Select Board: June 22, 2022

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0:00 Okay. All right. I called to order the 372nd. Annual convening of the order selectment now known as the selected board. The first order of business is reorganization of the board voting of the chair. I will now ask for nominations. I would like to not only Moses greater as you. Thank you Jackie the second. Okay, the nice second. Are there any other nominations? See none. Take the matter to a vote each member will cast their vote by indicating by last name and choice of chair.

0:49 or people buy what’s the term? Information it’s unanimous sound raise your hand. Yeah, okay.

1:02 started Miss singer

1:06 There’s Noonan in favor. Mr. Greater in favor Mr. Knight and David is spelled background in favor. Congratulations.

1:18 Hi comic and just quickly I would just like that. Thank Jackie belt Becker for her years and extremely fantastic leadership and we’re so much from you. We appreciate it. Thank you, and you’re still here? Yes. Thank you. If I could say something’s wrong. Jackie you’re you’re incredibly magnets. You are you gave me an indication that you would do this. It is a little bit earlier. And I’m really honored that you would certainly worthy of walking in closets. Okay, so, you know you were you were really you’ve been a steady hand till very long time.

2:04 And as far as I’m concerned, we got it all consider Jackie our Prime counselor. And we it for however many years ago continue. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I want to just say to you. I think this is Congratulations, too. And also it’s great rotational leadership and being able to have Jackie Harris sharing that institutional knowledge is a really, you know, that’s part of leadership in general being able to take that and mentor and that’s a great opportunity to utilize that knowledge while it’s here and foremost to you know, it’s as a chair and to learn and that’s that’s part of being a team so It’s a great move forward. Yeah, it’s

2:51 awesome. I agree too. I think thank you for representing. One so well at so many events and you just don’t do it with such Grace and and I everyone remember that. if you

3:09 we’re gonna switch cheers, but you have a conflict of interesting. Do we want to Over joining here. Yes. Okay. We you know when you see fire with the clerk’s office. Parents are some product tomorrow. And then again, you can read it at the next meeting. It’s it’s been here. Okay, thank you. So this is a close disclosure of appearance of conflict of interest as required by General Law chapter. 268 a 23b3. Title or position select board count of Marblehead Hall pursuant to mgl 268a section 23 be three diamonds attorney and consultant such capacity. I did not appear before any boards and Marblehead. I have no financial interest whether

3:54 clients here before local Awards and whether they Haley will be used for said Services since none of these These are received by me. I made this disclosure pursuant to end Geo 268 a 23 in order to spell any appearance of potential conflict of interest occasion by the facts and out above that. I may be in properly or unto leading influence in the performance of my official duties or that I wouldn’t be likely to act or fail to act as a result of kinship Frank position or the undue influence of any party or person with regardless of circumstances sign Jackie 622

4:35 Thank you.

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5:01 It’s real estate is everything. Yeah.

5:07 The channel. Oh, yes. Thank you very much. It is it is really humbling to be here and the state of Honor. I think we should move forward with the agenda. Now do we have a planning board of points? I don’t have anything in my older than so. I would be scratch. Okay that has been completely scripture. Then the next item on our schedule is to hear the Hollister at Garner talk about should I come up here? Yes, please. No since the chair here. Thank you.

5:50 first of all, congratulations to all five of you stood on skateboarders yesterday long day. I know you heard last week, I think or last meeting from Mr. And I about this event the shelter. My soul is kind of a Live Aid concert type of event fundraiser for the Lynn shelter, which is a really wonderful organization. They have been on a campaign to renovate a hotel and to do some upgrading to their buildings to make them more livable and this is kind of they’re in the final stages of finishing this project. And so we wanted in the Ministerial

6:37 Association really wanted to be part of that final push Clyde Ella to is on vacation right now. It is family ask me to stand in for Canada on this economic committee planning this event. And so we wanted to just tell you about it and you know that I know, you know something and some of you have seen someone posters Um, so and we would love to have your endorsement and some form or your presence there or whatever you think is appropriate for showing any support you may have for this event in the ministry Association. We’ve talked about it as being

7:22 our surrounding Town Salem and then and Beverly are do so much to take care of people find themselves homeless and they do it for us too. So we’re just really happy to be part of the support for this. Yeah, so I don’t know if you know that you would like to know about it or it’s going to be a wonderful event. We’re featuring. The Chad Hollister band and I’ll modestly say that John Hollister is my stepson. Yeah, he’s really good. That doesn’t take away the fact that it’s really good enough. Then Larson is just south are wonderful Jazz group if you haven’t heard them in they played in down and artist Association.

8:12 Other places in that and then there’s a couple of other acts that I don’t know as much about but one of them is a wrapper apparently, so it’s going to be kind of a mix of all kinds of great stuff sounds great and it’s Saturday from 7 to 10. I have some actually have some tickets to give to you. And you can pass them around basically as you want and there’ll be food trucks there. Yes, sir. Yes, you know there is a food truck festival going on in lost or somewhere and all the food trucks are all up there for them. So they were not available. We really tried to scrap much for but we will have an ice cream truck and we are going to get order pizzas

8:58 and have them to you know.

9:03 I want you at all. See if I left anything out. We have some wonderful sponsors including decision by the National Granite bag Marvel has a rotary club and Marblehead bag and a number of the churches and Temple and individuals. And all of our town officials, there’s superintendent and she replaced and chief of fire chief of all endorses and talk to them about it in favor of it. Sounds fantastic. Good. Okay, wonderful way. Is there anywhere that people can go to check out some details? Yes.

9:48 There I’m Gonna Leave a poster with you that has the online information about it and maybe Kyle will I have battles? I can also email you a smaller version of that. So that has everything on it. Oh, you can email us. Yeah. I can do that. Yeah.

10:14 Maybe the trust can pick this up fine say maybe the Press could pick this up. Yeah.

10:21 Our new president honestly, yes. The news right? Okay. Thank you. Very presentation. You did well. wonderful

10:39 Okay, we would like to have come before us e plus Technologies. Welcome gentlemen. Thank you so much. Appreciate you coming out on such short notice.

10:54 I didn’t regard at all. As we do appreciate you. Releasing the I’m just going to search the strictly the diamond. That’s very helpful.

11:08 It’s a good reading there, but you can tell with that little transition going on. So I think what we what we’d like to do if you just kind of bring us up to speed a little bit don’t make an intro. Yeah, so let me just say what benefits of provided those three documents that you spoke about last week’s meeting those release you have them so had an opportunity to look at them. I’ve added on your desk. To an additional documents one which was in the package last week. The the state of work which gives you detail level what I’ve added for this week because I received a lot of questions. From all of you and

11:54 conversations about you know, what were the auctions available? And what did we select so so the document the managed Services overview it was a worksheet that was generated back part of The Proposal project, but I thought it was best. It’s on your desk. It’s not in the book. I walked yeah. Okay. Yeah, and so it shows sort of the menu of options that were available. in it marks, which ones were chosen and they each gentlemen can fill in the digital details on So Mr. Chairman we have. All in whatever discussions you have two motions of playing against the table. Just so desire you alone you consideration on the

12:41 boat? Yeah. Well, perhaps we can hear from John that I feel perhaps what would be helpful just for the for people listening this time frame a little bit. So in your planning English and you proceeded the questions from you. It’s great and happy to account. First of all, congratulations. Looks like one well done and thank you very much. My name is Andre Robert. I’m an account executive at e plus AKA salesperson our responsible for the town tomorrow and with me I have Carl Whitson the business of element executive in our community services Management Services Financial a lot of solutions and operations talking about and Dave lavalli my right hand man solution architect lower of all things. Well, you

13:30 know,

13:35 so arm the main purpose here, all of us being here is answer your questions, but do give you a little bit of framework and history we About a year ago by way of introduction a referral from another town to see close the previous transference contacted us. He was interested in buying some some laptops and Equipment Dave and I met with him on a year ago. We uncovered a lot of other areas that needed. have to go into that but we’re pretty much here to talk about those things some of the Computing server infrastructure with aging didn’t have majors things like that. So what we did is we come put a package together that has three

14:23 pronged approach update the server. Use storage architecture. That’s everything that handles the data and the applications that users access. Let me just important. How long would you spend on the ground and you um, yeah. So so I’ve been here a few times over the years. So you guys probably were like giant project over dangerous. So I’m heading up on that. But when the first round of that came out, which is probably about four or five years ago. I came out and assess your environment making a story short as possible. So maybe driving well and then we see King alone and we started this up again remember model

15:09 thing all year. So take that and Look for your data center and assessed it. So this was the second round and my my first view was. This is disabled. It was last time it started. So nothing to change literally nothing to change and on the table is kind of in the same as what kind of thing, so I probably spent. I will say a good week assessing the environment and what and where we should do where we want to be how long we want to have a longevity before we have to do this again. That’s a good thing. And then I probably spent the number three or four days. I went over. What is the best solution for the town moving forward or maybe for One jackets?

16:00 Yes, and then subsequently and countless meetings includes over the technology presentational technology from the vendors that created. So what we came up with sort of three prime approach update the data center infrastructure. Number one that project is happening all the next week. Number two, get a body in the walls inside walls of town Long Island. We noticed the the current IT services provider. There was a lot of questions and answers Steve didn’t have a great concept work on what they provided the contracts wasn’t available. So he gave

16:45 us what he could and we decided our service desk. A help desk and having a 40-hour full-time equivalent. On staff or the town of Marblehead will be the best solution. So that is what we have to be funny.

17:05 Thank you some of the benefits today as we get married to student understand. He always States some days or something to be Center password simple things. And now we’re gonna use the personal use the game. We want them to be happiest so you are on site. Joe downhall has trouble when we found check if there’s no one’s life. Happy abilities. Yeah, I could say I’m gonna ask one more question here, you know in terms of the you know, I think I think one of the merits of the design is that upgrades can handle in handy pretty quickly. What extent are you kind of cloud-basing some of the applications so that

17:53 we can kind of make seamless information?

18:02 and is it you know, is it is it something that’s You know to what extent is the existing equipment going to be part of the package and how does that work? I think having a problem you want to do that though, right? So the existing switching structure is fine. Okay these days the switches and switches switching that it goes exactly goes out as a software that the magnetized. Um service range storages age. You have local on-prem exchange age. virals of coordinates those rejoice We will probably get the Expos and enhance those kind of goes by as software updates Etc. So in terms of specifically the

18:49 cloud or Sovereign as a service. Where we are playing and plan is to help 360 and SharePoint get older 65 into Cloud here in the cloud Security in the cloud. Maybe Cloud if you wish what else are 80 80, right?

19:15 And there’s a few other days and we will connect the cloud. Architecture to your local architecture. So yeah, I would architecture as an example why you haven’t locally they walk into Cloud locally, but we love you know. and using his passwords daily things maybe SharePoint. OneDrive services and the mail the rest will be on site and I highly highly redundant data structure machines with a lot on top of that Birchbox.

20:01 So it will be truly hydrated value worry or silos of Industry. Remember, so you mean for for appropriate Cloud? That’s actually right. It is like a picture. so On this this is the Northeast Cloud I will be using you can add independency to those Services. If you wish to regardless, it would be other clouds and other jurisdiction of the world. I don’t see a lot of people.

20:30 on any other questions and doing some questions so I’m apologize. In a bit of a already, so that’s the best but I have tried to get a handful of things. So when you said that the plan is to move us to office. Thursday I’m trying to get a sense of what in the contract with e-plus and what is outside the contract for a future date? So in the contract right now. Is this are we is this including a subscription based service to Office? 365 that’s in this context. No, not in this right, but there is one in front of you. We’ve actually already paid for it. So yeah,

21:17 that’s you already have excellent is yours you own it is 12-1 subscription. Okay, so we are in the process of scheduling vibration of all your on-prem mailboxes knocking into. Wow. Okay, you actually have made more. Most of that subscription and services are going here. That is a government classes public about what hope you use.

21:49 And that is the government about which is it’s combined. Yeah added another security that is usually Okay. and my other question was this how is this security like antivirus and malware stuff on that that’s on the like the end user I guess right the laptops the laptops and all that. So how is that handled? Is that also? That that’s our part of what we’ve been wondering, right? That that will come through you 360 like cloud.

22:28 and so

22:33 so with this contract where we have two firewalls because presumably we have one now. And maybe adding another one. So we get this particular product. We have not either a second biologically try to run as much as of existing equipment as we could. Yeah, we can easily add that but we were planning on just someone Is yeah sorry, but I was just gonna say what’s in here is the management of that fireball. Let me already have them all. I’m gonna take over the management of it if that is the care and engagements and you know, making sure that’s working proper properly having eyes on that box that I have. Okay, and so that reminds me to that that’s very clarified this for me was that we actually own the equipment. Yes. Okay not using it and is it that’s practice to

23:21 have two firewalls. Is that something we should move towards but It is a huge depends. Okay, welcome. A lot of organizations will have high priority laterals, but remember you have probably SharePoint resources and exchange in the cloud. So if it’s a blizzard and everybody’s working at home, no need to go through the Bible. Okay, so we would only be follows all in good for the resources that are inside our building per se the only outside thing in this would be SharePoint. One drive and exchange that would matter going out of our building super files. Yes, the fire element down. We lose access to Yeah, okay.

24:07 He was crossed you wouldn’t but it’s a true during each a firewalls also mean AJ switches at the core. They also need h a internet circuits. It also mean independent power sauces signing aging High availability. So if one firewall Goes Down You’re Gonna totally Takes Over Control. It’s kind of like gone. Left side website brainer and totally sharing information. So once that goes down payment seamlessly regardless and fix that you don’t even know. Typically looking like to their classroom. Is that a pretty exorbitant loss to that enough. It will add a cost. How are you going on in the government wouldn’t call us? How much cost look into that you know?

24:57 And then does this new that’s a firewall that we have the afforded neck. Does that have a new VPN for employees? It has a big Angleton Indonesia. You have that today actually. Okay, and just a couple more questions. How do we enable like multi-factor out there application? Is that like an app it texts? That’s phone call great question. It’s actually already in Spyro. It’s just a license you need to add to it. You actually have two clients that come with every four firewall to get more. It’s a very extensive license. Okay NFA I would say in general is a separate conversation. This is a lot of ways you can do it. I can tell you from working.

25:43 Basically, Massachusetts, maybe sometimes kick back from the union members from PE from the fire department things like that. So that inside Okay. Okay, and then ransomware attacks and things like that? That’s recovered the contract. That’s all built into your priority. No contact building with viral today ad filtering the playroom today. I will fortunate firewall today and you know what? It’s called afford analyzer compliance today. So let’s look at animals. Okay solid information puts it together and then I couldn’t answer this as of today because I could not get access to set up correctly alerts when

26:30 you sense. Okay, and we’re when I look at the service contact, so it says we offer four service options. Which which option is this. It would be the manage level service. Yes, apparently here next and last question. Thank you for thank you. In terms of a liaison with the town. What is it you think would be the best? like we were just trying to discuss is that going to department heads you go to individual apartment heads in the town or is there one point of Contact like you prefer between Marvel and yes for service issues for between Marvel had

27:15 any plus like in the beginning. I think you talked about. You know when you come in and do the assessment and the initial and kind of rollout, I guess so, yes. Well you jump at the help desk the help desk. I would imagine that an employee would just pick up with Paul or maybe go to the department head, but in terms of our end in a contract, you know for things is that something you would go to our you know keys are or is there somebody specifically identify as a point of content? What’s who’s working with your own policy decisions rather Service delivery decision, but policy decisions to the services that are being invited or the management of the build-out of what needs to be built up I think is what full yeah, what’s your point? Who do

28:01 you like the point of contact typically like what do you think be on our end would be to go to person for you know exists, right? So but yeah answer your question that will be typically policy instruction from you know, we don’t take policies. Activity conversation. Yeah. So maybe be something nice. Okay, so that was nice primarily my transcriptions later without actually answered you folks. Yeah is with a buck stops on that and then Very likely, what I would do is work with a team of folks that are in one regard or the

28:48 heaviest users which are Finance folks. Those those are gonna be the heaviest customers. I mean you should there’s your desktop workstation customers all over. Yeah, but it’s our financial applications and all those applications of the heaviest users. So we are very likely to have a team self. The active findings director and some point the plan is director and that’s filled and in we have some folks who have already provided provide some desktop level support so they would all be part of a tea, but Buck would stop with me in regard to any of the policy decisions. On how we move forward. We also are virtual season. It’s not sales call but understand another offering that we haven’t virtual sea so which we have a

29:35 lot of you know, he’s taking advantage of it because they don’t have you know, we’ll see so long, but she’s been Mission security officer, right and so virtual T cells right experts. Product systems that were sequels were for companies and they’ll help you set policy because it’s it’s time if you’ve never done it before I mean you have some experience so, you know, we may have some information but our virtual csos are helping multiple customers in the industry. So we’re seeing things from multiple customers. incoming some policy. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hi, Alexa. Yes. Thank you, and thank you.

30:20 Yeah, so it sounds like just I’m gonna go backwards in my questions here. And so yeah, so I think my understanding is with Thatcher with Mike and finance department. I’m working with Jen and the folks that have already are having users and representatives that you guys will work as a team with the facilitating for now until we could get some permanent changes there. But so I think that’s a great setup for our team to work. You know, we’re You guys so one of the things that you mentioned? Just going to go backwards through my list.

30:55 is the VPN and I know and I mentioned in the documentation just with the training on the VPN. And then I know you mentioned that part of that was already in in place. Do you guys facilitate the training new employees current employees, you know with all of this processor you guys handling the training piece because that’s I know especially once it’s decided for the multi-factor office notation like, you know, whether it’s an app whether it’s a phone call whether it’s a text like whatever it’s negotiated with the union and you know, that’s will be there here expertise obviously, but are you involved in the training piece to onboard our employees to make that transition because that can make confusing process for people when they haven’t been utilizing that So my hope is that that’s the guided from

31:40 site. Okay, you can actually give them a little bit extra one-on-one training. Okay that you know I’ve seen Various enclaves me. I was just wearing here tonight example some of the employer. oh old-time employees and you know right exactly change for that. Yes. Thank you personally working higher ed and we had this transition having the last six months. Okay. So I saw it on the union planning side. I saw it on, you know, the user side and you need to massive. You know amount of work to on more useful. It’s that process and to make it successful. Obviously, you know, it’s a different municipality versus that but just Yeah, no, it’s ways of gratify. Yeah, like they said we hope that the person that was

32:26 going on site here. Actually, he handled that anyway rollout of any application any new application and change. Yes, we can also provide those services and subset of hours or through the software provider. Okay, it’s whatever application letter. It is exactly technology. Right. Yeah. No, that’s yeah just to see that. Just that you guys, you know are handling that process and one of the things I had in my notes when I was going through the paperwork and you guys referenced the Fortinet and I think we talked about this for that. What is the process if we’ve contracted something our paid for any sort of product and it goes end of life. How’s that built into the contract? I know

33:14 it rumor not rumors potentially going into life in October is like, I don’t know that’s where we’re not but how does that work as far as whatever, you know, whatever the product is that we’re we’ve paid into something are we then somehow getting this extra Financial thing that we were not negotiated originally, so to see how that So our many services, we we typically require that they that the product be not end of life. But if it does go end of life, we don’t just tell him however, we stop supporting me. We’ll support it with best effort. Right? So what that means is we’re still going to do manage services on if you need to let’s take a fire alarm. For example, if it does go end of life again, you guys own that pile on

33:59 firewall, right? We would so through our service business reviews that we have a different times and some people would like to quarterly something like an app here some people let me hear you during those sbrs. We would look at all equipment and say hey this is coming up in the life. So you should never get surprised that something coming in Black Friday, right? Because in our sdrs services, we’re gonna respond that stuff. Okay just products like right here. Just typically, you know, five year run away, you know down something in the life. I’m here, too. So yeah, usually never be surprised by something, right? Yes. No, I’m just the

34:46 questions Sorry, you had mentioned something. Oh the Microsoft Office 365 the licenses are they just started curiosity? It couldn’t find it it no paperwork that I was going through. All right, is it licenses for all Town employees for you know, like laptops. Like is it an individual license? You know, how does that 150 total for people who, you know use you now use Microsoft productivity. So we you know, whoever needs access to those schools users that don’t have anymore. Town’s work email You know, so we decided we see about 150 was a great number. Okay easily change

35:32 that but that’s again that’s not part of what the paperwork after Frontier There Was You Know separate project to deal with that and you just wanting that expire again last year so we want to race to get that in. Okay, so we have done the migration from the on-ground cloud right yet but that subscription. So that’s 3605 and okay. All right, and then just about here process in general for administrative rights? Like how do you guys handle that can people do installs like happy monitor that How do you guys control that on individuals? Yeah, right. Yes. That’s a

36:18 policy. That’s a pause right here. You you said that policy then that’ll be the team really four seconds administrative rights, right? Yeah, they’ll set that 17. Okay. Yeah, just trying to understand it and then there was another question. Yeah, right. That’s it. Right. Yeah, I know and higher handling that I people who are admins you. So what the average person have daily path in Anaconda? Yeah. Right. And is that set by sound policy issue two things like

36:54 banners, you know when you log in like, hey, you’re sending this outside of the organization warning. You know, that sort of thing is that that is a policy is that that is part of the standard. So that’s something that’s gamble Implement that Standard Security. Polish should have in place, right? You don’t. Will help you with those we give you suggestions. This is one other people do right and will enforce those pause. Okay, we’re not but that’s okay mentioned. So it’s curious. And yeah, and you talked about the training is really important. and then this we just got which I think highlights, you know, what some of

37:40 the other questions which were about what in the service plan like what we selected like the remote the remote coverage hours and like all of those things are online, which is great that all looks great. No problems there anything else that you guys haven’t requirements were awesome.

37:57 So pretty. awesome, other than the policy team So we need you know, what? I didn’t mention in the beginning should bring that heat plus we’ve been in the United 32 years and about 22 years ago. We were servicing a lot of music values and public sector organizations. We decided we need to you know, make us an actual or over 20 years dedicated slender Vision stable and education. So we understand the process for meetings on the understand money.

38:42 So we really truly understand, you know the process and you as an organization and customer. And they said explain that every town in Massachusetts, but we I’ve got about 3500 customers not politics across the globe and the presence in New England. Yeah offices, you know, awesome all local resources World fairly local and from Massachusetts time. But yeah, so we have, you know dedicated people spending every single day in public sector. Yes. No, I appreciate and I think like the ticket structure where we’re working up to. I think that’ll start heavy but hopefully start to subside but just want to make sure there’s

39:28 Financial applications of them said, you know participating because it is it’s a working Windows that budget. Thank you. Thank you. I don’t have anyone questions. That’s all thank you. Yeah. No, I think it’s a lot of great things for the town. A lot of great things to be implemented. And I think this is something that you know, a lot of larger organizations are you know happening within the like the last six to follow us people are definitely migrating. Like I said require education as a nation. Yeah. So it’s it’s really the appropriate attention. It’s great. You’re asking critical questions hear me all those things and Cloud Readiness, you know, and we that’s kind of what we have in mind most organization. You want

40:18 to go all over the clouds one day you can do that, you know. Okay. Well, yeah, so that’s that’s all I have administrators. Yeah. That’s right. That’s From my perspective. Yes. Presuming support of the board them coming on board is the start of the journey not the end of the journey. Absolutely. So yeah. Look forward to working with them having an expert team. with us to build upon the foundation that they’re going to put in place is we do have more work to be done in our infrastructure and our applications and our needs so this is the start of the journey. Yes. Absolutely. And there’s a lot of great things that are

41:04 Happening right away was just tremendous and provides a lot of security. So thank you for the work to go into this absolutely and collaborative. Yeah. Okay, it’s great any other questions? just comment, but tell me past them budget and this fits and everybody budget, which is great. It just exactly the same person. Just subscribe one question. On would you get this? Yeah, would you could we do take public comment after maybe if you About this I can’t take it on my asking question and I was not only get generally we don’t we don’t make public comment. So until the end. Yeah, okay. I mean, I hope you’re not

41:51 going to vote because I have a question. that went really that’s why.

41:58 Well, look I think maybe we will. You know, we will go ahead and write right now.

42:05 Okay, I mean I think we yeah, that’s that’s kind of machine and I didn’t know this. Yeah. Okay, so there’s two motions actually that we have to undertake. One is a motion to remove from the table and reconsideration for vote. The contract or computer services with a e plus again. So the second pregnancy. I guess this is all in favor. and you know and the second is the contract for computer services that we have been discussing and an emotion in a second the vote for award the contract to Computer Services of e plus of Canton, Massachusetts in the amount of 216,000 938

42:53 and authorized check the chair to sign the contract on behalf of seconds all over as unanimous gentleman. Thank you very much for every time. Okay. Thank you.

43:18 Okay, so I think next on the agenda. We don’t have any we’re going to vote. We don’t have any minutes ready to vote on like if we go. Straight to the 2022 reappointments. The boards can be used and commission.

43:37 And yeah. So this process we’ve been through so many times. I’m pretty sure the process but I’m going to go ahead and read through. Okay, and if there are any holes or objections to them you can go ahead and note that and then that I will Circle back. To the holes. Is that is that okay? Is that clear? Yeah, I just want to say I do. Um, I do have a I do some concerns about so I I want to make a motion that I’ll be at voluntary appointments be for three months turn. Turn for until October first 2022 during which time to select forward shell confer develop a policy and all volunteer and non-saturatory appointments

44:23 obviously in Rio appointments. And so that we can take a look in accordance with best practices for Massachusetts blackboards in our communities and I would like to

44:39 Well, look, I mean I I my sense is Right. We’ve had a process in place. Oh second end. Yeah. Okay. No, that’s not good support as well. And I think this is something that we should work on. You know, just Aaron right? It’s something we can do. I personally think that we were pretty much didn’t we do by execute on that practices? now keeping terms open for just three months to review process. I think it’s a little bit. Yeah, I think it’s a little over the top. I think we can we can review the best practices on the fly something we should do. Okay? Well, I just think here’s the thing. I

45:27 mean, you know, I think this is one of the most important things that we do and I think it’s more of a pro form of action right after the election. You know, I just think it doesn’t give enough time for you know board members to reassess like discuss allow new members to educate themselves. I sat here a year ago and had the exact same experience and I think it’s placing people in a position where you are unable to cast an educated vote for an educated decision in the reappointment process. You know, I think the idea is to look at things from a way that you can say. Okay what you know, I don’t have all the answers but the process of having the discussion maybe, you know, maybe it’s

46:13 a rolling process. Maybe there’s a discussion on the extra strategy on the entrance strategy. You know, I think that as I have watched this process for a year and Also trying to respect the people that are and have served. I think there is the other side of this which is controlling for citizens who want to also volunteer continuing to say, okay. So we as a board have really said and want to focus on encouraging volunteers, encouraging diversification encouraging people to step up but when there’s no Set conversation or understanding of what that turnover looks like what that is. I think it

46:59 is very hard for new people to come on and be a part of the appointment process and I think it’s hard to and I think just It complicates the message and which allows people to come up in anyone participate so that those are my concerns. Okay. I think it’s broken down into one sub quick Brew, but you know animations come up, right and the other is that you’re concerned about, you know, allowing, you know, getting new candidates under World on that latter one, I think it’s really important to emphasize and the reason I hesitate because I think this is really do it and just saying because generally speaking there’s a broad basically citizens.

47:44 And there is nothing preventing. And by the way, there’s also traditional Town hanging around a group of a while at least different committees getting knowledgeable and getting kind of the opportunity to move then so these boards are kind of looking here. They also have to say in terms of who comes on in kind of informal in some cases formal ways. chair before looking so and so it’s been hanging around. It really interested really knowledgeable. You know, I think currency to put in their names. so what I’m doing what I’m trying to say is is it the You know the volunteer process is actually pretty rich and deep now.

48:31 It does reward the engagements within a wonderful loss again. So the second part is how do we approach someone? on an honor volunteer committee right version of water, whatever and basically You know control who gets thrown off and who doesn’t because that’s what’s essentially. trying I mean traditionally he’s kept at option of arms here volunteer. Basically. No reason we set a timelines a lot volunteer volunteers they able to get want that commitment at their time. If you want get the option to go away, we’ve never gone back to volunteers and say you know what you’re getting you’re getting

49:17 to. You know you get tools for this get off now that have been problem with an issues of the past, right? Where we where we’ve taken care of it. Usually it’s any kind of the social situation or something. I’m just not sure what the children faculty of kind of a top-down.

49:42 Kind of review process where we’re asking people, you know to move off the board. Okay, and I am really concerned about. I don’t know if it’s going to be a chilling effectively a chilling effect chilling effect on

49:57 But I get what you’re saying on turnover. I get it. I think there’s a lot of richness though to how people kind of merge and truly through consistent. It’s kind of like it’s almost like a screen in some way for some reason and others. We don’t get enough. So we’re kind of reverse problem. So

50:19 You know, I just I just you know, I think the probably we haven’t unbelievable participant floor governments right now. We do I think it works well.

50:32 And I’m just I’m just worried about kind of throwing three months timelines, you know subject to review that it was loud. They were I’m sorry. It’s like Ford, that’s it. So I I understand. I just think the best approach is just encourage me getting off, right? Have the answers. I think the problem is there’s not the space. for the discussion and as that was the you know, the the concern and I think that’s concern still whether I was the person sitting here or someone else was sitting here in my seat. They would be in the same position. And

51:17 that is the you know is the concern over that piece isn’t really handled and like I said, I don’t have all the answers over. but that’s asking for the timeline to have the discussion and

51:35 that’s where my kids are. I just did not waste what those concerns are looking at where it was before and after so, I you know, that’s where I’m coming. It’s getting you. Yeah, I hear you. But I think it’s very disrespectful to all of these appointments to to think that we can put them on a hold and I think it’s Actually outrageous. I don’t I don’t believe that this is yeah, we’ve been we have not had issues. We have not. I mean, you’re not the only two vehicles it would be it would just be a shorter time period so it would allow us to have this conversation and then say maybe it’s a rolling basis. Maybe it’s just the timeline to change maybe the

52:22 policy stays the same. It’s just getting that conversation. Well, I’m just wondering then why they’re going to come up soon because this is the day that we appoint officials and I don’t think it’s appropriate to do otherwise, I mean if you want to work on this Work on it will work on it for next year because I think that everything is is running smoothly. I think that people who expect to be reappointed should be reappointed without any nonsensical balanced without delay, you know, well, it would be reappointed but so I have a question for you. Um, so when you say, okay so work on this for next year like when would that time frame be in your mind in that

53:08 space? So because this is when we do it and so if we’re not addressing the Peace of the Rolling basis, this is genuine question. When when do you like when does this process? When would it happen? How could it happen? That’s my question. Like how would it I don’t know that any in my opinion. It doesn’t need to happen. We are doing best practices and every single thing that says best practices here says the board may we are doing what we should be doing in my opinion and when somebody doesn’t do a job correctly. People know and the person doesn’t get reappointed great, but it doesn’t address the second part of the question, which is if someone is coming on there’s no it’s you know this proforma type 24 hours later. You’re

53:55 being brought right into this process. So there’s two parts of the concern. So even if you were to hold part one part two is still one of my questions is then if someone else like I said, if this wasn’t myself and someone else was standing in this place, they would be having the same exact experience. My concern is that they aren’t able to educate themselves. So if the timing is the issue and you have volunteer appointments and then necessary appointments, obviously, there’s two parts of this, right so you have the appointments that are needed and then you have the appointments that are volunteer like that’s my question about is there an opportunity for even the rolling a rolling time praying. We’re just like a basis where it’s not occurring and is there any sort of

54:41 Reason why it is required to be a July first versus in August first even something that’s like a four week time frame. Like is there any sort of requirement other than that’s what how and when we’ve done historically official year. Yeah Darkness for you, but people get go but that only requires for but that wouldn’t be applicable to a volunteerism. For money. So yeah, there were the statutory ones which are the time ministrator. And again, that’s Factor. Yes commissioner. Those are required for July first, but there’s no reason the cycle needs to start for volunteer positions. Yeah. I think that’s focused on honestly. So this question right if I may not get here.

55:27 I mean, I think I think I want to pick up in your point about enough space to talk about it. Yeah, and I think part of this is just being I think we can do better jumping where of the conversations that are happening more level and there’s a lot of space down there. You know. Below our purview that is happening. It kind of right it’s kind of the bubbling up of you know, participatory government doesn’t all become not saying yeah, I think you do have a tremendous amount of You know authority to do to say to say that we want to say but I just think that you know, there is there is a lot of discussion. I think a lot of it’s just awareness frankly when I first came on. Yeah, I was on infinite number

56:12 10 years. I didn’t know I feel possible names. I still you know, so I had to learn who who was here who was who was getting nominated during the year. It was like it said there is there is a space to discuss it is being discussed. But it also it had properly inside. It’s not like work kind of dictating every point or every volunteer that comes before. It’s perfectly legit for for matters of the become this or the select board to advance people and encourage people to move. So respond here. It seems to have worked pretty well past, you know. And a reference system, you know, so you get friends and you just there’s a network way. There’s a network space where we’re all these

56:58 people come up. They volunteer community dedicated, you know, it’s it’s not a bad system. I’m just saying so I think I I just don’t make sure I don’t want you to the information is that I think it is about someone that’s okay. Just Want to bring it to the point that there’s two very solid concerns that I have experienced and just felt the need to voice that and I and like I said if the timeframe is set. Based on we should the fiscal year then there’s some things that are part of the fiscal year and there’s some other things that if it’s not part of the fiscal year, it allows that opportunity for someone to educate themselves. Yes as they’re coming into the police where they

57:43 can be. Able to vote from a from a knowledgeable place. I think you make that’s the best point I think with response because I think it’s just that it’s a function of becoming aware of this list earlier so that when these are presented absolutely you want to change one. So I think that is something we can I would be you know in favor of working on. Something that I guess we kind of take for Grant because we know that the people involves they’re over years people come in here comfortable process is a very very much to network. I think it’s a beautiful system. Frankly. It’s very robust. We get a pretty decent title and people there’s always you and so I for example I’m saying com that is

58:28 you know. I have really heard a couple of people to step forward, you know, and and I think that’s part of what we the board can do and you know, it’s super important I think and I’m very, you know, I’m personally very proud of the other fully staffed really smart. And I think you can do the same. I mean, it’s not and I think that’s not a way it works and but other times the the chair being humble identified someone and say hey one fine. That’s kind of way. It works. So I think part of this is just being you know, if you got if I hear you on the space discussion space, I hear you want to be inform and you don’t want to be told that’s right. I get it get it questions. How do we get information to you before?

59:15 Stand here. Okay, please so um I so it sounds like that. You are also your willing to entertain the discussion and you understand that. The two of us like taking this off this this cycle would be a step. I don’t think it’s Michael. I mean us getting familiaries with before the before today happens getting more working, but you don’t necessarily know Zoom to know the board. I make up on the board before you know.

59:55 so it’s kind of Yeah, I mean it’s it’s consistency and then maybe you should have studied this before the day been 12 hours after your school. So we get cigarettes. We got to figure that’s why I think she’s proposing. I think that’s what the motion proposes it allows for six monthly appointment. Yeah, it allows for a six month appointment. And I mean am I or you can help position? No. Okay, so it’s okay. I couldn’t I couldn’t tell so I think that that’s why you know a second and emotion because I think that I don’t I disagree with the idea that is disrespectful to have a conversation about how it would improve upon the conduct of business like that. We do here. I just disagree with

1:00:42 that. I think we’re just asking about having a discussion and I I also wonder like you know in terms of educating ourselves around what other towns do. I know you said that this is in line with that stress practice, but like respectfully a pretty much put together an exhaustive list of towns in the ways that other boards do it and Municipal Mass multiple Association. It’s like word and for you know, and I think that that’s just I don’t understand why we wouldn’t be willing to have a conversation and why it’s disrespectful to volunteers that have been serving for many many years that we would even have a conversation. I just disagree with that. I mean, I think I think I think that you’re confusing one thing with another because I do believe that it’s disrespectful to not

1:01:27 appoint these people tonight. I really do and that’s okay. So I hear that you want to do something about it, but I don’t like you. I don’t think you can you can do this and you can you can talk about it later. Listen, can I don’t believe you can put all these people who are not.

1:01:53 We’re expecting to be serving again. I just don’t I just I think it’s this respect. I think I’ll do a second. I think it’s disrespectful to the two members who express interest not to be considered or interviews alongside others who have been serving for very long time because we’re ready to produce. You know, that’s that’s we’re not here. I think it is challenging. I think what we’re trying to do. Is yeah, I think we just try to find a process. And by the way, we can have the discussion. Let’s sit down and talk. And you know, I would like to weigh the impact of any of those. Great. I’m not you know, if you know, and I don’t I think that

1:02:38 As I’ve expressed I mean the system and emerald head does a lot of things really well. I think we’re more model for other communities and doing water. You know out there not the same can’t learn best practices from other places. Like that’s a true, but I would put up our rate of participation any account in Massachusetts and we are well run down to a lot of reasons to be you know, and I understand that, you know. It sounds like you want the board to have more important than to who gets teed up for this week. I mean that’s you know, I want to understand clearly or is it just really a question of understanding would you likely to go? Up to the up to these different. Nomination, so I think there’s a

1:03:24 couple different parts of that and part of it is. one timing Of a ability to when you’re talking about like the timing of the reappointments right and coming into whoever is new on the board that the timing does happening with that 24 hours and what that process is in. How do you solve for that? And I think that’s where I’m not looking for it on my own. I’m just saying that’s the point of having the discussion is to say look. I’m presenting what my concerns were. They were my concerns when I arrived here, you know in 2021. I experienced that and I’m sharing it. Also, you know the three of you have been here a long time. So I’m telling you as a someone who sat here last year.

1:04:11 This was a real uncomfortable place to be in and to be put in a place where I had to abstain from votes because there wasn’t the ability to be a part of the process of and it was simply because of the timing so I think how do you control for that? Where in the space that we control for that and that’s why I asked you like what would when it’s how is what is the appropriate timings? I understand. And I don’t think there comes a point where you have to in some ways or when I came on the board. There was a lot of hidden now and I didn’t raise the issue because I didn’t know. Right. There’s there’s plenty of opportunity to have a talk with me to have to talk with Jim and jacking around, you

1:04:56 know to talk about why is this person getting appointed? Your concerns about the status of different communities and conditions. There’s 24 hours. So then at that point because you so at that point is you member just abstaining because you’re voting with the 24 hours Moses. You can’t there’s no points to get to become and that’s that’s my concern. There will be the people that come on to the board and I’ll just Echo the same thing that I felt the same way. I share her. I share her experience. And I’ll leave it. Okay, that’s true. Look let’s let’s I think this is useful. I don’t I don’t I think it’s something we can discuss it as a group. And find some solutions forward and

1:05:42 we don’t necessarily need you know again. I’m always on. As I remember. Like there’s a way to talk through this and I know that I was spending most of my time, you know asking questions about stuff. This is a lot of stuff in the town. It’s very complex. We have a huge industry workers. Okay, but I think for tonight I’d like if I could like just move the discussion along and you did make a emotion as much well actually, you know, you didn’t promotion so I mean you didn’t make a motion so I made my own I mean you may God you

1:06:26 No, okay. So we haven’t we have a motion. We have a second. I think we should do a whole load or should we yeah all in favor. all opposed

1:06:44 please letters out to everybody.

1:06:49 She receives letters back whether or not they wish to continue to serve that happens in. He was made pretty much right. So there’s no reason why you can’t make this available to yourselves. I genetic it’s yes, I was going to suggest there is a practice that happens that leads up to this woman. Right? And so you want if it’s helpful is for us to summarize and says, what is the practices that leads up to this because this doesn’t happen in the back. And on one night. There is there are things that happen leading up to it. So it’s helpful. We can share that summary of this is the practice and we use leads up to the list that you see at this and

1:07:35 we take a crap. Like I said, I’m not presenting Solutions. I’m asking for Solutions. That’s the part of bringing it to here to say. Look. This was a concern. Let’s yeah, that’s a start right is giving that opportunity. I think it’s a circle. I don’t think we’re confused about the practice. Like I fully aware that that’s how I does it and I think you are too. I think we’re where the practice I think it’s just let’s discuss how this is so like let’s discuss That’s the conversation unless you last week.

1:08:08 Do this a week later? What would that what would you know nothing the other day you’re talking and music and we have a week later this Yeah, so I think what I’m just yeah because I well I think it’s trying to understanding. Yeah, is there a set, you know, like obviously then the fiscal year that’s you know, that’s a reality. So obviously here you’re okay coming up against the fiscal year, but that’s super tight right to complete that. So I think it’s about was trying to understand from a more holistic process is September 1st some sort of you know arbitrary timeline. That’s more important than July first or just starting to understand what right like what what how did often with things like this? My first question is

1:08:53 why how did we end up here? Right and then so maybe there’s a very obviously with the point of you know, having the paid positions. That’s a obviously very logical reason why we ended up here and it could just be inertia. We ended up here with the rest of them because it falls in line and that’s the timing so that was my original question. Just trying to understand. Okay, how do we get here? And then we’re you know, where do I go? And how do you present? Okay. These are my concerns. It’s okay. I think that’s something that’s your point. Now, you’re listening plus well taken. I think that it’s a discussion I think we’ve got an action right around us. So let’s try it. Yeah, okay. So I’m gonna go ahead and proceed as I I mentioned earlier on the 2020 to the appointments.

1:09:39 The motion is to accept the following appointments except those based on a whole in accordance with the town bylaws. down into this trigger battery W Keyser 2023 America’s American Disabilities Act coordinated Kyle a wiley to 1923 animal inspector Daniel pulitz 2023 Building Commissioner and inspectors commissioner John Albright local inspector Eric Newman plumbing inspector Bradford Smith assistant public inspector Peter mcaris memory Harrison assistant funding inspector greater than Giovanni wiring inspector. Ronald J. Marks assistant Wireless inspector Eric as Chism all for 202. Canine control clerk Robert Michelle kind of political

1:10:25 2023 assistant dot officer for the parks Peter James all for 2023 Peter James Brown DeLisle Greg snow Sam Andrews, John bobicki John the city of the Seco. Sorry to Seco. Over 2023s. I said Town Council Jeffrey and shriveman assistant Town Council. We are doing Perkins and kesten Leonard. Kesten Mark Miller Patrick Costello all for 2023 me tellerman and Costa LLC Frances Mayo Deutsch Williams a Dutch Williams. He’s all for 2013 as well. Council on Aging Lisa Hooper 2023 Emergency Management coordinator Chief Jason

1:11:10 argilliland 2023 Charles peace or routine assistant 2023 financer director Michael carrite interim 2023 flag officer David Rogers 2023 forest for when you return Jason Gilliland for her Department.

1:11:30 Harbor Master and assistance All of these are for 2023 Mark Souza Harbor Master Craig Smith, Deputy Harbor Master. And these are the list of assistant Harbor Masters John Payne and Matt Mills Chad Osborne Saint Rose Jared Russo Elmer Hurley, Sam Worley Matt Thompson, and there’s a list of Alternatives as well Alan Dennis Felix. Ainsler Jeffrey Flynn, Daniel Cahoon, Jack loveday Ryan boy all for 2023 Keeper of the lockup. He Dennis came 2013 Authority delete designated agents. He’s Dennis Community. 2023 Captain Matthew Freeman.

1:12:15 all for 2023 read the lieutenants Jonathan Luntz Michael Everett David ostravitz Sean Sweeney sergeants, Sean Brady, Jason, Conrad, Brandon Finnegan area a safe again 2013 Measure of leather of leather John Schmidt 2023 Town designee Mass. Water Resource Authority Carlton Siegel. The alternate is aiming the Q is the water commissioner a commission in 2023. Parking alert, Jeffrey shredman 2023 Chief procurement officer Becky cutting Rebecca Perry cutting 2023 Public Works director and Q 2023 records access officer, Kyle Wiley 2023 Retirement

1:13:03 Board. The term is for three years Charles Gessner 2023 2015. Thank you.

1:13:15 that again is Charles Gessner Retirement Board events 25 right to know coordinator Jason R Gilliland fire department 23 sealer of wasting measures David Rogers together with three special auxiliary police patrolman James Donovan. And John Albright post-2023. Tax collector Treasurer Michael Grady 2023 Tanner engineer Charles quickly 2023 veterans agents and director veteran services David Rogers veterans a Graves officer David Rogers 2013 workers compensation agent, Massachusetts that answer 2023. It’s the Massachusetts interlocal Insurance Association. Town accountant Chris hole act 2023 affordable housing

1:14:03 trust fund in terms for one year select board Kurt James Christie Staples at large and dirt is Branson at large. Alter 2013 Armed Forces. Liaison Harry see Christiansen 2023 Board of that at library second century fund at one year term Peter gelberg and Judas eister 2023 people television advisory committee. Again. It’s liaison. Term is one year and Robert heck is the liaison 2023 caretaker for beach again one year term David Rogers 2023 chaplaining Myrtle head Police Department one-year term Reverend James Bixby for 2023

1:14:49 Concertation commission and this is a term for three years. So they’re all I need 2025 Christopher maiola, just Harlan Alderman Kate milanston. Constipates for the purpose of serving civil processes as a one-year term 2023. I’ll read them off study Douglas Perry Mark. Anuzzi, Mr. Come on John Walsh Julia. Schilo, Miami. Resident Oso Gabrielle, Cindy Diaz, Michael Dobie. All those are constables for the purpose of servings in the process constables for shellfish. Raymond H Bates Is that right? Oh, they

1:15:37 haven’t understood. Okay. Okay fine. Okay, so they’re all okay. I thought that was supposed. Okay, so thank you for that shellfish term one year 2020 feet Raymond H Bates David donkey, Jeffrey Flynn Perry Christian Craig Smith, Douglas Aikman Douglas person. Alright Holly 2023 Council on Aging I’m assuming this is 2025 again. Thank you. Marjorie Shay, Karen, Genesee.

1:16:11 Is this a full board? He’ll be one vacancy that I read the end of someone reached term limits this year. Is that a holder? No disappointed Factor. Okay at the end of all the vacancies there. Yeah, there was someone who has turned one. That’s financially. Yes too, right?

1:16:29 Okay Emergency Medical Services Council Jason 2023 fair housing committee three years staggered. I’m assuming they’re all to that 25 right? Hurricane James Hollister Terry McDonald housing for you. Finance committee term is three years again staggered. So we’ll two that are up for this 5020 25 Timothy shockmeyer, Tara Samuels. Fireworks committee one year Alexander Faulk who’s been doing a heroic job for many years Fort Sewell oversight committee our one year’s term. I’m assuming it. Yeah,

1:17:15 it’s all 2023 Charles Gessner. Becky cutting temp planner Peter James reckon Park Department, Larry Sands. What club is regiment Judy Anderson at large member had Lang disabilities commission and Christine new parents will at large as well. Harbors and Waters board, this is turn one here. Again. 2023 John Doe go Gary Gregory Jay Michelle Kenneth Breen T Clark Smith, and we have three alternates again for 2023 as well. Chris Hood Rick cousin Peter verbose. Hold on.

1:18:00 anything specifically on either the alternates or the or the ordinals scoreboard Thank you. Next is Hazard mitigation plan implementation and monitoring team term one year 2023 all of the Jason guiller of the plan prior Chief Charles Quigley fan engineer into the Q superintendent Water and Sewer Becky cutting Town planner William Conley historical Commission. We have a historian for one year 2023 Dawn Oliver before commission three years staggered and there’s two for 2025 Bill Conley and Peterson.

1:18:45 probably

1:18:48 For historical commission more disappointed fabrication if we have received any of letters of interest for that or I don’t know I can’t remember. I may have one from while ago, but he had stated to ask to put it on files. I think you would have gotten it it came from. Chris Johnson I can check for you. Okay, so

1:19:11 Up all the colorful Council term three years and in 2025 Yahoo! Marblehead disabilities commission three years Cheryl alone and your Mountain Richard Ramos all 2025 either they’re stagger terms. And just the same clip just a point of information and we had any Learners of interest for that. No, you just appointed Richard. Yeah, right you yeah.

1:19:48 Okay. The model had forever committee term one year do that for 2023 Karen Lang Linda dolitor Terry that electronicity and our pal Wiley. Massachusetts ethics commission is a one-year term Municipal Liaisons Jeffrey driven the 2023 Massachusetts board authority advisory committee Charles Gessner is for one year 20023 hold of historic district commission. So when your turn all of these regions asking for three Bob bragton Gary Abraham Burnett Charles Hibbard Marriott.

1:20:27 And there are two Alternatives Duncan facie and Michael flenberg just a point of information. I seem to remember we did get a letter of interest on that board.

1:20:38 I think we disappointed I give you deployment checks. Yeah, and that kind of wanted my life, I think. all last year Michael yes, we added something. There’s no outstanding here.

1:20:58 All very own health oversight committee hermine year Betty hunt Stanley Goodwin pan Peterson Alex Finnegan and Becky cutting Talent. Okay, so Richard Petty and so his offering

1:21:16 registrar voters term is three years in 2025, Robin Michelle work. My sister city liaison in the last France. It’s a one-year term. It’s Miriam Zuber for 2023. In a task force against discrimination all of these are for one year and in 2023 Elaine has it a Hazlet a deacon John Whipple Christopher Royal Scott Marcus restolver canvas. Slimy Chief Dennis King ex officio Diana Aura Celia slimy our student.

1:21:58 Taxation Aid committee the one-year term Pamela Floyd. For 2023 Lisa Hooper Bonnie greniere Michael Perry day. He was a Treasurer ex officio John Kelly Kelly Ford Assessor’s ex-official member of the taxation all thank you guys from three town physician one year quadrant health strategies. 2023 tree War Jonathan Fuller 2023. It’s owning board of appeals. This is a five-year term. for Leon drachman Is that correct in 2025md?

1:22:44 Is that a 36? But you study 27. Yes. I never get this. Oh, no, that’s fine. Yeah, so find some Leon is on for for five years until 2025 2027 Zone deals. The alternate is one year though alternates. I should say is one year and 2023. They are Christopher Casey Bruce Bruce crafter and William. Okay, and I asked I have a question. Please don’t shelf responsible. our chief constable that is a three-year term and Jackie you’re in the middle of that right now. You’re right. I wouldn’t I didn’t say anything.

1:23:31 I found this one. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn’t. It was gonna get hel. D. Okay. So at this point, I’d like to go back and review the holes. We had one whole and water or no first. Yeah. Thank you.

1:23:55 I want other jobs, please. Go ahead. Can somebody let me what is the measure of leather that’s required in autonomous day in Massachusetts? So really don’t have anybody in this point, but when everybody had many times had rather. manufacturers and then right to no coordinator there was that

1:24:21 okay during Anything have they come remains. We have a great job. actually Thanks another coordinating role. That’s right here.

1:24:39 Well, since we don’t even shoot a manufacturing factors the measure of leather his family’s. Oh no other company forever like TV.

1:24:52 So if everybody’s ready, I’d like to make a motion to accept the appointments that we just that I just read off will be exception of those placed on whole in accordance with the town by thoughts and some second all those in favor. Okay, the vote is unanimous. I’d like to proceed that the fold. and

1:25:17 magnitude I do have a comment on Harbors, you know on the Harbor room. Yes, I don’t think I can I can vote in favor every appointment for the reasons. We’ve discussed, you know, excessively and being namely that there’s two interested members and in the board and I don’t know we have it. I’m looking forward to having a discussion about the process and reviewing a policy. Look, I appreciate the that observation. I don’t know if Anybody has any any comments?

1:25:57 Okay.

1:26:01 Yeah, I think generally there there is a process the state to be Progressive confidence to do that. so you speak much about that. Well, I mean we do have at the stadium. And appeal process to confirm there is a conflict or not. I don’t suggesting there’s a conflict. No, just no. No, I was just saying that I’m interested in front. There’s two interested candidates that want you. Well, there’s two interest candidates for the exactly the same exact reason that we had discussion. So that’s why I’m misunderstood. Oh, yeah. I appreciate it. Okay.

1:26:43 okay, so let’s go ahead and like to make I’m prepared. Is is everybody in the comments?

1:26:54 Okay, like a make a motion to approve the appointment of the Harpers and Waters board as was previously red including the audience that okay, the alternates were not they started yesterday.

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1:27:18 yes. The three digit you get that. Yes. Thank you. Thank you historical clinician where they’re just yeah. Okay. Thank you and I can cross seven. Oh, that’s great. Okay. Well, thank you for all those that have gone here. Yeah, I do want to thank everybody.

1:27:50 And in that in that vein, we do have Bank vacancies like to encourage, you know as many applications as possible. Anyone interested in serving all these boards and committees should submit it cover letter and a resume to the select board. when he Washington Street And why Kyle is the contact for that at Wiley? Hey the w-i-l-e-y-k at marbleheads.org. For those that are interested in the strong encourage everybody. Anybody who’s interested to collide in the following boards? There’s the affordable housing trust funding. It’s a one year term. There’s one vacancy there. Council on Aging there’s a three-year vacancy there

1:28:38 one. The design review board is a three-year vacancy warning. It’s your turn. Sorry for you can see finance committee. We have two vacancies and both of them free their terms. Marblehead cultural Council we have six vacancies in the tournament is three years and you know, the council is allowed 20 matters. It’s pretty large. chances of that that’s the reason for the large number of agencies the Marblehead forever committee term one year is one vacancy task force against discrimination is one vacancy for one year term. Zoning board of appeals one basic state

1:29:24 as an alternate member and the government one year.

1:29:30 I’m going to encourage anybody to get just telling my collection useless for anyone who’s listening tonight or anyone in the audience. What would be the recommendation if I’m looking at this and you know, let’s say I’m interested you’ve read off the something sounds it takes my interest. What would you recommend that someone you know, where would they go to get it more information? Where would you send them? Obviously, they’re gonna send any email but if they’re trying to say, you know, I’m interested. What is that? What is that look like should we send them to the website? Like what’s the best site for it? Just to anyone who’s listening. So they know yeah, that sounds interesting. What should I do? Right? Yeah. Look. I mean, I I think that’s right. I mean, I think the proced role to be considered obviously because thank you send it to

1:30:18 cover letter an expression of interest and a resume. But in terms of talking to people getting contact board members, they can contact I would suggest they go to town administrators of primary contact to be able to direct first to to talk about what their position involves and then to and then to direct to direct that person to the appropriate board member usually begin for and usually attend a meeting and speak to somebody on that board. That’s right. And I do it anybody to Define actually has a wonderful information and meaning it’s the updated on the website tomorrow. Yes. Thank you. That’s great. So we stronger you will have conversations and just go into the slightly and

1:31:04 speak to his own workers. Usually people that How easy to do an interesting and those are applications they have yeah. Okay, thanks. I think there’s a we’d like to make an appreciate emotion for an appreciation. Just to send a letter of appreciation to all those who did not see the appointments this year or who reached term limits for their service to the town. That’s something eventually do that. So many people here Saturday all in favor. 14 minutes and compiler is there is that that listed him here right there way to

1:31:50 access that list. Oh, I can ever people who didn’t seek reappointment. Yeah. They’re just Disturbed. Just I think it’s great to see and you know like yes someone else they to be able to say yeah when we saw your signal letters. Yes, right. Yes to make sure that I just be aware. That’s right.

1:32:10 Thank you that the next item on our agenda are the fishing shanties down at the harbor and the motion is to renew the following request request. to use premises owned by the town of Marblehead on Front Street at Little Harbor commonly known as Turner Lane subject to the receipts of the proper application current fishing license and all taxes paid to the town. Frederick Fred Loeser chanting number one Stephen Byrd changing number two, Jeff Flynn Shanty number three John Burns changing number four William Powers changing number five. Daniel Rhodes changing number seven William Brown the second Yankee number eight and David

1:32:58 Rogers shaking number nine. Don’t have an ocean. Okay all in favor, but with animals.

1:33:12 Okay. So this next item is the parking regulations. For July 4th, so it involved. Yeah. Involves a motion on recommendation from the chief of police. To improve the following temporary street closures and traffic regulation. So Monday July bear with me here is I read out something street cameras Monday, July 4th 2022 for the Horrible’s parade that the rain date will be on July 10 2022 beginning at 9:00. Am Pleasant Street will be closed between Spring Street and Washington Street South and Spring Street will become one way from Pleasant Street to Fort Sewell Essex Street

1:33:59 would be closed in its entirety during staging and movement of the parade. Okay, that’s horrible. Spray fireworks. Display, July 4th 2012 rain date is Tuesday, July 5th 2012. Beginning at 7pm Front Street will be closed to all traffic and no parking between Franklin Street and Fort slolay Franklin Street becomes one away from Front Street to Washington Street Washington Street becomes one way from Franklin Street to State Street. And after the fireworks traffic leaving the beach parking lots will merge with traffic leaving the neck and be allowed only a right or left-hand turn at an intersection of Ocean and Atlantic Avenue. Front Street is closed at State Street to allow for

1:34:46 pedestrian traffic along Front Street coming from Fort Sewell State Street becomes one way from Front Street to Washington Street all traffic from the area between State Street and Franklin Street as well as Pond Street will be directed along Montford Street and Green Street to Westwood Drive. Note that the MBTA route between the hours of 6PM and 11pm will follow the pre-designated snow. finally for the Festival of Arts Street Festival Monday July 4th, 11:30 am to 3:30 pm. Washington Street is closed between Rockaway Street and Darling Street both Rockaway and darling. Please remain open to public Cooper Street disposed between Tucker

1:35:33 Street and Washington Street, Mason Street is closed between Thomas Street and Washington Street. No parking allowed along Washington Street between Rockaway Street and Darling Street. Um, there’s a note here on the subject of open. It is strongly recommend anyone anxiety or conducting business in that area relocate your vehicle’s pride and 11:30. And so it was not good Dennis came. So that is the motion. On recommendation from the police to have a motion so second. Okay almost in favor. Okay is wound.

1:36:13 Okay license agreement private grain connection. This is for 104 140 West Shore Drive.

1:36:27 and

1:36:31 you know, I don’t have a party attack agent indicated several pages.

1:36:38 Some of them is that yes, it’s it’s for some upgrade system integrated. Yeah. Okay. So the motion is

1:36:49 to approve or to approve the license agreement for private connection the town training system as presented between the town and Eugene forest. Dunsco and Inna and in that so much my love. 140 West Shore Drive Okay.

1:37:20 Okay, this is

1:37:27 great the fun part. to

1:37:35 to proclaim the motion is to Proclaim honorary marbleheader status. to all out of town visitors from July 1 to 4 2022 Stating quote you are one of us tonight a true header Baza. I think that’s in the spirit of General Spirit of including things. Yeah celebrate that whether emotion to approvements like okay.

1:38:12 I think it’s a great idea and I look and in favor of it, but just Honorary in the sense that like out of time visitors will still be paying to go to the beach great. first time rhymes Baby respect that yeah. Yeah, no fair enough. I think at this point as we all know the festival virus has been. Doing their very best last year as we all are very excited for this. better than ever Yeah, hoping for great women.

1:38:51 Okay, so I think there’s a lot I hear you up. So that’s okay.

1:38:58 Sorry, that’s my favorite. unanimous old new business just a notification for holiday hours Avatar and married eight count building Abbott Hall and Mary a alley building will be closed on Monday July 4 20

1:39:23 And I think that brings us. To the end of our agenda except to say this anybody. Have a comments before we I’m gonna I’m gonna recognize a gentleman here. Please return a minister. It’s yeah, I don’t have any new updates. Okay, I’m gonna continue. Yeah. Yeah. I’m gonna have a routine. Stop on that and look to you and I will I love a stupendous reporting.

1:40:01 Well before we put a little time comes from 40 sir. Would you like to would you like to say wait wait where you’re living hell that question. If you go to the I don’t know Michael and thank you. Thank you for waiting. So long really? 64 Roosevelt Avenue, a comment a couple questions one. I tried to call you Monday. It was a holiday. It says account administrator is Jason so so I mean he’s been gone for several months. So if I want to leave a message, I don’t think he’s going to be here. Okay, it’s awesome. He’s feeling he’s lost the phone number. I don’t think that thank you other thing. I’m really concerned about the sign board of doctor the fire chief call the police department the sign would you know that they have

1:40:46 the speed on and shopping Marblehead different locations throughout the town. I got one less like your eye and Waterside Road, it had the speed limit on it. Yeah, and then it had now it has on Village Street and Pleasant Street Vine Street, excuse me, and Pleasant Street. I mean, yeah, I don’t know what it means, but it’s in a real dangerous location you pull out of water Side Road, you got to cross walk right after. Side roads are very dangerous road the cars go down and go 40 miles an hour and then they slow down at big trucks from the dump in the community store are going on the other side at night. A painter across the street always parks along the road. They’re very very tight. They’re not registered. They have no plates on them. I worked

1:41:33 for the state. I don’t know. I spoke to Jason several. Over a year ago still no license place unemergency Vehicles follow along. You know, we’re encouraging people Dr. Park Elementary vehicles on the road. You’re supposed to have an Municipal plates like other places supposed to and the now is a contractor bringing him in there was one on Military by Hawthorne Road yesterday, and it was obstructing. The sidewalk and there was one down at the national Grand bank right after Starbucks. They moved that one since but this big buses in approx that come that wrote all day. It’s really was overhanging and I worked for the state to place those I believe fire because I had to go pick up pieces when

1:42:21 they were insane places that they’ve got hit but someone’s really gonna get hurt on the passenger side of the car. They moved the one from the size of them who is enormous. They should just be putting down there and releases Done Construction down there and the gas company they put either three-foot sign to 48 inch signs on the telephone poles in taking up parking spaces. And so they’re right by crosswalks and traffic lights. They used to have one in front of the fire station and there’s a crosswalk right around the corner and I spoke with Fire King and I’ve seen people looking at that the light changes. I mean, you wouldn’t put it real close to what did to say stop and Marblehead. If you have an emergency in the roads closed she could put it, you know in the

1:43:07 middle of the road, but I really think someone’s gonna be hurt once one of these A hit in the very expensive. So I don’t know who decides the police department apparently tells the fire department to put them out and I don’t know like I say the locations. Sometime I’m really really dangerous. They’re gonna slow the traffic down definitely because they’re once they’re open especially the size of the new ones that the contractors use it. I mean, they’re all overwhelming and that supposed to be Pleasant Street. You got people all day long walking along with baby. Like if you’re looking at that side for a split second and the light changes or you don’t see some kid behind these because they’re up high. Yeah. I mean, I just think it’s calm and sad so, I don’t know why. Could have been a safe place if you’re going to put them before someone gets

1:43:55 hurt. So I don’t know who decides on that the other question that I had. Okay was about your contract. Is that is that just a the finance department or you know, the water and sewer has computer systems the light department has the school system as computer systems. So I hope we’re incorporating all the other Town departments because in the past water and sewer and I think school and electric light. We’re using different vendors. So maybe there’s a way that we can accumulate to say to town money and we’re going to have another full-time person, you know, because after they get it’s set up and the bugs out of it, you know, we might be able to save a lot of money instead of having a contract here in a contract there and I don’t even know the harbor Master’s Enterprise finding they

1:44:42 could be having another contract. So if there’s a way to incorporate the whole town and share services That’s what my question was. So maybe you could answer that. Yeah. Look I’m on my understanding is that it is you know, it is for the for the town side and certainly in a finance area. That is you know, I just run completely out and asked Department. That’s why I actually want the locusts, you know is where the focus of all the technology is, right because it’s leverage across town. Right? So, you know my understanding this is all the holy price. This is for though. This is for the whole Enterprise for the whole town. So it isn’t it’s going to take kind of scary. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. It’s a great question because I don’t know exactly, you know

1:45:27 money because I’m sure you stay in the stock. You know, I think that’s it. Then you vote on something that I can pay for and that was the only you know, I’m not happy day. You might have been up to date on on the question. But like I say it was asked Mark snow used to be on a community. Yeah, he was a financ. Is there’s a ways that I hope these departments can all utilize the same system and maybe save the town. Well, I think that’s why they’ve been hired us to get category. But listen, we really appreciate your concerns fresh out on the roadway stuff. And I think the chief was listening you okay what you’re saying? Okay, you know, we’ll yeah and like I say, I think those signs are Overkill the size of yep, and then I’ve never seen that type of the bigger than I think

1:46:15 what the state has. I don’t know where they get used from the state. Yeah, okay, but appreciate you you hanging around okay to tell us. Thank you. You want some of the questions? Yes, sir. Go ahead Joe, okay. Yeah, hold on Chief. Yeah, I’m sorry. No, please James this into a mile road. I do just have some comments on question one. Congratulations, but The first question is semantics. Is it Mr. Chair now that we’re agenda neutral Wars or is a chair and you don’t have to answer that right now. So I feel very good. Okay, thank you. Thank you. So anyway, congratulations on question one. You’ve got a big pile of money, which is good. You have a laundry list of stuff Bruce

1:47:02 rose taxology with Chief with multiple owners too. And that is it just a bit of a concern is something to think about and I think given any of the technical things can happen or Rose and you know, I know Mr. Chair you mentioned a concern about inflation going forward to that. You’d run the risky at the end of the five years and not getting them wondering list done because you run out of money and that that’s just a very real risk. And so I just have a couple comments. I’m assuming the way it was presented at town meeting, but it was difficult to concerned the way the question was written

1:47:49 it. The roads will have a separate bucket of money to manage to move well in Southwest. I hope that’s the case because obviously don’t want to have nice roofs and then tell everyone still sink at five years which you know, and I so you got that on the control. The other thing is the priority list with a different owners and I’m hoping you have those prioritize so you don’t want to get the end the end and of course it the chief left that the schools have nice. Girls and the Franklin Street is not done or at least when you do that, everyone had that expectation that and I just that will be integrated part of our Capital plan. Okay, so there is a there is a method in and I would say that do that right as

1:48:36 soon as you can. So the people you know, and the other thing I would advocate for and actually David Harris around going school committee person almost gratitude. I really encourage you to set up particularly for the rooms. Maybe the roads is some sort of building committee where you’ve got multiple roofs over years and as a certain level of expertise and I think value engineering that’s going to have to be done with those to keep those in line and it’s going to be a little tricky because you have schools involved but maybe you know combine committee that watches over those the other good thing about that is If that Community needs regularly, you know keep the town up to date because again, I’m just thinking five years out that you don’t want people to be surprised because you know,

1:49:23 we we know particularly with inflation that everything may not get done and yeah, you know, so just declares it’s not all the roads of my life. No, I know no no, I I said there is an expectation. There’s a list of groups. Yeah in there is a list of you won’t get it and that’s why I said keep the bucket of money separately because you couldn’t have the roads at the safety that I don’t really want to do that. They have to yeah and The in each of you each had its own land like roads were well so sure. So let’s talk about that. One of the lessons we weren’t from the transfer station was Billy doesn’t matter what he said. That’s how many it’s all what it said in the question and the question

1:50:10 was very broad. It actually doesn’t list the buildings and I think it actually didn’t know that’s actually in so let’s talk about that. Yeah High School the community center again. I found my head. I’ve seen it a few times. Bob’s building, I think the county school Bill had the power away. No. No, the question just says conference will donates and another question right? But it’s been it’s been set out the article that’s been set. Up. Yeah all the notebooks on him. Again, it wasn’t learned from the transfer station. It’s the government and you don’t know. Yeah, so you just have to begin in and I did I think we’re very good. I I had I happen to have a nice discussion with that’s warmer Health agent who’s

1:50:56 holding signs and hot sun for his brother. I won’t say who it is and wait, he said the key is just keeping the community informed what’s going on as things go and I think that’s the key because there are going to be Some decisions. So anyhow, that’s it’s going to be a Super Active year on a whole bunch of friends. Yeah for five years. Yeah, and Gently, yes, just to clarifies five to six years. Yeah. Okay. What? Okay. Thank you. It sounds like you have any control but it’s just I recognition might not get through the water. I don’t think

1:51:38 Everyone that it was affirmations in the ponderable and you you raise a good. Yeah, and I just debit won’t get into statuation. Which obviously something right? Okay. Thank you. All right. Does anybody have? No Chief, I’m sorry. You have an answer. But hey chief, please. Yeah. Good evening. So easy. I’ll be able to address those. We didn’t have conversation a couple weeks back. Certainly. I related that she King. In a position that you can actually did industry take Public Safety very serious. So we’re never going to put these signs anywhere we think gonna cause a problem. Let’s discuss the registration and Licensing forever. They were purchased with

1:52:24 a granted by a cheaper. Gorilla. I had way out the door. So they were here. They were usually during covid pretty tough to get things here during covid, but it brought to our attention which we appreciate. We just the golden Meyer if the trailer really I would registered and they will be shortly first location goes, you know, it’s pretty tough thing. We’re not gonna put him on sidewalks and truck sidewalk. We can’t put him on private property. So she King and I certainly look at the location very closely to turn what they’re going to be safe sign was other than covid was here and say hey shop locally try to help our Merchants but basically useful public information snow on voting things of that such. For the size, obviously the three that we see around town over our own by the town. They’re made

1:53:10 for burning his family. What you’re seeing right now is for the Pleasant Street graphic. Those are owned by the dot. So they’re made for highways. It didn’t Escape us Chief King and I and Captain Freeman talked about it. We have access through the homeland security we get cash site in their back, but we can actually bring a smaller ones that we have to so that options out there, right? Thank you. Appreciate the response. Yeah. Thank you.

1:53:35 Anybody else? Yes, so I’m Work right at you, and I didn’t know so please I’m bored. you yes. Yes. I mean with food from 24 Longview Drive welcome and I just wanted to speak to the question about the boards accessibility not this board but the idea of volunteer boards and how to keep people coming in and I would respectfully offer that there are I think quite a few maybe younger people don’t know how the towns works. Whatever who are someone just enfranchised by the current system, even though I think like a lot of you, you know each other like I was standing here Jack holding signs that you know, and the intersection

1:54:21 there by the community center and I’d be waiting, you know and every week but it turned out everyone was waiting at Jack and the traffic stuff. I say same experience, you’re not alone. I was born here. I left you on this 18 and I was 34. I’ve lived here ever since and I was very impressed by how many people you know that I had no idea who they were so I just I think within the people work hard in this town people know each other, but I think there are an awful lot of really wonderful people moving here because they are fat but they love our town. I think it’s beautiful. They want to live they want to raise their kids here and I keep discovering them in my neighborhood. They walk by with their baby carriages and I’ll see they’re doing some renovation on their house and I’ll say oh and I’ll ask

1:55:08 them. Like, I’ve I’m always I’m interested in clean energy. So I’m like, oh you’re getting splits. How did you decide to get splits? And so I just find her all these people that they were very They like to be connected, but don’t know how so I would ask you to think about. I respect Japanese point. We don’t want to say we’re booting people off, but I think if you could say okay your term is a year, but in general is going to be five years Max just because that will allow new blood and you might say well there’s a couple people that are really key on this board because they whatever they’ve been here while so we like leave that one person on longer, but I do think I mean even Harbor access just since that is a controversial one and since our people interested who it as we say get trying to get more and it’s like getting

1:55:54 on our Waters it’s harder than we can’t even worrying maybe so just I think the touch Point ones where there are a lot of interest And it would be really appropriate to have a discussion on your sales and see if you could figure out figure out a mechanism. that did say Up till now it’s always just been munching on your mind until you either die get tired or you you know, establish. You don’t want to but how about we’re starting to think about the need to bring people and maybe do a five year or something Max, you know, you’re you’re charm is one at a time and that way it would be that chance to say. Okay, let’s who can come in that wants to because I do think there are a lot of young People movie and some don’t have connections from the past. So I don’t have parents here whatever so they are pulled

1:56:40 in and I’d love to see them. I think that’s just thank you. Thank you for coming.

1:56:48 right Traffic, you can’t be the only one of them not to see that and I think it’s a great conversation to have and to to just you know, at least Brooks the conversation, but I also think that people should be just like this should be encouraged to go to our meetings it just as I’m speaking now, all the meetings are participatory good ideas are often picked up from the public that aren’t practical for the board members. Maybe there’s a maybe there’s a term that we talk about. One component that sort of came to mind when I was hearing the conversation tonight was was that you know oftentimes we have boards that and quote

1:57:33 unanimously more together. Sometimes we don’t I get scared of the possibility that that appointments get politicized and people yet put out just because of majority doesn’t want one person not not based upon what they are, you know, their effort has been or what their expertise has been and but I do think that it you know, there should be some consideration given to all sort of all the moving parts that come along with it, but just telling people that they can show up to meetings. You don’t have to be a member of a community to to be an active participant in our form of democracy. So thank you. Yeah, I could hear that. Well, leave the late and break that Judy Jacoby used to first question

1:58:20 out of her mouth is have you ever been to kind of meeting a friend of volunteers? Right and it’s in that Spirit moderator?

1:58:30 He’s waited how many years he’s been your dream ambition for how many years? Probably about 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. And we almost actually been on vacation. Yeah after being in the summer Vegas.

1:58:43 Kyle’s or anybody anything? Hey, yes. Is there anybody online?

1:58:48 No, okay motion no Journal second. On favor. Thanks. Thank you.