Board of Health: October 19, 2020

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0:01 Call the meeting to order. Welcome everybody. Let’s first just do the minutes of October 6th. I don’t think there were too many issues with those. I thought they were perfect. Yep. So do you have a motion to approve? So moved. And Michelle’s second. Andrew? Ms. Gottlieb? In favor. Ms. Hazeltt? In favor. Dr. Velfbecker? In favor. All right, minutes done. So the next item on the agenda is our standard COVID update. Andrew? All right, so we released the Marblehead case reporting today. We are now at 287 confirmed cases, which is up just two cases over last week. But I want to talk about the case reporting a little bit. So we get a lot of confusion about our weekly case report and the state’s weekly case report. So ours comes out on Wednesday, on Mondays, and is just the increase of cases over last week. The state’s report on Wednesday is a 14-day average. So you cannot compare the two apples to apples. We get a lot of confusion over this. And what I’m thinking is that I’m actually considering changing

1:33 our day of reporting to Thursday. And I’m choosing Thursday because it would be the state’s report for Wednesday comes out at 6 p.m. or slightly after that sometimes. So it would be a little bit more in line with the reports. The school is looking to do some reporting on case reports also, but theirs wouldn’t come out until sometimes, I believe, on Friday. So I’m trying to bring them all together a little bit and make them so they’re not all separated out. Yes, the states will still be a 14-day average. But for instance, last week, we now became a yellow community. And so today, when I put out the new case report of only two increased cases and we did the code red, it’s kind of creating some confusion. Now, obviously, everybody has to remember that these are only cases that are reported due to testing and that there could be additional cases out there in the community that we are not aware of, especially asymptomatic cases, which we’re seeing quite a few of these days. So people are testing, being tested because of travel or contacts, and sometimes are coming up positive and having no symptoms. So for those various reasons, I’m definitely

3:03 considering changing my reporting to Thursday afternoon. Does anybody have any comments or concerns about that? I’m obviously going to talk to Tracy about this in the morning also, just to make sure that she doesn’t have any issues with that. But I think it might help to align some of the reporting. I think if it will alleviate confusion, then it definitely makes sense. Okay. Can I ask a question though? Do you think that we should go to the 14-day average to be in sync with the state? If we were to do that, we wouldn’t report, we just let the state report. We would just push out the state’s report on Thursday. Your report is accurate as well as we can do for the town itself and that’s it. And the state’s the same way. So I mean, we could talk about, is it even worth our while to push out this case report? It gives a little bit, obviously, with our report now, you can see last week’s numbers compared to this week’s. Yeah, there’s a 14-day average, ours is just cases. We also include in our case report, the travel advisory. You can find that on the state website. It’s not necessarily in the report that they release. Do you think that it’s, how much work is it that someone asked you to do? Like in hours? Oh, so literally it’s probably about an hour. Well, and that’s not so. Yeah, we literally go into Maven, go into the reporting feature, pump out all the reports for

4:39 the week and then, you know, talk about the cases, making sure that we’ve captured everything, making sure that we don’t have any holdovers from last week and then push the report out. What people also get confused by is that the difference between isolation and quarantine. So if you are a positive case and under isolation, you may only be under isolation for 10 days, as long as you have no symptoms and no fever. A quarantine, meaning that you’re a contact of a case is 14 days. And this is from the date of the test. So it takes a couple of days to get the test results. I go back to the day you took the test. So people are also wondering how come in a week people can drop off. And it’s very possible due to the way it works out that, you know, I have, when I actually captured the case, it was, you know, at least four days old. And so I’m able to get rid of the cases in a week time. So we’ll try to explain some of that too. But I’ll talk to Tracy about it a little bit more and think about it more. We just had a lot of confusion today about the numbers this week versus last week and the states reporting on Wednesday. If you use the numbers from today, would we still be in yellow? So I have to do the 14-day average. So I have to look back two weeks. Yes. You have to use the states 14-day average.

6:10 Yeah. To see what we’re in. I think it bears repeating that if you are a contact and you have to quarantine for 14 days, that’s whether or not you have a negative test. That’s correct. So there’s been, I had discussion over the weekend with a doc that was arguing with me about the 10 days versus the 14 days. We were like talking about two different things. Correct. Saying if he sees a patient that has been, that was tested and they were 10 days out, he would see them in his office. And I don’t know whether that’s accurate or not, but I said we’re going by 14 days so that you have to quarantine. I would have to know all the information what you’re talking about. You know, was it a positive patient? All right, but it seems that there’s even among professional people, there’s some discussion. All we have to do is worry about our community right now. So also with that, we did release the code red this evening. It came out at six o’clock. This was an important message from the Marblehead Health Department. Last week, the town of Marblehead entered the moderate risk category established by the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. In order for the town of Marblehead to keep its case count low and stable, we must remain vigilant. The comprehensive COVID-19 weekly public health report, which includes community specific COVID-19 case and testing date,

7:43 is released every Wednesday evening at 6 p.m. This report includes a risk category for each city and town based on the average daily incident rate over the past 14 days. So I’m trying to capture that, you know, make, you know, educate people on the differences of the two. Sometimes it’s not as easy as I think it is. As holidays approach, please review holiday guidance documents that we posted on the town website. We’ve posted a guidance document for Halloween. Items will be listed based on risk activities, low, medium, and high. Examples include low risk, carving pumpkins and watching Halloween movies, moderate risk, modified trick-or-treating, and high risk, indoor costume or Halloween parties. As always wear a mask when you are unable to social distance yourself. Wash your hands, keep your distance, don’t share food, drink, or utensils. Stay home if you feel sick and check for your symptoms and get tested. Protect yourself, your family, and your community. Don’t let up. Please continue to act responsible for our neighbors, our students, and our businesses. We are all in this together. So obviously that went out tonight. You know, obviously it goes out to over, I think it’s like 13,000 telephones. We also send out an email and a text message. The text message, because I’m only allowed 640 characters, I have to condense it down quite a bit and often push you to the

9:14 town website to make sure you read the whole statement. On the town website, does it say that the town is yellow or green or red or whatever the town is? It does not. That’s probably a good place to put it. Yeah, so we can we can talk about that or we can try to figure that in. So in our weekly report, or we can create a dashboard there maybe. There’s so much information on the mass.gov page. We also also want people to be going to that page because there’s so much information on case reports. Stop the spread. Do you need so, you know, different services? There’s a huge amount of information. So stop COVID-19. State guidance for municipalities. COVID-19 travel order. Return to school safely. Mass.gov. Find food help. Stop the spread. Reopening Massachusetts. Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency. Unemployment. Department of Transitional Assistance online portal. Emergency child care site. So when you go to mass.gov, there’s an enormous amount of additional information there. So people should be going to our website, mass.gov website, additionally. And is there a link to mass.gov on our website? I don’t think there is, Todd, to tell you the truth. So that’s something that we can take a look at too. We did have a meeting and talked about cases across of Massachusetts and where we’re

11:00 seeing cluster cases the most. So the primary area for cluster cases currently is at home, which would be all to be, so a cluster is two or more cases, essentially. And the reason why we’re seeing them in the homes predominantly is because, you know, obviously you have a family and you’re unable to socially distance yourself from others or you’ve already spread it to other family members and we’re considering that a cluster. The other area of high concern is intramural sports. And that has to do with travel to the sports, carpooling with other families, and some of the guidelines around that. So the state is going to try to work on additional guidelines for carpooling and other items around intramural sports. Intramural means within the community. So yeah, intramural is essentially, you know, non-high school sports. Most of the sports currently are non-travel based, but yeah, just not at the high school level or school sponsored. Town run or other youth groups that run them. Correct. But within the community. Yep. But obviously, you know, the cases of Massachusetts are going up, the cases across the country are going up, you know, and obviously we have this fear of this resurgence and what’s it going to look like again this winter.

12:32 Like, you know, like we’ve said in the past, everybody has to try to do their part to maintain social distancing, wear a mask, and really be vigilant about if you’re not doing well, take yourself out, get tested, and see what the problem is. And that’s it for my COVID update. Thank you. Should we talk about town meeting next item on the agenda? Do you want to go, Todd? I mean, Andrew, would you want me? Yeah, sure. I’ll go. So I was very pleasantly surprised with the outcome to town meeting. I had to arrive there super early to do some setup stuff. I was only anticipating maybe 50 or 100 people. We had a giant tent. It was behind or right next to Seaside or Seaside Nursery School in the parking lot. We had a tent that could fit over 300 people and the tent was full. To the point where we had some people on the outskirts of the tent still participating. So he got incredible, you know, participation for town meeting, which was great. We had two large items, the blue light for winter parking, which passed, and then a large discussion and a non-passing of the leaf blower. So with the leaf blower, Buck Rader presented for his wife, Beth Grader, presented the article. I think, you know, one of the issues that I had with

14:04 the presentation was that they focused on the blowing rather than truly on the noise. And yes, they concentrate on both, but they should have really just been concentrating on the noise because in my mind, both the electric and the gas powered unit are going to blow the same amount of dust everywhere. They’re still pushing dust up into the air. Yes, the gas engine is emitting more particulates because of the emissions, but you have to be careful when you’re talking about that. So if that comes back, that would be my suggestion. Very close. I believe it was 121 to 111. The other things that I was a little disappointed with was that Buck Rader said that it was, you know, I had drafted the article. We had drafted an original article. Some of the items were changed, separation between leaf blowers. So at that point, it really becomes their article, but they still considered it my article, which I was not too thrilled about, but there’s not really much you can do that. But there was a lot of good debate about it. Ultimately, what happened was that somebody, I forget what the term is, is that essentially the term was that they called the vote immediately. So no more discussion and the vote had to take place. So rather than having this back, they called the question. They called the question. Yeah. So they had to take the vote immediately.

15:35 And so that’s what happened. Well, but don’t, but we, you missed one thing that Todd Norman wrote for it to be indefinitely postponed. And that’s what passed. They never voted on the, on the original motion. No, I think I thought the indefinite post-phonement got voted down. And then the, the, the real vote for, Tom, you want to fill it? John, I’m pretty sure it’s the other way around. Yeah. It was indefinitely postponed. So it was definitely postponed. They were just the two votes. One, the first vote to call the question. You had to vote to call the question. The body has to vote to call the question. Then they voted that Todd Norman had written to indefinitely postponed it. And that’s what passed. So it’s been indefinitely postponed and we’ll see to that. Now, I, if you want me to just, Yeah, I believe Beth Grader will bring it back up at the next down meeting. You do? Yes. So a couple of things that I, that I had difficulty with. But great. I said that, that what they repeated as Andrew said was his, were his words. It was a working document that, that, that Andrew had given us as the Board of Health that he used. So it really was not anybody’s document, but the Board of Health’s document. So I, I didn’t want to, you know, correct him in front of the group, but it didn’t, he mentioned it to

17:09 try and give it some, some leverage. I had spoken with him and I had, and spoke with Andrew after I spoke with him. And I said to Andrew, I think I’m going to just hold our statement until someone asks what the Board of Health says. And Andrew allowed for that. And so they had their own discussion for about 45 minutes, I think, wasn’t it? So I just want to tell the people that weren’t, my board members that weren’t there, that I did not read the statement. It wasn’t necessary. I think I wanted them to just get the sense of the, of the community. If I had read that, when, when the moderator laid things out, he said that the people that are, the officials would speak first. And if I read our statement first, that would have been the end of the discussion because the Board of Health said that they were not in favor of the article. So I held it and talked with Andrew in the middle and I even went to the chair of the Board of Selectmen and she said that she felt that that was fine too. So that’s what happened. And then 29 and 30, we knew that that was going to be withdrawn. And before we went to the meeting, you had told all of us, Andrew, is that correct? From what I gather? 29 and 30, the other two articles were withdrawn before we went to town meeting. Yes, that’s correct. But I wanted to say that they were withdrawn for a good reason

18:44 because they agreed with our thoughts that they were working well with the Board of Selectmen and they are going to work further with them. And there was, they didn’t feel the need for the article to be voted on because of that. They weren’t, they didn’t withdraw it just because they didn’t have support or they changed their mind or anything. It was because they are working with the selectmen on it. Okay. Is that any questions Michelle about town meeting or I’m clear. All right, Elaine, you had a reopening committee meeting this morning? Yes, we had a pretty lengthy reopening committee meeting and everyone, every department, every principal spoke about what’s been going on with the transition from remote to hybrid. They also talked about the listening sessions. Each school was having a listening session with parents and they had a few last week and they’re having the rest of them this coming week. There’s one tonight, tomorrow night, I think, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So they’re all, and they feel that those listening sessions are working very well. They also, each school gave their own little report about the transition, but generally the transition from remote to hybrid is going well. That’s how one

20:19 principal stated they feel that the remote days need to make some changes. One said that they needed to be more robust. So that was a comment and they generally feel that everything is going in the right direction. One thing that was stated by the chairman of the school committee is that she’s hearing from parents that the middle school age children are having the most difficulty and there was agreement. They’re having trouble having a hard time organizing remotely and they need to work on that. So I guess they have to give them some guidance on how to organize. They talked about, they say that the rumor mill in the town of Marblehead is very rapid. So if something happens, it flies through the school town, the parents’ student body very quickly. But they were talking about a longer day and about, they’re saying they’re just getting used to this longer day, but the high school and middle school may look at a longer day at the end of the quarter. So nothing’s going to happen right now, but I

21:54 guess that’s what the rumor mill is talking about. I don’t know if the people with, like you and Andrew, kids in school, others are hearing these things, but it seems that that’s what people are saying. It seems like the lunches are the most difficult now that people are going inside. And they’re also having trouble juggling the teachers to eat lunch, because the teachers space to eat lunch is very small, so they’re dividing the faculty into groups so they can have their space to have lunch. I think that that, or the cafeteria at the high school is being used for classes, and there are 60 desks in there. So they can use some of that space for lunch, and they have some outdoor seating with picnic tables. I don’t know how long they’re going to do that. And they’ve got the tents up there now, so there’s some coverage, but when it’s cold, it’s cold. I think we all know that. The most interesting thing up to where I am now is that the North Shore Superintendents Roundtable was last Friday, and 100% of the superintendents are using a six-foot distancing. And that was a big discussion in the summer about the deskie and the three feet, and it seems that all the superintendents are comfortable and in favor and in using the six feet.

23:31 And the superintendent said that he feels right or wrong that deskie’s three-foot standard was really a minimum. And I don’t, when we read it, we didn’t read it that way, but the bottom line is that the six-foot distancing goes across the entire North Shore. Now, the next thing that came up was a health and safety committee, and he’s putting a committee together. The superintendent, Mr. Bucky, and he mentioned that he had been in touch with Andrew. He was in touch with Andrew over the weekend. When I called Andrew about it today because I was kind of fuzzy on it, because Mr. Bucky showed a half a dozen slides with probably 200 to 300 words on each page, and I certainly couldn’t read them as fast as he was flipping them. And he wants to put a committee together with himself, the Board of Health, with Deanna McMahon, who was the head nurse, and an epidemiologist. He said a physician and an epidemiologist, and he wants to put this committee together mostly to talk about the matrix. Is that correct, Andrew? You want to stand on that? That’s correct. He also would like to have a public health professional on this health and safety advisory committee. Yeah, but you’re the public health professional. No, I’m just the director of public health. That’s all? Yeah, I mean, you know, not that’s all, but that’s, you know, these are the six people that he would like to have

25:06 on this committee. Yeah, I saw that, but I felt I was one in the same, but it’s not. So, what basically is he hoping to gain out of this? So, you know, they’re trying to establish a health matrix that by following the matrix would decide if you were, so green, yellow, and red. So green, would be in-person learning, yellow would be a hybrid learning, and a red zone would be remote learning. Now, and then so, you know, you have, you’d establish this matrix, but you know, you could use, you know, would you be looking at the seven day average, the 14 day average for Marblehead, as well as, you know, what are the surrounding communities at? And you would possibly pool all this information, and that would generate numbers. So, if you were less than 400,000 people, you would be in the green. If you’re between four and eight per 100,000, you would be in the yellow. And if you’re greater than eight per 100,000, and these are positive cases, then you would be in the red. Now, my understanding is that that’s what the state was trying to do, is create a matrix. So that always counts, and I have to create a matrix. Now, there’s a lot of disagreement about the state’s matrix, because it’s based on a 14 day, and we’ll see it, because what’s going to happen to us is that you can jump almost every week to a different color, potentially. And so,

26:42 in one week, you could be in school, the next week you could be, you know, out of school, the following week you could be back in school, and then the next week you could be totally remote. So, Destiny’s trying to say, hey, that’s not the greatest thing for learning, you know, why can’t we look at a little bit different averaging? And so, I think that’s going to be a lot of the discussion, which is going to be very difficult. So, you know, to me, if the numbers are screaming that we got an issue, you got to pull the kids out. But at what point do you decide to put them back in, and you know, so that’s going to be a lot of the discussion. Obviously, there’s going to be additional information on where are the cases occurring, are they occurring in school, are they occurring outside of school at other locations. And so, a lot of different information is going to have to be gathered. And, you know, at times, I’m always frustrated with the state, rather than, you know, they’re trying to say, oh, this is all local control. It would be great if the state could really say, this is what you need to do top down. This is what is best. We’ve pulled all our great resources of all our top physicians and all our top public health people from the state, and we’ve just created a matrix, and this is the matrix for each town and city to use. Rather than pushing it to the towns and cities and be like, you guys figure it out. And now, we’re stuck in this argument of, you know, well, why did you do this? Why did you do that? So, it becomes very challenging. So, that’s the idea with creating this matrix of, you know,

28:17 in-person, hybrid, remote. How long do they, is this committee going to work? It must be very short-lived in order to make a decision. I would think it’s going to have to be very short-lived, but, you know, he’s still missing three people on the committee. He’s still missing the doctor, the epi, and the public health expert. You know, I don’t know who those people would be. But I’m sure in this community, you can get them pretty quickly. Michelle? Yeah, you guys, I’m sorry. My internet is down, like, every five seconds, so I’m missing, like, words here and there. I don’t even know if you can hear me. But just going back to the six-foot distancing, Helene, you had said that we, you made a comment that about us not, about the three-foot rule and Desi, and you said something that we didn’t see the three-foot rule, our interpretation of the three-foot rule. And I just wanted to clarify. When we read that Desi’s approach on that, I think we did see, we did interpret Desi’s three-foot rule as a minimum. I think that was our interpretation, and I think we were also in keeping with. When I said that, it was the superintendent saying that he felt that Desi’s was the minimum, that the three-foot was the minimum. It was his,

29:53 I was quoting the superintendent. Okay. Because he made that statement today. Yeah, which, right, which is, yeah, and I think, okay, and that’s what the Desi guidelines did say, is that in there, you know, it does say that the three-foot, the three-foot is possible, but not ideal. I think that that was the correct interpretation, you know, that the three-foot, if needed, could be interpreted as possible. But no, you know, I don’t think, and I think that’s why all these superintendents chose for the six-foot rule. But of course, we’ve been seeing a lot of pushback from, you know, a fair amount of pushback from certain members of the community that are looking to say, you know, we want to see, we want to see that six-foot number reduced down to three feet. But it’s good to see that the superintendents are all aligned around that six-foot rule. And the hard thing for the three-foot is that we use six-foot everywhere. We use six-foot when we’re talking about social distancing. It’s in all the signs, the World Health Organization. I don’t know where the three-feet came from except for Desi. Well, the entire North Shore is in agreement. All right, so thank you, Andrew, for clarifying this Health and Safety Committee. And I guess we’ll hear more about that, whether it goes, it doesn’t go, or I imagine it’s going to go because the

31:24 superintendent has put a lot of effort into it. Were those his words or was that something, those documents that he took from someplace else because that was a lot of work? I want to say he might have taken some of these documents from Hamilton Wenham, who has, they’re in a slightly different category. So they’re a regional school system. So they were looking to create matrix of when their kids would be remote in person and hybrid. And because it was two towns, it wasn’t as clear if you’re looking at the state’s matrix online, which is the 14-day average that comes out every week. So because they’re a regional school, do they have to take a look at different matrix? Or could they make it as simple as, let’s just combine the two and divide by two and come up with the average? I’ve got a few more things that you might be interested in. I guess that the team sports are working very well, and the athletic director has been going down to see the practices and the games. And he is pleased that everybody’s wearing a mask. But what troubles him is he looks over and sees the basketball court with 20 kids without masks on, and he’s nervous that there might be an uptick. He stated that he wanted more messaging and that he didn’t see signs. I told them that we printed signs and they were all over town. And they now have

32:55 printed their own signs, like on just an eight by 11 and a half piece of paper that they’re going to put in all the parks and playgrounds. So I made sure they knew that we had been doing our job of putting some very attractive signage up. And then we heard from the facilities, and they’re doing a great job. He said the air purifiers are in, they have good circulation, the computers are working, and there is nothing that will keep the buildings from being opened. And they’ve gotten over 300 laptops for the teachers. And I didn’t catch the number of Chromebooks. It sounded like 240, but that’s a question mark for anybody who’s going to write that down. But their Chromebooks are ready to be handed out to the students that need them. So, and the most important thing is that there are no positive cases in the school system. There are some children that are being quarantined, and that’s because the parents are positive. But there are no cases of students except that they are being quarantined because of family members. And there are some problems with town sports with some cases, but nothing in the school sports. Now, I don’t know whether the town sports, the same kids are playing, and that sort of was a

34:27 void deal that I had because they said that the town sports seem to have a problem, but school sports don’t, but yet there are no, so I must have missed something, that there was no students. But basically, I heard in two different ways from the athletic director and from the public health nurse, from the school nurse, that the head nurse, that she, there are no cases. So that’s all that we need to know. And the food, the lunches and breakfast program is going to be free. This is, I think, terrific. It’s going to be free to anyone, not just for free and reduced lunch people. Any person, any, anyone, any student can have a free lunch through the end of June. It was until the end of the fiscal year, this calendar year, and now it’s going through June. So they started out with 50 lunches in the summer. They went up to 100, and now they, today they served 300, and they would be willing to serve as many as they, as they could. One last thing that they really wanted to push, because under the tent there’s going to be performance of the crucible. I didn’t get the dates, but they’re very excited that the students are going to be able to, high school students are going to be able to put on a theater production, and it will happen under the tent of the, it might be the tent up on the parking lot,

36:01 I’m not sure which, well maybe not, because they’ve got to go in and out of the building, but there’s two tents at the high school, and they were very excited about that. The principal, Dan Bough, was excited. They gave a big shout out, which I’m pleased about. The superintendent gave a huge shout out to Deanna McMahon. He feels that she’s been super, and that makes us proud because she’s one of us. She’s done a lot of work, and she, you know, leaves and everything she does. She’s, you know, very concerned about the students’ well, you know, well-being, the teacher’s well-being, so she is a very caring individual and is looking out for everyone’s best interests. I mean, without giving anybody a shout out, everyone’s working hard. Yeah. And I really, I really, I commended also the superintendent on being open and doing the right thing, so I think that he’s really trying to be open with the community, and he’s also trying to keep the lines of communication open with the Board of Health and the health director. And obviously with the food insecurities and the allowing of anybody to get a school lunch, the idea with that is that we don’t want anybody to go home hungry. We understand parents are under an additional amount of stress and extra work, and if it’s, you know, one less thing that you have to do by making your kids lunch, grab a lunch, you know, if it, you know, reduces the

37:33 amount of work that you have to do for that day, great, you know, and obviously, you know, that’s one of the ideas behind it also. It’s a terrific benefit. It’s also for the breakfast, too. Yeah. So a kid can pick up a breakfast, even if it’s a box of cereal, if they left the house without a breakfast. After all that, I’m finished. Thank you for the update and for continuing to go to these meetings. One other thing, when we’re meeting in two weeks, he had originally said that this was going to be our last meeting, and I think there’s too much going on, too many moving targets to, I think he didn’t say this, but he had said that this was our last meeting, and then at the end today, he said that we were going to meet in two weeks. Okay. Is there anything further, Andrew, about the schools at this moment? No, not at this point. So, Michelle, anything? No. Our last item is, there’s an account transfer station. Close an account, Andrew, will you get into that, please? Yeah. So we’d like to close out account 214, which is for ProQuip Golf USA. I just need a motion to close out that account. So moved. Second. Okay. All in favor? Ms. Hazlitt? In favor. Ms. Gottlieb? In favor. Dr. Balfecker? In favor. Any new business, anybody? Old business?

39:08 That was a lot of new business. Well, we don’t set up that meeting date. Yes, we have to set a meeting date. So, let’s see. Tuesdays from now is actually election day. Wow. So should we do… Can we do the Monday? Monday the 2nd. Does that work for everybody? Would you say November 2nd? Yeah. I think we should continue the two week. I don’t think we need to do one week at this moment unless anything changes. But two weeks is election day. So let’s do Monday the 2nd. Okay. Well, Andrew, will you get back to us about if you’re changing that reporting? Oh, yeah. I will definitely talk to you and notify you guys if I’m going to change the reporting. If you change it, would you change it for this Thursday or for 10 days from now? No, 10 days from now.

40:08 Okay. So obviously with the election, I’m also doing a lot of work around the election. We want to make sure that everybody’s safe. We want to make sure it’s a great event. We’re expecting… We’re unsure about the turnout, obviously, because we have a feeling there’s going to be a lot of mail-in ballots and stuff like that. But we’ve had several meetings and we’ll continue to meet just to make sure that we’re well organized and ready for anything that comes up. Would it be easier for you to meet on the 4th, Andrew, if there’s preparations on the 2nd or you should be okay? No, actually the 2nd is better. I need to leave all the days after the election open. So you got a lot of straight cleaning up to do after that. And obviously uncertainty of different events after the election. Yeah. Let’s hope that you’re aboard. Yeah. What do you… You never know what the political climate will be after the election. You mean you think people lose their positions? No. Okay. I guess we’ll have to speak offline. That went over my head. I thought I was political, but I guess I’m not. I went to Abbott Hall on Friday to drop my ballot off. And I went in the building and it was very nice. They had a little slot. You could put it in. You didn’t have to go into the town clerk’s office. But I saw the tape going in the hall all the way upstairs.

41:42 They’re going to have six voting booths on the 2nd floor. And they expect to be able to keep the people six feet apart as they wait on the stairwell. However, some of my family members went today and there was no line at all. They got right in. They didn’t have to wait on the stairs at all. Because the voting booths are set up in the auditorium.

42:11 Yeah. If everybody hasn’t seen Abbott Hall, everyone should take a look at Abbott Hall. It came out really nice. It’s a beautiful building. It always was. But they did a beautiful restoration. But yeah, we do have another meeting up there tomorrow to review voting for election day. But yes, we’re trying to space everybody out as much as possible and using the stairs and keeping everybody six feet apart. I thought it was great. We will have two precincts there. Oh, on election day. On election day, yeah. Can you just say where the other precincts are, please? So the other precincts will be at the Council on Aging or the Senior Center and the Temple of Manuel. But I don’t know which precincts go to which ones, unfortunately. It’s easily looked up, right? Yeah. Well, the same at the community centers, the same what, four and five, isn’t it? Or… John, you have to take a look at it. Okay. Two is at Abbott Hall, three and four at the community center and five and six at Temple of Manuel. Thanks, John. You’re welcome. Five and six. Well, I’ve already voted, so it doesn’t matter for me. The meeting after the next meeting, I just wanted to know if we could do Monday the 16th because I do have an engagement on both the 17th and 18th. Time with me, and then we’ll go right into after Thanksgiving.

43:44 Can you stop for a second? It’s making a lot of noise. Just stop for one second. I should be okay, but I have to have a little medical thing, so I should be okay. But if I’m not, I will let you know. But let’s plan on that. Okay. On the 16th, so… My second is 16th. Yes. But the second ends the 16th. Great. So if there’s no further business, do we have a motion to adjourn? I’ll make a motion to adjourn. The second? Second. Andrew? Ms. Golly? In favor. Ms. Daislet? Favor. Dr. Velfbecker? In favor. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, everybody. Have a good night.