Select Board: December 13, 2023

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0:00 Ready, unmute. Perfect. We are at the witching hour. It is a little bit past seven o’clock. We going to call this meeting to order.

0:13 Thank you. All right. We are in session. Uh, we have a long agenda tonight, and I think the first thing we’re gonna do is start out with the finance committee. We have three candidates, thankfully, who, uh, who are here, uh, tonight. And, uh, we’re gonna go through our typical process, which is, uh, interview each of the candidates, and then take a poll vote for, uh, for the, for the candidate that we Mm-Hmm. Ultimately select. Um, I do wanna announce that this meeting is recorded via Zoom. Uh, before we start, uh, we have three applicants, Lindsey Duby, Colin Gypsy, and Roger Pedi.

0:58 And, uh, I think what we’d like to do, what we typically do is we go by alphabetical order. So the first one to appear will be Lindsay Mm-Hmm. Okay. And, uh, we would ask the other, uh, candidates to, to step outside if you could. And, uh, Thatcher, I don’t know if you want to, uh, show them, show them to your, to your office, and then we’ll call you in as you, as we complete the interviews.

1:26 Uh, Lindsay, would you like to, uh, approach, please make, come, come forward. Oh, right to the, yeah. No, no. Right, right. Have a seat. Yeah. Much more comfortable. No, make yourself comfortable and you can ring the microphone to you. Yeah. Thank you very much for coming. We Really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Oh, It’s really good. Thanks for volunteering. Really. Great. Absolutely. Um, now what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna ask the same questions of all the, uh, candidates. So, uh, we’re gonna each ask one question and, uh, and I’m gonna start by asking you, uh, to tell us a little bit about your background more broadly and how that prepares you for this role in town government, uh, with emphasis on your financial and budgeting perspective that’ll help the town run within the confines of its budget. Sure,

2:11 Sure. Um, well, I have been a lifelong marble header, born and raised here, educated through the school system, uh, even went to, uh, Salem State University, uh, for my degree in finance. And I started out very early on in, um, at Morgan Stanley, and then moved into the banking world. And now I reside at Eagle Bank, uh, where I’m a senior vice president in charge of the commercial, uh, credit division and the credit group. Um, my job, uh, in my job, I do a lot of risk management. I do a lot of, um, budgeting. I’m very familiar with, um, municipalities. Um, I’ve worked at, um, where we worked

2:59 with, um, municipalities and funding and different of financing. And, um, when I saw that there was a position on the finance committee, um, I thought it was my time to give back to this town a little bit, uh, with, uh, my experience and, uh, see what I could do to, um, help the town, especially, uh, in this environment that, um, I know has been challenging. Um, with the, uh, I saw the 2024 budget, I saw the operating deficit. Um, and I know that the town did not pass override, uh, to finance it. I know that we, uh, the finance committee’s working with the school department, um, uh, for various reasons there.

3:44 So I think it’s, uh, made sense at this time for me to, to volunteer and step up. Alright. Thank you very much. Uh, Alexa, if you would. Yeah, thank you. Um, so, uh, I, you know, you mentioned this a little bit, but just wanted to ask a, uh, kind of a little more along the lines of, um, how would you describe for what, you know, it sounds like, you know, you said you saw the budget deficit, if you reviewed the, you know, the current finance report, the scope of the, you know, kinda the work of the finance committee and just really the experience with budgeting, forecasting, you know, within the confines of prop two and a half and how that applies to what our, we know what our limitations Are here. Well, that’s the challenge. Um, the, I saw the expenses. I know, uh, not only as Marblehead is town,

4:32 but you know, working, um, at a bank where I am, we we’re also facing the sorts of challenges, um, in that environment with inflation and everything else. So, um, I work with companies to finance them, um, and listen to their challenges and, and come up with ways of making, uh, things work, um, uh, sometimes, you know, creative ways, um, outside the box ways. So, um, I thought that at, maybe at this time, that would be good for me to kind of step in here. Yeah. Um, and see what I could do to, to help. Great. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Uh, finance committee members are assigned to specific,

5:19 you know, town departments as liaisons, and are there any areas of town government, you know, whether it’s programs or departments, uh, that you have a greater interest in than others? And, and if you do, can you tell us what they are and, uh, and why you’re interested In that area? Um, uh, specifically I do in part of my job is, um, construction. We, we do a lot of construction. We lend to a lot of builders, so I’m very familiar with, um, construction budgets, um, running construction projects. Um, and I, so I would say one of the things I’m, um, concerned with is, uh, you know, capital expenditures, um, infrastructure, uh, those things I’d be,

6:05 I think would at least I have the experience with. Awesome. Thank you. Great. Jim. Um, sometimes the finance committee has to make very tough choices, which may not be popular. Are you prepared to articulate and make those types of choices? And can you point to an example where you’ve done this before? Um, yeah. Yes. I don’t have a problem with that. Um, based on what I do, um, I, I do have to say no, um, a lot in my job, um, when, um, you know, you know, borrowers come to me and they’re looking to fund, uh, construction project that they think is fabulous and great,

6:51 and it just, um, you know, you run the numbers and it doesn’t work. Sadly, um, everyone, um, sheds a tear for a minute there, but it’s just something that has to be done. Unfortunately, numbers don’t lie. Um, they tell the truth. So, uh, I’m very familiar with the, uh, unpopular opinion for sure. Um, as an exa that’s probably my day-to-day job. So I, I, for an example, I would say I do that on a regular basis. Great. Thank you. Welcome. Alright, Lindsey, thank you very much. We really appreciate it and appreciate you a stepping up and b going through this, uh, little, little gauntlet here, but it’s a pleasure to get to, to know you.

7:38 You did, you did great. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank You.

7:45 Okay. That’s gonna get the next candidate and you Can stay. Yes, yes. Feel free to stay. Yes.

7:54 Uh, or you can leave if you want, but Don’t feel you have to.

8:01 Now she’s torn. Okay. So Colin is next.

8:22 Hey Colin, how are you? Well, thanks. Have a, have a seat. Have a seat. And welcome to you. Thank you. So, as I’ve explained to the previous candidates, we’re gonna ask the same questions of all of you. Okay. And, uh, I’m gonna start, uh, by asking you, um, to tell us a little bit about your background, um, and, and your experience and how it prepares you for this, uh, role in town government, which, which is a very important role. Sure. Uh, with the emphasis on your financial and budgeting experience, uh, you, which will, you know, specifically help the town run, uh, within its Budget. Sure. Um, I’ll jump into relevant professional experience, I guess immediately. Um, I started my professional career really in 2008, 2009. Um, started with enterprise, run a car out in California.

9:10 Rapidly left that industry to what’s a little bit more relevant, which was commercial property management with, um, with the large Furman, uh, at first the suburbs of, of Massachusetts out west and then into, uh, into downtown. Um, and if you’re familiar with commercial property management, um, a a big part of that, um, of that industry is, is budgeting for your property, uh, and then sticking to that budget as you, as you move forward through the, through the year in your operations. Um, so with CBRE specifically as it started for a small portfolio of suburban office, I was really, um, part of a junior team supporting a senior team in preparing budgets and then, uh, sticking to them throughout the year.

9:57 As I progressed with CBRE, I moved into, uh, an urban, uh, urban location and really became responsible for, um, complete preparation of an annual budget for a high rise, uh, uh, downtown building connected to a historic building, uh, with an operating expense budget of over $3 million a year. Uh, which I’m sure, um, relative to an entire town is pretty small, but I think the, um, the fundamentals are, are likely somewhat similar. Um, following commercial property management, I went back to school, uh, for a business degree. Um, and I would say the coursework provided certainly some, uh, some relevant experience to a, a finance budgeting role. I, I did, um, minor in finance

10:45 and while I was there, I was actually a teaching assistant for my accounting professor, which was a big one for me. I nearly failed out of accounting in my undergrad. Um, so, uh, I think that there is relevant educational experience as well following, uh, the business degree moved into, um, again, within commercial real estate, but an asset management role, um, which I would say is similar to property management, but really is a position that oversees the property managers putting together the, um, putting together, again, I’ll focus on the budget, uh, but an asset manager’s job is really developing and implementing a business plan for, uh, a piece of commercial property. Uh, and that’s what I did in that role and, and worked hand in hand with the property management team,

11:30 um, in the budgeting process and in the operations process and leasing and all of it. Um, again, all within commercial real estate moved into an acquisitions role, uh, which is really less about budgeting, more about underwriting, uh, acquisition targets and, and hopefully acquiring some we did at the company I worked for in that capacity. Um, I was there for about a year and a half, moved into, uh, back into an asset management role. So again, a little bit closer to the operations and budget side of commercial real estate. Um, that was on a very large portfolio of, of East coast office real estate. So, uh, worked on budgeting, acquisitions, dispositions, um, leasing, all that sort of stuff for a portfolio

12:16 of about 28 million square feet. Um, I was with, uh, it’s equity office properties. I was with equity office for about three years, moved to Atlanta for my wife’s job, uh, found a role in development. Um, so again, my, my role in development side was primarily underwriting a, a large scale acquisition that we had. It was a, um, two phase mixed use, mul, multifamily office, retail, uh, property. Um, got that off the ground and I wanted to go out on my own. I’ve been, uh, working in my own business with two business partners since. And I incorporate everything that I just described on, on pretty much a daily basis, uh, with my partners in our business. We own, uh, commercial real estate in Massachusetts, north and South Carolina. Uh, and we are the operating half of the sort of investment,

13:05 um, side of that business. So budgets, operations, leasing, um, all of the above. Alright. Thank you Very much. And now, yeah, thank You. Thank you. Yeah, go ahead. If you’d like to. Sure. Um, yeah, just wanted to know how would, in your own words, like how would you describe the role of the finance committee in town government in, you know, just also if you can speak to in line with the budgeting and the forecasting process that, you know, that’s involved with the finance committee and just obviously in line with proposition two and a half and how that all comes together with your understanding. Sure. So, um, based on my very, very, uh, um, uh, early understanding of the role in talking really with Alec, uh,

13:51 it sounds like there’s a lot of listening. Um, so I think that’s one of the things about this role that appeals to me is that it’s working with, uh, multiple departments within the town, um, to prepare and present a balanced budget. Um, you know, I, as much as I might hope to have a little bit more input in, in how money is actually spent, I don’t think that’s part of, um, what the finance committee role entails. Um, so I think, you know, having the ability to, to, to help with my background in, in putting together a budget and making sure, um, making sure it’s balanced, uh, and executable is, is all relevant

14:38 and good experience toward that role. Um, proposition two and a half, I, I, so I apologize. I’m less familiar. I’m new to town. Um, although I think, is that a Massachusetts proposition? Two and a half, yeah. Okay. Um, so proposition two and a half is, is that a, um, a, a basically a temporary increase in funds? Or how does that just Like the constraint that we’re under regards to like taxation and just, you know, something that’s unique. Okay. And so, uh, was that what was voted on and, and did not pass, uh, a couple of months ago? Was the, was the two and a half million dollar override or is that something separate? So kind of a separate principle. You know, we, the, we did have a town override that was turned down.

15:23 Okay. But, you know, but part of the, the constraints of what, you know, where we end up at that process. Okay. Yeah. And so that’s, you know, kind of how we pull the whole thing together to say what, you know, what are our limitations and what these are our expenses is what we’d like to do, and then how do we meet in the middle to figure out what we can do, so. Okay. And so my understanding, I guess, is that there’s, um, I, I call it a, a temporarily reduced budget until such time as, uh, as a more complete budget can be, so We can get the Constructed arrived at. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Alright. And finance committee members are assigned to specific town committees as a liaison and, you know, are there any interested, are there any areas in town government, you know, programs

16:10 or department, uh, that you have a greater interest in than others? And if you do, if you could tell us a little bit what they are and why they might interest you. Sure. The, the easy one is education. Um, I have a, uh, two-year-old son. I’ve watched a little bit, well, this isn’t exactly related to the finance committee, but I have watched, um, the back and forth in town, uh, particularly with, um, with higher administration, uh, superintendent. Um, and so I think moving forward, just that’s a, that’s a particular interest of mine is, is working with the education department to make sure that the budget is, is complete. And, um, not that I’ll have a say in, in whether an override is appropriate or not,

16:56 but, um, just putting a best foot forward in, in presenting a budget that’s comprehensive and allows our school systems to operate the way that they need to. Thank you. Uh, thank you again for volunteering. Sure. Uh, sometime the finance, sometimes the finance committee has to make tough choices, which may not be popular. Are you prepared to articulate and make those types of choices? And can you point to an example where you’ve had to do this before? Yeah, sure. I mean, we, yes. Um, conflict is okay and I think sometimes necessary. Um, you know, we have attention with our, for, in my business, uh, we have a tension with our, our limited partners sometimes where, uh,

17:45 we may feel, for example, that a sale of a property is in the best interest of all involved. Our limited partners disagree with us. And, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a discussion. Um, and I think that’s probably an important word in response to your question is discussion. Um, and the better that I think the finance committee, this role could help aid in discussion and, and everybody involved gain a better understanding, I think is probably an, an important part of, of what’s involved here. Um, so I mean, I can tell you specific ugly, uh, ugly examples of, of battles we’ve had on, you know, with prospective tenants, with limited partners. Not so ugly, but sometimes contentious. Um, but it’s comfortable.

18:32 Thank you. Yeah. Alright, Colin, this brings our interviews to a close. I, I wanna thank you very much for standing up and going through this process. It’s not, not easy. Absolutely everybody, it takes courage for everybody to do it. So we really appreciate it. Thank you for the time. Thank you for having me. Thank You. Right. Thank you. Nice to Meet you to likewise. Thank you. And welcome Ms. Stay. Yeah. You Sorry for the, sorry for the No, the no suit. No, my apologies. Look Great. Thanks. Alright. We have, uh, Roger Pellicani next.

19:07 The cough. Still The cough.

19:16 Roger. Good evening. Welcome. Thank you have, have a seat. We really appreciate you coming here, and as, as we mentioned to the other candidates, we’re asking the same questions of, of all three of you. Sure. And, uh, we appreciate you, uh, you coming out tonight. My pleasure. Very much. And I’m gonna start by asking you, uh, to tell us a little bit about your background. We, for all the candidates we’ve seen, obviously the resumes and have a, have a sense. But in your own words, you know, what, what is it about your experience and background that prepares you for this role in town government, uh, with emphasis on your financial and budgeting perspective that will help the town run within its within its budget? Okay. Well, uh, I’ve been fin been in financial services for about 30 years, all by adult, uh, professional life. Although I started, uh, with a background in architecture

20:03 and real estate development, uh, which led me into the financial side of, uh, of building and and development. Uh, I then, uh, transferred to American Express, uh, which was, uh, a very big change in my life. And I had a role, uh, directly supporting the chairman and CEO there. So I had my first experience really where I’m reviewing enterprise-wide budgets of the hundreds of millions of dollars and strategic investment group, uh, funding of, you know, over a hundred million dollars a year. Uh, and working with all the different departments across a very large global corporation, uh, in putting together the annual budget for the year, uh, the strategic investment plan, and all the ups and downs that go with that, uh, on top of which having the, uh, requiring the rigor

20:50 and the discipline of having, uh, investors who are pretty, uh, interested in what the budget looks like and what growth is gonna look like for shareholders. So it was a very commercial focus. And then I had other various, uh, uh, positions there. I was head of financial institution partnerships, uh, launching a new business. Uh, I then moved to London where I oversaw the, uh, the merchant business for American Express across Europe and, uh, middle East and Asia. So, not Asia Europe, but EMEA. Um, so I had revenue responsibility for over a billion dollars of 500 major clients, you know, big airlines, hotels, retailers. Uh, and I managed a group of 200 people, uh, in that role.

21:35 Um, so again, a lot of, you know, management oversight, uh, and, uh, a pretty big budget and, uh, uh, a lot of detail and a lot of focus on the financial side of things, of which since I had p and l responsibility for, uh, for Europe, uh, I currently, when we moved back from London, um, uh, I’ve been a consultant in the payments world. So I continue to do consulting, uh, for a variety of clients, including, you know, big ones like Visa, smaller private equity firms, some big merchants that are involved in their, uh, very complex, uh, payments world. So a pretty wide and varied financial background. Um, and in addition, just locally here in Marblehead for the last decade, I have been the, uh, sort of treasurer

22:22 and financial director for the Marblehead Rowing Club, uh, often known better as rock and row of which do our banking at this gentleman’s bank across the, uh, the road so that at a much more micro level, you know, where you have a budget of $50,000 a year. But again, we work to a very fine tolerance to make sure that we make that budget every year. And the club has grown from, you know, 15 members a decade ago to 70 members today. And we’ve, uh, under my tutelage, if you will, we’ve, you know, built up a reserve fund of $25,000, which was unheard of, you know, 10 years ago. It’s not a big amount of money, I get it, but to us that’s a lot of money. Um, so very involved in the community that way. And, uh, you know, this is our home

23:07 and, uh, I wanna help it out as best I can. Thank you very much, Roger. Thank you. Yeah, pleasure. Thanks for being here tonight. Yep. Sure. Uh, so thanks for sharing your history. How would you describe the, kinda the role and work of the finance committee here, of what you know so far in town government? You know, just in regards to the budgeting and the forecasting process, and, you know, obviously we have the constraints of prop two and a half Sure. And just, you know, what that looks like for municipal government. Sure. Um, I mean, my understanding is that it’s a, uh, an advisory role, obviously, but a very important advisory role. Um, and my understanding is that the members all are, you know, very adept in the financial world,

23:54 and that’s, uh, an important facet of making sure that, uh, budgets are developed properly. As you said, uh, you know, I understand the restrictions that are, you know, working on with the proposition two and a half. Um, and I know, you know, there’ve been some other, you know, financial issues with the overrides and all the things. So I, I understand it’s a advisory role, but also a very detailed one. It’s one that’s gonna involve a lot of, you know, digging through the numbers and understanding things very clearly and building relationships with the other, uh, departments, uh, and the heads to earn their trust and make sure that, uh, you’re a trusted advisor. I mean, that’s kind of what I have to do as a consultant in the consulting world. Um, you’re kind of living on your reputation and your trust

24:40 and, uh, the ability to obviously deliver results. Um, but my understanding again is that, uh, you know, the finance committee really helps provide that oversight and sort of the glue and, and the work that pulls it all together for the town. Great. Thank you, sir. Thanks for being here tonight. Good evening. Uh, finance committee members are assigned to specific town departments, you know, as liaisons. Are there any interests, any town departments have interest to you? And if there are, you know, can you tell, explain maybe why and, Well, I guess I would say two things. One, um, on the school side, simply because I have three boys, all of which are in Marblehead public schools. Uh, one who is biting his hands off at the moment, waiting for early decision college stuff tomorrow night.

25:26 So it’s a, a little bit of a stressful time on the home front. I have one of those too. Yeah. Um, but, uh, so he’s a senior. I also have a sophomore and I have a, uh, a young son who’s in the, uh, a disabled son who’s in the special ed program at, uh, at Village. So I have a, you know, a strong interest in making sure that the school is, uh, well funded and operating the best way it can. Uh, and so that’s an area where I have clearly some, uh, you know, some strong interest. I would say. The other side, again, just given my background, if there are issues related to, uh, you know, real estate and zoning and architecture and design, um, I have a very strong background in that, although it’s not been my recent work area, but again, the level, uh, you know, it was the basis

26:12 of my education in the first, you know, basically 10 years of my career. So I still have a very strong interest in architecture and design and development. So those are areas and, and frankly, with the issues of, um, I know with the school, thinking about what to do with coffin, um, well, I know that the decision has been made, but you know, the issues around, uh, you know, the new Massachusetts state law for, you know, requiring denser housing and affordable housing in places that are serviced by the MBTA. So I know there’s some issues there with zoning and so forth. So if I could ever be of help in those areas, that’s an area I have strong interest in as well. Thank you. Sure. Jim, Roger, thank you for volunteering. Sure. Uh, sometime the finance committee has

26:59 to make tough choices, which may not be popular. Are you prepared to articulate and to make those types of choices? And can you point to an example where you’ve had to do this before? Boy, let me count the ways. Um, yes, I’ve had to do it, uh, many, many times. Uh, both, uh, I’m trying to think of a good example at, at American Express. Um, I would tell you, uh, having to make some very tough financial decisions around a major deal we were working on with British Airways. So this was a deal where if they, our relationship with British Airways was broken and terrible and falling apart and in danger of danger, the entire Amex business around the world with airlines,

27:47 which are our biggest client category. Um, and I had to come up with a way to, I was personally responsible. That was my biggest client, and I was responsible for it since they’re based in the uk. Um, and I, you know, was under huge amount of pressure to figure out how to do that. And we, and I did it by structuring a deal that had never been done before at American Express that involved bringing all the different business units on board, uh, to do something in a way that made the overall economics of that deal very profitable for American Express, even though it was not as profitable for my own business, which was the merchant business. Um, and that was a tough call because I had, you know, people, I report

28:32 through the merchant business and people are looking at me and looking at my p and l and I made that very tough decision that that was the way to do it, and probably the only way to do it. Um, so that’s, uh, that’s one example from that in a, in another case, at a more micro level, I mean, at rock and roll, um, you know, our resources are pretty limited. And, uh, we had to make a decision, uh, very recently whether we were going to, uh, buy new boats. ‘cause we have some boats that need to be replaced or buy a trailer. Uh, and there’s equal groups of people in the club that wanna do one because boats are boats and you need boats to have a rowing club. But in order to have trips that we wanna take, you need a functioning efficient trailer to do that. And our trailer is pretty old and beat up

29:18 and not very safe on the highway and so forth. And so, uh, working with the president, I, you know, made a strong recommendation that it’s time for us to buy a trailer upwards are good enough. That made some people very unhappy. ‘cause they, you know, again, the, the basis of the club is to have boats available for them to row, but so that we can have these adventure rows outside of Marblehead, uh, to go to New Hampshire, go to Maine, go to Pennsylvania, uh, we needed to spend the money on that, this, this year that’s happening right now. So that’s an immediate, this fiscal year for us decision that, uh, that I had to make. Thank you, Jon. Thank you, Roger. This brings our questions to, uh, to an end. Okay. Uh, thank you very much. Thank you. And we really appreciate your stepping up and going through this process. My pleasure. Thank you very much. Thank you. You’re, you’re, you’re free to please stay. Okay. Uh, we’re

30:04 Gonna Take, we’re gonna finish up here. God, again, we’re, we’re so spoiled. We’re so spoiled for, for choice. God. Uh, what I’d like to do is, uh, make a motion to place all the names into nomination before we do any deliberation. Move second. A second. Okay. Um, Thatcher, perhaps you could, uh, What’s that? All in favor? All those in favor? Alright. So fine. And then I guess we do that before the poll Vote. Yeah. As we usually do. We’ll, we’ll do by roll call by name. You give the name of the candidate that you wish to choose. Mm-Hmm. Um, if there’s a tie amongst the candidates, the, we drop the lowest vote getter,

30:50 and then we’ll do another round to break the tie. Um, same process as we straight Force. It’s a process we, we have used, uh, Since we’re getting good at this. Since since the dawn of time. Yes. Or at least 200 Some years. So we can’t take ‘em all like the measure of leather, unfortunately. You have one vacancy. So you, uh, to your question, you’ll have to say no to two candidates.

31:16 Well, on, on that subject, I want, I do wanna say for those that Excellent. That don’t get, uh, nominated, we really appreciate your stepping up and we would really do anything to see your faces again. Uh, you know, if, uh, uh, in any other capacity in town, we are, we are a volunteer driven town, 100%. And, uh, you know, we, we, we would appreciate, we would appreciate that very much. Um, that’s a very tough Choice. Yeah. Uh, okay. Ready? We’re ready. I’ll start here. Mr. Nye. Oh, Um, Uh, Lindsey Duby.

31:55 Okay. Ms. Singer Lindsey Duby. Mr. Murray. Lindsey Duby. Mr. Grader. Uh, Lindsey Duby. It’s a tie. Yeah. All four for one. All right. I think that is, uh, congratulations. Congratulations Lindsay. Uh, and, uh, and welcome. Uh, you will need to, uh, the, the term expires, uh, in June of 2026. Uh, and you’ll have to go to the clerk’s office next door to swear in before you can take your seat. Um, but, uh, thank you very much and thank you to those Thank you. Okay. You know, for you, for you coming tonight,

32:40 we really appreciate it. So we don’t have no more, more Positions. Yeah. Okay. Thank You. Well, that brings that part of our agenda to a close. Uh, next on our agenda is Council on Aging and a request for, uh, renovations. Ali, if you would, if you would come on up. We’ll, We have a, um, I think we missed licensing. Give two, But that’s okay. We can, we can take it out. Water. Okay. Yeah, no, go ahead. Have a seat. Good evening. Thank you for having me. Sure. Um, I wanna let all of you know, though, I have, um, Christine Van re Mortel, who’s president of the friends, Suzanne Gruel, who’s COA chair, and then Walter Jacobs, who’s the architect of this project

33:26 at Catalina, one of his employees. So as many of you, you know, the community center, we have a center room that was put on after the building was built. And, um, it has served its purpose. It’s about 26 years old. It’s not heated, it’s not air conditioned. And really, um, we need the space. Um, so we’ve looked at this for a while, um, back in 2018. Some of you remember when we, um, started the endeavor of, um, changing our, our renovating our kitchen into a commercial kitchen. Um, this was part of the, the ultimate plan, and then Covid happened. So, um, now that we’re back, um, we’ve spent the last year with the friends as well as the board, and with Walter, um, coming up with this really nice design

34:13 of taking the lounge library that’s already in the building and making it one room, taking down the sunroom, but in the same footprint. Um, having it be one room that’s more of a diner type of cafe that we can have, um, you know, more social gatherings, um, to help reduce social isolation. Um, we have several support groups that we can have out there. We also have other programs out there, like our knitters. And, um, they wouldn’t be displaced. None of our, um, programs would be displaced, but it would give us the opportunity to have more, you know, a bigger area to serve our clients participants. Oh, great. Lisa. Now does this involve a bump out, uh, an increase in the, in the size of the room?

34:59 Or is it, are You, it’s about, um, Well, Walter, you can come up and explain that Walter’s much better at explaining the details, Walter, Then they can see it at home. Walter, do you want Walter, can we sit it right here? Right here. And then the people at home can see it as well? And we can too. That’s all right.

35:24 Do you need your other drawing? No, no. That’s an old one. Okay.

35:30 You okay?

35:40 Move closer to the table.

35:44 Sees a little, we have this, but then people at home can see it. Oh, There it’s, there you go. Alright. So the question was, is there a bump out, um, the existing, um, three season structure that’s not heated and kind of used a storage most of the winter Right. Is in this location, we are proposing to bump out about a foot more than that, just programmatically at work. And we have the sidewalk space in it. Um, but this is a rendering, so showing where that, um, greenhouse structure was, this is the new structure. What we’re doing is taking one of the existing rooms that’s inside and making a little service, um, station there. It doesn’t, it doesn’t compete with the kitchen. The kitchen has a lot of high tech Mm-Hmm. Stuff.

36:30 This has one hand washing sink. So things will be bought out from the kitchen, which we made about three or four years ago to this space so that people can buy muffins and coffee and things like that so that we start to utilize this space a little bit more. We designed this to take cues from kind of a diner. We didn’t wanna be too tongue in cheek, so it’s not metal with curves, but it has a couple curves and a couple lines. So that feels a little bit like a diner. Um, what will be done in this space is just some seating areas, some booth seating and some counter seating. And then there’s a little, you know, kind of knitting area over here. And that’s it in a nutshell. We specific question. It looks pretty, uh, pretty sunny. You got surround windows There. It’s great. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it can

37:16 Be new walls. ‘cause that doesn’t seem very insulated. Oh. The existing one is just metal. Almost like something you would buy in maybe Home Depot. No insulation. So this one will have insulation meet all current codes. Um, and you used all year round flip it. What’s that? Should flip it. Yeah. Um, show the other, oh, yeah. So here, Catalina did all of these renderings, but these are a couple of renderings. This shows the counter service space with some people around it. This shows the area where you outside, where you out in the bump out where you’d have the seating and things like that. And this is a blow up. So it shows the, um, service area. We went to the health department and checked with them. They’re on board. Um, and then this shows, again, the seating area.

38:02 We’ve designed it to be flexible. Mm-Hmm. So if the program evolves in different ways, we’ve thought about, okay, well, something different is happening in four or five years. It can evolve. And I think it’s a pretty sensible thing. We did the kitchen years ago, and I think that’s been very successful. Now we need a little bit more space for people. Yeah. And is the idea, I, I mean, I see the windows there is the idea, you know, that, that those will be functioning windows so you can, you know, turn it into like more of a spring space versus a winter space like this. Yeah. So we’ve made, um, the windows on the sides, awning windows, so you can get a breeze. Now the building’s conditioned, so we don’t wanna conflict with that, but if somebody’s out here and it’s a nice breezy day, we can open the side windows. We didn’t make these open

38:47 because if people were walking on the sidewalk, they might bump into ‘em. But we think having ‘em on each side, we’ll create a nice cross piece on the days that it can be done. Okay, great. Mm-Hmm. Awesome. It looks great. Really does. We’re excited about it. Good. Really great use of existing space. And one of the things I’m most happy about is, um, you know, the kitchen, you know, it didn’t have that, the usership of that kitchen since it was put in, has increased probably by 10 times. Right. When we, um, our original thought in 2018 is we only had about 20 people come for lunch three times a week, and maybe 80 once a month for a special event. Now with the new kitchen when we opened, we have 125 that come every Tuesday for lunch.

39:33 And it’s like a small wedding every week. And, um, and it’s, it’s a lot of fun. People enjoy it. Um, and this gives us the flexibility to have some other items as well. Um, other socialization after programming, um, or somebody, you know, we can do sandwiches, soups like that in the wintertime and, and really focus that around our programming a little more. So it all works together. That’s great. Okay. And you have the funding for this? Yes. The friends of the, um, council on Aging have agreed to fund it, as well as we also have some SHA funding that’s, um, been requested for it. And you said you did consult, I think you said this, that with the Board of Health, you guys went through all that? Yeah. Department. We met with them and mm-Hmm.

40:19 Reviewed everything and, okay. Very supportive. And, And we’ve talked to Becky, Becky’s aware of it. We’d like this to go to bid before she retires. Okay, great. I’m not gonna hide that. Thank you, Walter. Thank You. Yeah. So I would say normally for projects, it would run through our capital improvement plan for improvements to our facilities, given the, the funding sources, not through taxpayer sources, but through the fundraising they’ve done. Uh, it made no sense to run it through that program to, to move this project forward. And I’ve been, I’ve been hearing about this proposal since I’ve been here, so with the funding secured. Excellent. Um, there was no holding you back, Lisa. Congratulations.

41:04 And thanks for bringing it, uh, before us and before the town. Um, you know, so I think it’s important to get the word out and this, you know, your, your work’s outstanding and it makes it a real pleasure to, you know, to, to support it. Well, thank you. Yeah, thank you. It’s a lot of fun. And just to let you know, as nine years ago, I think tonight that I was voted, I was appointed in tonight, but whatever you call it to the coa, so Quickly just wanna, you’ve mentioned just a shout out to Doug Lang and his crew. Yes. Uh, Tuesday lunch is the best deal in town. It is the best deal in town. It’s a lot of fun. You have to come, especially when we have Halloween or another event. You do a great job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you. All right. With that, I’d like to entertain a motion to support the request from Lisa Huber, counsel on Aging

41:52 to move forward with, uh, Reno the renovation project at the counseling center as presented. So moved. Okay. All those in favor? Unanimous. Lisa, thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, look forward to seeing it. Okay. So let’s take, uh, the number two item on the agenda licensing for Warwick Entertainment. Thank you for standing by allowing us to take it out of order. It was interesting. Well, that’s good. Now it was, you know, we can stop by. It’s interesting. Thank you Again. That was excellent.

42:27 Well, great. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you. Uh, yeah, please tell us, tell us a little bit about what you’re, what you’re looking to do and Well, We’re ultimately going to be back at this board. Well, we won’t, the potential purchasers of Warwick Entertainment from us will be back, uh, for a transfer of the license that we currently hold the, with the A BCC. And we are under an agreement to pursue that. But it came to my attention that I inadvertently had forgot to include one of the transfers of a stockholder in our corporation. Now during Covid, when David Groom came on board and Ike Van Otter came off board, and we said, we, we don’t want to have any cloud to this so

43:13 that we can have a seam swimming sort of transition. Okay, great. I think the, uh, motion is pretty self-explanatory, so I’m gonna entertain it. Right now. There’s a motion to approve the application from Warwick Entertainment 1, 2 3 Pleasant Street for a change of ownership interest as presented, subject to receipt of the required documents and approval from the Alcoholic Control Commission. No, move a second. Second. All those in favor, unanimous. Congratulations. Thank you. Appreciate you. Appreciate your, appreciate That. Thank you. Thank you, David. Thank you. All right. Move to, uh, our next, uh, agenda item is licensing, uh, for the Riptide Group. And if we have, do we have, uh, any,

43:59 I don’t see any representatives here. Okay. Thatcher, if you could give us a little background Sure. On this, we’d appreciate Rob update, I should say. Yeah. So this is, um, so it’s new ownership. So it’s, uh, initial, uh, application for the, both the annual entertainment license and the Sunday entertainment license. Okay. All right. Let me just have a look.

44:25 Okay. So it looks like there’s a pretty big exte expansion on in terms of the entertainment gear, which is, which is interesting. Interesting. Yeah. So there’s been quite a bit of renovations to the Yeah. To the building itself. Yep. That’s awesome. That’s great. All right. Any, uh, any discussion before I entertain the first motion? No. Okay. I’d like to questions. Hmm. No questions. No questions. Okay. I’d like to entertain a motion to approve the request from Riptide Group 116 Pleasant Street for an annual entertainment license for TVs, pool table, dartboard and jukebox during regular business hours, seven days a week, 11:00 AM to 11:45 PM

45:10 and for live bands. Thursdays through Saturday from 4:00 PM to 11:00 PM subject to no music to be heard from the streets and receipt of the required fees. So moved. Second. All those in favor, unanimous. And the second motion I’d like to entertain reads as follows, the motion to approve the request from retired group, 116 Pleasant Street for a Sunday, entertainment license for TVs, pool, uh, TVs, pool table, dartboard and jukebox during regular business hours. Seven, uh, days a week, 11:00 AM to 11:45 PM in co conformity with the statutes and ordinances related there too. Receipt of the required fees and, uh, is, is issued in conjunction with a license approved by the Commonwealth Department of Public Safety for Entertainment on Sundays. So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? Okay.

45:56 Unanimous on both counts. Uh, the following, uh, concerns the, the MS. Walk? Uh, no, we missed hidden door. God, my, I’m sorry guys’. I’m off my, I’m off my, uh, okay. You got, yeah, I’m off off my game. The hidden, I’m off it, I’m off my Gant tonight. It’s been a long game. It’s hidden door. It’s hidden. How could you see it? Oh, thank you. Thank you for, you know, letting me off the hook a little bit. Uh, yes. Do we have anybody from the hidden door? No. Doesn’t look fine. So we’re seeing, So same, same license as before. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Love it. Alright, I’d like to entertain a motion to approve the request from the Hidden Door 259 Washington Street for an annual entertainment license during regular business hours.

46:42 8:00 AM until 11:30 PM for cool jazz, reggae and adult entertainment. Uh, uh, adult contemporary average band size. Whoops. Whoops. Uh, average, uh, band size two to six people subject to no music to be heard from the streets and receipts of the required feast. So moved, please. All those in favor, unanimous. The second motion to approve the requests from the Hidden Door. 2 59 Washington Street for a Sunday Entertainment license for cool jazz reggae and adult contemporary average, uh, band size two to six people in conformity with the statutes and ordinances related there to receipt of the required fees and is issued in conjunction with a license approved by the Commonwealth and Department of Public Safety for Entertainment on Sundays. So moved. Second. All those in favor, unanimous.

47:31 A. Now we get to the, to the, uh, Ms Walk, organized by Angela, uh, Garger. And it is a, uh, takes place on Saturday, May 11th. And the motion is self-explanatory. Uh, it’s a request from Angela Garger, national Multiple Sclerosis Society to hold the annual, annual MS Walk on Saturday, May 11th, 2024, subjected to approval from police, fire schools, recreation and parks, police details and receipt of the required certificate of insurance. No permanent markings are allowed on the streets, and all temporary markings shall be removed at the conclusion of the event. The walk will start and end at Marblehead High School. So moved. Second. All those in favor, unanimous.

48:17 Okay, now we get to the, I’m gonna try to, uh, not drone and be as efficient as I move through this as possible. Uh, these are the licenses and we’re required to reach every one of them to read every one of them. And there’s about four or five pages, but we’re gonna do it in chunks. Uh, so there’s gonna be a motion followed by reading of the licensee licenses, and then, uh, a vote on all of those that I read in those categories. So, without further ado, I’d like to entertain a motion to renew the following 2024 licenses for businesses from the town of Marblehead, subject to all taxes and fees to the town being paid in receipt of all applicable, uh, departmental improvements, uh, approvals, lodging, house licenses, Harbor Light Inn,

49:04 54 Washington Street Manager, Peter Conway Harbor Light Inn, 58 Washington Street Manager, Peter Conway, the Marblehead Hotel, 264 Pleasant Street Manager, Debra McMullen Entertainment Licenses, Boston Yacht Club, one Front Street Manager, Brian Pelland, Casa Carona, 33, uh, Smith Street Manager, uh, Jose Bracamontes, Corinthian Yacht Club one Hot Street Manager, David Titus, Eastern Yacht Club, 4 47 Foster Street Manager, Jared Charney. Uh, Jerry, uh, Gary. Number five VFA Inc. 210 Beacon Street Manager, art Dodge Header’s Club 62 Pleasant Street Manager, er, Luta, uh, the Barrel in 2 59. Washington Street Manager, Benjamin Newman. Van Yang, 40 a Atlantic Avenue Manager, Lee Quinn,

49:52 Chen Harbor Light Inn, 58 Washington Street Manager, Peter Conway, the Hidden Door, 2 59 Washington Street Manager, Todd Horvath. My Todd Lounge, eight Besam Street Manager, Amanda Breen. Maddie Aloft, 15 State Street Manager, lore, Loretta Lang Riptide Group, LLC 116 Manager Street, uh, excuse me, uh, pleasant hundred 16 Pleasant Street Manager, uh, Macall Vno, um, Tedesco Country Club 154 Esco Street Manager, Michael McGillicutty. Chaplain Lyman Rollins, post two oh, uh, 2005 EFW 3 21 West Shore Drive Manager, Edward k Preble, the Landing 84 Front Street Manager, Robert Simonelli. Terry is Old Fashioned Ice Cream, 22 Atlantic Street Manager, Carlos Rocha, uh, Warwick Entertainment, LLC,

50:40 doing business as the Beacon 123 Pleasant Street Manager. David Zion, seaside Restaurant Group, LLC db. Doing business, uh, as three Co Tavern, 141 Pleasant Street. Uh, manager, Manel Percy, uh, LA Petite, uh, two Atlantic Avenue Manager Alexandra Lewis. Uh, neck Run Cafe 105. Ocean Avenue Manager George Marcos. Uh, and second licenses for secondhand dealers are as follow. I’m just gonna pause you for one second. Yes. Um, the landing, just when you’re reading, I, I just heard you say 84 and 80. It says 81 on here. I just wanna make sure We landing. Uh, you are, you are correct. Thank you. Is It 81? It is 81 from, okay, Perfect. I just wanna make sure. Yep. Thank you. Thank you for that. For that catch.

51:25 Uh, the following are secondhand dealers. Carmen’s jewelry hundred 64 Pleasant Street Manager, uh, uh, Carmen Esei, uh, Lee Antiques, 203rd Divide, Washington Street Manager Jessica Lee assist us consignment. One State Street manager, Kathleen Doy. Uh, the following are automatic amusement devices, licenses, device licenses. Gary number five V FFA Inc. 210 Beacon Street Manager, art Dodge for the following, uh, device, golden T, golf Live 2013. Serial number one four dash 1 7 1 3 8 0 1. Uh, Matty Sale, 15th State Street Manager Loretta Lang for a CD player. Riptide Group, 116 Pleasant Street, uh, manager Al, uh, VNO for the following device, a pool table.

52:13 Uh, and we’ll get those serial numbers. Uh, finally, uh, movie, uh, theater license, Warwick Entertainment, LLC 123 Pleasant Street. Um, managing member David Zion. Do I have a, a, a motion to move? Second. Second. All those in favor? Unanimous. Okay. Uh, I’d like to entertain a motion to renew the following Sunday Entertainment license, subject to all fees to the town being paid and approval from the Commonwealth Department of Public Safety for Sunday Entertainment, Boston Yacht Club one Front Street manager, Brian Pelland, Casa Corona, 33 State Street Manager b Bracamontes Casa Corona 33 State. Yeah. Jose Bca. Montes, what, what did I say? State Jesus. Alright, go ahead. Uh, Casa Corona 33 Smith Street, uh,

53:00 manager, Jose Bracamontes, Corinthian Yacht Club one Na uh, Nhan Street Manager, David Titus, Eastern Yacht Club 47 Foster Street Manager, Jared Cherney, uh, Tedesco Country Club 1 54 Tedesco Street Manager, uh, Michael McGillicutty, fan Yang 48 Atlantic Avenue. Manager Link, Quin Yen

53:22 two Atlantic Avenue Manager Alexander Lewis, the Hidden Door, 2 5 9 Washington Street Manager, Todd Horvath Horvath, uh, Maddie’s Sail Loft Incorporated. Doing business as Maddie’s Sale Loft 15 Street, 15 State Street Manager Loretta Lang, ma Thai Lounge eight Bessam Street Manager, Amanda Breen, the new Marble Head Landing, doing business as the landing 81. Front Street Manager, Robert Simonelli, Riptide Group 116 Pleasant Street Manager, uh, Miguel Vno, uh, Gary, number five, veteran Fireman Association, incorporated two 10, uh, beacon Street Manager, art Dodge Warwick Entertainment, LLC Doing Businesses. Wix 1 23 Pleasant Street Manager, David Zion. Chaplain Lyman Rollins. Post 2 2 2 0 0 5 EFW 3 21 West Shore Drive Manager

54:10 Edward Preble. So moved. Second. Second. Those in favor? Unanimous. Uh, I’d like to entertain another, another motion to renew the following Common Vic licenses. Subject to all taxes and fees to the town being paid in receipt of all applicable department approvals. A and DK Clam Box 1 95 Pleasant Street Manager, uh, Cleves, Crossey Amor, tequila Barr. 1 69 Pleasant Street, uh, manager, uh, Jose Luis Sanchez, Barrowman 2 59 Washington Street Manager Benjamin Newman. Uh, barnacle 1 41 Front Street Manager, Jay Sagan, blue Canoe Cafe 14th School Street Manager. Heather Harrison, cafe Italia 10 School Street Manager. Donna Oliviero, cafe Vesuvius. Eight Bes Street Manager. Bart Freddo Casa Corona 30 th Thrive Smith Street Manager.

54:58 Uh, Jose Bar, uh, barica Monte Driftwood Restaurant 63 Front Street Manager, Colleen Galvin. Drink Station 1 46 Washington Street Manager Daniel Lang Dunkin Donut. 60 uh, 1 61 Pleasant Street Manager, Claudio Santos. Eat Well Kitchen, Forti Atlantic and Avenue Manager. Fernando Oliviera Evan’s, New York Deli. Uh, New York Style Deli, Humphrey Street Manager, Evan Madoff Fan Yang House, uh, 2 48 Atlantic Avenue. Manager Ling Quinn Chen Fresca Pizza and Pasta Atlantic Avenue. Uh, manager Claudia Arujo, five Corners Kitchen two to four. School Street Manager Barry Edelman. Hidden Door, 2 59 Washington Street Manager Todd Horvath, Imperial Mandarin 165 Pleasant Street Manager Who bin New

55:47 Java Sun, 35 Atlantic Avenue Manager. Uh, Maria Torres Junie Uni one 14 Pleasant Street Manager, Chitra sbo, uh, the Landing 81 Front Street Manager, Robert Elli. Lip Wine or Cheese. Wanted La Atlantic Avenue Manager Alexander Lewis. Matt Aloft 15 State Street Manager. Letter Outta Lang Manhattan Sandwich Company a hundred, uh, uh, 10 Bessam Street Manager Michael Goodman. Michael, uh, Marblehead, uh, house of Pizza, seven Atlantic Avenue Manager Dmitri Zacharia. Uh, s Zacharias Minos Roast Beef, 27th Atlantic Avenue. Manager Mar Nochi and Illa Gj. Uh, Mookie at Mumford 114 Washington Street Manager,

56:34 Leticia Ferguson. Uh, muffin Shop 1 26 Washington Street Manager Luisa Capso, neck Run Cafe 105. Uh, ocean Avenue Manager to George Marcos, uh, peculiar Restaurant 2 61 Washington Street. Manager at Clevis Ori plus Cafe 34 A Atlantic Avenue Manager, clevis or Rossi Riptide Group, LLC one 16 Pleasant Street Manager, MCAL, uh, VNO, uh, scoop by Sea Salt 118 Washington Street Manager Scott Brinkman, Chuy’s Liquor 116 Atlantic Avenue Manager George Chuy Sol Bistro. Uh, 10 Bessam Street Manager, Honga, uh, this Ung Gian, uh, Spitfire Tacos 87 Pleasant Street Manager,

57:20 Ryan Harriman, Starbucks, 89 Pleasant Street Manager, uh, Mickeys, uh, sea Salt 126 Washington Street, manager Star Scott Brinkman. Terry Old’s Fashion Ice Cream 22 Atlanta, the Avenue Manager, Carlos Rocha, uh, LaRose, Ty, Asian Cuisine and Bar 26 Hawk Street Manager Paul Tran, the Little Store nine Green Street Manager, Matthew Gaman, Mookie’s at Medford. Uh, LLC 114 Washington Street. Uh, manager, Leticia Ferguson, three Cod Tavern, 40, uh, 1 41 Pleasant Street Manager, amino Percy to, uh, Tony, one School Street Manager, Antonia Brona, village Street, roast Beef and Seafood. Six. Beth Street Manager, Stefano Barro, uh, Warwick Entertainment, LLC 1 23.

58:08 Pleasant Street Manager, David Sion. So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? Unanimous.

58:17 Uh, I’d like to make the following motion to renew the following package. Store liquor licenses subject to all taxes and fees to the town being paid. And receipt of all applicable department, uh, approvals. Alcoholic PA package store licenses as follows, central Plaza Liquors Incorporated. Doing business as Beachball Liquors two 60 Humphrey Street Manager, Rohit Kumar Atel, beacon Hill Import Company, Inc. Woodfin Terrace Manager Mark Brown Haley’s Widen Spirits, hundred 16 Washington Street Manager Sean Ferguson. Uh, DG Colbert, Inc. Doing business as Chuy’s Liquor. Eight, uh, 16 Atlantic Avenue Manager, George Chuy, DN Liquors Corp. Doing business as Village Liquors. 22 Bessam Street, man Manager, fantom Nguyen.

59:05 And the following are Wine and Malt. Uh, package store licenses. Crosby’s Market 118 Washington Street, Theresa Clancy, little Harbor Lobster Company three Beacon Street, Laura O’Keefe, bapa Convenience, Inc. Doing Businesses. Richdale Marblehead 29, uh, Smith Street, Perth Patel. So moved. All those in favor? All vote vote Ms. I’m sorry to vote. Yep. Mr. Murray In favor, Mr. Aye. In favor. The next motion I’d like to entertain is to renew the following alcoholic beverage licenses, subject to all taxes and fees to the town being paid. Receipt of all applicable department approvals of valid certificate of of inspection for 2020 2024. A certificate of occupancy as appropriate

59:51 and compliance with chapter 3 0 3 0 4 of the Acts of 2004. The following are all alcoholic Common Vic Barnacle Corporation, a hundred forty one, a hundred forty one Front Street Manager Jay Sogan, cafe Italia Marblehead, doing business as Cafe Italia a hundred. Uh, one school street Manager, Donna Oliviero Fe Yang Restaurant Doing businesses Fe Yang House two. I was gonna Hold you for one second. Yep. Is it 10 or one for Cafe Italia for the address? Cafe Italia is 10. Okay. 10. 10 School Street. Thank you. Fe Yang Restaurant Inc. Doing business is Fe Yang, house two 40 a Atlantic Avenue. Manager Ling Quinn Chen. Food at five LLC doing Businesses. Five Corners Kitchen two to four. School Street Manager Barry Edelman, 2 57 Washington Street, doing business as the barman.

1:00:38 2 5 7 to 2 5 9. Washington Street Manager Benjamin Newman, Drexel, Inc. Doing business as the Hidden Door. 2 5 9 Washington Street Manager Todd aff. My Ty Lounge. Eight Bessam Street Manager. Amanda Bre. Maddie Aloft, Inc. Doing business as Maddie Aloft. 15, uh, 15 State Street Manager, Loretta Lang, the new Marble Head Landing, doing Business of the landing. 81. Front Street Manager, Robert Simonelli, peculiar Inc. 2 61 Washington Street Manager, clevis Ori Riptide, group 116 Pleasant Street Manager, Macal Vno, seaside Restaurant Group, LLC Doing business of three Cod RN Tavern. 1 41 Pleasant Street. Manager of Percy, uh, JDHE. Doing businesses, um, as Amor is Tequila Barr. 169.

1:01:23 Pleasant Street Manager, Jose. Uh, Luis Sanchez, nine Lives Group, Inc. Doing Businesses. Sea Salt 126 Washington Street Manager Scott, uh, uh, Brinkman, Tula X Incorporated Doing Businesses. Casa Corona, 33 30, uh, three Smith Street Manager, Jose, uh, Bracamontes Warwick Entertainment, LLC Doing Businesses, the Beacon, uh, 1 23 Pleasant Street Manager, David Zion. The following are Wine and Malt, uh, with Cordials, common Vic licenses, Kitson Table, Inc. Doing business as Sol Bistro. Nine Besam Street. Uh, manager Hong, uh, this young, uh, N Nian, sorry. Lui one at Lakin Avenue Manager Alexander Lewis

1:02:08 Jun 114 Pleasant Street Manager at Chitra Suk Sambo, uh, li Laro LaRose Thai Asian Cuisine and Bar 26 Hawk Street Manager Paul Tran Wine. And the following is a wine and malt beverage license in holder license to, to, uh, the Marblehead Hotel 264 Pleasant Street Manager, Deborah McMullen. The following is an all alcoholic beverage in holder’s license. Peter Conway doing business as Harbor Light Inn, 58 Washington Street. Uh, and the manager being Peter Conway. The following are all alcoholic club licenses. Boston Yacht Club one Front Street Manager, Brian Pelland, Pelland, uh, Corinthian Yacht Club one Han Street Manager, David Titus Tadesco Country Club 154 Tadesco Street Manager,

1:02:55 Michael Ilcu, uh, Eastern Yacht Club 47 Foster Street Manager, Jared, journey. The following are all al all Alcoholic Fraternal Club licenses. Gary Fi, veteran Fireman Association, Inc. 210 Beacon Street Manager, art Dodge Header’s Club, Inc. Mm-Hmm. 62 Pleasant Street, uh, manager Serta The following is an all alcoholic alcoholic Veterans Club license. Chaplain Lyman Rollins Post, uh, doing Businesses. Uh, 2 0 0 5. Veteran of Foreign Wars, uh, incorporated. 3 21 West Shore Drive Manager, uh, Edward Preble. The following is a Marblehead series pouring permit, permit for Marblehead Brewing Company, LLC, doing business as Marblehead Brewing Co Company 1 24.

1:03:41 Uh, pleasant Street Manager, Tracy Stockton. And the following are Carry in Alcoholic Beverage licenses, Fresca Pizza and Pasta. 50 Atlantic Avenue Manager, uh, Claudio Arujo, uh, the Little store, uh, nine Green Street Manager, Matthew Gaman, DJ Colbert, Inc. Doing business of Chubby 16 Atlantic Avenue. Manager George Chubby, A and d Clam Box 1 95 Pleasant Street Manager, Cleve Crosse plus Cafe 34, A Atlantic Avenue Manager. Uh, clevis, Rossi. All moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? Roll call. Oh, roll call again. Jesus. Mr. Murray in favor? Mr. Nye In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Graver In favor. Thanks for keeping me straight there. Great job, mark. Yes.

1:04:27 Good job. Me straight. I think I will. I guess we’re the next, the next uh, item on is, uh,

1:04:38 extended business hours for New Year’s Eve. Um, and this is what we, we do every year in celebration of the holidays, keeping our businesses open a little longer. And the motion is to allow restaurants in the town of Marble has remain open for business on Monday, January 1st, 2024 until 1:00 AM at their discretion. So moved. Second. All those in favor? Unanimous. Alright. It looks like we have, uh, the chief and Amy here, uh, to tell us a little bit about, uh, the tree burning, if there’s anything to tell, except that it’s a tremendous festival almost every year. Yeah. Any, any, any public announcements or any you wanna just read it?

1:05:28 You it coax us up here. Yeah. Come on Chief. Chief, You’re always scared of the microphone. I just, it’s awful, isn’t it? It is. It is. Yeah. You might, well, rather than me reading the, do you want me to read the, uh, the terms, the, the letter to kind of give Could please. Just for public announcement purposes. Okay. Well, that’s great. Okay. Uh, so, uh, as we all know, the animal tree burning, is it Riverhead Beach, scheduled for January 6th, uh, 2024 this year. And it’ll be satellite at 6:00 PM So, uh, there is a curbside pickup from Wednesday, December 27th, 2023 through Friday, January 5th, 2024. So that’s right after Christmas through, you know, the fifth, the night before the tree burning.

1:06:14 That’s great. And we’ll be placed at Riverhead Beach for the community bonfire on Saturday evening, January 26th. Okay. January 6th. January 6th. Yeah. Christmas trees will continue to be picked up, curbside. Okay. Uh, after January 6th, after the burning until January 12th, after January 12th, residents should bring trees to the tower transfer station for a proper disposal. Okay. That’s, that’s useful to know. All trees left curbside for pickup from December 27th until January 12th. Must have all lights, ornaments, and stands removed and not be in plastic bags. Any tree not meeting these requirements will not be picked up. In addition, holiday wreaths, roping and garlands will not pick picked up either. Stacher, do we have anything on, on the website that kind of describes this? Yeah, It’s gonna go out on the fire department. In fire department. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And

1:07:00 I believe we sent an email last time we signed up And I’m sure Will’s gonna post something so awesome. Just to emphasize, ‘cause it went really well last year. People corroborated no wreath frames, no lights. When we did the cleanup, I think it was virtually just wood. So we just want people to That’s awesome. Work with us again. Get the message, get out. Right. Just, uh, hopefully do that again this year. But we always look forward to your, you know, to both your super, your supervision. Mid winter prevent Yeah. Your supervision of this. I mean, it has to be done carefully because that’s a, that’s a roaring fire. And to make sure they don’t put them out after the date we set for not picking them up so they don’t become a plowing issue. Right. Right. And they can bring in the night of if they wanna bring ‘em with ‘em. That’s Right. We’re Happy to throw the trees The night of. That’s right. Okay. That’s a good point, actually.

1:07:47 Uh, let’s see. What does it say? It says pickup up through the fifth. Yeah, that’s, that’s worth, that’s worth emphasizing. Although you don’t wanna, maybe, you know, everybody will bring their tree in the night up. Okay. Yeah. That’s a great tradition. Well, probably not. It’s easier to leave it out before. Yeah. Since it’s a Saturday. Friday’s the last day. So, like I said, if somebody misses, they just bring the tree. Okay. Great to know. Well, thanks again. Thanks again. There is a gingerbread house At the gingerbread festival this year. I’m not sure. Did you guys see it? That was of the tree burning. That was the, that was the submission. It was beautiful, but it was very appropriate for this conversation. They did a excellent, great job highlighting it. So clearly you impressed someone enough to build a gingerbread house for it. So it’s, It’s a great event.

1:08:33 Yeah, it’s great. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Uh, the next one is to approve our minutes, uh, and to entertain a motion to approve, which are included in, in this package for your, you’ve had a chance to review them, uh, but the motion is to approve the minutes of November 3rd, 2023. November 13th, 2023, and December 4th, 2023. So moved second. All those in favor? All right. Unanimous. The next are all contracts, extensions or otherwise, um, that, do you, do you wanna give us a We, we, we do have a little description in the package here, but it could be better coming from you. Right. Which I’ll sort of iterate. So the first one is, uh, title for administrative software

1:09:20 to Tyler Technology. So this is our financial software that we’ve been talking about for quite some time of migrating off of the wonderful 1980 software that we’re using onto more current and robust. Um, so we went through a procurement process, request for bids. Um, there are not a lot of players in this marketplace. Um, and so Tyler technologies are otherwise known as Munis. Um, so the figure here is the, the total amount of the three year contract is 1,000,020 3,923. However, that’s made up of, um, 461,000. 440 of that amount is for, uh, the transition off

1:10:06 of the old software onto the new software. So it’s the whole onboarding work. Uh, this board is already approved to use ARPA funds ‘cause it’s a one-time cost to cover the, that cost. So the net cost after that, those one-time cost set aside is 562,483 thereabouts. That covers all three years of the contract services. So the annual cost is somewhere around a hundred and 187,494. There’s a few things that are like fees in there that may change that number slightly, but that’s, our annual commitment is about 187,000. And this is a full-fledged software package,

1:10:53 general ledger collections, hr, uh, payroll, all all the things that, that we need as an enterprise system to manage. So it’s a, it’s a software as a service annual contract, uh, for this. So this is our, this is our big move. Um, move all our system. Super exciting. Yes. Long time in in the making. Long time in the making. Yeah. What’s the, uh, what’s the kind of with Muni, the kind of the implementation cycle? It’s, it’s gonna take, uh, probably over a year, but it’s module by module. So, so the first would be our general ledger. I mean, that’s the, the heart of the system. And then, um, module by module, bringing over different components of it.

1:11:41 Um, I, I have the, I have the long list of all the different components. It’s deep in the weeds on, on finances, but it, it’ll, it’ll be a good year or so. Uh, as, as we, we bring the totality of the whole system, How does that line up with the completion of our chart of accounts and the, and the study that, you know, ‘cause when the GL comes online you want, or as it’s coming online, you want to have that ready. So, so it, that’s another, uh, item. We, we find it through opera is paying a consultant to rebuild our chart accounts as part of this process. So they’ll all work hand in hand. ‘cause So when we move over to Tyler, we will be working, or, or Muni, we’ll be working under a new chart of accounts,

1:12:26 but with the work of the consultant is map the data back to the old chart of accounts so that we have that historical data. But we will be starting fresh, uh, as, as we’re rolling forward. So, all right, why don’t we, uh, take these in turn. Uh, I’d like to agenda a motion to vote to award the contract for administrative software for Tyler Technologies for a three, three year contracting the amount of $1,023,923, which includes $461,440 and a one-time implementation costs. And authorized the chair ProAm to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? Alright. Awesome. The next, uh, motion Thatcher, if you could.

1:13:14 So this one is, um, the contract is, um, for the cleaning of stormwater catch basins. Um, this is actually the third year of a three year contract. So when we go out to bid for these types of services, usually we’ll award it for a one year contract with two renewal options. So if they’re doing the job well, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll do the renewals for years two and three. Uh, that’s the case here. So this is, uh, to renew for year three, um, for Roadway Maintenance Services, Inc. Contract for cleaning of stormwater catch basins. Uh, the cost is $107,500. And like an Enter entertain a motion to award, um, option year three of the Roadway Maintenance Services Inc.

1:14:03 Contract for cleaning of stormwater catch basins dated May 1st, 2022 to Roadway Maintenance Services, Inc. For the period of January 1st, 2024 through December 31st, 2004. Uh, 24 for, uh, for the not to exceed price of $107,500 and 0 cents. And authorize the chair pro tem to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? All right. And the third contract. And the third contract is, is simply an extension of an existing contract, uh, with, um, town and Environmental partners of Quincy Mass. They are doing the, uh, infrastructure asset management or study on our sidewalks, ramps, and signals.

1:14:49 Um, so this is through, through the public works, so it’s to give them more time to complete the work, uh, adding an additional six months to the contract. Alright. I’d like to entertain a motion to extend the contract between the Town and Environmental Partners of Quincy Mass, uh, for infrastructure asset management sidewalks, ramps signals for an additional six months to end on, uh, May 23rd, 2024. And authorize the chair Pro temp to sign the contract on behalf of the board. Moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? Okay. Unanimous. Uh, the next agenda item is, uh, to open up Abbott Hall for a wedding, which we always welcome.

1:15:36 And, uh, it’s, uh, will Britton and met Meredith O’Hare. The motion is, uh, self-explanatory to approve the requests from Will Britton and Meredith O’Hare to use Abbott Hall for a wedding ceremony on October 26th, 2024 from 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM subject to the usual rules, regulations, custodial fees, and receipt of the required certificate of insurance. So moved. And second. All in favor? All in favor. I just wanted to say too, just, um, to speak to this, I enjoyed reading their letter and their history and Mm-Hmm. So, will and Meredith, thank you for sharing. It was very, very moving, and thanks for sharing.

1:16:19 Yes. All right. Uh, now we have a request for a letter of support, um, for the Marblehead Arts Association’s capital grants application to the Mass Cultural Council. And, uh, Thatcher, do you have, uh, this is really, it’s a handy accessible bathroom in the Hoopers Mansion. Yeah. So, yep. So they, they don’t have a bathroom on the first floor. Um, it’s a 300 year old building. This would create a bathroom and make it accessible for folks who visit. Awesome. Okay. I can understand a motion to approve the requests from Jim Murphy, president Marblehead Arts Associations to write a letter of support, which is included in our package

1:17:06 of the Marblehead Arts Association. Grants application of the Mass Cultural Council Facilities Fund, uh, to fund creating a handicap accessible bathroom on the first floor at the King Hooper Mansion. Authorized the chair proton to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second. All those in favor? Right. And here we have a, another letter of support that I think originates from the mayor of Lynn. Yes. And concerning the extension of ferry service. Yes. So when, when the, um, uh, the Sumner Tunnel was being closed for construction, um, uh, the state transportation created alternative form forms of transportation to get folks in and outta Boston, which included, uh, creating the ferry service, uh, that’s serving this,

1:17:52 this North Shore area. Um, and so the, the municipalities along the coastline, um, all the way from East Boston, Quincy Swampscott, Marblehead Hunt, uh, winter through and all the communities, um, really benefited from the, the alternative means of transportation in, in and outta Boston. So it was originally set up as a temporary service during the construction of the tunnel. Um, there will be more closures coming, but, um, the mayor of land was sort of leading the North Shore, uh, is asking for us to submit letters of support with the other communities to ask the state to make it a more permanent form of transportation for commuters going in and outta Boston by using a ferry.

1:18:38 This was a great service that they had. Yeah. Um, you know, my family had utilized it. It’s reduces congestion. Yeah. I didn’t think anyone who utilized it was fairly satisfied with the performance. Timing was well run. Yeah. It’ll be interesting to, uh, to see how it could, uh, you work in marble, it’s, you know, proper Yeah. You know. Right. ‘cause this other infrastructure work rail lines as such. So, yep. We need all, we need alternatives for people Commuting. We’re kind of out on a peninsula here. Yeah. Would make sense. Yep. On the Salem route. Okay. Uh, yeah, I think, I think we’re enthusiastically in favor of a letter of support, but let me entertain the motion anyway, to write a letter to the Massachusetts Department of Transportation relating to water transportation opportunities to the local area,

1:19:26 and seeking answers to questions in advance of 2024, uh, about the long term decisions about the future of our water transportation. And authorize a chair pro to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second. Second. All those in favor? All right. The next, uh, item on our agenda is a discussion of the Marblehead Charter. And I think we’ve all been, uh, uh, interested to hear the level, uh, of interest across town, uh, with regards to a charter. And I think, uh, you know, I’m, I’m gonna read a letter from our chair. Uh, but I think, you know, from my perspective, what, you know, the main driver to kind of contemplate this initiative is that we are, you know,

1:20:12 facing, uh, financial constraints and a charter and a, and a and a professional third party that includes a third party review. Could help us find ways to modernize a little bit. But I think also, you know, for, certainly from my perspective, I think that it’s really key. I’m gonna defend quite stoutly our, our broadly distributed, uh, uh, uh, committee structure, which, uh, which relies on volunteers. Uh, I think that that balance between efficiency and broad representation is, is something that we would, you know, that we would kind of, I would emphasize throughout. Um, I’d like to read, uh, a letter, uh, from, uh, from Aaron, uh, to my fellow board members. I regret that I’m unable to attend tonight’s meeting to my,

1:20:59 to, to my fa uh, to my daughter’s ongoing medical needs. I’ve asked Moses to share my thoughts on the topic, uh, of a town charter. I am in support of the board looking into the process of creating a town charter. I think it would be worthwhile to collect information about the process and perhaps bring in outside expertise to explore the potential benefits. A charter is a document that defines a town’s government structure and how powers duties and responsibilities are distributed across departments and offices. They are reviewed and amended as needed and set forth within the charter itself. It also provides the town autonomy and allows for the flexibility to enact changes to our local government without going through the laborious process of home rule petitions in the state legisla legislature in most cases, uh,

1:21:44 as our board has been committed to working in conjunction with professional staff to modernize town operations and maximize efficiency, it makes sense to me that we should explore the idea of a charter. It is possible that going through the process could help Marblehead streamline operations and improve service delivery through the type of organizational review that a charter study would undertake. For these reasons, I’m in favor exploring the idea further and bringing forward some outside introductory information and guidance on what the process would look like. You know, really good thoughts. I dunno if anybody else has any thoughts, comments, uh, around this. Um, you know, what was the meeting that, that you encouraged us MMA webinar on of government?

1:22:29 Yep. Well, I found that very interesting to listen to, you know, and I think, uh, you know, one of the, you know, couple, one of the key takeaways is that a charter is something that’s kind of statutorily made at the state level. And then within the charter, there are obviously bylaws that are kind of more responsive to the, to the town, uh, needs. Uh, so, you know, and you know, again, if you do create a charter, whatever goes in there needs the state to kind of change. So I think, again, it comes to this balance between kind of what, what we say in the charter and what we have in our chart in our bylaws. I think they have to sing together. You know, it’s at some point, um, you know, from my point of view, this is something we do the best we can

1:23:15 to think about socialize and bring before the town. And the town can either say yay or nay or, or, you know, go back and do a better job. But I think it’s, it’s important that we, that we think about this particularly for the reasons, you know, I outlined earlier. I think it’s helpful to also, you know, get the guidance that we can from, you know, whatever outside organizations too, that we can help to, to present that information to us. And I think, you know, as Moses stated, this is an opportunity to look at all the things that we care about. Efficiency, cost savings, transparency, taking what we’re already doing, and finding a way to make that perhaps clearer. You know, some of that is part of that process as well. Uh, however, you know, I, and in no way an expert on that.

1:24:02 So I, you know, I think it would be important for us to see if there’s opportunities that we can take bring to, you know, town meeting and say, this is, you know, these are the opportunities that exist now, what makes sense for Marblehead? You know, what are the opportunities? So, um, you know, I think that would be important to have that discussion. Agreed. I know they had the, the webinar, but, um, you know, other opportunities to, you know, call in center or anyone else, you know, I think they have presentations, you know, we could get some additional information. So, so one of the other, I think takeaways from that webinar was there, there are, there are different, um, forms of government based on charters that you may set up.

1:24:49 Right. Um, what they described what Marble had in, in their other communities fall under is, if I have it right, a collection of state statute charter, meaning we just follow under all the various state statutes that dictate local government. So at a minimum, a charter would just codify in one coherent document your form of government, right? E even if you were to change nothing, but to put it in the form of a charter, you’ve at least codified in one place. This is how we operate. And then, you know, further on, as, as some of the speakers talked about, as you can tailor the charter

1:25:35 to meet your community’s needs and define, you know, where and how much powers are placed in different components of the local government. Um, and so that’s where, you know, some of the, the decisions to be made. But the, the key takeaway was you can, you can tailor it, you know, there are sort of fairly standard structure of charters, but you can tailor it to whatever the community, uh, wants, uh, in, into, its, into its charter. And then the charters can be revised over time, through, through processes. So it was very informative. Yeah. The webinar went on. There’s not one way, you know, there, there’s, there’s a core piece, but then like you said, it’s what’s best for that community.

1:26:21 Yeah. And, and I think, you know, our community really hasn’t done a deep dive in many, many years on this. You, you know, I mean, I think maybe the last time we really took a look at our government structure and how we operated town was probably back in 1989 with Crescent. So I think it’s about time that we do that due diligence. And I think just to let people know, I mean, from what I’ve been able to read and understand, this is a mo this is not something that’s gonna happen in six months, eight months. This is a multi-year. So don’t think that we do this in a year from now. It’s gonna come to town meeting. I mean, this is gonna, you know, require a long-term investment, um, from US citizens, however, you know, however it’s done. But I’m, you know, I was in favor of it. One, the League of Women voters, you, you know, meetings, um, you know, can, it’s nice to ask a question. I was in favor, but then I’m still in paper down. I think it’s worth exploring, uh, to do, you know, start that process.

1:27:10 Yeah. I mean, I, I think you, you know, uh, uh, Aaron obviously alluded to this as well, but I think the, the, there’s some real value in the process of discovery here, you know, and, uh, I think there’s some urgent dri there’s some really legitimate drivers for doing it. And the second thing I would say is I think the select board is really best positioned to undertake this process because, you know, we can marshal the resources, we can structure that, we can plan the process in a kind of, uh, deliberative, you know, pretty coherent fashion. And, you know, I think it’s gonna be important as we go forward. And I agree with you, it’ll be probably a multi-year basis. But, you know, it’s, it’s to kind of socialize it and make people, you know, make sure that people are Mm-Hmm. You understand that it’s, uh, you know, that are,

1:27:55 that we love our form of government and, uh, you know, a charter can just help us make it better. Mm-Hmm. Yeah. And I think it’s important to highlight this is not a, like one, or this, you know, this is an, and this, this is an opportunity and, and can be an opportunity to put into one place where we’re taking state statutes and bylaws and, you know, putting into a more, you know, more accessible form. Uh, you know, at its bare, bare bones of it that can provide that clarity and transparency as well. But it also presents an opportunity to the people of Marette to say, you know, here’s another thing that we can bring forward and see if this is something that would fit. Yeah. It’s a good for first step. Yep. Good. Yeah. Alright, well this is great.

1:28:42 I mean, this, anything else Thatcher that, uh, So, um, what, what’s been some of the feedback I’ve gotten is, um, looking at reaching out to the Collins Center, um, which I have, I have a, I have a relationship. I used to be a consultant with the, the, the, the Collin Center. Yeah. Um, and, and having done my own charters in Ambury, uh, work on this. So, um, so I’ve reached out. So what I tend to do is coordinate for them to come and do a presentation to give sort of the basic layout of this is how a charter process works. Here’s your options. And, and allow for some questions and discussion about what does it,

1:29:27 what does the process look like? What do some of the results in other places? What do they look like, uh, to get the idea of, you know, what direction does Marblehead want to go. I think that would be great to have that opportunity for the board. And also, you know, for anyone in the public for have that opportunity to listen as well to someone who’s an expert and to help, you know, simplify and also explain what are those different opportunities that exist and what does this mean, you know, in 20 23, 20 24, if a town were to look at something of this nature. Yep. So is that, that’s something that, you know, you could execute for us. Yeah. That wheel’s already started turning. Great. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I, I don’t think, you know, Marblehead really jealously protects.

1:30:13 Its, uh, ver you know, it’s verbal, uh, traditions. I think we have a long history of that, but I, I, I don’t think we lose that, uh, you know, with, with a, you know, with, with, with an, with a, with an attempt, uh, of, of good analysis and, and, and thinking about our town structure. So yeah. All righty. Great. Thank you for that. Thank you. Alright. Uh, agenda item 16th is a request for no parking zones in front of the following sewer pump station access points. And I know this is a, a red hot item for, uh, Amy, if you would you like to Yeah. Explain the issue. Uh,

1:30:58 Damn good. You’re in, You’re In. Nice. Oh, you’re gonna do more than you’re gonna do more than just explain. It’s gotta be really quick lot of pictures. No, no. I love the picture. We love it. We love it. Pictures worth a thousand words, Right? Um, for, we have 28 pump stations in Marblehead and we visit them every day, but they are operating 24 hours. The sewer department is on call 24 hours and we are expected to respond within like nine or 15 minutes when an alarm goes off. So we have found that we have a lot of people parking in front of pump stations, which are accesses at. And now with um, no longer have off street parking, we now have issues with people parking close. We can’t push snow.

1:31:43 And if we have to get the next equipment up, I just messed you up, sorry. Um, this is the type of equipment you’re looking at. So it’s vac trucks, portable pumps, uh, generators. We have to generate power and the power goes down. So, um, they basically will set up back to back along the side of the road. But, uh, again, in the winter, if we’ve now pushed snow next to parked cars and have big snow drifts, we’ll be out in the street. Um, so I am hoping to really get, some of these pump stations do have no parking signs in front of ‘em already, but they don’t have like, official tow zone sign. So we’re hoping, uh, that we can request on the public ways. So it’s not at every 28 pump stations ‘cause some are in private areas, some have access, uh, they have driveways and then we have places we can set up.

1:32:29 We’re not looking for those. Um, but these, uh, I’ll just go through the list of where they are. We have some quick pictures. I’m not gonna do much explanation, but, uh, one would be the Fort Beach pump station at 11 Fort Beach Lane.

1:32:45 That’s where that station is. There’s already a fence there, there’s already no parking sign there, but we always have people parking there. Um, so the vac truck needs to get in and get to the back to the wet. Well that would be, so we could suck a wet while out when the pumps go dry. Um, generators do need to go out in front. If, uh, we have, uh, well that one would have to have two failures. ‘cause that does have an on uh, generator inside a lot of the pump stations. You can’t see though. You can just flip through ‘em fast. And I’ll just go, station two is Norman Street. Um, that is a below ground pump station. That one is very busy during summertime. Um, you know, the, the road is wide enough that we can pull out in the summer, but if you do add people park along that side, um, if they do stay all winter, we have nowhere to push that snow. So now we are actually blocking the whole road. If we have to go to that station.

1:33:32 Uh, Kenneth Road is at the end of Green Street, so that also has people who block it. It’s um, right behind that fence actually. But we need to be able to set that all of our, uh, equipment up right there. So it would, and I don’t know if people ever park in these areas. So our next one is Green Street Station. That’s just to make sure that people stay away from the entrance, um, which will be across if the transfer station uses that. So we just wanna make sure as queuing goes, um, that doesn’t happen. You can click to the next one. Uh, so this is Village Street, um, that is, uh, a boating area. So we’re not looking at blocking the whole thing. But we do need to block one side so people can still, you’re not supposed to park down there now, but very rarely. People, you know, very often people are parking down there

1:34:18 and then, you know, they’re only gonna be there five minutes. But once we pull down that road, you’re not gonna be able to get by us either. So it is really important that people stay away from that one. Uh, Shorewood Pump Station is a residential neighbor. Very rarely do we see people in front of it, but that is all underground access. That’s one of our largest pump stations. And it does, um, we would have a way to set up portable pumps if we ever had to bypass it. We have had to bypass it, uh, just in the last two years. So, um, BU is a small station. That one is actually inside that fence. So we need to be able to park on the street outside that fence. We can’t pull stuff through the fence to get on the, uh, right of way. So we’re looking for that, that one. And you can see there people parking there. Han Street again is very similar. It’s the end of the road, but people park on both sides

1:35:04 of it and in front of it. So we can’t get to that one at all. Um, and that one generally tends to have alarm in 4th of July for some reason. It likes to call us every 4th of July. So, um, sumac station that is along Harbor Ave, uh, that one we don’t see that many issues with, but we wanna make sure that we can always get to that station. Um, so it would just be, uh, again, we’re looking for a regular 20 feet, uh, all year round. And then from November 15th, April 15th, we can talk about those times at adding an additional 20 feet. I’m not thinking that we need striping, I’m thinking it will just be poles and signs that say no parking signs. I was gonna Ask that. I know some of them had the striping and it looked like you were extending it, but some of them didn’t and a sign just might get lost. So I personally like the signs better. I don’t think we need white lines everywhere.

1:35:51 And the signs, it’s just so that the signs know you, that there’s no parking between signs and it says it’s the tow zone. The striping does work, but then everybody wants striping in front of the driveways and we just have striping everywhere. Um, foster Street already has no parking, but it does not say that it’s a tow zone. So, you know, there’s, we’re not asking for any more parking there, but we do wanna make sure that it is a toil. Um, that one gets really crowded all around it. Harbor Ave we always have a problem with people parking on top of it. So this is a huge problem. There’s a barrel there. We can get rid of the barrel. I think if we put the no parking signs, that barrel’s been there for like three years, but people park directly on top of the door. So it, that one is always a major problem. Um, and then Phillips is down by Gulf Weight. People don’t even notice that it’s there.

1:36:36 So that one doesn’t even, uh, no parking also. Um, Seaview would be our last one. Uh, most of the time we can pull in to the parking lot. It’s just one, we can’t pull into that parking lot. We can’t get to that station. And we also can’t pull the vac truck, uh, and set it up correctly to get to the wet well. Um, and then May Street is small. This one is in a neighborhood. Um, the neighbors are generally good about not parking there, but it still is somewhere, you know, people might be parked overnight. We, we are generally there for an emergency in the middle of the night. Um, and then Wilson Road is a small station at, I don’t even think anyone parks there either, but it’s just to make sure that there are signs so people understand what it is and that they shouldn’t park there. Uh, and Lafayette is a larger problem.

1:37:23 People are always parked here. They park in front of the hydrant. They park in front of the station, they park in front of the access. Um, so this one we definitely need to look at. ‘cause they park and they leave trucks. We have no idea who they are. Yeah, yeah. In boat. So there’s still plenty of parking beyond it. It, it is only this area right here. And um, that would be Driftwood is an access for an easement. It’s actually in between those two houses. So no one has any idea that we have to get there every day. So, you know, no parking there emphasizes the fact that that’s an important place to be. And again, these pump stations are all working towards, um, you know, if they fail, they’re failing those neighborhoods. So it is a direct result if we have a fail

1:38:08 that’s bothering you if you live in that neighborhood. So, um, So what, what does the signage look like? Are you, are you thinking of doing more temporary signage? Uh, Or, uh, I’m thinking of exactly what we saw at Foster. So there’ll be a pole. Um, there’ll be parking between signs, three pulls. Eventually one will probably come up and down, but a small sign that says no parking with the little tow zone, the little, uh Oh, I see. But they’ll come up and down. So they’re, They’ll actually stay up. They’ll actually stay stay. So the 20 foot one will always stay up. And the 40 foot one, the sign might come down or it might just stay up because it says no November, this is permit, this is permanent, this isn’t for permanent. This Is all permanent. Yep. Okay. So these stations, most of them went in in the sixties and they’ve all there Permanent and not just winter, well Permanent for the smallest space, but during the winter some

1:38:54 of the spaces would be expanded on the snow. And then when the winter’s over, we contract back down from Exactly. So we are there every day. So we need to get there every day no matter what. So that’s just one car parking. Yep. Um, but then in the winter, I’m re I, as I’ve been driving around, those roads are gonna get really small when we start to push. ‘cause everyone I’ve noticed is now tucking in right along the sides are staying right there. So, um, we would be blocking May Street, Norman Street, Ford Beach Lane, all all those at, So the effort here, because knowing parking is always an issue in Marblehead. And, and the complexity of this is do the presentation, give the board and,

1:39:40 and the public sort of a chance to look at this is this is what we’re doing, this is why. And then ask for the board and presumably next meeting to to to take action on it. Take action on it. Yeah. We want to share this publicly of the intent and the reasons why and all the details that go with Makes Sense. Makes sense. Yeah. What do you estimate the impact is in terms of number of spaces? You know, if you were to throw a ballpark out there, you know, for all of this. So right now most of them have um, either a sign or a hash mark with no sign. Like Norman Street doesn’t have a sign but it has white hash marks. Yeah. So yeah. Um, I don’t know the history of how if no parking was given to those spaces

1:40:26 or you know, the town, the water and sewer department just asked highway and they went out and Yeah. Yeah. Painted them. So I’m really just trying to make sure everybody knows that they really did go through a vote. If you want no parking, it does have to come to a vote. Um, and then we always have, you know, just a concern with um, when we call the police to tow whether it is really signed. And it really said it was a tow zone. And so really just to clarify, ‘cause these are super important places. Um, I believe I’m, it’s 18 spaces all the time and I would say half of them already have no parking or they have a line or no one parks there. Generally fence And A very good point that the people that are parking there would be most affected if those pumps go down.

1:41:11 Right. So they have a uh, added incentive not to partner. Yes. Vested interest for sure. It’s A good opportunity to highlight this, this issue too, so. Right. And I don’t know, I mean most of these pump stations, you don’t even realize they’re there. I know. So interest. Um, it was also another opportunity to show that there are 28 of these, A lot of ‘em are on private roads. I have to figure out how I deal with the private roads. ‘cause those also we need the same, um, type of space. But I also wanna compliment the clarity of the presentation. Yes. Well done. Excellent. Thank you. I think it helps You just to provide where a lot of these are marked one way or the other, but to have the consistency throughout and also to say that, you know, parking, this is a tow zone

1:41:59 and why, you know, ‘cause this is the reason why and we need to access this and there’s, you know, a rhyme and reason for what this is, why this is happening, what this is here for. And you know, if you’re in that area, you really do need to be able to Right. To access and then it can be a timely issue. So I think this is also a communications campaign too, to let the public know and for us to have consistency too. And as you said, I think it’s great that you highlighted here, this is the process coming through. This is how we’re designating the no parking area and why. And making that clear and transparent. I think it really helps too. And I think also working with the chief of police to make sure his officers, you know, are going out and just giving warnings to some of the cars that are doing it right now that aren’t being towed. You know, at the very least if, if there is a no, if there’s just a no parking, just make sure that they’re,

1:42:46 you know, it’s on their radar too. ‘cause like you say, some of these are kind of hidden. They might not, they might even know about it, but that might be a good thing just to let The Yep. And that is another plus for them to be able to pull up and see the sign and the, you know, there’ll be either, it will either say no toe or they have a, a nice L-M-U-T-D sign that has a tow truck to car. Yeah. So, I mean, we wanna be fair. But they shouldn’t be parking there. No. I mean, if we have to get there and those trucks have to be, there’s, you know, those trucks, they have to be moved one way or the other. Or hoses go over or on top of their cars and, Well, that was gonna be my next question. So, uh, you know, let’s say someone does park there and there’s no time to tow and you have to access a pump, you know, at that point you’re trying to go around them, right. Can you speak a little bit about like what, what is the complicated, if I drop my car there,

1:43:32 what’s the complication that presents itself for you? So if pumps go down, uh, every station has a wet, well, it has a, a certain amount of, um, wastewater that it can hold before it starts to back up things. Um, generally if it does back up, you’re gonna see it through a manhole out in the street. But we do have houses who come in a lot lower than that manhole. So, uh, you can’t see it in people’s basements when that happens. Um, so we, the first thing we do is pull up with that really large truck, the vac truck. Um, and that actually can back out of the wet, well, we have two of those. Um, they can rotate. They can go to another area where they can dump and then they can come back. We also have portable pumps, but the hoses are, uh, 12. They’re between eight and 12 inches. Um, so that

1:44:18 Truck right there, it’s gonna go in and actually pump That back truck has to park right there to get to that wet. Well, And there’s no, you know, I mean it has, I’m sure Now that one’s a private, so I have to deal with that a different way, but, And so the extension arm on that only, it’s gonna have a, a limitation too, right? So you have the extension arm and then that runs to solid tubes. You can see the guy right there has a solid tube. Yep. So that means that arm goes over that and then the solid tube is gonna have to lay on top of that car to get to the manhole. The other issue is if a lot of these are manholes in the street, so Shorewood is a, a great example. Our wet wells in the street, all those manholes would be in the no parking zone. Those have to be open so that you can drop all these, uh, tubes down. The other option, which I didn’t show you guys here is we do have portable pumps. So they’re larger, a little larger than the size of this table.

1:45:03 They come on a trailer. They can also, uh, take out of the wet well and go right into a snorkel if we have one. Uh, and all the stations do. But if we do, and then they go right back into the force main so we can bypass it for a long period of time if we have to fix it that way. And then we also have generators, but the generators are all large too. We, uh, they run from 60 to a hundred kv. So a hundred KV is, is a large, you know, it’s probably an 18 foot trailer. So, and those are limited by the amount of extension cord that we have or the plug right. Some of ‘em we do have tra uh, traffic boxes so we can get a little further away. But a lot of those we have to open the door and go down into the station with that cord. And those cords are not extremely long. They might be 20 feet. So we really need to be right at the door.

1:45:50 And what would you say if someone were to say, well why can you just do this temporarily? Why do you have to do it? You know, why does it have to be there all the time? Like, you know, can you explain that just for anybody who’s listening to? Sure. So these stations run 24 hours. Some have one pump, some have three. We can have issues like wipes, clogging pumps. If you’re in a one pump station and a wipe clogs at station, that means that backtracks gotta get there right away, uh, to be able to take over. So, uh, stations all pump a different amount of time depending on, um, time of day where people live, how many stations flow into it. We have ones that are, you know, accept multiple stations. Uh, so we have no really idea when, uh, you’re gonna have a mechanical failure, when we’re gonna be overburdened by a storm. Um, and electrical, you know,

1:46:38 our old stations are have difficulty because now the electrical work in there is old. But as we upgrade to our SCADA systems and our PLCs and all the electronics, we tend to find we’re having a lot of electronic issues with things. So, uh, you know, even the new stuff, the pump is working great, but the PLC, which is the controller that tells it is, you know, gets held up because of a battery back. Something really small can take the whole station down. Um, you know, I, I commend my crew. They are, uh, one carries a phone, they all watch where, um, everybody is, every night you go home, everyone knows who’s around, who’s not around to call. Um, you know, and they are all here within 15 minutes. And if they think, you know, they get stuck in traffic, they call somebody else who lives closer to town

1:47:25 who might not have the phone at that point to, to come. So, So this is, you know, this is to me, my understanding, I think your takeaway of the difference between this would be, you know, something like a winter parking ban. You know, the snow is coming, you can address it. This situation is not simply limited to storms. You might have multiple different reasons why time is of the essence and you, you need that space. It’s not just isolated to storms. There can be multiple reasons why you have to get in there. So, you know, that really leans to why this would be more of a consistent access, not just temporary. Yeah, no, I think that’s, And I’ve learned, as I’ve learned during construction, you know, you can put signs up everywhere and people park, but you can never get ahold of that one car that’s right there. Oh yeah. You know, so you can say, oh,

1:48:10 you’re gonna knock on all your neighbor’s doors, but, or the police have the numbers of everyone. It does not, Is is it worth identifying it time sensitive? Yeah. Sorry, I didn’t interrupt. Yeah, No, no, go ahead. It uh, is it worth identifying the pump station? You know, so people kind of know what it is. I think half the battle is people just, Right. So they actually all do have a sign that says when the alarm is sounding, call 7 8 1 6 3 1 0 1 0 2, and this is station 11. They, they actually do have a sign. They don’t say this is a sewer pump station. Yeah. What? But they probably also don’t understand the size of the trucks that need to go there. Which is the reason why it’s no parking. Exactly. It’s not just you need to access it, you need to access it with these large vehicles that can’t get to It. That Right. And that’s why I brought the pictures of the vehicles. ‘cause you know, luckily you don’t see them out very often. Yeah. But, you know, uh, Well if you had self-evident signage, you know,

1:48:57 they could, they could underscore why it’s so important to keep it clear. That might help people to, uh, think twice. So that would be another thing. We, we’d have to come to someone to approve our signs going on a public way. But we actually, I do, um, you know, I do think they would be a great learning spot too, to throw a, a sign up that just a thought says this is A up station. Yeah. No one likes the word sewer, but me, I found out. But a wastewater station,

1:49:26 A great opportunity for access Station To take this, uh, story up. Yes. We are always happy to talk about sewer anytime. Pretty darn important. Pretty darn important. Yeah. Uh, so I will leave the, uh, handouts. Those, those are really, those are really great. Thank you. Great Presentation and thank you very thank you for Taking us on such a busy night. Oh, you bet. Thank you for waiting. Appreciate it. Alright, next on our agenda is, uh, the holiday hours, which happens every year. So I’m gonna go ahead and, uh, just entertain a motion to approve the following holiday hours for Abbott Hall and the Mary a Alley building Monday, December 18th, regular hours 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Tuesday, December 19th, regular hours 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Wednesday, December 20th,

1:50:14 regular hours 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM Thursday, December 21st, 8:00 AM to 12:30 PM Friday, December 22nd. Closed all day. Uh, Christmas Eve falls on Sunday, Monday, December 26th. Close all day for Christmas. Uh, the holiday Tuesday to 27th, regular hours 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Wednesday, December 28th, regular hours 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM Thursday, December 29th, 8:00 AM to 12:30 PM Friday December 30th. Closed all day because New Year’s falls on this Friday. And then Monday, January 1st, 2024, closed all day, new Year’s Day. I move second. All those in favor? Unanimous. So

1:51:01 Let Me, oh yes, sure. Just Touch base a few things. So again, this is part, um, in under collective bargaining contracts, they get the, the holiday off and the eve off. So it’s trying to address that there are some functions that are not closing. And so there, there are some deviations. Um, so for example, the transfer station needs to be open on Friday. ‘cause there is still trash pickup. The commercial haulers are still using it. So there’s employees that’ll, you know, have to work on the Friday to address that. Any employees that aren’t able to take advantage of the day off, uh, get a floating holiday, um, or overtime depending on the circumstances. And that’s, that’s handled by the department heads to,

1:51:48 to sort those needs out. So, uh, there are, this is closes those two buildings, that’s pretty easy and straightforward, but there are other, other functions that do function on the designated days that we’re saying as a holiday. So, Good stuff. All right. Thank you. Thank you. The next, uh, item is a donation account for Rec and park, uh, rec and Parks department. And it doesn’t look like, now, typically my understanding is donation accounts are, are, you know, specifically for a targeted use. Um, it’s, it’s not described here, but presumably Street, Green Street, it’s on the, it’s in the motion. I

1:52:34 Path, I Okay. Okay. Fair enough. I I missed that. I’m sorry. Yeah, sorry. Okay. So it’s basically to, uh, to maintain the, that’s great. Okay. Any other color on that Or, yeah, no, I mean, it’s standard practice to set up, um, when we’re requested, when, when donations are coming in for, for calls like this. So for financial accountability, um, it’s power of the board to establish the account and then our finance people manage it from there. Okay. Like Interation to approve the request from Peter James, superintendent Recreation and Parks department establish a donation account for the Green Street Woods Bike Path donations will be used for any need to repairs and upgrades from the product. So move second. All those in favor? Okay. Unanimous.

1:53:20 Oh, we’ve got a student rep who, um, is interested in serving on the task force against discrimination. She’s got a letter here. Her name is Rebecca Herve Lorenzo. Um, and she’s not here tonight. Mm-Hmm. Or online? No, this is a letter of in, This is a letter of interest. Okay. Can we invite her next meeting? Yeah, that’s a a good idea. Actually. Vacation, typically that’s vacation. Typically we do school vacation for her. Mm-Hmm. So we can, yeah, we can do the coordination. Yeah. With, I’m not sure what the, Maybe we can, maybe she, she can go through the chair. Uh, I think that’s of the task force. Lock to lock down a time. Good? Yep. Okay, good.

1:54:06 Uh, this, uh, next is Marblehead Fire Department surplus equipment. Um, the following items? Yep. If you wanna we’ll go, go right ahead, Patrick. Please, please. So this is part of the effort. Um, we’re preparing Mary Alley for the, the floor project and, and, and, and such that we’ve talked about in the past. Um, I, I have reported that that, that the flooring and the closing of the building for those days was eminent, well, eminent turned to spring, so it’s less eminent than we originally thought, but we’re, we’re coordinating all of that. But as we’re, as we’re, um, and, and, and Chief Gilland has been sort leading the effort to to, to organize the logistics. Part of what we’re doing in Mary Alley during this,

1:54:53 before that project starts is to clean out anything we can to, to clean out the building, create more space, have less stuff that we have to move out and move back. Um, this is requesting the surplus of antiquated floor safes. These are the big giant safes, um, that we’re absolutely necessary in the 1880s, uh, whatever. But they’re hogging up a lot of floor space. They’re being used in a lot of cases as file cabinets, but they’re big ginormous metal safes. Uh, we’re gonna surplus ‘em. See if there are takers that are willing to, to take them and move them for scrap metal is probably the best use. Um, if they’re not taking, we’re coordinating with a rigor

1:55:42 that’s gonna come and safely remove. ‘cause these things heavy weigh tons, uh, to safely move ‘em out over the floors and get ‘em out of our building before we go to the next phase of this project. No sentimental value to them, huh? Not much value in the market. If You want one, we’re happy to deliver it to your house. A renovation. It’d be perfect. It would be perfect. Yeah. You gotta go right through the floor.

1:56:08 So, um, so we’re requesting for the authorized in the surplus thing that we’ll put ‘em out and post them. Uh, they have to be posted for two weeks if there are no takers and a minimum of two weeks and we can dispose of as we see fit. Okay. With that, I’d like to entertain a motion to declare the following items of surplus and no longer needed for municipal purpose. So they may be disposed of in accordance with the town’s policy on surplus equipment. Six antiquated floor safes located at the Mary Alley municipal building and one antiquated floor. Safe located at aal. No. Move. All those in favor all. And that brings us to our public comment period. If there’s anybody who would like to make public comment. Mr. Ssen vote. Is that on?

1:56:55 Can you just verify it’s on Jim? I think it is.

1:56:59 It’s on now. Agreed. Yeah. Uh, Jim’s just two mom road. I was, uh, thrilled to hear the discussion about the charter. I think that’s really positive. I think the thought of maybe bringing someone in from the Collin Center is great. Um, and I think many of you know, the legal woman voters has spent about a year just researching it and has a lot of research material to, to share. And, um, it is complicated. And that group has, has gone through and kind of gone through a lot of things and found towns that have recently adopted them. And, um, they usually are, you know, kind of at least the first pass writing down what’s, you know, been going on and kind of codifying within the bounds of the bylaws in state laws. And, and a lot of times, like Thatcher,

1:57:45 when he was up in Amesbury, the city level, same thing. They detailed things that fit within the state law, but then as mentioned earlier, uh, are uh, molded to a particular town, which is good. And the other thing is there’s always, uh, tradition is good and things move slow in Marblehead and that’s okay. And there’s always a lot of hand wringing ‘cause it’s new. But as has been said, the control is town meeting. You have to bring something that’s gonna pass a town meeting. In the example I always give, uh, well not always give, but I follow. So, uh, different politics around. And, and SGAs is one of them, which is full contact politics. Not, not the model you necessarily wanna follow, but the select board chair decided in the past year, he wanted to change SGAs to a city and become the mayor.

1:58:33 And suffice to say that failed. So, you know, that’s what you don’t want to do. And, but you know, there’s examples of, you know, just, I mean, the type of things that might be considered, um, the Board of Health is gonna bring, uh, uh, an article to tell me to increase their board size to five. That might be something that a charter committee would talk about and maybe bring, you know, that, that level of thing. So, uh, anyhow, thank you. It’s a long process. Uh, it’d be great to get the call in center in, and I know the legal woman voters has, uh, a lot of information to share. Has done a lot of, uh, digging. ‘cause it’s, uh, it’s a complex subject. Thank you. It’s great. Nathan tha thank you. Yes, please. Albert Jordan, 64 Roosevelt Avenue, um, Smith Street and Baldwin Road.

1:59:20 Um, there’s been a double telephone pole there since the brown school was built. This truck’s hitting it all the time. It’s getting shaved. Wow. It blocks the traffic light, the right traffic light. There’s accidents there every month. I don’t know why anyone doesn’t have any common sense to take that out of there. Um, but, and when pedestrians go to the brown school, it used to be the Bell School, they come out and they stand on the sidewalk and it’s a double pole and you can’t see the kit if there’s one kid standing there, it’s a double pole right next to the crosswalk. If the kid ever goes when the light turns red. ‘cause most people don’t stop on right on red there, they whip around the corner. And we just had that fatality. And if I, I’m in the left lane going straight

2:00:05 to stay on Pleasant Street heading inbound, I see the light turn yellow, I step on my brake and a car will go in the right lane and go straight. And like I say, when you go down that right lane, if there’s car in the right lane, you can’t see that lower traffic light because it’s blocked by the double pole. Um, I’ve gone down to the electric light. They took it under advisement, but apparently it’s a Verizon pole. But the main entrance, uh, the main issue is Verizon. I don’t know if you’re aware above it, they’re gonna replace 400 poles in Marblehead in a year. And, uh, I, they used to come in front of this board from Saugus and get permission from you. I haven’t seen anything going on, but the electric light knows about it. There’s no way they’re gonna replace 400 poles in a year. Um, I hope they’re not gonna put all these poles up

2:00:53 and then leave ‘em there for 10 years to rewire ‘em after, because the electric light’s doing that on Village Street. And they got on the school side of Village Street up by Kenny Steadman’s house. They got double poles that no one can use the sidewalk that with mobility issues got. So you got double pull and the electric light in the town’s doing it. And it’s been that way for months. But I’ve gone down and made them aware of that. I thought they’d start it during the summer while the school was closed because on the other side of Village Street, there’s big trees in the sidewalk. So people with mobility issues, if someone was in a wheelchair, I mean, it, it’s a street that, you know, they come out the, the, uh, railroad bridge and stuff. You want to be able to use the sidewalks during a school. But this 400 pole thing, someone should be on top

2:01:41 of it before they come in. It’s like how the gas company digs around town now. It’s wintertime, they’re leaving up on Turner Road, they’re leaving equipment on a corner. All now I’m waiting for someone to hit this stuff. We, we just had a serious accident down by the National Grand that, I don’t know how they did it, but they took the fence out on the sidewalk in front of the National Grand and they took the traffic light down. It’s just a miracle gut. No one got killed down there. But I mean, we need to like, use some common sense around here. So before these contractors come in and do things, they shouldn’t be tying up the road for months. I’ve never seen that done in this town before. And I go to other towns and I don’t see the equipment being sit there for months with a little rubber cone and a backhoe sitting on the corner of a road. Um, it shouldn’t be there for months.

2:02:27 It, and then the neighbor across the street parks there at night. So you can’t get two cars at once sometime because he’s got a big truck with mirror sticking out and you got a backhoe, a compressor, and piles of sand. And it’s wintertime. I mean, I just don’t know why these contractors, they never left the stuff here before, but we should just look at some common sense in this town. You know, why don’t we want to give people a break? But what are we gonna wait until someone gets killed? We already had the fidelity, you know, down by the railroad bed again. So, so we want the traffic light so people can see them. Because even if you have two, they might not stop, but at least give them a chance to see the things and not let, let Verizon, we should be before we give any more permits. We used to have ‘em come in here if they weren’t filling their trenches and uh,

2:03:14 before we’d give ‘em another permit they would have to rectify. But this pole’s been there at least three to four years. And, um, it’s blocking the traffic light when you go down the lane. You can see when the light changes visibility when you’re in certain spots there, you can’t even see the light. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank, thank you very much. Anybody online? Uh, I don’t see any Hands raised if no one is Alright.

2:03:44 Town administrator update. Sure. Thank you. Couple quick updates. Uh, one, uh, in the police department we have a, an unexpected vacancy. Uh, officer Luke Marcus has submitted his resignation, uh, effective December, um, 16th. Um, so our, our plan is to keep police staffing levels in, in line with the department’s needs. Um, we’re looking to post the position first as a lateral transfer to see if, um, there are any qualified officers from other communities that are interested in transferring to Marblehead. Uh, the advantage there is the coming in trained and certified and, and ready, ready to go. Um, so we’re gonna try that posting for a while, see

2:04:32 what, uh, is available. And then if, uh, if there’s no no takers in that, then we’ll go through the process with civil service to post, uh, to run the list. And that would, that would involve the board to as part of that process. So, um, we’ll, we’ll see how that works over the next many weeks. Um, the second item, pre ambulation, anybody knows, uh, what that is? So that’s a, actually a state law, uh, for the locating market of town boundary markers. And, um, so, uh, it’s been in place since, uh, I don’t know, late 16, early 17 hundreds, the requirement at least every five years that the,

2:05:20 using the term of the, the law, the selectmen, at least two selectmen walk the boundaries of the community. And usually this is coordinated with the surrounding communities and, and, uh, to, to make sure that the boundaries marking the, the lines are, are still there. So that’s, that’s a requirement. And Marblehead in the past, it’s been mostly used for, um, the ways for, for yeah. Of maintaining the, the public ways down to the water. Uh, to the water. Um, the, um, uh, who is it? The, uh, conservatory has been traditionally been doing the perambulations. Uh, they’re not able to to to do that. So working with Becky, we’re looking to initiate that, uh,

2:06:07 in-house, um, for this spring. So what I’ll probably do is ask Becky at the next meeting or, or upcoming meeting to give a little presentation with a plan. Uh, I think typically it’s the Saturday after town meeting is been the traditional date, but we’ll, we’ll, we’ll organize it and make it official as to when we look to do it. So, um, it, it’s, it’s, it’s part of the law, but also a wonderful tradition of, of New England, uh, to do that. So have your boots ready for Ambulation. Yeah. Needs to, yeah. It’s, uh, yeah. Yeah. I did my It makes sense. It makes sense now. Yeah. Betty Hunt, Don Dover used to do it and one would go on the neck, the other one would kind

2:06:52 of go down around the old, and then I remember when I was on the board the first go around and Harry Christiansen did what I did the other, and it was great to spend some time with Betty Hunt, but, but we’ll help find some new people to do it now. Yes. Yep. So, Awesome. Right. That it pending Any questions? That’s all I have. Thank you, Thatcher. Uh, we’ve come to select board announcements if anybody has anything.

2:07:16 No, I first, well, we have two of the three here. I’d like to thank, uh, Amy, chief Gilland and Chief King. So we had a Menorah lighting, uh, last Thursday, first annual one, hopefully. Uh, but y’all did a great job, uh, preparing us for, Uh, A very calm event that could have been different, but yes, it was great. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Yeah, it was a very special event. Uh, we, we were there. It was, uh, pretty, pretty amazing, uh, the first Meno public memorial lighting, and we owe that to you, Jim, for, for opening up your, uh, your parking lot there and, and, and housing the menorah. So, you know, well done. Good event. Yep. Thank you.

2:08:06 Okay. And, uh, do I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second. Second. All right. We’re hereby adjourned.