Board of Health: August 13, 2025

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0:02 Good evening. It’s seven 30 on the 13th of August. And I’d like to open the, uh, meeting Board of Health this evening. We have an agenda. I don’t think there’s any major changes in the agenda that was printed. Um, as we’ve started all of our recent meetings,

0:27 I had hoped when I become chair, we could, public health would bubble up to be more informed. Um, but at any event, at at least we get a great report on the strike from our director. All right. So we are in the seventh week of the strike with Republic Services for collection of trash and recycling. Um, we’re not seeing any closure at this point. We don’t anticipate anything soon. Obviously, the two parties really need to come together and try to resolve this issue. Um, recently, uh, the mayor is sub meeting, including myself, uh, to talk about the strike and some of the issues associated with that as well as the governor has now become a little bit more involved.

1:13 Recently, the governor sent out a letter to the CEO of public Services expressing our concern of the duration of the strike, and essentially requesting that they try to mediate this and have, get everybody back to work, the mayors and that. There’s 14, 12, 12 communities that have signed onto a letter, um, that was also sent to the CEO, um, essentially saying the same thing. We need the two parties to come together. We need this resolved. This can’t continue. Yes, they’re able to try to collect all our trash as best possible, um, but they’re not meeting the, you know, the, the contract by not being able to pick up the recycle. Um, so that’s kinda where we are with that. Um, obviously schools a couple weeks away, um,

1:59 that’s the next big concern that we have. We wanna make sure that all the trash and all the recycling is able to be picked up from the schools. Um, so I’ve communicated to, uh, Republic Services asking that. They explained how they do that. Um, we’ve had a little communication about trying to begin a recycling pickup. Um, they actually indicated that they would be able to potentially begin recycling pickup now it’s gonna be an every other week collection. Um, but potentially that could begin on Monday. Now, what I want to ensure is gonna happen is that they’re ready for the schools. So teachers will be back in the classrooms next Thursday, and as soon as teachers are back in classrooms, um, trash recycling does begin to pile up there quite quickly.

2:46 Uh, and Republic needs to be on top of that. So we’re requesting that obviously they continue to focus on curbside collection of trash that give us how they’re gonna explain to us how they’re exactly, they’re gonna take care, care of the schools, so their operation when the schools open, as well as when the teachers are back. And then explain how they’re able to do those two things and then begin the collection of curbside recycling. Fair to assume that the schools are an entirely different type of truck? No. So, um, oh, they don’t load, like, no, so yeah, they’re not frontloading. Uh, a lot of the dumpsters are not front loading. Um, most of the schools have rear loading, uh, dumpsters for trash, and we’re always picked up by our curbside driver. Oh, okay. Um, they’re often picked up early in the morning. Um, so the drivers do not like

3:32 to be on school property when kids are there. Um, so they try to get there before school starts, um, which is often before their se 7:00 AM curbside collection kickoff or after school, sometimes after 3 30, 4 30 and stuff like that. When they’re done with their route, that’s when they’ll go to the schools. Now for the recycling, it’s a little bit of a mix. Um, it’s not the recycling truck curbside that often goes to pick up, uh, the recycling at the schools. It’s often another truck that comes into the community just to get that. Um, so we have to communicate and figure out, or they have to communicate to us how this is gonna take place, uh, to ensure all that stuff is handled. Mm-hmm. Um, as we continue to take a look at this, obviously, um, we’re continuing

4:17 to look at our curbside collection contract that will expire in September, 2026. Um, I’ve started to amass a lot of contracts. We’re looking at RFPs, so an RFPs request for proposal. Um, so we would put that out and get bids in from contractors. But by looking at all these different contracts, it’s gonna, giving us different ways that we can do this. So obviously you could stay with the standard, which is what we have today. So that would be regular collection with guys in the back of the trucks. Um, you know, you’d have a trash trucks, you’d have recycling trucks doing the exact same thing that we are today. Now we do need to talk about some regulations for recycling. Um, we have a little bit of a problem with the recycling material blowing around in town. And so what I’m gonna recommend to the board is

5:02 that we take a look at those regulations and make them very similar, or if not mimic the trash regulations. So all recycling would have to be in a barrel with a tight fitting lid, no more of the square toters with the open tops. Very often we see the material blowing down the street, or we get calls to say, Hey, my recycling’s blowing down the street. What are you gonna come and pick it up? Yeah. It’s not our responsibility. The truck drivers have the right to just leave it there. They’re not gonna be going around picking up. They’re only gonna take it from, you know, from those receptacles. Um, so that is something that we want to take a look at before, um, or at the same time as we’re looking at, uh, trash contracts. Um, the other thing that we’ll take a look at or, or put out in RFP for proposal is using automated trucks.

5:48 Obviously in our downtown district, our old town and stuff like that, we don’t not believe that automated trucks can work down there, but that can be a one day of collection in these areas of the older areas, tighter of streets that it’s collected, just the way it’s collected today. But in other areas like the Cliftons, a lot of the community areas have a big enough area where that automated truck could work. Again, you’re gonna have to standardize barrels. So we’ll also be getting prices for both trash barrels and recycling barrels. Now, with that, there’s a way to essentially finance those barrels over a longer period of time. You can get it 3, 5, 7, 10 financing for barrels. The idea is that by having barrels bought

6:34 by the whole community, you’re really reducing those costs, but you’re also gonna uniform 5, 7, 10, um, three years, five years, seven years, and 10 years to pay off for the barrels. Essentially, you want those barrels to last 10 years. Um, you’re also gonna take a look at, um, are there other ways that we can do recycling and, and actually having Republic try this every other week, recycling is a great way to do it. Um, we would say that people would be allowed to have 96 gallon barrels, which is like the largest curbside barrel out there, and hopefully, hopefully that can last for people for two weeks. But for those people that that can’t, um, I think a lot of people have gotten used to using the transfer station. A lot of people look at our great resource

7:19 and say, Hey, I can easily do this. And again, these are all things that are potential cost savers. Mm-hmm. So we wanna explore all these items as we know there is gonna be a large increase in this contract. Um, so yeah, we would, and again, as we talk about these things, we want people to give us some input. We’re gonna have meetings. We want people to come express their opinions. Hey, I’m concerned about this, I’m concerned about that. So we can try to answer those questions or try to figure out solutions to those questions. Is there a way that I, I have a, a delta to Salem and the, and the Marblehead. Yep. So I know how big that one is. Yes. Um, and it’s obviously not realistic for the old historic area. Correct. Yeah. So it, so it does work great in Salem being

8:05 every other week with that one. ‘cause it is so big. Yep. Is it a, a thought that in the historic area, that that might be every week because the barrels have be smaller Or, yes. I mean, those are the exact questions that we need to hear. Um, and that’s always been the kind of the question that we hear, um, from old and historic. Hey, those 65 gallon barrels don’t really work for me. Do you sell a 35 gallon? So yeah, we, we’ve been selling that 35 gallon recycling barrel for a long time to try to appease those people. Um, and so yeah, and you’d have to try to work through some of those issues to say, Hey, can we give you two 30 fives? Can we, you know, can we do every week collection for that area mm-hmm. Um, to make it work. And the, And, and that’s definitely something

8:50 that we will really consider. Yeah. I remember the town kind of sponsored the smaller ones. Were, were residents paying for those, the recycling Bins? Yeah. So residents have always been paying for the recycling bins. The way it works is that we buy ‘em at wholesale costs. Yeah. And we share that cost with them. So if we did a type fitting lid, and let’s say that we did not do the automated truck, we’d have, we do a similar being like, Hey, we need these type. It is a problem. Yeah. I lived in the historic district. It’s, it’s everywhere on a, it stinks. Yep. Um, so if we, they’d have to buy those if we weren’t using the automated. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So no matter what, we’ll continue to look at, uh, barrel contract. We have one now. We use a company called Re rig. Um, they make a really nice barrel.

9:36 Um, it’s a toter, so, um, it’s on wheels. The lid is attached to it. So again, when the guys dump your trash, they’re not losing the, the lid. They’re not having to chase the lid around. They’re have to put it back in, it’s attached to it. So when they put the barrel curbside again, after they empty it, it’s all together. Mm-hmm. Um, what we can also do is like occasionally things do get broken. Yeah. Um, we can get additional parts, so we can get additional wheels, we can get additional lids, and we can also make this part of the contract Yes. To say that the contractor, so, you know, in this case it would be Republic Services would be required to make these repairs and come out and do these repairs as needed. Yeah. I had one mine break, and that’s exactly, they actually had me call the actual company and they had to fix the next day. Yep. So it was

10:23 Like, so there’s a lot of different things that, you know, obviously we’re talking about 8,000, so it’s 8,000 homes is what we use as the number of homes that we service on a every week. Um, that means all the apartments, you know, so we service everything from single family up to a four family condo. So again, you know, we really want trash barrels buying those for residents. We’ll, yep. We would be looking Yep. For the, yep. We, we are looking at trash barrels for those as well. So you’re looking at buying trash barrels and recycling barrels, um, as a whole for the community. Um, and depending on which way we go, um, yes, we would be discussing all those items. Um, and for the recycling barrels, um, it’s a similar barrel to what we, um, sell now. So the Recycle Smart, um, is printed right on the lid.

11:11 Mm-hmm. Um, and it, so it tells you what recycling items are actually able to go in that bin. So it’s just a reminder. Mm-hmm. Um, they all do have a QR code or a, a scan bar code on it. Um, so technically you can track what’s going in. Um, if you’re using an automated truck, you can potentially track all the weights per household. Um, and so there can be a lot of information that that can come back to us. Um, I think sometimes it’s more about like, well, what are we gonna do with some of this information? Mm-hmm. Um, but yeah. And in a good way though, is like, if the barrel goes down the street, you can scan it and be like, oh, this is Mrs. Jones Barrel at 97 Smith Sheet. Mm-hmm. So, um, so those are all the things that we’re taking a look at. Again, we, we do want a lot of, um, public input.

11:59 Um, we can have a meeting kind of dedicated to these questions. Um, talking about, you know, again, we’re, we’re gathering up all these RFPs that have been put out, we’re contracts have been procured already. Um, and so we can have a meeting where we’re gonna talk about all these different R RFPs, the questions that we’re gonna ask, and we, again, we really want the public to, to give us some input, um, questions, concerns, all of that stuff. Yeah. I’d really like to build on that idea because mm-hmm. I mean, one of the few good things about the strike is that people have been complimentary, not only to you, but certainly to you. But o overall we have tried to communicate, and I think that has been a positive. Yeah. I would suggest that we think about that,

12:46 talk about the timing, but something mid-September to have a special meeting that, that we could actually send out either by the email addresses that you have, give people not just a one-liner agenda like this, but an agenda much more robust, but even maybe more important ask, give them an address to which to send questions. Yep. What, what would you like to see? And I, I think that, that, given Tom’s visibility in all of this, it would be great if the associates, the, the associate chair for waste management ran that chair, because I think you actually have generated credibility. You might as well, um, make it clear that the board in,

13:35 in support, uh, wants to hear, because it, it’s probably not gonna be perfect. Right. No matter what you do. And quite frankly, it’s probably a lot more complicated than most of us would ever have thought about, especially in a town like this. Now, you, you wanna start sending out, So the, so right now we’re gathering all the contracts. We’re looking at all, all the RFPs that have been put out there in the past. Right now, what we’ll be doing is that we’ll take a look at those contracts. Really what we’re trying to do is putting together those RFP questions. And so it comes down to we’re asking for a request for proposal to service the 8,000 homes in our community

14:20 on a weekly basis, or on a, you know, on every other for a regular trash recycling collection, similar to what we have now. So, you know, trucks, guys on the back who actually are picking up. And then we’re gonna ask the sec, the next piece of that RFP is we want a proposal for, um, doing an automated trucks for three quarters of the town, and one quarter of the town is gonna be in a tightly dense area, and that needs to be done with a regular, regular truck. Um, and you would continue to build on that. So yeah, we will build all these questions. And the idea is that by the mid-September, we would have essentially all these questions put together and we’d be able to at least kind of explain where we’re going and try to get as much feedback as possible. Now, I know the question’s gonna come up there

15:05 about bringing it in house. Yeah. That feasibility of that is that, So the, the, the hardest thing with bringing it back in house is that you need, obviously, you know, you have your crew on a daily basis that you would have to have to do the job. So you’re talking collecting trash, you’re talking, collecting, recycling. Um, it really takes about at least two, two and a half trucks to do trash. It takes two, two and a half trucks to do the recycling for the community. Now you have to have employees for every, for all that operation. Yeah. Now you need backup employees when they’re out sick, when they’re on vacation. Now you need a mechanic or mechanics to deal with those trucks. Now you need backup trucks for those trucks when they’re down. Yeah. So there’s a lot of extra stuff to it

15:52 that adds a lot of cost In addition to that, I think. And there’s a lot of injuries that have come with that. Yeah. And the volume I think of recycling would be way different than it was previously when we had it in-house. And I don’t know that that is sustainable. And with us, Again, the hardest thing. So obviously currently the way it works is that the trash, curbside trash comes to our transfer station. We can handle that curbside tra recycling does not come to us, that goes to Greenworks or other recycling facilities. So you’d have to add in time for when that truck is full. Now you’re driving to Greenworks, you’re emptying it off there, and then coming back and starting where you left off. Right. So it is really starting straight from scratch, big money and test at the Yeah. But is there an inter media?

16:38 I, I certainly haven’t done much, but I, I googled some things and it looks like some towns are trying to stay away from the republic and the, well, the waste management, the big, big bigger Yep. And find, for one of a better word, law and pop organizations. Yeah. So I think they own the trucks and come in and take care of all of the Yeah. I, I think there’s, so there’s, I think there’s some companies out there that we should take a look at. I think, you know, one of the companies that comes to not mind, um, is G Melo outta Georgetown. Um, they’re not a, you know, a publicly traded company. Um, they’re a little bit more of a owner operated stuff like that. Um, so in this case, yeah. We’re not gonna exclude people, um, because we’re, we do need to try

17:25 to get the best bang for our buck. Um, and so we’re gonna really open this RFP out to a lot of people. We’re not limited by the way, too, for like, when bids come in similar to like a construction project where it’s like you have to take the lowest quo. No. So, so in these cases, and we obviously, we’ll make sure that we work with the attorneys on this, it’s the most qualified bid. Okay. Um, and so especially when we’re asking for this whole list of different ways to do it, we’re gonna be taking a look at that and saying, all right, what is the best way for us to do this? There’s gonna be a lot of pieces to this. Right. Um, so it’s not necessarily gonna be the lowest spay, then we’re gonna take that and stuff like that. Right. Okay.

18:05 So what’s the thought about either taking what the first or the second meeting in September and making a very big consumer question and answer session? Or do we do it on a special night? We, we send out emails in advance. We use the newspaper to, to let people know we use those blue orange bill, uh, electronic billboards. Yep. Let everybody know what’s happening. What would be the latest? I think that second meeting would be great. Um, I think it would be hard to put The other, so the fourth Monday? Yeah, The fourth Monday. Okay. So doing it on the regular meeting. Yep. Okay. Now, we certainly wanna make sure the strike’s finished, but I mean,

18:50 I think you, you’re gonna talk about this regardless. I think we need to continue on with our business as usual, um, and continue on with that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I’m good. We wanna get in the bids first before we do. No, you wanna, you wanna make sure that everybody has an understanding. Um, you have all the questions, you get all the concerns. So we can say no, we’re, we’re putting out the RFP to make sure we deal with that question. So we, we hear you loud and clear that you live in Old Town, you have a concern about automated trucks, and this is what we’re gonna do, and this is how we’re gonna, we’re the RFP for that area.

19:29 Okay. So tentatively then we’ll talk about, uh, uh, the fourth Monday of September being, uh, in our regular meeting, or start a half an hour early perhaps, or go whatever, when we once and we’ll, the, the two weeks before then we’ll distribute information either through our own addresses or the, the, the newspapers. Yeah. We can do a combination. We can do, you know, we can do one of those, you know, if the strike is continuing on, we can do a code red to do a general announcement that we’re holding this meeting. Um, we can use our email server lists. Um, yes, we can definitely use those electronic boards in town, um, to try to gather as many people so we can really get some good input on the, on this. Mm-hmm.

20:15 Well, so I think that’s a, a good plan and really worthwhile, uh, the, I mean, when I go up to the transfer station, I think it’s, even, even though it’s more congested, I think it’s even friendlier than it was in the past, because everybody knows we’re running around and doing these things, and I drop my cardboard and somebody grabs it, and I, lady wasn’t able to carry her bag. And I helped the, it was, it was very friendly. And I think we had a build on the good o Obviously a lot of people are being inconvenienced, but mm-hmm. Nonetheless, we ought to build on the fact that everyone knows that the town at least has done everything it could to minimize the, the problems. Yeah.

21:03 Mm-hmm. Um, the only other data I have about the transfer station at this point is that our new employee is moving on. Um, he did get a job with the electric light as a lineman. Um, you know, Jason has been a great addition to our team, um, and we wish him all the best of luck with electric light. Mm-hmm. Um, it’s a great step up for him. I mean, that’s a great career move. Um, so, you know, we’re very lucky to have him. He fed in really well. Yeah. We’re sad to see him go, but he was a great asset during this time. Yeah. That’s what he went to school for. But he was, he was real good on all the machines up there and stuff like that, and dealing with people. He, Yeah, he was very nice. He was very friendly. And So it’s a loss, but this is what he went to school for was electric. So big camp. Well, the other maybe a little more delicate conversation

21:49 we had was, and again, I’m certainly not an expert, could, maybe somebody in the towns sort of set up a GoFundMe, I don’t know, fundraiser for sharing with the transfer station people, um, that have worked so hard during this time. It would be really nice to be able to, you know, say we, I don’t know anything about this. Uh, no, it’s a good idea. But, but if we could raise $5,000, I mean, obviously it’s nothing that we’re sanctioning, but if that occurred Yeah, that’s what I mean, we can’t do it. Right. I know that.

22:31 But, yeah. Um, and then the last piece is that, um, as money has moved over to, uh, new position in the waste department, um, that means we’ve lost our admin person in the office. Um, we have a new admin person coming, Joanne Ferney. Um, she’s coming from, uh, the finance department, and she’ll begin in our office on Monday the 18th. Again, we’re very fortunate to have her. She’s got a lot of great experience. Uh, we will definitely help out in the office. It will be a great asset. Um, for the last seven weeks, um, we’ve had an Nadine from the Council on Aging, um, who has been incredible. Um, and, you know, I will be really sad to see her go. I would love to try to keep her if possible. Yeah. Um, but I just wanna say a huge shout out to her. She comes every day with a smile. She’s ready to work.

23:17 She, she dives right into it. Um, she doesn’t just work on trash and stuff like that. She will work on other things. She’s been really helpful with the stickers, um, and also taking a look at our new website. Um, so the town has shifted over to a new website. Um, it is at the very beginning stages of a website. Um, so if the board could take a look at it, what we’re doing right now is that we’re looking at the old website, comparing it to the new website, trying to create the order to it. Um, and this is gonna take some time for us. Yeah. It’s a little glit glitchy, so it’s A little glitchy. I, I was having a hard time with it the other night, even on an iPad. Um, so trying to figure out some of that stuff, giving feedback to the people that are running it, um, and getting some of that stuff adjusted. Oh. And she’s been great calling.

24:03 Uh, um, she’s so cheerful on the Phone. She’s very cheerful on the phone. It’s great. So now, you know, again, we have a great OA great team in the office. Um, so I’m very thankful for all my employees, both in the health department and up at the transfer station. Mm-hmm. Um, that’s everything for me. Okay. I mean, this is a standalone. Other comments from the, from the audience. Audience, either electronically or in person. I like the idea you’d have of getting other people involved. I know some of the places where I have apartments, what I do is I pay for an extra barrel or two just because my tenants are not very diligent about doing what they should do with the trash.

24:48 And most towns that do it, they also have the ability you can buy bags. Yep. So if you can’t handle getting all your rubbish in one, you can buy these bags. Trouble with those is they get torn apart. It’s not a, Yeah, it’s not something I want to do, But I’d rather see some other way. Yeah. Um, for instance, in Lynn, I’d pay a fee per barrel Okay. Every year. And how would might Just call ‘em up or send ‘em an email? Some of ‘em, they’ll fix other ones. They’ll swap ‘em out. Right now they’re in the process of changing all the barrels in the whole city. I just had a bunch of mine done that. It didn’t go that smoothly, but I’m sure it will pollute. Yeah. It’s, it’s a big issue having somebody available over there. The DPW handles, so Okay.

25:34 Replacing the barrels or fixing them Yeah. Type of thing is a, But again, all these things can be added to the contract. They can get connected to contracts. Um, and so those are just the things that, you know, we’re taking a look at all this stuff. Yeah. Okay. And You were here when we first started doing recycle, like, yeah, 50 years ago, I had to have a barrel for paper, a barrel for clear glass, barrel for colored glass. A barrel for cans. Yeah. So barrel head was on the cutting edge with recycling, if not the F 70. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Started like 55 years ago. Yeah. I think it was, it was a long time ago. Yeah. And if I had that in Palo Alto, that would’ve been 40 years ago. Yeah. Quick question. Um, what are you gonna decide on whether

26:22 to have them come every other week for recycling? So the next couple of days, um, they have to explain to me how they’re gonna be able to take care of the schools. Okay. Um, that’s their next main priority. Um, once they have assured me that they can take care of that, um, we will announce through Code Red on Sunday night to say you’re able to put recycling out. Okay. Um, now obviously one of the things that we’re nervous about, um, obviously there’s been a huge number of people that have been using the transfer station, which is great. Um, the one thing that we’re nervous about is that we would be overloaded with recycling. Right. And so, again, um, they take the recycling from curbside to the transfer station, it goes to Greenworks. There is a drive associated with that. So it could, there could be a, you know, it could take some time. Um,

27:09 Is there a limit of the amount of recycling you want people to put out the first time? We, We’ve talked about that a little bit. Um, no. Okay. I think it’s something that I have to talk to Republic about and see if they have concerns about the volume that they could be inundated with. Um, if we’re gonna limit it, the limit would be 65 gallons. Okay. So pretty, pretty large. Right. I actually think that a lot of people will continue just taking things up, but last couple of times I’ve been there, it’s just, you can tell people are into the routine, So it, it’s Faster. And so that was kind of the idea that like, when we look at this new RFP, can we go to every other work every other week? Recycling? Do you have a sense of, of all the people

27:55 who are using the transfer station now, what percent don’t have stickers? So what percent won’t have access to the recycling drop off? Um, Let me take a look at that and I can pull some numbers and stuff like that. Um, I mean, I think at this point we’re close to 7,000 stickers sold. Um, so it’s a very small percentage. Okay. Cool. And my last question, I just wanna clarify, the r you were talking about the r looking at a bunch of RFPs. Yeah. These are RFPs from other towns Yes. That have already signed contracts with other places. You’re just trying to look at them. Ideas. Ideas. Great. Thank you. That’s what I thought. Thanks. I’d say from my day there, it was 70% of the people at stickers. Yeah. I’d Guess. Yep. A lot of people haven’t got the message that you don’t leave your recycle cell. I’m amazed how many people Yeah. Just leave ‘em out. Yes.

28:42 I think there’s a lot of people that have not signed up for Code Red, and so every week they’re just still in the same routine and they’re putting both trash recycled

28:53 Prizes, me to drive around, see so many, and they blow around. Yep. So, thank you. Alright. Any other comments or questions? All right. Next item. Um, I’ll make the chair’s report. Um, So my sense is you don’t think the strike’s gonna end in a week or so? We are a little off schedule. We’re meeting on a Wednesday and we didn’t meet last week because of the election and all of that. Yeah. The question is whether to have a second meeting of the Board of Health in August. There’s a, as the conflict for the final fourth week of August. So if we wanted to have another meeting,

29:38 it would ha it would be next week. Oh. But if we really don’t think that strike is gonna end, I mean, we can certainly fill up the time, but on the other hand, if we’re gonna have big time meetings, certainly around Kong bound trash in September, maybe we don’t have to meet next week. Yeah. Should we post it and then cancel if I think we should postpone and then if something comes up, we can quickly schedule it. Okay. Yeah. Are we agreed? Yeah. Alright. So we’ll have our next meeting, unless something comes up on the second Tuesday of September, and that will not be the mega trash day. Correct. Okay. Well, okay.

30:25 Well maybe by that time we’ll be able to make it somewhat of a mega calm day. Yeah. Um, we had, I, I hope you thought it was as good a meeting as I did. We had a great meeting yesterday. Um, reviewing the, the sample questions for the health, the, the wellness assessment that’s going to come out. Um, there were seven of us in the room. Really. Um, almost all of the, the constituents, it, it work, work covered, um, Kristen Abeta and Susan de have both child and maternal Su

31:11 or Kristen for, so those, you know, as a professor at Salem State who, who publishes in the maternal health area and has an MPH, he really a, a very sharp person should they were to then, um, uh, Andrew Gillis, uh, who runs the Mariner is obviously interested in seniors. And our, our consultant from, um, UMass Boston, uh, Kaylyn Coyle is a gerontologist. So we had the seniors covered, and then you had, um, uh, a pediatrician and, uh, a really very pleasant, uh, um, it wasn’t a surprise, but,

31:56 but really a new, a new person joined us, um, John au from the school, the sup, the new superintendent of the schools, um, last year and the charter committees. Couple of other things. I tried to make some inroads with the school committee. Nothing came of it, but when with, with the election and Al Williams being, uh, made or elected chair of the school committee, I wrote and said, did in the previous states that I’ve lived in, uh, the, the link the partnership between school committees or school boards and boards of health was pretty robust.

32:43 And if he would be interested in talking about a partnership like that, I, and I was absolutely overjoyed. And rapidly he responded and not only responded, yes, we we’re gonna talk that, uh, Kate, um, is it Schmick Pepper? Yep. Um, also joined him. So we, we spent an hour and a half just talking about how a partnership between the board and, uh, and the committee might work on the, the advantage of the children. And, um, I, uh, mentioned to him that I know that Salem has applied for a unif UNICEF recognition

33:30 of being a child friendly town. And there is going to be, um, as I understand it, a press conference, certain announcement, uh, about that soon. And so you wouldn’t probably call a press conference if you were in second place. Uh, but I don’t know that for sure. But, but we’ve talked to them about issues of how to, how to build child friend of child friendly atmosphere in the town. Um, Al and Kate were curious about it. And so that when we met, I asked them if someone from the school committee or from the school would like to participate in the survey question review.

34:18 And we, we got right to the top. So we were very lucky. He, he was surprisingly how well and up to speed he got in the three, four days that he had to review the, the survey questions. Um, this, the, the committee was great. Oh, and the two other, the other, uh, constituency is Andrew and, uh, Jack Ridge, their constituency was to tell, they wanna, wanted to make sure that the pediatricians or the gerontologists didn’t talk about their population. They wanted to talk about how this was gonna play out for the whole town. And it was a great balance. I mean, I, I’d like to take credit

35:05 for knowing how to do that. I was really just lucky. And it worked. Unfortunately, it worked so well that we only got through half the questions because we That’s great though. And I, I, I think that even Dr. Coyle was surprised that how robust the conversation was, how everyone came wanting to make and did make great contributions. So we’re going to the, the, um, the draft that she gave us had 50 questions she gave us in her introduction, said we really wanted to try to get down the ideal, which we all thought might be tough, but, uh, to get down to 40 questions. So we, we, I, in the first half, we pruned pretty well. Yep.

35:55 And so we’re gonna try to meet again, uh, quickly. And so if we can get the survey, um, done out of the way, maybe the first, the second two, Tuesday of September would be a good day to talk more about, because Dr. Coyle and I ha have at least talked about, we think it would be bad to have the survey out there while there was still strike in town. Mm-hmm. 90% of the people are positive about the way we’ve handled it, but I, I think we really ought to ha we’d like to have the whole thing put to rest before we do that. Fortunately, we have some flexibility with, she wants everything done in October so

36:42 that she can have all the analysis done, uh, by the beginning of the year. And, uh, so we’ll play that by ear. But it was a very positive, very positive session. We’ve talked here in, in, in maybe the next September meeting would be good to bring it back. But we talked here about dealing with health literacy and to do e educational, uh, presentations one way or another to try to get people in town to understand, um, the importance of public health to most of us when we don’t know it’s really public health that’s doing it for us Now. We know the beaches, the beaches are sanitary

37:29 and the restrooms are fine, but there’s an awful lot of things out there that are in the background. I gave a pilot, uh, to, uh, the Rotary the other day, and it was fairly well received. I’ve spoken to the Council on the Aging, and they are willing to give us, uh, some slots in September, October, whenever, uh, for, and what I did in Santa Fe in a, in a somewhat similar situation, I had four 80 minute sessions. Um, and Santa Fe was, um, they, they have an institute that is for adult education, not in the,

38:15 not in the career guidance thing, but enjoyment and all that. And so I could get 30, 40 people on a regular basis, uh, and good conversation and everything. And so I’d very much like to try to do that. I’m curious about how, if I, what I thought we could do is make the meetings, if we do it the first one in the, uh, senior center, or if we do it around one of our places over here or something, that we would post the meeting as a board of health meeting. So all three of us could be okay. And sit. So what are your thoughts? I, yeah, I, I think the senior center would probably be, that would have to be before three 30 in the afternoon,

39:04 because they lose the, I didn’t know this. They lose the building. Oh. At three 30, the building Now, I guess I can talk to Park and Rec Yeah. And see Yeah. Parking. Right. I bet they Would. Okay. I mean, I think the only PC you need to keep in mind is you, you know, your main audience. What time do they like to attend meeting?

39:28 Probably during the day. Yeah. I think that, I mean, you know, I think again, um, ho hopefully the location that we choose can be recorded. Um, so again, this would all be recorded. It’ll be available on Zoom. Um, but I think we’re, you know, like all these meetings, we’re looking for some feedback, some questions just makes it a little bit more entertaining. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there were good questions. That Rotary and, and having done it in, in Fe um, now Santa Fe is more a retirement community than Marblehead is. There are a lot of seniors in Marblehead, but it’s not nearly as much room. So the afternoon, well, why don’t I explore, I’ll check

40:14 with Park and Rick, and so by, by the, the second Tuesday of September, um, I will try to have a proposal for us, um, what I did for the first, which I, I where the money comes from, where the money goes, and why does public health health get so little of it? So we talk, we’re gonna talk about the, the healthcare system and how, at least in the United States, public health is an outsider to the system. And I, I’ve got tons of slides and we can do that if we’re okay. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Mm-hmm. Alright, thank you very much. Um, I

41:01 Just have to make one adjustment for the, for the second meeting in September. It’s on the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah. So it’s that Monday. So if we can maybe move it to the Wednesday. If you, if you all don’t mind doing two Wednesdays, then No, that’s fine with me. So what I, you know, again, um, what is the date? You said the 22nd, but the 24th. Oh, that’s for the fourth Monday. It’s the Second, Second meeting in September. We’re gonna do the questions on, So that’s the fourth? That’s that the fourth. Yep. So that would be the Wednesday the 24th. Yep. Okay. Did we say the second? That’s Still on Tuesday, right? Oh, did I miss that? The second Tuesday would be Tuesday is the ninth the regular meeting? Yeah. Okay. So, uh, I thought you said two both Wednesdays at first. Oh, Oh, you’re right. I kept the gate. They were Wednesday. Okay. Rearranged. Yes. Tuesday. Yeah.

41:46 So the next meeting, unless something comes up, will be on the second Tuesday of September. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah.

41:59 Do you want to give as, uh, and I, I was at dinner the other night and someone thought I was being very rude to you by calling you the vice chair for waste. Well, that you really weren’t a waste guy and who actually handled bills to make sure that Tom’s not wasting any money. So we should probably, we should make you That person. I’m totally fine. We should, should probably make that title Waste Management. Yes. Waste Executive or something like that. And you’re in touch with the people there on a, on a regular basis. What, how, how do, how do you think things are going? I think, uh, things are going well. I’m, I’m getting way less, actually, I haven’t gotten an email in like a week that I’ve forwarded to. So it’s, um, it’s going well when I go up there.

42:47 There’s always less of a line now. And, um, you know, the workers are awesome. They, they, they say that the community’s responding very positively, very nice to them. Very, you know, which as they should be, um, you know, you’ll always get one bad one a day. That’s, I say, which is unfortunate, but, um, but no, they’re doing great. And I like your idea of the GoFundMe. I have a few people I’m gonna throw that at, um, because people have been saying that, that they deserve more. But obviously with municipal, you’re handcuffed pretty much on a lot of those things. So, you know, if it was Tom’s Waste department, I right to them, but it’s, you know, Bonuses all around. Yeah. It doesn’t work that way. So, um, so yeah, I, no, but it is, it’s going well up there and, uh, yeah, I think people are getting used to it.

43:34 I think it’s gonna be good for years to come that people have become, you know, accustomed to going up there and seeing how much it we offer there. And, um, yeah. So overall I think it’s going well. And I’d say if, when we do start recycling, obviously trash didn’t go, you know, out of the gate. It didn’t go according to plan. I would tell people to lower their expectations for recycling since it’s been building up where yeah, it’s probably, that truck is probably gonna fill up real fast. So, you know, we’ll see how that goes. Hopefully that’ll happen soon. Hopefully they get the resources to do that. Um, but yeah. Okay. So the last piece on this is that, so our construction piece for the transfer station,

44:21 uh, is out to bid. Um, so that is the site work, uh, for moving the scale, uh, where the tractor trailer parks, the, the trash trailer down below and building the new scale house, um, that is currently out to bid, um, with bids anticipating in the beginning of September.

44:41 Okay, good. So I don’t think we have to change the name, the vice chair for Community Health report. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Um, so first I’d like to talk about Riverhead Beach. Um, we received an email, um, a little while ago from a community member with concerns about, um, the quality of the Red Riverhead beach. Um, given that there is a, the sub program there with children’s recreational program and adult recreational programming, and it is also a dog beach with a, um, culvert there. And, um, given that this, both the program and the beach are such wonderful access to the town, I thought it would be important for us to talk about. I had some, a wonderful conversation with Andrew earlier.

45:27 Um, a little debate, uh, um, uh, but I, I think it’s worth hearing, um, the points. I hear it, hearing the concerns. Uh, my first initial thought was, oh sure, why don’t we just test? That seems simple enough. But it, that’s not, it’s not simple. It, it’s, it, it’s designating that area, a bathing beach beach. Um, and to do that would take multiple steps, including probably banning the dogs from the area, um, and the boat ramp. Um, so You’d never be able to get rid of the boat ramp, but you’d have, that would become a factor in it. Um, so with, um, that, yeah, so its think this may not be feasible, but kind of an alternative would be to

46:13 educate the public more that this is not a swimming beach or bathing beach that’s tested. Um, I looked at our, on our website, it lists the beaches and riverhead beaches listed. I could show you where. Yep. And so we found that today. And that’s actually on the park and rec side. Um, and so yes, we need to do a better, better job on our website, um, making sure that there’s a, a, a list of what the five public bathing beaches are in town at the very bottom, that you would have a link to the state website of all the bathing beaches where all the data comes back in, because that’s also posted on the, the state website. But yeah, so we do need to clean that up a little bit. Is there, is there a sign there saying it’s not a bathing beach? There

46:59 Is, There is. It’s a, not the swim near the does This don’t swim near the culvert Almost. No, I know, I know. I, I know all about it. I’m just saying I I, I don’t go there that often. I’m just wondering if there’s a sign that says no swimming, it just says no bathing. No, it says specifically, uh, water flowing from this drainage pipe may be unsafe for human contact, do not play or swim near outlet flow, which is essentially right in the middle. And Yeah. But for the public bathing beaches, it is required that we have signs that are posted at each public bathing beach. Mm-hmm. That Tells the dates that we do the sampling for. Um, and that would be the same location. If we had to close the beach, we would be posting the sign there. Got it. But there is, there is a floating dock there, um,

47:46 that we should probably look at and make sure that there is a sign right there that says no swimming. Um, Which dock? There’s a little on Riverhead, there’s a little floating dock out there That’s for someone’s house. Oh, I thought the whole beach was No, the one on the left. Yes. Yeah, that’s someone’s house. Oh, Okay. Okay. Um, And, and I think when you’d say rather than no swimming, you would just say these are, these waters are not sampled on a routine basis for, um, bathing beach quality.

48:20 And I, my other thought was with the motion from the board is to talk to the town lawyer to make sure that recreation sports don’t fall water, recreation sports don’t fall under these Bathing Beach guidelines, um, to make sure that we shouldn’t be testing. And I think the, the first thing we really should do is, you know, if you know people are concerned about this area, we can talk to the state and the Bathing Beach program, who has a lot of information. Um, we could potentially have ‘em come out and take a look at it and give us some guidance around these mixed use areas. Oh, That would be great. That would be great. Because certainly, certainly my agenda is not to interfere with the sub program. I know how popular it’s, I hear such wonderful things about it, but, um, uh, if we’re not testing and saying you shouldn’t be bathing,

49:06 but the outflow is right where the program is. And, um, I think that programming starts at three and a half, but I know my two and a half drinks every water that’s around him. So, um, I think it’s worth exploring more. I can give a little background on the Riverhead, and I’m sure you know, Steve probably knows too, when I, when I was growing up as a kid, Riverhead is not what it is. Now, essentially, if you wanted access to Marblehead Harbor, you had to own a boat, you had to be a member of a yacht club, or you had to be wealthy and live on the side of the water, you know, on the water. So what, um, it’s actually, you know, I, it’s one of these things, like I get emotional thinking about like how amazing she is when Leah Goodman, uh, who I grad I grew up with, I graduated with her,

49:53 she started this program and she opened up Riverhead to everyone, and it made it so anyone can access and enjoy Marblehead Harbor, which was not possible before. Um, and so like the park and Rec has built off it, and now they have the kayaks over there. They rent those that did not exist. Um, Leah actually takes the, you know, that’s a park and rec, she works with the park and rec on this. It’s, it’s coincides with them. But Leah actually, like, you know, she does the standup paddle board, but she basically handles the kayaks too. And so she’s taking it on for everyone. And it’s, um, you know, it’s, I, I,

50:38 uh, not like exaggerating when I say that the way river she’s changed where her head is, the best thing I’ve ever seen in Marblehead in my lifetime. I can’t think of anything, Steve. No, it’s, it’s the best. And it gives everyone access. People come out, you know, they are, um, you know, no one swims there. I was literally there today that one high tide, not one person in the water. It was 90 degrees out. Everyone kind of knows, not that like, it’s not a swim beach DE’s right over there. Um, I saw a guy, uh, two guys out there with their dogs. Um, I saw people on Paddleboards and like maybe a person or two on the kayak. Um, it’s a watercraft, you know, area. A cattle board is a watercraft, which,

51:25 and that’s by mass.gov. Um, same as a kayak, same as a boat. So one of the things I’d say is that when we start talking about watercrafts there, as Andrew kind of said, like, you know, when you put a boat in the water, like you’re not in the boat, you’re in the water. Like, that’s how it works. And so the backlash on going against Riverhead would be massive in town.

51:53 And also, you know, I, I can’t applaud Leah enough because, and this kind of happens in town where ev you know, someone will bring something great and then the town kind of screws it up. And so like, I think f Flynn’s on the beach was the first example I can think of. I worked there as a kid. It was amazing. And the town screwed it up. And no disrespect to the people that had run the, you know, it changes his hands now. It ain’t flynn’s. He, he created it and it was amazing. I worked there. Um, and it’ll never be the same. And you know, with Leah, like, you know, she, they up her rent, you know, every, like, this is not a profitable business.

52:39 I can tell you that. It’s public record. You can see, I’m not gonna throw the numbers out there, but if anyone wants to look it up, we can. Um, it is not big money business. And she’s holding on essentially by a thread there. She comes up, she spends the winters, or most of the seasons in Florida. She comes up here because she grew up here and she’s very passionate. She employs, um, local teenagers, things like that. Uh, it, everyone loves her. Uh, it’s, it’s great. But she is holding on by a thread on that place. And now, like I I mean the Thatcher’s office, yeah, I thrown right under the bus, tried to exercise the fact that he could only pay her once a month because it coincides with the park and rec. So how is she gonna pay her employees?

53:24 How is she going to like live life? So we, we keep putting obstacles in the way of good things that are in town. And I, I hate to see the Board of Health be the one that pushes her over the edge and then it’s gone and, and access for everyone is gone. And that, you know, you know, for the dog people, you know that it’s a different story too, but they, this what, 3000? Yeah. You know, I take my dog, I’ll be there Sunday with my dog on a paddleboard. I can’t wait to bring my daughter, my son, for them to join the camps there. It is the best thing we have in town. So we have to be extremely careful not to interrupt that. Well, I don’t view this as going kind of against Riverhead. It’s, it’s almost to, I know, just

54:12 check it out and make sure it’s, I I have no doubt you have the best intentions, but we also have to realize we’re kind of pointing at a paddleboard program, but it’s a watercraft. And you don’t, you, you don’t swim with a paddleboard. You, you get on it in knee, in knee hive water, and you go like, We got all the three and a half year olds. I imagine they topple off. I mean, maybe you could talk to the park and rec about raising the age, but like, it’s the other Thing I wanted to, But then also, if you go out to the first boat there, they can swim off that. That’s farther out. There’s more dilution. Not really. If you go to low tide, that’s not far out at all. It’s actually maybe 20 feet Low tide. What? You intentionally go swimming a river? No. Yeah. I mean,

54:57 at low tide you’re walking out a hundred yards. Yeah. You know, it’s, you’re, You’re, you’re at the boats. Yeah, you’re at the boats. You’re also further from the culvert and the dog waste. I just, I don’t want to get into the debate about, you know, water quality and, you know, ‘cause we just don’t know. That’s the hardest thing. Um, so, you know, yes. Um, it could be fine, but then when it’s not fine, what are you gonna do about it? Um, what, what happens if it continues not to be fine? Yeah. If you hit the G mean and so it’s closed for a long grade, it’s time. So, you know, it’s just, Yeah. You tell people they can’t put their boats in. Do we tell all the people that rent kayaks being like, you’re done. Like, you’re, you have to put it on hold. ‘cause Leah also wants to deal with weather.

55:43 So like, she could get a whole weekend gone. So if we add an extra like obstacle that’s out of her control, it’s not, you know, as a business owner, you have to be like, I, I can’t risk it. And then it’s over. And so that’s, We, what if we ask Parks and Rec more about a waiver for the program, just letting parents know that this is one of our tested beaches that we don’t know the quality of the water. I mean, I’d, I’d go meet with, uh, Shelly on and talk to her about that. And rec Yeah. Shelly’s the chair of the Parks and Rec. Yeah. Okay. Do I need a motion for No, I think you could just go talk to her. I talked, I talked to Are you guys members? Well, I believe this is exactly the kind of debate that should occur. I think I have read every book

56:29 that’s been published post-mortem about COVID, and every one of them says, part of the reason COVID we lost so much trust and faith in COVID is we didn’t have a debate and talk about both sides. Mm-hmm. We came down and look, I was part of it. Um, in New Mexico, our governor actually fired a school board because the school board wouldn’t the whole school board in town. We came down pretty heavy because we were uncertain the debate that we’ve just had. Weigh bo we’re trying to weigh both sides. That’s what we would, IIII feel very strongly that’s what we want the, the town to believe we will do on every reasonable mm-hmm.

57:14 Question. And I think this is where about it? Talk to Park and Rec talk about it next time. Um, probably, certainly nothing’s gonna happen the rest of the summer, so we’ll have the o other time to talk about it, but, but we should be, we should be open to that. Yeah, that’s fair. I, I would stress though that anything that you do, I would do it sooner rather than later because Leah does live in Florida and she’d have to decide on whether to come back up and if she’s dealing with uncertainty on like, oh, if I plan to come back up, you know, then they might do it. Now she’s going to not come back and then it’s over.

58:01 I would, I would imagine it would be that the waiver, uh, because her summer probably goes to August. I mean, I assume she already has a waiver, so I would’ve assume you would have to wait and have the waiver and put it for next, For next be for next Goal Changes for this. No, but what I’m saying is like, you’d have to say what you’re gonna do before, like, you, you couldn’t tell her next spring and be like, oh, not Next spring, maybe like in a month Or, yeah, no, no, no. That’s, that’s what I mean. It would have to be like, you know, giving her well advanced so that she could weigh whether she plans on coming back

58:38 And the, with the state. So they’re really busy during the Bathing Beach season. Um, I’m not able to talk to them until after the bathing season about this. Okay. No, the Bathing Beach season ends for most of us. No, middle of September general. Oh, oh, okay.

59:02 Any, any question, Comments? I was just saying, saying that it’s kind of a moot point because you have Devereux right across the litter across the street, so if you wanna swim, you can swim there. Yeah. Yes, exactly. That’s why I didn’t, it would be Really different if there was, Was no Devereux. I mean, that’s why I say like, it was 90 degrees today and I was, and I just happened to go down there at High Tide and not one person there because they’re all at Dero. Exactly, yeah. So

59:35 Nonetheless, better debate open. Mm-hmm. Um, critical. The open meeting law for a lot of reasons, but not for that. I think we, we owe it to the town to let people know how we are trying to think town’s behalf, um, Was it River had ever tested? I, so it’s never been a public bathing beach since I’ve been here. Mm-hmm. I don’t, I don’t believe it’s ever been listed as a public bathing beach. Um, I’d have to take a look at the state records to see if there’s been past test results for that. As, so you have to remember, like when I’m talking public bathing beaches, there’s a prescribed manner in which you sample for a bathing beach.

1:00:21 So when I’m sampling Devereux, it’s waist deep, elbow deep for the sample. It’s not out of the culvert. It’s not like me walking over the edge. Mm-hmm. Scooping it’s waist deep, elbow deep,

1:00:34 and obviously we use a certified lab that’s provided by the state. Um, you know, there’s a prescribed tests, um, the sub prescribed colony count. It’s all perseverant out in the regulations.

1:00:49 Alright. Um, I think we’ve reached the end of the agenda. Oh, no. Oh, I have One more, one more. Another light topic. Um, um, so, uh, it being August, um, I figured it’d be a good time to start discussing, um, school vaccinations and surveillance. I just learned today it’s National Immunization Awareness Month, um, and I think we just have a few more weeks of summer and school is coming up. Um, I’d like to, um, talk to our school board and our school committee to see how they do surveillance on, um, kids making sure they’re fully vaccinated with the, um, five state mandated vaccines. And, and this to, um, with the caveat that I’m not trying

1:01:35 to implement any new guidelines, this is just to make sure that we are adhering to the, uh, Massachusetts State vaccination guidelines, um, which require, uh, t dap Folio, MMR, Hep B, and Varicella, and then grade seven and up it’s meningitis. Um, so especially it’s more important now with the rising cases of measles and, um, outbreaks that are occurring in places where there is not herd immunity. Um, so we really wanna keep our immunization rate above 95%. And, um, traditionally in Massachusetts it has been. Um, but, um, then there’s a site on mass.gov where you can see vaccination data and, and for the last year, only

1:02:21 Brown submitted their vaccination data and 98% of their students were vaccinated against MMR, but, um, Glover didn’t submit. Um, so I’d like to reach out to the school committee and see how they go about, um, looking at school vaccination records, how do they inform parents those students are missing vaccines with timeline, um, and how we can help aid, um, getting that data out and making sure kids are up to date.

1:02:49 And, um, and, and certainly I I, I’d like to encourage our school, uh, department not to allow any students who are unvaccinated that don’t have an exemption currently in Massachusetts, it will, there, there’ll always be a medical exemption. Certainly if you can’t get it for medical reasons, you’ll need to. Um, but currently there is the religious exemption that there are two bills currently in Massachusetts legislature, uh, reviewing, um, if we should eliminate the religious exemption. But for right now, we do have it. So, um, making sure that those who do not have either exemption in place aren’t allowed enrollment in the fall. Um, and also I think for parents who choose not to vaccinate, it’s also important to understand that if they don’t vaccinate their child, that they,

1:03:36 if there is an outbreak in a positive case, their kid has to be extracted from school for at least 21 days. Um, and, um,

1:03:49 so that’s my, that’s my goal. Would you, is it a motion appropriate to either, to ask the chair to communicate with the chair of the school committee? Sure. To, uh, to, to perhaps invite you to talk to the school committee or We, we, you, you go, I go whatever. But I, I think we should probably make a motion that, uh, the, the Board of Health, um, it certainly is mindful of, uh, vaccine policy and wishes to partner with the school committee and making sure that Marblehead schools are as safe as possible. Mm-hmm. Something is that perfect. Okay.

1:04:34 Um, I guess chair’s not supposed to make more Oh, no. I’ll fake, But I’ll fake it anyway. I mean, I think we’re the guy that I second? Yes. Second. Okay. All in favor? Yeah. Um, okay. Um, I will, I will EI will email the chair committee and see how he, he, he may want one of us to talk to the head nurse who, who isn’t back yet for the summer. Um, that, that’s where their school, the, the school committee health team starts, I think with the head nurse. I don’t think they have any physician consultant in, in the, in their, um, system, but I don’t know that for sure. But I will do that with, I Think the local board of health appoints one,

1:05:21 The physician for the schools That I read in the locals, I’d have to take a look at what’s actually applicable. So it doesn’t always work that way. Ah, okay. Yeah.

1:05:33 Sorry. Dr. Can you say the five mandated ones again? Um, DTaP or Tdap. Okay. Depend on your age, but same components. Yep. Um, polio. Yep. MMR mm, Hep B and varicella and meningitis is grade seven. Not, And MMR is measles. Measles, mumps, rubella. Okay. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Did you say seventh grade or age seven. Grade Seven. Grade seven. Yes. Thank you.

1:06:04 Any other, uh, items from the board? Any other items from, uh, our guests? I get a couple things. Um, does the guys have a mini refrigerator yet? Yes. Yes. Okay. I’m gonna give ‘em one They didn’t Have No, they have one in there. Okay. That’s important for the Yes. It’s hot weather there. Yeah. And the other thing, uh, what’s our practice on our five member board so that we’re gonna be all set for. So my understanding that the state rep has passed it through, um, I will check with them to see what the next requirements are. Um, but it, it is in progress. No, I just don’t want it to. Oh yeah. Jen, Jenny has Sent a couple emails Yes. And stuff. Yeah, just

1:06:49 Check. I’ll keep reminding Several. We should done it last year. We thought it was done. Um, anybody online that might wanna ask something?

1:07:06 There are no hands raised at this time.

1:07:12 Um, I accept the motion for adjournment. Motion to adjourn. Second. Second. All in favor? Standing. Motion of adjourned. Uh, okay. Mostly we are adjourned until, uh, hopefully the second Tuesday of September. Boring. Um, an emergency that we need to be. Thank you very much.