:51.080> that<00:32:51.400> that<00:32:51.560> needs<00:32:51.840> to<00:32:51.920> be<00:32:52.000> there number that that needs to be there number that that needs to be there because<00:32:52.480> of<00:32:52.560> the<00:32:52.640> variability,<00:32:53.800> but<00:32:53.960> it<00:32:54.120> is<00:32:54.400> at because of the variability, but it is at because of the variability, but it is at this<00:32:54.800> point<00:32:55.080> we<00:32:55.200> know<00:32:55.520> based<00:32:55.840> on<00:32:55.920> looking<00:32:56.200> at this point we know based on looking at this point we know based on looking at year-to-date<00:32:56.840> numbers. Wait, wait. No, no, but what I I don’t Wait, wait. No, no, but what I I don’t think<00:33:01.080> I've<00:33:01.720> put<00:33:01.880> that<00:33:02.040> in<00:33:02.160> my think I’ve put that in my think I’ve put that in my I<00:33:03.520> I've<00:33:03.960> got<00:33:04.120> to<00:33:04.200> go<00:33:04.360> in<00:33:04.480> mine,<00:33:04.760> though.<00:33:05.040> 20 I I’ve got to go in mine, though. 20 I I’ve got to go in mine, though. 20 that<00:33:05.520> says<00:33:05.800> GIC<00:33:06.600> for<00:33:06.760> cushions.<00:33:07.800> GIC<00:33:08.240> cushion that says GIC for cushions. GIC cushion that says GIC for cushions. GIC cushion for<00:33:08.680> changes<00:33:09.040> 350,000<00:33:10.200> for<00:33:10.320> the<00:33:10.440> town<00:33:10.720> and<00:33:10.840> the

33:10 for changes 350,000 for the town and the for changes 350,000 for the town and the school,<00:33:11.800> and<00:33:11.920> it's<00:33:12.080> not<00:33:12.320> up<00:33:12.440> in<00:33:12.560> Wethersfield, school, and it’s not up in Wethersfield, school, and it’s not up in Wethersfield, but<00:33:13.200> I<00:33:13.280> have<00:33:13.440> it<00:33:13.520> on but I have it on but I have it on the<00:33:14.400> same<00:33:14.640> side<00:33:14.920> I<00:33:15.000> have. the same side I have. the same side I have. » Yeah,<00:33:15.520> I<00:33:15.600> guess<00:33:15.840> I<00:33:15.920> didn't<00:33:16.160> pull<00:33:16.320> that<00:33:16.640> line » Yeah, I guess I didn’t pull that line » Yeah, I guess I didn’t pull that line in. in. in. I<00:33:17.840> didn't I didn’t I didn’t I<00:33:18.880> guess<00:33:19.080> what<00:33:19.200> happened.<00:33:19.400> You<00:33:19.440> guys<00:33:19.600> can I guess what happened. You guys can I guess what happened. You guys can share<00:33:19.920> your<00:33:20.000> screen<00:33:20.480> because<00:33:20.800> this<00:33:20.960> is<00:33:21.080> a share your screen because this is a share your screen because this is a poll.<00:33:21.200> You<00:33:21.240> want<00:33:21.400> to<00:33:21.480> share<00:33:21.680> your<00:33:21.800> screen? poll. You want to share your screen? poll. You want to share your screen? But<00:33:24.200> I<00:33:24.320> I<00:33:24.400> agree<00:33:24.640> there's<00:33:24.840> a<00:33:24.880> cushion,<00:33:25.320> but<00:33:25.480> it But I I agree there’s a cushion, but it But I I agree there’s a cushion, but it looks<00:33:25.680> like<00:33:25.800> there<00:33:26.120> seem<00:33:26.280> to<00:33:26.360> be<00:33:26.480> two looks like there seem to be two looks like there seem to be two cushions. cushions. cushions. And<00:33:28.080> two<00:33:28.280> cushions<00:33:29.040> is<00:33:29.160> $350,000. And two cushions is $350,000. And two cushions is $350,000. For<00:33:31.120> us,<00:33:31.920> that's<00:33:32.160> likely<00:33:33.000> four<00:33:33.200> to<00:33:33.280> five For us, that’s likely four to five For us, that’s likely four to five positions<00:33:34.560> out<00:33:34.680> of<00:33:34.760> our<00:33:35.000> budget<00:33:35.280> that<00:33:35.360> we're positions out of our budget that we’re positions out of our budget that we’re going<00:33:35.560> to<00:33:35.640> have<00:33:35.720> to<00:33:35.760> cut.<00:33:36.800> Well,<00:33:37.200> So,<00:33:37.320> do<00:33:37.440> we going to have to cut. Well, So, do we going to have to cut. Well, So, do we keep<00:33:37.800> our<00:33:37.880> cushion<00:33:38.240> or<00:33:38.280> do<00:33:38.360> we<00:33:38.480> keep<00:33:38.680> our keep our cushion or do we keep our keep our cushion or do we keep our staff?<00:33:39.600> Right.<00:33:40.400> We staff? Right. We staff? Right. We » Can<00:33:41.040> I<00:33:41.360> Can<00:33:41.520> I<00:33:41.560> just<00:33:41.800> touch<00:33:42.080> on<00:33:42.360> and<00:33:42.480> I<00:33:42.520> think » Can I Can I just touch on and I think » Can I Can I just touch on and I think Dan Dan Dan um I guess I’m not I don’t have an answer I guess I’m not I don’t have an answer to<00:33:47.920> that.<00:33:48.240> I<00:33:48.280> didn't<00:33:48.880> Can<00:33:49.040> he<00:33:49.120> talk<00:33:49.360> your<00:33:49.480> job, to that. I didn’t Can he talk your job, to that. I didn’t Can he talk your job, too?<00:33:50.360> I<00:33:50.400> mean,<00:33:50.640> right,<00:33:50.840> you're<00:33:50.960> FinCom, too? I mean, right, you’re FinCom, too? I mean, right, you’re FinCom, you’re you’re you’re for<00:33:52.440> all<00:33:52.520> intensive<00:33:52.800> purposes,<00:33:53.160> volunteering for all intensive purposes, volunteering for all intensive purposes, volunteering your<00:33:53.920> time. your time. your time. No,<00:33:55.200> but<00:33:55.360> I<00:33:55.400> think<00:33:55.600> it's<00:33:55.680> an<00:33:55.840> excellent<00:33:56.240> point.

33:56 No, but I think it’s an excellent point. No, but I think it’s an excellent point. Like<00:33:56.760> there<00:33:56.920> should<00:33:57.160> be<00:33:57.320> a<00:33:57.360> cushion<00:33:57.720> in<00:33:57.840> there, Like there should be a cushion in there, Like there should be a cushion in there, but<00:33:58.200> it<00:33:58.320> should<00:33:58.480> be<00:33:58.600> reasonable<00:33:59.320> and<00:33:59.440> to<00:33:59.600> the but it should be reasonable and to the but it should be reasonable and to the extent<00:34:00.160> that<00:34:00.360> it<00:34:00.640> is<00:34:01.040> overstated. extent that it is overstated. extent that it is overstated. You<00:34:02.960> know,<00:34:03.120> we've<00:34:03.360> been<00:34:03.520> trying<00:34:03.920> to<00:34:04.080> bring You know, we’ve been trying to bring You know, we’ve been trying to bring down<00:34:04.680> that<00:34:04.920> cushion<00:34:05.400> for<00:34:05.640> years<00:34:06.040> now,<00:34:06.360> right? down that cushion for years now, right? down that cushion for years now, right? And<00:34:06.840> so,<00:34:07.560> you<00:34:07.640> know,<00:34:07.800> based<00:34:08.120> on<00:34:08.240> looking<00:34:08.520> at And so, you know, based on looking at And so, you know, based on looking at year-to-date<00:34:09.159> numbers,<00:34:09.800> I<00:34:09.879> agree<00:34:10.159> with<00:34:10.360> you, year-to-date numbers, I agree with you, year-to-date numbers, I agree with you, there<00:34:10.639> is<00:34:10.760> a<00:34:10.840> cushion<00:34:11.440> and<00:34:11.560> I<00:34:11.639> think<00:34:11.879> we've there is a cushion and I think we’ve there is a cushion and I think we’ve said<00:34:12.399> like<00:34:12.720> these<00:34:13.000> numbers<00:34:13.399> need<00:34:13.600> to<00:34:13.679> be said like these numbers need to be said like these numbers need to be adjusted,<00:34:14.520> it<00:34:14.720> will<00:34:14.879> be<00:34:15.040> returned<00:34:15.600> to<00:34:15.720> the adjusted, it will be returned to the adjusted, it will be returned to the town town town » Yes.<00:34:17.120> following<00:34:17.520> that<00:34:17.879> ratio.<00:34:18.679> With<00:34:18.760> the<00:34:18.840> same » Yes. following that ratio. With the same » Yes. following that ratio. With the same and<00:34:19.720> and<00:34:19.919> be<00:34:20.080> specific<00:34:20.760> to<00:34:21.440> active<00:34:21.800> health and and be specific to active health and and be specific to active health insurance,<00:34:22.480> right?<00:34:22.720> So,<00:34:22.840> your<00:34:23.120> share<00:34:23.639> of insurance, right? So, your share of insurance, right? So, your share of that. that. that. » So,<00:34:24.480> so<00:34:24.639> this<00:34:24.919> spreadsheet<00:34:25.440> if<00:34:25.639> if<00:34:26.000> if<00:34:26.360> Sorry, » So, so this spreadsheet if if if Sorry, » So, so this spreadsheet if if if Sorry, I<00:34:26.720> thought<00:34:26.840> you<00:34:26.919> were<00:34:26.960> sharing.<00:34:27.800> I<00:34:27.879> thought I thought you were sharing. I thought I thought you were sharing. I thought you<00:34:28.120> were<00:34:28.200> going<00:34:28.320> to<00:34:28.360> share<00:34:28.520> your<00:34:28.639> screen<00:34:29.040> for you were going to share your screen for you were going to share your screen for a<00:34:29.159> second.<00:34:29.879> Um a second. Um a second. Um if<00:34:31.240> this<00:34:31.560> $13.1 if this $13.1 if this $13.1 number<00:34:33.879> came<00:34:34.120> down<00:34:34.520> between<00:34:34.919> now<00:34:35.240> and<00:34:35.360> next number came down between now and next number came down between now and next week,<00:34:36.120> we<00:34:36.280> would<00:34:36.480> rerun<00:34:36.879> this<00:34:37.040> analysis<00:34:37.720> and week, we would rerun this analysis and week, we would rerun this analysis and if<00:34:38.080> if<00:34:38.360> if<00:34:38.520> it<00:34:38.639> said<00:34:38.879> 1.3<00:34:39.520> million,<00:34:39.919> then<00:34:40.159> you if if if it said 1.3 million, then you if if if it said 1.3 million, then you get<00:34:40.480> 200,000<00:34:41.200> back.<00:34:41.480> And<00:34:41.720> and<00:34:41.840> Dan<00:34:42.120> has<00:34:42.760> I've

34:42 get 200,000 back. And and Dan has I’ve get 200,000 back. And and Dan has I’ve sat<00:34:43.120> with<00:34:43.240> him<00:34:43.520> and<00:34:44.040> I've<00:34:44.200> sat<00:34:44.480> with<00:34:45.159> uh sat with him and I’ve sat with uh sat with him and I’ve sat with uh Thatcher<00:34:45.879> and<00:34:46.000> Alicia<00:34:46.560> and<00:34:46.800> they<00:34:46.919> agree<00:34:47.159> with Thatcher and Alicia and they agree with Thatcher and Alicia and they agree with all<00:34:47.480> of<00:34:47.560> them. all of them. all of them. I’m<00:34:48.440> very<00:34:48.840> adamant<00:34:49.399> that<00:34:50.280> if<00:34:50.399> they're<00:34:50.560> making I’m very adamant that if they’re making I’m very adamant that if they’re making changes<00:34:51.480> to<00:34:51.600> anything<00:34:51.960> that<00:34:52.120> it<00:34:52.200> gets changes to anything that it gets changes to anything that it gets reflected<00:34:53.000> in<00:34:53.120> here,<00:34:53.320> like<00:34:53.520> I<00:34:53.560> said<00:34:53.840> before. reflected in here, like I said before. reflected in here, like I said before. Okay,<00:34:54.440> and<00:34:54.560> that's<00:34:55.040> that's<00:34:55.320> clearly Okay, and that’s that’s clearly Okay, and that’s that’s clearly important,<00:34:56.159> right?<00:34:56.440> And<00:34:56.760> you<00:34:56.840> know,<00:34:57.080> I<00:34:57.160> think important, right? And you know, I think important, right? And you know, I think I<00:34:57.760> think<00:34:57.920> this<00:34:58.080> discussion's<00:34:58.600> been<00:34:58.800> great.<00:34:59.200> I I think this discussion’s been great. I I think this discussion’s been great. I think<00:34:59.440> this<00:34:59.640> way<00:35:00.040> in<00:35:00.200> in<00:35:00.360> justifying<00:35:00.960> it,<00:35:01.080> so<00:35:01.200> I think this way in in justifying it, so I think this way in in justifying it, so I I<00:35:01.520> echo<00:35:01.800> Mike.<00:35:02.080> I<00:35:02.160> think<00:35:02.600> I'm<00:35:02.720> thankful<00:35:03.120> for I echo Mike. I think I’m thankful for I echo Mike. I think I’m thankful for this<00:35:03.800> analysis. this analysis. this analysis. But<00:35:05.600> I<00:35:05.640> also<00:35:06.280> share<00:35:06.640> Mike's<00:35:06.920> concern,<00:35:07.360> too, But I also share Mike’s concern, too, But I also share Mike’s concern, too, where,<00:35:08.480> you<00:35:08.560> know,<00:35:08.720> oh,<00:35:08.840> it's<00:35:09.160> a<00:35:09.200> couple where, you know, oh, it’s a couple where, you know, oh, it’s a couple hundred<00:35:09.779> [snorts]<00:35:09.800> thousand<00:35:10.200> on<00:35:10.240> the<00:35:10.360> 663. hundred [snorts] thousand on the 663. hundred [snorts] thousand on the 663. That’s<00:35:11.800> That's<00:35:12.000> people<00:35:12.400> that's<00:35:12.600> bodies. That’s That’s people that’s bodies. That’s That’s people that’s bodies. That’s<00:35:13.320> That's<00:35:13.640> five<00:35:13.920> people<00:35:14.200> that's<00:35:14.920> So, That’s That’s five people that’s So, That’s That’s five people that’s So, yeah,<00:35:15.800> so<00:35:15.920> I<00:35:16.000> have<00:35:16.200> to<00:35:16.280> notify<00:35:16.760> people<00:35:17.000> they yeah, so I have to notify people they yeah, so I have to notify people they don’t<00:35:17.240> have<00:35:17.320> a<00:35:17.400> job<00:35:17.800> and<00:35:17.920> then,<00:35:18.120> oh,<00:35:18.240> by<00:35:18.400> the don’t have a job and then, oh, by the don’t have a job and then, oh, by the way,<00:35:18.720> well,<00:35:19.120> the<00:35:19.240> number<00:35:19.920> it<00:35:20.120> looks<00:35:20.320> different way, well, the number it looks different way, well, the number it looks different now,<00:35:20.640> so<00:35:20.720> never<00:35:20.960> mind.<00:35:21.880> Uh<00:35:21.960> you<00:35:22.080> know,<00:35:22.360> I<00:35:22.520> I've now, so never mind. Uh you know, I I’ve now, so never mind. Uh you know, I I’ve got<00:35:22.800> to<00:35:22.880> have<00:35:23.240> like<00:35:23.360> that<00:35:23.600> I<00:35:23.680> cannot<00:35:24.240> I<00:35:24.360> won't got to have like that I cannot I won’t got to have like that I cannot I won’t approve<00:35:24.760> it.<00:35:25.080> And<00:35:25.160> we're<00:35:25.280> experiencing<00:35:25.760> the approve it. And we’re experiencing the approve it. And we’re experiencing the same<00:35:26.080> thing<00:35:26.640> on<00:35:26.720> the<00:35:26.800> budget.<00:35:27.480> I'm<00:35:27.640> saying same thing on the budget. I’m saying same thing on the budget. I’m saying that<00:35:27.960> we<00:35:28.080> agree<00:35:28.440> with<00:35:28.600> that<00:35:28.920> and<00:35:29.000> we<00:35:29.120> need<00:35:29.280> to

35:29 that we agree with that and we need to that we agree with that and we need to tighten<00:35:29.680> this<00:35:29.840> up.<00:35:30.080> Yes.<00:35:31.080> Yeah,<00:35:31.280> and tighten this up. Yes. Yeah, and tighten this up. Yes. Yeah, and and<00:35:32.680> just<00:35:32.960> on<00:35:33.280> on<00:35:33.520> the and just on on the and just on on the I<00:35:34.720> just<00:35:34.920> think<00:35:35.080> it's<00:35:35.200> a<00:35:35.240> good<00:35:35.480> segue<00:35:36.360> um I just think it’s a good segue um I just think it’s a good segue um in<00:35:37.400> terms<00:35:37.760> of<00:35:38.120> bodies<00:35:38.600> you<00:35:38.720> mentioned. in terms of bodies you mentioned. in terms of bodies you mentioned. Um Um Um so,<00:35:41.880> this<00:35:42.160> analysis<00:35:42.920> as<00:35:43.120> I'm<00:35:43.240> showing<00:35:43.880> after so, this analysis as I’m showing after so, this analysis as I’m showing after the<00:35:44.520> reality<00:35:45.440> We<00:35:45.560> can<00:35:45.880> actually<00:35:46.120> hear<00:35:46.240> your the reality We can actually hear your the reality We can actually hear your thoughts<00:35:46.760> for<00:35:46.880> a<00:35:46.920> second.<00:35:47.920> Just<00:35:48.120> kidding. thoughts for a second. Just kidding. thoughts for a second. Just kidding. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. is<00:35:51.080> at<00:35:51.320> 4.5<00:35:52.240> million,<00:35:52.920> right?<00:35:53.520> For<00:35:53.640> the<00:35:53.760> town is at 4.5 million, right? For the town is at 4.5 million, right? For the town side. side. side. That’s<00:35:55.600> before<00:35:56.120> any<00:35:56.440> adjustments<00:35:57.000> to That’s before any adjustments to That’s before any adjustments to anything,<00:35:57.560> any<00:35:57.760> cuts. anything, any cuts. anything, any cuts. It<00:35:59.240> was<00:35:59.400> at<00:35:59.640> six<00:36:00.040> before<00:36:00.480> cuz<00:36:00.640> we<00:36:00.720> just<00:36:00.960> shifted It was at six before cuz we just shifted It was at six before cuz we just shifted 1.5<00:36:02.040> over<00:36:02.480> before<00:36:02.640> we<00:36:02.760> got<00:36:03.040> there.<00:36:03.240> So,<00:36:03.360> that's 1.5 over before we got there. So, that’s 1.5 over before we got there. So, that’s net<00:36:03.920> of<00:36:04.080> the<00:36:04.200> 1.5. net of the 1.5. net of the 1.5. Um<00:36:06.240> I've<00:36:06.400> been<00:36:06.600> sitting<00:36:07.040> and<00:36:07.240> following<00:36:07.800> along Um I’ve been sitting and following along Um I’ve been sitting and following along what<00:36:09.000> you<00:36:09.400> and<00:36:09.560> Alicia<00:36:10.080> and<00:36:10.240> Thatcher<00:36:11.000> Alicia what you and Alicia and Thatcher Alicia what you and Alicia and Thatcher Alicia and<00:36:11.440> Thatcher<00:36:11.840> have<00:36:12.040> been<00:36:12.200> proposing<00:36:12.880> and<00:36:13.000> you and Thatcher have been proposing and you and Thatcher have been proposing and you guys<00:36:13.360> have<00:36:13.440> been<00:36:13.680> going<00:36:14.000> back.

36:15 guys have been going back. guys have been going back. There’s<00:36:15.600> about<00:36:15.840> a<00:36:15.880> million<00:36:16.320> dollars<00:36:16.800> of<00:36:16.960> cuts, There’s about a million dollars of cuts, There’s about a million dollars of cuts, adjustments,<00:36:18.520> and<00:36:18.800> cuts<00:36:19.120> on<00:36:19.240> the<00:36:19.320> town<00:36:19.640> side adjustments, and cuts on the town side adjustments, and cuts on the town side that<00:36:20.200> that<00:36:20.360> have<00:36:20.520> happened<00:36:21.000> between<00:36:21.360> state<00:36:21.640> of that that have happened between state of that that have happened between state of the<00:36:21.800> town<00:36:22.120> and<00:36:22.240> now<00:36:23.000> that<00:36:23.120> are<00:36:23.200> really<00:36:23.400> just the town and now that are really just the town and now that are really just adjustments<00:36:24.240> to<00:36:24.320> the<00:36:24.440> health<00:36:24.680> insurance<00:36:25.200> is adjustments to the health insurance is adjustments to the health insurance is the<00:36:25.440> largest<00:36:25.880> piece,<00:36:26.240> adjustments<00:36:26.880> to<00:36:27.000> that the largest piece, adjustments to that the largest piece, adjustments to that reimbursements<00:36:28.800> to<00:36:28.920> retirees<00:36:29.680> line,<00:36:30.360> a reimbursements to retirees line, a reimbursements to retirees line, a couple<00:36:30.800> changes<00:36:31.480> through<00:36:31.720> department couple changes through department couple changes through department meetings<00:36:32.760> when<00:36:32.880> they<00:36:33.000> were<00:36:33.120> finalizing. meetings when they were finalizing. meetings when they were finalizing. So, So, So, before<00:36:36.480> the<00:36:37.200> ask<00:36:37.680> of<00:36:37.760> the<00:36:37.880> schools<00:36:38.360> to<00:36:38.480> come before the ask of the schools to come before the ask of the schools to come 1.5<00:36:39.640> million<00:36:40.360> below<00:36:40.800> last<00:36:41.200> year,<00:36:41.880> the<00:36:42.040> town 1.5 million below last year, the town 1.5 million below last year, the town was<00:36:42.560> short<00:36:43.040> $5<00:36:43.800> million<00:36:44.520> on<00:36:44.680> their<00:36:44.880> side, was short $5 million on their side, was short $5 million on their side, right?<00:36:46.200> And<00:36:46.320> we're<00:36:46.440> looking<00:36:46.800> at<00:36:47.160> what<00:36:47.320> are<00:36:47.360> we right? And we’re looking at what are we right? And we’re looking at what are we looking<00:36:47.800> at?<00:36:48.000> A<00:36:48.320> a<00:36:48.480> 39<00:36:49.360> a<00:36:49.440> $40<00:36:50.040> million<00:36:50.320> budget, looking at? A a 39 a $40 million budget, looking at? A a 39 a $40 million budget, ish,<00:36:51.200> right?<00:36:52.040> Um<00:36:52.640> I'm<00:36:52.760> sorry,<00:36:53.000> $35.5<00:36:54.000> million ish, right? Um I’m sorry, $35.5 million ish, right? Um I’m sorry, $35.5 million budget<00:36:55.040> if<00:36:55.240> you're<00:36:55.400> splitting<00:36:55.760> it<00:36:55.880> the<00:36:56.240> the budget if you’re splitting it the the budget if you’re splitting it the the 3760. 3760. 3760. So,<00:36:58.360> 5<00:36:58.720> million<00:36:59.120> over<00:36:59.360> that<00:36:59.680> is<00:36:59.800> a<00:36:59.840> lot<00:37:00.360> larger

37:00 So, 5 million over that is a lot larger So, 5 million over that is a lot larger of<00:37:01.080> a<00:37:01.160> percentage<00:37:01.800> on<00:37:01.920> the<00:37:01.960> town<00:37:02.280> side.<00:37:03.080> And of a percentage on the town side. And of a percentage on the town side. And and<00:37:03.560> I'll<00:37:03.680> take<00:37:03.840> the<00:37:03.960> opportunity<00:37:05.200> to<00:37:05.320> speak and I’ll take the opportunity to speak and I’ll take the opportunity to speak here<00:37:05.920> because<00:37:06.240> I'll<00:37:06.440> I'll<00:37:06.520> speak<00:37:06.760> again here because I’ll I’ll speak again here because I’ll I’ll speak again Monday<00:37:07.360> at<00:37:07.480> my<00:37:07.680> meeting,<00:37:08.000> but<00:37:08.120> I've<00:37:08.240> been Monday at my meeting, but I’ve been Monday at my meeting, but I’ve been waiting<00:37:08.680> for<00:37:08.840> your<00:37:09.040> meetings<00:37:09.440> to<00:37:09.600> have<00:37:09.960> go waiting for your meetings to have go waiting for your meetings to have go before<00:37:10.520> I've<00:37:10.600> had<00:37:10.760> a<00:37:10.800> chance<00:37:11.080> to<00:37:11.200> talk.<00:37:11.920> I've before I’ve had a chance to talk. I’ve before I’ve had a chance to talk. I’ve I’ve<00:37:12.440> heard<00:37:12.760> people<00:37:13.160> asking<00:37:13.600> about<00:37:14.360> whether I’ve heard people asking about whether I’ve heard people asking about whether these<00:37:14.920> cuts<00:37:15.240> are<00:37:15.400> real<00:37:15.840> that<00:37:16.040> Thatcher's these cuts are real that Thatcher’s these cuts are real that Thatcher’s talking<00:37:16.880> about<00:37:17.360> at<00:37:17.760> at<00:37:17.920> his<00:37:18.080> most<00:37:18.360> recent talking about at at his most recent talking about at at his most recent meeting.<00:37:19.560> Um meeting. Um meeting. Um what<00:37:20.680> I<00:37:20.760> can<00:37:20.920> say<00:37:21.200> is<00:37:21.360> that<00:37:21.600> I've<00:37:21.800> looked<00:37:22.080> at what I can say is that I’ve looked at what I can say is that I’ve looked at the<00:37:22.320> cuts<00:37:23.000> before<00:37:23.600> in<00:37:23.800> all<00:37:24.000> three<00:37:24.240> scenarios, the cuts before in all three scenarios, the cuts before in all three scenarios, before<00:37:25.840> the<00:37:26.000> 1.5<00:37:26.720> million<00:37:27.360> ask<00:37:27.680> of<00:37:27.760> the before the 1.5 million ask of the before the 1.5 million ask of the schools<00:37:28.240> below<00:37:28.520> level<00:37:28.840> last<00:37:29.240> year,<00:37:29.760> and schools below level last year, and schools below level last year, and before<00:37:30.280> the<00:37:30.400> trash<00:37:30.800> fee<00:37:30.920> that<00:37:31.080> I<00:37:31.120> think<00:37:31.360> you before the trash fee that I think you before the trash fee that I think you guys<00:37:31.680> were<00:37:32.160> were<00:37:32.280> talking<00:37:32.560> about<00:37:32.760> last<00:37:33.040> night. guys were were talking about last night. guys were were talking about last night. That<00:37:34.120> $5<00:37:34.840> million<00:37:35.120> gap<00:37:35.760> would<00:37:35.880> have<00:37:36.040> resulted That $5 million gap would have resulted That $5 million gap would have resulted in<00:37:36.840> between<00:37:37.240> 50<00:37:37.600> and<00:37:37.760> 60<00:37:38.080> employees<00:37:38.600> in in between 50 and 60 employees in in between 50 and 60 employees in Townsend.<00:37:39.640> So,<00:37:40.480> ju-<00:37:40.680> just<00:37:40.960> to<00:37:41.040> put<00:37:41.200> it<00:37:41.320> into Townsend. So, ju- just to put it into Townsend. So, ju- just to put it into perspective,<00:37:42.200> right? perspective, right? perspective, right? If<00:37:43.640> if<00:37:43.800> the<00:37:43.920> schools<00:37:44.480> were<00:37:44.640> level<00:37:45.080> funded<00:37:45.520> to If if the schools were level funded to If if the schools were level funded to last<00:37:46.080> year,<00:37:46.640> how<00:37:46.840> many<00:37:47.080> positions<00:37:47.760> would<00:37:47.960> you

37:48 last year, how many positions would you last year, how many positions would you have<00:37:48.320> cut<00:37:48.800> in<00:37:48.960> that<00:37:49.200> scenario? have cut in that scenario? have cut in that scenario? That’s<00:37:51.760> our<00:37:51.920> proposed<00:37:52.400> budget,<00:37:52.760> Alex.<00:37:53.600> 3.75 That’s our proposed budget, Alex. 3.75 That’s our proposed budget, Alex. 3.75 each.<00:37:55.880> So,<00:37:56.240> so<00:37:56.440> if<00:37:56.600> that's<00:37:56.960> the<00:37:57.080> way<00:37:57.280> it each. So, so if that’s the way it each. So, so if that’s the way it stayed,<00:37:57.840> the<00:37:57.960> town<00:37:58.760> would<00:37:58.920> have<00:37:59.200> 55<00:38:00.000> positions stayed, the town would have 55 positions stayed, the town would have 55 positions on<00:38:00.680> the<00:38:00.760> line. on the line. on the line. To<00:38:02.080> a<00:38:02.160> lot<00:38:02.560> lesser<00:38:03.160> number<00:38:03.440> of<00:38:03.560> employees To a lot lesser number of employees To a lot lesser number of employees total<00:38:04.480> to<00:38:04.640> the<00:38:04.720> schools. total to the schools. total to the schools. » I<00:38:05.680> think<00:38:05.840> the<00:38:05.960> analysis<00:38:06.640> that<00:38:06.960> is » I think the analysis that is » I think the analysis that is slightly<00:38:08.640> different<00:38:08.960> than<00:38:09.400> that<00:38:09.520> one,<00:38:09.640> too. slightly different than that one, too. slightly different than that one, too. So,<00:38:10.360> yeah,<00:38:10.560> I<00:38:10.600> mean,<00:38:10.880> that's So, yeah, I mean, that’s So, yeah, I mean, that’s it’s<00:38:12.360> not it’s not it’s not » Alex. » Alex. » Alex. Alex,<00:38:14.120> can<00:38:14.240> I<00:38:14.320> ask<00:38:14.520> a<00:38:14.560> question?<00:38:15.560> Yeah.<00:38:16.360> So, Alex, can I ask a question? Yeah. So, Alex, can I ask a question? Yeah. So, out<00:38:16.800> of<00:38:16.880> the<00:38:17.120> four,<00:38:17.840> these<00:38:18.040> numbers<00:38:18.400> are out of the four, these numbers are out of the four, these numbers are bouncing<00:38:18.840> around,<00:38:19.320> four<00:38:19.560> and<00:38:19.680> a<00:38:19.720> half,<00:38:20.040> 5 bouncing around, four and a half, 5 bouncing around, four and a half, 5 million,<00:38:20.600> whatever<00:38:20.960> it<00:38:21.080> is,<00:38:21.320> under<00:38:21.640> the<00:38:21.760> net million, whatever it is, under the net million, whatever it is, under the net deficit.<00:38:23.120> So,<00:38:23.960> from<00:38:24.160> what<00:38:24.320> I deficit. So, from what I deficit. So, from what I No.<00:38:25.920> Can<00:38:26.080> you<00:38:26.680> tell<00:38:26.920> me<00:38:27.160> whether<00:38:27.440> that<00:38:27.760> number No. Can you tell me whether that number No. Can you tell me whether that number includes includes includes the<00:38:30.200> trash<00:38:30.560> fee? the trash fee? the trash fee? Not<00:38:32.320> yet.

38:33 Not yet. Not yet. Does<00:38:33.880> not Does not Does not » that » that » that So,<00:38:35.360> that<00:38:35.600> means<00:38:35.920> that<00:38:36.320> you<00:38:36.680> are<00:38:37.040> taking<00:38:37.800> This So, that means that you are taking This So, that means that you are taking This is<00:38:38.120> where<00:38:38.320> I<00:38:38.400> also<00:38:39.400> am<00:38:40.120> having<00:38:40.480> some<00:38:40.680> struggle is where I also am having some struggle is where I also am having some struggle understanding.<00:38:42.200> Because<00:38:43.240> if<00:38:43.480> the<00:38:43.680> trash<00:38:44.280> fee understanding. Because if the trash fee understanding. Because if the trash fee is<00:38:44.600> being<00:38:44.840> taken<00:38:45.280> out<00:38:45.520> of<00:38:45.640> the<00:38:45.760> town<00:38:46.120> side<00:38:46.360> of is being taken out of the town side of is being taken out of the town side of government,<00:38:46.920> but<00:38:47.040> it's<00:38:47.240> being<00:38:47.760> reallocated government, but it’s being reallocated government, but it’s being reallocated under<00:38:49.520> a<00:38:49.960> fee<00:38:50.840> being<00:38:51.360> charged<00:38:51.520> to<00:38:51.600> the<00:38:51.960> to<00:38:52.080> the under a fee being charged to the to the under a fee being charged to the to the um um um homeowners. homeowners. homeowners. Um<00:38:56.240> that's<00:38:56.520> not<00:38:56.760> a<00:38:56.800> cut. Um that’s not a cut. Um that’s not a cut. That’s<00:38:59.040> not<00:38:59.160> a<00:38:59.200> deficit.<00:38:59.880> I<00:38:59.920> mean,<00:39:00.040> it's That’s not a deficit. I mean, it’s That’s not a deficit. I mean, it’s 3<00:39:00.840> and<00:39:00.960> 1/2<00:39:01.240> Well,<00:39:01.360> hang<00:39:01.520> on.<00:39:02.160> 3<00:39:02.560> or<00:39:02.920> whatever 3 and 1/2 Well, hang on. 3 or whatever 3 and 1/2 Well, hang on. 3 or whatever it<00:39:03.240> is,<00:39:03.560> 2.5<00:39:04.320> I<00:39:04.360> don't<00:39:04.480> know<00:39:04.520> what<00:39:04.640> the<00:39:04.680> number it is, 2.5 I don’t know what the number it is, 2.5 I don’t know what the number is,<00:39:04.960> 2.5<00:39:05.480> 2.8<00:39:05.840> million<00:39:06.000> dollars is, 2.5 2.8 million dollars is, 2.5 2.8 million dollars is<00:39:08.240> not<00:39:08.440> a<00:39:08.480> deficit.<00:39:08.800> That's<00:39:09.000> being<00:39:09.200> covered is not a deficit. That’s being covered is not a deficit. That’s being covered by<00:39:09.760> another<00:39:10.440> revenue<00:39:10.800> source. by another revenue source. by another revenue source. » so<00:39:11.680> I<00:39:11.760> can<00:39:12.000> I<00:39:12.080> can<00:39:12.280> kind<00:39:12.480> of<00:39:12.840> walk<00:39:13.160> through<00:39:13.360> this » so I can I can kind of walk through this » so I can I can kind of walk through this if<00:39:13.720> you'd<00:39:13.880> like.<00:39:14.320> And<00:39:14.600> And<00:39:14.760> by<00:39:14.920> the<00:39:15.040> way,<00:39:15.240> the if you’d like. And And by the way, the if you’d like. And And by the way, the the<00:39:15.600> trash<00:39:15.960> fee<00:39:16.160> has<00:39:16.320> not<00:39:16.600> been<00:39:17.240> discussed<00:39:17.760> by the trash fee has not been discussed by the trash fee has not been discussed by the<00:39:18.000> FinCom<00:39:18.480> at<00:39:18.640> all.<00:39:18.880> That<00:39:19.160> That<00:39:19.360> is<00:39:19.480> a<00:39:19.520> select

39:19 the FinCom at all. That That is a select the FinCom at all. That That is a select board<00:39:20.200> decision<00:39:20.760> that<00:39:21.320> we<00:39:21.480> will<00:39:21.680> react<00:39:22.160> to<00:39:22.360> on board decision that we will react to on board decision that we will react to on Monday.<00:39:22.920> So,<00:39:23.560> Cuz<00:39:23.800> what<00:39:23.920> I<00:39:24.000> like<00:39:24.160> to Monday. So, Cuz what I like to Monday. So, Cuz what I like to Hang<00:39:25.320> on<00:39:25.400> one<00:39:25.480> second,<00:39:25.800> cuz<00:39:25.960> what<00:39:26.080> I'd<00:39:26.160> like<00:39:26.400> to Hang on one second, cuz what I’d like to Hang on one second, cuz what I’d like to say,<00:39:26.680> too,<00:39:27.000> is<00:39:27.160> that<00:39:27.360> when<00:39:27.480> you<00:39:27.560> look<00:39:27.760> and say, too, is that when you look and say, too, is that when you look and you’re<00:39:28.000> looking<00:39:28.280> at<00:39:28.360> a<00:39:28.400> 3.<00:39:29.560> 2<00:39:29.800> million<00:39:30.120> dollar you’re looking at a 3. 2 million dollar you’re looking at a 3. 2 million dollar cut<00:39:30.600> on<00:39:30.680> the<00:39:30.800> town<00:39:31.040> side<00:39:31.240> and<00:39:31.360> then<00:39:31.480> inclusive cut on the town side and then inclusive cut on the town side and then inclusive of<00:39:32.160> the<00:39:32.240> 1.5.<00:39:33.480> But,<00:39:33.800> remember,<00:39:34.120> we<00:39:34.240> did<00:39:34.360> the of the 1.5. But, remember, we did the of the 1.5. But, remember, we did the same<00:39:34.640> thing,<00:39:35.440> which<00:39:35.680> we're<00:39:36.120> not<00:39:36.360> getting same thing, which we’re not getting same thing, which we’re not getting credit<00:39:36.840> for.<00:39:36.920> In<00:39:36.960> other<00:39:37.080> words,<00:39:37.240> we<00:39:37.400> moved<00:39:37.920> uh credit for. In other words, we moved uh credit for. In other words, we moved uh almost<00:39:38.920> a<00:39:38.960> million<00:39:39.240> dollars<00:39:40.440> out<00:39:40.760> of<00:39:40.880> our<00:39:41.240> of almost a million dollars out of our of almost a million dollars out of our of our<00:39:41.520> level<00:39:41.760> funded<00:39:42.080> budget<00:39:43.000> and<00:39:43.160> moved<00:39:43.400> it our level funded budget and moved it our level funded budget and moved it into<00:39:43.640> revolving<00:39:44.160> funds.<00:39:45.040> But,<00:39:45.200> we<00:39:45.280> didn't into revolving funds. But, we didn’t into revolving funds. But, we didn’t take take take That’s<00:39:46.560> not<00:39:47.280> being<00:39:47.440> counted<00:39:47.680> as<00:39:47.760> a<00:39:47.800> cut<00:39:48.120> cuz That’s not being counted as a cut cuz That’s not being counted as a cut cuz it’s<00:39:48.360> being it’s being it’s being moved<00:39:49.520> somewhere<00:39:49.760> else. moved somewhere else. moved somewhere else. » yeah.<00:39:50.800> So,<00:39:51.040> to<00:39:51.200> react<00:39:51.640> to<00:39:51.720> your<00:39:51.880> 5<00:39:52.200> million » yeah. So, to react to your 5 million » yeah. So, to react to your 5 million question,<00:39:52.880> what<00:39:53.000> I<00:39:53.040> was<00:39:53.240> saying<00:39:53.520> was question, what I was saying was question, what I was saying was if<00:39:54.760> if<00:39:54.960> the<00:39:55.080> town<00:39:55.400> had<00:39:55.560> not<00:39:55.920> asked<00:39:56.160> the<00:39:56.280> schools if if the town had not asked the schools if if the town had not asked the schools to<00:39:56.720> come<00:39:56.960> down<00:39:57.240> below<00:39:57.560> level<00:39:57.840> funds<00:39:58.160> last to come down below level funds last to come down below level funds last year,<00:39:59.200> right,<00:40:00.160> it<00:40:00.280> would<00:40:00.400> have<00:40:00.480> been<00:40:00.720> 1.5 year, right, it would have been 1.5 year, right, it would have been 1.5 million<00:40:01.880> more<00:40:02.160> than<00:40:02.280> the<00:40:02.400> number<00:40:02.720> that<00:40:02.920> I<00:40:02.960> have million more than the number that I have million more than the number that I have highlighted<00:40:03.600> in<00:40:03.640> this<00:40:03.840> analysis.<00:40:04.360> Cuz<00:40:04.480> this highlighted in this analysis. Cuz this highlighted in this analysis. Cuz this analysis

40:05 analysis analysis We’re<00:40:05.960> But,<00:40:06.080> you're<00:40:06.400> But,<00:40:06.520> you're<00:40:07.120> you<00:40:07.320> you're We’re But, you’re But, you’re you you’re We’re But, you’re But, you’re you you’re they’re<00:40:07.880> taking<00:40:08.360> out<00:40:08.960> the<00:40:09.320> trash they’re taking out the trash they’re taking out the trash contract.<00:40:11.160> Is<00:40:11.280> that contract. Is that contract. Is that » to<00:40:11.600> get<00:40:11.760> there<00:40:11.960> in<00:40:12.040> a<00:40:12.080> second.<00:40:12.600> I'm<00:40:12.680> going<00:40:12.800> to » to get there in a second. I’m going to » to get there in a second. I’m going to get<00:40:13.000> there<00:40:13.120> in<00:40:13.200> a<00:40:13.240> second. get there in a second. get there in a second. So,<00:40:14.600> what<00:40:14.760> I'm<00:40:14.880> saying<00:40:15.200> is<00:40:15.320> that<00:40:15.640> if<00:40:15.800> you<00:40:15.960> add So, what I’m saying is that if you add So, what I’m saying is that if you add that<00:40:16.520> 1.5<00:40:17.360> back<00:40:17.640> to<00:40:17.800> the<00:40:17.880> 4.5,<00:40:19.160> it<00:40:19.280> was<00:40:19.400> a<00:40:19.440> $6 that 1.5 back to the 4.5, it was a $6 that 1.5 back to the 4.5, it was a $6 million<00:40:20.120> deficit<00:40:20.920> based<00:40:21.240> on<00:40:21.440> what<00:40:21.640> was<00:40:21.880> in million deficit based on what was in million deficit based on what was in Munis<00:40:23.240> as<00:40:23.480> of<00:40:23.600> the<00:40:23.720> state<00:40:23.960> of<00:40:24.040> the<00:40:24.120> town. Munis as of the state of the town. Munis as of the state of the town. They’ve<00:40:25.640> adjusted<00:40:26.360> budgets<00:40:26.840> since<00:40:27.120> then They’ve adjusted budgets since then They’ve adjusted budgets since then including<00:40:28.000> reducing<00:40:28.600> the<00:40:28.720> health<00:40:29.000> insurance including reducing the health insurance including reducing the health insurance estimate<00:40:30.640> by<00:40:30.760> about<00:40:31.000> a<00:40:31.040> million<00:40:31.480> dollars, estimate by about a million dollars, estimate by about a million dollars, right?<00:40:33.040> That<00:40:33.360> left<00:40:33.680> it<00:40:33.800> at<00:40:34.120> 5<00:40:34.560> million,<00:40:35.080> right? right? That left it at 5 million, right? right? That left it at 5 million, right? If<00:40:35.440> you<00:40:35.600> add<00:40:36.000> 1.5<00:40:36.640> million<00:40:36.880> to<00:40:37.000> 4.5<00:40:37.600> million, If you add 1.5 million to 4.5 million, If you add 1.5 million to 4.5 million, that’s<00:40:38.120> six,<00:40:38.440> and<00:40:38.520> then<00:40:38.640> they've<00:40:38.800> made<00:40:39.040> budget that’s six, and then they’ve made budget that’s six, and then they’ve made budget adjustments<00:40:39.880> since<00:40:40.120> then<00:40:40.760> of<00:40:40.960> five.<00:40:41.280> This<00:40:41.440> is adjustments since then of five. This is adjustments since then of five. This is before<00:40:42.200> any<00:40:42.800> ask<00:40:43.120> of<00:40:43.240> the<00:40:43.320> schools<00:40:43.800> below before any ask of the schools below before any ask of the schools below level<00:40:44.400> last<00:40:44.720> year<00:40:45.200> before<00:40:45.640> any<00:40:45.800> trash<00:40:46.280> fee. level last year before any trash fee. level last year before any trash fee. That<00:40:48.080> number,<00:40:48.680> if<00:40:48.960> they<00:40:49.160> were<00:40:49.360> to<00:40:49.600> go<00:40:49.840> through That number, if they were to go through That number, if they were to go through with<00:40:50.280> that<00:40:50.600> and<00:40:50.760> stop<00:40:51.200> there,<00:40:51.640> no<00:40:51.840> trash<00:40:52.200> fee,

40:52 with that and stop there, no trash fee, with that and stop there, no trash fee, no<00:40:53.040> ask<00:40:53.320> of<00:40:53.400> the<00:40:53.480> schools<00:40:53.760> below<00:40:54.040> level,<00:40:54.880> I<00:40:55.040> can no ask of the schools below level, I can no ask of the schools below level, I can assure<00:40:55.840> you<00:40:56.000> that<00:40:56.200> I've<00:40:56.320> seen<00:40:56.560> a<00:40:56.600> list<00:40:57.000> that assure you that I’ve seen a list that assure you that I’ve seen a list that has<00:40:57.400> 55 has 55 has 55 employees<00:40:59.760> cut<00:41:00.080> on<00:41:00.200> the<00:41:00.280> town<00:41:00.560> side. employees cut on the town side. employees cut on the town side. From<00:41:02.120> there,<00:41:03.080> the<00:41:03.160> way<00:41:03.320> that<00:41:03.520> Thatcher From there, the way that Thatcher From there, the way that Thatcher presented<00:41:04.480> I'm<00:41:04.760> I'm<00:41:05.040> also<00:41:05.400> a<00:41:05.440> citizen presented I’m I’m also a citizen presented I’m I’m also a citizen watching<00:41:06.360> Thatcher<00:41:06.760> present<00:41:07.160> her. watching Thatcher present her. watching Thatcher present her. Right?<00:41:08.680> He<00:41:08.800> said, Right? He said, Right? He said, “1.5<00:41:10.560> million<00:41:11.000> will<00:41:11.160> be<00:41:11.280> asked<00:41:11.520> of<00:41:11.600> the “1.5 million will be asked of the “1.5 million will be asked of the schools.”<00:41:12.680> That<00:41:13.680> in<00:41:13.880> the<00:41:14.240> cuts<00:41:14.640> analysis,<00:41:15.280> if schools.” That in the cuts analysis, if schools.” That in the cuts analysis, if we’re<00:41:15.520> looking<00:41:15.800> at<00:41:15.920> three<00:41:16.160> columns,<00:41:17.120> restored we’re looking at three columns, restored we’re looking at three columns, restored about<00:41:18.040> 15<00:41:18.560> to<00:41:18.680> 20<00:41:19.000> positions.<00:41:20.120> So,<00:41:20.400> before<00:41:20.880> any about 15 to 20 positions. So, before any about 15 to 20 positions. So, before any trash<00:41:21.560> fee,<00:41:22.280> after<00:41:22.800> asking<00:41:23.200> the<00:41:23.280> schools trash fee, after asking the schools trash fee, after asking the schools based<00:41:24.200> on<00:41:24.800> a<00:41:24.920> pretty<00:41:25.560> level<00:41:25.920> analysis<00:41:26.520> that<00:41:26.680> we based on a pretty level analysis that we based on a pretty level analysis that we we<00:41:27.080> think<00:41:27.280> is<00:41:27.640> as<00:41:27.800> long<00:41:27.960> as<00:41:28.040> the<00:41:28.160> inputs<00:41:28.600> in, we think is as long as the inputs in, we think is as long as the inputs in, like<00:41:29.040> we<00:41:29.160> said,<00:41:29.920> is<00:41:30.200> pretty<00:41:30.480> economically like we said, is pretty economically like we said, is pretty economically sound, sound, sound, we’re<00:41:32.800> still<00:41:33.160> at<00:41:33.400> a<00:41:33.440> $3.5<00:41:34.240> million<00:41:34.480> deficit<00:41:35.120> on we’re still at a $3.5 million deficit on we’re still at a $3.5 million deficit on town<00:41:35.520> side.<00:41:36.240> I<00:41:36.360> have<00:41:36.600> seen<00:41:37.000> a<00:41:37.120> list<00:41:37.640> of<00:41:37.840> the

41:37 town side. I have seen a list of the town side. I have seen a list of the $3.5<00:41:38.720> million<00:41:38.920> cuts<00:41:39.400> before<00:41:39.800> we<00:41:39.920> talk<00:41:40.120> about $3.5 million cuts before we talk about $3.5 million cuts before we talk about trash<00:41:40.680> fee,<00:41:40.880> which<00:41:41.560> isn't<00:41:41.840> necessarily<00:41:42.400> a trash fee, which isn’t necessarily a trash fee, which isn’t necessarily a conversation<00:41:43.120> for<00:41:43.240> the<00:41:43.320> school<00:41:43.640> committee conversation for the school committee conversation for the school committee meeting,<00:41:44.840> but<00:41:45.080> that's<00:41:45.520> 40<00:41:45.960> positions<00:41:46.560> on<00:41:46.680> the meeting, but that’s 40 positions on the meeting, but that’s 40 positions on the town<00:41:47.080> side<00:41:47.360> before<00:41:47.880> they<00:41:48.040> consider<00:41:48.440> the<00:41:48.560> trash town side before they consider the trash town side before they consider the trash fee,<00:41:49.400> okay?<00:41:50.120> And<00:41:50.240> I<00:41:50.280> know<00:41:50.440> it's<00:41:50.560> a<00:41:51.120> But<00:41:51.240> my fee, okay? And I know it’s a But my fee, okay? And I know it’s a But my question<00:41:51.760> again,<00:41:52.040> you're<00:41:52.400> I'm<00:41:52.520> not<00:41:52.680> getting question again, you’re I’m not getting question again, you’re I’m not getting an<00:41:53.000> answer<00:41:53.240> to<00:41:53.280> my<00:41:53.400> question. an answer to my question. an answer to my question. If<00:41:55.600> the If the If the My<00:41:56.720> understanding<00:41:57.080> is<00:41:57.120> they<00:41:57.280> took<00:41:58.000> they're My understanding is they took they’re My understanding is they took they’re are<00:41:58.360> taking<00:41:58.840> the<00:41:58.960> trash<00:41:59.440> out<00:41:59.720> of<00:41:59.840> the<00:41:59.960> budget, are taking the trash out of the budget, are taking the trash out of the budget, so<00:42:00.480> it's<00:42:00.680> going<00:42:00.880> to<00:42:00.960> be<00:42:01.080> paid<00:42:01.320> for so it’s going to be paid for so it’s going to be paid for They<00:42:02.640> have<00:42:02.960> I<00:42:03.040> haven't<00:42:03.400> got<00:42:03.640> there<00:42:03.840> yet.<00:42:04.080> I They have I haven’t got there yet. I They have I haven’t got there yet. I just<00:42:04.440> said<00:42:05.200> they<00:42:05.320> have<00:42:05.480> a<00:42:05.520> $3.5<00:42:06.320> million just said they have a $3.5 million just said they have a $3.5 million deficit<00:42:07.400> before<00:42:07.840> the<00:42:07.960> trash<00:42:08.360> fee<00:42:08.880> idea<00:42:09.320> was deficit before the trash fee idea was deficit before the trash fee idea was even<00:42:09.800> thought<00:42:10.080> of. even thought of. even thought of. And<00:42:11.040> that<00:42:11.240> represents<00:42:11.800> 40<00:42:12.120> positions.<00:42:12.880> Does And that represents 40 positions. Does And that represents 40 positions. Does that<00:42:13.160> make<00:42:13.280> sense? that make sense? that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. » If<00:42:15.560> they<00:42:15.680> didn't<00:42:15.920> use<00:42:16.120> the<00:42:16.200> trash<00:42:16.560> fee<00:42:17.040> to » If they didn’t use the trash fee to » If they didn’t use the trash fee to cover cover cover to<00:42:18.640> cover<00:42:19.000> the<00:42:19.120> 3.5<00:42:19.800> million<00:42:20.040> dollar<00:42:20.320> deficit to cover the 3.5 million dollar deficit to cover the 3.5 million dollar deficit they<00:42:21.720> would<00:42:21.840> have<00:42:21.960> had<00:42:22.160> to<00:42:22.240> cut<00:42:22.520> 40<00:42:22.840> positions.

42:24 they would have had to cut 40 positions. they would have had to cut 40 positions. Okay. Okay. Okay. » And<00:42:24.400> then<00:42:24.600> that<00:42:24.880> created<00:42:25.320> a<00:42:25.560> decision<00:42:26.120> point » And then that created a decision point » And then that created a decision point for<00:42:26.800> the<00:42:26.920> select<00:42:27.280> board<00:42:27.560> which<00:42:27.800> I'm<00:42:28.040> watching for the select board which I’m watching for the select board which I’m watching as<00:42:28.560> a<00:42:28.920> as<00:42:29.080> a<00:42:29.120> citizen as a as a citizen as a as a citizen that<00:42:30.920> they<00:42:31.120> had<00:42:31.280> to<00:42:31.360> make<00:42:31.520> a<00:42:31.560> decision<00:42:32.720> do<00:42:32.800> they that they had to make a decision do they that they had to make a decision do they want<00:42:33.160> to<00:42:33.240> risk want to risk want to risk cutting<00:42:34.920> 40<00:42:35.240> positions<00:42:35.800> which<00:42:35.960> is<00:42:36.080> 22% cutting 40 positions which is 22% cutting 40 positions which is 22% of<00:42:38.200> town<00:42:38.560> side<00:42:38.880> government<00:42:39.400> covered<00:42:39.760> by<00:42:39.960> the of town side government covered by the of town side government covered by the general<00:42:40.400> fund.<00:42:40.640> That<00:42:41.280> that<00:42:41.520> is<00:42:41.680> a<00:42:41.760> very<00:42:42.240> large general fund. That that is a very large general fund. That that is a very large amount<00:42:43.280> and<00:42:43.400> that<00:42:43.600> would<00:42:43.720> include<00:42:44.800> um amount and that would include um amount and that would include um I<00:42:46.760> mean<00:42:47.120> the<00:42:47.360> way<00:42:47.520> this<00:42:47.760> works<00:42:48.320> the<00:42:48.480> original I mean the way this works the original I mean the way this works the original 55<00:42:49.600> to<00:42:49.720> 60<00:42:50.320> as<00:42:50.640> reported<00:42:51.240> was<00:42:51.880> and<00:42:52.120> I<00:42:52.480> confirm 55 to 60 as reported was and I confirm 55 to 60 as reported was and I confirm this<00:42:53.160> myself<00:42:53.720> a<00:42:53.800> full<00:42:54.080> shutdown<00:42:54.520> of<00:42:54.600> the this myself a full shutdown of the this myself a full shutdown of the library,<00:42:55.680> full<00:42:55.920> shutdown<00:42:56.360> of<00:42:56.440> COA,<00:42:57.440> full library, full shutdown of COA, full library, full shutdown of COA, full shutdown<00:42:58.040> of<00:42:58.080> the<00:42:58.160> wreck<00:42:58.360> and<00:42:58.480> park, shutdown of the wreck and park, shutdown of the wreck and park, cemetery,<00:43:00.040> chief cemetery, chief cemetery, chief chief<00:43:01.680> procurement<00:43:02.280> officer,<00:43:02.760> two<00:43:03.000> police chief procurement officer, two police chief procurement officer, two police officers,<00:43:04.240> three<00:43:04.480> members<00:43:04.880> of<00:43:05.000> community officers, three members of community officers, three members of community planning<00:43:05.720> and<00:43:05.800> development,<00:43:06.320> assessor planning and development, assessor planning and development, assessor senior<00:43:07.120> clerk,<00:43:07.760> two<00:43:08.000> custodians,<00:43:08.720> six<00:43:09.000> to

43:09 senior clerk, two custodians, six to senior clerk, two custodians, six to eight<00:43:09.320> public<00:43:09.640> works<00:43:09.920> and<00:43:10.000> facilities. eight public works and facilities. eight public works and facilities. That<00:43:11.440> was<00:43:11.600> the<00:43:11.680> starting. That was the starting. That was the starting. After<00:43:13.920> asking<00:43:14.240> the<00:43:14.320> schools<00:43:14.800> for<00:43:14.920> this After asking the schools for this After asking the schools for this analysis<00:43:15.600> to<00:43:15.680> come<00:43:15.920> down,<00:43:16.640> like<00:43:16.840> I<00:43:16.920> said<00:43:17.120> they analysis to come down, like I said they analysis to come down, like I said they restored<00:43:17.760> about<00:43:18.080> 15<00:43:18.600> of<00:43:18.720> those,<00:43:19.280> right? restored about 15 of those, right? restored about 15 of those, right? Through<00:43:20.000> the<00:43:20.120> process,<00:43:20.920> right?<00:43:21.680> That Through the process, right? That Through the process, right? That restored<00:43:22.320> the<00:43:22.440> town<00:43:22.840> planner<00:43:23.240> and<00:43:23.360> the restored the town planner and the restored the town planner and the conservation<00:43:24.160> agent<00:43:24.840> and<00:43:24.960> about<00:43:25.240> 15<00:43:25.800> public conservation agent and about 15 public conservation agent and about 15 public works<00:43:26.400> and<00:43:26.520> facilities. works and facilities. works and facilities. Everything<00:43:28.120> else<00:43:28.320> I<00:43:28.400> said<00:43:28.600> before<00:43:28.920> that<00:43:29.520> is Everything else I said before that is Everything else I said before that is still<00:43:29.960> out. still out. still out. I<00:43:31.240> haven't<00:43:31.840> deliberated<00:43:32.480> on<00:43:32.560> the<00:43:32.640> trash<00:43:33.000> fee I haven’t deliberated on the trash fee I haven’t deliberated on the trash fee yet.<00:43:33.600> It<00:43:33.720> sounds<00:43:34.000> like<00:43:34.160> you<00:43:34.320> all<00:43:34.480> did<00:43:34.680> last yet. It sounds like you all did last yet. It sounds like you all did last night. night. night. Um Um Um that<00:43:37.080> I<00:43:37.160> believe<00:43:37.520> restored<00:43:37.920> about<00:43:38.200> half<00:43:38.480> of that I believe restored about half of that I believe restored about half of those<00:43:38.840> 40<00:43:39.080> positions.<00:43:40.240> So<00:43:40.400> still<00:43:40.840> there's<00:43:41.080> 20 those 40 positions. So still there’s 20 those 40 positions. So still there’s 20 positions<00:43:41.840> which<00:43:41.960> is<00:43:42.040> about<00:43:42.600> 10%<00:43:43.520> of<00:43:43.640> the<00:43:43.760> town positions which is about 10% of the town positions which is about 10% of the town side<00:43:44.360> budget<00:43:45.080> that<00:43:45.240> are<00:43:45.360> being<00:43:45.720> cut side budget that are being cut side budget that are being cut even<00:43:47.160> if<00:43:47.280> they<00:43:47.440> do<00:43:47.640> implement<00:43:48.080> the<00:43:48.120> trash<00:43:48.480> fee. even if they do implement the trash fee. even if they do implement the trash fee. Um<00:43:49.520> that's<00:43:49.720> the<00:43:49.800> best<00:43:50.080> I<00:43:50.120> can<00:43:50.280> explain<00:43:50.720> it Um that’s the best I can explain it Um that’s the best I can explain it right<00:43:51.120> now,<00:43:51.320> Jim. right now, Jim. right now, Jim. If<00:43:52.520> that<00:43:52.680> makes<00:43:52.840> sense.<00:43:53.200> The<00:43:53.320> these<00:43:53.560> are<00:43:53.680> not If that makes sense. The these are not If that makes sense. The these are not scare<00:43:54.400> tactics.

43:54 scare tactics. scare tactics. » Actually,<00:43:54.680> it<00:43:54.760> doesn't.<00:43:55.720> I'm<00:43:55.880> sorry.<00:43:56.600> I<00:43:56.680> don't » Actually, it doesn’t. I’m sorry. I don’t » Actually, it doesn’t. I’m sorry. I don’t understand. understand. understand. Well,<00:43:58.560> tune<00:43:58.800> in<00:43:58.960> on<00:43:59.080> Monday<00:43:59.360> night<00:43:59.680> and<00:43:59.800> I'll Well, tune in on Monday night and I’ll Well, tune in on Monday night and I’ll show<00:44:00.160> you<00:44:00.280> a<00:44:00.360> list<00:44:00.720> of<00:44:00.880> the<00:44:01.000> three<00:44:01.240> scenarios. show you a list of the three scenarios. show you a list of the three scenarios. It’s<00:44:02.160> not<00:44:02.400> the<00:44:02.520> scenarios.<00:44:03.160> It's<00:44:03.440> I'm<00:44:03.560> just<00:44:03.880> I It’s not the scenarios. It’s I’m just I It’s not the scenarios. It’s I’m just I mean<00:44:04.520> I'm<00:44:04.680> just<00:44:04.840> looking<00:44:05.160> at<00:44:05.680> what<00:44:05.840> I<00:44:05.880> consider mean I’m just looking at what I consider mean I’m just looking at what I consider the<00:44:06.280> bottom<00:44:06.600> line<00:44:06.760> of<00:44:06.880> a<00:44:06.920> net<00:44:07.160> deficit the bottom line of a net deficit the bottom line of a net deficit and and and on<00:44:10.000> the<00:44:10.080> town<00:44:10.320> side on the town side on the town side there’s<00:44:11.840> a there’s a there’s a there<00:44:13.000> is<00:44:13.240> going<00:44:13.480> to<00:44:13.600> it<00:44:13.720> sounds<00:44:14.080> like<00:44:14.240> there there is going to it sounds like there there is going to it sounds like there is<00:44:14.600> going<00:44:14.880> to<00:44:15.000> be<00:44:15.640> an<00:44:16.080> option<00:44:16.760> that<00:44:16.920> that's is going to be an option that that’s is going to be an option that that’s coming<00:44:17.560> out<00:44:17.800> of<00:44:18.000> their<00:44:18.280> budget.<00:44:18.640> At<00:44:18.680> least coming out of their budget. At least coming out of their budget. At least that’s<00:44:19.040> what<00:44:19.720> I<00:44:19.840> understand<00:44:20.560> what<00:44:20.720> I'm that’s what I understand what I’m that’s what I understand what I’m hearing.<00:44:21.200> And<00:44:21.320> Dan,<00:44:21.800> chime<00:44:22.040> in<00:44:22.120> if<00:44:22.240> I'm<00:44:22.320> wrong. hearing. And Dan, chime in if I’m wrong. hearing. And Dan, chime in if I’m wrong. Maybe<00:44:23.240> not.<00:44:23.560> Maybe<00:44:23.800> you're<00:44:23.920> going<00:44:24.040> to<00:44:24.120> keep Maybe not. Maybe you’re going to keep Maybe not. Maybe you’re going to keep the<00:44:24.400> tra-<00:44:24.720> the<00:44:24.840> trash<00:44:25.640> contract<00:44:26.080> in<00:44:26.120> the the tra- the trash contract in the the tra- the trash contract in the budget. budget. budget. The<00:44:27.720> trash<00:44:28.040> contract<00:44:28.520> stays<00:44:28.840> in<00:44:28.920> the<00:44:29.000> budget. The trash contract stays in the budget. The trash contract stays in the budget. Okay,<00:44:31.000> and<00:44:31.120> there's<00:44:31.560> and<00:44:31.680> there's<00:44:31.840> a Okay, and there’s and there’s a Okay, and there’s and there’s a potential<00:44:32.760> potential<00:44:33.280> offset<00:44:33.840> to<00:44:33.920> that<00:44:34.400> which potential potential offset to that which potential potential offset to that which could<00:44:34.800> be could be could be forward<00:44:36.040> with<00:44:36.200> last<00:44:36.480> night<00:44:37.280> as<00:44:37.520> said<00:44:37.760> and forward with last night as said and forward with last night as said and stuck<00:44:38.240> that<00:44:38.560> there stuck that there stuck that there to<00:44:39.720> move<00:44:39.960> forward<00:44:40.640> and

44:41 to move forward and to move forward and with<00:44:41.560> the<00:44:41.680> assumption<00:44:42.160> that<00:44:42.280> the<00:44:42.400> trash<00:44:43.080> the with the assumption that the trash the with the assumption that the trash the trash<00:44:43.840> pick<00:44:44.080> up trash pick up trash pick up and<00:44:45.600> uh and uh and uh disposal<00:44:47.760> comes<00:44:48.000> out<00:44:48.080> of<00:44:48.160> the<00:44:48.240> budget.<00:44:48.840> That disposal comes out of the budget. That disposal comes out of the budget. That is<00:44:49.160> correct.<00:44:49.880> So<00:44:50.080> you<00:44:50.240> are<00:44:50.720> at<00:44:50.840> where<00:44:51.120> Alex is correct. So you are at where Alex is correct. So you are at where Alex said<00:44:51.960> at<00:44:52.160> the<00:44:52.240> bottom<00:44:52.640> line said at the bottom line said at the bottom line where<00:44:53.920> we<00:44:54.080> are<00:44:54.160> still<00:44:54.400> looking<00:44:54.680> at<00:44:54.800> cutting where we are still looking at cutting where we are still looking at cutting turning<00:44:55.800> up<00:44:56.000> on<00:44:56.160> what<00:44:56.360> you<00:44:56.520> use<00:44:56.840> as<00:44:57.120> a<00:44:57.400> a<00:44:57.920> the turning up on what you use as a a the turning up on what you use as a a the the<00:44:58.400> area<00:44:59.440> denominator<00:44:59.960> view the area denominator view the area denominator view uh<00:45:01.160> between<00:45:01.480> 10<00:45:01.680> and<00:45:01.760> 11%<00:45:02.440> of<00:45:02.560> total uh between 10 and 11% of total uh between 10 and 11% of total employees.<00:45:03.440> What's<00:45:03.720> that<00:45:03.960> number,<00:45:04.880> Alec? employees. What’s that number, Alec? employees. What’s that number, Alec? Dan. Dan. Dan. » 20<00:45:06.480> positions,<00:45:07.080> 10<00:45:07.320> to<00:45:07.440> 11%. » 20 positions, 10 to 11%. » 20 positions, 10 to 11%. » the<00:45:08.640> net<00:45:08.920> deficit<00:45:09.400> number?

45:17 It’s it’s about 1.5 million. It’s it’s about 1.5 million. So<00:45:18.120> at<00:45:18.520> so<00:45:18.680> it<00:45:18.720> would<00:45:18.840> be<00:45:18.960> 1.5<00:45:19.640> million<00:45:19.920> versus So at so it would be 1.5 million versus So at so it would be 1.5 million versus the<00:45:20.400> schools<00:45:20.720> at<00:45:20.840> 3.2<00:45:21.440> million. the schools at 3.2 million. the schools at 3.2 million. No,<00:45:23.160> that<00:45:23.360> they<00:45:23.680> also<00:45:24.120> made<00:45:24.400> cuts<00:45:24.760> that<00:45:24.960> will<00:45:25.160> I No, that they also made cuts that will I No, that they also made cuts that will I will<00:45:25.440> highlight<00:45:26.360> to<00:45:26.560> about<00:45:26.960> 1<00:45:27.200> million<00:45:27.880> that will highlight to about 1 million that will highlight to about 1 million that will<00:45:28.440> yeah,<00:45:28.880> exactly. will yeah, exactly. will yeah, exactly. » asking,<00:45:30.560> what<00:45:30.800> would<00:45:30.920> be<00:45:31.120> what<00:45:31.320> will<00:45:31.480> be<00:45:32.120> the » asking, what would be what will be the » asking, what would be what will be the projected<00:45:32.680> net<00:45:32.880> deficit<00:45:33.680> with<00:45:34.400> under<00:45:34.640> the projected net deficit with under the projected net deficit with under the assumption assumption assumption » It’s<00:45:35.720> two<00:45:35.840> and<00:45:35.920> a<00:45:35.960> half<00:45:36.120> to<00:45:36.240> three<00:45:36.520> million. » It’s two and a half to three million. » It’s two and a half to three million. The<00:45:37.040> 1.5<00:45:37.920> is<00:45:38.680> is<00:45:39.000> what<00:45:39.240> they<00:45:39.400> would<00:45:39.600> not The 1.5 is is what they would not The 1.5 is is what they would not consider<00:45:40.800> asking<00:45:41.240> back<00:45:41.520> for<00:45:41.800> at<00:45:41.920> this<00:45:42.160> point. I I still I I still » they’re<00:45:46.920> going<00:45:47.280> to<00:45:47.400> be<00:45:47.560> cuts<00:45:48.000> including » they’re going to be cuts including » they’re going to be cuts including positions<00:45:49.640> I'm<00:45:49.960> not<00:45:50.080> asking<00:45:50.280> about<00:45:50.400> cuts.<00:45:50.640> I'm positions I’m not asking about cuts. I’m positions I’m not asking about cuts. I’m just<00:45:51.040> trying<00:45:51.280> to<00:45:51.400> ask<00:45:51.720> for<00:45:51.880> what<00:45:52.120> the<00:45:52.240> net just trying to ask for what the net just trying to ask for what the net deficit<00:45:53.080> will<00:45:53.200> be<00:45:53.320> on<00:45:53.440> the<00:45:53.520> town<00:45:53.800> side<00:45:54.400> after deficit will be on the town side after deficit will be on the town side after on<00:45:55.160> the<00:45:55.280> assumption<00:45:55.680> that<00:45:55.800> that<00:45:56.000> trash<00:45:56.280> fee<00:45:56.920> is on the assumption that that trash fee is on the assumption that that trash fee is offset<00:45:57.880> that<00:45:58.040> the<00:45:58.160> trash<00:45:58.480> contract<00:45:59.200> tract offset that the trash contract tract offset that the trash contract tract expense<00:46:00.600> is<00:46:00.760> offset<00:46:01.160> by<00:46:01.280> another<00:46:01.560> revenue expense is offset by another revenue expense is offset by another revenue source.

46:02 source. source. For<00:46:03.120> this<00:46:03.360> spreadsheet,<00:46:03.960> if<00:46:04.120> you<00:46:04.240> were<00:46:04.320> to For this spreadsheet, if you were to For this spreadsheet, if you were to reduce<00:46:05.000> the<00:46:05.120> 4.5<00:46:06.240> million<00:46:06.640> by<00:46:06.840> 2<00:46:07.080> million,<00:46:07.440> it reduce the 4.5 million by 2 million, it reduce the 4.5 million by 2 million, it would<00:46:07.640> be<00:46:07.760> about<00:46:08.040> 2.5<00:46:08.720> million<00:46:09.280> dollars. would be about 2.5 million dollars. would be about 2.5 million dollars. Okay.<00:46:10.160> Versus<00:46:10.560> a<00:46:10.640> school<00:46:10.880> at<00:46:11.000> 3.2.<00:46:11.800> Okay. Okay. Versus a school at 3.2. Okay. Okay. Versus a school at 3.2. Okay. Thank<00:46:13.040> you.<00:46:13.520> That's<00:46:13.800> what Thank you. That’s what Thank you. That’s what That’s<00:46:14.800> what<00:46:14.920> I<00:46:14.960> was<00:46:15.080> saying. That’s what I was saying. That’s what I was saying. » I<00:46:15.360> thought<00:46:15.680> you<00:46:15.760> were<00:46:15.920> asking<00:46:16.240> about<00:46:16.480> the » I thought you were asking about the » I thought you were asking about the cuts,<00:46:16.920> which<00:46:17.120> I<00:46:17.280> I<00:46:17.400> think<00:46:17.640> we'll<00:46:17.800> get<00:46:18.000> into<00:46:18.240> a cuts, which I I think we’ll get into a cuts, which I I think we’ll get into a little<00:46:18.440> bit<00:46:18.600> more<00:46:18.760> later. little bit more later. little bit more later. » No,<00:46:19.080> I'm<00:46:19.200> not<00:46:19.400> asking<00:46:19.560> about<00:46:19.720> the<00:46:19.800> cuts » No, I’m not asking about the cuts » No, I’m not asking about the cuts because<00:46:20.160> I<00:46:20.240> think<00:46:20.520> at<00:46:20.640> this<00:46:20.800> point<00:46:21.080> we<00:46:21.200> should because I think at this point we should because I think at this point we should be<00:46:21.440> looking<00:46:21.800> at<00:46:22.040> the<00:46:22.160> numbers<00:46:22.600> and<00:46:22.720> then, be looking at the numbers and then, be looking at the numbers and then, you<00:46:24.000> know,<00:46:24.080> then<00:46:24.400> that's<00:46:24.720> when<00:46:24.880> you<00:46:25.040> obviously you know, then that’s when you obviously you know, then that’s when you obviously have<00:46:25.480> to<00:46:25.640> back<00:46:26.000> this<00:46:26.160> stuff<00:46:26.400> in.<00:46:26.800> But<00:46:27.000> the have to back this stuff in. But the have to back this stuff in. But the the<00:46:27.760> trash<00:46:28.240> fee<00:46:28.440> is<00:46:28.840> is<00:46:29.080> from<00:46:29.320> my<00:46:29.480> perspective, the trash fee is is from my perspective, the trash fee is is from my perspective, which<00:46:30.280> again,<00:46:30.600> it<00:46:30.720> wasn't<00:46:31.160> it's<00:46:31.360> not<00:46:31.600> FinCom's which again, it wasn’t it’s not FinCom’s which again, it wasn’t it’s not FinCom’s idea.<00:46:32.440> We're<00:46:32.600> reacting<00:46:33.200> to<00:46:33.400> it. idea. We’re reacting to it. idea. We’re reacting to it. The<00:46:34.600> deficit<00:46:35.120> was<00:46:35.280> 4.5.<00:46:36.120> The<00:46:36.240> trash<00:46:36.720> fee<00:46:37.000> is<00:46:37.200> a The deficit was 4.5. The trash fee is a The deficit was 4.5. The trash fee is a solution<00:46:38.040> to<00:46:38.240> that<00:46:38.640> that<00:46:39.200> Yeah. solution to that that Yeah. solution to that that Yeah. » our executive<00:46:40.120> body<00:46:40.560> discussed<00:46:41.120> last<00:46:41.400> night » our executive body discussed last night » our executive body discussed last night and<00:46:41.960> and<00:46:42.120> decided<00:46:42.680> to<00:46:42.800> address. and and decided to address. and and decided to address. So,<00:46:44.480> all<00:46:44.720> of<00:46:44.800> the<00:46:44.920> 4.5<00:46:45.720> million<00:46:45.960> dollar So, all of the 4.5 million dollar So, all of the 4.5 million dollar deficit,<00:46:47.160> Yeah,<00:46:47.360> but<00:46:47.480> it<00:46:47.600> offsets<00:46:47.960> the

46:47 deficit, Yeah, but it offsets the deficit, Yeah, but it offsets the deficit.<00:46:48.320> I<00:46:48.360> mean,<00:46:48.440> that's<00:46:48.560> important.<00:46:48.920> Just deficit. I mean, that’s important. Just deficit. I mean, that’s important. Just like<00:46:49.240> we<00:46:49.360> found<00:46:50.240> the<00:46:50.400> ability<00:46:50.760> to<00:46:50.840> do<00:46:50.920> that like we found the ability to do that like we found the ability to do that through<00:46:51.200> revolving<00:46:51.640> funds,<00:46:51.880> which<00:46:52.000> again, through revolving funds, which again, through revolving funds, which again, offsets<00:46:53.520> a<00:46:53.640> deficit<00:46:54.280> and<00:46:54.440> then<00:46:54.840> saves<00:46:55.120> jobs. offsets a deficit and then saves jobs. offsets a deficit and then saves jobs. So,<00:46:56.200> If<00:46:56.280> you're<00:46:56.360> going<00:46:56.480> to<00:46:56.520> talk<00:46:56.760> apples<00:46:57.120> to So, If you’re going to talk apples to So, If you’re going to talk apples to apples,<00:46:57.640> Jen,<00:46:58.120> shouldn't<00:46:58.480> you<00:46:58.560> be<00:46:58.720> looking<00:46:59.080> at apples, Jen, shouldn’t you be looking at apples, Jen, shouldn’t you be looking at our<00:46:59.960> our<00:47:00.200> deficit<00:47:01.360> after<00:47:01.720> the<00:47:01.840> trash<00:47:02.160> fee<00:47:02.320> and our our deficit after the trash fee and our our deficit after the trash fee and you<00:47:02.520> should<00:47:02.640> be<00:47:02.760> looking<00:47:03.000> at<00:47:03.080> what<00:47:03.240> your<00:47:03.400> cuts you should be looking at what your cuts you should be looking at what your cuts were<00:47:04.320> using<00:47:04.560> the<00:47:04.640> revolving<00:47:05.120> funds? were using the revolving funds? were using the revolving funds? Yes,<00:47:06.560> that's<00:47:06.760> exactly<00:47:07.160> right.<00:47:07.960> Yeah,<00:47:08.240> so<00:47:09.040> I Yes, that’s exactly right. Yeah, so I Yes, that’s exactly right. Yeah, so I think<00:47:09.440> that<00:47:09.640> if<00:47:09.760> you're<00:47:09.880> going<00:47:10.000> to<00:47:10.320> analyze think that if you’re going to analyze think that if you’re going to analyze that,<00:47:11.120> there's<00:47:11.280> a<00:47:11.320> fair<00:47:11.600> amount<00:47:11.880> coming<00:47:12.160> out that, there’s a fair amount coming out that, there’s a fair amount coming out of<00:47:12.520> revolving<00:47:13.080> funds.<00:47:13.400> You<00:47:13.480> could<00:47:13.600> look<00:47:13.800> at of revolving funds. You could look at of revolving funds. You could look at what<00:47:14.080> we're<00:47:14.200> doing<00:47:14.400> with<00:47:14.520> the<00:47:14.560> trash<00:47:14.920> fees<00:47:15.120> and what we’re doing with the trash fees and what we’re doing with the trash fees and Yeah,<00:47:15.440> but<00:47:15.880> but<00:47:16.080> our<00:47:16.240> that's<00:47:16.560> 3.2 Yeah, but but our that’s 3.2 Yeah, but but our that’s 3.2 And<00:47:19.520> that<00:47:19.760> is<00:47:19.960> actually<00:47:20.360> there's<00:47:20.600> about<00:47:21.560> Well, And that is actually there’s about Well, And that is actually there’s about Well, 325,000<00:47:23.320> that<00:47:23.440> was<00:47:24.040> from<00:47:24.280> of<00:47:24.440> the<00:47:24.560> 1.7<00:47:25.880> that 325,000 that was from of the 1.7 that 325,000 that was from of the 1.7 that was<00:47:26.200> moved was moved was moved » Yeah.<00:47:27.240> to<00:47:27.440> revolving<00:47:28.000> funds.<00:47:28.720> Right. » Yeah. to revolving funds. Right. » Yeah. to revolving funds. Right. » Right.<00:47:29.080> So,<00:47:29.280> there's<00:47:29.600> there's<00:47:29.960> some<00:47:30.240> that » Right. So, there’s there’s some that » Right. So, there’s there’s some that came<00:47:30.760> out<00:47:31.040> from<00:47:31.240> the<00:47:31.440> special<00:47:32.080> I'm<00:47:32.200> sorry, came out from the special I’m sorry, came out from the special I’m sorry, from<00:47:32.840> um<00:47:33.040> the

47:33 from um the from um the circuit<00:47:34.240> breaker.<00:47:35.000> And<00:47:35.120> then<00:47:35.240> there<00:47:35.360> was circuit breaker. And then there was circuit breaker. And then there was some,<00:47:35.880> but<00:47:36.080> you<00:47:36.160> know,<00:47:36.240> before<00:47:37.200> the<00:47:37.440> 1.7<00:47:38.560> from some, but you know, before the 1.7 from some, but you know, before the 1.7 from the<00:47:38.880> special<00:47:39.280> aid<00:47:39.680> or<00:47:39.800> special<00:47:40.120> education. the special aid or special education. the special aid or special education. And<00:47:41.840> then<00:47:42.000> the<00:47:42.080> kindergarten<00:47:42.760> tuition. And then the kindergarten tuition. And then the kindergarten tuition. Sorry,<00:47:43.560> it's<00:47:43.680> just<00:47:43.880> so<00:47:44.000> many<00:47:44.240> revolving Sorry, it’s just so many revolving Sorry, it’s just so many revolving funds.<00:47:45.320> And<00:47:46.120> so,<00:47:46.840> included<00:47:47.320> in<00:47:47.400> the<00:47:47.440> 1.7<00:47:48.040> is funds. And so, included in the 1.7 is funds. And so, included in the 1.7 is about<00:47:48.360> 325,000.<00:47:49.760> So,<00:47:50.280> you<00:47:50.400> would<00:47:50.680> say about 325,000. So, you would say about 325,000. So, you would say » Well,<00:47:51.160> no,<00:47:51.440> you<00:47:51.520> would<00:47:51.640> be<00:47:51.760> on<00:47:51.880> top<00:47:52.120> of<00:47:52.200> that, » Well, no, you would be on top of that, » Well, no, you would be on top of that, Mom. Mom. Mom. » Yes.<00:47:53.240> Yeah. » Yes. Yeah. » Yes. Yeah. » No.<00:47:53.920> Um<00:47:54.280> in » No. Um in » No. Um in » Yes.<00:47:55.200> in<00:47:55.480> the<00:47:55.600> 1.7,<00:47:56.920> there's<00:47:57.240> 325,000<00:47:58.720> that » Yes. in the 1.7, there’s 325,000 that » Yes. in the 1.7, there’s 325,000 that was<00:47:59.040> shifted<00:47:59.400> to<00:47:59.480> revolving<00:48:00.000> fund.<00:48:00.680> No,<00:48:01.040> that was shifted to revolving fund. No, that was shifted to revolving fund. No, that would<00:48:01.320> be<00:48:01.440> in<00:48:01.560> like<00:48:01.760> 2.1<00:48:02.320> million<00:48:02.640> we<00:48:02.760> shifted would be in like 2.1 million we shifted would be in like 2.1 million we shifted 300<00:48:03.400> we<00:48:03.480> had<00:48:03.600> a<00:48:03.640> net<00:48:04.000> 1.4<00:48:04.520> yeah.<00:48:05.240> Yeah. 300 we had a net 1.4 yeah. Yeah. 300 we had a net 1.4 yeah. Yeah. Yes.<00:48:07.120> No, Yes. No, Yes. No, but<00:48:07.960> it's<00:48:08.080> actually<00:48:08.360> apologize<00:48:08.840> it's but it’s actually apologize it’s but it’s actually apologize it’s 348,194.

48:17 It is in that it’s included in the 1.7 It is in that it’s included in the 1.7 million<00:48:17.880> that<00:48:18.040> is<00:48:18.200> listed<00:48:18.520> as<00:48:18.640> a<00:48:18.720> cut<00:48:19.400> and<00:48:19.560> I'm million that is listed as a cut and I’m million that is listed as a cut and I’m happy<00:48:20.160> to<00:48:20.280> walk<00:48:20.520> you<00:48:20.680> through<00:48:21.560> each<00:48:21.800> line. happy to walk you through each line. happy to walk you through each line. » so<00:48:23.080> we<00:48:23.240> don't<00:48:23.480> have<00:48:23.640> to<00:48:23.680> I<00:48:23.720> mean<00:48:24.320> we<00:48:24.400> don't<00:48:24.520> have » so we don’t have to I mean we don’t have » so we don’t have to I mean we don’t have to<00:48:24.720> do<00:48:24.800> that<00:48:24.920> here.<00:48:25.200> I<00:48:25.480> I'm<00:48:25.640> going<00:48:25.800> to to do that here. I I’m going to to do that here. I I’m going to disagree.<00:48:26.480> That's<00:48:26.720> not<00:48:26.880> my<00:48:27.000> recollection disagree. That’s not my recollection disagree. That’s not my recollection from<00:48:27.720> our<00:48:28.200> subcommittee<00:48:28.680> meetings.<00:48:28.960> But<00:48:29.080> that from our subcommittee meetings. But that from our subcommittee meetings. But that being<00:48:29.440> said,<00:48:30.120> I<00:48:30.200> think<00:48:30.440> going<00:48:30.640> back<00:48:31.040> like<00:48:31.880> so<00:48:32.280> I being said, I think going back like so I being said, I think going back like so I think<00:48:32.880> that<00:48:33.240> we<00:48:33.320> had<00:48:33.440> talked<00:48:33.760> about<00:48:34.080> in<00:48:34.200> the think that we had talked about in the think that we had talked about in the meetings.<00:48:34.960> Okay,<00:48:35.200> so<00:48:35.320> I<00:48:35.360> think<00:48:35.600> at<00:48:35.720> more<00:48:35.920> of meetings. Okay, so I think at more of meetings. Okay, so I think at more of like<00:48:36.200> the<00:48:36.280> 50,000<00:48:36.960> foot<00:48:37.120> level<00:48:37.840> going<00:48:38.000> back<00:48:38.240> to like the 50,000 foot level going back to like the 50,000 foot level going back to Melissa’s<00:48:39.280> comment<00:48:39.600> at<00:48:39.680> the<00:48:39.720> beginning Melissa’s comment at the beginning Melissa’s comment at the beginning um um um that<00:48:42.600> so<00:48:43.160> in that so in that so in 2023 2023 2023 we<00:48:46.040> were<00:48:46.320> discussing<00:48:46.840> this<00:48:47.240> in<00:48:47.360> the<00:48:47.480> fall<00:48:47.720> of we were discussing this in the fall of we were discussing this in the fall of 2023<00:48:48.680> when<00:48:48.760> we<00:48:48.880> started<00:48:49.200> a<00:48:49.280> budget<00:48:50.000> um<00:48:50.280> process 2023 when we started a budget um process 2023 when we started a budget um process to<00:48:51.120> do<00:48:51.360> just<00:48:51.600> this.<00:48:51.920> Now<00:48:52.080> it's<00:48:52.240> 2<00:48:52.360> and<00:48:52.440> 1/2 to do just this. Now it’s 2 and 1/2 to do just this. Now it’s 2 and 1/2 years<00:48:52.960> later<00:48:53.880> and<00:48:54.600> we're<00:48:55.480> now<00:48:55.960> getting<00:48:56.240> the years later and we’re now getting the years later and we’re now getting the numbers<00:48:56.600> we<00:48:56.720> asked<00:48:56.960> for<00:48:57.400> 2<00:48:57.520> and<00:48:57.600> 1/2<00:48:57.760> years<00:48:57.960> ago numbers we asked for 2 and 1/2 years ago numbers we asked for 2 and 1/2 years ago to<00:48:58.560> begin<00:48:58.800> this<00:48:58.960> process.<00:48:59.360> So<00:48:59.480> that's<00:48:59.720> great. to begin this process. So that’s great. to begin this process. So that’s great. That’s<00:49:00.360> good.<00:49:01.200> Um<00:49:02.040> but<00:49:02.880> we<00:49:03.040> do<00:49:03.280> need<00:49:03.600> to<00:49:03.720> see

49:04 That’s good. Um but we do need to see That’s good. Um but we do need to see you<00:49:04.760> know<00:49:04.960> what<00:49:05.160> we're<00:49:05.280> seeing<00:49:05.560> here<00:49:05.800> are<00:49:06.120> what you know what we’re seeing here are what you know what we’re seeing here are what was<00:49:06.440> budgeted.<00:49:06.800> We<00:49:06.920> do<00:49:07.080> need<00:49:07.280> to<00:49:07.360> see<00:49:07.640> what<00:49:07.800> was was budgeted. We do need to see what was was budgeted. We do need to see what was actually<00:49:08.640> spent,<00:49:09.200> what<00:49:09.320> was<00:49:09.440> encumbered, actually spent, what was encumbered, actually spent, what was encumbered, right?<00:49:10.560> And<00:49:10.840> versus<00:49:11.240> what<00:49:11.360> was<00:49:11.520> budgeted<00:49:11.920> for right? And versus what was budgeted for right? And versus what was budgeted for like<00:49:12.320> that<00:49:12.760> that<00:49:13.360> we<00:49:13.600> that<00:49:13.800> we<00:49:13.920> do<00:49:14.080> need<00:49:14.240> to<00:49:14.360> see like that that we that we do need to see like that that we that we do need to see as<00:49:15.320> well<00:49:15.480> which<00:49:15.800> I<00:49:15.840> don't<00:49:16.360> believe<00:49:16.680> are<00:49:16.800> in as well which I don’t believe are in as well which I don’t believe are in in<00:49:17.800> these<00:49:17.960> numbers.<00:49:18.680> And<00:49:18.840> I<00:49:18.880> also<00:49:19.200> want<00:49:19.400> to in these numbers. And I also want to in these numbers. And I also want to point<00:49:19.800> out<00:49:20.600> um<00:49:21.560> that<00:49:21.800> maybe<00:49:22.120> no<00:49:22.280> one<00:49:22.440> at<00:49:22.560> this point out um that maybe no one at this point out um that maybe no one at this table<00:49:23.520> or<00:49:23.640> at<00:49:23.720> that<00:49:23.920> table<00:49:24.840> remembers,<00:49:25.480> but table or at that table remembers, but table or at that table remembers, but you<00:49:25.960> know<00:49:26.200> in<00:49:26.360> 2000<00:49:27.560> I<00:49:27.640> think<00:49:27.840> it<00:49:27.920> was<00:49:28.040> 2000 you know in 2000 I think it was 2000 you know in 2000 I think it was 2000 um um um 20<00:49:32.440> there<00:49:33.200> there<00:49:33.400> was<00:49:33.680> and<00:49:33.880> is<00:49:34.160> an<00:49:34.240> MOU<00:49:34.680> between 20 there there was and is an MOU between 20 there there was and is an MOU between the<00:49:35.080> select<00:49:35.400> board<00:49:35.760> and<00:49:35.960> the<00:49:36.400> school the select board and the school the select board and the school committee<00:49:37.240> to<00:49:37.760> do<00:49:37.960> just<00:49:38.200> what<00:49:38.520> you<00:49:38.600> were committee to do just what you were committee to do just what you were describing<00:49:39.160> earlier<00:49:39.480> which<00:49:39.640> is<00:49:39.760> to<00:49:39.880> have describing earlier which is to have describing earlier which is to have annual<00:49:40.520> meetings<00:49:41.440> around<00:49:42.400> issues annual meetings around issues annual meetings around issues particularly<00:49:43.160> around<00:49:43.440> the<00:49:43.480> budget<00:49:43.760> that<00:49:43.920> came particularly around the budget that came particularly around the budget that came out<00:49:44.320> of<00:49:44.480> the out of the out of the um um um the<00:49:47.360> difficulties<00:49:47.960> we<00:49:48.080> had<00:49:48.240> in<00:49:48.320> 20<00:49:48.680> 2019<00:49:49.440> and

49:50 the difficulties we had in 20 2019 and the difficulties we had in 20 2019 and and<00:49:50.400> there<00:49:50.560> have<00:49:50.680> been<00:49:50.840> requests<00:49:51.280> in<00:49:51.360> the<00:49:51.440> past and there have been requests in the past and there have been requests in the past to<00:49:52.000> do<00:49:52.160> that<00:49:52.400> with<00:49:52.520> the<00:49:52.600> select<00:49:53.000> with<00:49:53.160> the to do that with the select with the to do that with the select with the select<00:49:53.480> board<00:49:53.800> and<00:49:54.120> it<00:49:54.320> hasn't<00:49:54.640> taken<00:49:54.920> place. select board and it hasn’t taken place. select board and it hasn’t taken place. So,<00:49:55.840> I<00:49:55.920> don't<00:49:56.200> think<00:49:56.360> we<00:49:56.440> necessarily<00:49:57.000> need<00:49:57.280> to So, I don’t think we necessarily need to So, I don’t think we necessarily need to reinvent<00:49:57.840> the<00:49:57.920> wheel.<00:49:58.120> We<00:49:58.240> probably<00:49:58.640> need<00:49:58.840> to reinvent the wheel. We probably need to reinvent the wheel. We probably need to look<00:49:59.160> at<00:49:59.280> the<00:49:59.400> MOUs<00:49:59.720> that<00:49:59.840> already<00:50:00.040> exist. look at the MOUs that already exist. look at the MOUs that already exist. Maybe<00:50:00.800> it<00:50:00.920> needs<00:50:01.160> to<00:50:01.240> be<00:50:01.360> adjusted. Maybe it needs to be adjusted. Maybe it needs to be adjusted. But<00:50:03.320> I<00:50:03.360> think<00:50:03.560> it's<00:50:03.680> important,<00:50:04.320> you<00:50:04.400> know, But I think it’s important, you know, But I think it’s important, you know, that<00:50:04.640> we<00:50:04.880> understand<00:50:05.400> that<00:50:05.520> this<00:50:05.760> is that we understand that this is that we understand that this is been been been attempted<00:50:08.920> before<00:50:09.400> and<00:50:09.560> I<00:50:09.640> hope<00:50:09.960> that,<00:50:10.240> you attempted before and I hope that, you attempted before and I hope that, you know,<00:50:10.440> maybe<00:50:10.720> we<00:50:10.840> can<00:50:10.960> actually<00:50:11.280> be know, maybe we can actually be know, maybe we can actually be successful<00:50:11.880> at<00:50:12.040> it.<00:50:12.600> But<00:50:12.720> I<00:50:12.760> do<00:50:12.960> think successful at it. But I do think successful at it. But I do think where<00:50:14.840> we<00:50:15.240> it<00:50:15.400> still<00:50:15.600> doesn't<00:50:16.120> help<00:50:16.480> with where we it still doesn’t help with where we it still doesn’t help with where<00:50:17.600> we<00:50:17.720> sit<00:50:17.880> right<00:50:18.000> now.<00:50:18.120> I<00:50:18.160> mean,<00:50:18.280> we<00:50:18.760> I where we sit right now. I mean, we I where we sit right now. I mean, we I guess<00:50:19.000> the<00:50:19.080> question<00:50:19.400> to<00:50:19.480> the<00:50:19.560> committee<00:50:19.880> is guess the question to the committee is guess the question to the committee is are<00:50:20.080> we are we are we going<00:50:21.560> forward<00:50:21.880> with<00:50:22.040> this going forward with this going forward with this version<00:50:23.720> of<00:50:23.800> a<00:50:23.840> budget<00:50:24.400> that<00:50:24.480> we<00:50:24.600> have<00:50:24.760> in version of a budget that we have in version of a budget that we have in front<00:50:25.000> of<00:50:25.120> us<00:50:25.800> with<00:50:25.960> the<00:50:26.040> shifting<00:50:26.720> of front of us with the shifting of front of us with the shifting of of<00:50:28.320> of<00:50:28.560> expenses<00:50:29.400> and<00:50:29.800> corresponding<00:50:30.920> revenue of of expenses and corresponding revenue of of expenses and corresponding revenue and and and um<00:50:33.280> and<00:50:33.480> budgeted<00:50:33.920> revenue um and budgeted revenue

50:35 um and budgeted revenue this<00:50:35.520> year<00:50:36.400> for<00:50:36.600> this<00:50:36.800> FY27<00:50:37.600> budget<00:50:37.880> cuz this year for this FY27 budget cuz this year for this FY27 budget cuz there’s<00:50:38.360> there's<00:50:38.520> a<00:50:38.960> lot<00:50:39.120> of<00:50:39.160> work<00:50:39.280> to<00:50:39.360> be<00:50:39.440> done there’s there’s a lot of work to be done there’s there’s a lot of work to be done in<00:50:39.760> a<00:50:39.840> short<00:50:40.080> period<00:50:40.280> of<00:50:40.360> time. in a short period of time. in a short period of time. Or<00:50:42.160> do<00:50:42.280> we<00:50:42.360> move<00:50:42.600> forward<00:50:43.160> with<00:50:43.360> how<00:50:43.480> we<00:50:43.600> have Or do we move forward with how we have Or do we move forward with how we have done<00:50:44.040> it<00:50:44.520> and<00:50:44.600> what<00:50:44.720> we<00:50:44.800> were<00:50:44.920> asked<00:50:45.160> to<00:50:45.240> do<00:50:45.640> and done it and what we were asked to do and done it and what we were asked to do and what<00:50:45.800> we<00:50:45.880> did<00:50:46.040> complete<00:50:47.320> last<00:50:47.720> month? what we did complete last month? what we did complete last month? Um<00:50:49.040> and<00:50:49.280> have<00:50:49.480> this<00:50:49.720> be,<00:50:50.160> so<00:50:50.440> you<00:50:50.520> know,<00:50:50.600> more Um and have this be, so you know, more Um and have this be, so you know, more of<00:50:50.800> a<00:50:50.840> working<00:50:51.840> project<00:50:51.960> for<00:50:52.680> FY28. of a working project for FY28. of a working project for FY28. » Like<00:50:53.840> I<00:50:53.920> mentioned<00:50:54.320> before,<00:50:54.680> if<00:50:54.880> if<00:50:55.040> you<00:50:55.160> went » Like I mentioned before, if if you went » Like I mentioned before, if if you went with<00:50:55.440> the<00:50:55.520> 50/50<00:50:56.200> split<00:50:57.240> from with the 50/50 split from with the 50/50 split from the<00:50:58.720> independent<00:50:59.360> watchdog's<00:51:00.000> perspective, the independent watchdog’s perspective, the independent watchdog’s perspective, the<00:51:01.000> schools<00:51:01.360> would<00:51:01.480> be<00:51:01.600> at<00:51:01.760> 90<00:51:02.400> 900,000<00:51:03.360> less the schools would be at 90 900,000 less the schools would be at 90 900,000 less than<00:51:03.760> last<00:51:04.040> year. than last year. than last year. Oh,<00:51:05.880> and<00:51:06.200> okay,<00:51:06.520> and<00:51:06.600> we<00:51:06.720> can<00:51:06.840> talk<00:51:06.960> about<00:51:07.160> I Oh, and okay, and we can talk about I Oh, and okay, and we can talk about I just<00:51:07.920> don't<00:51:08.200> know<00:51:08.920> I'm<00:51:08.960> trying<00:51:09.160> to<00:51:09.240> understand just don’t know I’m trying to understand just don’t know I’m trying to understand if<00:51:09.560> we're<00:51:09.640> trying<00:51:09.880> to<00:51:09.960> move<00:51:10.440> forward if we’re trying to move forward if we’re trying to move forward » know<00:51:10.680> that<00:51:11.000> level<00:51:11.560> level<00:51:11.960> to<00:51:12.080> last<00:51:12.520> year<00:51:12.720> was » know that level level to last year was » know that level level to last year was ever<00:51:13.440> on<00:51:13.640> the<00:51:13.720> table<00:51:14.120> from<00:51:14.600> from<00:51:14.920> the ever on the table from from the ever on the table from from the independent<00:51:15.640> party's<00:51:16.000> perspective<00:51:16.600> here. independent party’s perspective here. independent party’s perspective here. Well,<00:51:17.120> it<00:51:17.240> was<00:51:17.520> up<00:51:17.640> until<00:51:17.880> about,<00:51:18.520> you<00:51:18.600> know, Well, it was up until about, you know, Well, it was up until about, you know, four<00:51:19.080> or<00:51:19.120> five<00:51:19.320> weeks<00:51:19.520> ago<00:51:19.680> and<00:51:20.120> all

51:20 four or five weeks ago and all four or five weeks ago and all throughout<00:51:20.600> the<00:51:20.680> season<00:51:21.000> that<00:51:21.160> was<00:51:21.280> what<00:51:21.440> we throughout the season that was what we throughout the season that was what we were<00:51:21.600> being<00:51:21.800> directed<00:51:22.080> to<00:51:22.120> do. were being directed to do. were being directed to do. Yeah,<00:51:23.520> I<00:51:23.640> sat<00:51:23.880> at<00:51:23.960> a<00:51:24.000> table<00:51:24.360> with<00:51:24.520> you,<00:51:24.640> Alec, Yeah, I sat at a table with you, Alec, Yeah, I sat at a table with you, Alec, and<00:51:25.080> Molly.<00:51:25.400> You<00:51:25.520> were<00:51:25.600> like,<00:51:25.960> this<00:51:26.160> is<00:51:26.240> what and Molly. You were like, this is what and Molly. You were like, this is what we’re<00:51:26.480> doing,<00:51:27.200> level<00:51:27.480> funded.<00:51:28.040> That<00:51:28.240> was<00:51:28.360> the we’re doing, level funded. That was the we’re doing, level funded. That was the directive.<00:51:29.120> I<00:51:29.240> understand<00:51:29.800> things<00:51:30.160> have directive. I understand things have directive. I understand things have shifted.<00:51:31.200> I'm<00:51:31.320> not<00:51:31.560> I'm<00:51:31.680> not<00:51:31.840> saying<00:51:32.080> things shifted. I’m not I’m not saying things shifted. I’m not I’m not saying things haven’t<00:51:32.520> shifted. haven’t shifted. haven’t shifted. » to<00:51:32.960> that.<00:51:33.040> Let<00:51:33.120> me<00:51:33.200> respond<00:51:33.400> to<00:51:33.480> that.<00:51:33.560> Let<00:51:33.680> me » to that. Let me respond to that. Let me » to that. Let me respond to that. Let me respond<00:51:34.120> to<00:51:34.160> that. respond to that. respond to that. I<00:51:35.200> sat<00:51:35.520> in<00:51:35.600> the<00:51:35.680> meeting<00:51:36.000> and<00:51:36.120> I<00:51:36.200> said I sat in the meeting and I said I sat in the meeting and I said I’ve<00:51:37.480> been<00:51:37.640> on<00:51:37.800> this<00:51:37.960> committee<00:51:38.320> for<00:51:38.480> 10<00:51:38.760> years I’ve been on this committee for 10 years I’ve been on this committee for 10 years and<00:51:39.400> you<00:51:39.480> can<00:51:39.680> read<00:51:39.920> my<00:51:40.080> FinCom<00:51:41.280> reports<00:51:41.800> to and you can read my FinCom reports to and you can read my FinCom reports to town<00:51:42.200> meeting<00:51:42.560> that<00:51:43.160> we<00:51:43.280> have<00:51:43.440> a<00:51:43.480> structural town meeting that we have a structural town meeting that we have a structural deficit<00:51:44.600> and<00:51:44.760> that<00:51:45.200> what's<00:51:45.600> coming<00:51:46.080> is<00:51:46.240> here. deficit and that what’s coming is here. deficit and that what’s coming is here. It<00:51:47.480> was<00:51:47.720> October<00:51:48.880> and<00:51:49.000> we<00:51:49.120> had<00:51:49.280> a<00:51:49.320> revenue It was October and we had a revenue It was October and we had a revenue forecast<00:51:50.400> that<00:51:50.560> suggested<00:51:51.200> we<00:51:51.320> had<00:51:51.960> $700,000 forecast that suggested we had $700,000 forecast that suggested we had $700,000 less<00:51:53.720> of<00:51:53.840> available<00:51:54.360> revenue.<00:51:55.360> And<00:51:55.520> I<00:51:55.600> said, less of available revenue. And I said, less of available revenue. And I said, “We<00:51:56.000> have<00:51:56.160> not<00:51:56.720> completed<00:51:57.240> the<00:51:57.360> three-year “We have not completed the three-year “We have not completed the three-year expense<00:51:58.360> forecast.<00:51:59.520> That'll<00:51:59.840> be<00:51:59.960> presented expense forecast. That’ll be presented expense forecast. That’ll be presented in<00:52:00.560> December."<00:52:01.640> As<00:52:02.000> of<00:52:02.160> now,<00:52:02.560> I<00:52:02.680> said,<00:52:03.480> "I in December.” As of now, I said, “I in December.” As of now, I said, “I would<00:52:03.720> expect<00:52:04.360> the<00:52:04.480> most<00:52:04.960> you're<00:52:05.080> going<00:52:05.280> to would expect the most you’re going to

52:05 would expect the most you’re going to get<00:52:06.240> is<00:52:06.560> level<00:52:06.920> to<00:52:07.040> last<00:52:07.440> year<00:52:08.080> and<00:52:08.240> maybe<00:52:08.560> less get is level to last year and maybe less get is level to last year and maybe less than<00:52:09.040> that."<00:52:09.440> We<00:52:09.560> were<00:52:09.680> not<00:52:09.960> When<00:52:10.160> I<00:52:10.240> said<00:52:10.560> that than that.” We were not When I said that than that.” We were not When I said that to<00:52:10.920> you,<00:52:11.760> I'm<00:52:11.960> a<00:52:12.040> finance<00:52:12.480> committee<00:52:12.800> member to you, I’m a finance committee member to you, I’m a finance committee member trying<00:52:14.160> to<00:52:14.320> nudge<00:52:14.680> you<00:52:14.800> in<00:52:14.920> the<00:52:15.040> right trying to nudge you in the right trying to nudge you in the right direction.<00:52:15.800> That<00:52:15.960> wasn't<00:52:16.400> a<00:52:16.480> directive<00:52:17.280> from direction. That wasn’t a directive from direction. That wasn’t a directive from me.<00:52:17.720> I<00:52:17.800> don't<00:52:18.160> I<00:52:18.200> don't<00:52:18.480> make<00:52:18.760> policy<00:52:19.360> as<00:52:19.560> to me. I don’t I don’t make policy as to me. I don’t I don’t make policy as to how<00:52:19.960> to<00:52:20.720> allocate<00:52:21.240> revenue<00:52:21.640> between<00:52:22.040> town<00:52:22.280> and how to allocate revenue between town and how to allocate revenue between town and schools.<00:52:23.280> And<00:52:23.440> I<00:52:23.480> believe<00:52:23.800> your<00:52:23.880> report schools. And I believe your report schools. And I believe your report you’re<00:52:24.320> reading,<00:52:24.640> so<00:52:24.800> you<00:52:24.880> guys<00:52:25.120> can<00:52:25.240> all<00:52:25.360> look you’re reading, so you guys can all look you’re reading, so you guys can all look back<00:52:25.800> at<00:52:25.880> what<00:52:26.040> I<00:52:26.080> said.<00:52:26.800> So,<00:52:26.920> if<00:52:27.040> that<00:52:27.280> was back at what I said. So, if that was back at what I said. So, if that was what<00:52:27.960> you<00:52:28.120> heard,<00:52:29.120> it<00:52:29.320> it<00:52:29.440> wasn't<00:52:29.760> a<00:52:29.800> directive what you heard, it it wasn’t a directive what you heard, it it wasn’t a directive from<00:52:30.560> the<00:52:30.680> town<00:52:31.480> when<00:52:31.680> we<00:52:31.800> had<00:52:32.000> that<00:52:32.200> meeting from the town when we had that meeting from the town when we had that meeting that<00:52:32.800> you<00:52:32.880> just<00:52:33.120> referenced.<00:52:33.720> I<00:52:33.760> just<00:52:33.960> wanted that you just referenced. I just wanted that you just referenced. I just wanted to<00:52:34.200> make<00:52:34.320> that<00:52:34.600> clear. to make that clear. to make that clear. So,<00:52:35.840> again,<00:52:36.360> I'm<00:52:36.440> just<00:52:36.680> asking,<00:52:37.400> where<00:52:37.680> are<00:52:37.760> we So, again, I’m just asking, where are we So, again, I’m just asking, where are we moving<00:52:38.280> for<00:52:38.520> Where<00:52:38.720> are<00:52:38.800> we<00:52:39.120> going<00:52:39.440> with<00:52:39.760> from moving for Where are we going with from moving for Where are we going with from this<00:52:40.080> point? this point? this point? It<00:52:41.760> feels<00:52:42.120> like<00:52:42.320> everybody<00:52:43.480> wants<00:52:43.840> to<00:52:44.000> move, It feels like everybody wants to move, It feels like everybody wants to move, but<00:52:44.720> I<00:52:44.760> have<00:52:44.920> a<00:52:45.000> select<00:52:45.360> board<00:52:45.560> member<00:52:45.840> to<00:52:45.960> my but I have a select board member to my but I have a select board member to my right<00:52:46.360> here<00:52:46.560> that<00:52:46.880> wants<00:52:47.280> to, right here that wants to, right here that wants to, whether<00:52:48.680> it's<00:52:48.920> a<00:52:49.560> firm<00:52:49.920> policy<00:52:50.560> allocation<00:52:51.360> or

52:51 whether it’s a firm policy allocation or whether it’s a firm policy allocation or just<00:52:51.960> a<00:52:52.040> direction<00:52:52.760> to<00:52:53.240> collaborate<00:52:54.000> in<00:52:54.080> the just a direction to collaborate in the just a direction to collaborate in the fall<00:52:55.000> annually<00:52:55.560> and<00:52:55.760> figure<00:52:56.080> out<00:52:56.720> these fall annually and figure out these fall annually and figure out these shared<00:52:57.280> costs<00:52:57.720> and<00:52:57.840> how<00:52:58.000> to<00:52:58.120> allocate<00:52:58.600> them shared costs and how to allocate them shared costs and how to allocate them and<00:52:59.280> and<00:52:59.440> how<00:52:59.560> to<00:52:59.720> look<00:52:59.920> at<00:53:00.040> the<00:53:00.160> available and and how to look at the available and and how to look at the available revenues<00:53:01.720> for<00:53:01.920> each<00:53:02.120> side,<00:53:02.880> whether<00:53:03.120> it's<00:53:03.280> a revenues for each side, whether it’s a revenues for each side, whether it’s a shift<00:53:03.720> of<00:53:03.880> actual<00:53:04.920> school<00:53:05.280> department<00:53:06.040> budget shift of actual school department budget shift of actual school department budget as<00:53:07.480> presented<00:53:08.200> or<00:53:08.400> just<00:53:08.840> a<00:53:09.200> an<00:53:09.320> analysis<00:53:09.760> done as presented or just a an analysis done as presented or just a an analysis done before<00:53:10.360> that<00:53:10.600> bottom<00:53:10.920> line<00:53:11.120> that<00:53:11.240> gets before that bottom line that gets before that bottom line that gets presented.<00:53:12.280> That's<00:53:12.520> a<00:53:12.560> presentational<00:53:13.360> issue presented. That’s a presentational issue presented. That’s a presentational issue for<00:53:13.840> me,<00:53:14.040> but<00:53:14.240> it<00:53:14.320> sounds<00:53:14.640> like<00:53:15.520> both<00:53:15.800> sides for me, but it sounds like both sides for me, but it sounds like both sides need<00:53:16.280> to<00:53:16.400> work<00:53:16.600> together<00:53:17.160> and<00:53:17.560> and<00:53:18.320> figure<00:53:18.640> out need to work together and and figure out need to work together and and figure out how<00:53:18.840> to<00:53:18.960> address<00:53:19.320> this<00:53:19.720> and how to address this and how to address this and like<00:53:21.000> I<00:53:21.080> said,<00:53:21.320> the<00:53:21.440> only<00:53:21.640> reason<00:53:21.920> why<00:53:22.080> I<00:53:22.160> got like I said, the only reason why I got like I said, the only reason why I got into<00:53:22.560> the<00:53:22.640> town<00:53:22.960> side<00:53:23.200> cuts<00:53:23.480> is<00:53:23.600> cuz<00:53:23.760> I've<00:53:23.880> been into the town side cuts is cuz I’ve been into the town side cuts is cuz I’ve been hearing<00:53:24.320> a<00:53:24.360> lot<00:53:24.600> in<00:53:24.680> the<00:53:24.760> public<00:53:25.160> about<00:53:26.160> that hearing a lot in the public about that hearing a lot in the public about that these<00:53:26.600> are<00:53:26.720> scare<00:53:27.040> tactics.<00:53:27.640> And<00:53:27.800> And<00:53:27.960> what<00:53:28.080> I these are scare tactics. And And what I these are scare tactics. And And what I can<00:53:28.280> assure<00:53:28.560> you<00:53:28.680> is<00:53:28.840> they're<00:53:29.000> not.<00:53:29.920> And can assure you is they’re not. And can assure you is they’re not. And if<00:53:31.640> the<00:53:31.760> schools<00:53:32.080> were<00:53:32.200> at<00:53:32.360> level if the schools were at level if the schools were at level and<00:53:33.760> the<00:53:33.840> no<00:53:34.040> trash<00:53:34.440> fee,<00:53:34.640> which<00:53:34.880> was<00:53:35.280> a<00:53:35.360> new and the no trash fee, which was a new and the no trash fee, which was a new concept<00:53:36.120> that<00:53:36.280> I've<00:53:36.400> heard<00:53:36.600> in<00:53:36.640> the<00:53:36.720> last<00:53:37.000> few

53:37 concept that I’ve heard in the last few concept that I’ve heard in the last few weeks<00:53:37.400> here<00:53:37.640> as<00:53:37.800> being<00:53:38.040> considered,<00:53:39.120> the<00:53:39.240> town weeks here as being considered, the town weeks here as being considered, the town was<00:53:39.640> cutting<00:53:39.960> 50<00:53:40.240> to<00:53:40.360> 60<00:53:40.680> employees.<00:53:41.160> And<00:53:41.280> that was cutting 50 to 60 employees. And that was cutting 50 to 60 employees. And that would<00:53:41.520> have<00:53:41.600> been<00:53:41.720> if<00:53:41.800> the<00:53:41.880> schools<00:53:42.280> were would have been if the schools were would have been if the schools were level<00:53:42.680> last<00:53:43.000> year.<00:53:43.360> I<00:53:43.440> just<00:53:43.600> wanted<00:53:43.760> to<00:53:43.840> make level last year. I just wanted to make level last year. I just wanted to make that<00:53:44.160> point<00:53:45.040> so<00:53:45.160> that<00:53:45.280> people<00:53:45.520> understand<00:53:46.120> the that point so that people understand the that point so that people understand the magnitude<00:53:46.800> of<00:53:46.880> that.<00:53:47.080> I<00:53:47.240> I<00:53:47.280> understand<00:53:48.320> and magnitude of that. I I understand and magnitude of that. I I understand and the<00:53:48.680> schools<00:53:49.040> have<00:53:49.160> been<00:53:49.400> absolutely the schools have been absolutely the schools have been absolutely fabulous<00:53:50.400> to<00:53:50.520> work<00:53:50.760> with.<00:53:51.520> I've<00:53:51.680> been<00:53:51.800> doing fabulous to work with. I’ve been doing fabulous to work with. I’ve been doing this<00:53:52.160> for<00:53:52.280> 10<00:53:52.520> years.<00:53:53.320> The<00:53:53.440> collaboration this for 10 years. The collaboration this for 10 years. The collaboration between<00:53:54.480> the<00:53:54.600> select<00:53:55.040> board,<00:53:55.680> school between the select board, school between the select board, school committee,<00:53:56.600> school<00:53:57.000> leadership, committee, school leadership, committee, school leadership, FinCom,<00:53:59.440> which<00:53:59.720> I<00:53:59.800> feel<00:54:00.000> like<00:54:00.160> we've<00:54:00.360> always FinCom, which I feel like we’ve always FinCom, which I feel like we’ve always sort<00:54:00.800> of<00:54:00.920> tried<00:54:01.240> to<00:54:01.320> play<00:54:01.560> nice,<00:54:01.960> but<00:54:02.800> um<00:54:03.080> it's sort of tried to play nice, but um it’s sort of tried to play nice, but um it’s been<00:54:03.480> better<00:54:03.720> than<00:54:03.880> it's<00:54:04.080> ever<00:54:04.280> been<00:54:04.600> since been better than it’s ever been since been better than it’s ever been since since<00:54:05.240> these<00:54:05.480> two<00:54:05.680> right<00:54:05.840> here<00:54:06.080> have<00:54:06.200> been since these two right here have been since these two right here have been here. here. here. Um<00:54:07.520> so<00:54:07.960> I<00:54:08.040> appreciate<00:54:08.640> that,<00:54:09.360> but<00:54:09.840> we've<00:54:10.080> hit Um so I appreciate that, but we’ve hit Um so I appreciate that, but we’ve hit our<00:54:10.600> fiscal<00:54:11.080> cliff<00:54:12.040> and<00:54:12.200> we're<00:54:12.360> short<00:54:12.920> 6<00:54:13.320> to<00:54:13.520> 8 our fiscal cliff and we’re short 6 to 8 our fiscal cliff and we’re short 6 to 8 million<00:54:14.000> dollars,<00:54:14.400> whatever<00:54:14.680> number<00:54:15.000> you million dollars, whatever number you million dollars, whatever number you want<00:54:15.280> to<00:54:15.400> use,<00:54:16.360> and<00:54:16.480> that's<00:54:16.800> a<00:54:16.840> reason<00:54:17.240> to want to use, and that’s a reason to want to use, and that’s a reason to re-look<00:54:17.720> at<00:54:17.840> things,<00:54:18.440> right?<00:54:19.040> So<00:54:19.160> that's<00:54:19.400> part re-look at things, right? So that’s part re-look at things, right? So that’s part of<00:54:19.600> the<00:54:19.680> reason<00:54:19.880> we're<00:54:20.000> looking<00:54:20.240> at<00:54:20.360> it.<00:54:20.840> And of the reason we’re looking at it. And of the reason we’re looking at it. And and<00:54:21.080> that's<00:54:21.280> really<00:54:21.480> all<00:54:21.640> I<00:54:21.680> got.<00:54:22.160> If<00:54:22.840> if<00:54:23.040> I

54:23 and that’s really all I got. If if I and that’s really all I got. If if I just<00:54:23.320> go<00:54:23.440> back<00:54:23.720> to<00:54:23.840> the<00:54:23.960> 50,000<00:54:25.080> foot just go back to the 50,000 foot just go back to the 50,000 foot perspective, perspective, perspective, um um um you<00:54:29.120> know,<00:54:29.240> we<00:54:29.400> put<00:54:29.600> together<00:54:30.360> just<00:54:30.600> one you know, we put together just one you know, we put together just one budget<00:54:31.640> Yep.<00:54:32.080> as<00:54:32.240> of<00:54:32.320> this<00:54:32.520> time.<00:54:33.160> Yep.<00:54:33.480> Um budget Yep. as of this time. Yep. Um budget Yep. as of this time. Yep. Um but<00:54:34.960> it<00:54:35.240> I<00:54:35.320> don't<00:54:35.480> think<00:54:35.600> we<00:54:35.720> can<00:54:35.880> consider<00:54:36.280> it but it I don’t think we can consider it but it I don’t think we can consider it a<00:54:36.440> balanced<00:54:36.960> budget<00:54:37.760> at<00:54:37.920> anyone a balanced budget at anyone a balanced budget at anyone [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] given<00:54:39.160> the<00:54:39.240> numbers<00:54:39.680> that<00:54:39.800> you<00:54:39.920> just given the numbers that you just given the numbers that you just you<00:54:41.040> know,<00:54:41.120> we<00:54:41.240> all<00:54:41.360> just<00:54:41.560> discussed. you know, we all just discussed. you know, we all just discussed. Right?<00:54:43.640> So<00:54:43.800> Jen,<00:54:44.000> this<00:54:44.160> is<00:54:44.280> all<00:54:44.400> the<00:54:44.480> way<00:54:44.560> to Right? So Jen, this is all the way to Right? So Jen, this is all the way to your<00:54:44.840> question<00:54:45.280> as<00:54:45.360> to<00:54:45.480> where<00:54:45.640> the<00:54:45.720> committee your question as to where the committee your question as to where the committee is. is. is. Um Um Um you<00:54:49.480> know, you know, you know, Well,<00:54:51.400> the<00:54:51.520> trouble<00:54:51.960> is<00:54:52.040> a<00:54:52.080> little<00:54:52.320> bit<00:54:52.440> of Well, the trouble is a little bit of Well, the trouble is a little bit of those<00:54:52.760> words<00:54:53.200> um<00:54:53.640> Al,<00:54:53.800> because<00:54:54.480> we<00:54:54.720> are those words um Al, because we are those words um Al, because we are required<00:54:55.480> as<00:54:55.600> a<00:54:55.680> town<00:54:56.120> meeting<00:54:56.480> to<00:54:56.640> present<00:54:57.040> to required as a town meeting to present to required as a town meeting to present to pass<00:54:57.400> a<00:54:57.440> balanced<00:54:57.760> budget.<00:54:58.400> So<00:54:58.480> what<00:54:58.600> that pass a balanced budget. So what that pass a balanced budget. So what that means<00:54:59.000> is<00:54:59.200> we<00:54:59.280> have<00:54:59.440> to<00:54:59.520> pass<00:54:59.760> a<00:54:59.840> budget, means is we have to pass a budget, means is we have to pass a budget, correct<00:55:00.760> me<00:55:00.840> if<00:55:00.920> I'm<00:55:01.000> wrong,<00:55:01.200> Al,<00:55:01.320> that<00:55:02.000> is correct me if I’m wrong, Al, that is correct me if I’m wrong, Al, that is reflective<00:55:02.720> of<00:55:02.840> the<00:55:02.920> projected<00:55:03.360> revenues.<00:55:04.160> So reflective of the projected revenues. So reflective of the projected revenues. So I<00:55:04.440> think<00:55:04.960> in<00:55:05.080> terms<00:55:05.320> of<00:55:05.400> a<00:55:05.480> level<00:55:05.840> funded I think in terms of a level funded I think in terms of a level funded budget,<00:55:06.640> it<00:55:06.760> sounds<00:55:07.040> like,<00:55:07.680> you<00:55:07.800> know,<00:55:08.360> that's

55:08 budget, it sounds like, you know, that’s budget, it sounds like, you know, that’s what<00:55:08.840> it<00:55:08.920> sounds<00:55:09.280> like.<00:55:09.600> We<00:55:09.680> have<00:55:09.760> to<00:55:09.840> do<00:55:09.920> it. what it sounds like. We have to do it. what it sounds like. We have to do it. required<00:55:10.400> for<00:55:10.520> them<00:55:10.640> to<00:55:10.720> recommend<00:55:11.280> push<00:55:11.800> to required for them to recommend push to required for them to recommend push to town<00:55:12.200> meeting.<00:55:12.600> So<00:55:13.040> there<00:55:13.400> there<00:55:13.640> are<00:55:13.880> columns town meeting. So there there are columns town meeting. So there there are columns in<00:55:14.920> in<00:55:15.120> the<00:55:15.200> way<00:55:15.360> we<00:55:15.520> present<00:55:15.960> it<00:55:16.080> to<00:55:16.240> town in in the way we present it to town in in the way we present it to town meeting<00:55:16.720> that<00:55:16.880> say<00:55:17.520> budget<00:55:17.880> requested<00:55:18.480> first meeting that say budget requested first meeting that say budget requested first budget<00:55:19.120> recommended.<00:55:20.280> And<00:55:20.480> and<00:55:21.240> it's<00:55:21.400> always budget recommended. And and it’s always budget recommended. And and it’s always been<00:55:21.800> equal<00:55:22.200> since<00:55:22.440> I've<00:55:22.600> been<00:55:22.760> on<00:55:22.880> the been equal since I’ve been on the been equal since I’ve been on the committee,<00:55:23.280> but<00:55:23.480> there<00:55:23.640> is<00:55:23.800> an<00:55:24.080> opportunity committee, but there is an opportunity committee, but there is an opportunity for<00:55:24.960> a<00:55:25.000> department<00:55:25.480> to<00:55:25.560> say,<00:55:25.760> "Hey,<00:55:25.960> we<00:55:26.160> want for a department to say, “Hey, we want for a department to say, “Hey, we want more.”<00:55:27.160> And<00:55:27.280> the<00:55:27.360> FinCom<00:55:27.840> has<00:55:28.040> to<00:55:28.120> decide more.” And the FinCom has to decide more.” And the FinCom has to decide whether<00:55:28.960> they<00:55:29.120> recommend<00:55:29.640> that<00:55:29.880> or<00:55:29.960> not.<00:55:30.320> So whether they recommend that or not. So whether they recommend that or not. So there<00:55:30.640> can<00:55:30.880> be<00:55:31.000> a<00:55:31.040> discrepancy<00:55:32.360> to<00:55:32.560> town there can be a discrepancy to town there can be a discrepancy to town meeting<00:55:33.200> as<00:55:33.400> to<00:55:33.560> what<00:55:33.960> a<00:55:34.400> department<00:55:34.880> requests meeting as to what a department requests meeting as to what a department requests first<00:55:35.600> what<00:55:35.720> we<00:55:35.800> recommend.<00:55:36.600> Yep. first what we recommend. Yep. first what we recommend. Yep. And<00:55:38.680> correct<00:55:38.880> me<00:55:38.960> if<00:55:39.040> I'm<00:55:39.160> wrong,<00:55:39.360> but<00:55:39.480> we And correct me if I’m wrong, but we And correct me if I’m wrong, but we can’t can’t can’t The<00:55:40.800> balanced<00:55:41.200> budget<00:55:41.520> we<00:55:41.680> present<00:55:42.120> might<00:55:42.360> not The balanced budget we present might not The balanced budget we present might not be<00:55:42.720> what<00:55:42.880> we<00:55:43.080> request.<00:55:43.960> But<00:55:44.160> can<00:55:44.280> the<00:55:44.400> town be what we request. But can the town be what we request. But can the town pass<00:55:45.680> an<00:55:45.800> unbalanced<00:55:46.240> budget?<00:55:46.520> Like<00:55:46.680> in<00:55:46.760> the pass an unbalanced budget? Like in the pass an unbalanced budget? Like in the Can<00:55:47.280> the<00:55:47.440> town Can the town Can the town » No,<00:55:47.800> it<00:55:47.920> can't,<00:55:48.280> but<00:55:49.000> you<00:55:49.120> know,<00:55:49.320> there<00:55:49.480> would » No, it can’t, but you know, there would » No, it can’t, but you know, there would have<00:55:49.760> to<00:55:49.840> be<00:55:50.000> a<00:55:50.080> vote<00:55:50.400> on<00:55:50.560> that<00:55:50.800> at<00:55:50.880> town have to be a vote on that at town have to be a vote on that at town meeting<00:55:51.360> or<00:55:51.480> a<00:55:51.560> hold<00:55:52.000> or<00:55:52.120> whatnot,<00:55:52.720> right?<00:55:52.880> I meeting or a hold or whatnot, right? I meeting or a hold or whatnot, right? I think<00:55:53.160> the<00:55:53.280> vote<00:55:53.600> would<00:55:53.760> be<00:55:53.920> on<00:55:54.120> what<00:55:54.280> the

55:54 think the vote would be on what the think the vote would be on what the FinCom<00:55:54.920> has<00:55:55.120> recommended,<00:55:55.800> but FinCom has recommended, but FinCom has recommended, but they<00:55:57.120> would<00:55:57.400> There<00:55:57.520> would<00:55:57.640> be<00:55:57.760> the they would There would be the they would There would be the opportunity<00:55:58.440> to<00:55:58.560> hold.<00:55:59.080> I'm<00:55:59.240> also<00:55:59.480> not<00:55:59.680> the opportunity to hold. I’m also not the opportunity to hold. I’m also not the best<00:56:00.160> at<00:56:00.240> like<00:56:00.600> the<00:56:00.720> town<00:56:01.040> meeting,<00:56:01.400> how<00:56:01.560> it best at like the town meeting, how it best at like the town meeting, how it works. works. works. I<00:56:03.280> think<00:56:03.440> we<00:56:03.520> can<00:56:03.680> figure<00:56:03.880> that<00:56:04.120> out.<00:56:04.680> If I think we can figure that out. If I think we can figure that out. If there’s<00:56:05.040> questions<00:56:05.880> for<00:56:06.000> the<00:56:06.080> next<00:56:06.240> few there’s questions for the next few there’s questions for the next few months. months. months. » So,<00:56:06.600> I<00:56:06.680> think<00:56:06.880> that<00:56:07.200> the<00:56:07.320> issue<00:56:07.600> the<00:56:07.960> I<00:56:08.080> guess » So, I think that the issue the I guess » So, I think that the issue the I guess the<00:56:08.440> question<00:56:08.800> I<00:56:08.840> guess<00:56:09.320> I<00:56:09.440> guess<00:56:09.840> to<00:56:09.960> the the question I guess I guess to the the question I guess I guess to the school<00:56:10.240> committee<00:56:10.560> is school committee is school committee is why<00:56:12.280> on<00:56:12.520> FinCom<00:56:12.880> like why on FinCom like why on FinCom like are<00:56:13.800> we<00:56:13.920> going<00:56:14.240> forward<00:56:14.880> with<00:56:15.720> um are we going forward with um are we going forward with um this<00:56:16.920> sort<00:56:17.120> of<00:56:17.280> shift<00:56:17.920> of<00:56:18.160> both<00:56:18.480> revenue<00:56:18.880> and this sort of shift of both revenue and this sort of shift of both revenue and expense<00:56:19.840> and<00:56:19.960> trying<00:56:20.280> to<00:56:20.760> quickly expense and trying to quickly expense and trying to quickly do<00:56:22.760> what<00:56:23.120> could<00:56:23.320> be<00:56:24.000> up<00:56:24.160> to<00:56:24.280> a<00:56:24.360> year's<00:56:24.640> worth<00:56:24.800> of do what could be up to a year’s worth of do what could be up to a year’s worth of work<00:56:25.120> in<00:56:25.200> a<00:56:25.240> short<00:56:25.440> period<00:56:25.600> of<00:56:25.680> time<00:56:25.960> or<00:56:26.560> do<00:56:26.720> we work in a short period of time or do we work in a short period of time or do we want<00:56:27.240> to<00:56:28.200> um<00:56:28.880> have<00:56:29.080> that<00:56:29.240> be<00:56:29.360> a<00:56:29.400> longer-term want to um have that be a longer-term want to um have that be a longer-term project<00:56:30.680> and<00:56:31.600> you<00:56:31.720> know,<00:56:31.880> come<00:56:32.160> to<00:56:32.680> some<00:56:33.000> sort project and you know, come to some sort project and you know, come to some sort of<00:56:33.320> an<00:56:33.400> agreement<00:56:33.760> on<00:56:33.840> what<00:56:34.000> we<00:56:34.320> we<00:56:34.480> need<00:56:34.760> to of an agreement on what we we need to of an agreement on what we we need to look<00:56:35.320> at<00:56:36.120> to<00:56:36.560> reduce<00:56:37.200> I<00:56:37.280> mean,<00:56:37.400> it's<00:56:37.560> very<00:56:37.880> very look at to reduce I mean, it’s very very look at to reduce I mean, it’s very very hard<00:56:38.400> to<00:56:38.480> say,<00:56:38.680> but<00:56:38.840> to<00:56:38.960> reduce<00:56:39.840> and<00:56:40.320> cut<00:56:40.800> the

56:40 hard to say, but to reduce and cut the hard to say, but to reduce and cut the budget<00:56:41.240> from<00:56:41.400> last<00:56:41.760> year<00:56:42.000> from<00:56:42.400> I'm<00:56:42.520> sorry, budget from last year from I’m sorry, budget from last year from I’m sorry, this<00:56:42.960> year<00:56:43.160> to<00:56:43.320> next<00:56:43.640> year this year to next year this year to next year um<00:56:45.240> in<00:56:45.440> a<00:56:45.480> number<00:56:45.760> that<00:56:45.960> will<00:56:46.560> um um in a number that will um um in a number that will um help<00:56:47.560> the<00:56:47.640> town<00:56:47.920> achieve<00:56:48.560> you<00:56:48.600> know,<00:56:48.680> help<00:56:48.920> the help the town achieve you know, help the help the town achieve you know, help the town<00:56:49.480> overall<00:56:49.840> achieve<00:56:50.120> the<00:56:50.160> goal<00:56:50.320> of<00:56:50.400> a town overall achieve the goal of a town overall achieve the goal of a balanced<00:56:50.800> budget. I think I think um

57:01 there So, the committee there So, the committee needs<00:57:01.520> to<00:57:01.600> ensure<00:57:01.920> that<00:57:02.040> the<00:57:02.160> schools<00:57:02.520> have needs to ensure that the schools have needs to ensure that the schools have the<00:57:02.800> resources<00:57:03.280> that<00:57:03.400> they<00:57:03.520> need<00:57:03.840> to<00:57:03.960> be<00:57:04.120> able the resources that they need to be able the resources that they need to be able to<00:57:04.520> meet<00:57:04.760> that<00:57:04.960> goal.<00:57:05.560> FinCom<00:57:06.000> will<00:57:06.240> over to meet that goal. FinCom will over to meet that goal. FinCom will over margin. margin. margin. But<00:57:08.080> I<00:57:08.200> think<00:57:09.000> we But I think we But I think we requesting<00:57:11.400> a<00:57:11.440> budget<00:57:11.800> that<00:57:11.920> exceeds<00:57:12.920> the requesting a budget that exceeds the requesting a budget that exceeds the town’s<00:57:13.400> allocation<00:57:13.960> by<00:57:14.120> a<00:57:14.160> million<00:57:14.520> and<00:57:14.640> a town’s allocation by a million and a town’s allocation by a million and a half<00:57:14.960> dollars<00:57:16.280> without<00:57:16.640> a<00:57:16.720> clear<00:57:17.080> path half dollars without a clear path half dollars without a clear path towards<00:57:18.400> funding<00:57:19.080> that<00:57:19.400> million<00:57:19.720> and<00:57:19.840> a<00:57:19.880> half towards funding that million and a half towards funding that million and a half is<00:57:22.400> a<00:57:22.520> symbolic<00:57:23.320> gesture,<00:57:24.480> not<00:57:24.920> a<00:57:25.000> long-term is a symbolic gesture, not a long-term is a symbolic gesture, not a long-term governing<00:57:26.120> strategy.<00:57:26.720> It's<00:57:26.880> going<00:57:27.000> to<00:57:27.080> result governing strategy. It’s going to result governing strategy. It’s going to result in<00:57:27.920> a<00:57:28.040> successful in a successful in a successful hopefully<00:57:30.440> multi-year<00:57:31.200> override<00:57:31.800> that<00:57:31.960> fixes hopefully multi-year override that fixes hopefully multi-year override that fixes the<00:57:32.520> structural<00:57:33.240> deficit<00:57:33.840> and<00:57:33.920> all<00:57:34.040> of<00:57:34.120> them the structural deficit and all of them the structural deficit and all of them once<00:57:34.480> and<00:57:34.640> for<00:57:34.840> all.<00:57:35.120> And<00:57:35.240> so, once and for all. And so, once and for all. And so, I<00:57:37.760> don't<00:57:38.240> want<00:57:38.640> to<00:57:38.800> ask<00:57:39.560> you<00:57:39.680> guys<00:57:40.160> to<00:57:40.280> cut I don’t want to ask you guys to cut I don’t want to ask you guys to cut another<00:57:41.200> million<00:57:41.560> and<00:57:41.680> a<00:57:41.760> half<00:57:42.040> from<00:57:42.160> your another million and a half from your another million and a half from your budget,<00:57:42.800> but<00:57:43.000> I<00:57:43.080> think<00:57:43.640> it budget, but I think it budget, but I think it we<00:57:45.160> have<00:57:45.400> to<00:57:45.520> present<00:57:45.880> a<00:57:45.920> balanced<00:57:46.280> budget<00:57:46.880> in

57:46 we have to present a balanced budget in we have to present a balanced budget in lockstep<00:57:47.520> with<00:57:47.680> the<00:57:47.800> town lockstep with the town lockstep with the town for<00:57:50.160> a<00:57:50.200> few<00:57:50.400> reasons.<00:57:50.800> One,<00:57:51.040> to<00:57:51.160> retain for a few reasons. One, to retain for a few reasons. One, to retain control.<00:57:52.400> Voting<00:57:52.880> Voting<00:57:53.240> a<00:57:53.280> balanced<00:57:53.720> budget control. Voting Voting a balanced budget control. Voting Voting a balanced budget ourselves,<00:57:55.080> I<00:57:55.160> don't<00:57:55.400> want<00:57:55.640> the<00:57:55.720> floor<00:57:56.080> of ourselves, I don’t want the floor of ourselves, I don’t want the floor of town<00:57:56.600> meeting<00:57:57.640> to<00:57:57.760> turn<00:57:58.000> into<00:57:58.280> something town meeting to turn into something town meeting to turn into something where<00:57:58.760> it<00:57:58.880> spirals<00:57:59.320> out<00:57:59.440> of<00:57:59.520> control<00:58:00.160> and<00:58:00.440> we where it spirals out of control and we where it spirals out of control and we we’re<00:58:02.560> kind<00:58:02.760> of<00:58:02.840> on<00:58:02.960> our<00:58:03.040> back<00:58:03.320> foot<00:58:03.560> and<00:58:03.800> and we’re kind of on our back foot and and we’re kind of on our back foot and and we’re<00:58:04.280> like<00:58:04.520> the<00:58:04.600> mercy<00:58:04.920> of<00:58:05.000> what's<00:58:05.200> happening we’re like the mercy of what’s happening we’re like the mercy of what’s happening in<00:58:05.720> the<00:58:05.800> meantime<00:58:06.320> current<00:58:06.560> practice. in the meantime current practice. in the meantime current practice. And<00:58:07.720> we<00:58:07.880> owe<00:58:08.040> it<00:58:08.400> to<00:58:09.120> staff<00:58:09.520> students<00:58:10.000> to<00:58:10.120> make And we owe it to staff students to make And we owe it to staff students to make the<00:58:10.440> decisions<00:58:10.920> ourselves<00:58:11.440> and<00:58:11.560> have<00:58:11.680> a<00:58:11.760> plan the decisions ourselves and have a plan the decisions ourselves and have a plan for<00:58:12.480> how<00:58:12.760> we<00:58:13.000> would<00:58:13.160> want<00:58:13.400> this<00:58:13.600> to<00:58:13.720> go<00:58:13.960> in<00:58:14.080> this for how we would want this to go in this for how we would want this to go in this very<00:58:14.520> dire<00:58:15.000> situation<00:58:15.640> that<00:58:15.880> we<00:58:16.040> need<00:58:16.440> to<00:58:16.520> be very dire situation that we need to be very dire situation that we need to be clear,<00:58:17.280> I<00:58:17.360> do<00:58:17.520> not<00:58:17.720> want<00:58:17.960> and<00:58:18.080> I<00:58:18.160> do<00:58:18.280> not clear, I do not want and I do not clear, I do not want and I do not support.<00:58:18.960> So,<00:58:19.080> I<00:58:19.120> will<00:58:19.320> be<00:58:19.440> supporting<00:58:19.840> it.<00:58:20.400> I support. So, I will be supporting it. I support. So, I will be supporting it. I I<00:58:21.560> think I think I think for<00:58:22.960> any<00:58:23.160> sort<00:58:23.360> of<00:58:23.520> override<00:58:24.480> campaign<00:58:25.520> to for any sort of override campaign to for any sort of override campaign to pass, pass, pass, the<00:58:28.000> school<00:58:28.240> committee<00:58:28.520> and<00:58:28.600> the<00:58:28.680> select the school committee and the select the school committee and the select board<00:58:29.440> need<00:58:29.680> to<00:58:29.760> be<00:58:29.880> operating<00:58:30.360> together. board need to be operating together. board need to be operating together. This<00:58:30.960> is<00:58:31.120> one<00:58:31.480> town.<00:58:32.600> We<00:58:32.800> live<00:58:33.200> and<00:58:33.360> we<00:58:33.480> die

58:33 This is one town. We live and we die This is one town. We live and we die together.<00:58:34.440> This<00:58:34.680> is<00:58:34.800> not<00:58:35.360> the<00:58:35.480> schools,<00:58:36.400> this together. This is not the schools, this together. This is not the schools, this is<00:58:36.640> not<00:58:36.960> the<00:58:37.080> town.<00:58:38.040> We<00:58:38.320> all<00:58:38.600> live<00:58:38.800> here is not the town. We all live here is not the town. We all live here together<00:58:39.360> and<00:58:39.480> we<00:58:39.600> all<00:58:39.720> want<00:58:39.880> this<00:58:40.040> to<00:58:40.120> be<00:58:40.320> the together and we all want this to be the together and we all want this to be the best<00:58:40.920> community<00:58:41.360> with<00:58:41.520> the<00:58:41.600> best<00:58:41.880> schools best community with the best schools best community with the best schools that<00:58:42.560> it<00:58:42.640> possibly<00:58:43.120> can<00:58:43.280> be.<00:58:43.800> And<00:58:43.960> I<00:58:44.040> think that it possibly can be. And I think that it possibly can be. And I think again,<00:58:45.800> voting<00:58:46.120> a<00:58:46.160> budget<00:58:46.520> that<00:58:46.640> does<00:58:46.800> not<00:58:47.120> fit again, voting a budget that does not fit again, voting a budget that does not fit into<00:58:47.560> what<00:58:47.720> the<00:58:47.800> town<00:58:48.040> is<00:58:48.160> doing<00:58:48.640> is<00:58:48.880> just<00:58:49.840> uh into what the town is doing is just uh into what the town is doing is just uh will<00:58:51.240> not<00:58:51.560> achieve<00:58:52.000> that<00:58:52.240> outcome.<00:58:53.240> Um<00:58:54.080> so,<00:58:54.800> I will not achieve that outcome. Um so, I will not achieve that outcome. Um so, I I<00:58:55.280> don't<00:58:55.680> support<00:58:56.880> the<00:58:57.000> additional<00:58:57.440> cuts,<00:58:58.080> but I don’t support the additional cuts, but I don’t support the additional cuts, but I<00:58:58.320> think<00:58:58.640> we<00:58:58.760> need<00:58:59.000> to<00:58:59.080> present<00:58:59.560> a<00:58:59.600> budget<00:59:00.120> that I think we need to present a budget that I think we need to present a budget that way.<00:59:01.320> And<00:59:01.480> then,<00:59:01.760> I<00:59:01.960> will<00:59:02.120> do<00:59:02.320> everything<00:59:02.680> in way. And then, I will do everything in way. And then, I will do everything in my<00:59:02.880> power<00:59:03.360> to<00:59:03.560> support<00:59:04.720> an<00:59:05.000> override<00:59:05.680> to my power to support an override to my power to support an override to ensure<00:59:06.280> that<00:59:06.520> those<00:59:06.840> are<00:59:07.000> all<00:59:07.320> restored.<00:59:08.200> And ensure that those are all restored. And ensure that those are all restored. And I<00:59:08.640> I<00:59:08.760> hope<00:59:09.080> then<00:59:09.320> some<00:59:09.600> of<00:59:09.640> the<00:59:09.920> scenarios<00:59:10.520> you I I hope then some of the scenarios you I I hope then some of the scenarios you guys<00:59:10.720> talked<00:59:10.920> about<00:59:11.120> last<00:59:11.360> night,<00:59:11.600> I guys talked about last night, I guys talked about last night, I I<00:59:13.040> I<00:59:13.200> would<00:59:13.680> Yes.<00:59:14.280> So, I I would Yes. So, I I would Yes. So, I<00:59:15.760> guess<00:59:15.920> that's<00:59:16.200> that's<00:59:16.440> my<00:59:16.600> spiel.<00:59:17.240> I'd I guess that’s that’s my spiel. I’d I guess that’s that’s my spiel. I’d actually<00:59:17.680> want<00:59:17.880> to<00:59:18.000> pick<00:59:18.280> up<00:59:18.440> this<00:59:18.760> thread

59:19 actually want to pick up this thread actually want to pick up this thread from<00:59:19.360> Melissa<00:59:19.720> that<00:59:20.000> I<00:59:20.080> agree<00:59:20.440> with<00:59:20.600> a<00:59:20.640> lot<00:59:20.880> of from Melissa that I agree with a lot of from Melissa that I agree with a lot of what<00:59:21.440> we<00:59:21.560> just<00:59:21.800> said. what we just said. what we just said. And And And you<00:59:25.560> know,<00:59:25.720> I've<00:59:25.920> been<00:59:26.080> struggling<00:59:26.720> since<00:59:27.000> our you know, I’ve been struggling since our you know, I’ve been struggling since our meeting<00:59:27.440> last<00:59:27.840> week<00:59:28.320> and<00:59:28.440> I've<00:59:28.560> lost<00:59:28.840> a<00:59:28.880> lot<00:59:29.120> of meeting last week and I’ve lost a lot of meeting last week and I’ve lost a lot of sleep<00:59:29.800> over<00:59:30.120> the<00:59:30.320> idea<00:59:30.880> of<00:59:31.600> we<00:59:31.720> have<00:59:31.840> an sleep over the idea of we have an sleep over the idea of we have an obligation<00:59:32.960> to<00:59:33.080> advocate<00:59:33.600> for<00:59:33.720> the<00:59:33.800> schools obligation to advocate for the schools obligation to advocate for the schools and and and cutting<00:59:36.920> is<00:59:37.080> not<00:59:37.360> moving<00:59:37.640> the<00:59:37.760> schools<00:59:38.120> in<00:59:38.200> the cutting is not moving the schools in the cutting is not moving the schools in the direction<00:59:38.680> that<00:59:38.840> we<00:59:38.960> need<00:59:39.200> to<00:59:39.280> go.

59:48 we cannot stand apart from the town. We we cannot stand apart from the town. We are<00:59:49.240> intertwined.<00:59:49.920> I<00:59:49.960> think<00:59:50.200> that<00:59:50.400> the are intertwined. I think that the are intertwined. I think that the spreadsheet<00:59:51.560> you<00:59:51.640> presented spreadsheet you presented spreadsheet you presented for<00:59:53.000> me<00:59:53.240> sort<00:59:53.440> of<00:59:53.560> solidified<00:59:54.480> that for me sort of solidified that for me sort of solidified that we<00:59:55.680> have<00:59:55.800> been<00:59:56.000> trying<00:59:56.600> to<00:59:56.800> run<00:59:57.080> two<00:59:57.360> separate we have been trying to run two separate we have been trying to run two separate budgets<00:59:58.680> when<00:59:58.920> we<00:59:59.040> should budgets when we should budgets when we should it<01:00:00.360> is<01:00:00.560> one<01:00:01.080> budget<01:00:01.480> with,<01:00:01.800> you<01:00:01.920> know, it is one budget with, you know, it is one budget with, you know, all<01:00:02.920> our<01:00:03.040> funding<01:00:03.360> sources<01:00:03.800> for<01:00:03.880> the<01:00:04.000> most all our funding sources for the most all our funding sources for the most part<01:00:04.640> only<01:00:04.920> both<01:00:05.160> to<01:00:05.240> some<01:00:05.440> degree. part only both to some degree. part only both to some degree. We<01:00:07.400> share<01:00:08.120> benefit<01:00:08.520> expenses.<01:00:09.800> It<01:00:10.000> just We share benefit expenses. It just We share benefit expenses. It just we<01:00:11.600> need<01:00:12.000> to<01:00:12.160> find<01:00:12.520> a<01:00:12.600> way we need to find a way we need to find a way to<01:00:14.040> work<01:00:14.360> together<01:00:15.240> instead<01:00:15.840> of to work together instead of to work together instead of sort<01:00:17.120> of sort of sort of negotiating negotiating negotiating with<01:00:20.640> one<01:00:20.840> another<01:00:21.280> for<01:00:22.040> a<01:00:22.080> pot<01:00:22.280> of<01:00:22.400> money<01:00:22.640> that with one another for a pot of money that with one another for a pot of money that belongs<01:00:23.240> to<01:00:23.320> the<01:00:23.480> entire<01:00:24.440> community. belongs to the entire community. belongs to the entire community. And And And what<01:00:28.640> I<01:00:28.760> heard<01:00:29.120> last<01:00:29.400> night<01:00:29.600> at<01:00:29.680> the<01:00:29.800> select what I heard last night at the select what I heard last night at the select board’s<01:00:30.400> meeting<01:00:30.800> was<01:00:31.320> perhaps<01:00:31.840> the board’s meeting was perhaps the board’s meeting was perhaps the beginning<01:00:32.840> of<01:00:33.080> moving<01:00:33.560> in<01:00:33.720> a<01:00:33.760> direction<01:00:34.720> of

1:00:34 beginning of moving in a direction of beginning of moving in a direction of putting<01:00:35.240> forward<01:00:35.640> a<01:00:35.720> plan putting forward a plan putting forward a plan that<01:00:37.920> if<01:00:38.120> there<01:00:38.280> was<01:00:38.480> a<01:00:38.560> commitment<01:00:39.240> that<01:00:39.440> the that if there was a commitment that the that if there was a commitment that the schools,<01:00:40.560> if<01:00:40.840> the<01:00:41.000> committee<01:00:41.520> deliberates schools, if the committee deliberates schools, if the committee deliberates and<01:00:42.280> decides<01:00:43.000> it<01:00:43.160> wants<01:00:43.360> to<01:00:43.440> go<01:00:43.600> in<01:00:43.720> that and decides it wants to go in that and decides it wants to go in that direction,<01:00:44.600> could<01:00:44.920> participate<01:00:45.760> in<01:00:45.880> that, direction, could participate in that, direction, could participate in that, actually<01:00:47.480> gives<01:00:47.760> the<01:00:47.920> opportunity<01:00:48.600> I<01:00:48.800> want, actually gives the opportunity I want, actually gives the opportunity I want, which<01:00:49.320> is<01:00:49.440> to<01:00:49.600> advocate<01:00:50.160> for<01:00:50.320> what<01:00:50.480> we<01:00:50.680> need<01:00:51.040> in which is to advocate for what we need in which is to advocate for what we need in our<01:00:51.280> schools<01:00:52.160> as<01:00:52.360> opposed<01:00:53.000> to our schools as opposed to our schools as opposed to having<01:00:55.720> a<01:00:55.840> fight<01:00:56.440> for<01:00:56.560> the<01:00:56.680> next<01:00:57.080> two<01:00:57.280> months having a fight for the next two months having a fight for the next two months for<01:00:58.520> a<01:00:58.640> level<01:00:59.080> funded<01:01:00.160> budget<01:01:00.680> that<01:01:00.880> I<01:01:00.920> don't for a level funded budget that I don’t for a level funded budget that I don’t think<01:01:01.360> any<01:01:01.600> of<01:01:01.720> us<01:01:01.880> sit<01:01:02.040> here<01:01:02.240> thinking think any of us sit here thinking think any of us sit here thinking you<01:01:04.000> know,<01:01:04.480> sets<01:01:04.760> our<01:01:04.880> schools<01:01:05.360> up<01:01:05.640> for<01:01:06.440> the you know, sets our schools up for the you know, sets our schools up for the success<01:01:07.000> that<01:01:07.200> we<01:01:07.320> want<01:01:07.520> to<01:01:07.560> see.<01:01:08.400> So, success that we want to see. So, success that we want to see. So, while<01:01:09.840> I<01:01:09.960> do<01:01:10.240> not<01:01:10.760> want<01:01:11.280> to<01:01:11.440> ask<01:01:11.760> the while I do not want to ask the while I do not want to ask the superintendent<01:01:12.920> and<01:01:13.120> Mike<01:01:13.440> to<01:01:13.560> make superintendent and Mike to make superintendent and Mike to make additional<01:01:14.520> cuts,<01:01:15.000> I<01:01:15.760> struggle<01:01:16.280> to<01:01:16.440> see<01:01:16.600> a additional cuts, I struggle to see a additional cuts, I struggle to see a path<01:01:17.000> forward<01:01:17.440> when<01:01:17.560> we<01:01:17.760> don't<01:01:18.240> do<01:01:18.400> that.

1:01:20 path forward when we don’t do that. path forward when we don’t do that. But<01:01:20.600> also, But also, But also, I<01:01:23.000> think<01:01:23.360> that<01:01:24.280> the<01:01:24.360> points<01:01:24.680> Mike<01:01:24.960> made I think that the points Mike made I think that the points Mike made tonight<01:01:25.600> were<01:01:25.760> well<01:01:26.000> taken,<01:01:26.560> and<01:01:26.680> I<01:01:26.760> think tonight were well taken, and I think tonight were well taken, and I think that<01:01:27.120> there<01:01:27.320> is<01:01:27.600> work<01:01:27.880> that<01:01:28.000> needs<01:01:28.240> to<01:01:28.320> be<01:01:28.440> done that there is work that needs to be done that there is work that needs to be done to<01:01:28.960> make<01:01:29.360> sure<01:01:29.840> that<01:01:30.000> the<01:01:30.160> number<01:01:31.040> that<01:01:31.240> we<01:01:31.400> do to make sure that the number that we do to make sure that the number that we do move<01:01:32.800> forward<01:01:33.160> with move forward with move forward with is<01:01:34.520> accurate.<01:01:35.000> We<01:01:35.320> owe<01:01:35.520> that<01:01:35.880> to<01:01:35.960> the<01:01:36.080> people is accurate. We owe that to the people is accurate. We owe that to the people whose<01:01:36.760> jobs<01:01:37.240> we<01:01:37.360> are<01:01:37.440> talking<01:01:37.840> about<01:01:38.160> to<01:01:38.280> make whose jobs we are talking about to make whose jobs we are talking about to make sure<01:01:39.480> that<01:01:39.720> the<01:01:39.840> dollar<01:01:40.320> amount<01:01:40.880> is<01:01:41.240> correct, sure that the dollar amount is correct, sure that the dollar amount is correct, and<01:01:42.000> it's<01:01:42.160> not<01:01:42.440> an<01:01:42.600> estimate<01:01:43.120> on<01:01:43.240> an<01:01:43.440> estimate, and it’s not an estimate on an estimate, and it’s not an estimate on an estimate, you<01:01:44.840> know,<01:01:45.040> on<01:01:45.240> a<01:01:45.440> percentage<01:01:46.080> that<01:01:46.320> we're<01:01:46.480> not you know, on a percentage that we’re not you know, on a percentage that we’re not totally<01:01:47.480> sure<01:01:47.800> about.<01:01:48.240> So, totally sure about. So, totally sure about. So, you<01:01:49.680> know,<01:01:50.080> the<01:01:50.240> clock<01:01:50.560> is<01:01:50.680> ticking,<01:01:51.480> but you know, the clock is ticking, but you know, the clock is ticking, but I<01:01:52.760> don't<01:01:53.000> see<01:01:53.160> how<01:01:53.360> we<01:01:53.480> move<01:01:53.680> forward<01:01:54.040> without I don’t see how we move forward without I don’t see how we move forward without doing<01:01:54.800> that<01:01:55.000> work<01:01:55.200> as<01:01:55.360> part<01:01:55.600> of<01:01:55.680> the<01:01:56.320> process. doing that work as part of the process. doing that work as part of the process. Mike<01:01:57.720> has<01:01:57.840> his<01:01:58.040> hand<01:01:58.320> up,<01:01:58.480> by<01:01:58.600> the<01:01:58.680> way.<01:01:58.800> I Mike has his hand up, by the way. I Mike has his hand up, by the way. I don’t<01:01:59.040> know. don’t know. don’t know. When<01:02:00.760> is<01:02:00.840> my<01:02:00.920> turn?

1:02:05 All right. So, I All right. So, I I<01:02:05.720> got<01:02:05.880> two<01:02:06.080> comments.<01:02:06.720> The<01:02:06.840> first<01:02:07.120> one<01:02:07.200> is<01:02:07.320> to I got two comments. The first one is to I got two comments. The first one is to the<01:02:07.480> committee,<01:02:08.040> and<01:02:08.200> I<01:02:08.280> may the committee, and I may the committee, and I may regret<01:02:10.680> this<01:02:11.080> in<01:02:11.200> the<01:02:11.280> future, regret this in the future, regret this in the future, but but but have<01:02:14.040> we<01:02:14.160> considered<01:02:14.600> bringing<01:02:14.880> the<01:02:14.960> benefits have we considered bringing the benefits have we considered bringing the benefits into<01:02:15.840> our<01:02:16.040> budget?<01:02:16.760> Because<01:02:17.720> at<01:02:17.840> that<01:02:18.160> point, into our budget? Because at that point, into our budget? Because at that point, we’re<01:02:18.560> pushing<01:02:18.840> this<01:02:19.160> hours, we’re pushing this hours, we’re pushing this hours, and<01:02:20.360> we<01:02:20.480> can<01:02:20.600> reduce<01:02:21.120> that<01:02:21.320> cushion,<01:02:22.280> and<01:02:22.400> if and we can reduce that cushion, and if and we can reduce that cushion, and if we<01:02:22.640> need<01:02:22.760> to<01:02:22.880> cut<01:02:23.040> somewhere<01:02:23.480> else,<01:02:23.760> we<01:02:23.960> will, we need to cut somewhere else, we will, we need to cut somewhere else, we will, but<01:02:24.360> it's<01:02:24.600> on<01:02:24.920> our<01:02:25.160> side. but it’s on our side. but it’s on our side. And<01:02:27.000> the<01:02:27.160> other<01:02:27.440> part<01:02:27.880> of<01:02:28.000> that<01:02:28.960> is<01:02:29.120> the And the other part of that is the And the other part of that is the comment<01:02:29.560> that<01:02:29.680> was<01:02:29.840> made<01:02:30.320> about comment that was made about comment that was made about revolving<01:02:32.320> funds,<01:02:33.000> and<01:02:33.120> charging<01:02:33.560> benefits revolving funds, and charging benefits revolving funds, and charging benefits to<01:02:34.120> revolving<01:02:34.640> funds.<01:02:35.480> If<01:02:35.640> the<01:02:35.760> benefits<01:02:36.160> are to revolving funds. If the benefits are to revolving funds. If the benefits are sitting<01:02:36.480> on<01:02:36.600> the<01:02:36.720> town<01:02:37.200> side, sitting on the town side, sitting on the town side, but<01:02:39.000> on<01:02:39.160> paper,<01:02:39.560> they're<01:02:39.680> coming<01:02:39.960> over<01:02:40.120> to<01:02:40.240> us but on paper, they’re coming over to us but on paper, they’re coming over to us as<01:02:40.560> a<01:02:40.880> as<01:02:41.040> part<01:02:41.240> of<01:02:41.320> a<01:02:41.360> percentage<01:02:41.880> formula. as a as part of a percentage formula. as a as part of a percentage formula. If<01:02:44.600> I<01:02:44.680> charge<01:02:45.000> benefits<01:02:45.480> off<01:02:45.840> to<01:02:46.000> a<01:02:46.080> revolving If I charge benefits off to a revolving If I charge benefits off to a revolving fund,<01:02:47.200> as<01:02:47.360> I'm<01:02:47.440> now<01:02:47.640> told<01:02:47.880> we<01:02:48.000> need<01:02:48.240> to<01:02:48.360> do<01:02:48.760> by fund, as I’m now told we need to do by fund, as I’m now told we need to do by the<01:02:49.080> by<01:02:49.240> law, the by law, the by law, how<01:02:50.600> does<01:02:50.760> that<01:02:51.040> benefit<01:02:51.480> money<01:02:51.680> that's<01:02:51.840> been

1:02:51 how does that benefit money that’s been how does that benefit money that’s been reduced<01:02:52.360> on<01:02:52.480> the<01:02:52.640> town<01:02:53.080> side<01:02:53.360> get<01:02:53.520> back<01:02:53.720> into reduced on the town side get back into reduced on the town side get back into the<01:02:54.160> our<01:02:54.480> general<01:02:54.840> fund<01:02:55.160> budget?<01:02:56.160> Cuz<01:02:56.360> I'm<01:02:56.480> not the our general fund budget? Cuz I’m not the our general fund budget? Cuz I’m not sure<01:02:56.920> that<01:02:57.040> it's<01:02:57.160> going<01:02:57.400> to.<01:02:57.520> So,<01:02:57.680> if<01:02:57.760> the sure that it’s going to. So, if the sure that it’s going to. So, if the benefits<01:02:58.360> sit<01:02:58.520> on<01:02:58.760> our<01:02:58.960> side, benefits sit on our side, benefits sit on our side, I<01:03:00.360> can<01:03:00.520> ensure<01:03:01.000> that I can ensure that I can ensure that if<01:03:02.160> I<01:03:02.240> charge<01:03:02.520> benefits<01:03:02.960> off<01:03:03.240> to<01:03:03.440> the if I charge benefits off to the if I charge benefits off to the revolving<01:03:04.560> fund,<01:03:05.040> that revolving fund, that revolving fund, that relieves<01:03:06.800> some<01:03:07.000> money<01:03:07.320> in<01:03:07.560> the<01:03:07.680> general<01:03:08.000> fund relieves some money in the general fund relieves some money in the general fund for<01:03:08.560> us,<01:03:08.800> not<01:03:09.040> for<01:03:09.240> the<01:03:09.360> town. for us, not for the town. for us, not for the town. So,<01:03:10.440> if<01:03:10.600> we<01:03:10.680> have<01:03:10.800> to<01:03:10.920> cut<01:03:11.120> 1.5,<01:03:11.720> and<01:03:11.960> I'm<01:03:12.040> not So, if we have to cut 1.5, and I’m not So, if we have to cut 1.5, and I’m not convinced<01:03:12.600> that<01:03:12.680> 1.5<01:03:13.160> is<01:03:13.240> still<01:03:13.400> the<01:03:13.480> number. convinced that 1.5 is still the number. convinced that 1.5 is still the number. I<01:03:13.880> believe<01:03:14.160> that<01:03:14.360> we<01:03:14.480> still<01:03:14.680> have<01:03:14.760> a<01:03:14.800> lot<01:03:15.080> of I believe that we still have a lot of I believe that we still have a lot of work<01:03:15.320> to<01:03:15.400> do. work to do. work to do. Um Um Um how<01:03:17.840> do<01:03:18.240> we<01:03:18.720> get<01:03:19.400> to<01:03:19.600> ensure how do we get to ensure how do we get to ensure that<01:03:21.320> we're<01:03:21.400> not<01:03:21.640> working<01:03:21.920> on<01:03:22.160> ratios<01:03:22.920> is that we’re not working on ratios is that we’re not working on ratios is you<01:03:24.520> just<01:03:24.720> said,<01:03:25.200> ratios<01:03:25.920> of<01:03:26.080> numbers<01:03:26.560> versus you just said, ratios of numbers versus you just said, ratios of numbers versus actual<01:03:27.400> venom.<01:03:28.320> Cuz<01:03:28.400> I<01:03:28.440> think<01:03:28.760> we<01:03:29.360> do<01:03:29.480> a<01:03:29.560> pretty actual venom. Cuz I think we do a pretty actual venom. Cuz I think we do a pretty good<01:03:29.920> job<01:03:30.200> of<01:03:30.400> having<01:03:30.760> data<01:03:31.160> and<01:03:31.280> analyzing good job of having data and analyzing good job of having data and analyzing data<01:03:32.040> and<01:03:32.480> we're<01:03:32.680> one<01:03:32.920> department.<01:03:33.480> I<01:03:33.520> know data and we’re one department. I know data and we’re one department. I know the<01:03:33.800> town<01:03:34.040> has the town has the town has seven<01:03:35.520> or<01:03:35.640> eight<01:03:35.840> departments<01:03:36.360> and<01:03:36.480> I<01:03:36.560> get seven or eight departments and I get seven or eight departments and I get it’s<01:03:36.880> a<01:03:36.960> much<01:03:37.360> different<01:03:37.840> animal<01:03:38.200> on<01:03:38.280> that

1:03:38 it’s a much different animal on that it’s a much different animal on that side. side. side. I<01:03:39.520> would<01:03:39.640> just<01:03:39.840> feel<01:03:40.000> more<01:03:40.200> comfortable<01:03:40.560> that I would just feel more comfortable that I would just feel more comfortable that if<01:03:40.840> we're<01:03:41.000> going<01:03:41.120> to<01:03:41.200> have<01:03:41.400> to<01:03:41.480> make<01:03:41.680> these if we’re going to have to make these if we’re going to have to make these cuts<01:03:42.080> that<01:03:42.160> impact<01:03:42.560> lives,<01:03:43.080> impact<01:03:43.400> impact cuts that impact lives, impact impact cuts that impact lives, impact impact our<01:03:44.080> our<01:03:44.240> students<01:03:45.320> we<01:03:45.400> got<01:03:45.600> lives,<01:03:45.920> our our our students we got lives, our our our students we got lives, our students<01:03:46.800> education,<01:03:47.920> we<01:03:48.080> should<01:03:48.200> have students education, we should have students education, we should have control<01:03:48.840> over<01:03:49.080> what<01:03:49.240> we're

1:03:54 The other point is to the The other point is to the everybody. everybody. everybody. One<01:03:56.240> of<01:03:56.280> the<01:03:56.360> big<01:03:56.560> numbers<01:03:56.920> on<01:03:57.080> here<01:03:57.400> is<01:03:57.560> the One of the big numbers on here is the One of the big numbers on here is the pension.<01:03:58.640> This<01:03:58.840> is<01:03:58.960> something<01:03:59.360> that<01:03:59.600> is<01:03:59.760> not pension. This is something that is not pension. This is something that is not any<01:04:00.880> of<01:04:01.000> our<01:04:01.200> fault.<01:04:01.480> This<01:04:01.640> is<01:04:01.760> goes<01:04:02.000> back<01:04:02.240> 30 any of our fault. This is goes back 30 any of our fault. This is goes back 30 or<01:04:02.760> 40<01:04:03.160> years<01:04:03.560> from<01:04:03.720> people<01:04:04.000> who<01:04:04.120> retired or 40 years from people who retired or 40 years from people who retired and<01:04:05.720> they and they and they not<01:04:06.840> to<01:04:06.920> any<01:04:07.040> fault<01:04:07.280> of<01:04:07.360> theirs,<01:04:07.640> but<01:04:07.760> they not to any fault of theirs, but they not to any fault of theirs, but they weren’t<01:04:08.080> contributing<01:04:08.520> 11%<01:04:09.200> to<01:04:09.280> the<01:04:09.360> pension weren’t contributing 11% to the pension weren’t contributing 11% to the pension like<01:04:09.880> we<01:04:10.000> are<01:04:10.120> now.<01:04:10.640> They<01:04:10.760> were<01:04:10.840> contributing like we are now. They were contributing like we are now. They were contributing a<01:04:11.360> lot<01:04:11.680> less. a lot less. a lot less. 5<01:04:13.240> 7<01:04:13.760> 6%.<01:04:15.120> We<01:04:15.320> are<01:04:15.400> now<01:04:15.600> making<01:04:15.920> up<01:04:16.040> that<01:04:16.280> debt. 5 7 6%. We are now making up that debt. 5 7 6%. We are now making up that debt. So,<01:04:17.080> 2.8<01:04:17.920> million<01:04:18.840> our So, 2.8 million our So, 2.8 million our split<01:04:21.200> number<01:04:22.280> is<01:04:22.440> from<01:04:22.800> years<01:04:23.200> and<01:04:23.320> years<01:04:23.560> ago split number is from years and years ago split number is from years and years ago of<01:04:24.200> of<01:04:24.400> debt.<01:04:24.680> It's<01:04:24.840> it's<01:04:25.200> and<01:04:25.360> and<01:04:25.720> you<01:04:25.840> guys of of debt. It’s it’s and and you guys of of debt. It’s it’s and and you guys can<01:04:26.160> correct<01:04:26.400> me<01:04:26.440> if<01:04:26.560> I'm<01:04:26.680> wrong,<01:04:26.880> but<01:04:27.000> that's can correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s can correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s my<01:04:27.400> understanding. my understanding. my understanding. It’s<01:04:29.360> a<01:04:29.400> little<01:04:29.560> bit<01:04:29.680> more<01:04:29.840> complicated<01:04:30.320> than It’s a little bit more complicated than It’s a little bit more complicated than that,<01:04:30.760> too,<01:04:31.000> right?<01:04:31.240> Because<01:04:31.680> the<01:04:32.240> the<01:04:32.600> the that, too, right? Because the the the that, too, right? Because the the the asset<01:04:33.200> base<01:04:33.480> that<01:04:33.600> is<01:04:33.720> funding<01:04:34.120> that<01:04:34.320> pension asset base that is funding that pension asset base that is funding that pension is<01:04:34.960> also<01:04:35.200> not<01:04:35.440> keeping<01:04:35.680> up<01:04:36.000> every<01:04:36.320> year<01:04:36.480> with is also not keeping up every year with is also not keeping up every year with health<01:04:36.880> care<01:04:37.000> expenses.<01:04:37.600> So,<01:04:37.760> we're health care expenses. So, we’re health care expenses. So, we’re projecting<01:04:38.560> a<01:04:38.600> liability<01:04:39.680> long<01:04:40.160> into<01:04:40.440> the

1:04:40 projecting a liability long into the projecting a liability long into the future.<01:04:41.240> You<01:04:41.360> have<01:04:41.480> an<01:04:41.600> asset<01:04:42.560> base<01:04:42.920> that<01:04:43.080> is future. You have an asset base that is future. You have an asset base that is helping<01:04:43.760> to<01:04:43.920> fund<01:04:44.200> it.<01:04:44.360> You<01:04:44.560> have<01:04:45.000> inputs helping to fund it. You have inputs helping to fund it. You have inputs coming<01:04:45.840> from<01:04:46.040> people<01:04:46.320> contributing.<01:04:47.280> You coming from people contributing. You coming from people contributing. You have<01:04:47.560> money<01:04:47.880> coming<01:04:48.240> out.<01:04:48.760> It<01:04:48.960> is<01:04:49.200> it's<01:04:49.520> very have money coming out. It is it’s very have money coming out. It is it’s very complicated. complicated. complicated. » But<01:04:51.400> it's<01:04:51.560> from<01:04:52.000> it's<01:04:52.240> from<01:04:52.560> it's<01:04:52.800> not » But it’s from it’s from it’s not » But it’s from it’s from it’s not anything<01:04:53.360> that's<01:04:53.720> resolved<01:04:54.160> in<01:04:54.240> the<01:04:54.320> last<01:04:54.600> 5 anything that’s resolved in the last 5 anything that’s resolved in the last 5 years. years. years. Right.<01:04:56.360> But<01:04:56.520> it<01:04:56.680> is<01:04:56.840> also<01:04:57.200> there<01:04:57.440> is<01:04:57.600> a Right. But it is also there is a Right. But it is also there is a component<01:04:58.320> from<01:04:58.640> recurrent<01:04:59.400> employees<01:04:59.960> that component from recurrent employees that component from recurrent employees that are<01:05:00.200> also<01:05:00.920> contributing.<01:05:01.960> But<01:05:02.320> but<01:05:02.520> to<01:05:02.600> your are also contributing. But but to your are also contributing. But but to your point,<01:05:03.080> it<01:05:03.240> is<01:05:03.720> it<01:05:03.880> is<01:05:04.040> a<01:05:04.120> legacy<01:05:04.600> liability point, it is it is a legacy liability point, it is it is a legacy liability for<01:05:05.480> sure.<01:05:06.120> It<01:05:06.240> is<01:05:06.360> a<01:05:06.440> legacy<01:05:06.800> liability<01:05:07.880> from for sure. It is a legacy liability from for sure. It is a legacy liability from you<01:05:08.680> know,<01:05:08.920> it<01:05:09.440> it's<01:05:09.760> but<01:05:09.960> it<01:05:10.120> it's<01:05:10.600> it<01:05:10.760> is<01:05:10.920> a you know, it it’s but it it’s it is a you know, it it’s but it it’s it is a it’s<01:05:11.360> a<01:05:11.440> monster.<01:05:12.080> Pensions<01:05:12.560> are<01:05:12.640> a<01:05:12.680> monster, it’s a monster. Pensions are a monster, it’s a monster. Pensions are a monster, so<01:05:13.520> to<01:05:13.640> speak.<01:05:14.000> And<01:05:14.680> but<01:05:15.240> but<01:05:15.480> it<01:05:15.720> but<01:05:15.920> in<01:05:16.040> any so to speak. And but but it but in any so to speak. And but but it but in any event,<01:05:16.600> it<01:05:16.720> is<01:05:16.880> still<01:05:17.400> a event, it is still a event, it is still a liability<01:05:18.960> that's<01:05:19.200> been<01:05:19.400> funded<01:05:19.960> or<01:05:20.080> that's liability that’s been funded or that’s liability that’s been funded or that’s been<01:05:20.480> created<01:05:21.080> by<01:05:21.480> school<01:05:21.800> and<01:05:21.920> town been created by school and town been created by school and town employees,<01:05:23.200> you<01:05:23.320> know,<01:05:23.560> over<01:05:23.800> the<01:05:23.920> years.<01:05:24.400> And employees, you know, over the years. And employees, you know, over the years. And so so so » If<01:05:25.600> I<01:05:25.640> could<01:05:25.760> just<01:05:25.880> make<01:05:26.040> one<01:05:26.160> comment,<01:05:26.560> Mike,

1:05:26 » If I could just make one comment, Mike, » If I could just make one comment, Mike, it<01:05:26.920> would<01:05:27.240> I<01:05:27.280> mean<01:05:27.440> again,<01:05:27.680> I<01:05:27.840> I<01:05:27.880> don't<01:05:28.040> know it would I mean again, I I don’t know it would I mean again, I I don’t know the the the uh uh uh how<01:05:30.280> realistic<01:05:30.680> it<01:05:30.760> is<01:05:31.080> to<01:05:31.200> think<01:05:31.360> this<01:05:31.480> will how realistic it is to think this will how realistic it is to think this will be<01:05:31.680> done,<01:05:32.440> you<01:05:32.520> know,<01:05:32.880> before<01:05:33.560> town<01:05:33.760> meeting, be done, you know, before town meeting, be done, you know, before town meeting, but<01:05:34.560> to<01:05:34.640> take<01:05:34.880> a<01:05:34.920> look<01:05:35.120> at<01:05:35.240> those<01:05:35.640> pension but to take a look at those pension but to take a look at those pension numbers<01:05:36.200> cuz<01:05:36.920> correct<01:05:37.160> me<01:05:37.200> if<01:05:37.280> I'm<01:05:37.400> wrong,<01:05:38.280> the numbers cuz correct me if I’m wrong, the numbers cuz correct me if I’m wrong, the majority<01:05:38.880> of<01:05:38.960> the<01:05:39.080> employees<01:05:39.720> on<01:05:39.840> the<01:05:39.960> school majority of the employees on the school majority of the employees on the school side<01:05:41.320> are<01:05:41.680> are<01:05:41.840> teachers<01:05:42.160> and<01:05:42.240> administrators side are are teachers and administrators side are are teachers and administrators that<01:05:42.920> are<01:05:43.000> in<01:05:43.120> the that are in the that are in the in<01:05:44.400> the<01:05:44.680> in<01:05:44.800> the<01:05:44.920> state<01:05:45.360> pension<01:05:45.640> that<01:05:45.760> this in the in the state pension that this in the in the state pension that this town<01:05:46.320> does<01:05:46.440> not<01:05:46.600> contribute<01:05:47.040> to. town does not contribute to. town does not contribute to. And<01:05:48.040> it's<01:05:48.240> the<01:05:48.640> non<01:05:49.800> um And it’s the non um And it’s the non um you<01:05:50.520> know,<01:05:50.600> it's<01:05:50.720> our<01:05:50.840> others<01:05:51.080> I<01:05:51.120> think<01:05:51.280> it's you know, it’s our others I think it’s you know, it’s our others I think it’s the<01:05:51.640> you<01:05:51.720> know,<01:05:51.840> like<01:05:52.040> the<01:05:52.360> food<01:05:52.600> service, the you know, like the food service, the you know, like the food service, custodians,<01:05:54.000> I<01:05:54.040> mean<01:05:54.160> it's<01:05:54.680> bus<01:05:54.840> drivers. custodians, I mean it’s bus drivers. custodians, I mean it’s bus drivers. They’re They’re They’re on<01:05:56.720> the<01:05:56.800> town<01:05:57.040> pension<01:05:57.320> side,<01:05:57.520> but<01:05:57.640> it<01:05:57.720> would on the town pension side, but it would on the town pension side, but it would seem<01:05:58.720> to<01:05:58.840> me<01:05:58.960> that<01:05:59.120> the<01:05:59.440> town<01:05:59.760> would<01:05:59.880> have<01:06:00.000> a seem to me that the town would have a seem to me that the town would have a greater<01:06:00.320> percentage<01:06:00.760> of<01:06:00.840> employees.<01:06:01.680> It greater percentage of employees. It greater percentage of employees. It does.<01:06:02.400> in<01:06:02.480> the<01:06:02.600> town<01:06:02.960> pension. does. in the town pension. does. in the town pension. Yeah,<01:06:04.120> I<01:06:04.200> mean<01:06:04.360> like<01:06:04.560> I<01:06:04.600> said,<01:06:04.840> these<01:06:05.000> aren't Yeah, I mean like I said, these aren’t Yeah, I mean like I said, these aren’t my<01:06:05.440> numbers.<01:06:05.920> I<01:06:05.960> didn't<01:06:06.440> deep<01:06:06.800> analyze<01:06:07.280> this. my numbers. I didn’t deep analyze this. my numbers. I didn’t deep analyze this. I<01:06:07.560> didn't<01:06:08.120> I<01:06:08.240> asked<01:06:08.520> Alicia<01:06:08.920> and<01:06:09.000> her<01:06:09.160> team<01:06:09.440> to I didn’t I asked Alicia and her team to I didn’t I asked Alicia and her team to do<01:06:09.720> it,<01:06:10.120> so<01:06:10.320> I<01:06:10.400> think<01:06:10.560> they<01:06:10.680> need<01:06:10.920> to<01:06:11.600> justify

1:06:12 do it, so I think they need to justify do it, so I think they need to justify it<01:06:12.320> all<01:06:12.520> to<01:06:12.640> Mike,<01:06:12.960> I<01:06:13.040> guess,<01:06:13.400> but it all to Mike, I guess, but it all to Mike, I guess, but I<01:06:14.640> will<01:06:14.840> say<01:06:15.040> that<01:06:15.360> that<01:06:15.680> seems<01:06:16.040> to<01:06:16.160> be<01:06:16.400> correct I will say that that seems to be correct I will say that that seems to be correct in<01:06:17.080> what<01:06:17.200> I'm<01:06:17.320> looking<01:06:17.600> at<01:06:17.800> because<01:06:18.040> it<01:06:18.160> says in what I’m looking at because it says in what I’m looking at because it says the<01:06:19.320> active<01:06:19.720> life<01:06:19.960> insurance<01:06:20.680> percentage the active life insurance percentage the active life insurance percentage schools<01:06:21.560> is<01:06:21.680> 66,<01:06:22.400> but<01:06:22.520> then<01:06:22.680> the<01:06:22.760> pension<01:06:23.120> is schools is 66, but then the pension is schools is 66, but then the pension is pension<01:06:23.840> is<01:06:23.960> only<01:06:24.200> 39.<01:06:24.960> So<01:06:25.760> Yeah. pension is only 39. So Yeah. pension is only 39. So Yeah. » it<01:06:26.120> seems<01:06:26.400> to<01:06:26.480> be<01:06:26.600> a<01:06:26.680> shift<01:06:27.080> between<01:06:27.360> those<01:06:27.600> two » it seems to be a shift between those two » it seems to be a shift between those two lines.<01:06:28.680> And<01:06:29.160> the<01:06:29.240> way<01:06:29.440> the<01:06:29.560> way<01:06:29.680> you<01:06:29.760> can<01:06:29.880> tell lines. And the way the way you can tell lines. And the way the way you can tell is<01:06:30.160> anybody<01:06:30.480> who's<01:06:30.680> licensed<01:06:31.160> and<01:06:31.240> required is anybody who’s licensed and required is anybody who’s licensed and required to<01:06:31.640> have<01:06:31.720> a<01:06:31.760> license<01:06:32.160> by<01:06:32.320> DESI<01:06:33.360> goes<01:06:33.560> into to have a license by DESI goes into to have a license by DESI goes into MTRS. MTRS. MTRS. And<01:06:35.320> anybody<01:06:35.680> who<01:06:35.760> does<01:06:35.920> not<01:06:36.120> have<01:06:36.280> a<01:06:36.320> license, And anybody who does not have a license, And anybody who does not have a license, who’s<01:06:37.000> not<01:06:37.200> required<01:06:37.600> to<01:06:37.680> have<01:06:37.800> a<01:06:37.840> license<01:06:38.280> by who’s not required to have a license by who’s not required to have a license by DESI,<01:06:39.120> goes<01:06:39.360> into<01:06:39.520> the<01:06:39.600> town DESI, goes into the town DESI, goes into the town And<01:06:41.160> I<01:06:41.200> can<01:06:41.320> tell<01:06:41.480> you<01:06:41.560> that<01:06:41.800> out<01:06:41.960> of<01:06:42.080> our<01:06:42.200> 520 And I can tell you that out of our 520 And I can tell you that out of our 520 or<01:06:43.960> so<01:06:44.200> FTE<01:06:44.800> total, or so FTE total, or so FTE total, um<01:06:46.520> we<01:06:46.640> know<01:06:46.800> that<01:06:46.960> at<01:06:47.040> least<01:06:47.280> 300 um we know that at least 300 um we know that at least 300 five,<01:06:49.160> I<01:06:49.240> think,<01:06:49.640> are<01:06:50.200> unit<01:06:50.720> A<01:06:51.000> because<01:06:51.280> that's five, I think, are unit A because that’s five, I think, are unit A because that’s the<01:06:51.560> number<01:06:51.840> we<01:06:52.080> used<01:06:52.280> in<01:06:52.360> the<01:06:52.480> negotiations the number we used in the negotiations the number we used in the negotiations last<01:06:53.560> year,<01:06:54.160> plus<01:06:54.360> all<01:06:54.440> the<01:06:54.560> administrators, last year, plus all the administrators, last year, plus all the administrators, all<01:06:55.320> the<01:06:55.400> principals,<01:06:55.800> assistant all the principals, assistant all the principals, assistant principals,<01:06:57.160> uh<01:06:57.280> special<01:06:57.600> education<01:06:58.040> staff,

1:06:58 principals, uh special education staff, principals, uh special education staff, um<01:06:59.320> who<01:06:59.480> aren't<01:06:59.800> in<01:06:59.880> unit<01:07:00.240> A, um who aren’t in unit A, um who aren’t in unit A, um<01:07:01.480> except<01:07:01.760> John,<01:07:02.240> Julie,<01:07:02.560> and<01:07:02.640> Lisa<01:07:02.880> Marie. um except John, Julie, and Lisa Marie. um except John, Julie, and Lisa Marie. So<01:07:03.760> we're<01:07:03.960> probably<01:07:04.560> 325<01:07:05.880> to<01:07:06.000> 330<01:07:06.760> of<01:07:06.880> our<01:07:07.040> 500 So we’re probably 325 to 330 of our 500 So we’re probably 325 to 330 of our 500 and<01:07:07.880> something<01:07:08.680> in<01:07:08.880> MTRs.<01:07:09.360> So,<01:07:09.720> more<01:07:09.920> than<01:07:10.040> 50% and something in MTRs. So, more than 50% and something in MTRs. So, more than 50% are<01:07:11.560> outside<01:07:12.080> the<01:07:12.200> town. are outside the town. are outside the town. » MTRs.<01:07:13.280> Yeah.<01:07:13.800> Yeah.<01:07:14.520> Um<01:07:14.680> the<01:07:14.760> other<01:07:14.920> thing » MTRs. Yeah. Yeah. Um the other thing » MTRs. Yeah. Yeah. Um the other thing that<01:07:16.320> um that um that um I<01:07:17.400> think<01:07:17.600> that<01:07:18.040> again,<01:07:18.480> on<01:07:18.600> the<01:07:18.640> 50,000-foot I think that again, on the 50,000-foot I think that again, on the 50,000-foot level,<01:07:19.800> and<01:07:20.360> I'm<01:07:20.520> not<01:07:20.680> going<01:07:20.800> to<01:07:20.880> be<01:07:21.000> here,<01:07:21.200> but level, and I’m not going to be here, but level, and I’m not going to be here, but if<01:07:22.200> the<01:07:22.400> decision<01:07:22.840> is<01:07:22.960> made<01:07:23.240> between<01:07:23.520> the<01:07:23.640> two if the decision is made between the two if the decision is made between the two committees<01:07:24.360> and<01:07:24.480> there's<01:07:24.640> an<01:07:24.720> agreement<01:07:25.440> that committees and there’s an agreement that committees and there’s an agreement that the<01:07:26.080> the<01:07:26.160> benefits<01:07:26.680> are<01:07:26.760> going<01:07:26.960> to<01:07:27.040> come<01:07:27.200> over the the benefits are going to come over the the benefits are going to come over um<01:07:29.040> OPEB<01:07:29.440> and<01:07:29.560> the<01:07:29.800> health<01:07:30.040> insurance um OPEB and the health insurance um OPEB and the health insurance benefits<01:07:30.880> are<01:07:31.120> over<01:07:31.640> uh<01:07:31.680> coming<01:07:31.960> over<01:07:32.240> to<01:07:32.400> the benefits are over uh coming over to the benefits are over uh coming over to the school<01:07:33.600> side,<01:07:33.960> I<01:07:34.120> would<01:07:34.400> suggest<01:07:35.000> that<01:07:35.120> the school side, I would suggest that the school side, I would suggest that the school<01:07:35.440> committee<01:07:35.760> would<01:07:36.320> a<01:07:36.440> seat<01:07:36.720> at<01:07:36.800> that school committee would a seat at that school committee would a seat at that bargaining<01:07:37.360> table.<01:07:38.280> Um<01:07:38.760> with<01:07:39.200> those<01:07:39.520> units bargaining table. Um with those units bargaining table. Um with those units that<01:07:40.040> bargain<01:07:40.480> for<01:07:40.800> those<01:07:41.040> benefits,<01:07:41.520> because that bargain for those benefits, because that bargain for those benefits, because if<01:07:42.000> we're<01:07:42.080> going<01:07:42.200> to<01:07:42.280> be<01:07:42.400> responsible<01:07:43.120> for if we’re going to be responsible for if we’re going to be responsible for paying<01:07:43.960> them<01:07:44.120> in<01:07:44.200> our<01:07:44.320> budget,<01:07:45.160> we<01:07:45.280> ought<01:07:45.440> to

1:07:45 paying them in our budget, we ought to paying them in our budget, we ought to be<01:07:45.640> responsible<01:07:46.840> you<01:07:46.880> know,<01:07:47.160> have<01:07:47.320> a<01:07:47.360> seat<01:07:47.520> at be responsible you know, have a seat at be responsible you know, have a seat at the<01:07:47.680> table.<01:07:48.560> And<01:07:48.680> I<01:07:48.840> believe<01:07:49.400> the the table. And I believe the the table. And I believe the negotiations<01:07:50.040> are<01:07:50.080> going<01:07:50.320> on<01:07:50.840> now.<01:07:51.120> I<01:07:51.160> I negotiations are going on now. I I negotiations are going on now. I I I<01:07:52.080> think.<01:07:52.440> I'm<01:07:52.760> not<01:07:52.920> 100%<01:07:53.400> sure. I think. I’m not 100% sure. I think. I’m not 100% sure. But<01:07:55.440> that<01:07:55.600> would<01:07:55.720> be<01:07:56.000> I<01:07:56.120> would<01:07:56.320> think<01:07:56.520> that But that would be I would think that But that would be I would think that would<01:07:56.800> be<01:07:56.920> very<01:07:57.160> important.

1:08:07 Yeah, that finance committee here. Yeah, that finance committee here. » [laughter] » Does anyone on the committee have a » Does anyone on the committee have a comment<01:08:11.960> about<01:08:12.200> that?<01:08:12.480> Is<01:08:12.560> that<01:08:12.840> something comment about that? Is that something comment about that? Is that something that that that you<01:08:15.680> think<01:08:15.880> we<01:08:15.960> think<01:08:16.120> is<01:08:16.240> impo-<01:08:16.480> I<01:08:16.839> think<01:08:17.040> it's you think we think is impo- I think it’s you think we think is impo- I think it’s important.<01:08:17.640> That<01:08:17.759> makes<01:08:18.000> sense<01:08:18.319> if<01:08:18.440> it's<01:08:18.640> if important. That makes sense if it’s if important. That makes sense if it’s if it’s<01:08:19.120> something<01:08:19.480> that's<01:08:19.720> going<01:08:19.839> to<01:08:19.920> affect it’s something that’s going to affect it’s something that’s going to affect our<01:08:20.319> budget. our budget. our budget. And<01:08:22.799> it's<01:08:22.920> negotiated. And now is that something we think is And now is that something we think is realistic<01:08:28.880> as<01:08:29.000> we're<01:08:29.120> talking<01:08:29.560> 27<01:08:30.200> or<01:08:30.279> is<01:08:30.359> this realistic as we’re talking 27 or is this realistic as we’re talking 27 or is this given<01:08:31.799> that<01:08:32.319> we<01:08:32.440> have<01:08:32.560> to<01:08:32.640> take<01:08:32.960> our<01:08:33.160> you<01:08:33.279> know, given that we have to take our you know, given that we have to take our you know, have<01:08:33.880> our<01:08:34.080> union.<01:08:34.319> How<01:08:34.440> it<01:08:34.560> is.<01:08:35.240> It's<01:08:35.279> probably have our union. How it is. It’s probably have our union. How it is. It’s probably not<01:08:35.759> a<01:08:36.160> It<01:08:36.240> sounds<01:08:36.520> like<01:08:36.759> it<01:08:36.880> makes<01:08:37.120> sense<01:08:37.359> for not a It sounds like it makes sense for not a It sounds like it makes sense for us<01:08:37.600> to<01:08:37.720> do.<01:08:38.520> I'm<01:08:38.640> not<01:08:38.799> sure<01:08:38.960> if<01:08:39.080> it<01:08:39.160> makes<01:08:39.400> sense us to do. I’m not sure if it makes sense us to do. I’m not sure if it makes sense to<01:08:39.720> do<01:08:39.880> right<01:08:40.080> now<01:08:40.319> is<01:08:40.400> my<01:08:40.560> question. to do right now is my question. to do right now is my question. Or<01:08:42.240> should<01:08:42.440> we<01:08:42.520> do<01:08:42.720> it<01:08:42.799> now?<01:08:43.520> Cuz<01:08:43.600> I'm<01:08:43.799> I'm Or should we do it now? Cuz I’m I’m Or should we do it now? Cuz I’m I’m hearing hearing hearing Please Please Please let<01:08:47.000> me<01:08:47.080> know<01:08:47.200> if<01:08:47.279> I'm<01:08:47.359> misinterpreting let me know if I’m misinterpreting let me know if I’m misinterpreting things.<01:08:48.200> At<01:08:48.279> least<01:08:48.480> I've<01:08:48.560> heard<01:08:48.839> several things. At least I’ve heard several things. At least I’ve heard several people<01:08:49.520> say<01:08:49.799> that people say that people say that we<01:08:51.040> probably<01:08:51.400> need<01:08:51.640> to<01:08:51.720> put<01:08:51.920> together,<01:08:52.600> right,

1:08:52 we probably need to put together, right, we probably need to put together, right, what’s<01:08:53.120> more<01:08:53.640> of<01:08:53.839> a what’s more of a what’s more of a balanced<01:08:55.440> budget<01:08:56.080> that balanced budget that balanced budget that is<01:08:57.520> an<01:08:57.640> additional<01:08:58.120> 1.5<01:08:58.799> million<01:08:59.160> less<01:08:59.400> than is an additional 1.5 million less than is an additional 1.5 million less than what<01:08:59.640> we<01:08:59.759> have<01:08:59.960> right<01:09:00.160> now. what we have right now. what we have right now. I<01:09:01.920> don't<01:09:02.120> agree<01:09:02.359> with<01:09:02.480> that.<01:09:02.839> I<01:09:02.920> mean,<01:09:03.160> it I don’t agree with that. I mean, it I don’t agree with that. I mean, it correct<01:09:03.560> and<01:09:03.720> Mike<01:09:04.080> doesn't<01:09:04.440> seem<01:09:04.600> to<01:09:04.680> agree correct and Mike doesn’t seem to agree correct and Mike doesn’t seem to agree with<01:09:05.000> that<01:09:05.319> number<01:09:05.680> either.<01:09:06.000> So,<01:09:06.400> I<01:09:06.480> don't with that number either. So, I don’t with that number either. So, I don’t think<01:09:07.080> that<01:09:07.200> we<01:09:07.279> should<01:09:07.400> be<01:09:07.560> throwing<01:09:07.880> a think that we should be throwing a think that we should be throwing a number<01:09:08.160> out.<01:09:08.240> I<01:09:08.319> think<01:09:08.480> we<01:09:08.600> probably<01:09:08.960> should number out. I think we probably should number out. I think we probably should try<01:09:09.319> to<01:09:09.880> button<01:09:10.160> up<01:09:10.279> what<01:09:10.400> that<01:09:10.560> number<01:09:10.839> is<01:09:11.240> and try to button up what that number is and try to button up what that number is and then<01:09:11.839> come<01:09:11.960> back<01:09:12.200> and<01:09:12.279> decide.<01:09:13.080> Okay.<01:09:13.520> I<01:09:13.560> think then come back and decide. Okay. I think then come back and decide. Okay. I think I<01:09:13.720> think<01:09:13.839> I<01:09:13.880> think<01:09:14.000> it's<01:09:14.319> I<01:09:14.359> think<01:09:14.520> it's<01:09:14.600> more I think I think it’s I think it’s more I think I think it’s I think it’s more complicated<01:09:15.359> than<01:09:15.560> that.<01:09:16.080> Cuz<01:09:16.240> you<01:09:16.319> have<01:09:16.440> to complicated than that. Cuz you have to complicated than that. Cuz you have to cut<01:09:16.720> 1.5<01:09:17.279> million. cut 1.5 million. cut 1.5 million. The<01:09:19.600> reality<01:09:19.960> is<01:09:20.080> 80%<01:09:20.560> of<01:09:20.640> our<01:09:20.720> budget<01:09:21.080> is The reality is 80% of our budget is The reality is 80% of our budget is salaries.<01:09:21.960> So,<01:09:22.319> in<01:09:22.480> order<01:09:22.640> to<01:09:22.720> get<01:09:22.839> to<01:09:22.960> 1.5, salaries. So, in order to get to 1.5, salaries. So, in order to get to 1.5, you’re<01:09:23.440> going<01:09:23.560> to<01:09:23.600> have<01:09:23.759> to<01:09:23.839> have<01:09:24.000> some you’re going to have to have some you’re going to have to have some reduction<01:09:24.640> in<01:09:24.759> force. reduction in force. reduction in force. With With With pink<01:09:27.839> slips,<01:09:28.120> whatever<01:09:28.400> you<01:09:28.480> want<01:09:28.600> to<01:09:28.680> call pink slips, whatever you want to call pink slips, whatever you want to call them. them. them. For<01:09:30.520> every<01:09:30.799> one<01:09:31.000> of<01:09:31.080> those<01:09:31.319> I<01:09:31.400> issue,<01:09:32.279> I<01:09:32.400> do For every one of those I issue, I do For every one of those I issue, I do need<01:09:32.759> to<01:09:32.880> cut<01:09:33.200> unemployment<01:09:33.880> for<01:09:33.960> those need to cut unemployment for those need to cut unemployment for those positions.<01:09:35.319> However,<01:09:36.319> I<01:09:36.400> will<01:09:36.560> likely<01:09:36.920> have positions. However, I will likely have positions. However, I will likely have some<01:09:37.319> benefit<01:09:37.720> savings<01:09:38.319> because<01:09:38.600> we<01:09:38.759> are

1:09:38 some benefit savings because we are some benefit savings because we are having<01:09:39.240> them<01:09:39.319> on<01:09:39.400> the<01:09:39.440> benefits<01:09:39.839> anymore.<01:09:40.640> So, having them on the benefits anymore. So, having them on the benefits anymore. So, there’s there’s there’s So,<01:09:41.960> that<01:09:42.200> 1.5<01:09:42.759> could<01:09:42.880> creep<01:09:43.120> up<01:09:43.200> to<01:09:43.319> 1.7,<01:09:44.200> 1.8 So, that 1.5 could creep up to 1.7, 1.8 So, that 1.5 could creep up to 1.7, 1.8 after<01:09:45.200> unemployment,<01:09:45.799> but<01:09:45.920> might<01:09:46.080> come<01:09:46.200> back after unemployment, but might come back after unemployment, but might come back down<01:09:46.600> to<01:09:46.680> 1.6<01:09:47.560> once<01:09:47.799> you<01:09:47.920> once<01:09:48.120> you<01:09:48.200> have<01:09:48.319> a down to 1.6 once you once you have a down to 1.6 once you once you have a benefit<01:09:48.720> savings. benefit savings. benefit savings. Depends<01:09:50.400> on<01:09:50.480> the<01:09:50.560> area.<01:09:50.799> An<01:09:50.920> individual<01:09:51.440> plan, Depends on the area. An individual plan, Depends on the area. An individual plan, a<01:09:51.799> family<01:09:52.200> plan.<01:09:52.920> And<01:09:53.000> so,<01:09:53.120> we<01:09:53.240> get<01:09:53.400> some a family plan. And so, we get some a family plan. And so, we get some directive<01:09:54.080> on<01:09:54.200> which<01:09:54.360> way<01:09:54.480> to<01:09:54.600> go.<01:09:55.240> We<01:09:55.400> can<01:09:55.720> say directive on which way to go. We can say directive on which way to go. We can say Yeah,<01:09:55.960> that<01:09:56.200> that's<01:09:56.440> a<01:09:56.480> good<01:09:56.720> point<01:09:57.080> because Yeah, that that’s a good point because Yeah, that that’s a good point because Alicia<01:09:58.320> had<01:09:59.160> sort<01:09:59.520> of<01:09:59.880> in<01:10:00.040> the<01:10:00.120> scenarios<01:10:01.080> on Alicia had sort of in the scenarios on Alicia had sort of in the scenarios on the<01:10:01.240> town<01:10:01.440> side,<01:10:01.680> those<01:10:01.920> exact<01:10:02.440> things the town side, those exact things the town side, those exact things unemployment.<01:10:03.600> And<01:10:03.760> I<01:10:03.840> have<01:10:04.000> mentioned<01:10:04.440> to unemployment. And I have mentioned to unemployment. And I have mentioned to her<01:10:04.800> we<01:10:05.120> Well,<01:10:05.320> do<01:10:05.440> we<01:10:05.840> understand<01:10:06.480> what<01:10:06.640> the her we Well, do we understand what the her we Well, do we understand what the schools<01:10:07.120> are<01:10:07.240> cutting<01:10:08.160> before<01:10:08.640> or<01:10:08.840> after<01:10:09.160> the schools are cutting before or after the schools are cutting before or after the 1.5<01:10:10.160> and<01:10:10.280> how<01:10:10.440> that<01:10:10.680> may<01:10:10.840> impact 1.5 and how that may impact 1.5 and how that may impact not<01:10:12.480> not<01:10:12.680> the<01:10:12.760> unemployment,<01:10:13.480> but<01:10:13.640> the<01:10:13.920> the not not the unemployment, but the the not not the unemployment, but the the insurance,<01:10:14.560> which<01:10:14.720> is<01:10:14.840> sitting<01:10:15.080> on<01:10:15.160> the<01:10:15.240> town insurance, which is sitting on the town insurance, which is sitting on the town side<01:10:15.720> because<01:10:16.480> that<01:10:16.760> would<01:10:16.920> go<01:10:17.120> into<01:10:17.360> this<01:10:17.520> as side because that would go into this as side because that would go into this as well. well. well. Let<01:10:18.480> me<01:10:18.680> just<01:10:19.120> finish<01:10:19.480> my<01:10:19.600> thought<01:10:19.840> a<01:10:19.880> little Let me just finish my thought a little Let me just finish my thought a little bit<01:10:20.160> too<01:10:20.280> in<01:10:20.400> that bit too in that bit too in that again,<01:10:21.920> just<01:10:22.120> to<01:10:22.200> reiterate<01:10:22.560> what<01:10:22.640> Melissa again, just to reiterate what Melissa again, just to reiterate what Melissa said<01:10:23.200> is<01:10:23.320> I<01:10:23.360> don't<01:10:23.720> support<01:10:24.200> that,<01:10:24.600> right?<01:10:25.040> We

1:10:25 said is I don’t support that, right? We said is I don’t support that, right? We definitely<01:10:25.560> do<01:10:25.680> not<01:10:25.840> support<01:10:26.240> that<01:10:26.480> budget. definitely do not support that budget. definitely do not support that budget. But<01:10:27.480> I<01:10:27.520> think<01:10:27.680> it's<01:10:27.800> important<01:10:29.040> to<01:10:29.200> show<01:10:29.440> what But I think it’s important to show what But I think it’s important to show what that<01:10:30.000> budget<01:10:30.360> would<01:10:30.520> look<01:10:30.760> like.<01:10:31.640> And<01:10:31.840> then,<01:10:32.560> I that budget would look like. And then, I that budget would look like. And then, I do<01:10:32.880> think<01:10:33.080> we<01:10:33.200> have<01:10:33.360> to<01:10:33.480> look<01:10:33.760> at do think we have to look at do think we have to look at a<01:10:35.280> more<01:10:35.520> fully<01:10:35.920> funded<01:10:36.320> budget a more fully funded budget a more fully funded budget that<01:10:37.600> includes<01:10:38.160> some<01:10:38.320> of<01:10:38.400> the<01:10:38.480> issues<01:10:38.800> that<01:10:38.920> we that includes some of the issues that we that includes some of the issues that we think<01:10:39.280> are<01:10:39.360> coming<01:10:39.680> next<01:10:40.000> year think are coming next year think are coming next year and<01:10:41.280> look<01:10:41.480> to<01:10:41.640> have<01:10:41.880> that<01:10:42.400> sourced and look to have that sourced and look to have that sourced appropriately. appropriately. appropriately. Probably<01:10:44.600> through<01:10:44.800> a<01:10:44.840> loan. Probably through a loan. Probably through a loan. Yeah,<01:10:47.200> I<01:10:47.280> mean,<01:10:47.480> I<01:10:47.520> don't<01:10:48.320> agree<01:10:48.760> with<01:10:49.040> most<01:10:49.320> of Yeah, I mean, I don’t agree with most of Yeah, I mean, I don’t agree with most of what<01:10:49.560> everybody<01:10:49.920> else<01:10:50.080> is<01:10:50.240> saying. what everybody else is saying. what everybody else is saying. No<01:10:52.320> one<01:10:52.480> wants<01:10:52.720> to<01:10:52.800> make<01:10:53.000> these<01:10:53.200> cuts. No one wants to make these cuts. No one wants to make these cuts. I<01:10:54.480> don't<01:10:54.720> think<01:10:54.920> we're<01:10:55.080> doing<01:10:55.840> the<01:10:56.000> schools I don’t think we’re doing the schools I don’t think we’re doing the schools any<01:10:56.680> favors<01:10:57.240> by<01:10:57.440> not<01:10:57.800> playing<01:10:58.160> ball<01:10:58.840> town. any favors by not playing ball town. any favors by not playing ball town. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, Um, Um, you<01:11:01.880> know,<01:11:02.080> if<01:11:02.320> we<01:11:02.680> refuse<01:11:03.200> to<01:11:03.320> make<01:11:03.560> cuts, you know, if we refuse to make cuts, you know, if we refuse to make cuts, then<01:11:05.640> the<01:11:05.720> cuts<01:11:06.000> that<01:11:06.160> have<01:11:06.280> to<01:11:06.360> be<01:11:06.480> made<01:11:06.720> on then the cuts that have to be made on then the cuts that have to be made on the<01:11:06.920> town<01:11:07.200> side<01:11:07.480> to<01:11:07.560> offset<01:11:08.040> that<01:11:08.360> are the town side to offset that are the town side to offset that are probably<01:11:09.000> going<01:11:09.120> to<01:11:09.200> fall<01:11:09.680> on<01:11:09.840> our<01:11:10.040> laps<01:11:10.320> in

1:11:10 probably going to fall on our laps in probably going to fall on our laps in terms<01:11:10.880> of<01:11:10.920> public<01:11:11.360> opinion. terms of public opinion. terms of public opinion. And<01:11:12.800> that's<01:11:13.080> not<01:11:13.280> going<01:11:13.400> to<01:11:13.480> help<01:11:13.680> us<01:11:13.800> in<01:11:13.880> the And that’s not going to help us in the And that’s not going to help us in the future<01:11:14.360> or<01:11:14.520> less. future or less. future or less. Um,<01:11:16.560> we<01:11:16.760> do<01:11:17.000> need<01:11:17.240> to<01:11:17.360> come<01:11:17.640> up<01:11:17.840> with<01:11:18.000> a<01:11:18.080> number Um, we do need to come up with a number Um, we do need to come up with a number so<01:11:18.840> that<01:11:19.320> we<01:11:19.520> can<01:11:19.760> tell<01:11:20.680> Mike<01:11:20.960> and<01:11:21.080> John<01:11:21.440> what so that we can tell Mike and John what so that we can tell Mike and John what to<01:11:21.800> do.<01:11:22.120> So, to do. So, to do. So, how<01:11:24.000> do<01:11:24.120> we<01:11:24.200> get<01:11:24.440> that<01:11:24.640> number<01:11:25.040> and<01:11:25.800> when<01:11:26.160> do how do we get that number and when do how do we get that number and when do you<01:11:26.720> get<01:11:26.920> it<01:11:27.040> just<01:11:27.280> so<01:11:27.400> we<01:11:27.480> know? you get it just so we know? you get it just so we know? We<01:11:28.440> sort<01:11:28.680> of<01:11:28.760> set<01:11:28.920> up<01:11:29.040> this<01:11:29.200> meeting<01:11:29.400> I<01:11:29.440> know<01:11:29.600> it We sort of set up this meeting I know it We sort of set up this meeting I know it was was was quick<01:11:30.600> turnaround,<01:11:31.040> but<01:11:31.160> we<01:11:31.240> set<01:11:31.440> up<01:11:31.560> this quick turnaround, but we set up this quick turnaround, but we set up this meeting<01:11:32.040> to<01:11:32.160> get<01:11:32.320> that<01:11:32.560> number<01:11:33.400> and<01:11:33.560> we're meeting to get that number and we’re meeting to get that number and we’re still still still not<01:11:35.680> sure<01:11:35.960> about<01:11:36.280> what<01:11:36.440> that<01:11:36.680> is<01:11:36.920> and<01:11:37.080> we<01:11:37.200> need not sure about what that is and we need not sure about what that is and we need to<01:11:37.520> move<01:11:37.800> quickly<01:11:38.200> particularly<01:11:39.400> I<01:11:39.480> don't to move quickly particularly I don’t to move quickly particularly I don’t want<01:11:39.760> to<01:11:39.880> pivot<01:11:40.320> too<01:11:40.440> quickly,<01:11:40.720> but want to pivot too quickly, but want to pivot too quickly, but particularly<01:11:41.320> if<01:11:41.400> we're<01:11:41.520> going<01:11:41.680> to<01:11:41.760> start<01:11:42.160> to particularly if we’re going to start to particularly if we’re going to start to also<01:11:42.960> ask also ask also ask John<01:11:45.160> and<01:11:45.840> Mike<01:11:46.360> to<01:11:47.400> look<01:11:47.680> at<01:11:47.840> override John and Mike to look at override John and Mike to look at override scenarios<01:11:49.400> like<01:11:49.680> the<01:11:49.920> select<01:11:50.280> board<01:11:50.520> already. scenarios like the select board already. scenarios like the select board already. Like<01:11:52.120> cuz<01:11:52.240> we<01:11:52.320> don't<01:11:52.440> want<01:11:52.560> to<01:11:52.640> fall<01:11:52.840> behind Like cuz we don’t want to fall behind Like cuz we don’t want to fall behind there<01:11:53.400> and there and there and so,<01:11:55.400> what

1:11:57 so, what so, what Mike,<01:11:57.840> you<01:11:57.960> need<01:11:58.280> to<01:11:58.480> restate<01:11:59.240> exactly<01:11:59.880> what Mike, you need to restate exactly what Mike, you need to restate exactly what you<01:12:00.280> need you need you need to<01:12:02.080> get<01:12:02.400> a<01:12:02.480> number<01:12:02.800> that<01:12:03.000> you<01:12:03.120> can<01:12:03.280> be to get a number that you can be to get a number that you can be confident<01:12:04.600> in<01:12:05.120> so<01:12:05.320> that<01:12:05.560> we<01:12:05.720> can<01:12:06.040> give<01:12:06.320> you confident in so that we can give you confident in so that we can give you direction.<01:12:07.720> I'm<01:12:07.920> going<01:12:08.040> to<01:12:08.120> jump<01:12:08.320> in<01:12:08.440> for<01:12:08.560> a direction. I’m going to jump in for a direction. I’m going to jump in for a second<01:12:09.000> cuz<01:12:09.320> I<01:12:09.360> was<01:12:09.760> trying<01:12:09.960> to<01:12:10.000> stay<01:12:10.160> quiet second cuz I was trying to stay quiet second cuz I was trying to stay quiet over<01:12:10.640> here,<01:12:10.840> but<01:12:10.920> I<01:12:10.960> think over here, but I think over here, but I think um um um I<01:12:13.200> honestly<01:12:13.520> think<01:12:14.160> um<01:12:14.680> at<01:12:14.760> least<01:12:15.000> she<01:12:15.080> needs I honestly think um at least she needs I honestly think um at least she needs to<01:12:15.320> dig<01:12:15.560> back<01:12:15.840> in. to dig back in. to dig back in. Some<01:12:17.120> stuff<01:12:17.360> Mike<01:12:17.520> just<01:12:17.680> brought<01:12:17.840> up<01:12:17.960> about Some stuff Mike just brought up about Some stuff Mike just brought up about the<01:12:18.320> pension,<01:12:18.960> about<01:12:19.360> the<01:12:19.800> cuz<01:12:20.000> you<01:12:20.120> know, the pension, about the cuz you know, the pension, about the cuz you know, we’re<01:12:20.400> talking<01:12:20.680> percentages,<01:12:21.320> right?<01:12:21.560> 63<01:12:22.160> and we’re talking percentages, right? 63 and we’re talking percentages, right? 63 and 7<01:12:22.760> all<01:12:22.840> that<01:12:22.920> stuff.<01:12:23.640> And<01:12:24.000> just<01:12:24.280> that<01:12:24.480> quick 7 all that stuff. And just that quick 7 all that stuff. And just that quick math<01:12:25.000> that<01:12:25.080> Mike<01:12:25.240> just<01:12:25.400> did<01:12:25.560> on math that Mike just did on math that Mike just did on the<01:12:26.720> pension<01:12:27.080> side<01:12:27.280> of<01:12:27.360> things,<01:12:27.600> there's the pension side of things, there’s the pension side of things, there’s there’s<01:12:28.120> a<01:12:28.200> lot<01:12:28.440> of<01:12:28.520> money<01:12:28.760> on<01:12:28.880> the<01:12:28.960> table<01:12:29.240> cuz there’s a lot of money on the table cuz there’s a lot of money on the table cuz that’s<01:12:29.600> not<01:12:29.760> a<01:12:29.800> 50/50<01:12:30.440> as<01:12:30.600> you<01:12:30.680> know,<01:12:30.880> so<01:12:31.080> it's that’s not a 50/50 as you know, so it’s that’s not a 50/50 as you know, so it’s two<01:12:31.520> times<01:12:31.760> that<01:12:31.920> there.<01:12:32.120> So, two times that there. So, two times that there. So, I<01:12:33.160> think<01:12:33.400> if<01:12:33.520> you're<01:12:33.800> looking<01:12:34.040> at<01:12:34.160> that<01:12:34.400> piece, I think if you’re looking at that piece, I think if you’re looking at that piece, you’re<01:12:35.200> looking<01:12:35.440> at<01:12:35.640> at<01:12:35.720> one<01:12:35.920> point<01:12:36.160> Alex<01:12:36.400> said you’re looking at at one point Alex said you’re looking at at one point Alex said there’s<01:12:36.800> a<01:12:36.920> 900,000<01:12:37.680> that<01:12:37.760> could<01:12:37.880> be<01:12:37.960> a there’s a 900,000 that could be a there’s a 900,000 that could be a 600,000<01:12:39.280> that<01:12:39.480> we<01:12:39.840> dealt<01:12:40.160> with.<01:12:40.560> Like<01:12:40.720> those 600,000 that we dealt with. Like those 600,000 that we dealt with. Like those are<01:12:41.040> the<01:12:41.160> things<01:12:41.520> that<01:12:41.760> matter,<01:12:42.200> right?

1:12:42 are the things that matter, right? are the things that matter, right? 600,000<01:12:43.600> is,<01:12:44.000> you<01:12:44.080> know,<01:12:44.360> X<01:12:44.600> amount<01:12:44.840> of 600,000 is, you know, X amount of 600,000 is, you know, X amount of teachers.<01:12:45.800> Like<01:12:46.600> and<01:12:46.800> I<01:12:46.840> know<01:12:47.000> the<01:12:47.120> town<01:12:47.360> side teachers. Like and I know the town side teachers. Like and I know the town side is<01:12:47.600> going<01:12:47.720> to<01:12:47.760> cut<01:12:48.000> it<01:12:48.160> more.<01:12:48.680> So,<01:12:48.880> at<01:12:49.000> the<01:12:49.080> end is going to cut it more. So, at the end is going to cut it more. So, at the end of<01:12:49.280> the<01:12:49.320> day, of the day, of the day, I<01:12:50.520> need<01:12:50.840> from<01:12:51.000> the<01:12:51.080> committee I need from the committee I need from the committee a<01:12:52.320> number<01:12:52.680> that's<01:12:53.000> as<01:12:53.200> close<01:12:53.520> to<01:12:53.640> possible<01:12:54.080> as a number that’s as close to possible as a number that’s as close to possible as what<01:12:54.240> the<01:12:54.320> number's<01:12:54.600> going<01:12:54.720> to<01:12:54.840> be.<01:12:55.480> 1.5<01:12:56.080> has what the number’s going to be. 1.5 has what the number’s going to be. 1.5 has been<01:12:56.320> thrown<01:12:56.600> out<01:12:56.760> there<01:12:57.040> and<01:12:57.360> I<01:12:57.400> think<01:12:57.640> Alex been thrown out there and I think Alex been thrown out there and I think Alex Alec<01:12:58.600> has<01:12:58.720> done<01:12:58.880> a<01:12:58.920> nice<01:12:59.120> job<01:12:59.360> of<01:12:59.680> kind<01:12:59.920> of Alec has done a nice job of kind of Alec has done a nice job of kind of getting<01:13:00.400> some<01:13:00.600> substantiating<01:13:01.320> that. getting some substantiating that. getting some substantiating that. However,<01:13:02.320> and<01:13:02.600> this<01:13:02.760> is<01:13:02.840> no<01:13:02.960> offense<01:13:03.320> to However, and this is no offense to However, and this is no offense to anybody,<01:13:04.000> I<01:13:04.120> just<01:13:04.280> like<01:13:04.480> to<01:13:04.520> know<01:13:04.600> if<01:13:04.680> that anybody, I just like to know if that anybody, I just like to know if that number’s<01:13:05.120> the<01:13:05.160> right<01:13:05.360> number<01:13:05.600> because<01:13:05.960> I number’s the right number because I number’s the right number because I don’t<01:13:06.200> think<01:13:06.360> that<01:13:06.480> that<01:13:06.680> is<01:13:06.920> what<01:13:07.120> it<01:13:07.200> was. don’t think that that is what it was. don’t think that that is what it was. You<01:13:08.800> know,<01:13:08.920> where<01:13:09.120> it<01:13:09.200> needs<01:13:09.360> to<01:13:09.400> be.<01:13:09.880> I<01:13:09.960> think You know, where it needs to be. I think You know, where it needs to be. I think it<01:13:10.120> needs<01:13:10.280> to<01:13:10.320> be<01:13:10.400> a<01:13:10.440> little<01:13:10.600> bit<01:13:10.720> more it needs to be a little bit more it needs to be a little bit more analysis. analysis. analysis. But,<01:13:12.840> I<01:13:12.920> can't<01:13:13.680> wait<01:13:14.160> two,<01:13:14.440> three,<01:13:14.800> four<01:13:15.040> more But, I can’t wait two, three, four more But, I can’t wait two, three, four more weeks<01:13:15.560> for<01:13:15.720> that.<01:13:16.080> I<01:13:16.200> have<01:13:16.680> There's<01:13:16.800> a<01:13:16.880> lot<01:13:17.520> a weeks for that. I have There’s a lot a weeks for that. I have There’s a lot a lot<01:13:18.000> of<01:13:18.120> work<01:13:18.320> to<01:13:18.440> do.<01:13:18.920> The<01:13:19.040> 14.7<01:13:20.000> 5<01:13:20.280> FTEs<01:13:20.680> that lot of work to do. The 14.7 5 FTEs that lot of work to do. The 14.7 5 FTEs that we’ve<01:13:20.920> already<01:13:21.320> cut<01:13:21.680> into<01:13:21.960> a<01:13:22.000> level<01:13:22.280> funded we’ve already cut into a level funded we’ve already cut into a level funded budget<01:13:22.840> with<01:13:22.960> work<01:13:23.120> classes<01:13:23.440> and<01:13:23.560> all<01:13:23.640> that. budget with work classes and all that. budget with work classes and all that. And<01:13:24.760> this<01:13:24.920> isn't<01:13:25.200> like,<01:13:25.440> oh,<01:13:25.520> we<01:13:25.640> can<01:13:25.760> turn And this isn’t like, oh, we can turn And this isn’t like, oh, we can turn around<01:13:26.200> and<01:13:26.280> cut<01:13:27.120> that<01:13:27.240> small<01:13:27.520> of<01:13:27.600> a<01:13:27.640> position

1:13:28 around and cut that small of a position around and cut that small of a position with,<01:13:28.760> you<01:13:28.840> know,<01:13:28.920> weeks<01:13:29.200> to<01:13:29.280> happen.<01:13:29.520> So, with, you know, weeks to happen. So, with, you know, weeks to happen. So, I<01:13:30.720> would<01:13:30.840> just<01:13:31.080> ask<01:13:31.440> that<01:13:32.280> the<01:13:32.440> committee<01:13:32.840> come I would just ask that the committee come I would just ask that the committee come up<01:13:33.160> with<01:13:33.320> something<01:13:33.760> that<01:13:33.880> makes<01:13:34.200> sense<01:13:34.520> based up with something that makes sense based up with something that makes sense based upon<01:13:35.560> either upon either upon either a<01:13:37.000> range<01:13:37.520> maybe<01:13:38.040> or<01:13:38.240> something.<01:13:38.960> And<01:13:39.080> then a range maybe or something. And then a range maybe or something. And then when<01:13:39.440> we<01:13:39.520> get<01:13:39.680> the<01:13:39.840> actual<01:13:40.240> number,<01:13:40.880> which<01:13:41.080> I'm when we get the actual number, which I’m when we get the actual number, which I’m going<01:13:41.840> to<01:13:41.920> ask,<01:13:41.955> [snorts]<01:13:42.040> right? going to ask, [snorts] right? going to ask, [snorts] right? So,<01:13:43.080> if<01:13:43.160> we<01:13:43.240> don't<01:13:43.440> have<01:13:43.600> it, So, if we don’t have it, So, if we don’t have it, an<01:13:44.440> actual<01:13:44.720> number,<01:13:44.960> then<01:13:45.200> we<01:13:45.280> can<01:13:45.360> make an actual number, then we can make an actual number, then we can make another<01:13:45.880> adjustment<01:13:46.440> of<01:13:46.520> some<01:13:46.680> sort.<01:13:46.960> But, another adjustment of some sort. But, another adjustment of some sort. But, I<01:13:48.200> don't<01:13:48.520> want<01:13:48.720> to<01:13:48.920> create<01:13:49.400> a<01:13:49.440> scenario<01:13:50.040> of I don’t want to create a scenario of I don’t want to create a scenario of having<01:13:50.960> out<01:13:51.120> how<01:13:51.240> to<01:13:51.320> come<01:13:51.480> up<01:13:51.560> with<01:13:52.080> 1.5 having out how to come up with 1.5 having out how to come up with 1.5 million<01:13:52.840> dollars<01:13:53.640> if<01:13:53.760> that<01:13:53.920> 1.5<01:13:54.480> million<01:13:55.000> ends million dollars if that 1.5 million ends million dollars if that 1.5 million ends up<01:13:55.280> being<01:13:55.720> 900 up being 900 up being 900 or<01:13:57.320> 1.2.<01:13:57.960> And<01:13:58.160> that's<01:13:58.520> that's<01:13:58.840> real<01:13:59.720> money, or 1.2. And that’s that’s real money, or 1.2. And that’s that’s real money, that’s<01:14:00.320> real<01:14:01.040> people.<01:14:01.960> And<01:14:02.160> I<01:14:02.240> will<01:14:02.520> just<01:14:02.720> say that’s real people. And I will just say that’s real people. And I will just say this<01:14:03.000> one<01:14:03.160> last<01:14:03.400> thing.<01:14:04.120> Regardless<01:14:04.520> of this one last thing. Regardless of this one last thing. Regardless of whatever<01:14:04.880> that<01:14:05.040> number<01:14:05.360> is, whatever that number is, whatever that number is, and<01:14:06.320> I<01:14:06.400> said<01:14:06.640> this<01:14:06.760> from<01:14:06.920> the<01:14:07.040> very<01:14:07.400> beginning and I said this from the very beginning and I said this from the very beginning of<01:14:07.920> the<01:14:08.000> general<01:14:08.400> fund<01:14:08.680> budget,<01:14:09.000> we're<01:14:09.120> in<01:14:09.200> the of the general fund budget, we’re in the of the general fund budget, we’re in the business<01:14:09.600> of<01:14:09.720> students. business of students. business of students. This<01:14:11.400> will<01:14:11.720> 100%<01:14:13.200> impact<01:14:13.800> classrooms,<01:14:14.520> which

1:14:14 This will 100% impact classrooms, which This will 100% impact classrooms, which is<01:14:14.800> going<01:14:14.960> to<01:14:15.040> 100%<01:14:16.000> impact<01:14:16.360> students. is going to 100% impact students. is going to 100% impact students. I<01:14:17.600> get<01:14:17.880> it.<01:14:18.600> It's<01:14:18.920> it's<01:14:19.120> what<01:14:19.240> we<01:14:19.320> need<01:14:19.480> to<01:14:19.600> do. I get it. It’s it’s what we need to do. I get it. It’s it’s what we need to do. I<01:14:19.960> think<01:14:20.280> we<01:14:20.520> need<01:14:20.720> to<01:14:20.800> play<01:14:21.000> ball,<01:14:21.320> we<01:14:21.400> need<01:14:21.560> to I think we need to play ball, we need to I think we need to play ball, we need to work<01:14:21.840> together.<01:14:22.280> But,<01:14:22.440> that's<01:14:22.600> the<01:14:22.680> only<01:14:22.840> way work together. But, that’s the only way work together. But, that’s the only way this<01:14:23.120> town<01:14:23.280> can<01:14:23.400> move<01:14:23.640> forward.<01:14:24.160> I'm<01:14:24.280> not this town can move forward. I’m not this town can move forward. I’m not saying saying saying that<01:14:25.800> I<01:14:25.960> I<01:14:26.240> I<01:14:26.280> guess<01:14:26.640> I<01:14:26.840> don't<01:14:27.120> want<01:14:27.320> to<01:14:27.400> cut that I I I guess I don’t want to cut that I I I guess I don’t want to cut money, money, money, people,<01:14:29.840> but<01:14:30.160> but<01:14:30.280> it<01:14:30.520> will<01:14:31.040> 100%<01:14:31.800> impact people, but but it will 100% impact people, but but it will 100% impact students.<01:14:33.760> And<01:14:33.880> I'm<01:14:33.960> an<01:14:34.080> educator,<01:14:34.720> I'm<01:14:34.840> an students. And I’m an educator, I’m an students. And I’m an educator, I’m an educational<01:14:35.480> leader<01:14:35.720> in<01:14:35.800> the<01:14:35.880> district,<01:14:36.760> and educational leader in the district, and educational leader in the district, and it’s<01:14:37.080> my<01:14:37.360> job<01:14:38.520> to<01:14:39.000> try<01:14:39.240> and<01:14:39.360> do<01:14:39.520> what's<01:14:39.680> best it’s my job to try and do what’s best it’s my job to try and do what’s best for<01:14:40.000> our<01:14:40.080> kids.<01:14:40.800> This<01:14:41.000> is<01:14:41.080> not<01:14:41.280> best<01:14:41.480> for<01:14:41.600> our for our kids. This is not best for our for our kids. This is not best for our kids. kids. kids. We’re<01:14:43.440> in<01:14:43.520> a<01:14:43.560> position<01:14:44.080> that<01:14:44.800> really<01:14:45.040> was We’re in a position that really was We’re in a position that really was caused<01:14:45.440> by<01:14:45.560> none<01:14:45.800> of<01:14:45.960> us. caused by none of us. caused by none of us. Um,<01:14:47.200> and<01:14:47.360> we<01:14:47.440> need<01:14:47.640> to<01:14:47.720> figure<01:14:47.920> out<01:14:48.000> a<01:14:48.040> way Um, and we need to figure out a way Um, and we need to figure out a way through<01:14:48.400> this.<01:14:49.360> Um,<01:14:49.880> this<01:14:50.080> year's<01:14:50.360> bad.<01:14:50.920> Next through this. Um, this year’s bad. Next through this. Um, this year’s bad. Next year’s<01:14:51.280> going<01:14:51.400> to<01:14:51.440> be<01:14:51.520> way<01:14:51.680> worse.<01:14:52.600> Way<01:14:52.960> worse. year’s going to be way worse. Way worse. year’s going to be way worse. Way worse. So,<01:14:53.320> we<01:14:54.080> we<01:14:54.200> need<01:14:54.400> to<01:14:54.520> plan<01:14:54.880> now So, we we need to plan now So, we we need to plan now for<01:14:56.040> the<01:14:56.160> future,<01:14:56.520> too.<01:14:57.200> So,<01:14:57.520> this<01:14:57.760> can't<01:14:58.000> be<01:14:58.120> a for the future, too. So, this can’t be a for the future, too. So, this can’t be a little<01:14:58.320> band-aid<01:14:58.760> and<01:14:58.880> say,<01:14:59.000> "Okay,<01:14:59.240> we<01:14:59.280> got little band-aid and say, “Okay, we got little band-aid and say, “Okay, we got through<01:14:59.640> it."<01:15:00.280> Next<01:15:00.520> year's<01:15:00.640> going<01:15:00.760> to<01:15:00.800> be

1:15:00 through it.” Next year’s going to be through it.” Next year’s going to be worse. worse. worse. So,<01:15:02.720> override,<01:15:03.280> override,<01:15:03.920> cuts,<01:15:04.400> cuts, So, override, override, cuts, cuts, So, override, override, cuts, cuts, whatever. whatever. whatever. This<01:15:06.080> has<01:15:06.320> to<01:15:06.480> We<01:15:06.680> have<01:15:06.920> to<01:15:07.000> like<01:15:07.720> soon<01:15:08.040> as<01:15:08.120> we This has to We have to like soon as we This has to We have to like soon as we get<01:15:08.640> town<01:15:08.880> meeting<01:15:09.160> done<01:15:09.400> now,<01:15:09.600> we<01:15:09.680> got<01:15:09.800> to get town meeting done now, we got to get town meeting done now, we got to start<01:15:10.040> working<01:15:10.240> on<01:15:10.360> this<01:15:10.520> year.<01:15:10.960> I<01:15:11.040> mean,<01:15:11.200> it start working on this year. I mean, it start working on this year. I mean, it can’t<01:15:11.600> be. can’t be. can’t be. So,<01:15:12.720> I<01:15:12.800> just<01:15:13.560> I<01:15:13.600> just<01:15:13.800> needed<01:15:13.960> to<01:15:14.040> say<01:15:14.240> those So, I just I just needed to say those So, I just I just needed to say those things. things. things. I<01:15:15.520> will<01:15:15.680> take<01:15:15.840> the<01:15:15.920> direction<01:15:16.800> of<01:15:16.920> the<01:15:16.960> school I will take the direction of the school I will take the direction of the school committee,<01:15:18.040> and<01:15:18.200> Mike<01:15:18.400> and<01:15:18.520> I<01:15:18.600> will<01:15:18.720> work<01:15:18.880> with committee, and Mike and I will work with committee, and Mike and I will work with that<01:15:19.160> team<01:15:19.360> to<01:15:19.440> do<01:15:19.560> what<01:15:19.680> we<01:15:19.800> need<01:15:20.000> to<01:15:20.080> do. that team to do what we need to do. that team to do what we need to do. However<01:15:20.920> that However that However that whatever<01:15:22.200> that<01:15:22.320> number<01:15:22.640> is,<01:15:22.840> and<01:15:22.960> however<01:15:23.240> we whatever that number is, and however we whatever that number is, and however we need<01:15:23.480> to<01:15:23.560> get<01:15:23.720> to,<01:15:23.880> we'll<01:15:24.080> figure<01:15:24.360> it<01:15:24.440> out. need to get to, we’ll figure it out. need to get to, we’ll figure it out. We’re<01:15:25.560> going<01:15:25.680> to<01:15:25.760> have<01:15:25.840> to We’re going to have to We’re going to have to » say,<01:15:26.640> John,<01:15:26.920> let<01:15:27.080> Thank<01:15:27.360> you.<01:15:27.520> And<01:15:27.720> let<01:15:27.840> me » say, John, let Thank you. And let me » say, John, let Thank you. And let me just<01:15:28.080> make<01:15:28.240> a<01:15:28.280> comment<01:15:28.640> to<01:15:28.760> the<01:15:28.880> other just make a comment to the other just make a comment to the other committee<01:15:29.320> members.<01:15:29.640> This<01:15:29.800> is<01:15:30.120> This<01:15:30.280> is<01:15:30.400> tough committee members. This is This is tough committee members. This is This is tough stuff,<01:15:30.960> right?<01:15:31.480> I<01:15:31.520> mean,<01:15:31.600> this<01:15:31.800> is,<01:15:32.440> you<01:15:32.520> know, stuff, right? I mean, this is, you know, stuff, right? I mean, this is, you know, we’re<01:15:33.640> elected<01:15:34.000> or<01:15:34.080> appointed<01:15:34.480> to<01:15:34.560> do<01:15:34.680> a<01:15:34.720> job, we’re elected or appointed to do a job, we’re elected or appointed to do a job, and<01:15:35.160> that's<01:15:35.440> to<01:15:35.880> advocate<01:15:36.280> for<01:15:36.360> the<01:15:36.480> schools. and that’s to advocate for the schools. and that’s to advocate for the schools. Of<01:15:37.480> course,<01:15:37.760> we<01:15:37.840> need<01:15:38.080> to<01:15:38.120> be<01:15:38.240> partners.<01:15:38.800> We Of course, we need to be partners. We Of course, we need to be partners. We are<01:15:39.040> also,<01:15:39.840> you<01:15:39.960> know,<01:15:40.160> residents<01:15:40.600> of<01:15:40.640> the are also, you know, residents of the are also, you know, residents of the town,<01:15:41.080> and<01:15:41.160> we<01:15:41.280> care<01:15:41.440> about<01:15:41.640> the<01:15:41.720> town,<01:15:41.960> but<01:15:42.120> we town, and we care about the town, but we town, and we care about the town, but we are<01:15:42.600> We<01:15:42.760> are<01:15:42.880> the<01:15:42.960> school<01:15:43.160> committee.<01:15:43.840> And<01:15:43.960> our are We are the school committee. And our are We are the school committee. And our job<01:15:44.400> is<01:15:44.600> to<01:15:44.920> advocate<01:15:45.440> for<01:15:45.560> the<01:15:45.640> budget<01:15:45.960> that

1:15:46 job is to advocate for the budget that job is to advocate for the budget that we<01:15:46.160> need.<01:15:46.480> Kate,<01:15:47.040> you<01:15:47.200> wrote<01:15:47.400> a<01:15:47.440> letter<01:15:47.720> to<01:15:47.880> the we need. Kate, you wrote a letter to the we need. Kate, you wrote a letter to the school<01:15:48.240> committee<01:15:48.480> last<01:15:48.840> year,<01:15:49.040> signed<01:15:49.360> with school committee last year, signed with school committee last year, signed with two<01:15:49.600> other<01:15:49.800> parents,<01:15:50.520> demanding<01:15:51.440> that<01:15:51.600> the two other parents, demanding that the two other parents, demanding that the school<01:15:52.000> committee<01:15:52.320> do<01:15:52.480> a<01:15:52.560> fully<01:15:52.920> funded school committee do a fully funded school committee do a fully funded budget,<01:15:53.600> not<01:15:53.760> a<01:15:53.800> level<01:15:54.080> service<01:15:54.400> budget,<01:15:55.120> not budget, not a level service budget, not budget, not a level service budget, not a<01:15:55.400> level<01:15:56.120> funded<01:15:56.400> budget,<01:15:56.760> a<01:15:56.840> fully<01:15:57.200> funded a level funded budget, a fully funded a level funded budget, a fully funded budget.<01:15:57.880> That<01:15:58.000> was<01:15:58.120> your<01:15:58.240> demand<01:15:58.560> last<01:15:58.880> year. budget. That was your demand last year. budget. That was your demand last year. So,<01:15:59.800> you<01:15:59.880> can<01:16:00.040> see<01:16:00.800> that<01:16:00.960> it's<01:16:01.280> it's<01:16:01.480> not<01:16:01.720> easy. So, you can see that it’s it’s not easy. So, you can see that it’s it’s not easy. Right?<01:16:03.200> There's<01:16:03.360> a<01:16:03.440> lot<01:16:03.840> of<01:16:04.000> pressure,<01:16:04.440> and Right? There’s a lot of pressure, and Right? There’s a lot of pressure, and there’s<01:16:04.640> a<01:16:04.720> lot<01:16:04.920> of<01:16:05.040> demand,<01:16:05.400> and<01:16:05.480> that's there’s a lot of demand, and that’s there’s a lot of demand, and that’s understandable.<01:16:07.200> Um,<01:16:07.360> and<01:16:07.440> that's<01:16:07.600> what understandable. Um, and that’s what understandable. Um, and that’s what we’re<01:16:07.800> faced<01:16:08.080> with,<01:16:08.280> but<01:16:08.440> our<01:16:08.560> job<01:16:08.960> is<01:16:09.080> to we’re faced with, but our job is to we’re faced with, but our job is to advocate<01:16:09.600> for<01:16:09.720> the<01:16:09.800> schools. advocate for the schools. advocate for the schools. And,<01:16:11.440> you<01:16:11.520> know,<01:16:11.600> to<01:16:11.720> Alex's<01:16:12.080> point<01:16:12.800> earlier, And, you know, to Alex’s point earlier, And, you know, to Alex’s point earlier, the the the the<01:16:14.800> town<01:16:15.080> meeting<01:16:15.720> will the town meeting will the town meeting will ultimately<01:16:17.160> vote<01:16:17.520> on<01:16:17.800> on<01:16:17.920> a<01:16:18.000> recommended ultimately vote on on a recommended ultimately vote on on a recommended budget<01:16:18.800> from<01:16:18.920> the<01:16:19.160> from<01:16:19.320> the<01:16:19.400> finance budget from the from the finance budget from the from the finance committee,<01:16:20.040> but<01:16:20.160> the<01:16:20.240> school<01:16:20.480> committee<01:16:21.280> is committee, but the school committee is committee, but the school committee is the<01:16:21.840> is<01:16:22.040> the<01:16:22.240> other<01:16:22.960> only<01:16:23.320> body<01:16:23.640> in<01:16:23.720> town<01:16:24.600> that the is the other only body in town that the is the other only body in town that can<01:16:25.000> go<01:16:25.200> to<01:16:25.360> town<01:16:25.560> meeting<01:16:25.920> with<01:16:26.040> a<01:16:26.120> request can go to town meeting with a request can go to town meeting with a request for<01:16:26.760> what<01:16:27.040> it<01:16:27.240> wants. for what it wants. for what it wants. We<01:16:28.760> can<01:16:28.960> do<01:16:29.080> that.<01:16:29.240> And<01:16:29.320> I'm<01:16:29.400> not<01:16:29.560> suggest<01:16:29.920> I'm We can do that. And I’m not suggest I’m We can do that. And I’m not suggest I’m not<01:16:30.240> suggesting<01:16:30.840> that<01:16:30.960> that's<01:16:31.160> what<01:16:31.280> we<01:16:31.360> do.

1:16:32 not suggesting that that’s what we do. not suggesting that that’s what we do. But,<01:16:32.640> we<01:16:32.880> have<01:16:33.120> the<01:16:33.200> right<01:16:33.440> to<01:16:33.520> do<01:16:33.680> it.<01:16:34.240> And<01:16:34.400> at But, we have the right to do it. And at But, we have the right to do it. And at some<01:16:34.760> point,<01:16:35.120> we<01:16:35.240> have<01:16:35.440> to<01:16:35.520> decide,<01:16:36.480> and some point, we have to decide, and some point, we have to decide, and that’s<01:16:36.880> what<01:16:37.000> John's<01:16:37.240> saying,<01:16:37.600> and<01:16:37.720> he's<01:16:37.920> has that’s what John’s saying, and he’s has that’s what John’s saying, and he’s has He’s<01:16:38.840> absolutely<01:16:39.360> right,<01:16:39.720> and<01:16:40.280> they<01:16:40.480> they<01:16:40.880> It He’s absolutely right, and they they It He’s absolutely right, and they they It is<01:16:41.160> not<01:16:41.400> them<01:16:41.840> their<01:16:42.040> job<01:16:42.240> to<01:16:42.400> give<01:16:42.600> us<01:16:42.720> the is not them their job to give us the is not them their job to give us the number.<01:16:43.400> It's<01:16:43.680> our<01:16:43.880> job<01:16:44.160> to<01:16:44.280> tell<01:16:44.680> to<01:16:44.800> give number. It’s our job to tell to give number. It’s our job to tell to give them<01:16:45.120> the<01:16:45.200> directive.<01:16:45.920> What<01:16:46.160> does<01:16:46.320> this them the directive. What does this them the directive. What does this committee<01:16:46.800> want<01:16:47.000> to<01:16:47.080> do? committee want to do? committee want to do? I’m<01:16:49.400> asking<01:16:49.760> each<01:16:49.960> of<01:16:50.080> you.<01:16:50.600> It's<01:16:50.800> the<01:16:50.880> four<01:16:51.040> of I’m asking each of you. It’s the four of I’m asking each of you. It’s the four of you.<01:16:51.240> And<01:16:51.360> at<01:16:51.480> some<01:16:51.680> point,<01:16:52.280> we<01:16:52.320> didn't<01:16:52.480> have you. And at some point, we didn’t have you. And at some point, we didn’t have public<01:16:52.880> comment<01:16:53.200> tonight,<01:16:53.520> Al.<01:16:53.960> I<01:16:54.040> don't<01:16:54.320> know public comment tonight, Al. I don’t know public comment tonight, Al. I don’t know how<01:16:54.440> many<01:16:54.640> people<01:16:54.840> in<01:16:54.920> the<01:16:55.000> room<01:16:55.160> cuz<01:16:55.280> I<01:16:55.320> can't how many people in the room cuz I can’t how many people in the room cuz I can’t see,<01:16:55.880> but<01:16:56.000> we've<01:16:56.120> got<01:16:56.280> a<01:16:56.320> number<01:16:56.560> of<01:16:56.640> folks see, but we’ve got a number of folks see, but we’ve got a number of folks online.<01:16:57.280> I<01:16:57.320> don't<01:16:57.640> know<01:16:57.800> if<01:16:57.920> there's<01:16:58.080> an online. I don’t know if there’s an online. I don’t know if there’s an interest<01:16:58.960> in<01:16:59.080> hearing<01:16:59.360> from<01:16:59.520> public<01:16:59.800> comment. interest in hearing from public comment. interest in hearing from public comment. In<01:17:00.880> the<01:17:00.960> spirit<01:17:01.440> of<01:17:01.600> transparency In the spirit of transparency In the spirit of transparency and<01:17:03.400> good<01:17:03.520> governance.<01:17:04.480> I<01:17:04.680> would,<01:17:05.200> but<01:17:05.640> I and good governance. I would, but I and good governance. I would, but I don’t<01:17:05.880> know<01:17:05.960> if<01:17:06.080> the<01:17:06.200> rest<01:17:06.400> of<01:17:06.480> the<01:17:06.520> committee don’t know if the rest of the committee don’t know if the rest of the committee would. would. would. Yeah,<01:17:07.840> Wayne, Yeah, Wayne, Yeah, Wayne, you<01:17:09.000> know,<01:17:09.120> we<01:17:09.240> had<01:17:09.360> public<01:17:09.680> comment<01:17:09.960> last you know, we had public comment last you know, we had public comment last week<01:17:10.480> or<01:17:11.000> public<01:17:11.320> comment<01:17:12.040> this<01:17:12.280> coming<01:17:12.560> week. week or public comment this coming week. week or public comment this coming week. Uh<01:17:13.840> the<01:17:13.960> only<01:17:14.120> reason<01:17:14.400> we<01:17:14.520> didn't<01:17:14.720> have<01:17:14.840> it Uh the only reason we didn’t have it Uh the only reason we didn’t have it tonight<01:17:15.200> was<01:17:15.360> just<01:17:15.600> to<01:17:15.720> ensure<01:17:16.040> we<01:17:16.160> have tonight was just to ensure we have tonight was just to ensure we have enough<01:17:16.560> time<01:17:17.240> with<01:17:17.600> the<01:17:17.720> select<01:17:18.120> board<01:17:18.360> member

1:17:19 enough time with the select board member enough time with the select board member and<01:17:19.520> the<01:17:19.640> finance<01:17:20.160> committee<01:17:20.400> members<01:17:20.720> here. and the finance committee members here. and the finance committee members here. That<01:17:21.240> was<01:17:21.360> the<01:17:21.480> reason,<01:17:21.760> Jen. That was the reason, Jen. That was the reason, Jen. » Well,<01:17:22.280> we<01:17:22.400> could<01:17:22.680> open<01:17:22.960> it<01:17:23.040> up<01:17:23.120> now<01:17:23.280> if<01:17:23.440> there's » Well, we could open it up now if there’s » Well, we could open it up now if there’s an<01:17:23.680> interest.<01:17:24.280> I<01:17:24.320> don't<01:17:24.520> know<01:17:24.600> if<01:17:24.760> I<01:17:24.800> don't an interest. I don’t know if I don’t an interest. I don’t know if I don’t know<01:17:25.080> I<01:17:25.120> don't<01:17:25.280> know<01:17:25.360> if<01:17:25.520> there's<01:17:25.680> people<01:17:25.880> who know I don’t know if there’s people who know I don’t know if there’s people who want want want » to<01:17:26.360> Going<01:17:26.520> back<01:17:26.760> to<01:17:26.880> your<01:17:26.960> first<01:17:27.240> question, » to Going back to your first question, » to Going back to your first question, Jen. Jen. Jen. So,<01:17:29.360> I<01:17:29.480> I<01:17:29.640> clearly<01:17:30.080> want<01:17:30.320> to So, I I clearly want to So, I I clearly want to you<01:17:31.440> know,<01:17:32.200> in<01:17:32.320> working<01:17:32.680> with<01:17:32.800> the<01:17:32.920> town,<01:17:33.240> put you know, in working with the town, put you know, in working with the town, put together together together what<01:17:36.000> we<01:17:36.160> have<01:17:36.680> less<01:17:37.440> than<01:17:37.600> a<01:17:37.640> match,<01:17:38.280> right? what we have less than a match, right? what we have less than a match, right? And<01:17:39.640> to<01:17:39.720> me,<01:17:39.920> I<01:17:40.000> would<01:17:40.160> look<01:17:40.360> to<01:17:40.520> Mike<01:17:41.080> and And to me, I would look to Mike and And to me, I would look to Mike and Alicia<01:17:41.560> to<01:17:41.760> to<01:17:41.920> work<01:17:42.200> on<01:17:42.440> if<01:17:42.640> there's<01:17:43.320> there's Alicia to to work on if there’s there’s Alicia to to work on if there’s there’s edits<01:17:45.400> to<01:17:45.520> the<01:17:45.680> numbers<01:17:46.120> that<01:17:46.640> we're edits to the numbers that we’re edits to the numbers that we’re presenting<01:17:47.200> tonight. presenting tonight. presenting tonight. So,<01:17:48.760> I<01:17:48.800> think<01:17:49.000> that's<01:17:49.200> one<01:17:49.360> thing<01:17:49.520> we<01:17:49.600> need<01:17:49.800> to So, I think that’s one thing we need to So, I think that’s one thing we need to do. do. do. And<01:17:51.440> then<01:17:51.560> the<01:17:51.640> second<01:17:52.000> thing<01:17:52.200> would<01:17:52.320> be And then the second thing would be And then the second thing would be I<01:17:54.120> think<01:17:54.280> Jen,<01:17:54.480> you<01:17:54.600> just<01:17:54.800> mentioned<01:17:55.120> this, I think Jen, you just mentioned this, I think Jen, you just mentioned this, what<01:17:55.440> a<01:17:55.520> fully<01:17:55.840> funded<01:17:56.200> budget<01:17:56.520> would<01:17:56.640> look what a fully funded budget would look what a fully funded budget would look like.<01:17:57.120> What<01:17:57.320> we<01:17:57.480> would<01:17:57.640> recommend<01:17:58.280> that<01:17:58.400> we like. What we would recommend that we like. What we would recommend that we need<01:17:58.800> to<01:17:58.960> really<01:17:59.680> do<01:17:59.920> the<01:18:00.040> right<01:18:00.320> job<01:18:00.720> for<01:18:00.880> our need to really do the right job for our need to really do the right job for our students. students. students. Um<01:18:02.960> but<01:18:03.120> again,<01:18:03.480> that's<01:18:03.800> going<01:18:04.040> to<01:18:04.120> be<01:18:04.240> tied<01:18:04.560> to

1:18:04 Um but again, that’s going to be tied to Um but again, that’s going to be tied to an<01:18:04.800> additional<01:18:05.280> source<01:18:05.560> of<01:18:05.680> revenue.<01:18:06.360> But<01:18:06.520> I an additional source of revenue. But I an additional source of revenue. But I think<01:18:06.840> that's<01:18:07.040> what think that’s what think that’s what » fully<01:18:07.560> funded<01:18:07.880> budget<01:18:08.200> would<01:18:08.280> have<01:18:08.400> been<01:18:08.520> a » fully funded budget would have been a » fully funded budget would have been a directive<01:18:09.080> last<01:18:09.440> November<01:18:10.240> to<01:18:10.400> our<01:18:10.760> to<01:18:10.840> the directive last November to our to the directive last November to our to the subcommittee<01:18:11.760> and<01:18:11.920> to<01:18:12.040> the<01:18:12.240> administration. subcommittee and to the administration. subcommittee and to the administration. We<01:18:13.000> were<01:18:13.120> never<01:18:13.920> ever<01:18:14.160> tasked<01:18:14.480> with<01:18:14.600> that. We were never ever tasked with that. We were never ever tasked with that. That<01:18:15.280> is<01:18:15.400> its<01:18:15.600> own<01:18:15.960> set<01:18:16.280> of<01:18:16.480> weeks<01:18:16.840> and<01:18:16.960> months That is its own set of weeks and months That is its own set of weeks and months of<01:18:17.400> work.<01:18:18.200> Going<01:18:18.440> back<01:18:19.160> John,<01:18:19.440> correct<01:18:19.680> me<01:18:19.720> if of work. Going back John, correct me if of work. Going back John, correct me if I’m<01:18:19.960> wrong.<01:18:20.160> Like<01:18:20.280> a<01:18:20.360> fully<01:18:20.640> funded<01:18:20.960> budget I’m wrong. Like a fully funded budget I’m wrong. Like a fully funded budget means<01:18:21.440> you<01:18:21.520> go<01:18:21.680> back<01:18:22.040> to<01:18:22.800> the<01:18:22.880> drawing<01:18:23.200> board means you go back to the drawing board means you go back to the drawing board and<01:18:23.640> you<01:18:23.720> start<01:18:24.120> with<01:18:24.280> your<01:18:24.400> administrator. and you start with your administrator. and you start with your administrator. That<01:18:25.120> is<01:18:25.240> not<01:18:25.440> something<01:18:25.760> we<01:18:25.880> have<01:18:26.000> time<01:18:26.240> for. I would think not. I would think not. » No way. » No way. » No way. No<01:18:31.360> way. No way. No way. So,<01:18:33.880> there<01:18:34.160> then<01:18:34.280> there's<01:18:34.440> only<01:18:34.640> one<01:18:34.880> choice, So, there then there’s only one choice, So, there then there’s only one choice, Jen,<01:18:35.520> right?<01:18:35.920> What<01:18:36.080> are<01:18:36.160> the<01:18:36.320> choices<01:18:36.840> there Jen, right? What are the choices there Jen, right? What are the choices there besides besides besides I<01:18:38.440> don't<01:18:38.600> understand<01:18:38.960> I<01:18:39.000> don't<01:18:39.200> I<01:18:39.240> don't<01:18:39.520> I I don’t understand I don’t I don’t I I don’t understand I don’t I don’t I mean<01:18:39.960> our<01:18:40.080> job<01:18:40.400> is<01:18:40.520> to<01:18:40.680> come mean our job is to come mean our job is to come is<01:18:42.600> to<01:18:42.720> present<01:18:43.040> a<01:18:43.080> budget<01:18:43.480> at<01:18:43.600> town<01:18:43.800> meeting. is to present a budget at town meeting. is to present a budget at town meeting. Based<01:18:45.560> on<01:18:45.760> the<01:18:46.120> you<01:18:46.200> know,<01:18:46.360> working<01:18:46.680> with<01:18:46.800> the Based on the you know, working with the Based on the you know, working with the town<01:18:47.120> and<01:18:47.200> the<01:18:47.280> projected<01:18:47.720> revenues.<01:18:48.120> I<01:18:48.160> don't town and the projected revenues. I don’t town and the projected revenues. I don’t I<01:18:49.440> guess<01:18:49.680> I<01:18:49.720> don't<01:18:49.920> understand.

1:18:52 I guess I don’t understand. I guess I don’t understand. We’re<01:18:52.680> working<01:18:53.040> with<01:18:53.160> the<01:18:53.280> town. We’re working with the town. We’re working with the town. Right?<01:18:55.120> Collaborating<01:18:55.680> around<01:18:56.080> a<01:18:56.200> budget Right? Collaborating around a budget Right? Collaborating around a budget that<01:18:56.640> makes<01:18:56.840> sense<01:18:57.080> for<01:18:57.200> both<01:18:57.480> sides. that makes sense for both sides. that makes sense for both sides. Right. Right. Right. » we<01:18:59.400> I<01:18:59.520> think<01:18:59.880> Alex<01:19:00.280> showed<01:19:00.520> what<01:19:00.640> that<01:19:00.840> looks » we I think Alex showed what that looks » we I think Alex showed what that looks like<01:19:01.200> tonight.<01:19:02.040> Yeah. So that’s So that’s » That’s<01:19:05.600> not<01:19:05.720> a<01:19:06.240> That's<01:19:06.440> not<01:19:06.560> a<01:19:06.640> fully<01:19:06.880> funded » That’s not a That’s not a fully funded » That’s not a That’s not a fully funded budget. budget. budget. No,<01:19:09.120> I<01:19:09.200> understand.<01:19:09.880> That's<01:19:10.240> But<01:19:10.440> that's<01:19:10.680> what No, I understand. That’s But that’s what No, I understand. That’s But that’s what we’re<01:19:10.960> being<01:19:11.240> asked<01:19:11.520> to,<01:19:11.720> right?<01:19:11.960> To<01:19:12.080> That's we’re being asked to, right? To That’s we’re being asked to, right? To That’s collaborating. collaborating. collaborating. So<01:19:14.400> that<01:19:15.040> Mike<01:19:15.720> Mike<01:19:15.960> needs<01:19:16.200> guidance<01:19:16.680> on<01:19:16.880> is So that Mike Mike needs guidance on is So that Mike Mike needs guidance on is he<01:19:17.120> going<01:19:17.360> to<01:19:17.440> try<01:19:17.640> to<01:19:17.760> find<01:19:18.080> 1.5<01:19:19.080> or<01:19:19.320> what he going to try to find 1.5 or what he going to try to find 1.5 or what number<01:19:20.320> does<01:19:20.400> he<01:19:20.640> want? number does he want? number does he want? My<01:19:22.520> response<01:19:23.000> to<01:19:23.120> that<01:19:23.440> is<01:19:24.040> we<01:19:24.160> need<01:19:24.360> Alicia My response to that is we need Alicia My response to that is we need Alicia available<01:19:25.360> to<01:19:25.480> do<01:19:25.720> the<01:19:25.840> work<01:19:26.240> to<01:19:26.360> validate<01:19:27.080> the available to do the work to validate the available to do the work to validate the issues<01:19:27.640> that<01:19:27.800> Mike<01:19:28.080> has<01:19:28.520> to<01:19:28.640> help<01:19:28.840> us issues that Mike has to help us issues that Mike has to help us determine<01:19:29.600> what<01:19:29.920> that<01:19:30.160> number<01:19:30.600> is. determine what that number is. determine what that number is. Is<01:19:31.800> she<01:19:31.960> available<01:19:32.640> to<01:19:32.760> do<01:19:32.920> the<01:19:33.040> work? Is she available to do the work? Is she available to do the work? We’ll<01:19:34.200> make<01:19:34.360> her<01:19:34.480> available.<01:19:35.240> Okay. We’ll make her available. Okay. We’ll make her available. Okay. I<01:19:36.400> mean<01:19:36.600> I'm<01:19:36.680> always<01:19:36.840> I<01:19:36.880> mean<01:19:37.000> Mike<01:19:37.120> might<01:19:37.240> want I mean I’m always I mean Mike might want I mean I’m always I mean Mike might want to<01:19:37.480> do<01:19:37.560> a<01:19:37.600> range<01:19:38.000> or<01:19:38.080> one<01:19:38.400> one<01:19:38.640> to<01:19:38.760> two.<01:19:39.120> What<01:19:39.240> if

1:19:39 to do a range or one one to two. What if to do a range or one one to two. What if What<01:19:39.440> if<01:19:39.840> What<01:19:39.960> if<01:19:40.240> What<01:19:40.400> if<01:19:40.520> the<01:19:40.600> analysis<01:19:41.040> is What if What if What if the analysis is What if What if What if the analysis is wrong<01:19:41.320> in<01:19:41.400> the<01:19:41.520> other<01:19:41.680> direction<01:19:42.160> and<01:19:42.280> it wrong in the other direction and it wrong in the other direction and it comes<01:19:42.640> out<01:19:42.800> at<01:19:42.880> 2<01:19:43.040> million? comes out at 2 million? comes out at 2 million? If<01:19:45.120> you<01:19:45.240> If<01:19:45.440> we're<01:19:45.560> questioning<01:19:46.000> the<01:19:46.080> analysis If you If we’re questioning the analysis If you If we’re questioning the analysis and<01:19:47.280> and<01:19:47.400> there's<01:19:47.600> discrep<01:19:47.960> Don't<01:19:48.080> say<01:19:48.200> that and and there’s discrep Don’t say that and and there’s discrep Don’t say that we’re<01:19:48.400> questioning<01:19:48.880> the<01:19:49.000> analysis.<01:19:49.600> I<01:19:49.680> think we’re questioning the analysis. I think we’re questioning the analysis. I think your<01:19:50.000> spreadsheet<01:19:50.480> is<01:19:50.600> solid.<01:19:51.560> I<01:19:51.640> think<01:19:51.880> the your spreadsheet is solid. I think the your spreadsheet is solid. I think the data<01:19:52.320> to<01:19:52.400> spreadsheet<01:19:53.000> is<01:19:53.080> not<01:19:53.320> the<01:19:53.440> analysis. data to spreadsheet is not the analysis. data to spreadsheet is not the analysis. I<01:19:54.640> didn't<01:19:54.880> perform<01:19:55.800> the<01:19:55.880> percentages.<01:19:56.720> I<01:19:56.800> have I didn’t perform the percentages. I have I didn’t perform the percentages. I have nothing<01:19:57.200> to<01:19:57.280> do<01:19:57.400> with<01:19:57.560> it. nothing to do with it. nothing to do with it. The<01:19:58.280> spreadsheet<01:19:58.960> is<01:19:59.160> different<01:19:59.480> from<01:19:59.600> that. The spreadsheet is different from that. The spreadsheet is different from that. I’m<01:20:00.000> saying<01:20:00.840> if<01:20:01.000> we're<01:20:01.120> questioning<01:20:01.640> what I’m saying if we’re questioning what I’m saying if we’re questioning what Alicia<01:20:02.200> did Alicia did Alicia did what<01:20:03.760> if<01:20:03.880> you<01:20:03.960> look<01:20:04.160> at<01:20:04.360> it<01:20:04.440> and<01:20:04.560> it<01:20:04.680> goes<01:20:04.920> the what if you look at it and it goes the what if you look at it and it goes the other<01:20:05.200> way?<01:20:05.840> Then<01:20:05.920> we<01:20:06.040> have<01:20:06.160> to<01:20:06.280> deal<01:20:06.480> with other way? Then we have to deal with other way? Then we have to deal with that.<01:20:07.440> Okay.<01:20:07.960> We<01:20:08.120> need<01:20:08.240> the<01:20:08.320> facts.<01:20:09.480> I<01:20:09.520> mean that. Okay. We need the facts. I mean that. Okay. We need the facts. I mean » Exactly. » Exactly. » Exactly. So<01:20:11.000> if<01:20:11.120> you're<01:20:11.240> looking<01:20:11.520> for<01:20:11.640> a<01:20:11.720> range,<01:20:12.080> you So if you’re looking for a range, you So if you’re looking for a range, you might<01:20:12.320> want<01:20:12.480> to<01:20:12.680> widen<01:20:13.040> that<01:20:13.240> range<01:20:13.760> is<01:20:13.880> what might want to widen that range is what might want to widen that range is what I’m<01:20:14.080> saying.<01:20:14.640> 1<01:20:14.880> to<01:20:15.000> 2<01:20:15.160> million<01:20:15.520> maybe.<01:20:16.280> 1.5<01:20:16.840> is I’m saying. 1 to 2 million maybe. 1.5 is I’m saying. 1 to 2 million maybe. 1.5 is in<01:20:17.000> the<01:20:17.080> middle.<01:20:17.720> I<01:20:17.760> mean<01:20:17.960> the<01:20:18.080> other<01:20:18.320> option in the middle. I mean the other option in the middle. I mean the other option is<01:20:18.880> Melissa<01:20:19.280> if<01:20:19.440> you<01:20:19.600> if<01:20:19.760> it<01:20:19.960> wants<01:20:20.320> to<01:20:20.400> go<01:20:20.480> back is Melissa if you if it wants to go back is Melissa if you if it wants to go back to<01:20:20.760> the<01:20:20.840> subcommittee<01:20:21.320> level<01:20:21.600> and<01:20:21.680> we<01:20:21.800> could to the subcommittee level and we could to the subcommittee level and we could work<01:20:22.360> with<01:20:22.920> Mike<01:20:23.160> on<01:20:23.240> this<01:20:23.400> I<01:20:23.480> don't<01:20:23.680> know.<01:20:24.240> I work with Mike on this I don’t know. I work with Mike on this I don’t know. I mean<01:20:24.800> we<01:20:24.880> don't<01:20:25.000> have<01:20:25.080> a<01:20:25.120> lot<01:20:25.240> of<01:20:25.280> time.

1:20:25 mean we don’t have a lot of time. mean we don’t have a lot of time. » mean<01:20:25.560> we<01:20:25.600> need<01:20:25.720> Alicia<01:20:26.280> and<01:20:26.360> we<01:20:26.440> need<01:20:26.600> Mike.<01:20:27.000> So » mean we need Alicia and we need Mike. So » mean we need Alicia and we need Mike. So I<01:20:27.200> spoke<01:20:27.400> with<01:20:27.520> Alicia<01:20:27.840> yesterday<01:20:28.200> afternoon. I spoke with Alicia yesterday afternoon. I spoke with Alicia yesterday afternoon. She<01:20:28.960> is<01:20:29.120> back<01:20:29.640> tonight.<01:20:30.280> Her<01:20:30.400> and<01:20:30.520> I<01:20:30.600> are She is back tonight. Her and I are She is back tonight. Her and I are meeting<01:20:31.120> tomorrow.<01:20:31.760> Okay.<01:20:32.160> So<01:20:32.640> I<01:20:32.720> would<01:20:32.880> say meeting tomorrow. Okay. So I would say meeting tomorrow. Okay. So I would say like<01:20:33.160> you<01:20:33.280> guys<01:20:33.560> sit<01:20:33.760> in<01:20:33.880> a<01:20:33.920> room<01:20:34.440> and<01:20:34.720> don't like you guys sit in a room and don’t like you guys sit in a room and don’t leave<01:20:35.200> that<01:20:35.440> room<01:20:35.880> until<01:20:36.320> if<01:20:36.480> you<01:20:36.720> have<01:20:36.960> all leave that room until if you have all leave that room until if you have all your<01:20:37.320> questions<01:20:37.800> answered<01:20:38.280> and<01:20:38.400> you<01:20:38.560> feel your questions answered and you feel your questions answered and you feel good<01:20:39.080> about<01:20:39.400> the<01:20:39.480> numbers<01:20:39.880> that<01:20:39.960> she's good about the numbers that she’s good about the numbers that she’s providing<01:20:41.200> and<01:20:41.400> you<01:20:41.480> can<01:20:41.680> stand<01:20:41.920> behind<01:20:42.240> them. providing and you can stand behind them. providing and you can stand behind them. Yeah,<01:20:43.880> easier<01:20:44.200> said<01:20:44.360> than<01:20:44.480> I<01:20:44.640> I<01:20:44.680> No,<01:20:45.000> actually Yeah, easier said than I I No, actually Yeah, easier said than I I No, actually I<01:20:45.480> agree<01:20:45.680> Kurt.<01:20:46.040> I<01:20:46.080> mean<01:20:46.240> and<01:20:46.360> there<01:20:46.520> are<01:20:46.920> I I agree Kurt. I mean and there are I I agree Kurt. I mean and there are I really<01:20:47.280> think<01:20:47.440> there's<01:20:47.600> like<01:20:47.800> six<01:20:48.160> budget really think there’s like six budget really think there’s like six budget buckets<01:20:48.960> and<01:20:49.040> it's<01:20:49.160> the<01:20:49.280> buckets<01:20:49.600> that<01:20:49.720> we buckets and it’s the buckets that we buckets and it’s the buckets that we don’t<01:20:50.040> control.<01:20:50.640> Yeah.<01:20:50.880> So,<01:20:50.960> if<01:20:51.080> I<01:20:51.120> can don’t control. Yeah. So, if I can don’t control. Yeah. So, if I can understand<01:20:51.720> those<01:20:51.920> six<01:20:52.240> buckets<01:20:52.640> and<01:20:52.760> I<01:20:52.800> think understand those six buckets and I think understand those six buckets and I think I<01:20:53.160> understand<01:20:53.560> the<01:20:53.600> health<01:20:53.840> insurance<01:20:54.240> one I understand the health insurance one I understand the health insurance one cuz<01:20:54.800> I<01:20:54.880> have<01:20:55.080> the<01:20:55.200> roster.<01:20:55.920> Mhm.<01:20:56.320> I<01:20:56.360> think<01:20:56.560> I cuz I have the roster. Mhm. I think I cuz I have the roster. Mhm. I think I have<01:20:56.760> I<01:20:56.840> understand<01:20:57.200> the<01:20:57.240> retirement<01:20:57.960> cuz<01:20:58.160> I have I understand the retirement cuz I have I understand the retirement cuz I have<01:20:58.520> the<01:20:58.640> roster.<01:20:59.640> And<01:20:59.760> my<01:20:59.960> numbers<01:21:00.240> just have the roster. And my numbers just have the roster. And my numbers just don’t<01:21:01.040> match<01:21:02.080> the<01:21:02.200> numbers<01:21:02.600> that<01:21:03.040> that<01:21:03.320> are<01:21:03.560> in don’t match the numbers that that are in don’t match the numbers that that are in the<01:21:04.480> formula<01:21:04.880> spreadsheet. the formula spreadsheet. the formula spreadsheet. And<01:21:06.200> you're<01:21:06.320> right.<01:21:06.960> Maybe<01:21:07.320> one<01:21:07.480> of<01:21:07.560> the<01:21:07.640> other And you’re right. Maybe one of the other And you’re right. Maybe one of the other formulas<01:21:08.440> is<01:21:08.680> off<01:21:08.880> in<01:21:08.960> the<01:21:09.040> other<01:21:09.200> direction formulas is off in the other direction formulas is off in the other direction and<01:21:11.520> maybe<01:21:11.800> you're<01:21:11.920> right,<01:21:12.120> maybe<01:21:12.360> that<01:21:12.600> 1.5

1:21:13 and maybe you’re right, maybe that 1.5 and maybe you’re right, maybe that 1.5 is<01:21:13.400> now<01:21:13.640> 1.8<01:21:14.360> and<01:21:15.040> but is now 1.8 and but is now 1.8 and but I<01:21:16.400> think<01:21:16.600> we<01:21:16.720> just<01:21:16.920> need<01:21:17.080> to<01:21:17.160> know<01:21:17.280> what<01:21:17.400> the I think we just need to know what the I think we just need to know what the real<01:21:17.680> number<01:21:17.920> is.<01:21:18.320> And<01:21:18.400> once<01:21:18.560> we<01:21:18.680> know<01:21:18.800> what real number is. And once we know what real number is. And once we know what the<01:21:19.000> real<01:21:19.160> number<01:21:19.360> is,<01:21:19.600> we<01:21:19.760> will<01:21:19.960> work<01:21:20.320> through the real number is, we will work through the real number is, we will work through it.<01:21:20.520> It's<01:21:20.600> a<01:21:20.680> fully<01:21:20.960> reasonable.<01:21:21.440> We<01:21:21.560> got<01:21:21.680> to it. It’s a fully reasonable. We got to it. It’s a fully reasonable. We got to sit<01:21:21.960> side<01:21:22.200> by<01:21:22.400> side,<01:21:22.840> look<01:21:23.040> at<01:21:23.240> what<01:21:23.440> she<01:21:23.680> has, sit side by side, look at what she has, sit side by side, look at what she has, what<01:21:24.120> we<01:21:24.240> have<01:21:24.400> and<01:21:24.480> then what we have and then what we have and then I<01:21:26.560> think<01:21:26.800> we<01:21:27.120> asked<01:21:27.520> you I think we asked you I think we asked you for<01:21:28.800> 1.5. for 1.5. for 1.5. Okay.<01:21:30.840> So,<01:21:31.160> I<01:21:31.240> don't<01:21:31.360> have<01:21:31.560> full<01:21:31.720> authority Okay. So, I don’t have full authority Okay. So, I don’t have full authority here, here, here, but<01:21:33.080> I<01:21:33.160> can<01:21:33.320> tell<01:21:33.480> you<01:21:33.600> based<01:21:33.880> on but I can tell you based on but I can tell you based on conversations<01:21:34.680> I've<01:21:34.840> had, conversations I’ve had, conversations I’ve had, uh uh uh that’s<01:21:37.600> what<01:21:37.720> was<01:21:37.920> presented<01:21:38.880> and<01:21:39.000> what<01:21:39.200> we that’s what was presented and what we that’s what was presented and what we have<01:21:39.520> directed<01:21:40.600> our<01:21:40.760> town<01:21:41.000> administrator<01:21:42.120> and have directed our town administrator and have directed our town administrator and Alicia<01:21:42.640> to<01:21:42.760> work<01:21:43.040> on<01:21:43.240> with<01:21:43.960> in<01:21:44.120> our<01:21:44.480> scenario<01:21:45.000> B Alicia to work on with in our scenario B Alicia to work on with in our scenario B last<01:21:45.960> night. last night. last night. So,<01:21:47.720> I<01:21:47.840> think<01:21:48.160> that<01:21:48.400> if<01:21:48.560> you<01:21:48.680> want<01:21:48.840> to<01:21:48.920> set<01:21:49.440> a So, I think that if you want to set a So, I think that if you want to set a ceiling<01:21:50.000> on<01:21:50.160> it, ceiling on it, ceiling on it, okay? okay? okay? I I I again,<01:21:53.240> I'm<01:21:53.480> I'm<01:21:53.680> one<01:21:53.840> of<01:21:53.920> five<01:21:54.160> people,<01:21:55.160> but again, I’m I’m one of five people, but again, I’m I’m one of five people, but based<01:21:55.560> on<01:21:55.640> what<01:21:55.760> we<01:21:55.840> talked<01:21:56.160> about<01:21:56.400> last based on what we talked about last based on what we talked about last night,<01:21:57.360> those<01:21:57.640> are<01:21:57.680> the<01:21:57.760> assumptions<01:21:58.280> that

1:21:58 night, those are the assumptions that night, those are the assumptions that we’re<01:21:58.600> going<01:21:58.880> through<01:21:59.160> on<01:21:59.280> the<01:21:59.400> town<01:21:59.640> side. we’re going through on the town side. we’re going through on the town side. So,<01:22:01.400> you<01:22:01.520> know,<01:22:01.720> I<01:22:01.840> would<01:22:02.000> feel<01:22:02.200> comfortable So, you know, I would feel comfortable So, you know, I would feel comfortable if<01:22:03.440> we're<01:22:03.520> talking<01:22:03.800> about<01:22:03.920> a<01:22:03.960> range if we’re talking about a range if we’re talking about a range that<01:22:05.760> if<01:22:06.000> I<01:22:06.120> were<01:22:06.280> in<01:22:06.360> your<01:22:06.520> position,<01:22:07.520> that<01:22:07.640> I that if I were in your position, that I that if I were in your position, that I would<01:22:07.840> use<01:22:08.000> that<01:22:08.120> as<01:22:08.240> a<01:22:08.280> guide. would use that as a guide. would use that as a guide. But<01:22:10.520> we<01:22:10.640> have<01:22:10.760> everything<01:22:11.120> I<01:22:11.160> mean<01:22:11.320> don't But we have everything I mean don’t But we have everything I mean don’t So,<01:22:12.520> correct<01:22:12.840> me<01:22:12.920> if<01:22:13.040> I'm<01:22:13.120> wrong,<01:22:13.280> Dan.<01:22:13.880> What<01:22:14.000> I So, correct me if I’m wrong, Dan. What I So, correct me if I’m wrong, Dan. What I heard<01:22:14.200> last<01:22:14.400> night<01:22:14.560> too<01:22:14.680> is<01:22:14.760> that<01:22:14.880> you're heard last night too is that you’re heard last night too is that you’re looking<01:22:15.400> to<01:22:15.520> offset<01:22:15.960> the<01:22:16.080> increase<01:22:16.560> in<01:22:16.640> the looking to offset the increase in the looking to offset the increase in the cost<01:22:17.080> of<01:22:17.320> of<01:22:17.400> the<01:22:17.480> benefits.<01:22:18.400> So,<01:22:18.520> we're cost of of the benefits. So, we’re cost of of the benefits. So, we’re asking<01:22:19.280> just<01:22:19.560> to<01:22:19.680> we<01:22:19.840> want<01:22:20.040> to<01:22:20.360> we<01:22:20.480> want<01:22:20.640> to asking just to we want to we want to asking just to we want to we want to solidify<01:22:21.160> that<01:22:21.320> number.<01:22:21.640> If<01:22:21.800> you're<01:22:21.960> asking solidify that number. If you’re asking solidify that number. If you’re asking for<01:22:22.480> 1.5<01:22:23.040> million<01:22:23.240> cuz<01:22:23.400> that's<01:22:23.600> what<01:22:23.720> you<01:22:23.840> need for 1.5 million cuz that’s what you need for 1.5 million cuz that’s what you need and<01:22:25.000> whether<01:22:25.200> it's<01:22:25.360> encompassing<01:22:25.960> or<01:22:26.160> it's and whether it’s encompassing or it’s and whether it’s encompassing or it’s more<01:22:26.680> than<01:22:27.160> the<01:22:27.360> those<01:22:27.720> budgets<01:22:28.080> then more than the those budgets then more than the those budgets then then<01:22:29.440> ask<01:22:29.760> that<01:22:30.160> and<01:22:30.280> that's<01:22:30.480> something<01:22:30.760> that then ask that and that’s something that then ask that and that’s something that this<01:22:31.080> committee<01:22:31.360> can<01:22:31.480> ask. this committee can ask. this committee can ask. » that’s<01:22:31.880> not<01:22:32.000> what<01:22:32.120> I<01:22:32.200> said.<01:22:32.920> What<01:22:33.080> I<01:22:33.160> said<01:22:33.480> is » that’s not what I said. What I said is » that’s not what I said. What I said is that<01:22:33.760> when<01:22:33.920> Mike<01:22:34.200> and<01:22:34.320> Alicia<01:22:34.800> get<01:22:35.000> together that when Mike and Alicia get together that when Mike and Alicia get together and<01:22:35.400> reconcile, and reconcile, and reconcile, if<01:22:37.160> what<01:22:37.360> Al<01:22:37.560> just<01:22:37.760> suggested<01:22:38.280> that<01:22:38.400> that if what Al just suggested that that if what Al just suggested that that number<01:22:38.800> goes<01:22:39.040> up, number goes up, number goes up, we<01:22:40.520> are<01:22:40.600> not<01:22:41.440> again,<01:22:41.880> I<01:22:41.960> can<01:22:42.360> speak<01:22:42.640> for we are not again, I can speak for we are not again, I can speak for myself,<01:22:43.720> only<01:22:43.960> myself<01:22:44.400> cuz<01:22:44.600> I'm<01:22:45.040> one<01:22:45.240> person

1:22:45 myself, only myself cuz I’m one person myself, only myself cuz I’m one person here.<01:22:45.720> I'm<01:22:45.800> not<01:22:45.920> sitting<01:22:46.160> with<01:22:46.240> Mike<01:22:46.400> and here. I’m not sitting with Mike and here. I’m not sitting with Mike and Alicia. Alicia. Alicia. But<01:22:47.560> that<01:22:47.920> the<01:22:48.080> numbers<01:22:48.440> that<01:22:48.600> we<01:22:48.760> directed But that the numbers that we directed But that the numbers that we directed them<01:22:49.400> to<01:22:49.520> go<01:22:50.040> was<01:22:50.280> 1.5.<01:22:51.240> I'm<01:22:51.440> not<01:22:51.720> asking<01:22:52.120> for them to go was 1.5. I’m not asking for them to go was 1.5. I’m not asking for more. more. more. And<01:22:53.880> that's<01:22:54.120> not<01:22:54.280> what<01:22:54.440> Thatcher<01:22:55.040> and<01:22:55.160> Alicia And that’s not what Thatcher and Alicia And that’s not what Thatcher and Alicia are<01:22:55.960> working<01:22:56.360> on<01:22:56.600> on<01:22:56.720> their<01:22:56.920> side. are working on on their side. are working on on their side. That’s<01:22:59.240> all<01:22:59.400> I<01:22:59.480> can<01:22:59.640> contribute<01:23:00.200> from<01:23:00.360> that. That’s all I can contribute from that. That’s all I can contribute from that. If<01:23:00.840> I<01:23:00.920> was<01:23:01.120> in<01:23:01.200> your<01:23:01.360> position,<01:23:02.200> based<01:23:02.480> on<01:23:02.560> what If I was in your position, based on what If I was in your position, based on what we<01:23:02.760> talked<01:23:03.040> about<01:23:03.200> last<01:23:03.480> night,<01:23:04.160> which we talked about last night, which we talked about last night, which coincides<01:23:05.000> with<01:23:05.160> Al's<01:23:05.680> numbers, coincides with Al’s numbers, coincides with Al’s numbers, we<01:23:07.280> are<01:23:07.400> not<01:23:07.680> making<01:23:07.880> assumptions<01:23:08.840> that<01:23:09.000> these we are not making assumptions that these we are not making assumptions that these numbers<01:23:09.480> are<01:23:09.560> going<01:23:09.760> up. numbers are going up. numbers are going up. So<01:23:10.800> the<01:23:10.920> question<01:23:11.440> is So the question is So the question is when<01:23:13.080> Mike<01:23:13.360> and<01:23:13.480> Alicia<01:23:13.880> said,<01:23:14.360> you<01:23:14.440> know, when Mike and Alicia said, you know, when Mike and Alicia said, you know, does<01:23:15.040> the<01:23:15.120> number<01:23:15.440> go<01:23:15.560> down<01:23:16.480> and<01:23:16.680> if<01:23:16.840> so,<01:23:17.560> And does the number go down and if so, And does the number go down and if so, And it<01:23:17.720> might<01:23:17.920> come<01:23:18.120> down<01:23:18.400> if<01:23:18.760> the<01:23:18.880> insurance<01:23:19.480> gets it might come down if the insurance gets it might come down if the insurance gets reanalyzed.<01:23:20.520> She<01:23:20.720> she<01:23:21.560> on<01:23:21.800> the<01:23:21.880> fly<01:23:22.240> last<01:23:22.640> week reanalyzed. She she on the fly last week reanalyzed. She she on the fly last week changed<01:23:23.280> it<01:23:23.400> from<01:23:23.560> 15<01:23:24.000> to<01:23:24.120> 11.<01:23:25.160> We're<01:23:25.280> doing changed it from 15 to 11. We’re doing changed it from 15 to 11. We’re doing liaison<01:23:26.000> meetings,<01:23:26.280> guys.<01:23:26.640> Like<01:23:27.320> we're<01:23:27.480> late liaison meetings, guys. Like we’re late liaison meetings, guys. Like we’re late in<01:23:27.800> the<01:23:27.880> game,<01:23:28.120> too.<01:23:28.400> Like<01:23:28.720> I<01:23:28.800> know<01:23:28.920> there's<01:23:29.080> a in the game, too. Like I know there’s a in the game, too. Like I know there’s a lot<01:23:29.280> of<01:23:29.360> pressure<01:23:29.680> and<01:23:29.800> time<01:23:30.080> here.<01:23:30.240> You<01:23:30.320> can lot of pressure and time here. You can lot of pressure and time here. You can imagine<01:23:30.800> how<01:23:30.960> I<01:23:31.080> feel.<01:23:31.680> There's<01:23:31.840> zero<01:23:32.120> balance

1:23:32 imagine how I feel. There’s zero balance imagine how I feel. There’s zero balance budget.<01:23:32.880> We<01:23:33.000> have<01:23:33.600> We<01:23:33.680> have<01:23:33.800> to<01:23:33.880> vote<01:23:34.120> on<01:23:34.240> it<01:23:34.400> in budget. We have We have to vote on it in budget. We have We have to vote on it in 2<01:23:34.640> weeks,<01:23:34.920> the<01:23:34.960> whole<01:23:35.160> thing,<01:23:35.680> not<01:23:35.880> just<01:23:36.040> one, 2 weeks, the whole thing, not just one, 2 weeks, the whole thing, not just one, 15<01:23:37.000> of<01:23:37.080> them,<01:23:37.440> right?<01:23:37.840> So,<01:23:38.600> I<01:23:38.680> mean,<01:23:38.840> this 15 of them, right? So, I mean, this 15 of them, right? So, I mean, this isn’t<01:23:39.240> ideal<01:23:39.600> timing,<01:23:40.240> but<01:23:40.680> it<01:23:40.840> is<01:23:41.000> what<01:23:41.120> it isn’t ideal timing, but it is what it isn’t ideal timing, but it is what it is,<01:23:41.520> right?<01:23:42.080> So<01:23:42.280> I'm<01:23:42.440> wondering<01:23:42.960> if is, right? So I’m wondering if is, right? So I’m wondering if you<01:23:44.000> know,<01:23:44.120> if<01:23:44.320> you<01:23:44.600> and<01:23:44.720> Alicia<01:23:45.160> are<01:23:45.320> sitting you know, if you and Alicia are sitting you know, if you and Alicia are sitting down<01:23:45.920> tomorrow,<01:23:47.000> you<01:23:47.120> know,<01:23:47.360> does<01:23:47.720> Al<01:23:48.040> put down tomorrow, you know, does Al put down tomorrow, you know, does Al put school<01:23:48.840> committee<01:23:49.160> meeting<01:23:49.840> on<01:23:50.080> the<01:23:50.160> calendar school committee meeting on the calendar school committee meeting on the calendar for<01:23:51.480> I<01:23:51.560> mean,<01:23:51.760> Tuesday<01:23:52.240> sort<01:23:52.480> of<01:23:52.560> as<01:23:52.680> soon<01:23:52.920> as for I mean, Tuesday sort of as soon as for I mean, Tuesday sort of as soon as he<01:23:53.240> can<01:23:53.520> post<01:23:53.920> in<01:23:54.040> the<01:23:54.160> 48<01:23:54.680> hours,<01:23:55.760> you<01:23:55.840> know, he can post in the 48 hours, you know, he can post in the 48 hours, you know, so<01:23:56.040> that<01:23:56.200> we<01:23:56.320> can<01:23:56.560> come<01:23:56.760> back<01:23:57.360> and<01:23:57.560> have<01:23:57.840> that so that we can come back and have that so that we can come back and have that number<01:23:59.120> Or<01:23:59.560> you<01:23:59.680> can<01:23:59.800> just<01:24:00.040> say<01:24:00.720> or<01:24:00.920> you<01:24:01.040> can number Or you can just say or you can number Or you can just say or you can just<01:24:01.400> say<01:24:02.160> use<01:24:02.360> the<01:24:02.440> number<01:24:02.760> you<01:24:03.040> Well,<01:24:03.240> we're just say use the number you Well, we’re just say use the number you Well, we’re not<01:24:03.600> we're<01:24:03.680> not<01:24:03.920> we're<01:24:04.000> not<01:24:04.280> we're<01:24:04.360> not<01:24:04.520> doing not we’re not we’re not we’re not doing not we’re not we’re not we’re not doing anything<01:24:05.000> with<01:24:05.120> the<01:24:05.280> Yeah,<01:24:05.480> I<01:24:05.560> think<01:24:05.760> it's anything with the Yeah, I think it’s anything with the Yeah, I think it’s sort<01:24:06.000> of<01:24:06.080> a<01:24:06.160> question<01:24:06.640> of sort of a question of sort of a question of Yeah.<01:24:07.840> Where<01:24:08.120> you,<01:24:08.760> you<01:24:08.880> know,<01:24:09.040> you<01:24:09.200> keep<01:24:09.640> you Yeah. Where you, you know, you keep you Yeah. Where you, you know, you keep you say<01:24:10.000> you<01:24:10.120> want<01:24:10.320> direction,<01:24:11.120> but<01:24:11.400> so<01:24:11.560> is<01:24:11.760> it say you want direction, but so is it say you want direction, but so is it direction<01:24:12.440> that direction that direction that We<01:24:13.920> can't<01:24:14.160> submit<01:24:14.440> I'm<01:24:14.520> hearing<01:24:14.880> some<01:24:15.040> numbers We can’t submit I’m hearing some numbers We can’t submit I’m hearing some numbers 1.5.<01:24:16.120> I<01:24:16.160> mean,<01:24:16.520> actually<01:24:16.800> what<01:24:16.960> it<01:24:17.040> is<01:24:17.160> service 1.5. I mean, actually what it is service

1:24:17 1.5. I mean, actually what it is service than<01:24:17.680> that. than that. than that. That’s<01:24:18.680> that's<01:24:18.840> the<01:24:18.920> feeling,<01:24:19.400> yeah. That’s that’s the feeling, yeah. That’s that’s the feeling, yeah. That’s<01:24:21.240> a<01:24:21.320> flowing<01:24:21.720> number,<01:24:22.000> so<01:24:22.200> if<01:24:22.320> you<01:24:22.440> need That’s a flowing number, so if you need That’s a flowing number, so if you need whether<01:24:23.040> we<01:24:23.160> agree whether we agree whether we agree » you<01:24:23.680> I<01:24:23.880> I<01:24:24.000> think<01:24:24.520> scheduling<01:24:24.960> another<01:24:25.160> school » you I I think scheduling another school » you I I think scheduling another school committee<01:24:25.600> meeting<01:24:25.840> off<01:24:26.000> cycle committee meeting off cycle committee meeting off cycle might<01:24:27.800> not<01:24:27.960> be<01:24:28.080> necessary.<01:24:28.560> You<01:24:28.720> could<01:24:29.000> also might not be necessary. You could also might not be necessary. You could also just<01:24:29.720> have<01:24:29.880> this<01:24:30.080> be<01:24:30.200> the<01:24:30.320> main<01:24:30.640> agenda<01:24:31.000> item just have this be the main agenda item just have this be the main agenda item for<01:24:31.360> next<01:24:31.600> week's<01:24:31.800> meeting. for next week’s meeting. for next week’s meeting. There’s<01:24:33.000> a<01:24:33.040> meeting<01:24:33.320> next<01:24:33.560> week. There’s a meeting next week. There’s a meeting next week. Right,<01:24:34.800> but<01:24:34.920> it's<01:24:35.080> just,<01:24:36.080> you<01:24:36.160> know,<01:24:36.280> yeah, Right, but it’s just, you know, yeah, Right, but it’s just, you know, yeah, talking<01:24:37.160> about<01:24:37.400> the<01:24:37.480> timing<01:24:37.920> and<01:24:38.080> it's,<01:24:38.720> you talking about the timing and it’s, you talking about the timing and it’s, you know,<01:24:39.000> a<01:24:39.080> week<01:24:39.320> from<01:24:39.480> now<01:24:39.720> as<01:24:39.840> opposed<01:24:40.320> to know, a week from now as opposed to know, a week from now as opposed to Yeah,<01:24:41.280> but<01:24:41.400> we<01:24:41.520> still,<01:24:41.960> I<01:24:42.000> mean Yeah, but we still, I mean Yeah, but we still, I mean presumably<01:24:44.000> John,<01:24:44.480> if<01:24:44.640> you<01:24:44.720> get<01:24:44.880> this<01:24:45.000> number presumably John, if you get this number presumably John, if you get this number and<01:24:45.360> you'll<01:24:45.520> come<01:24:45.640> back<01:24:46.120> with<01:24:46.320> the<01:24:46.400> number<01:24:46.760> and and you’ll come back with the number and and you’ll come back with the number and with<01:24:47.240> the<01:24:47.400> suggested with the suggested with the suggested situation<01:24:50.280> to<01:24:50.360> meet<01:24:50.600> that<01:24:50.960> and<01:24:51.240> we<01:24:51.440> could situation to meet that and we could situation to meet that and we could potentially<01:24:52.160> vote<01:24:52.360> a potentially vote a potentially vote a budget<01:24:54.080> next<01:24:54.280> Thursday<01:24:54.520> night. budget next Thursday night. budget next Thursday night. Is<01:24:56.280> that<01:24:56.440> reasonable?<01:24:57.400> So<01:24:57.560> that Is that reasonable? So that Is that reasonable? So that it<01:24:58.800> sounds<01:24:59.040> like,<01:24:59.200> you<01:24:59.280> know,<01:24:59.400> 1.5<01:24:59.920> is<01:25:00.000> the it sounds like, you know, 1.5 is the it sounds like, you know, 1.5 is the ceiling.<01:25:00.960> If<01:25:01.040> you<01:25:01.160> were<01:25:01.240> willing<01:25:01.440> to<01:25:01.520> agree<01:25:01.960> to ceiling. If you were willing to agree to ceiling. If you were willing to agree to a<01:25:02.400> different<01:25:02.760> number,<01:25:03.360> that's<01:25:03.640> fine.<01:25:04.200> Well,<01:25:04.240> I

1:25:04 a different number, that’s fine. Well, I a different number, that’s fine. Well, I think<01:25:04.520> if<01:25:04.640> we<01:25:04.840> if<01:25:05.000> we<01:25:05.120> come<01:25:05.280> up<01:25:05.400> with<01:25:05.520> different think if we if we come up with different think if we if we come up with different numbers,<01:25:06.120> we<01:25:06.240> need<01:25:06.400> to<01:25:06.480> go<01:25:06.560> back<01:25:06.760> to<01:25:06.840> FinCom numbers, we need to go back to FinCom numbers, we need to go back to FinCom which<01:25:07.480> will<01:25:07.960> re-populate<01:25:08.880> the<01:25:08.960> spreadsheet. which will re-populate the spreadsheet. which will re-populate the spreadsheet. And<01:25:10.160> how<01:25:10.240> does<01:25:10.400> that<01:25:10.520> affect<01:25:10.760> the<01:25:10.800> town? And how does that affect the town? And how does that affect the town? I<01:25:11.920> don't<01:25:12.120> know.<01:25:12.520> If<01:25:12.640> that<01:25:12.760> number<01:25:13.000> comes<01:25:13.280> down, I don’t know. If that number comes down, I don’t know. If that number comes down, it<01:25:13.600> comes<01:25:13.920> down<01:25:14.160> and<01:25:14.280> adds<01:25:14.520> more<01:25:14.680> cuts<01:25:14.960> and<01:25:15.080> you it comes down and adds more cuts and you it comes down and adds more cuts and you just<01:25:15.320> put<01:25:15.440> a<01:25:15.520> ceiling<01:25:15.880> on<01:25:16.040> it<01:25:16.320> and<01:25:16.400> they just put a ceiling on it and they just put a ceiling on it and they already<01:25:16.960> are<01:25:17.120> working<01:25:17.480> towards<01:25:17.800> that,<01:25:18.080> so. already are working towards that, so. already are working towards that, so. Well,<01:25:18.760> if<01:25:18.880> it<01:25:19.000> comes<01:25:19.240> down<01:25:19.400> for<01:25:19.560> us,<01:25:19.760> why Well, if it comes down for us, why Well, if it comes down for us, why wouldn’t<01:25:20.240> if<01:25:20.400> it's<01:25:20.520> based<01:25:20.760> on<01:25:20.840> insurance,<01:25:21.160> why wouldn’t if it’s based on insurance, why wouldn’t if it’s based on insurance, why wouldn’t<01:25:21.480> it<01:25:21.520> go<01:25:21.600> down<01:25:21.760> for<01:25:21.880> them? wouldn’t it go down for them? wouldn’t it go down for them? I<01:25:22.880> think<01:25:23.240> I<01:25:23.280> think<01:25:23.520> the<01:25:23.600> the<01:25:23.880> base<01:25:24.320> The<01:25:24.360> amount I think I think the the base The amount I think I think the the base The amount of<01:25:24.680> the<01:25:24.760> savings<01:25:25.520> is<01:25:25.680> in<01:25:25.800> the<01:25:25.880> insurance.<01:25:27.080> And of the savings is in the insurance. And of the savings is in the insurance. And if<01:25:27.320> the<01:25:27.400> insurance<01:25:27.760> is<01:25:27.880> high,<01:25:28.040> it's<01:25:28.160> high<01:25:28.320> on if the insurance is high, it’s high on if the insurance is high, it’s high on both<01:25:28.720> sides.<01:25:29.520> If<01:25:29.640> I<01:25:29.680> got<01:25:30.120> ours<01:25:30.320> down,<01:25:30.680> I<01:25:30.760> don't both sides. If I got ours down, I don’t both sides. If I got ours down, I don’t not<01:25:31.920> to<01:25:32.000> be<01:25:32.120> crass not to be crass not to be crass I<01:25:33.440> don't<01:25:33.600> care<01:25:33.800> if<01:25:33.880> Lisa<01:25:34.120> brings<01:25:34.320> her<01:25:34.440> side I don’t care if Lisa brings her side I don’t care if Lisa brings her side down.<01:25:35.120> I'm<01:25:35.280> worried<01:25:35.480> about<01:25:35.800> our<01:25:36.000> budget<01:25:36.360> and down. I’m worried about our budget and down. I’m worried about our budget and our<01:25:36.760> staff. our staff. our staff. And<01:25:38.120> I<01:25:38.160> don't<01:25:38.440> I<01:25:38.480> don't<01:25:38.600> care<01:25:38.680> if<01:25:38.760> Lisa<01:25:38.960> brings And I don’t I don’t care if Lisa brings And I don’t I don’t care if Lisa brings her<01:25:39.200> side her side her side What’s<01:25:40.680> that?<01:25:40.920> Yes,<01:25:41.120> it'll<01:25:41.280> be<01:25:41.360> done<01:25:41.600> on<01:25:41.720> the What’s that? Yes, it’ll be done on the What’s that? Yes, it’ll be done on the same<01:25:42.040> allocation.<01:25:42.600> You<01:25:42.680> guys<01:25:42.920> bring<01:25:43.120> them same allocation. You guys bring them same allocation. You guys bring them solid<01:25:43.480> numbers,<01:25:44.480> get<01:25:44.680> to<01:25:44.760> that<01:25:44.920> percentage, solid numbers, get to that percentage, solid numbers, get to that percentage, actuals.<01:25:46.960> This<01:25:47.200> percentage<01:25:47.720> was<01:25:47.880> done<01:25:48.560> to<01:25:48.680> do actuals. This percentage was done to do actuals. This percentage was done to do this.<01:25:49.120> Get<01:25:49.360> to<01:25:49.480> actuals.<01:25:50.600> Okay,<01:25:50.800> this<01:25:50.960> is<01:25:51.080> the

1:25:51 this. Get to actuals. Okay, this is the this. Get to actuals. Okay, this is the intention<01:25:51.600> of<01:25:51.680> the<01:25:51.840> I<01:25:52.040> think<01:25:52.280> she<01:25:52.480> she<01:25:52.760> was intention of the I think she she was intention of the I think she she was using<01:25:53.320> actuals.<01:25:53.840> I<01:25:54.080> don't<01:25:54.440> she's<01:25:54.640> not<01:25:54.800> in<01:25:54.920> the using actuals. I don’t she’s not in the using actuals. I don’t she’s not in the room<01:25:55.200> to<01:25:55.320> defend<01:25:55.720> what<01:25:55.880> she<01:25:56.040> did,<01:25:56.320> but<01:25:56.840> she room to defend what she did, but she room to defend what she did, but she wasn’t<01:25:57.400> she<01:25:57.520> was<01:25:57.640> using<01:25:58.000> actuals,<01:25:58.520> so<01:25:58.680> I<01:25:58.760> think wasn’t she was using actuals, so I think wasn’t she was using actuals, so I think it’s<01:25:59.160> a<01:25:59.200> great it’s a great it’s a great » due<01:25:59.680> respect,<01:26:00.440> our<01:26:00.600> budget's<01:26:00.880> been<01:26:01.000> done<01:26:01.240> for » due respect, our budget’s been done for » due respect, our budget’s been done for 2<01:26:01.560> months.<01:26:01.840> We<01:26:01.960> presented<01:26:02.400> them<01:26:02.560> a<01:26:02.600> month<01:26:02.800> ago. 2 months. We presented them a month ago. 2 months. We presented them a month ago. Yeah.<01:26:04.160> This<01:26:04.760> we<01:26:04.960> didn't<01:26:05.200> stall<01:26:05.520> this.<01:26:05.960> We<01:26:06.280> and Yeah. This we didn’t stall this. We and Yeah. This we didn’t stall this. We and and<01:26:06.640> I<01:26:06.720> get<01:26:07.000> that.<01:26:07.160> And<01:26:07.280> neither<01:26:07.520> did<01:26:07.720> anybody and I get that. And neither did anybody and I get that. And neither did anybody over<01:26:08.360> there. over there. over there. But<01:26:09.440> we<01:26:09.640> are<01:26:09.840> where<01:26:10.000> we<01:26:10.160> are.<01:26:10.400> We're<01:26:10.640> ready. But we are where we are. We’re ready. But we are where we are. We’re ready. Like<01:26:11.440> we<01:26:11.600> were<01:26:11.800> ready. Like we were ready. Like we were ready. We<01:26:13.800> were<01:26:13.920> sprung<01:26:14.440> like<01:26:14.680> last<01:26:15.040> Wednesday<01:26:15.480> night We were sprung like last Wednesday night We were sprung like last Wednesday night that<01:26:17.160> 1.5<01:26:17.880> needed<01:26:18.000> to<01:26:18.080> be<01:26:18.160> cut<01:26:18.440> our<01:26:18.560> budget that 1.5 needed to be cut our budget that 1.5 needed to be cut our budget after<01:26:19.160> we<01:26:19.520> presented<01:26:20.000> and<01:26:20.080> had<01:26:20.200> a<01:26:20.240> hearing, after we presented and had a hearing, after we presented and had a hearing, had<01:26:21.520> a<01:26:21.560> school<01:26:21.800> committee<01:26:22.040> meeting<01:26:22.200> the<01:26:22.280> next had a school committee meeting the next had a school committee meeting the next night.<01:26:23.320> I<01:26:23.360> mean,<01:26:23.600> we're<01:26:23.760> under<01:26:23.920> the<01:26:24.000> gun.<01:26:24.320> I night. I mean, we’re under the gun. I night. I mean, we’re under the gun. I think<01:26:24.600> we're<01:26:24.760> working<01:26:25.240> to<01:26:25.400> get<01:26:25.680> there. think we’re working to get there. think we’re working to get there. I<01:26:27.320> just<01:26:27.520> don't<01:26:27.760> feel<01:26:28.000> like I just don’t feel like I just don’t feel like we<01:26:30.160> are we are we are allowed<01:26:31.880> to<01:26:32.040> analyze<01:26:32.520> the<01:26:32.640> data<01:26:32.920> that<01:26:33.080> we're allowed to analyze the data that we’re allowed to analyze the data that we’re asked<01:26:33.520> to asked to asked to vote<01:26:35.680> on.<01:26:36.080> You<01:26:36.280> You<01:26:36.400> can<01:26:36.600> look<01:26:36.800> at<01:26:36.960> it.<01:26:37.080> Do<01:26:37.160> you

1:26:37 vote on. You You can look at it. Do you vote on. You You can look at it. Do you think<01:26:37.480> it's<01:26:37.640> zero?<01:26:38.320> Do<01:26:38.400> you<01:26:38.480> think<01:26:38.640> there's think it’s zero? Do you think there’s think it’s zero? Do you think there’s zero<01:26:39.160> costs<01:26:39.800> on<01:26:39.920> the<01:26:40.080> on<01:26:40.240> the<01:26:40.400> town<01:26:40.680> side<01:26:40.920> of zero costs on the on the town side of zero costs on the on the town side of this?<01:26:41.520> I<01:26:41.640> do<01:26:41.800> not.<01:26:42.240> Okay.<01:26:42.680> So,<01:26:43.360> the<01:26:43.400> question this? I do not. Okay. So, the question this? I do not. Okay. So, the question is<01:26:43.840> how<01:26:44.040> far<01:26:44.280> can<01:26:44.400> you<01:26:44.520> bring<01:26:44.680> it<01:26:44.800> down<01:26:45.080> if is how far can you bring it down if is how far can you bring it down if you’re<01:26:45.320> questioning<01:26:45.800> her<01:26:45.920> data? you’re questioning her data? you’re questioning her data? But<01:26:47.040> that's<01:26:47.320> my<01:26:47.680> That's<01:26:47.880> my<01:26:48.120> Question<01:26:48.440> the But that’s my That’s my Question the But that’s my That’s my Question the data.<01:26:48.840> It's<01:26:49.040> not<01:26:49.200> It's<01:26:49.320> not<01:26:49.480> question.<01:26:49.920> I<01:26:50.000> just data. It’s not It’s not question. I just data. It’s not It’s not question. I just want<01:26:50.280> I<01:26:50.360> want<01:26:50.480> to<01:26:50.560> say<01:26:50.640> this<01:26:50.760> clearly.<01:26:51.160> I<01:26:51.320> I want I want to say this clearly. I I want I want to say this clearly. I I don’t<01:26:51.760> I'm<01:26:51.840> not<01:26:52.200> I'm<01:26:52.360> not<01:26:52.560> questioning don’t I’m not I’m not questioning don’t I’m not I’m not questioning Alicia’s<01:26:53.320> ability<01:26:53.680> to<01:26:53.760> do<01:26:53.840> that.<01:26:54.200> I'm<01:26:54.720> What Alicia’s ability to do that. I’m What Alicia’s ability to do that. I’m What I’m<01:26:55.080> questioning<01:26:55.640> is I’m questioning is I’m questioning is we<01:26:56.800> went<01:26:57.040> from<01:26:57.440> 18%<01:26:58.360> at<01:26:58.480> one<01:26:58.680> point<01:26:58.920> on we went from 18% at one point on we went from 18% at one point on insurance<01:26:59.680> to<01:26:59.840> 15<01:27:01.040> and<01:27:01.240> a<01:27:01.320> seven<01:27:02.480> to<01:27:02.680> a<01:27:02.760> 12<01:27:03.200> and insurance to 15 and a seven to a 12 and insurance to 15 and a seven to a 12 and a<01:27:03.360> nine. a nine. a nine. » Yeah,<01:27:04.040> and<01:27:04.160> the<01:27:04.240> GIC<01:27:04.880> voted<01:27:05.200> last<01:27:05.480> week. » Yeah, and the GIC voted last week. » Yeah, and the GIC voted last week. » I<01:27:05.880> understand<01:27:06.280> that.<01:27:06.400> Well,<01:27:06.520> and<01:27:06.640> that's<01:27:06.880> my » I understand that. Well, and that’s my » I understand that. Well, and that’s my That’s<01:27:07.440> exactly<01:27:07.960> That's<01:27:08.240> Yeah,<01:27:08.400> so<01:27:08.520> how<01:27:08.640> did That’s exactly That’s Yeah, so how did That’s exactly That’s Yeah, so how did she<01:27:08.920> have<01:27:09.120> actuals?<01:27:09.800> You're<01:27:09.880> using<01:27:10.240> old<01:27:10.480> data she have actuals? You’re using old data she have actuals? You’re using old data to<01:27:11.480> tell<01:27:11.680> us<01:27:11.800> we<01:27:11.960> need<01:27:12.040> 1.5.<01:27:13.080> That<01:27:13.280> data<01:27:13.520> was to tell us we need 1.5. That data was to tell us we need 1.5. That data was out<01:27:14.400> You're<01:27:14.920> She's<01:27:15.360> She's<01:27:15.600> using<01:27:15.840> the<01:27:15.960> ratio out You’re She’s She’s using the ratio out You’re She’s She’s using the ratio from<01:27:16.800> actuals<01:27:17.440> and<01:27:17.560> applying<01:27:18.080> it<01:27:18.200> to<01:27:18.320> the<01:27:18.400> new from actuals and applying it to the new from actuals and applying it to the new budget. budget. budget. On<01:27:20.000> last<01:27:20.240> Wednesday<01:27:20.520> night,<01:27:21.240> Yeah.<01:27:21.840> Patrick On last Wednesday night, Yeah. Patrick On last Wednesday night, Yeah. Patrick said<01:27:22.400> we<01:27:22.480> need<01:27:22.640> the<01:27:22.720> schools<01:27:22.960> to<01:27:23.040> cut<01:27:23.240> 1.5.<01:27:24.440> On

1:27:24 said we need the schools to cut 1.5. On said we need the schools to cut 1.5. On Thursday,<01:27:24.920> the<01:27:25.080> GIC<01:27:25.640> voted.<01:27:26.080> On<01:27:26.280> Friday,<01:27:26.600> we Thursday, the GIC voted. On Friday, we Thursday, the GIC voted. On Friday, we got<01:27:27.000> the<01:27:27.080> new<01:27:27.240> rate. got the new rate. got the new rate. » Yes,<01:27:27.720> and<01:27:27.840> I've<01:27:28.000> updated<01:27:28.480> the<01:27:28.560> spreadsheet<01:27:29.160> to » Yes, and I’ve updated the spreadsheet to » Yes, and I’ve updated the spreadsheet to reflect<01:27:29.840> to<01:27:30.040> to reflect to to reflect to to » And<01:27:30.320> our<01:27:30.440> 1.5<01:27:31.040> didn't<01:27:31.200> change<01:27:31.440> with<01:27:31.560> the<01:27:31.640> new<01:27:31.800> I » And our 1.5 didn’t change with the new I » And our 1.5 didn’t change with the new I I<01:27:32.040> don't<01:27:32.360> understand. I don’t understand. I don’t understand. It<01:27:34.000> It's<01:27:34.280> It's<01:27:34.640> been<01:27:34.840> shifting<01:27:35.440> to<01:27:35.560> like<01:27:35.840> 1.59 It It’s It’s been shifting to like 1.59 It It’s It’s been shifting to like 1.59 to<01:27:37.080> 1.47<01:27:38.160> as<01:27:38.360> we've<01:27:38.520> changed<01:27:38.960> the<01:27:39.120> the to 1.47 as we’ve changed the the to 1.47 as we’ve changed the the amounts. amounts. amounts. » And this<01:27:39.920> is<01:27:40.000> going<01:27:40.280> This<01:27:40.720> I'm<01:27:40.840> not<01:27:41.080> trying<01:27:41.320> to » And this is going This I’m not trying to » And this is going This I’m not trying to get<01:27:41.480> controversial<01:27:42.040> with<01:27:42.120> you<01:27:42.200> guys<01:27:42.360> cuz<01:27:42.480> I<01:27:42.840> I get controversial with you guys cuz I I get controversial with you guys cuz I I have<01:27:43.040> I<01:27:43.080> have<01:27:43.200> a<01:27:43.240> lot<01:27:43.480> of<01:27:43.560> issues<01:27:43.800> Yeah,<01:27:43.920> but<01:27:44.000> I have I have a lot of issues Yeah, but I have I have a lot of issues Yeah, but I mean,<01:27:44.200> a<01:27:44.280> couple<01:27:44.600> A<01:27:44.680> couple<01:27:45.000> percent<01:27:45.440> doesn't mean, a couple A couple percent doesn’t mean, a couple A couple percent doesn’t shift<01:27:46.080> this<01:27:46.240> that<01:27:46.480> much.<01:27:47.240> So,<01:27:47.440> So,<01:27:47.680> if<01:27:47.840> you shift this that much. So, So, if you shift this that much. So, So, if you drill<01:27:48.320> into<01:27:48.560> this<01:27:48.800> and<01:27:49.200> shift<01:27:49.560> the<01:27:49.680> 62<01:27:50.240> to<01:27:50.360> 60, drill into this and shift the 62 to 60, drill into this and shift the 62 to 60, it’s<01:27:51.320> not<01:27:51.520> going<01:27:51.640> to<01:27:51.680> directionally<01:27:52.200> change it’s not going to directionally change it’s not going to directionally change it<01:27:52.600> that<01:27:52.720> much.<01:27:52.840> Eighteen<01:27:53.040> million<01:27:53.400> dollars it that much. Eighteen million dollars it that much. Eighteen million dollars in<01:27:53.840> benefits,<01:27:54.800> 2%<01:27:55.400> can<01:27:55.520> shift<01:27:55.760> that<01:27:55.920> a<01:27:55.960> lot<01:27:56.240> for in benefits, 2% can shift that a lot for in benefits, 2% can shift that a lot for us.<01:27:56.640> That<01:27:56.840> Those<01:27:57.080> are<01:27:57.160> positions.<01:27:58.320> Right. us. That Those are positions. Right. us. That Those are positions. Right. I<01:27:59.360> mean,<01:27:59.520> I<01:27:59.600> I<01:27:59.680> know<01:28:00.120> big<01:28:00.360> numbers<01:28:00.760> it<01:28:00.960> it I mean, I I know big numbers it it I mean, I I know big numbers it it doesn’t<01:28:01.360> look<01:28:01.520> like<01:28:01.680> a<01:28:01.760> lot,<01:28:02.600> but<01:28:02.960> if<01:28:03.000> I<01:28:03.040> can doesn’t look like a lot, but if I can doesn’t look like a lot, but if I can find<01:28:03.720> enough<01:28:03.880> funds<01:28:04.120> to<01:28:04.640> I<01:28:04.720> can<01:28:04.840> find<01:28:05.040> enough find enough funds to I can find enough find enough funds to I can find enough funds<01:28:05.560> to<01:28:05.680> save<01:28:05.920> a<01:28:05.960> position, funds to save a position, funds to save a position, that’s<01:28:08.000> what<01:28:08.160> That's<01:28:08.360> what<01:28:08.520> my<01:28:08.760> job<01:28:09.080> is.<01:28:09.240> I that’s what That’s what my job is. I that’s what That’s what my job is. I have<01:28:09.400> to,<01:28:09.600> you<01:28:09.680> know,<01:28:09.800> advocate<01:28:10.200> for<01:28:10.280> the

1:28:10 have to, you know, advocate for the have to, you know, advocate for the students<01:28:10.760> and<01:28:10.880> the<01:28:10.920> schools. students and the schools. students and the schools. You<01:28:13.040> guys<01:28:13.240> presented<01:28:13.600> 1.5<01:28:14.280> million<01:28:14.480> less<01:28:14.640> than You guys presented 1.5 million less than You guys presented 1.5 million less than I<01:28:14.800> had<01:28:14.880> last<01:28:15.080> year<01:28:15.160> did. I had last year did. I had last year did. The<01:28:16.280> GIC<01:28:16.760> rates<01:28:16.960> came<01:28:17.200> out<01:28:17.320> on<01:28:17.480> Friday.<01:28:17.880> I<01:28:18.000> get The GIC rates came out on Friday. I get The GIC rates came out on Friday. I get a<01:28:18.200> full<01:28:18.440> announce<01:28:18.760> for<01:28:19.000> every<01:28:19.400> staff<01:28:19.760> member a full announce for every staff member a full announce for every staff member on<01:28:20.280> what<01:28:20.480> their<01:28:20.640> rate<01:28:20.840> was.<01:28:21.560> And<01:28:21.720> I<01:28:21.840> I<01:28:21.920> have<01:28:22.080> a on what their rate was. And I I have a on what their rate was. And I I have a $350,000<01:28:23.600> difference<01:28:24.040> from<01:28:24.440> Alicia<01:28:24.800> plus<01:28:25.080> a $350,000 difference from Alicia plus a $350,000 difference from Alicia plus a $350,000 $350,000 $350,000 » schedule<01:28:27.040> the<01:28:27.200> schedule<01:28:27.720> was<01:28:27.920> reacting<01:28:28.640> to » schedule the schedule was reacting to » schedule the schedule was reacting to newspaper<01:28:30.000> articles<01:28:30.440> a<01:28:30.520> week<01:28:30.760> before<01:28:32.000> it<01:28:32.160> came newspaper articles a week before it came newspaper articles a week before it came out<01:28:32.760> that<01:28:33.320> that<01:28:33.640> the<01:28:34.040> what<01:28:34.160> was<01:28:34.280> it?<01:28:34.360> The<01:28:34.480> GLP-1 out that that the what was it? The GLP-1 out that that the what was it? The GLP-1 was<01:28:35.600> out.<01:28:36.320> It<01:28:36.400> was<01:28:36.560> it<01:28:36.680> was<01:28:36.800> already<01:28:37.040> reported was out. It was it was already reported was out. It was it was already reported that<01:28:37.680> that<01:28:37.920> that<01:28:38.040> the that that that the that that that the » You<01:28:38.240> guys<01:28:38.520> came<01:28:38.720> up<01:28:38.800> with<01:28:38.920> 11%<01:28:39.680> in<01:28:39.760> government » You guys came up with 11% in government » You guys came up with 11% in government formula.<01:28:40.480> I<01:28:40.560> have<01:28:40.760> 9.6%. formula. I have 9.6%. formula. I have 9.6%. And<01:28:43.480> and<01:28:43.600> if<01:28:43.760> we<01:28:43.880> bring<01:28:44.080> that<01:28:44.280> down<01:28:44.480> again, And and if we bring that down again, And and if we bring that down again, what<01:28:45.120> I<01:28:45.160> said<01:28:45.400> earlier<01:28:45.720> is<01:28:45.840> that<01:28:46.120> this<01:28:46.400> 1.5 what I said earlier is that this 1.5 what I said earlier is that this 1.5 will<01:28:47.160> come<01:28:47.360> down. will come down. will come down. We’re<01:28:49.400> now<01:28:49.640> reviewing<01:28:50.080> We're<01:28:50.240> voting<01:28:50.360> on We’re now reviewing We’re voting on We’re now reviewing We’re voting on whatever<01:28:50.800> comes<01:28:51.080> down.<01:28:51.400> We<01:28:51.440> shouldn't<01:28:51.680> be whatever comes down. We shouldn’t be whatever comes down. We shouldn’t be voting<01:28:52.040> on<01:28:52.120> 1.5<01:28:53.320> and<01:28:53.440> we<01:28:53.520> shouldn't<01:28:53.720> be voting on 1.5 and we shouldn’t be voting on 1.5 and we shouldn’t be planning<01:28:54.760> cuts<01:28:55.320> that<01:28:55.440> don't<01:28:55.640> need<01:28:55.800> to<01:28:55.920> occur.

1:28:57 planning cuts that don’t need to occur. planning cuts that don’t need to occur. This<01:28:57.840> $350,000 This $350,000 This $350,000 difference<01:28:59.760> between<01:29:00.480> what<01:29:00.600> Alicia<01:29:00.960> put<01:29:01.160> in difference between what Alicia put in difference between what Alicia put in that<01:29:01.400> spreadsheet<01:29:01.840> that<01:29:02.000> Thatcher<01:29:02.280> showed that spreadsheet that Thatcher showed that spreadsheet that Thatcher showed last<01:29:02.800> Wednesday<01:29:03.120> and<01:29:03.200> what<01:29:03.320> I<01:29:03.440> have<01:29:04.120> plus last Wednesday and what I have plus last Wednesday and what I have plus another<01:29:04.640> $350,000<01:29:05.920> buffer.<01:29:06.240> That's<01:29:06.560> 750 another $350,000 buffer. That’s 750 another $350,000 buffer. That’s 750 that’s<01:29:07.680> $700,000. that’s $700,000. that’s $700,000. Which<01:29:09.520> is<01:29:09.680> half<01:29:09.920> of<01:29:10.000> what<01:29:10.120> you're<01:29:10.240> asking<01:29:10.520> us Which is half of what you’re asking us Which is half of what you’re asking us to<01:29:10.680> come<01:29:10.840> up<01:29:10.960> with.<01:29:11.640> I'm<01:29:11.760> going<01:29:11.880> to<01:29:11.960> just<01:29:12.120> come to come up with. I’m going to just come to come up with. I’m going to just come up<01:29:12.320> with<01:29:12.520> half. up with half. up with half. I<01:29:14.480> don't<01:29:14.640> know<01:29:14.720> why<01:29:14.880> nobody<01:29:15.240> wants<01:29:15.520> us<01:29:15.640> to<01:29:15.720> go I don’t know why nobody wants us to go I don’t know why nobody wants us to go look<01:29:16.120> at<01:29:16.200> the<01:29:16.320> data. look at the data. look at the data. » Al<01:29:17.720> Al<01:29:17.920> I<01:29:17.960> think<01:29:18.200> you<01:29:18.280> should<01:29:18.480> step<01:29:18.760> in<01:29:18.880> here » Al Al I think you should step in here » Al Al I think you should step in here and<01:29:20.080> we<01:29:20.160> need<01:29:20.280> to<01:29:20.360> move<01:29:20.560> this.<01:29:20.880> because<01:29:21.400> I and we need to move this. because I and we need to move this. because I agree<01:29:21.880> like<01:29:22.640> if<01:29:22.920> honestly<01:29:23.440> you<01:29:23.680> sit<01:29:23.920> with<01:29:24.040> her agree like if honestly you sit with her agree like if honestly you sit with her and<01:29:24.440> there's<01:29:24.720> $750,000<01:29:26.160> in<01:29:26.320> cuts<01:29:26.640> that<01:29:26.760> don't and there’s $750,000 in cuts that don’t and there’s $750,000 in cuts that don’t have<01:29:27.080> to<01:29:27.160> happen.<01:29:27.920> I<01:29:28.000> mean<01:29:28.280> I'm<01:29:28.400> going<01:29:28.520> to<01:29:28.600> get have to happen. I mean I’m going to get have to happen. I mean I’m going to get you<01:29:28.920> on<01:29:29.040> metal.<01:29:29.640> Like<01:29:29.880> that<01:29:30.040> would<01:29:30.160> be you on metal. Like that would be you on metal. Like that would be fabulous,<01:29:31.520> right?<01:29:31.840> So<01:29:31.960> like<01:29:32.600> please<01:29:33.000> do.<01:29:33.480> Like fabulous, right? So like please do. Like fabulous, right? So like please do. Like honestly<01:29:34.360> like<01:29:34.560> if<01:29:34.760> that's<01:29:35.000> something<01:29:35.320> that honestly like if that’s something that honestly like if that’s something that and<01:29:35.680> it's<01:29:35.800> something<01:29:36.080> you<01:29:36.160> need<01:29:36.440> us<01:29:36.600> to and it’s something you need us to and it’s something you need us to participate<01:29:37.400> in<01:29:37.920> then<01:29:38.440> you<01:29:38.560> know,<01:29:39.080> I'm<01:29:39.240> happy participate in then you know, I’m happy participate in then you know, I’m happy to<01:29:39.640> sit<01:29:39.880> with<01:29:40.160> you<01:29:40.280> because<01:29:40.600> I<01:29:40.680> think<01:29:40.840> that to sit with you because I think that to sit with you because I think that would<01:29:41.080> be<01:29:41.400> a<01:29:41.480> fabulous<01:29:42.040> outcome,<01:29:42.520> honestly.

1:29:43 would be a fabulous outcome, honestly. would be a fabulous outcome, honestly. Um<01:29:43.720> Al<01:29:44.600> Al Um Al Al Um Al Al I’d<01:29:45.760> like<01:29:45.960> to<01:29:46.080> make<01:29:46.280> a<01:29:46.320> motion<01:29:46.920> that<01:29:47.400> we<01:29:48.200> direct I’d like to make a motion that we direct I’d like to make a motion that we direct Mike<01:29:49.560> and<01:29:49.720> John<01:29:50.000> to<01:29:50.120> work<01:29:50.320> together<01:29:50.920> with<01:29:51.440> the Mike and John to work together with the Mike and John to work together with the finance<01:29:51.920> director<01:29:52.800> to finance director to finance director to um<01:29:54.200> solidify<01:29:54.600> these<01:29:54.760> numbers<01:29:55.520> and<01:29:55.600> we<01:29:55.680> come um solidify these numbers and we come um solidify these numbers and we come back back back next<01:29:57.520> week<01:29:57.720> with<01:29:57.840> a<01:29:57.880> presentation. With with a new presentation and a With with a new presentation and a budget<01:30:03.040> reflecting<01:30:03.800> whatever<01:30:04.080> numbers<01:30:04.480> that budget reflecting whatever numbers that budget reflecting whatever numbers that Mike<01:30:04.960> and<01:30:05.720> Alicia<01:30:06.040> agree<01:30:06.320> to. Mike and Alicia agree to. Mike and Alicia agree to. Right. Right. Right. I’ll<01:30:08.920> second<01:30:09.280> that. I’ll second that. I’ll second that. Okay,<01:30:11.120> motion<01:30:11.480> has<01:30:11.560> been<01:30:11.720> made<01:30:11.920> by<01:30:12.080> Jen. Okay, motion has been made by Jen. Okay, motion has been made by Jen. Seconded<01:30:14.120> by<01:30:14.760> Melissa. Seconded by Melissa. Seconded by Melissa. We’ll<01:30:16.120> do<01:30:16.280> a<01:30:16.400> roll<01:30:16.680> call. We’ll do a roll call. We’ll do a roll call. Jen. Jen. Jen. Is<01:30:20.520> Is<01:30:20.680> there<01:30:20.800> any<01:30:20.920> deliberation?<01:30:21.920> I<01:30:22.240> didn't Is Is there any deliberation? I didn’t Is Is there any deliberation? I didn’t know know know » I’m<01:30:22.600> sorry.<01:30:22.920> Yes,<01:30:23.240> ready<01:30:23.440> for<01:30:23.560> the » I’m sorry. Yes, ready for the » I’m sorry. Yes, ready for the discussion.

1:30:29 Yeah. I think Yeah. I think we’re<01:30:29.600> all<01:30:29.720> being<01:30:30.000> told<01:30:30.400> that<01:30:30.520> we<01:30:30.640> need<01:30:30.800> to we’re all being told that we need to we’re all being told that we need to live<01:30:31.160> in<01:30:31.280> reality.<01:30:31.840> We<01:30:31.960> need<01:30:32.200> to<01:30:32.800> have<01:30:33.120> the live in reality. We need to have the live in reality. We need to have the right<01:30:33.480> amount<01:30:33.840> of<01:30:33.920> concern. right amount of concern. right amount of concern. I<01:30:35.720> I<01:30:35.840> need<01:30:36.040> my<01:30:36.200> team<01:30:36.320> to<01:30:36.400> be<01:30:36.520> comfortable.

1:30:45 Okay. Okay. Now,<01:30:45.800> we'll<01:30:45.920> go<01:30:46.040> to<01:30:46.120> the<01:30:46.240> vote.<01:30:46.560> Jen.<01:30:47.400> In Now, we’ll go to the vote. Jen. In Now, we’ll go to the vote. Jen. In favor. favor. favor. Henry.<01:30:50.160> In<01:30:50.320> favor.<01:30:51.200> Melissa.<01:30:51.800> In<01:30:52.000> favor. Henry. In favor. Melissa. In favor. Henry. In favor. Melissa. In favor. Gabe.<01:30:53.400> In<01:30:53.560> favor. Gabe. In favor. Gabe. In favor. The<01:30:54.680> vote<01:30:55.160> is<01:30:55.320> in<01:30:55.360> favor.<01:30:55.720> The<01:30:55.840> motion<01:30:56.240> passes The vote is in favor. The motion passes The vote is in favor. The motion passes 5-0. 5-0. 5-0. Did<01:30:58.800> you<01:30:58.920> second<01:30:59.280> that,<01:30:59.440> Melissa?<01:30:59.880> Yes.

1:31:12 Anything else? No. Just give me my Anything else? No. Just give me my second<01:31:13.160> budget. second budget. second budget. Yeah,<01:31:14.520> we're<01:31:14.640> all<01:31:14.960> set<01:31:15.240> with<01:31:15.400> us.<01:31:15.880> I'd<01:31:16.000> like<01:31:16.080> to Yeah, we’re all set with us. I’d like to Yeah, we’re all set with us. I’d like to just<01:31:16.280> thank<01:31:16.400> you<01:31:16.480> guys<01:31:17.000> for<01:31:17.120> having<01:31:17.320> us. just thank you guys for having us. just thank you guys for having us. Be<01:31:18.280> sure<01:31:18.480> I<01:31:18.520> think<01:31:18.680> this<01:31:18.840> is<01:31:18.920> a<01:31:19.000> very Be sure I think this is a very Be sure I think this is a very productive<01:31:20.080> conversation. productive conversation. productive conversation. Um<01:31:21.920> and<01:31:22.040> I<01:31:22.120> can<01:31:22.280> tell<01:31:22.440> you<01:31:22.560> that<01:31:22.960> you<01:31:23.080> have<01:31:23.600> my Um and I can tell you that you have my Um and I can tell you that you have my personal<01:31:24.120> commitment<01:31:24.800> to<01:31:24.960> work<01:31:25.200> with<01:31:25.360> you personal commitment to work with you personal commitment to work with you guys<01:31:25.680> as<01:31:25.800> you<01:31:25.920> were<01:31:26.000> discussing<01:31:27.000> as<01:31:27.160> one<01:31:27.360> town. guys as you were discussing as one town. guys as you were discussing as one town. I<01:31:28.480> can't<01:31:28.640> speak<01:31:28.800> for<01:31:28.880> everyone<01:31:29.120> else,<01:31:29.280> but<01:31:29.400> you I can’t speak for everyone else, but you I can’t speak for everyone else, but you have<01:31:29.560> my<01:31:29.680> commitment<01:31:30.040> to<01:31:30.120> work<01:31:30.320> with<01:31:30.440> you have my commitment to work with you have my commitment to work with you guys.<01:31:30.840> I<01:31:30.920> do<01:31:31.360> I<01:31:31.560> I<01:31:31.960> I've<01:31:32.160> always<01:31:32.440> said<01:31:32.640> that<01:31:32.800> I guys. I do I I I’ve always said that I guys. I do I I I’ve always said that I can’t,<01:31:33.200> but<01:31:33.520> I<01:31:33.600> never<01:31:33.840> felt<01:31:34.080> comfortable can’t, but I never felt comfortable can’t, but I never felt comfortable coming<01:31:34.760> to<01:31:34.920> you<01:31:34.960> guys<01:31:35.160> with<01:31:35.280> this coming to you guys with this coming to you guys with this without<01:31:36.440> working<01:31:36.840> together<01:31:37.200> with<01:31:37.320> you<01:31:37.400> for<01:31:37.520> no without working together with you for no without working together with you for no reason.<01:31:38.520> Can't<01:31:38.680> expect<01:31:38.788> [clears throat]<01:31:39.080> me reason. Can’t expect [clears throat] me reason. Can’t expect [clears throat] me to<01:31:39.840> make<01:31:40.040> some<01:31:40.160> cuts<01:31:41.200> and<01:31:41.400> for<01:31:41.560> to<01:31:41.760> ask<01:31:42.000> to<01:31:42.120> be to make some cuts and for to ask to be to make some cuts and for to ask to be participate<01:31:43.160> in<01:31:43.240> the<01:31:43.280> downside<01:31:44.120> and<01:31:44.240> not<01:31:44.480> work participate in the downside and not work participate in the downside and not work together.<01:31:45.440> So,<01:31:45.520> you<01:31:45.640> do<01:31:45.760> have<01:31:45.880> my<01:31:46.040> commitment together. So, you do have my commitment together. So, you do have my commitment to<01:31:47.000> fight<01:31:47.240> for<01:31:47.360> us<01:31:47.480> as<01:31:47.600> hard<01:31:47.720> as<01:31:47.760> possible<01:31:48.080> to to fight for us as hard as possible to to fight for us as hard as possible to work<01:31:48.400> with<01:31:48.520> you<01:31:48.600> guys.<01:31:49.080> So,<01:31:49.200> I<01:31:49.240> do<01:31:49.360> appreciate work with you guys. So, I do appreciate work with you guys. So, I do appreciate that<01:31:50.320> and<01:31:50.760> you<01:31:50.840> know,<01:31:51.080> and<01:31:51.160> Mike,<01:31:51.400> I<01:31:51.480> look that and you know, and Mike, I look that and you know, and Mike, I look forward<01:31:51.920> to<01:31:52.600> seeing<01:31:52.840> what<01:31:52.960> you<01:31:53.040> find<01:31:53.280> out<01:31:53.360> with forward to seeing what you find out with forward to seeing what you find out with Alicia.<01:31:54.200> Hopefully<01:31:54.640> you're<01:31:54.760> right. Alicia. Hopefully you’re right. Alicia. Hopefully you’re right. Hopefully<01:31:55.320> you<01:31:55.400> find<01:31:55.560> about<01:31:55.760> the<01:31:55.800> cuts<01:31:56.000> on<01:31:56.080> our Hopefully you find about the cuts on our Hopefully you find about the cuts on our side,<01:31:56.400> too.<01:31:57.160> Let's<01:31:57.440> Let's<01:31:57.680> figure<01:31:57.880> that<01:31:58.080> out

1:31:58 side, too. Let’s Let’s figure that out side, too. Let’s Let’s figure that out and<01:31:58.320> whatever<01:31:58.680> it<01:31:58.800> ends<01:31:59.000> up<01:31:59.200> at,<01:31:59.600> we<01:31:59.760> can<01:31:59.920> all and whatever it ends up at, we can all and whatever it ends up at, we can all work<01:32:00.240> together<01:32:00.800> moving<01:32:01.080> forward.<01:32:01.880> And<01:32:02.320> you work together moving forward. And you work together moving forward. And you know,<01:32:02.640> maybe<01:32:03.360> we<01:32:03.880> we<01:32:03.960> can<01:32:04.080> have<01:32:04.360> more<01:32:04.560> meetings know, maybe we we can have more meetings know, maybe we we can have more meetings on<01:32:05.720> on<01:32:05.840> individual<01:32:06.320> groups<01:32:06.640> or<01:32:06.760> whatever<01:32:07.520> to on on individual groups or whatever to on on individual groups or whatever to work<01:32:07.840> together<01:32:08.160> for<01:32:08.320> an<01:32:08.400> overall<01:32:08.760> that<01:32:08.880> we<01:32:09.480> can work together for an overall that we can work together for an overall that we can use<01:32:10.360> schools<01:32:11.080> and<01:32:11.320> the<01:32:11.400> towns<01:32:12.080> to<01:32:12.200> where<01:32:12.400> we use schools and the towns to where we use schools and the towns to where we want<01:32:12.760> to<01:32:12.800> be. want to be. want to be. All<01:32:13.560> right,<01:32:13.920> the<01:32:13.960> model<01:32:14.320> that<01:32:14.440> we<01:32:14.560> need. All right, the model that we need. All right, the model that we need. Again<01:32:16.240> Al,<01:32:16.480> I<01:32:16.560> don't<01:32:17.000> I<01:32:17.160> I'd<01:32:17.320> ask<01:32:17.480> the Again Al, I don’t I I’d ask the Again Al, I don’t I I’d ask the committee<01:32:17.880> is<01:32:18.000> there<01:32:18.200> anybody<01:32:19.000> interested<01:32:19.560> in committee is there anybody interested in committee is there anybody interested in opening<01:32:20.680> up<01:32:20.800> for<01:32:20.880> public<01:32:21.160> comment? Before we do that can I can I just speak Before we do that can I can I just speak before<01:32:26.320> we<01:32:26.400> proceed?<01:32:26.720> Can<01:32:26.840> I<01:32:26.880> just<01:32:27.080> want<01:32:27.200> to before we proceed? Can I just want to before we proceed? Can I just want to say<01:32:27.440> I<01:32:27.520> mean<01:32:27.760> this<01:32:28.040> I'm<01:32:28.160> in<01:32:28.320> my<01:32:28.480> 10th<01:32:28.800> year<01:32:29.000> as<01:32:29.120> a say I mean this I’m in my 10th year as a say I mean this I’m in my 10th year as a superintendent<01:32:30.160> and<01:32:30.880> in<01:32:31.040> spirit<01:32:31.440> of<01:32:32.120> um<01:32:32.320> just superintendent and in spirit of um just superintendent and in spirit of um just sharing sharing sharing uh<01:32:34.360> I've<01:32:34.520> had<01:32:34.840> many<01:32:35.120> many<01:32:35.360> times<01:32:35.800> when uh I’ve had many many times when uh I’ve had many many times when in<01:32:37.800> collaboration<01:32:38.320> between<01:32:38.680> finance<01:32:39.200> board in collaboration between finance board in collaboration between finance board and<01:32:39.960> superintendent<01:32:40.480> school<01:32:40.760> committee<01:32:41.120> and and superintendent school committee and and superintendent school committee and select<01:32:41.600> board<01:32:42.120> has<01:32:42.240> not<01:32:42.480> been<01:32:42.640> this<01:32:43.120> you<01:32:43.240> know

1:32:43 select board has not been this you know select board has not been this you know um<01:32:43.680> open<01:32:43.960> and<01:32:44.080> honest<01:32:44.440> in<01:32:44.520> discussion.<01:32:45.040> So<01:32:45.640> I um open and honest in discussion. So I um open and honest in discussion. So I want<01:32:46.000> to<01:32:46.080> thank<01:32:46.400> you.<01:32:46.640> I<01:32:46.680> know<01:32:46.880> sometimes<01:32:47.320> I want to thank you. I know sometimes I want to thank you. I know sometimes I may<01:32:48.040> come<01:32:48.200> across<01:32:48.520> like<01:32:48.680> I'm<01:32:49.400> a<01:32:49.440> little<01:32:49.600> bit may come across like I’m a little bit may come across like I’m a little bit passionate<01:32:50.320> but<01:32:50.520> I<01:32:50.640> I<01:32:51.080> um<01:32:51.560> in<01:32:51.640> the<01:32:51.960> grand passionate but I I um in the grand passionate but I I um in the grand scheme<01:32:52.600> of<01:32:52.720> things scheme of things scheme of things the<01:32:53.840> ongoing<01:32:54.800> dialogue<01:32:55.280> is<01:32:55.400> what's<01:32:55.600> needed. the ongoing dialogue is what’s needed. the ongoing dialogue is what’s needed. Um<01:32:56.760> you<01:32:56.840> know<01:32:56.920> I<01:32:56.960> haven't<01:32:57.160> been<01:32:57.320> in<01:32:57.400> all<01:32:57.840> all Um you know I haven’t been in all all Um you know I haven’t been in all all head<01:32:58.280> out<01:32:58.480> long<01:32:58.920> in<01:32:59.280> talking<01:32:59.600> about<01:33:00.040> stuff head out long in talking about stuff head out long in talking about stuff here<01:33:00.640> and<01:33:00.760> I<01:33:00.840> think<01:33:01.480> the<01:33:01.600> only<01:33:01.960> way<01:33:02.080> we're here and I think the only way we’re here and I think the only way we’re going<01:33:02.320> to<01:33:02.400> get<01:33:02.480> past<01:33:02.760> this<01:33:03.080> is<01:33:03.320> to<01:33:03.560> have<01:33:03.720> these going to get past this is to have these going to get past this is to have these continued<01:33:04.280> conversations<01:33:05.280> and<01:33:05.400> have<01:33:05.600> these continued conversations and have these continued conversations and have these continued<01:33:06.360> collaborations<01:33:07.480> and<01:33:07.680> I<01:33:07.760> just continued collaborations and I just continued collaborations and I just wanted<01:33:08.160> to<01:33:08.400> thank<01:33:08.680> you<01:33:08.880> three<01:33:09.320> and<01:33:09.440> the<01:33:09.520> rest wanted to thank you three and the rest wanted to thank you three and the rest of<01:33:09.800> your<01:33:09.920> committees<01:33:10.520> um<01:33:10.680> for<01:33:11.000> the<01:33:11.120> work of your committees um for the work of your committees um for the work because<01:33:11.720> it<01:33:11.840> is<01:33:11.960> important<01:33:12.400> work<01:33:12.880> and<01:33:13.000> we<01:33:13.120> can because it is important work and we can because it is important work and we can agree<01:33:13.520> to<01:33:13.640> disagree<01:33:14.080> on<01:33:14.200> certain<01:33:14.480> things<01:33:14.760> and agree to disagree on certain things and agree to disagree on certain things and that’s<01:33:15.040> fine.<01:33:15.320> That's<01:33:15.520> how<01:33:15.640> we<01:33:15.760> move<01:33:16.000> forward. that’s fine. That’s how we move forward. that’s fine. That’s how we move forward. So<01:33:16.520> I<01:33:16.600> just<01:33:16.880> wanted<01:33:17.080> to<01:33:17.120> say<01:33:17.280> that<01:33:17.760> publicly So I just wanted to say that publicly So I just wanted to say that publicly thank<01:33:18.480> you.<01:33:19.080> Um<01:33:19.240> I<01:33:19.400> also<01:33:19.720> would<01:33:19.840> like<01:33:20.040> to<01:33:20.200> say thank you. Um I also would like to say thank you. Um I also would like to say um<01:33:21.160> you<01:33:21.240> know<01:33:21.400> as<01:33:21.560> well<01:33:21.800> that<01:33:22.200> this<01:33:22.400> is um you know as well that this is um you know as well that this is obviously<01:33:23.040> the<01:33:23.120> most<01:33:23.360> difficult<01:33:23.800> budget obviously the most difficult budget obviously the most difficult budget season<01:33:24.520> that<01:33:24.920> that<01:33:25.240> I've<01:33:25.440> certainly<01:33:25.840> seen<01:33:26.480> um season that that I’ve certainly seen um season that that I’ve certainly seen um we’ve<01:33:26.840> had<01:33:27.120> here<01:33:27.440> who<01:33:27.600> who<01:33:27.720> How<01:33:27.840> long<01:33:28.000> have<01:33:28.080> you we’ve had here who who How long have you we’ve had here who who How long have you been<01:33:28.280> on<01:33:28.360> FinCom?

1:33:33 He’s our He’s our longest tenured member He’s our He’s our longest tenured member and<01:33:33.960> I<01:33:34.000> would<01:33:34.120> say<01:33:34.480> by<01:33:34.680> far<01:33:35.000> the<01:33:35.120> biggest and I would say by far the biggest and I would say by far the biggest challenge<01:33:36.000> that<01:33:36.160> we<01:33:36.320> face<01:33:36.920> um<01:33:37.360> and<01:33:37.640> and<01:33:38.200> what challenge that we face um and and what challenge that we face um and and what I’ve<01:33:38.600> loved<01:33:38.880> to<01:33:39.000> see<01:33:39.120> in<01:33:39.240> this<01:33:39.360> process<01:33:39.920> is I’ve loved to see in this process is I’ve loved to see in this process is that<01:33:41.040> the<01:33:41.120> two<01:33:41.320> of<01:33:41.440> you<01:33:41.600> are<01:33:41.760> in<01:33:41.880> through<01:33:42.080> this. that the two of you are in through this. that the two of you are in through this. You<01:33:42.520> really<01:33:42.800> care.<01:33:43.200> You<01:33:43.320> care<01:33:43.520> about<01:33:44.000> our You really care. You care about our You really care. You care about our town.<01:33:44.560> You<01:33:44.640> care<01:33:44.800> about<01:33:45.040> our<01:33:45.120> school.<01:33:46.000> You town. You care about our school. You town. You care about our school. You care<01:33:46.360> about<01:33:46.800> the<01:33:46.920> students<01:33:47.600> and<01:33:48.040> it<01:33:48.240> is<01:33:48.560> It care about the students and it is It care about the students and it is It shows<01:33:49.000> in<01:33:49.120> everything<01:33:49.520> you<01:33:49.600> look<01:33:49.760> at.<01:33:49.960> So<01:33:50.200> I shows in everything you look at. So I shows in everything you look at. So I think<01:33:50.520> that<01:33:50.680> passion<01:33:51.120> is<01:33:51.240> a<01:33:51.280> wonderful<01:33:51.800> thing think that passion is a wonderful thing think that passion is a wonderful thing and<01:33:52.800> I<01:33:52.880> also<01:33:53.200> think<01:33:53.480> that<01:33:53.840> I<01:33:54.000> have<01:33:54.160> seen and I also think that I have seen and I also think that I have seen through<01:33:54.560> the<01:33:54.680> course<01:33:54.960> of<01:33:55.080> this<01:33:55.280> entire through the course of this entire through the course of this entire process<01:33:56.160> that<01:33:56.360> everyone<01:33:56.720> sitting<01:33:57.040> at<01:33:57.120> this process that everyone sitting at this process that everyone sitting at this table<01:33:57.880> and<01:33:58.000> I'll<01:33:58.240> also<01:33:58.480> include<01:33:59.080> Julia table and I’ll also include Julia table and I’ll also include Julia and<01:34:01.440> Lisa<01:34:01.760> Marie<01:34:02.200> and<01:34:02.440> I'm<01:34:02.480> going<01:34:02.600> to<01:34:02.680> throw and Lisa Marie and I’m going to throw and Lisa Marie and I’m going to throw Kristen<01:34:03.200> in<01:34:03.280> there<01:34:03.440> because<01:34:03.560> I<01:34:03.600> know<01:34:03.760> she's Kristen in there because I know she’s Kristen in there because I know she’s behind<01:34:04.200> a<01:34:04.240> lot<01:34:04.360> of<01:34:04.480> the<01:34:04.520> numbers<01:34:05.360> that<01:34:05.840> I<01:34:06.000> feel behind a lot of the numbers that I feel behind a lot of the numbers that I feel very<01:34:06.520> strongly<01:34:06.920> that very strongly that very strongly that I’m<01:34:08.320> very<01:34:08.560> thankful<01:34:09.080> and<01:34:09.240> grateful<01:34:09.640> that<01:34:09.920> this I’m very thankful and grateful that this I’m very thankful and grateful that this is<01:34:10.280> the<01:34:10.440> team<01:34:11.320> that<01:34:11.560> is<01:34:11.880> leading<01:34:12.200> us<01:34:12.360> through is the team that is leading us through is the team that is leading us through this<01:34:12.680> challenge<01:34:13.160> for<01:34:13.280> this<01:34:13.440> process. this challenge for this process. this challenge for this process. Thank<01:34:15.480> you. Thank you. Thank you. All<01:34:16.160> right.<01:34:16.440> Thank<01:34:16.680> you<01:34:16.760> guys. All right. Thank you guys. All right. Thank you guys. Thanks<01:34:17.800> a<01:34:17.840> lot.<01:34:18.160> Good<01:34:18.240> night.

1:34:23 Are there any public Are there any public comment? comment? comment? Yeah,<01:34:26.120> let's<01:34:26.360> discuss<01:34:26.680> that.<01:34:27.040> Do<01:34:27.120> we<01:34:27.200> have Yeah, let’s discuss that. Do we have Yeah, let’s discuss that. Do we have this?<01:34:27.760> I<01:34:27.840> don't<01:34:28.080> know<01:34:28.720> if<01:34:28.960> we<01:34:29.120> want<01:34:29.320> to<01:34:29.400> talk this? I don’t know if we want to talk this? I don’t know if we want to talk about<01:34:29.960> this<01:34:30.240> now<01:34:30.680> or<01:34:30.840> have<01:34:31.000> to<01:34:31.320> go<01:34:31.400> home<01:34:31.480> and about this now or have to go home and about this now or have to go home and talk<01:34:31.720> about<01:34:31.880> it,<01:34:31.960> but<01:34:32.320> you<01:34:32.480> know,<01:34:32.600> the<01:34:33.040> the talk about it, but you know, the the talk about it, but you know, the the select<01:34:33.520> board<01:34:33.720> has<01:34:33.880> already<01:34:34.240> shifted<01:34:34.680> to select board has already shifted to select board has already shifted to talking<01:34:35.120> about<01:34:35.360> an<01:34:35.480> override<01:34:36.120> and<01:34:36.280> I<01:34:36.320> think<01:34:36.560> if talking about an override and I think if talking about an override and I think if we’re<01:34:36.800> going<01:34:36.920> to<01:34:37.000> make<01:34:37.200> some<01:34:37.360> cuts,<01:34:38.520> we're we’re going to make some cuts, we’re we’re going to make some cuts, we’re going<01:34:38.840> to<01:34:38.960> want<01:34:39.320> to going to want to going to want to figure<01:34:41.440> out<01:34:41.880> how<01:34:42.120> we're<01:34:42.720> how<01:34:42.880> we're<01:34:43.000> going<01:34:43.320> to figure out how we’re how we’re going to figure out how we’re how we’re going to try<01:34:44.040> to<01:34:44.920> get<01:34:45.200> this<01:34:45.400> one<01:34:45.680> back. try to get this one back. try to get this one back. The<01:34:46.920> end. The end. The end. You<01:34:48.120> know, You know, You know, in<01:34:49.440> an<01:34:49.480> ideal<01:34:49.920> world,<01:34:50.400> yeah,<01:34:50.600> we're<01:34:50.720> going<01:34:50.840> to in an ideal world, yeah, we’re going to in an ideal world, yeah, we’re going to we<01:34:51.720> do<01:34:52.080> then<01:34:52.280> you<01:34:52.400> know,<01:34:52.520> the<01:34:52.920> the<01:34:53.000> select we do then you know, the the select we do then you know, the the select board<01:34:53.480> has<01:34:53.600> offered<01:34:53.920> a<01:34:53.960> tier<01:34:54.320> one. board has offered a tier one. board has offered a tier one. So,<01:34:55.800> our<01:34:56.080> tier<01:34:56.480> one<01:34:57.120> would<01:34:57.320> be<01:34:58.240> fully<01:34:58.480> funded So, our tier one would be fully funded So, our tier one would be fully funded schools,<01:34:59.960> right?<01:35:00.200> Like<01:35:00.400> the<01:35:00.480> way<01:35:00.720> that schools, right? Like the way that schools, right? Like the way that they’re they’re they’re I<01:35:02.320> think<01:35:02.600> Dana<01:35:02.800> described<01:35:03.200> it<01:35:03.280> as<01:35:03.480> invest<01:35:04.520> in I think Dana described it as invest in I think Dana described it as invest in in<01:35:04.920> marble.<01:35:05.680> You<01:35:05.760> invest<01:35:06.240> in<01:35:06.480> we're<01:35:06.600> going<01:35:06.720> to in marble. You invest in we’re going to in marble. You invest in we’re going to invest<01:35:07.160> in<01:35:07.240> the<01:35:07.320> school<01:35:07.560> system.

1:35:09 invest in the school system. invest in the school system. Whereas<01:35:10.000> tier<01:35:10.280> three<01:35:10.560> would<01:35:10.760> just<01:35:11.000> be Whereas tier three would just be Whereas tier three would just be pulling<01:35:12.640> back<01:35:12.880> with<01:35:13.000> some pulling back with some pulling back with some cuts<01:35:15.160> and<01:35:15.320> then<01:35:15.640> and<01:35:15.760> then<01:35:16.200> you<01:35:16.280> know,<01:35:16.640> the cuts and then and then you know, the cuts and then and then you know, the administration<01:35:17.200> taking<01:35:17.440> cuts. administration taking cuts. administration taking cuts. Um Um Um So,<01:35:21.440> I<01:35:21.760> I<01:35:21.880> don't<01:35:22.240> want<01:35:22.400> to<01:35:22.480> lose<01:35:22.720> any<01:35:22.920> time<01:35:23.280> on So, I I don’t want to lose any time on So, I I don’t want to lose any time on that. that. that. Yeah.<01:35:24.720> I<01:35:24.880> do<01:35:25.120> want<01:35:25.320> to<01:35:25.400> get<01:35:25.560> a<01:35:25.640> sense<01:35:26.040> of<01:35:26.160> what's Yeah. I do want to get a sense of what’s Yeah. I do want to get a sense of what’s realistic<01:35:28.040> to<01:35:28.240> ask<01:35:28.720> from<01:35:29.480> John. realistic to ask from John. realistic to ask from John. That’s<01:35:31.120> all<01:35:31.200> right.<01:35:31.440> Like<01:35:31.760> Jen<01:35:32.040> said, That’s all right. Like Jen said, That’s all right. Like Jen said, we<01:35:33.760> I<01:35:34.320> we<01:35:34.480> can't<01:35:35.040> ask<01:35:35.360> them<01:35:35.560> to<01:35:35.760> do<01:35:36.040> a<01:35:36.080> fully we I we can’t ask them to do a fully we I we can’t ask them to do a fully funded<01:35:36.840> budget<01:35:37.280> for<01:35:37.600> this<01:35:37.720> year<01:35:37.960> and<01:35:38.560> the<01:35:38.680> town funded budget for this year and the town funded budget for this year and the town can’t<01:35:39.120> vote<01:35:39.400> on<01:35:39.480> it. can’t vote on it. can’t vote on it. It’s<01:35:40.240> not<01:35:40.480> realistic,<01:35:41.120> but It’s not realistic, but It’s not realistic, but I<01:35:41.920> think<01:35:42.160> we<01:35:42.320> can make strides in that direction and I make strides in that direction and I don’t<01:35:46.800> think<01:35:46.920> it

1:35:52 I’m wondering if it makes sense to I’m wondering if it makes sense to and<01:35:52.400> if<01:35:52.520> they're<01:35:52.600> going<01:35:52.800> to<01:35:52.880> go<01:35:53.040> off<01:35:53.320> and<01:35:53.480> work and if they’re going to go off and work and if they’re going to go off and work on<01:35:54.360> what<01:35:54.480> they're<01:35:54.600> bringing<01:35:54.920> back<01:35:55.160> to<01:35:55.320> us<01:35:55.520> next on what they’re bringing back to us next on what they’re bringing back to us next week<01:35:57.040> so<01:35:57.240> it<01:35:57.360> can<01:35:57.560> be<01:35:57.720> an<01:35:57.840> agenda<01:35:58.280> item<01:35:58.560> perhaps week so it can be an agenda item perhaps week so it can be an agenda item perhaps for<01:35:59.080> next<01:35:59.400> week<01:35:59.680> but<01:35:59.800> we<01:35:59.920> can<01:36:00.040> maybe<01:36:00.320> I<01:36:00.440> won't for next week but we can maybe I won’t for next week but we can maybe I won’t be<01:36:00.800> here<01:36:01.160> next<01:36:01.400> week<01:36:01.640> and<01:36:01.760> I<01:36:01.800> have<01:36:01.920> a<01:36:02.160> family be here next week and I have a family be here next week and I have a family commitment<01:36:02.920> but<01:36:03.760> it's<01:36:03.920> for<01:36:04.040> the<01:36:04.120> committee<01:36:04.480> to commitment but it’s for the committee to commitment but it’s for the committee to have<01:36:04.800> a<01:36:04.840> discussion<01:36:05.440> about have a discussion about have a discussion about how<01:36:07.240> we<01:36:07.400> would<01:36:07.520> have<01:36:07.600> moved<01:36:07.840> forward<01:36:08.320> with how we would have moved forward with how we would have moved forward with you<01:36:10.240> know,<01:36:10.480> bringing<01:36:10.760> together you know, bringing together you know, bringing together having<01:36:13.200> them<01:36:13.640> together<01:36:14.320> what<01:36:14.440> they<01:36:14.600> would having them together what they would having them together what they would recommend<01:36:16.040> that<01:36:16.200> we<01:36:16.400> ask<01:36:16.720> for.<01:36:17.120> I<01:36:17.280> think<01:36:17.720> what recommend that we ask for. I think what recommend that we ask for. I think what we<01:36:18.800> might<01:36:19.131> [clears throat]<01:36:19.160> want<01:36:19.360> to<01:36:19.440> bring we might [clears throat] want to bring we might [clears throat] want to bring sort<01:36:20.440> of<01:36:20.560> our<01:36:20.800> home<01:36:21.040> rule sort of our home rule sort of our home rule is is is sort<01:36:23.360> of<01:36:23.560> our<01:36:23.800> version<01:36:24.320> of<01:36:24.680> of<01:36:24.880> what<01:36:25.120> Aaron sort of our version of of what Aaron sort of our version of of what Aaron presented<01:36:26.360> that<01:36:26.600> we<01:36:26.720> would<01:36:26.840> be<01:36:26.920> three-tiered presented that we would be three-tiered presented that we would be three-tiered that<01:36:27.760> had that had that had you<01:36:28.920> know,<01:36:29.040> the<01:36:29.200> tier you know, the tier you know, the tier the the the duration duration duration in<01:36:33.200> the<01:36:33.320> global<01:36:33.760> budget. in the global budget. in the global budget. So<01:36:35.360> that<01:36:35.640> we<01:36:36.120> we<01:36:36.240> sort<01:36:36.480> of<01:36:36.560> have<01:36:36.920> something<01:36:37.360> to

1:36:37 So that we we sort of have something to So that we we sort of have something to workshop<01:36:38.040> amongst<01:36:38.440> ourselves<01:36:38.920> and<01:36:39.040> then<01:36:39.480> it's workshop amongst ourselves and then it’s workshop amongst ourselves and then it’s the<01:36:39.640> simple<01:36:40.160> Simple<01:36:40.480> answer<01:36:40.920> to<01:36:41.040> the<01:36:41.120> question the simple Simple answer to the question the simple Simple answer to the question is is is um um um a<01:36:44.280> level<01:36:44.640> service<01:36:45.040> budget<01:36:45.360> that<01:36:45.440> we<01:36:45.560> started a level service budget that we started a level service budget that we started this<01:36:46.240> whole<01:36:46.400> conversation<01:36:47.000> with<01:36:47.120> back<01:36:47.320> in<01:36:47.360> the this whole conversation with back in the this whole conversation with back in the last<01:36:47.640> school<01:36:47.760> year<01:36:48.320> would<01:36:48.480> be<01:36:48.680> what<01:36:49.440> I<01:36:49.640> would last school year would be what I would last school year would be what I would say<01:36:50.280> go<01:36:50.400> forward<01:36:50.760> with. say go forward with. say go forward with. Is<01:36:51.600> that<01:36:51.840> what<01:36:51.960> it<01:36:52.040> is<01:36:52.160> where<01:36:52.320> we<01:36:52.480> would<01:36:52.640> have Is that what it is where we would have Is that what it is where we would have been<01:36:53.040> if<01:36:53.240> the been if the been if the if<01:36:54.040> we<01:36:54.200> were<01:36:54.320> to<01:36:54.400> use<01:36:54.520> the<01:36:54.600> sponge<01:36:54.960> that<01:36:55.160> was if we were to use the sponge that was if we were to use the sponge that was there? there? there? Yeah.<01:36:56.480> I<01:36:56.560> mean<01:36:56.720> that's<01:36:56.960> pretty<01:36:57.160> simple<01:36:57.480> in<01:36:57.640> my Yeah. I mean that’s pretty simple in my Yeah. I mean that’s pretty simple in my in<01:36:58.040> my<01:36:58.160> opinion<01:36:58.440> it's<01:36:58.560> pretty<01:36:58.720> simple<01:36:59.000> that in my opinion it’s pretty simple that in my opinion it’s pretty simple that would<01:36:59.280> mean<01:36:59.880> that<01:37:00.040> we<01:37:00.240> would<01:37:00.880> mean<01:37:01.600> mean<01:37:01.840> still would mean that we would mean mean still would mean that we would mean mean still only<01:37:02.400> mean<01:37:02.680> still<01:37:02.960> only<01:37:03.200> maintain<01:37:03.800> what<01:37:03.920> we only mean still only maintain what we only mean still only maintain what we currently<01:37:04.360> have<01:37:04.640> without<01:37:05.200> fashion<01:37:05.880> putting currently have without fashion putting currently have without fashion putting extra<01:37:06.520> into<01:37:07.400> our<01:37:07.600> programming. extra into our programming. extra into our programming. » [clears throat] » [clears throat] » [clears throat] » Um<01:37:09.120> right<01:37:09.320> now<01:37:09.560> we're<01:37:09.760> at<01:37:10.400> level<01:37:10.680> fund<01:37:10.920> which » Um right now we’re at level fund which » Um right now we’re at level fund which means<01:37:11.240> we've<01:37:11.480> already<01:37:11.720> cut<01:37:12.000> programming, means we’ve already cut programming, means we’ve already cut programming, supplies,<01:37:14.360> staff,<01:37:15.280> da<01:37:15.400> da<01:37:15.520> da,<01:37:16.040> reduced supplies, staff, da da da, reduced supplies, staff, da da da, reduced budget.<01:37:16.760> We<01:37:16.880> have<01:37:17.080> to<01:37:17.160> do<01:37:17.280> more<01:37:17.560> of<01:37:17.640> that.<01:37:18.320> So budget. We have to do more of that. So budget. We have to do more of that. So if<01:37:18.720> the<01:37:18.840> question<01:37:19.320> is<01:37:19.880> what<01:37:20.000> does<01:37:20.160> John<01:37:20.520> think if the question is what does John think if the question is what does John think that<01:37:20.960> the<01:37:21.080> school<01:37:21.400> needs<01:37:22.640> if<01:37:22.800> that<01:37:23.120> needs<01:37:23.280> to

1:37:23 that the school needs if that needs to that the school needs if that needs to be<01:37:23.440> part<01:37:23.680> of<01:37:23.760> the<01:37:23.840> override,<01:37:24.640> John<01:37:24.960> thinks<01:37:25.240> as be part of the override, John thinks as be part of the override, John thinks as the<01:37:25.520> superintendent<01:37:26.120> school<01:37:26.800> that<01:37:27.000> our<01:37:27.120> level the superintendent school that our level the superintendent school that our level services<01:37:27.920> budget<01:37:28.240> that<01:37:28.360> we<01:37:28.480> would<01:37:28.640> have<01:37:28.760> gone services budget that we would have gone services budget that we would have gone we<01:37:29.840> would<01:37:29.960> have<01:37:30.080> gone<01:37:30.320> for<01:37:30.440> this<01:37:30.680> year<01:37:30.920> had<01:37:31.320> had we would have gone for this year had had we would have gone for this year had had it<01:37:31.560> not<01:37:31.760> been<01:37:31.920> for<01:37:32.040> this<01:37:32.200> $7<01:37:32.560> million<01:37:32.760> deficit it not been for this $7 million deficit it not been for this $7 million deficit is<01:37:33.800> what<01:37:34.120> what<01:37:34.440> I<01:37:34.600> feel<01:37:34.840> we<01:37:35.000> need<01:37:35.760> just<01:37:36.200> to is what what I feel we need just to is what what I feel we need just to maintain.<01:37:37.440> That's<01:37:37.640> not<01:37:38.400> that's<01:37:38.840> that's<01:37:39.040> not maintain. That’s not that’s that’s not maintain. That’s not that’s that’s not even<01:37:39.280> pie<01:37:39.480> in<01:37:39.560> the<01:37:39.640> sky<01:37:39.880> that's<01:37:40.160> just<01:37:40.480> to even pie in the sky that’s just to even pie in the sky that’s just to maintain<01:37:41.200> and<01:37:41.320> I<01:37:41.360> think<01:37:42.280> anything<01:37:42.640> further maintain and I think anything further maintain and I think anything further than<01:37:43.240> that<01:37:44.000> is<01:37:44.240> just<01:37:44.520> as<01:37:44.720> pie<01:37:44.880> in<01:37:44.960> the<01:37:45.040> sky<01:37:45.720> and than that is just as pie in the sky and than that is just as pie in the sky and quite<01:37:46.360> frankly<01:37:47.040> back<01:37:47.280> to<01:37:47.640> the<01:37:47.760> initial quite frankly back to the initial quite frankly back to the initial conversation conversation conversation if<01:37:49.720> we're<01:37:50.200> on<01:37:50.360> how<01:37:50.480> to<01:37:50.600> cut<01:37:50.960> 1.<01:37:51.800> x<01:37:52.000> amount<01:37:52.240> of if we’re on how to cut 1. x amount of if we’re on how to cut 1. x amount of million<01:37:52.880> dollars, million dollars, million dollars, that<01:37:54.280> can't<01:37:54.560> also<01:37:54.880> be<01:37:55.240> coming<01:37:55.520> back<01:37:55.800> to<01:37:55.880> the that can’t also be coming back to the that can’t also be coming back to the school<01:37:56.240> committee<01:37:56.480> for<01:37:56.680> separate<01:37:57.000> budget<01:37:57.280> on school committee for separate budget on school committee for separate budget on top.<01:37:57.640> I<01:37:57.720> just<01:37:57.960> want<01:37:58.080> to<01:37:58.160> be<01:37:58.240> clear.<01:37:58.600> I<01:37:58.680> mean,<01:37:59.000> we top. I just want to be clear. I mean, we top. I just want to be clear. I mean, we can<01:37:59.480> we<01:37:59.600> can<01:37:59.720> probably<01:37:59.960> do<01:38:00.160> the<01:38:00.280> original can we can probably do the original can we can probably do the original number, number, number, but<01:38:02.360> I<01:38:02.400> I<01:38:02.720> there's<01:38:02.880> no<01:38:03.040> possible<01:38:03.440> way<01:38:03.520> we<01:38:03.640> can but I I there’s no possible way we can but I I there’s no possible way we can um<01:38:04.120> do<01:38:04.720> a<01:38:04.840> separate<01:38:05.200> budget<01:38:05.760> on<01:38:05.920> top.<01:38:06.760> I<01:38:07.000> don't um do a separate budget on top. I don’t um do a separate budget on top. I don’t know<01:38:07.240> if<01:38:07.320> that's<01:38:07.560> what<01:38:07.680> was<01:38:07.800> being<01:38:08.000> asked<01:38:08.200> or

1:38:08 know if that’s what was being asked or know if that’s what was being asked or it’s<01:38:08.720> out<01:38:08.880> of<01:38:08.960> the<01:38:09.040> question.<01:38:09.280> Yeah,<01:38:09.440> that it’s out of the question. Yeah, that it’s out of the question. Yeah, that makes<01:38:09.760> sense.<01:38:10.480> And<01:38:10.560> I<01:38:10.640> agree<01:38:10.960> with<01:38:11.120> you.<01:38:11.280> I makes sense. And I agree with you. I makes sense. And I agree with you. I think<01:38:12.160> my think my think my my<01:38:13.640> question<01:38:14.120> would<01:38:14.320> be my question would be my question would be since<01:38:16.000> the<01:38:16.120> select<01:38:16.640> board<01:38:17.080> is since the select board is since the select board is doing<01:38:18.600> a<01:38:18.680> more<01:38:18.920> complicated<01:38:19.640> tiered<01:38:19.920> approach doing a more complicated tiered approach doing a more complicated tiered approach to<01:38:20.600> a<01:38:21.080> to<01:38:21.600> a to a to a to a to a an<01:38:22.720> override,<01:38:23.440> are<01:38:23.600> we<01:38:23.720> going<01:38:23.840> to<01:38:23.920> be<01:38:24.200> on an override, are we going to be on an override, are we going to be on there?<01:38:25.320> And<01:38:25.440> are<01:38:25.548> [clears throat]<01:38:25.560> we<01:38:25.680> just there? And are [clears throat] we just there? And are [clears throat] we just going<01:38:26.000> to<01:38:26.080> be<01:38:26.200> on<01:38:26.360> there<01:38:26.640> for<01:38:26.920> their<01:38:27.360> what<01:38:27.720> what going to be on there for their what what going to be on there for their what what they’re<01:38:28.040> calling<01:38:28.400> tier<01:38:28.680> three they’re calling tier three they’re calling tier three to<01:38:30.240> to<01:38:30.400> restore<01:38:30.880> things?<01:38:31.760> Or<01:38:32.040> are<01:38:32.160> we<01:38:32.320> going<01:38:32.480> to to to restore things? Or are we going to to to restore things? Or are we going to contribute<01:38:33.160> to<01:38:33.520> the<01:38:33.720> other<01:38:34.000> teams?<01:38:34.960> You<01:38:35.080> maybe contribute to the other teams? You maybe contribute to the other teams? You maybe I<01:38:35.440> I<01:38:35.640> I<01:38:35.760> think I I I think I I I think probably<01:38:38.080> the<01:38:38.200> discussion<01:38:38.800> we'll<01:38:38.960> have<01:38:39.320> next probably the discussion we’ll have next probably the discussion we’ll have next week<01:38:39.880> if<01:38:40.000> we<01:38:40.160> add<01:38:40.360> it<01:38:40.480> as<01:38:40.640> an<01:38:40.760> agenda<01:38:41.200> item,<01:38:41.480> but week if we add it as an agenda item, but week if we add it as an agenda item, but those<01:38:41.960> are<01:38:42.600> those<01:38:42.760> are<01:38:42.840> my<01:38:43.360> questions<01:38:43.800> and those are those are my questions and those are those are my questions and concerns<01:38:44.480> cuz<01:38:44.680> I<01:38:44.760> think<01:38:45.080> Some<01:38:45.560> some<01:38:45.800> of<01:38:45.880> that concerns cuz I think Some some of that concerns cuz I think Some some of that is<01:38:46.160> up<01:38:46.320> to<01:38:46.480> us.<01:38:46.720> I<01:38:46.760> mean,<01:38:46.920> we<01:38:47.040> have<01:38:47.200> a<01:38:47.640> warrant is up to us. I mean, we have a warrant is up to us. I mean, we have a warrant article<01:38:48.640> on<01:38:49.280> the<01:38:49.360> town<01:38:49.600> warrant<01:38:50.560> to<01:38:51.400> um article on the town warrant to um article on the town warrant to um to<01:38:52.320> request<01:38:53.040> additional<01:38:53.440> revenue<01:38:54.240> through

1:38:54 to request additional revenue through to request additional revenue through whatever<01:38:54.920> you<01:38:55.000> know,<01:38:55.200> through<01:38:55.960> the<01:38:56.040> source<01:38:56.320> of whatever you know, through the source of whatever you know, through the source of to<01:38:57.360> power<01:38:57.560> position<01:38:57.960> 2<01:38:58.080> and<01:38:58.160> 1/2<01:38:58.360> override<01:38:59.000> for to power position 2 and 1/2 override for to power position 2 and 1/2 override for the<01:38:59.240> purposes<01:38:59.680> of<01:38:59.760> the<01:38:59.840> school<01:39:00.040> district the purposes of the school district the purposes of the school district budget. budget. budget. Yeah.<01:39:02.040> So<01:39:02.520> it's<01:39:03.000> up<01:39:03.080> to<01:39:03.640> us,<01:39:04.360> I<01:39:04.440> think.<01:39:05.320> Um Yeah. So it’s up to us, I think. Um Yeah. So it’s up to us, I think. Um Yeah,<01:39:05.800> I<01:39:05.880> think<01:39:06.080> it's<01:39:06.240> just<01:39:06.480> a<01:39:06.520> question<01:39:07.040> Oh, Yeah, I think it’s just a question Oh, Yeah, I think it’s just a question Oh, sorry,<01:39:07.440> Jen.<01:39:07.680> Go<01:39:07.800> ahead.<01:39:08.440> I<01:39:08.520> just<01:39:08.760> I sorry, Jen. Go ahead. I just I sorry, Jen. Go ahead. I just I [clears throat]<01:39:08.840> also<01:39:09.120> didn't<01:39:09.480> Maybe<01:39:09.720> I [clears throat] also didn’t Maybe I [clears throat] also didn’t Maybe I I<01:39:10.520> was<01:39:10.680> listening<01:39:10.960> in<01:39:11.080> last<01:39:11.280> night.<01:39:11.440> Maybe<01:39:11.640> I I was listening in last night. Maybe I I was listening in last night. Maybe I missed<01:39:11.880> it,<01:39:11.960> but<01:39:12.080> I<01:39:12.160> didn't<01:39:13.000> I<01:39:13.320> I<01:39:13.480> heard missed it, but I didn’t I I heard missed it, but I didn’t I I heard several<01:39:14.200> different<01:39:15.000> um several different um several different um I<01:39:16.320> guess<01:39:16.680> options<01:39:17.080> of<01:39:17.160> the<01:39:17.240> word<01:39:17.480> or I guess options of the word or I guess options of the word or scenarios,<01:39:18.240> but<01:39:18.400> I<01:39:18.480> did<01:39:18.800> I<01:39:18.920> wasn't<01:39:19.280> sure<01:39:19.480> that scenarios, but I did I wasn’t sure that scenarios, but I did I wasn’t sure that necessarily<01:39:20.680> there<01:39:20.760> was<01:39:20.880> a<01:39:20.920> conclusion<01:39:21.440> last necessarily there was a conclusion last necessarily there was a conclusion last night<01:39:21.880> through<01:39:22.000> the<01:39:22.080> select<01:39:22.440> board.<01:39:22.560> I<01:39:22.600> don't night through the select board. I don’t night through the select board. I don’t know<01:39:22.760> if<01:39:22.840> Jen<01:39:23.040> is<01:39:23.120> still<01:39:23.240> there<01:39:23.400> or<01:39:23.480> not<01:39:24.120> um<01:39:24.400> as know if Jen is still there or not um as know if Jen is still there or not um as to<01:39:25.080> specifically<01:39:25.800> what<01:39:26.280> they're<01:39:26.480> looking<01:39:26.760> at to specifically what they’re looking at to specifically what they’re looking at or<01:39:26.960> that<01:39:27.120> they're<01:39:27.320> just<01:39:27.960> also<01:39:28.320> starting<01:39:28.680> this or that they’re just also starting this or that they’re just also starting this process. process. process. They’re<01:39:30.800> starting<01:39:31.360> the<01:39:31.480> My<01:39:31.840> understanding They’re starting the My understanding They’re starting the My understanding was<01:39:32.360> that<01:39:32.560> they're<01:39:32.720> starting<01:39:33.080> the<01:39:33.200> process. was that they’re starting the process. was that they’re starting the process. They<01:39:33.960> asked<01:39:34.280> Thatcher<01:39:34.800> to<01:39:35.240> present They asked Thatcher to present They asked Thatcher to present scenarios.<01:39:36.600> And scenarios. And scenarios. And and<01:39:37.680> honestly,<01:39:38.520> I<01:39:38.680> just<01:39:38.920> don't<01:39:39.080> want<01:39:39.240> to<01:39:39.280> fall and honestly, I just don’t want to fall and honestly, I just don’t want to fall behind.<01:39:40.240> You<01:39:40.320> know,<01:39:40.440> we've<01:39:40.640> been<01:39:40.800> ahead<01:39:41.080> this

1:39:41 behind. You know, we’ve been ahead this behind. You know, we’ve been ahead this whole<01:39:41.480> time,<01:39:42.000> right?<01:39:42.400> And<01:39:43.320> I<01:39:43.400> don't<01:39:43.680> want<01:39:43.920> to whole time, right? And I don’t want to whole time, right? And I don’t want to be<01:39:44.880> caught<01:39:45.160> flat-footed<01:39:45.920> when<01:39:46.080> it's<01:39:46.240> time<01:39:46.600> to be caught flat-footed when it’s time to be caught flat-footed when it’s time to ask<01:39:47.200> the<01:39:47.320> town<01:39:47.600> for<01:39:47.760> more<01:39:48.720> if<01:39:48.880> we<01:39:49.000> have<01:39:49.160> an ask the town for more if we have an ask the town for more if we have an opportunity.<01:39:49.388> [clears throat]

1:39:54 So, let’s add it if if everyone agrees, So, let’s add it if if everyone agrees, let’s<01:39:54.920> add<01:39:55.040> it.<01:39:55.360> It<01:39:55.440> makes<01:39:55.680> sense,<01:39:55.960> especially let’s add it. It makes sense, especially let’s add it. It makes sense, especially next<01:39:56.840> week<01:39:57.120> and next week and next week and in<01:39:59.400> house.<01:40:00.040> I<01:40:00.120> know<01:40:00.240> it's<01:40:00.400> locked<01:40:00.640> for<01:40:00.800> house in house. I know it’s locked for house in house. I know it’s locked for house meeting<01:40:01.480> next<01:40:01.720> week<01:40:01.960> and<01:40:02.080> it<01:40:02.160> will<01:40:02.240> be<01:40:02.360> out meeting next week and it will be out meeting next week and it will be out there<01:40:02.720> where<01:40:02.880> it<01:40:03.040> falls<01:40:03.360> relative<01:40:03.760> to<01:40:03.920> ours. there where it falls relative to ours. there where it falls relative to ours. So,<01:40:04.360> depending<01:40:04.840> on<01:40:04.920> what<01:40:05.000> happens<01:40:05.320> in<01:40:05.400> that So, depending on what happens in that So, depending on what happens in that community.<01:40:06.400> Yes,<01:40:06.800> Thatcher<01:40:07.240> is<01:40:07.400> coming<01:40:07.680> back community. Yes, Thatcher is coming back community. Yes, Thatcher is coming back on<01:40:08.080> Thursday on Thursday on Thursday » Thursday<01:40:08.960> at<01:40:09.040> 1:00. » Thursday at 1:00. » Thursday at 1:00. short<01:40:11.240> window<01:40:11.440> of<01:40:11.520> time<01:40:11.920> to<01:40:12.040> digest. short window of time to digest. short window of time to digest. » [clears throat] » [clears throat] » [clears throat] » Yes,<01:40:14.080> but<01:40:14.760> yeah. » Yes, but yeah. » Yes, but yeah. But<01:40:15.920> it<01:40:16.000> sounds<01:40:16.280> to<01:40:16.360> me<01:40:16.440> like<01:40:16.680> we're But it sounds to me like we’re But it sounds to me like we’re that that that folks<01:40:20.040> are<01:40:20.280> including<01:40:20.800> Superintendent<01:40:21.880> are folks are including Superintendent are folks are including Superintendent are saying<01:40:22.360> that<01:40:22.520> this<01:40:22.760> idea<01:40:23.200> of<01:40:23.360> coming<01:40:23.640> forward saying that this idea of coming forward saying that this idea of coming forward with<01:40:24.080> a<01:40:24.160> fully<01:40:24.520> funded<01:40:24.840> budget with a fully funded budget with a fully funded budget is<01:40:26.400> at<01:40:26.520> this<01:40:26.680> point<01:40:26.880> not<01:40:27.080> on<01:40:27.160> the<01:40:27.240> table. is at this point not on the table. is at this point not on the table. Just<01:40:29.560> want<01:40:29.680> to<01:40:29.760> make<01:40:29.880> that<01:40:30.080> clear. Just want to make that clear. Just want to make that clear. Or<01:40:31.520> I<01:40:31.600> want<01:40:31.800> some<01:40:31.920> clarity<01:40:32.400> on<01:40:32.520> that. Or I want some clarity on that. Or I want some clarity on that. I<01:40:34.560> mean,<01:40:34.760> I<01:40:34.800> think<01:40:35.120> again,<01:40:35.480> we<01:40:35.600> have<01:40:35.840> to<01:40:35.960> live I mean, I think again, we have to live I mean, I think again, we have to live in<01:40:36.280> the<01:40:36.360> real<01:40:36.600> world.<01:40:37.280> I<01:40:37.440> would<01:40:37.800> like<01:40:38.160> to<01:40:38.320> find in the real world. I would like to find in the real world. I would like to find some<01:40:39.680> ways

1:40:40 some ways some ways to to to make<01:40:42.640> progress make progress make progress toward toward toward you<01:40:46.280> know,<01:40:46.440> like<01:40:46.680> John<01:40:46.960> says,<01:40:47.160> we're<01:40:47.400> we're you know, like John says, we’re we’re you know, like John says, we’re we’re just<01:40:48.120> in<01:40:48.280> a<01:40:48.320> holding<01:40:48.720> pattern<01:40:49.040> with<01:40:49.240> the<01:40:49.840> with just in a holding pattern with the with just in a holding pattern with the with the<01:40:50.120> budgets<01:40:50.520> that<01:40:50.680> we've<01:40:50.840> been<01:40:51.000> approving. the budgets that we’ve been approving. the budgets that we’ve been approving. If<01:40:52.720> if<01:40:53.200> the<01:40:53.360> select<01:40:53.800> board<01:40:54.040> is<01:40:54.160> going<01:40:54.520> to<01:40:54.640> take If if the select board is going to take If if the select board is going to take a<01:40:54.880> tiered<01:40:55.200> approach,<01:40:55.800> I<01:40:55.920> want a tiered approach, I want a tiered approach, I want at<01:40:57.280> least<01:40:57.840> some<01:40:58.320> tiers,<01:40:59.080> you<01:40:59.200> know,<01:40:59.520> is<01:40:59.720> it<01:41:00.200> is at least some tiers, you know, is it is at least some tiers, you know, is it is it<01:41:00.520> kindergarten<01:41:01.200> funding it kindergarten funding it kindergarten funding included<01:41:03.240> in<01:41:03.400> there?<01:41:04.160> And<01:41:04.640> I<01:41:04.720> think<01:41:04.920> that's included in there? And I think that’s included in there? And I think that’s all<01:41:05.240> we<01:41:05.320> need<01:41:05.480> to<01:41:05.560> discuss<01:41:06.000> next<01:41:06.280> week. all we need to discuss next week. all we need to discuss next week. But<01:41:07.200> I<01:41:07.280> don't<01:41:07.480> think<01:41:07.760> I<01:41:08.120> Jen,<01:41:08.400> I<01:41:08.480> agree<01:41:08.760> with But I don’t think I Jen, I agree with But I don’t think I Jen, I agree with you.<01:41:09.000> I<01:41:09.040> don't<01:41:09.200> think<01:41:09.320> we<01:41:09.400> can<01:41:09.560> say,<01:41:10.000> "Oh, you. I don’t think we can say, “Oh, you. I don’t think we can say, “Oh, please<01:41:10.800> prepare<01:41:11.320> a<01:41:11.600> level-funded<01:41:12.160> budget please prepare a level-funded budget please prepare a level-funded budget by<01:41:13.480> next<01:41:13.840> week<01:41:14.240> or<01:41:14.400> by<01:41:14.640> town<01:41:14.920> meeting,<01:41:15.440> you by next week or by town meeting, you by next week or by town meeting, you know.” know.” know.” But<01:41:16.800> I<01:41:16.880> also<01:41:17.160> think<01:41:17.400> What<01:41:17.480> do<01:41:17.560> the<01:41:17.760> other But I also think What do the other But I also think What do the other committee<01:41:18.400> members<01:41:18.680> think? committee members think? committee members think? I<01:41:20.720> think<01:41:20.960> that I think that I think that we we we have<01:41:25.080> a<01:41:25.160> sense<01:41:26.360> of<01:41:26.560> what<01:41:26.760> the<01:41:26.880> needs<01:41:27.240> are.<01:41:27.480> I

1:41:27 have a sense of what the needs are. I have a sense of what the needs are. I mean,<01:41:27.720> John<01:41:28.000> has<01:41:28.280> pretty<01:41:28.560> well<01:41:28.800> articulated mean, John has pretty well articulated mean, John has pretty well articulated that<01:41:30.000> you<01:41:30.080> know,<01:41:30.200> we<01:41:30.440> need<01:41:31.080> to<01:41:31.160> fund<01:41:31.560> the<01:41:31.680> level that you know, we need to fund the level that you know, we need to fund the level services<01:41:32.480> budget<01:41:32.880> that<01:41:32.960> we<01:41:33.160> brought<01:41:33.560> forward services budget that we brought forward services budget that we brought forward this<01:41:34.200> year. this year. this year. Um<01:41:36.160> I Um I Um I my<01:41:37.520> understanding<01:41:38.160> is<01:41:38.320> the<01:41:38.440> projections<01:41:39.040> have my understanding is the projections have my understanding is the projections have been<01:41:39.360> made<01:41:39.720> about<01:41:39.960> what<01:41:40.120> our<01:41:40.240> contractual been made about what our contractual been made about what our contractual obligations<01:41:41.640> look<01:41:41.880> like<01:41:42.360> for<01:41:42.440> the<01:41:42.480> next obligations look like for the next obligations look like for the next couple<01:41:43.000> of<01:41:43.160> years. couple of years. couple of years. Um, Um, Um, people<01:41:45.320> have<01:41:45.520> priced<01:41:45.960> out<01:41:46.440> what,<01:41:47.160> you<01:41:47.240> know, people have priced out what, you know, people have priced out what, you know, kindergarten<01:41:47.960> tuition kindergarten tuition kindergarten tuition costs. costs. costs. You<01:41:50.640> know,<01:41:51.040> that's You know, that’s You know, that’s you<01:41:52.400> know,<01:41:52.520> maybe<01:41:52.880> not<01:41:53.280> every<01:41:53.680> single<01:41:54.040> thing you know, maybe not every single thing you know, maybe not every single thing that<01:41:54.560> if<01:41:54.680> we<01:41:54.840> all<01:41:55.080> sat<01:41:55.280> around<01:41:55.640> for<01:41:55.760> 6<01:41:56.000> months that if we all sat around for 6 months that if we all sat around for 6 months we<01:41:56.440> would<01:41:56.600> come<01:41:56.840> up<01:41:57.040> with<01:41:57.280> as<01:41:57.480> things,<01:41:58.000> you we would come up with as things, you we would come up with as things, you know,<01:41:58.280> to<01:41:58.440> fund<01:41:58.720> in<01:41:58.840> the<01:41:58.920> schools,<01:41:59.280> but<01:41:59.440> I know, to fund in the schools, but I know, to fund in the schools, but I think<01:41:59.680> that<01:41:59.840> is<01:42:00.000> really<01:42:00.320> significant think that is really significant think that is really significant progress<01:42:02.240> in<01:42:02.360> the<01:42:02.480> direction<01:42:03.040> that,<01:42:03.520> you progress in the direction that, you progress in the direction that, you know,<01:42:03.760> people<01:42:04.000> have<01:42:04.120> been<01:42:04.240> talking<01:42:04.720> for<01:42:05.160> time know, people have been talking for time know, people have been talking for time about<01:42:05.680> trying about trying about trying to<01:42:07.000> go. to go. to go. Um,<01:42:08.640> and<01:42:08.800> certainly<01:42:09.280> an<01:42:09.360> improvement<01:42:09.920> over Um, and certainly an improvement over Um, and certainly an improvement over the<01:42:10.280> level<01:42:10.640> of<01:42:10.720> funded<01:42:11.040> budget<01:42:11.880> um,<01:42:12.320> that<01:42:12.400> was

1:42:12 the level of funded budget um, that was the level of funded budget um, that was presented presented presented last<01:42:14.400> month. last month. last month. So,<01:42:15.920> you<01:42:16.000> know, So, you know, So, you know, is<01:42:17.000> it<01:42:17.080> an<01:42:17.200> opportunity<01:42:17.840> to<01:42:18.440> try<01:42:18.680> and<01:42:18.840> make is it an opportunity to try and make is it an opportunity to try and make something<01:42:19.520> out<01:42:19.640> of<01:42:19.760> the<01:42:19.920> really<01:42:20.280> unfortunate something out of the really unfortunate something out of the really unfortunate situation<01:42:21.840> that<01:42:22.000> we<01:42:22.120> all<01:42:22.280> find<01:42:22.560> ourselves situation that we all find ourselves situation that we all find ourselves sitting<01:42:23.800> here<01:42:24.440> having<01:42:24.760> to<01:42:24.880> do. I do want to make sure we understand I do want to make sure we understand what<01:42:28.960> the<01:42:29.040> dollar<01:42:29.360> amount<01:42:29.640> is<01:42:29.920> to<01:42:30.320> shore<01:42:30.800> up what the dollar amount is to shore up what the dollar amount is to shore up the<01:42:31.120> multi-year the multi-year the multi-year issue<01:42:33.280> we<01:42:33.360> have<01:42:33.560> on<01:42:33.720> our<01:42:33.840> hands.<01:42:34.160> I<01:42:34.440> I'm<01:42:34.680> not issue we have on our hands. I I’m not issue we have on our hands. I I’m not interested<01:42:35.520> in<01:42:35.640> backing<01:42:36.160> a<01:42:36.200> band-aid interested in backing a band-aid interested in backing a band-aid situation.<01:42:37.320> I'm<01:42:37.440> interested<01:42:37.880> in<01:42:37.960> backing situation. I’m interested in backing situation. I’m interested in backing something<01:42:38.680> that<01:42:38.800> structurally<01:42:39.840> fixes<01:42:41.120> the something that structurally fixes the something that structurally fixes the problem<01:42:41.480> that<01:42:41.640> we<01:42:41.720> have<01:42:41.960> in<01:42:42.040> front<01:42:42.200> of<01:42:42.280> us.<01:42:42.640> And problem that we have in front of us. And problem that we have in front of us. And I<01:42:42.760> think<01:42:43.000> Keith's<01:42:43.320> point,<01:42:43.920> you've<01:42:44.080> already I think Keith’s point, you’ve already I think Keith’s point, you’ve already done<01:42:45.400> you<01:42:45.560> understand<01:42:46.040> what<01:42:46.120> the<01:42:46.200> contractual done you understand what the contractual done you understand what the contractual obligations<01:42:47.280> are<01:42:47.400> and<01:42:47.480> what<01:42:47.560> those<01:42:47.720> dollar obligations are and what those dollar obligations are and what those dollar amounts<01:42:48.320> are.<01:42:48.520> And<01:42:48.640> so,<01:42:48.760> I<01:42:48.840> think<01:42:49.560> while<01:42:49.720> it amounts are. And so, I think while it amounts are. And so, I think while it will<01:42:49.880> not<01:42:50.120> be<01:42:50.360> a<01:42:50.800> perfect will not be a perfect will not be a perfect multiple<01:42:53.040> month<01:42:53.320> exercise<01:42:54.000> where<01:42:54.120> you<01:42:54.240> go<01:42:54.400> to multiple month exercise where you go to multiple month exercise where you go to everybody<01:42:54.920> you<01:42:55.040> ask<01:42:55.280> them<01:42:55.400> what<01:42:55.520> they<01:42:55.640> want, everybody you ask them what they want, everybody you ask them what they want, like<01:42:56.240> we<01:42:56.480> have<01:42:56.920> a

1:42:58 like we have a like we have a pretty<01:42:58.840> directionally<01:42:59.560> accurate<01:43:00.280> number<01:43:00.800> for pretty directionally accurate number for pretty directionally accurate number for what<01:43:01.520> that<01:43:02.040> you<01:43:02.120> know,<01:43:02.200> I<01:43:02.240> think<01:43:02.440> we<01:43:02.520> could what that you know, I think we could what that you know, I think we could just<01:43:02.840> keep<01:43:03.080> in<01:43:03.160> mind<01:43:03.440> that<01:43:03.560> that's<01:43:04.320> that's just keep in mind that that’s that’s just keep in mind that that’s that’s Well,<01:43:04.800> no.<01:43:05.120> I'm<01:43:05.160> talking<01:43:05.360> about<01:43:05.480> the<01:43:05.560> initial Well, no. I’m talking about the initial Well, no. I’m talking about the initial model<01:43:06.160> based<01:43:06.960> on<01:43:07.080> the<01:43:07.120> government<01:43:07.640> and<01:43:07.760> the model based on the government and the model based on the government and the school<01:43:08.280> rates.<01:43:08.600> Yeah,<01:43:08.840> if<01:43:08.960> we're<01:43:09.080> talking school rates. Yeah, if we’re talking school rates. Yeah, if we’re talking about<01:43:10.040> that's<01:43:10.280> not<01:43:10.480> backed<01:43:10.760> up<01:43:10.880> with<01:43:11.000> 14.75. about that’s not backed up with 14.75. about that’s not backed up with 14.75. Right.<01:43:13.480> And<01:43:13.720> then<01:43:13.840> that<01:43:14.040> is<01:43:14.280> 3.5.<01:43:15.360> You<01:43:15.480> know, Right. And then that is 3.5. You know, Right. And then that is 3.5. You know, what<01:43:15.800> I'm<01:43:15.880> saying?<01:43:16.040> So,<01:43:16.520> the<01:43:16.600> numbers<01:43:16.880> will what I’m saying? So, the numbers will what I’m saying? So, the numbers will look<01:43:17.200> different,<01:43:17.480> but<01:43:18.080> you'll<01:43:18.240> have<01:43:18.480> a<01:43:18.920> people look different, but you’ll have a people look different, but you’ll have a people suggesting<01:43:20.000> things. suggesting things. suggesting things. I’ll<01:43:21.960> look<01:43:22.120> for<01:43:22.240> the<01:43:22.360> numbers<01:43:22.720> and<01:43:22.840> find<01:43:23.080> any I’ll look for the numbers and find any I’ll look for the numbers and find any ways<01:43:23.880> he's<01:43:24.080> putting<01:43:24.360> numbers<01:43:24.680> in. ways he’s putting numbers in. ways he’s putting numbers in. Um,<01:43:26.280> I<01:43:26.360> think<01:43:26.600> I<01:43:26.680> think<01:43:26.840> at<01:43:26.920> the<01:43:27.000> end<01:43:27.120> of<01:43:27.200> the Um, I think I think at the end of the Um, I think I think at the end of the day day day the<01:43:29.320> room<01:43:29.600> for<01:43:30.040> what<01:43:30.240> we're<01:43:30.320> talking<01:43:30.560> about the room for what we’re talking about the room for what we’re talking about income income income will<01:43:33.080> have<01:43:33.240> a<01:43:33.720> feel<01:43:34.040> also<01:43:34.480> much<01:43:34.760> higher.<01:43:35.400> after will have a feel also much higher. after will have a feel also much higher. after making<01:43:36.080> my<01:43:36.200> issue<01:43:36.520> kind<01:43:36.760> of<01:43:37.200> also<01:43:37.480> nervous making my issue kind of also nervous making my issue kind of also nervous that’s<01:43:38.240> going<01:43:38.480> to<01:43:38.680> that's<01:43:38.880> going<01:43:39.040> to<01:43:39.120> happen. that’s going to that’s going to happen. that’s going to that’s going to happen. Help<01:43:40.160> us<01:43:40.280> navigate<01:43:40.960> the<01:43:41.040> second<01:43:41.360> part<01:43:41.520> of<01:43:41.600> the Help us navigate the second part of the Help us navigate the second part of the question<01:43:41.920> of<01:43:42.000> what<01:43:42.120> are<01:43:42.200> the<01:43:42.480> possible question of what are the possible question of what are the possible override<01:43:43.240> number<01:43:43.600> like<01:43:43.840> in<01:43:43.960> the<01:43:44.200> world<01:43:44.440> of<01:43:44.520> our

1:43:44 override number like in the world of our override number like in the world of our dreams. dreams. dreams. So,<01:43:46.360> you<01:43:46.440> can<01:43:46.520> make<01:43:46.600> it So, you can make it So, you can make it So,<01:43:48.320> I<01:43:48.400> think<01:43:48.840> so<01:43:48.960> you<01:43:49.080> know,<01:43:49.240> before<01:43:49.680> I So, I think so you know, before I So, I think so you know, before I when<01:43:50.520> I<01:43:50.600> built<01:43:51.160> this<01:43:51.320> year's<01:43:51.520> original<01:43:51.920> budget when I built this year’s original budget when I built this year’s original budget before<01:43:52.440> we<01:43:52.560> even<01:43:52.680> started<01:43:53.000> with<01:43:53.120> the<01:43:53.200> cuts<01:43:53.440> and before we even started with the cuts and before we even started with the cuts and we<01:43:53.600> had<01:43:53.720> the<01:43:53.800> $2.6<01:43:54.760> million<01:43:55.560> level we had the $2.6 million level we had the $2.6 million level level<01:43:56.840> service<01:43:57.280> budget<01:43:57.840> increase. level service budget increase. level service budget increase. I<01:43:59.520> also<01:43:59.840> did<01:44:00.000> the<01:44:00.080> budget<01:44:00.360> for<01:44:00.480> next<01:44:00.720> year<01:44:01.200> for I also did the budget for next year for I also did the budget for next year for fiscal<01:44:01.920> 20.<01:44:02.320> So,<01:44:02.640> to<01:44:02.760> answer<01:44:02.960> your<01:44:03.080> question, fiscal 20. So, to answer your question, fiscal 20. So, to answer your question, I<01:44:03.520> know<01:44:03.760> what<01:44:03.880> that<01:44:04.080> number<01:44:04.360> is<01:44:04.440> back<01:44:04.720> but<01:44:04.880> I I know what that number is back but I I know what that number is back but I don’t<01:44:05.320> know<01:44:05.440> that<01:44:05.640> that<01:44:05.760> we've<01:44:05.960> made<01:44:06.160> some don’t know that that we’ve made some don’t know that that we’ve made some cuts<01:44:06.640> now. cuts now. cuts now. How<01:44:07.480> much<01:44:07.680> else<01:44:07.800> I<01:44:07.880> come<01:44:08.080> out<01:44:08.360> and<01:44:08.440> what<01:44:08.560> is How much else I come out and what is How much else I come out and what is » Well,<01:44:08.680> exactly.<01:44:09.360> So,<01:44:10.240> if<01:44:10.360> the<01:44:10.480> idea<01:44:10.760> is<01:44:10.880> to » Well, exactly. So, if the idea is to » Well, exactly. So, if the idea is to fully<01:44:11.360> go<01:44:11.560> after<01:44:11.880> what<01:44:12.040> we<01:44:12.160> lost<01:44:12.520> this<01:44:12.720> year fully go after what we lost this year fully go after what we lost this year less<01:44:13.760> than<01:44:13.920> keep<01:44:14.280> the<01:44:14.400> services<01:44:14.880> the<01:44:14.960> same, less than keep the services the same, less than keep the services the same, that’s<01:44:16.120> a<01:44:16.200> pretty that’s a pretty that’s a pretty I<01:44:18.000> can<01:44:18.200> give<01:44:18.360> you<01:44:18.440> the<01:44:18.520> number. I can give you the number. I can give you the number. People<01:44:20.000> talk<01:44:20.200> about<01:44:20.400> dollar<01:44:20.720> increases,<01:44:21.400> I People talk about dollar increases, I People talk about dollar increases, I think<01:44:21.680> that's<01:44:21.880> what<01:44:22.000> we<01:44:22.080> need<01:44:22.280> our<01:44:22.600> guidance think that’s what we need our guidance think that’s what we need our guidance from<01:44:23.080> our<01:44:23.200> FinCom<01:44:23.760> because<01:44:24.040> we<01:44:24.120> don't<01:44:24.280> know from our FinCom because we don’t know from our FinCom because we don’t know what<01:44:24.480> the<01:44:24.600> revenues<01:44:25.040> are.<01:44:25.760> We<01:44:25.880> don't<01:44:26.040> need<01:44:26.280> all what the revenues are. We don’t need all what the revenues are. We don’t need all of<01:44:26.600> our<01:44:26.720> budget<01:44:27.120> increase.<01:44:27.640> We<01:44:27.880> need<01:44:28.000> the of our budget increase. We need the of our budget increase. We need the difference<01:44:28.560> between

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1:46:07 All right so we’ve got to go and put on All right so we’ve got to go and put on one<01:46:07.800> of<01:46:07.840> the<01:46:07.920> agenda<01:46:08.280> items<01:46:08.520> next<01:46:08.800> week one of the agenda items next week one of the agenda items next week Is<01:46:10.120> there<01:46:10.200> anything<01:46:10.400> else<01:46:11.120> around<01:46:11.280> the Is there anything else around the Is there anything else around the budget?<01:46:11.720> Well<01:46:11.800> yeah<01:46:12.280> yeah<01:46:12.520> there's<01:46:12.760> two budget? Well yeah yeah there’s two budget? Well yeah yeah there’s two things<01:46:13.160> one<01:46:13.440> we<01:46:13.600> still<01:46:13.800> didn't<01:46:14.200> decide things one we still didn’t decide things one we still didn’t decide whether<01:46:15.080> we<01:46:15.440> actually<01:46:15.960> want<01:46:16.400> to<01:46:16.440> go<01:46:16.560> forward whether we actually want to go forward whether we actually want to go forward with<01:46:17.080> this<01:46:17.760> on<01:46:17.880> the<01:46:17.960> benefit<01:46:18.320> side<01:46:18.600> and<01:46:18.840> we with this on the benefit side and we with this on the benefit side and we might<01:46:19.160> direct<01:46:20.000> Mike<01:46:20.280> to might direct Mike to might direct Mike to I<01:46:21.160> guess<01:46:21.360> maybe<01:46:21.560> there's<01:46:21.720> two<01:46:21.840> budgets<01:46:22.160> that I guess maybe there’s two budgets that I guess maybe there’s two budgets that need<01:46:22.400> to<01:46:22.480> be<01:46:22.560> prepared need to be prepared need to be prepared one<01:46:24.560> that<01:46:24.720> doesn't<01:46:25.520> that<01:46:25.600> includes one that doesn’t that includes one that doesn’t that includes um um um you<01:46:27.880> know<01:46:28.040> health<01:46:28.240> insurance<01:46:28.760> and<01:46:29.080> and you know health insurance and and you know health insurance and and pension<01:46:29.840> benefits<01:46:30.200> and<01:46:30.320> one<01:46:30.440> that<01:46:30.760> doesn't pension benefits and one that doesn’t pension benefits and one that doesn’t and<01:46:31.800> I<01:46:31.840> still<01:46:32.080> have<01:46:32.280> the<01:46:32.400> question<01:46:32.760> out<01:46:32.880> on<01:46:32.960> the and I still have the question out on the and I still have the question out on the table<01:46:33.360> whether<01:46:34.040> we<01:46:34.200> want<01:46:34.360> to<01:46:34.400> open<01:46:34.520> this<01:46:34.640> up table whether we want to open this up table whether we want to open this up for<01:46:34.880> public<01:46:35.120> comment<01:46:36.040> Yeah<01:46:36.360> I<01:46:36.440> said<01:46:36.640> yeah<01:46:36.760> I'll for public comment Yeah I said yeah I’ll for public comment Yeah I said yeah I’ll address<01:46:37.240> that<01:46:37.520> I'm<01:46:37.680> open<01:46:37.920> to<01:46:38.040> that<01:46:38.600> we'll<01:46:38.720> go address that I’m open to that we’ll go address that I’m open to that we’ll go through<01:46:39.040> all<01:46:39.160> of<01:46:39.240> the<01:46:39.320> committee<01:46:39.640> when<01:46:39.800> we're through all of the committee when we’re through all of the committee when we’re when<01:46:40.400> we're<01:46:40.520> done<01:46:40.720> discussing<01:46:41.160> the<01:46:41.240> fiscal when we’re done discussing the fiscal when we’re done discussing the fiscal year<01:46:41.640> 27<01:46:42.200> budget year 27 budget year 27 budget I<01:46:43.320> think<01:46:43.520> the<01:46:43.600> benefits<01:46:43.960> are<01:46:44.080> one<01:46:44.360> line<01:46:44.600> item I think the benefits are one line item I think the benefits are one line item additional<01:46:45.240> on<01:46:45.320> the<01:46:45.360> budget<01:46:45.720> so<01:46:45.920> I<01:46:46.360> Yeah<01:46:46.680> it additional on the budget so I Yeah it additional on the budget so I Yeah it was<01:46:46.880> a<01:46:46.920> little<01:46:47.120> bit<01:46:47.320> off<01:46:47.560> to<01:46:47.720> operational<01:46:48.400> line was a little bit off to operational line was a little bit off to operational line It’s<01:46:50.000> I<01:46:50.080> I<01:46:50.120> think<01:46:50.280> it's<01:46:50.400> two<01:46:50.600> two<01:46:50.760> additional It’s I I think it’s two two additional It’s I I think it’s two two additional line<01:46:51.320> items<01:46:51.560> in<01:46:51.640> the<01:46:51.720> budget<01:46:52.120> one<01:46:52.200> for line items in the budget one for line items in the budget one for benefits<01:46:52.800> and<01:46:52.920> one<01:46:53.040> for<01:46:53.160> retirement<01:46:53.760> and

1:46:54 benefits and one for retirement and benefits and one for retirement and pension<01:46:54.920> Oh<01:46:55.560> it<01:46:55.640> could<01:46:55.800> be<01:46:55.880> up<01:46:56.000> to<01:46:56.080> five<01:46:56.360> or<01:46:56.440> six pension Oh it could be up to five or six pension Oh it could be up to five or six lines<01:46:57.560> I<01:46:57.600> mean<01:46:57.760> I'd<01:46:57.840> rather<01:46:58.080> you<01:46:58.280> managed<01:46:59.200> it lines I mean I’d rather you managed it lines I mean I’d rather you managed it and<01:46:59.520> it<01:46:59.640> was<01:46:59.800> in<01:47:00.000> there<01:47:00.320> okay and it was in there okay and it was in there okay that<01:47:01.920> makes<01:47:02.280> Absolutely<01:47:02.960> and<01:47:03.080> and<01:47:03.200> I<01:47:03.280> think that makes Absolutely and and I think that makes Absolutely and and I think you<01:47:03.520> control<01:47:04.040> it<01:47:04.600> but you control it but you control it but people<01:47:05.760> always<01:47:05.960> say<01:47:06.400> how<01:47:06.480> much<01:47:06.640> is<01:47:06.720> the<01:47:07.040> how people always say how much is the how people always say how much is the how much<01:47:07.280> is<01:47:07.360> the<01:47:07.440> benefits<01:47:07.800> cost<01:47:08.040> the<01:47:08.120> town<01:47:08.600> and much is the benefits cost the town and much is the benefits cost the town and my<01:47:08.960> answer's<01:47:09.320> always<01:47:09.680> been<01:47:10.360> I<01:47:10.440> don't<01:47:10.680> know<01:47:10.880> and my answer’s always been I don’t know and my answer’s always been I don’t know and in<01:47:11.360> quite<01:47:11.600> honestly<01:47:11.920> they<01:47:12.120> didn't<01:47:12.880> Yeah<01:47:13.320> and in quite honestly they didn’t Yeah and in quite honestly they didn’t Yeah and I’m<01:47:13.440> saying<01:47:13.720> not<01:47:14.080> didn't<01:47:14.320> care I’m saying not didn’t care I’m saying not didn’t care but<01:47:15.480> it<01:47:15.640> wasn't<01:47:16.000> something<01:47:16.280> that<01:47:16.440> I<01:47:16.680> it<01:47:16.760> wasn't but it wasn’t something that I it wasn’t but it wasn’t something that I it wasn’t my<01:47:17.240> purpose<01:47:17.680> so<01:47:17.760> I<01:47:17.800> didn't<01:47:17.920> get<01:47:18.040> myself my purpose so I didn’t get myself my purpose so I didn’t get myself involved<01:47:18.760> in<01:47:18.840> it<01:47:18.960> and<01:47:19.040> then<01:47:19.640> if<01:47:19.840> we're<01:47:20.240> if involved in it and then if we’re if involved in it and then if we’re if we’re<01:47:20.560> involved<01:47:20.920> in<01:47:21.120> it,<01:47:21.520> our<01:47:21.720> budget<01:47:22.560> I<01:47:22.600> think we’re involved in it, our budget I think we’re involved in it, our budget I think we’re<01:47:22.840> going<01:47:22.960> to<01:47:23.000> take<01:47:23.160> a<01:47:23.320> greater<01:47:23.800> interest we’re going to take a greater interest we’re going to take a greater interest in<01:47:24.400> controlling in controlling in controlling Let’s<01:47:26.680> say<01:47:26.760> controlling<01:47:27.080> the<01:47:27.160> cost<01:47:27.440> and Let’s say controlling the cost and Let’s say controlling the cost and controlling<01:47:27.880> how<01:47:27.960> much<01:47:28.120> is<01:47:28.240> budgeted. controlling how much is budgeted. controlling how much is budgeted. Well,<01:47:30.640> also<01:47:31.000> controlling<01:47:31.440> the<01:47:31.520> cost,<01:47:31.800> Mike.<01:47:32.000> I Well, also controlling the cost, Mike. I Well, also controlling the cost, Mike. I mean,<01:47:32.240> like,<01:47:32.560> you<01:47:32.640> know,<01:47:32.880> till<01:47:33.080> what<01:47:33.200> happens mean, like, you know, till what happens mean, like, you know, till what happens is<01:47:33.640> you<01:47:33.720> start<01:47:33.960> thinking<01:47:34.280> about<01:47:35.040> when<01:47:35.160> you're is you start thinking about when you’re is you start thinking about when you’re doing<01:47:35.520> hot<01:47:35.760> new<01:47:35.920> hires,<01:47:36.360> etc.,<01:47:36.680> like<01:47:36.920> what<01:47:37.080> is doing hot new hires, etc., like what is doing hot new hires, etc., like what is the<01:47:37.560> all-in<01:47:38.040> cost?<01:47:39.280> And,<01:47:40.000> you<01:47:40.120> know,

1:47:41 the all-in cost? And, you know, the all-in cost? And, you know, that<01:47:41.400> you<01:47:41.480> know,<01:47:41.560> that's<01:47:41.800> important.<01:47:42.760> I<01:47:43.040> I that you know, that’s important. I I that you know, that’s important. I I also<01:47:43.600> cannot<01:47:44.680> emphasize<01:47:45.200> enough<01:47:45.960> that<01:47:46.120> we also cannot emphasize enough that we also cannot emphasize enough that we going<01:47:46.360> to<01:47:46.440> get<01:47:46.600> one<01:47:46.800> shot<01:47:46.960> at<01:47:47.040> the<01:47:47.160> apple<01:47:47.400> here going to get one shot at the apple here going to get one shot at the apple here if<01:47:47.680> this<01:47:47.840> is<01:47:48.000> what's<01:47:48.200> going<01:47:48.320> to<01:47:48.360> happen,<01:47:49.120> and if this is what’s going to happen, and if this is what’s going to happen, and we<01:47:49.880> absolutely<01:47:50.520> are<01:47:50.640> going<01:47:50.760> to<01:47:50.840> need<01:47:51.040> to<01:47:51.120> have we absolutely are going to need to have we absolutely are going to need to have a<01:47:51.720> seat<01:47:51.960> at<01:47:52.040> the<01:47:52.120> table<01:47:52.520> on<01:47:52.640> the<01:47:52.720> negotiation a seat at the table on the negotiation a seat at the table on the negotiation of<01:47:54.280> these<01:47:54.520> benefits<01:47:55.160> going<01:47:55.400> forward. of these benefits going forward. of these benefits going forward. Because<01:47:56.600> if<01:47:56.720> you<01:47:56.800> don't<01:47:57.000> have<01:47:57.160> that, Because if you don’t have that, Because if you don’t have that, I’m<01:47:58.760> only<01:47:58.960> one<01:47:59.120> vote,<01:47:59.440> but<01:47:59.560> I<01:47:59.640> can't<01:47:59.920> I I’m only one vote, but I can’t I I’m only one vote, but I can’t I wouldn’t<01:48:00.200> be<01:48:00.280> able<01:48:00.400> to<01:48:00.480> support<01:48:01.320> bringing wouldn’t be able to support bringing wouldn’t be able to support bringing them<01:48:01.720> over<01:48:01.920> if<01:48:02.040> we<01:48:02.120> have<01:48:02.280> no<01:48:02.560> control<01:48:03.120> over<01:48:03.280> it. them over if we have no control over it. them over if we have no control over it. It<01:48:03.440> would<01:48:03.520> be<01:48:03.640> like<01:48:04.160> giving<01:48:04.480> us<01:48:04.640> the<01:48:04.840> the It would be like giving us the the It would be like giving us the the contract<01:48:05.920> for<01:48:06.000> the<01:48:06.240> for<01:48:06.400> the<01:48:06.600> five<01:48:06.880> units<01:48:07.240> and contract for the for the five units and contract for the for the five units and having<01:48:08.080> and<01:48:08.200> not<01:48:08.360> having<01:48:08.520> the<01:48:08.600> ability<01:48:08.840> to having and not having the ability to having and not having the ability to negotiate<01:48:09.440> the<01:48:09.480> contract. negotiate the contract. negotiate the contract. It’s<01:48:12.280> I<01:48:12.320> talked<01:48:12.600> to<01:48:12.680> Beth<01:48:12.920> the<01:48:13.040> other<01:48:13.360> day<01:48:13.640> cuz It’s I talked to Beth the other day cuz It’s I talked to Beth the other day cuz I<01:48:13.880> was<01:48:14.040> like,<01:48:14.320> "Oh,<01:48:14.440> the<01:48:14.560> private<01:48:14.960> sector, I was like, “Oh, the private sector, I was like, “Oh, the private sector, we’d<01:48:15.560> be<01:48:15.680> really<01:48:15.960> negotiating<01:48:16.760> like<01:48:16.960> what<01:48:17.080> are we’d be really negotiating like what are we’d be really negotiating like what are these<01:48:17.400> benefits?"<01:48:17.880> And<01:48:18.000> he's<01:48:18.240> like,<01:48:18.760> "No these benefits?” And he’s like, “No these benefits?” And he’s like, “No carrier<01:48:19.440> will<01:48:19.600> have<01:48:19.880> us.<01:48:20.360> We<01:48:20.440> only<01:48:20.640> sat<01:48:20.880> with carrier will have us. We only sat with carrier will have us. We only sat with them.<01:48:21.440> We're<01:48:22.440> $2<01:48:22.920> million<01:48:23.280> liability<01:48:24.160> for them. We’re $2 million liability for them. We’re $2 million liability for them<01:48:24.480> every<01:48:24.720> year.<01:48:25.000> Like,<01:48:25.200> we're<01:48:25.320> kind<01:48:25.680> of them every year. Like, we’re kind of

1:48:26 them every year. Like, we’re kind of can’t<01:48:26.440> help." can’t help.” can’t help.” But<01:48:27.760> we<01:48:27.920> all<01:48:28.200> But<01:48:28.440> we<01:48:28.520> all<01:48:28.760> generally<01:48:29.080> still But we all But we all generally still But we all But we all generally still want<01:48:29.480> to<01:48:29.560> have<01:48:29.680> a<01:48:29.720> seat<01:48:29.960> at<01:48:30.040> the<01:48:30.120> table. want to have a seat at the table. want to have a seat at the table. » But<01:48:30.680> there's<01:48:30.880> also<01:48:31.360> I<01:48:31.400> mean,<01:48:31.600> there's<01:48:31.760> still » But there’s also I mean, there’s still » But there’s also I mean, there’s still also<01:48:32.880> you<01:48:33.000> know,<01:48:33.240> I<01:48:33.280> mean,<01:48:33.440> not<01:48:33.640> to<01:48:33.760> get<01:48:33.880> into also you know, I mean, not to get into also you know, I mean, not to get into the<01:48:34.120> nitty-gritty,<01:48:34.520> but,<01:48:34.800> you<01:48:34.880> know,<01:48:35.040> how the nitty-gritty, but, you know, how the nitty-gritty, but, you know, how much<01:48:35.440> of<01:48:35.560> the<01:48:35.760> of<01:48:35.960> the<01:48:36.040> we<01:48:36.240> are<01:48:36.360> we<01:48:36.520> paying much of the of the we are we paying much of the of the we are we paying versus<01:48:37.120> the<01:48:37.200> employee<01:48:37.520> paying?<01:48:37.760> Those<01:48:38.080> are versus the employee paying? Those are versus the employee paying? Those are things<01:48:38.560> that<01:48:38.680> get<01:48:38.840> negotiated. things that get negotiated. things that get negotiated. Regardless<01:48:41.920> of<01:48:42.000> the<01:48:42.120> premium. Regardless of the premium. Regardless of the premium. I<01:48:44.120> assume<01:48:44.320> that's<01:48:44.520> in<01:48:44.600> the<01:48:44.680> contract.<01:48:45.280> I<01:48:45.320> don't I assume that’s in the contract. I don’t I assume that’s in the contract. I don’t know<01:48:45.520> if<01:48:45.600> it's<01:48:45.680> for<01:48:45.840> paying<01:48:46.160> or know if it’s for paying or know if it’s for paying or It’s<01:48:47.360> It's<01:48:47.600> not<01:48:47.880> It's<01:48:48.040> not<01:48:48.240> part<01:48:48.400> of<01:48:48.520> the<01:48:48.920> you It’s It’s not It’s not part of the you It’s It’s not It’s not part of the you know,<01:48:49.120> the<01:48:49.440> the<01:48:49.560> school<01:48:49.840> contract.<01:48:50.280> It's<01:48:50.440> part know, the the school contract. It’s part know, the the school contract. It’s part of<01:48:50.680> the<01:48:51.200> pet<01:48:51.400> contract,<01:48:51.840> which<01:48:52.000> right<01:48:52.160> now<01:48:52.520> is of the pet contract, which right now is of the pet contract, which right now is being<01:48:53.040> negotiated<01:48:53.520> and<01:48:53.600> that's<01:48:53.840> on<01:48:53.920> the<01:48:54.000> town being negotiated and that’s on the town being negotiated and that’s on the town side.<01:48:54.680> I'm<01:48:54.840> just<01:48:55.000> saying<01:48:55.640> we<01:48:55.800> need<01:48:56.000> to<01:48:56.080> have<01:48:56.280> a side. I’m just saying we need to have a side. I’m just saying we need to have a seat<01:48:56.520> at<01:48:56.600> the<01:48:56.680> table. seat at the table. seat at the table. Yeah,<01:48:58.240> agreed. All right, so there’s All right, so there’s a<01:49:05.360> suggestion<01:49:05.880> that<01:49:06.000> we<01:49:06.400> open<01:49:06.680> up<01:49:06.840> public a suggestion that we open up public a suggestion that we open up public comment.<01:49:07.520> This<01:49:07.640> is<01:49:07.960> Just<01:49:08.160> want<01:49:08.280> to<01:49:08.360> know<01:49:08.440> who comment. This is Just want to know who comment. This is Just want to know who will<01:49:08.880> I will I will I I<01:49:09.680> support<01:49:10.080> that,<01:49:10.400> but<01:49:10.480> I<01:49:10.520> want<01:49:10.640> to<01:49:10.720> know<01:49:10.840> who I support that, but I want to know who I support that, but I want to know who will<01:49:11.200> of<01:49:11.280> the<01:49:11.360> committee<01:49:11.720> is.<01:49:12.520> I<01:49:12.760> support.

1:49:14 will of the committee is. I support. will of the committee is. I support. Okay. Okay. Okay. All<01:49:16.000> right.<01:49:16.560> So,<01:49:16.840> folks,<01:49:17.960> like<01:49:18.880> I<01:49:19.560> have<01:49:19.680> a All right. So, folks, like I have a All right. So, folks, like I have a public<01:49:20.040> comment. public comment. public comment. Yeah,<01:49:21.320> so Yeah, so Yeah, so folks<01:49:22.560> in<01:49:22.640> the<01:49:22.720> room<01:49:23.040> if<01:49:23.360> you<01:49:23.440> know,<01:49:23.560> we<01:49:23.640> don't folks in the room if you know, we don’t folks in the room if you know, we don’t have<01:49:23.920> a<01:49:23.960> sign<01:49:24.160> up<01:49:24.240> sheet<01:49:24.520> but<01:49:24.800> just<01:49:25.200> you<01:49:25.280> know, have a sign up sheet but just you know, have a sign up sheet but just you know, come<01:49:25.920> up<01:49:26.040> to<01:49:26.120> the<01:49:26.200> mic<01:49:26.840> with<01:49:26.960> still<01:49:27.440> 3<01:49:27.680> minute come up to the mic with still 3 minute come up to the mic with still 3 minute Oh<01:49:28.680> yeah,<01:49:29.120> it's<01:49:29.240> fine.<01:49:29.440> Yeah.<01:49:30.080> And<01:49:30.360> remote Oh yeah, it’s fine. Yeah. And remote Oh yeah, it’s fine. Yeah. And remote folks<01:49:31.080> can<01:49:31.240> raise<01:49:31.440> their<01:49:31.600> hands<01:49:31.920> please<01:49:32.160> if folks can raise their hands please if folks can raise their hands please if they<01:49:32.400> want<01:49:32.560> to<01:49:32.640> make<01:49:32.760> a<01:49:32.840> comment.<01:49:33.640> So<01:49:33.720> I<01:49:33.800> just they want to make a comment. So I just they want to make a comment. So I just want<01:49:34.160> to<01:49:34.240> confirm want to confirm want to confirm what<01:49:36.520> John<01:49:36.880> you<01:49:37.000> were<01:49:37.120> saying<01:49:37.480> that<01:49:37.640> if<01:49:37.760> you what John you were saying that if you what John you were saying that if you were<01:49:38.200> asked<01:49:38.640> for<01:49:39.520> what<01:49:39.760> you<01:49:39.840> would<01:49:39.960> like<01:49:40.480> to<01:49:40.880> to were asked for what you would like to to were asked for what you would like to to include<01:49:41.320> in<01:49:41.440> an<01:49:41.560> override<01:49:42.000> you<01:49:42.120> would<01:49:42.440> say<01:49:42.680> I include in an override you would say I include in an override you would say I want<01:49:42.960> my<01:49:43.080> level<01:49:43.400> services<01:49:43.920> budget want my level services budget want my level services budget back.<01:49:45.920> Is<01:49:46.080> that back. Is that back. Is that what<01:49:47.320> you're<01:49:47.400> saying<01:49:47.640> or<01:49:47.800> did<01:49:48.080> you<01:49:48.160> need<01:49:48.320> level what you’re saying or did you need level what you’re saying or did you need level funded? funded? funded? Oh<01:49:50.160> no,<01:49:50.480> I<01:49:50.680> I<01:49:50.800> said<01:49:51.640> that<01:49:51.960> if<01:49:52.200> if<01:49:52.400> I<01:49:52.480> were<01:49:52.600> put<01:49:52.760> on Oh no, I I said that if if I were put on Oh no, I I said that if if I were put on the<01:49:52.960> spot<01:49:53.400> if<01:49:53.520> I<01:49:53.600> were<01:49:53.720> put<01:49:53.840> on<01:49:53.920> the<01:49:54.000> spot the spot if I were put on the spot the spot if I were put on the spot tonight<01:49:54.520> to<01:49:54.640> say<01:49:54.920> what<01:49:55.120> what<01:49:55.280> I<01:49:55.360> want<01:49:55.680> I<01:49:55.720> would tonight to say what what I want I would tonight to say what what I want I would start<01:49:56.120> with<01:49:56.600> the<01:49:56.680> level<01:49:56.960> services<01:49:57.320> budget start with the level services budget start with the level services budget that<01:49:57.680> we<01:49:57.800> started<01:49:58.160> with.<01:49:58.520> Which<01:49:58.720> is<01:49:58.920> two<01:49:59.080> and<01:49:59.200> a

1:49:59 that we started with. Which is two and a that we started with. Which is two and a half<01:49:59.440> million<01:49:59.760> dollars<01:50:00.200> more<01:50:00.440> than<01:50:00.640> what half million dollars more than what half million dollars more than what where<01:50:01.160> you<01:50:01.280> ended<01:50:01.440> up.<01:50:01.560> More<01:50:01.680> than<01:50:01.800> we<01:50:01.880> cut<01:50:02.120> out where you ended up. More than we cut out where you ended up. More than we cut out of<01:50:02.320> the<01:50:02.400> budget,<01:50:02.640> yeah.<01:50:03.080> Right.<01:50:03.600> 2.7<01:50:04.160> Uh<01:50:04.240> no, of the budget, yeah. Right. 2.7 Uh no, of the budget, yeah. Right. 2.7 Uh no, cuz<01:50:04.520> some<01:50:04.680> of<01:50:04.760> it<01:50:04.840> came<01:50:05.000> down<01:50:05.200> cuz<01:50:05.360> of cuz some of it came down cuz of cuz some of it came down cuz of revolving<01:50:06.400> funds<01:50:06.720> but revolving funds but revolving funds but I<01:50:07.880> it<01:50:08.000> was<01:50:08.120> 1.7.<01:50:09.160> 1.7<01:50:09.920> was<01:50:10.560> the<01:50:10.680> level<01:50:10.960> services I it was 1.7. 1.7 was the level services I it was 1.7. 1.7 was the level services after<01:50:11.800> we after we after we reallocated.<01:50:14.280> Okay.<01:50:14.760> All<01:50:14.840> right,<01:50:15.080> so<01:50:15.160> you reallocated. Okay. All right, so you reallocated. Okay. All right, so you need<01:50:15.400> to<01:50:15.440> keep<01:50:15.680> the<01:50:15.800> revolving<01:50:16.360> funds<01:50:16.760> the<01:50:16.840> way need to keep the revolving funds the way need to keep the revolving funds the way that<01:50:17.160> you<01:50:17.240> set<01:50:17.440> them<01:50:17.560> up<01:50:17.720> now<01:50:18.040> or<01:50:18.200> the<01:50:18.800> salaries that you set them up now or the salaries that you set them up now or the salaries in<01:50:19.280> that.<01:50:19.920> So<01:50:20.240> so<01:50:20.520> that's<01:50:20.800> a<01:50:20.840> 1.7<01:50:21.560> million in that. So so that’s a 1.7 million in that. So so that’s a 1.7 million dollar<01:50:22.240> override<01:50:22.640> plus<01:50:22.880> the<01:50:22.960> contractual dollar override plus the contractual dollar override plus the contractual increases.<01:50:24.080> Do<01:50:24.160> you<01:50:24.200> guys<01:50:24.360> have<01:50:24.560> any<01:50:24.840> idea<01:50:25.200> how increases. Do you guys have any idea how increases. Do you guys have any idea how much<01:50:25.520> that<01:50:25.680> should<01:50:25.840> have<01:50:25.920> cost<01:50:26.160> next<01:50:26.400> year? much that should have cost next year? much that should have cost next year? The<01:50:26.760> wage<01:50:27.000> increases? The wage increases? The wage increases? It’s<01:50:28.320> not<01:50:28.560> just<01:50:29.040> contractual.<01:50:30.360> I<01:50:30.400> mean<01:50:30.520> we It’s not just contractual. I mean we It’s not just contractual. I mean we need<01:50:30.800> we<01:50:31.120> we<01:50:31.200> budget<01:50:31.520> we<01:50:31.880> we<01:50:31.960> project need we we budget we we project need we we budget we we project contractual<01:50:33.600> services. contractual services. contractual services. » by<01:50:34.320> the<01:50:34.440> way<01:50:34.600> not<01:50:34.800> a<01:50:34.880> press<01:50:35.160> conference.<01:50:35.560> This » by the way not a press conference. This » by the way not a press conference. This is<01:50:35.920> a<01:50:36.000> public<01:50:36.320> comment.<01:50:36.960> Yeah,<01:50:37.400> we<01:50:37.520> just is a public comment. Yeah, we just is a public comment. Yeah, we just » [laughter] » [laughter] » [laughter] » Yeah,<01:50:39.160> I'm<01:50:39.320> just<01:50:39.480> I'm<01:50:39.640> only<01:50:39.840> answering » Yeah, I’m just I’m only answering » Yeah, I’m just I’m only answering questions.<01:50:40.640> Sorry<01:50:40.880> again.<01:50:41.200> Okay.<01:50:41.680> Sorry<01:50:41.960> to questions. Sorry again. Okay. Sorry to questions. Sorry again. Okay. Sorry to interrupt.<01:50:42.360> Yeah,<01:50:42.760> you<01:50:42.840> guys<01:50:43.040> have<01:50:43.120> the interrupt. Yeah, you guys have the interrupt. Yeah, you guys have the opportunity<01:50:43.720> to<01:50:43.800> educate<01:50:44.200> the<01:50:44.240> public<01:50:44.600> cuz

1:50:44 opportunity to educate the public cuz opportunity to educate the public cuz you<01:50:44.880> are<01:50:45.200> you're<01:50:45.280> asking<01:50:45.600> them you are you’re asking them you are you’re asking them to<01:50:46.960> raise<01:50:47.160> their<01:50:47.280> taxes<01:50:47.800> and<01:50:47.960> so<01:50:48.160> it<01:50:48.280> might<01:50:48.440> be to raise their taxes and so it might be to raise their taxes and so it might be helpful<01:50:48.960> to<01:50:49.320> to<01:50:49.440> speak<01:50:49.800> them<01:50:49.960> along<01:50:50.280> in<01:50:50.360> this helpful to to speak them along in this helpful to to speak them along in this process.<01:50:51.640> It<01:50:51.960> would<01:50:52.080> be<01:50:52.200> but<01:50:52.320> it's<01:50:52.480> also process. It would be but it’s also process. It would be but it’s also important<01:50:53.080> to<01:50:53.160> hear<01:50:53.400> from<01:50:53.600> the<01:50:53.720> public<01:50:54.040> based important to hear from the public based important to hear from the public based on<01:50:54.320> what<01:50:54.400> we<01:50:54.480> deliberated<01:50:54.920> tonight<01:50:55.120> and on what we deliberated tonight and on what we deliberated tonight and that’s<01:50:55.400> what<01:50:55.520> I<01:50:55.560> was<01:50:55.720> asking<01:50:56.080> for.<01:50:56.480> I<01:50:56.720> I<01:50:56.760> live that’s what I was asking for. I I live that’s what I was asking for. I I live in<01:50:57.120> town.<01:50:57.560> I<01:50:57.640> am<01:50:57.800> the<01:50:57.880> public.<01:50:58.800> Also<01:50:59.320> in in town. I am the public. Also in in town. I am the public. Also in addition<01:50:59.680> to addition to addition to » So<01:50:59.800> let's<01:51:00.000> tell<01:51:00.160> us<01:51:00.280> what<01:51:00.400> you<01:51:00.480> think. » So let’s tell us what you think. » So let’s tell us what you think. That<01:51:03.040> is<01:51:03.160> not<01:51:03.320> what<01:51:03.440> I'm<01:51:03.520> going<01:51:03.640> to<01:51:03.720> do. That is not what I’m going to do. That is not what I’m going to do. I’m<01:51:05.600> still<01:51:06.000> trying<01:51:06.320> to<01:51:06.360> figure<01:51:06.600> it<01:51:06.720> out<01:51:06.880> just I’m still trying to figure it out just I’m still trying to figure it out just like<01:51:07.240> so<01:51:07.520> many<01:51:07.800> other<01:51:08.000> people<01:51:08.320> but<01:51:08.480> if<01:51:08.600> you like so many other people but if you like so many other people but if you don’t<01:51:08.840> want<01:51:09.000> me<01:51:09.080> to<01:51:09.160> ask<01:51:09.400> questions<01:51:09.960> and<01:51:10.080> help don’t want me to ask questions and help don’t want me to ask questions and help the<01:51:10.400> public<01:51:11.040> public<01:51:11.400> better<01:51:12.080> it,<01:51:12.600> I<01:51:12.800> will the public public better it, I will the public public better it, I will email<01:51:13.360> you<01:51:13.440> guys. email you guys. email you guys. Thank<01:51:14.800> you.<01:51:15.120> For<01:51:15.720> any<01:51:16.040> to<01:51:16.160> me<01:51:16.280> public<01:51:16.560> comment Thank you. For any to me public comment Thank you. For any to me public comment will<01:51:16.880> be<01:51:17.040> you<01:51:17.160> at<01:51:17.240> least<01:51:17.480> saying<01:51:17.760> Liam,<01:51:18.280> you will be you at least saying Liam, you will be you at least saying Liam, you know,<01:51:18.520> I<01:51:18.600> would<01:51:18.720> like<01:51:18.880> to<01:51:19.000> suggest<01:51:19.520> to<01:51:19.640> the know, I would like to suggest to the know, I would like to suggest to the committee<01:51:20.920> what<01:51:21.080> you<01:51:21.200> just<01:51:21.400> said.<01:51:21.960> And<01:51:22.040> that committee what you just said. And that committee what you just said. And that that<01:51:22.600> will<01:51:22.720> be<01:51:22.880> fine<01:51:23.160> under<01:51:23.320> public<01:51:23.680> comment. that will be fine under public comment. that will be fine under public comment. I<01:51:24.640> would<01:51:24.760> like<01:51:24.920> to I would like to I would like to » I’d like<01:51:25.200> to<01:51:25.280> suggest<01:51:25.640> the<01:51:25.720> committee<01:51:26.040> that » I’d like to suggest the committee that » I’d like to suggest the committee that they<01:51:26.280> keep<01:51:26.520> the<01:51:26.600> public<01:51:26.960> informed<01:51:27.520> around<01:51:28.320> Oh they keep the public informed around Oh they keep the public informed around Oh yeah,<01:51:28.760> or<01:51:29.440> is<01:51:29.560> answer<01:51:29.840> my<01:51:30.040> emails<01:51:30.400> when<01:51:30.560> it

1:51:30 yeah, or is answer my emails when it yeah, or is answer my emails when it comes<01:51:31.000> to<01:51:31.440> um comes to um comes to um our<01:51:32.120> media<01:51:32.440> requests<01:51:32.880> in<01:51:32.960> general<01:51:33.320> when<01:51:33.440> it our media requests in general when it our media requests in general when it comes<01:51:33.840> to<01:51:34.520> what<01:51:34.840> it<01:51:35.000> is<01:51:35.120> that<01:51:35.240> you're<01:51:35.360> going<01:51:35.480> to comes to what it is that you’re going to comes to what it is that you’re going to be<01:51:35.640> looking<01:51:35.960> for<01:51:36.360> and<01:51:36.640> asking<01:51:37.520> because<01:51:37.800> then be looking for and asking because then be looking for and asking because then Right.<01:51:39.600> There<01:51:39.760> you<01:51:39.840> go.<01:51:40.280> Thank<01:51:40.600> you. Right. There you go. Thank you. Right. There you go. Thank you. That’s<01:51:41.680> very<01:51:41.920> fair<01:51:42.240> that<01:51:42.440> your<01:51:42.600> emails<01:51:42.920> get That’s very fair that your emails get That’s very fair that your emails get answered<01:51:43.480> Liam.<01:51:43.960> That's<01:51:44.160> a<01:51:44.240> fair<01:51:44.560> request.

1:51:50 I’ll send you one tonight then. I’ll send you one tonight then. » [laughter] » [laughter] » [laughter] » Sarah » Sarah » Sarah » I’m<01:51:52.040> not<01:51:52.240> the<01:51:52.320> spokesperson,<01:51:52.920> that's<01:51:53.120> the » I’m not the spokesperson, that’s the » I’m not the spokesperson, that’s the chair.

1:51:59 You talked about an MOU and the need for You talked about an MOU and the need for it.<01:51:59.920> Um<01:52:00.480> we<01:52:00.920> signed<01:52:01.200> an<01:52:01.320> MOU<01:52:02.160> in<01:52:02.560> 2019-2020 it. Um we signed an MOU in 2019-2020 it. Um we signed an MOU in 2019-2020 school<01:52:05.600> year<01:52:06.200> between<01:52:06.640> select<01:52:07.040> board,<01:52:07.400> the school year between select board, the school year between select board, the school<01:52:07.800> committee<01:52:08.560> that<01:52:08.760> there<01:52:08.920> would<01:52:09.120> be school committee that there would be school committee that there would be designees<01:52:10.080> from<01:52:10.200> the<01:52:10.240> school<01:52:10.480> committee<01:52:10.800> to designees from the school committee to designees from the school committee to select<01:52:11.240> board<01:52:12.040> and<01:52:12.840> um<01:52:12.960> the<01:52:13.040> FinCom<01:52:13.520> that<01:52:13.720> met select board and um the FinCom that met select board and um the FinCom that met uh<01:52:14.880> where<01:52:15.040> Dan<01:52:15.360> said<01:52:15.520> that<01:52:15.640> it<01:52:15.720> needs<01:52:15.880> to<01:52:16.000> be uh where Dan said that it needs to be uh where Dan said that it needs to be signed<01:52:16.520> and<01:52:16.680> and<01:52:16.840> then<01:52:16.960> we<01:52:17.160> have<01:52:17.360> some signed and and then we have some signed and and then we have some assurances.<01:52:18.000> I<01:52:18.080> just<01:52:18.280> want<01:52:18.400> to<01:52:18.440> read<01:52:18.640> back<01:52:18.840> his assurances. I just want to read back his assurances. I just want to read back his text<01:52:19.360> thread<01:52:19.800> from<01:52:20.360> October<01:52:21.240> of<01:52:21.600> 24<01:52:22.880> where<01:52:23.160> I text thread from October of 24 where I text thread from October of 24 where I informed<01:52:24.280> the<01:52:24.400> then<01:52:24.760> chair<01:52:25.320> of<01:52:25.480> the<01:52:25.680> select informed the then chair of the select informed the then chair of the select board<01:52:27.080> um<01:52:27.480> of<01:52:27.800> the<01:52:28.960> of<01:52:29.200> the<01:52:29.520> MOU<01:52:30.480> and<01:52:31.000> I<01:52:31.080> said board um of the of the MOU and I said board um of the of the MOU and I said there’s<01:52:31.400> an<01:52:31.480> MOU<01:52:32.000> between<01:52:32.520> the<01:52:32.600> two<01:52:32.760> boards there’s an MOU between the two boards there’s an MOU between the two boards that<01:52:33.200> states<01:52:33.520> we<01:52:33.640> will<01:52:33.800> have<01:52:34.120> one.<01:52:34.600> Jason that states we will have one. Jason that states we will have one. Jason Silver<01:52:35.240> wrote<01:52:35.520> it. Silver wrote it. Silver wrote it. Um<01:52:37.360> Kyle<01:52:37.640> should<01:52:37.760> have<01:52:37.880> a<01:52:37.920> copy<01:52:38.360> of<01:52:38.480> it<01:52:38.640> and<01:52:38.760> she Um Kyle should have a copy of it and she Um Kyle should have a copy of it and she said<01:52:39.080> FinCom<01:52:39.520> and<01:52:39.640> school<01:52:40.000> committee.<01:52:40.320> I<01:52:40.400> said said FinCom and school committee. I said said FinCom and school committee. I said no,<01:52:40.720> select<01:52:41.200> board,<01:52:41.520> school<01:52:41.760> committee<01:52:42.120> along no, select board, school committee along no, select board, school committee along with<01:52:42.560> FinCom.<01:52:43.600> She<01:52:43.720> said<01:52:43.840> that's<01:52:44.040> not

1:52:44 with FinCom. She said that’s not with FinCom. She said that’s not Thursday’s<01:52:44.560> meeting,<01:52:44.760> that's<01:52:44.920> not Thursday’s meeting, that’s not Thursday’s meeting, that’s not Thursday’s<01:52:45.400> meeting. Thursday’s meeting. Thursday’s meeting. Um Um Um And<01:52:49.560> it<01:52:49.760> she<01:52:49.920> then<01:52:50.480> this<01:52:50.680> is<01:52:50.800> where<01:52:51.360> you<01:52:51.560> need And it she then this is where you need And it she then this is where you need to<01:52:51.800> be<01:52:51.920> concerned.<01:52:52.600> An<01:52:52.720> entirely<01:52:53.280> different to be concerned. An entirely different to be concerned. An entirely different board<01:52:53.920> is<01:52:54.000> not<01:52:54.360> bound<01:52:55.000> to<01:52:55.240> this<01:52:55.440> is<01:52:55.800> the<01:52:56.400> the board is not bound to this is the the board is not bound to this is the the select<01:52:56.920> board<01:52:57.120> members'<01:52:57.800> comments.<01:52:58.520> An select board members’ comments. An select board members’ comments. An entirely<01:52:59.240> different<01:52:59.600> board<01:52:59.920> is<01:53:00.040> not<01:53:00.400> bound<01:53:00.880> to entirely different board is not bound to entirely different board is not bound to any<01:53:01.320> MOU<01:53:02.320> from<01:53:02.560> years<01:53:02.920> past,<01:53:03.600> but<01:53:03.720> I<01:53:03.760> don't any MOU from years past, but I don’t any MOU from years past, but I don’t have<01:53:04.080> a<01:53:04.120> problem<01:53:04.600> or<01:53:04.720> reason<01:53:05.040> not<01:53:05.320> to.<01:53:05.680> I<01:53:05.800> then have a problem or reason not to. I then have a problem or reason not to. I then send<01:53:06.240> the<01:53:06.320> MOU.<01:53:07.400> This<01:53:07.680> is<01:53:07.800> what<01:53:08.520> um<01:53:08.720> I<01:53:08.840> could send the MOU. This is what um I could send the MOU. This is what um I could pull<01:53:09.280> up<01:53:09.480> from<01:53:09.640> the<01:53:09.760> email.<01:53:10.360> It's<01:53:10.520> signed<01:53:10.800> by pull up from the email. It’s signed by pull up from the email. It’s signed by joint<01:53:11.240> meeting.<01:53:11.720> I<01:53:11.800> tell<01:53:12.000> her<01:53:12.080> the<01:53:12.200> dates<01:53:12.520> and joint meeting. I tell her the dates and joint meeting. I tell her the dates and to<01:53:12.760> ask<01:53:13.040> Kyle<01:53:13.320> for<01:53:13.640> it.<01:53:14.160> That<01:53:14.400> Lucy<01:53:14.680> needs<01:53:14.880> to to ask Kyle for it. That Lucy needs to to ask Kyle for it. That Lucy needs to draft<01:53:15.320> it.<01:53:15.920> I<01:53:16.000> totally<01:53:16.360> agree<01:53:16.680> with<01:53:16.840> the draft it. I totally agree with the draft it. I totally agree with the intent<01:53:17.400> and<01:53:17.520> we<01:53:17.600> should<01:53:17.800> absolutely,<01:53:18.440> but<01:53:18.600> I'm intent and we should absolutely, but I’m intent and we should absolutely, but I’m just<01:53:19.000> saying<01:53:19.480> we<01:53:19.720> don't<01:53:20.200> have<01:53:20.520> to. just saying we don’t have to. just saying we don’t have to. Those<01:53:21.920> are<01:53:22.160> This<01:53:22.400> is<01:53:22.560> the<01:53:22.840> the<01:53:22.960> select<01:53:23.320> board. Those are This is the the select board. Those are This is the the select board. Those<01:53:24.320> are<01:53:24.440> basically<01:53:25.080> vision<01:53:25.480> statements Those are basically vision statements Those are basically vision statements and<01:53:26.160> when<01:53:26.280> a<01:53:26.360> board<01:53:26.800> entirely<01:53:27.360> turns<01:53:27.680> over, and when a board entirely turns over, and when a board entirely turns over, visions<01:53:28.480> can<01:53:28.640> change.<01:53:29.200> Just<01:53:29.440> making<01:53:29.720> a

1:53:29 visions can change. Just making a visions can change. Just making a technical<01:53:30.280> point.<01:53:30.960> So,<01:53:31.200> while<01:53:31.440> you're<01:53:31.560> saying technical point. So, while you’re saying technical point. So, while you’re saying your<01:53:32.000> safeguard<01:53:32.680> is<01:53:32.800> going<01:53:33.080> to<01:53:33.160> be<01:53:33.320> an<01:53:33.480> MOU,<01:53:34.160> it your safeguard is going to be an MOU, it your safeguard is going to be an MOU, it didn’t<01:53:34.920> save<01:53:35.160> us<01:53:35.360> here,<01:53:35.680> now<01:53:35.960> did<01:53:36.200> it?<01:53:36.880> I<01:53:37.200> I didn’t save us here, now did it? I I didn’t save us here, now did it? I I been<01:53:38.040> requesting<01:53:38.640> that<01:53:38.800> we<01:53:38.920> still<01:53:39.160> have<01:53:39.320> these been requesting that we still have these been requesting that we still have these meetings,<01:53:39.800> which<01:53:39.960> we've<01:53:40.160> had<01:53:40.440> up<01:53:40.640> until<01:53:40.880> that meetings, which we’ve had up until that meetings, which we’ve had up until that point.<01:53:41.560> The<01:53:41.680> reps<01:53:41.960> at<01:53:42.080> those<01:53:42.280> meetings<01:53:42.720> have point. The reps at those meetings have point. The reps at those meetings have changed.<01:53:43.440> Typically<01:53:43.840> on<01:53:43.920> the<01:53:44.000> select<01:53:44.280> board changed. Typically on the select board changed. Typically on the select board side,<01:53:45.000> Moses<01:53:45.360> had<01:53:45.520> been<01:53:45.720> the<01:53:45.880> rep.<01:53:46.760> Um<01:53:47.520> and side, Moses had been the rep. Um and side, Moses had been the rep. Um and then<01:53:47.960> they<01:53:48.160> faulted.<01:53:49.080> And<01:53:49.800> and<01:53:50.600> so,<01:53:51.080> if<01:53:51.240> you're then they faulted. And and so, if you’re then they faulted. And and so, if you’re pinning<01:53:51.920> your<01:53:52.160> hat<01:53:52.520> on<01:53:53.520> this<01:53:53.840> flip-flopping pinning your hat on this flip-flopping pinning your hat on this flip-flopping on<01:53:54.720> the<01:53:54.840> procedure<01:53:55.440> is<01:53:55.560> going<01:53:55.720> to<01:53:55.800> be on the procedure is going to be on the procedure is going to be safeguarded<01:53:56.480> by<01:53:56.640> an<01:53:56.760> MOU,<01:53:57.200> you<01:53:57.400> had<01:53:57.760> the<01:53:57.840> MOU. safeguarded by an MOU, you had the MOU. safeguarded by an MOU, you had the MOU. It<01:53:58.600> exists.<01:53:59.480> You<01:53:59.600> should<01:53:59.760> be<01:53:59.880> educating It exists. You should be educating It exists. You should be educating yourselves yourselves yourselves when<01:54:01.880> you<01:54:01.960> get<01:54:02.080> on<01:54:02.200> a<01:54:02.240> board<01:54:02.640> about<01:54:02.920> the<01:54:03.000> MOUs when you get on a board about the MOUs when you get on a board about the MOUs in<01:54:03.840> place<01:54:04.440> historically.<01:54:05.160> Many<01:54:05.480> of<01:54:05.600> you<01:54:05.720> were in place historically. Many of you were in place historically. Many of you were around<01:54:06.200> attending<01:54:06.560> these<01:54:06.760> meetings<01:54:07.640> and<01:54:07.800> it's around attending these meetings and it’s around attending these meetings and it’s not<01:54:09.000> it's<01:54:09.160> not<01:54:09.360> okay<01:54:09.840> to<01:54:10.400> to<01:54:10.520> put<01:54:10.680> out<01:54:10.840> to<01:54:10.920> the not it’s not okay to to put out to the not it’s not okay to to put out to the public,<01:54:11.320> "Oh,<01:54:11.400> we're<01:54:11.520> going<01:54:11.640> to<01:54:11.720> put<01:54:11.880> this<01:54:12.040> on public, “Oh, we’re going to put this on public, “Oh, we’re going to put this on paper.”<01:54:12.400> It's<01:54:12.760> on<01:54:12.880> the<01:54:13.000> paper.<01:54:13.480> It<01:54:13.640> exists<01:54:14.240> and paper.” It’s on the paper. It exists and paper.” It’s on the paper. It exists and you’re<01:54:14.480> not<01:54:14.720> adhering<01:54:15.160> to<01:54:15.400> it.<01:54:16.080> And

1:54:17 you’re not adhering to it. And you’re not adhering to it. And and<01:54:17.560> to<01:54:17.680> say<01:54:17.920> that's<01:54:18.240> going<01:54:18.360> to<01:54:18.440> be<01:54:18.480> the and to say that’s going to be the and to say that’s going to be the safeguard<01:54:19.160> that's<01:54:19.320> going<01:54:19.440> to<01:54:19.560> keep<01:54:19.800> the safeguard that’s going to keep the safeguard that’s going to keep the schools<01:54:20.400> next<01:54:20.720> year<01:54:20.920> from<01:54:21.120> flip-flopping<01:54:21.720> to schools next year from flip-flopping to schools next year from flip-flopping to another<01:54:22.200> area<01:54:22.600> or<01:54:22.720> being<01:54:22.960> asked<01:54:23.240> to<01:54:23.320> flip-flop another area or being asked to flip-flop another area or being asked to flip-flop again,<01:54:24.560> so<01:54:24.680> that<01:54:24.880> we're<01:54:25.120> always<01:54:25.560> the<01:54:25.680> one<01:54:26.120> that again, so that we’re always the one that again, so that we’re always the one that is<01:54:26.760> on<01:54:26.880> the is on the is on the wrong<01:54:28.120> end<01:54:28.400> of<01:54:28.560> whatever<01:54:29.040> matrix<01:54:29.600> we're wrong end of whatever matrix we’re wrong end of whatever matrix we’re using,<01:54:30.840> like<01:54:31.360> that's<01:54:31.640> just<01:54:31.880> laughable.

1:54:42 Okay, Okay, we’ll<01:54:42.360> close.<01:54:42.880> Anyone<01:54:43.240> online? we’ll close. Anyone online? we’ll close. Anyone online? No. No. No. No<01:54:45.000> hands<01:54:45.240> are<01:54:45.360> up.<01:54:45.880> I<01:54:46.000> will<01:54:46.160> close<01:54:46.480> public No hands are up. I will close public No hands are up. I will close public comment.<01:54:47.120> Thank<01:54:47.400> you. comment. Thank you. comment. Thank you. Looking<01:54:49.720> for<01:54:49.840> a<01:54:49.880> motion<01:54:50.160> to<01:54:50.280> adjourn. Looking for a motion to adjourn. Looking for a motion to adjourn. I<01:54:51.480> make<01:54:51.600> a<01:54:51.640> motion<01:54:52.040> to<01:54:52.160> adjourn. I make a motion to adjourn. I make a motion to adjourn. I’ll<01:54:53.320> second. I’ll second. I’ll second. All<01:54:55.160> right.<01:54:55.240> Motion<01:54:55.680> made<01:54:55.960> by<01:54:56.320> Moses<01:54:56.800> and All right. Motion made by Moses and All right. Motion made by Moses and seconded<01:54:57.240> by<01:54:57.480> Henry. seconded by Henry. seconded by Henry. Um<01:54:59.280> I<01:54:59.360> think<01:54:59.640> we<01:54:59.760> need<01:55:00.000> to<01:55:00.720> uh Um I think we need to uh Um I think we need to uh roll<01:55:01.600> call<01:55:01.840> this,<01:55:02.120> Jen<01:55:03.040> or<01:55:03.520> Gent?<01:55:04.360> Um roll call this, Jen or Gent? Um roll call this, Jen or Gent? Um in<01:55:05.320> favor. in favor. in favor. Henry?<01:55:07.760> In<01:55:07.840> favor.<01:55:08.360> Melissa?<01:55:09.040> In<01:55:09.080> favor. Henry? In favor. Melissa? In favor. Henry? In favor. Melissa? In favor. Kate?<01:55:10.400> In<01:55:10.520> favor. Kate? In favor. Kate? In favor. Al<01:55:11.840> in<01:55:12.000> favor.<01:55:12.320> The<01:55:12.400> motion<01:55:12.760> passes<01:55:13.200> 5-0. Al in favor. The motion passes 5-0. Al in favor. The motion passes 5-0. Thank<01:55:14.040> you<01:55:14.120> everyone. Thank you everyone. Thank you everyone. The<01:55:15.480> meeting<01:55:15.760> is<01:55:15.880> adjourned.<01:55:16.520> Also,<01:55:16.920> Frank, The meeting is adjourned. Also, Frank, The meeting is adjourned. Also, Frank, can<01:55:17.320> you<01:55:17.360> make<01:55:17.520> sure<01:55:17.600> that's<01:55:17.880> off?

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