Select Board: June 26, 2024

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0:02 All set chair. Um, okay, I, uh, good evening everyone. I’m gonna call our meeting of, um, Wednesday, June 26th, 2024 to order seven o’clock. This meeting is being recorded via Zoom. Um, I just wanted to make a few remarks. Um, at the top of the meeting, I wanna say a few words since it’s our first gathering since last week’s school committee meeting that brought out an overflow crowd in response to multiple formal complaints of harassment and discrimination, these complaints arose from rapidly intensifying disputes among groups of school district employees, and will be independently investigated. It was heartbreaking to learn of the divisions and allegations of anti-Jewish rhetoric among school committee, school district employees, and hurt within our Marblehead Jewish community.

0:49 I wanna also just acknowledge that our Jewish neighbors, friends, fellow residents, are experiencing an enormous amount of fear right now, just living their lives simply because of their religion. We need to raise awareness and sensitivity to this reality so that everybody can feel welcome and safe here. I asked several Jewish friends of mine in town what the experience is like right now. For them, the responses were similar. They’re scared. Their lives have been shaken to the core. Many have family in Israel, and none have ever seen the level of blatant and open antisemitism as they do now. As, um, one of acquaintance, um, responded to me that as we go about our daily lives, we are seeing things in the news that are hurtful and scary. We are seeing things on social media that are terrifying,

1:35 and we are concerned for what lies ahead. They have and are in many ways continuing to experience generat generational trauma. I think Marblehead as a community undertakes a lot of proactive measures to ensure that this is an inclusive, welcoming, safe, and bigotry place, chief free place to live and work. Since 1989, the select board has supported the efforts of the task force against discrimination to discuss concerns raised by residents and promote programs that celebrate diversity in town. As a board, we have and will continue to unequivocally denounce incidences of antisemitism, racism, and homophobia. I wanna also acknowledge our police department has been honored by the staff and parents of Marblehead Epstein Hillel School for their partnership and safety.

2:21 And this Sunday, police Chief Dennis King will receive a huge honor the Stall Award, which is given by the Jewish Community Center. And I’m told that it’s the first time someone who isn’t a Jewish leader of the community has received such an award. This award, the town has countless residents actively involved in social justice causes, and we have great community based groups like racial justice team. We have an interfaith, great interfaith group of religious leaders and relationship with the North Shore, a DL. That said, it does not mean that we can’t sometimes still fall short and be able to do more as a community to express empathy, show kindness, and have heightened sensitivity in this political climate. The American Jewish Committee has a guide committee, has a guide to recognizing when anti-Israeli actions

3:07 become anti-Semitic. Sometimes it can be hard to recognize, but we must be mindful when speaking about the Israeli government or policies to not interchangeably speak of Jewish people. Political protests are essential to our democracy and criticism of the government and policies of Israel, just like any other country, is perfectly fine. But when Jews and Jewish institutions are targeted or, uh, are targeted, that is just unacceptable. Let’s be mindful of this and remind others as well, and call out anti-Semitism. If you witness it, speak up and correct the blanket characterization of Jewish people alongside state policies, people of Marblehead coming together as a community in this endeavor to make sure our Jewish friends and neighbors feel seen and welcome, makes this a better place for all.

3:54 Anybody else? Sorry, honor. Thank you, Madam Chair. Prompt you. I Okay. Thank you. Done A long time. Um, Um, So I can, can I Ask you just to take a roll call since Yes. We can take a roll call. Uh, we have, uh, one I remember. Alexa Singer, um, online. Alexa, are you, um, with us? Can you hear us? Yes, I’m here. Thank you. Present. Okay. Um,

4:23 Mr. Fox present. Um, Mr. Murray present. Ms. Singer present Here? Yeah. Mr. Grader present. Ms. Mooning present. Okay. Um, first on our agenda, we have a public hearing, um, from our Water and Sewer Commission, and this is our annual review of the storm water management plan. Okay? Okay. You’re presenting Chris tonight. Great, thank you. Are you hooked up to the screen or, I’m Not hooked up. Okay. What’s the best way to hook up? I can share the screen to Zoom. Yes, you can share through Zoom. Perfect.

5:16 Okay. So all good. You have Maggie Wheeler here? Yes. Hi everybody. I’m Maggie Wheeler. I’m staff engineer. Um, and I have a correction. It’s the Department of Public Works. That’s right. Yes. So the Drain department, um, now lives within the Department of Public Works. Yep. Um, under Amy ue, the director who is joining, uh, via Zoom, so Amy can wave. She’s not very too busy. Um, so I’m here today to talk to you about the municipal separate storm sewer system, the MS four system, uh, for short. There’s a lot of really good acronyms, so there will not be a quiz at the end. So this is our annual stormwater hearing, um, for our stormwater permit, the MS four PRO permit process is initiated

6:03 through the U-S-E-P-A, um, under the Federal Clean Water Act. The town of Marblehead has held a per permit since 2003, um, and the latest permit was reissued in 2016, um, effective 2018. And we’re currently waiting for a new one that’s supposed to be coming out. They say end year, but it’s in federal time, so that’s can mean anything. Um, so this is all under the Federal Clean Water Act, and it, um, regulates all discharges to from outfalls to our waterways. So the harbor, um, what’s really important today is to raise awareness and make sure that everyone is aware of our permitting process, um, and our storm water management plan and review of the components of that plan.

6:48 So what is a storm sewer system? It has a lot of names that it colloquially goes by. Um, sometimes it’s called drains. Sometimes it’s called storm water system, storm sewer system. Um, some people say that metal grate in the road, but there’s a lot of different things. But basically it’s this collection of structures. It’s, you can see storm drain there, um, that leads to pipes that ultimately leads to outfalls into a water body. Typically in Marblehead, that is the ocean, the harbor, um, MS four. So you can see here, it is not the same as our sanitary sewer, which is the pipe on the left. Um, it is clean water, um, but it does not go through a treatment plant. So you can see on the right that is the example of a catch basin.

7:33 They have deep sums, um, that have the opportunity to settle debris, solids, and a typical catch basin does have a hood, um, that prevents a, the pipe, the outlet pipe from transporting floatables or shes, um, to our system. So it’s not, it’s untreated. It does not go to a treatment plant, but there are measures built into it, um, that help keep the water clean. So a question for you all. Rhetorical only rain in the storm drains not quite anything that falls if you think back to your water cycle, anything that falls, um, has the opportunity to collect. When it crosses paved streets, lawns, parking lots, sidewalks, um, has a potential to become polluted. So you can see here that’s an image of a sheen

8:19 that has a potential to enter a catch basin and ultimately out in the ocean. Um, that bottom right photo was taken from the Conan Winthrop neighborhood. Um, that is pet waste bags that are in a catch basin. Um, so we’ll have a little bit more to talk about there. But, um, stormwater has an opportunity to carry pollutants that we wanna make sure we prevent. So, and as part of our federal municipal storm and water compliance, we have six primary control measures, public education and involvement, illicit discharge detection and elimination. Um, construction site and post construction, storm water management, good housekeeping, pollution prevention, and I don’t think I missed any on there, but we’ll go into greater detail. So first one is public education.

9:06 Um, we work with Salem Sound Coast Watch and Green Scapes to educate, um, all fifth graders in Marblehead. We go to the public schools and have, um, public education opportunities for the students. We post, as you can see here, this is a picture of our outfall notices that are at Riverhead STR skis and Grace Oliver’s. We have targeted scoop it pet waste Mailers, flyers, um, and we wanna make sure that we’re educating the community and providing different opportunities to educate the community on what are the drains that we have in Marblehead, where do they go, and how can we all be engaged in making sure that the water that leaves them is clean public involvement? Again, we wanna make sure that people are engaged and have an opportunity in the decision making process. Our storm water management plan is available on our Town

9:53 website, um, which is regularly updated. We have partaked in different, um, community outreach efforts. Um, this is a portal on the top right from a joint water and sewer commission effort, um, at the library, the library hosted. Um, it’s really fun to make sure that people are aware of the drains, um, and it can be fun for all people, but it’s also a very important thing that we do. So this is a big one. Our illicit discharge detection and elimination program. Um, so this is also available on our website. What is an illicit discharge? Elicit discharge discharges any discharge into an MS four, which is our drainage system that is not composed entirely of stormwater, so anything that’s not rainwater. Um, so there’s two different kinds of discharges.

10:39 There’s indirect discharges. So this is a, any runoff that may have collected some, um, hazardous waste spill, grass clippings, pet waste bags, anything like that, a leaky secret sewer line that’s unknown, or a direct connection, which is a pipe that’s tapped directly into our drainage system. Um, sometimes there are old sinks that originally went to a septic system or a dry well, um, that are or mistakenly connected to a storm water system. So we are, we are tasked with identifying and removing those. Um, one of the items today is water and current, um, MS four on for a board vote. And so that proposal, we’re actually, I’m really excited. Um, we’re gonna be doing 35 days of illicit discharge detection

11:26 and elimination investigations, um, this upcoming year. So this is like a pretty big effort. Previously we’ve done about 10 days, five or 10 days, but this is a pretty big push, um, to get some, some new investigations in town. Um, so really excited about that. Um, so yeah, that’ll be good. Um, and one thing you can’t talk about elicit, uh, connections without also highlighting some of the work by the Water and Sewer Commission. Um, so there’s a website called resum.org that has more information. Um, the illicit connections to our storm sewer system is not the same as our sanitary sewer system. Um, you think sanitary sewer, it goes to treatment plant, storm water goes to the ocean, storm sewer goes to the ocean. So the photo on the left here, you can see, um, uh,

12:15 there’s the manhole on the far right of the left photo. Um, that’s a surcharge condition. So if you have a sum pump in your basement that connects directly to a sanitary sewer, it has an opportunity to add a lot of water into your sanitary sewer and lead to, um, challenges for a sanitary sewer. So these are also illegal. So this, um, water and sewer commission is working on removing those. You can work with staff at Water and Sewer Commission if you have something like that in your basement. And they can identify different ways to, on the right, take your sum pump and connect it to a drainage basin on site or to the ground, or we can connect directly to the storm, storm drain system. Pri those are called private connections to the town drainage system. Those all get reviewed by the Department of Public Works

13:01 and brought before the board for sign off as you are familiar or will be, um, not too often, but that does happen. And our goal is always to try and manage water on site before sending it offsite. But I like to joke that Marblehead is either marsh or marble. So it’s quite a various landscape. Um, so construction site run off control. There’s some pretty good photos here. So the, the, the orange one is a silt sock. So that is an example of a silt sock around a construction site that gives an opportunity for water from a construction site that may have increased levels of sediment to settle before it discharges offsite. Um, the middle photo is a catch basin with a silt sack. Um, so that has an opportunity to collect silt

13:46 before it enters into the catch basin. And that last one is a hot one. It’s a porta-potty. Um, there’s a lot of construction that you may have seen around Marblehead. Um, a lot of porta-potties that get backed up by that. Um, so the building inspecting department and conservation commission are the ones that are overseeing this. But I just really wanna highlight this. Um, you have to have good maintenance of your porta potties. You wanna make sure it’s on a level surface. If there’s anything that goes wrong or it tips or the weather is, um, elevated and winds high wind events, it does have an opportunity to potentially dump your porta potty, which can lead to a potential illicit discharge. So that’s something that we really wanna be aware of with our construction site controls. Um, post-construction, stormwater management, if you have a large project that’s regulated under town bylaws, chapter 1 95, um,

14:33 that will, that will, it’s larger than 40,000 square feet, so it’s a little less than an acre. Um, there’s different controls that you have to implement, so some things like that could be a rain garden, but you, if you have a smaller site and you want to implement those, we do recommend those. Um, and you can see on the, the right, that’s another example of a catch basin with an inlet and an outlet with the hood. Um, good housekeeping, keep keeping and pollution prevention. This is something that we do most days. Um, we do weekly street sweeping, and we also bring to you our annual sleep street sweeping efforts. And we have annual catch basin cleanings. We also have annual trainings, um, to staff both in Department of Public Works and other departments in town, um, to make sure that everyone knows that what they should be doing

15:20 to prevent pollution. Um, some of those items include truck wash, proper truck wash, um, and different aspects like that and making sure that illicit discharge detection and elimination is followed. Again, these pictures are pretty shocking with those pet waste bags in a couple catch basins. Um, so I really wanna highlight those. Um, that’s, this is more than we’ve seen and we’ve had the same contractor for a while, so it’s definitely, I was shocked. And as were they. Um, so more about pet waste, dog poops. Dog poop waste can, has over 7 billion microorganisms. And for reference, that’s about seven times what human waste is. It can last up to four years. And the most susceptible people are older adults and children. Um, this water flows to our outfalls.

16:08 So your outfalls like Riverhead, um, STRs skis, grace Oliver’s, if there are op, if there are dog poop bags in our catch basins, that can ultimately lead to high bacteria levels on our beaches. So that is something that’s really important to highlight and make sure that everyone is aware of that also you can be fined. So, um, it with repetitive dog wa waste areas, we’ve done some f flyering. Um, we’ve previously sent letters and there are fines. Um, I know Andrew Petty’s here can and are both able to issue these fines, but, um, it is something that can happen. So please dispose of your pet waste accordingly. These are some photos, more photos from this year. So I won’t go back into the, the poop bags again,

16:55 but on the top, what middle? Um, that is the Riverhead outfall. So this is, brings me back to the Porta-Potty convent. Um, typically the water and porta-potties is that color blue. We did follow up with an investigation on that. Um, and we were not able to find a direct source. Again, there’s a lot of porta-potties in town, but it’s something that everyone should be aware of. Proper maintenance. Um, one thing about this is this email came in after hours. We do not, we, our hours are from 7:00 AM to 3:00 PM on Monday through Friday on your typical work days. Um, if, if, if it is an out out of office, out of our concern, you should reach out to dispatch and they can get in touch with our on-call person. So we’re able to respond, um, in a timely manner.

17:40 Um, that is something that is, I wanna make sure I highlight as well. Additionally, the bottom right and bottom, I guess top right, those two photos. Um, that was from a spill that was a, um, an amphi tree. It was a petrol based tree spray for fungus, I believe. Um, Hartley Graymont. And it had a, it had a, it was parked over catch base and it had a, um, tube in the truck, a pump tube break. Um, and there DPW responded within six minutes. Um, there was a pretty large response effort from many different departments in the town of Marblehead and there was some really awesome response, a coordination, a couple good lessons learned, um, but we were able to prevent any discharge from getting

18:26 into our, our harbor. So that was awesome. Um, and everyone, a lot of people in this room deserve a pat on the back and a round of applause on that. Um, so that’s a high level overview. I just wanna highlight also the photo on the right. Um, that’s a duck that was in one of our catch basins. Um, so we also get calls out there at them. There was six ducklings and one mom. Um, so we do have an affinity for ducks in the Department of Public Works, but, um, I just wanna, that’s a cute one for the end. Um, and so just remember we storm water flow is everything goes Job. Thank you. Yeah, it’s a great present. Any questions? Any questions? Comprehensive? Yeah, he’s very clear. Um, I, when if, if you have, like, if you realize there’s an unusually amount, there’s a,

19:11 you know, definitely like a spot that’s heavy with the dog waste bags. Mm-Hmm. Um, do like, have you ever reached out, does park and rec control all the trash barrels? They Do or do does the highway department put out some also? No, we do not. Okay. Yeah, it might be, I don’t know if there’s ever, like, if it’s a, becomes like a spot where it’s like, you know. Yeah, I know you guys have good communications across the different departments. Yeah, It is in fairly residential areas I should have highlighted. So the areas that’s different Yeah. Was, um, Conan and Winthrop, um, gold weight neighborhood and a few spots on the neck. So it’s pretty targeted. So we did targeted flyering. Um, we’ve previously done targeted mailers, um, hoping to get something up on the website, um,

19:58 more in the near term. Um, but we do have a lot of flyers. I forgot to bring some today, but I will leave them with Kyle in the office and I know they’re in Charlie’s office. Um, so yeah, it’s, it’s a huge bummer ‘cause it all ends up in the waters that make Marblehead amazing. So, um, it’s definitely important to raise awareness to and make sure that we’re, um, being proactive about eliminating. So I’ll definitely bring that comment back to Amy. You guys monitor those catch basins more often since you know, that’s an issue? Yeah, we do. Um, this, some of those are in some areas that have work. So when we have, um, when we have projects there, there’s catch basin, like the silt sacs like that we saw before. So those will go in and catch basin in those areas and that was one of those spots was adjacent

20:44 to one of those neighborhoods. Um, so, and we do go back and check, especially catch basins that are more than 50% full when we clean them every year, we, we calculate that and check and we do go back for monitoring as part of our permit. Yeah, good question.

21:01 Okay. Thank you. It was a lot of great information. Great Presentation. Yeah. Thank you.

21:08 Okay. Um, next we have year end transfers and I’ll ask our finance director to join us. Alicia.

21:23 Hello. Well, Evening honorable select board. Evening. Evening. This is done annually. We do our year end transfers. We look at the general ledger at the end of the year at every department and see where they’re gonna land to make sure they’re not at a deficit at year end. Lemme see if I can share transfer sheet via Zoom.

22:18 Will you set up on the screen? Yes, it’s okay. So here the fiscal year, 2024 year end transfers, uh, usually the way this is done is it usually goes before your honorable body and then I go to the fin comm Mm-Hmm. But this year I did it a little different because I was meeting with the fin comm early. So we went to the finance committee, went over this, and then I decided to bring it to your body so we didn’t have to move any meetings. Right. So you have a updated version in your book? Yes, I had to meet. Yep. You meet a few edits. So, so the total amount of transfers is $201,002 Mm-Hmm. And we transferred 5,056 out of police salaries. I confirmed with both the police chief and the fire chief of what was available to be transferred fire salaries. I transferred out 70 1001 77

23:06 for Memorial and Veterans Day. Since there was no band this year, I was able to cover 3000 7 0 5 out of there towards the veteran services budget building inspection salaries, 50,000. I transferred out of there as the commissioner. We now have a contracted IMA in place with Swamp Scott. So we just took it from mm-Hmm. The salaries and put it to contracted services. And then I moved 70 1064 out of health insurance. I moved the funds to the select board expense for 3 2 757. That is to cover the whale removal that was unexpected. Uh, $16,000 MAPC, uh, echo economic development grant match

23:52 and some, um, replacement chairs at Abbott Hall. And then interest other is to cover the short term issuance costs. I did a band this year, so that was $4,525.

24:06 And then I put, uh, 2,616 to assess her salaries that was needed. And then public buildings expensed $24,500. And by the way, the um, 2 6, 1 6, so I don’t go over is for out of grade pay. Mm-Hmm. For an employee. Mm-Hmm. Um, Go back to public buildings for the $24,500 is to cover shortfall towards their utility supplies and other in their expense line clerk expense. That was for the state unfunded mandate for all those mailings for the ballots. So I covered mm-Hmm. I covered that. Uh, 28 6 20 elections registration and again for mailing, uh, and clerk expense, 9,056

24:55 and clerk salaries. Um, longevity needed to be covered for $500.

25:01 Planning board $4,000. That’s to make sure that their fund doesn’t, their department doesn’t go into exp into a deficit. So they were in a deficit. Um, military service retirement that was for the fire department. Unexpected. That’s 19,254 coming from the fire department, salaries, snow removal, and the amount of 17,148. So each year I try to cover the snow and ice deficit instead of raising it on the tax recap as was done in the history. And then veterans benefit expense of 5,000 7 0 5. So he actually had a funeral unexpected and he had to cover some funeral expenses for a veteran. The, Any questions?

25:48 Pass any questions from the board?

25:53 Um,

25:57 elections and registration. Sorry, what, what was the 28,000 for that Two Elections? I know the ballots were the 9,000. I just Yep,

26:09 We had that covered. It’s just the extra main. So she had longevity, she had legal notices, she had postage printing forms, office supplies and other professional technical Elections Registration. Oh, sorry. And now election registration below that is to cover shortfalls she had and repair maintenance other equipment. She also had postage, like I said, $8,300 and she had printing forms. $4,000. Oh, the printing Is in there. Okay. Yeah. So was that higher? Because we had more people doing absentee been in the past. So this year The state actually sent it straight to the residents and did not tell the clerk And then back charges us. Yeah. And then the clerk had to fund and mail everything unexpected because the state didn’t let her Know. So the state now sends out for people

26:55 to register. They did that and they didn’t tell us For the first time. Yes. Yep. I remember getting that. Okay. Okay. So, um, I am just gonna need, we need a motion to authorize the following yearend transfers in accordance with Mass General Law Chapter 44, section 33 B as presented. So moved. You have a second. Second, Mr. Grader. In favor? Mr. Mario? In favor? Ms. Singer? In favor? Mr. Fox? In favor? Ms. Nun In favor. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Thank you.

27:34 Um, and that brings us to a request for, uh, entertainment license from the Beacon Restaurant. And I understand we have the, uh, owner operator. Yeah. Johnny Ray here? Yeah, if you want, you could just come to the table. Okay. That’d be great. Welcome Johnny Ray. Hi. Thank you. Don’t recognize you outside of your, uh, usual uniform. I know. A civilian tonight. Um, so we have received your, um, request. Mm-Hmm. And I guess, does this come out of, it’s, comes out of a desire to have out outside music or, uh, There, I mentioned that in there ‘cause uh, there may be some events where we wanna, uh, do like a duo or something outside for special events. Okay. Yeah. So well, typically, I mean,

28:21 historically we, I don’t think we do. We do an annual outdoor Mm-Hmm. Um, license for entertainment. Sure. But, you know, if there is that need for special events Mm-Hmm. Bring it forward as they arise. Sure. Um, we don’t just issue a blanket, like annual license for outdoor, um, okay. Mm-Hmm. So, and um,

28:50 so this is for, um, the hours of 12 noon to 1130, Monday to Saturday is the request and Sunday 10:00 AM to 1130. Correct. Um, we typically wouldn’t have, uh, entertainment on Sunday at those late hours. It’s usually just a brunch, jazz brunch, but I figured I’d just do it for the duration of the license. Okay. Makes sense. Is that, is that standard the 1130 or is it earlier? Okay. Um, it is the standard what was on the license. It is Okay. Um, transferring or requesting a renewal. Okay. Does anybody have any questions or comments for Mr. Ray? Um, alright then we need a motion to approve this request from Johnny Ray, uh,

29:36 n Castro at a NH Restaurant and Entertainment Group for an annual and Sunday entertainment license for the Beacon Restaurant and Bar at 1 23 Pleasant Street. Monday through Saturday from 12 noon to 11:30 PM Sunday is 10:00 AM to 11:30 PM subject to all fees to the town being paid and approved from the Commonwealth Department of Public Safety for Sunday Entertainment. And, um, no music to be heard from the street. So Move second. Mr. Murray. In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Ms. Newton In favor. Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. You bet. Thank you. Good luck. Good luck. We Sounds great. Sounds great.

30:21 Oh, sorry, I knew that. One more motion? Yep. For the Warwick, Um, Warwick license. Oh, for The Warwick. I’m sorry. Sorry. Yes. We need a request, um, a motion to approve this request, uh, from Johnny Rayna Castro, a NH restaurant owner. He may group for an annual movie theater license for Warwick Cinema, 1 23 Pleasant Street, subject to all the fees in towns being paid. So Moved. Second. Ms. Singer? In favor? Mr. Fox favor? Very in favor, Mr. Degrader. We got it fixed in favor, Ms. Moon? In favor. Thank You. Thank you so much. In favor.

31:02 Did I miss you? Appreciate it. Thank you. One strike against you. Okay. Next on our agenda is the approval of minutes, but, um, I don’t believe those are ready, uh, yet. So we will move on to, uh, number five, uh, the Abbott Hall, um, Eagle, uh, scout request, um, by, uh, Tyler Herb. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Would you like to come forward? And we’d love to have you at the table.

31:30 Congratulations. Thank you very Much. Yeah, congratulations. It’s quite an accomplishment. And, um, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, That’s Great. Um, do you Want me to give, like, can you tell us a little bit about it? Yeah, absolutely. Uh, yeah, so for my Eagle Scout project, I raised a little over, over, over about a little over a hundred thousand dollars to build a greenhouse, uh, and install new raised beds as well as do some, um, removal of invasive species at the outdoor classroom area of Marblehead High School. Um, and I’d like to go ahead and thank several members of the audience who helped me along the way. Go and Mr. Petty, uh, chief King, um, and several other members of the town, staff and, you know, all the people at the school have helped, uh, so big shout out to them and all the people who helped me, uh,

32:16 with fundraising along the way. Uh, so the school is working on getting utilities to the greenhouse right now. Uh, so they’re working on hooking up power, uh, and figuring out kind of how to get water out there without it freezing in the winter. Um, so it will be up and running for classes in the fall. Yeah. Excellent. So it’ll be part of the, uh, a curriculum of, uh, of some sort. Yeah. So several different, you know, classes after high school benefit from it. Uh, so the science classes, there’s hundreds of applications you can use at Greenhouse, um, for, in relation to science, you know, biology, looking at plant cells, things like that. Uh, cooking classes, you know, food that’s grown in there can be used in the cooking classes. Uh, the world language classes like to do a lot of things with food and

33:02 because, you know, they’re required by the state to incorporate kind of cultural aspects. Uh, so growing foods native to French and Spanish speaking countries around the world, uh, will be beneficial to that. Um, you know, and it also can be kind of a classroom space, uh, that kind of gets you out of, you know, the same old classroom every day and can kind of change something up. And, you know, especially, you know, maybe you’re doing creative writing in English and say, you know, we’re gonna go out to the greenhouse and write about what you see. Um, so it definitely provides a lot of pathways, uh, that students and teachers will be able to benefit from. That’s really cool. Well, additional money needs to be raised to, to maintain, do you think? Uh, likely not. Uh, there’s a lot of, you know, there’s a lot of ways

33:47 to get what we’ll need. So, you know, plants, there’s a lot of, you know, seed grants and things like that, no pun. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but, you know, burpee has a seed grant. Um, so that’s, you know, that’s one way to get seeds also. You can just take the seeds from things you grow, tomatoes, peppers, all that stuff. Really easy to just take the seeds, grow new ones, things like potatoes. You just cut off a part of a potato, put it into a potato barrel. Um, so it all depends, uh, but, you know, having that kind of sustainability in a way will obviously make it easier. Uh, and I’m sure, you know, students would be able to go and ask, Hey, you know, would you consider donating a hundred dollars worth of plants? Uh, and things like that. Um, and then the utilities will be absorbed

34:32 by the school’s utility budget ‘cause it’s such small marginally compared to everything else. It doesn’t really make an impact. What are the dimensions? Just, I, I, yep. So it’s roughly top of mind, 21 feet long by about 16, 17 feet wide. Um, so it’s a nice decent size. If you guys are familiar with the greenhouse tower, it’s slightly smaller than that. Where does it sit on the property? Um, so there’s the kind of traffic circle when you get to the front, and then there’s kind of, you know, the main entrance and there’s this wing Mm-Hmm. At the front edge of this wing, you’ll see a staircase. If you go up the staircase that takes you to something called the outdoor classroom. Mm-Hmm. And it’s right kind of in the middle of that. Um, yeah. Okay. Oh, that’s great.

35:18 A hundred thousand dollars is, uh, that’s a, that’s awesome. That’s phenomenal. Thank you know. Um, and I’ll just for the sake of, uh, the public, it, the, the project required over 600 individual hours and a combined over a combined total of 1500 SER service hours. So that’s a lot, a lot of work. So it’s great to see it come to fruition and Yes, Definitely. So, so, um, let’s get you your ceremony. Um, so, uh, so Tyler has requested use of Abbott Hall, um, for his Eagle Scout Court of Honor on August 10th, 2024.

36:05 Um, so we need a motion to approve this request, um, for the use of it of Abbott Hall, uh, that date from 10 to am to 2:00 PM subject to the usual rules and regulations and receipt of a required certificate of insurance in the amount of 1 million, 3 million occurrence aggregate naming the town of Marblehead as an additionally insured and waive the rental fee for Abbott Hall. So moved. Second. Okay. Mr. Murray In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Ms. Nun In favor. Congratulations Tyler. Congratulations. You are, we make sure we get invitations, please. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you all Very much.

36:56 Okay. Andrew Petty, our health directors, um, coming before us to talk about message sign, board installation. Uh, Good evening. Andrew Petty, director of Public Health. Uh, the Marblehead Water and Sewer Department, along with the Marblehead Health Department, uh, received a grant for Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection. Uh, the purpose of the grant is to meet the requirements of mass DEP sewage notification regulations, uh, three 14 CMR 16, while promoting public awareness for sewage pollution. Uh, Marblehead water and sewer committee and model head board of health are required by three 14 CMR 16.095 to post temporary and permanent notification signs at public access points to water, water affected by the sanitary sewage overflow SSOs.

37:42 Um, these signs will support the town’s efforts to meet these requirements. Um, so we have 10 locations around town, um, that these signs will be posted. They’re actually larger message boards. Uh, there’ll be additional information, information in there, uh, pamphlets regarding three sump and other programs, um, about water quality in the community. Perfect. Right, right. Oh, we do have an example of The sign. Yeah. The very back. Is that the, yeah. In the packet you have, uh, the 10 different locations that will be posting the signs. Um, and at the very end it does have a picture, a, a spec of how this, what the signs look like.

38:25 See How often do you guys monitor? Is that So sso, sanitary sew overflows? Yeah. We monitor those all the time. So obviously a sanitary sewer overflow would occur. Um, if we have a large rain event, um, the sanitary sewer system is indulged by, or, you know, affected by storm, storm water, effectively rainwater. So essentially what happens when SCSD is overloaded Gotcha. We can’t send waste over there. And so they allow us to dump. And so it’s, it’s very rare. Um, the other occurrence would be if you have a manufac, like a malfunction. Um, but it is very rare. But yes, there is, you know, locations in town that it could occur.

39:10 And obviously the reason why you want to put out the signs is obviously, uh, marble Wood Water and Sewer Committee, uh, has a very good notification system. Uh, we use code Red, we use emails, we do text messaging. Um, but we wanna make sure that not everybody subscribes to these systems. I think we wanna make sure that people visiting from out of town is also aware of this. Yeah. Layering the communication. Yeah. Yeah. Mad chair, we have Amy UE with a hand up. Oh, great. Amy, go ahead Amy. Hi. Sorry. I am remote from my office. Um, still doing some end year, the end work, end of the year work. But, um, I just wanted to talk about sanitary sewer overflow. So generally you only have a sanitary sewer overflow.

39:56 If we have a malfunction in one of our 28 pump stations, if we have a blockage, which generally does not make it to any of the beaches, um, and is cleaned up, uh, by the crew inside, uh, you know, with our back trucks and different means, um, Marblehead usually sends 2 million gallons of sewage over for treatment. But during rain we can send nine to 10 million gallons over. And that is due to infiltration and inflow. And a large piece of that is sump pumps that are illegally connected to the sanitary sewer system. So, you know, everyone should be aware that happens. Um, these pump stations are monitored, uh, 24 7. We have, um, outdoor alarm. So if you ever hear an alarm, please call the number, um,

40:44 the water or the sewer number, we’re on call 24 hours a day and we go out and answer that. Um, and also, uh, we notify, um, on re sump if there is a sanitary sewer overflow, a large sanitar sanitary sewer overflow, you can go to that website and you can go to the state website to see where they all are. And if we do have one, we have to report it to various, uh, different, uh, departments and, uh, regulatory agencies. And then we have a report. We go through what the problem was and trying to figure it out, uh, how to fix that. So again, our biggest problem is infiltration. And we are looking at spending over a million dollars every

41:30 year for the next eight years to try to line sewers and bring that number down. Uh, we’re also working on investigations at every property when we’re doing, uh, construction, or if you call us and ask us to come out to do anything, we’d go out and make sure that, um, you don’t have a sum pump connected to the sanitary sewer. So again, if people would go to Resum, they could see what they could do to help. Uh, we do think that some pumps are probably about 40% of our increase during rain. And you can just see that by, um, looking at our graphs in the way that the flow changes over time. So, uh, we are doing everything we can. We have an old system, um, and these signs will actually just help people know that things happen and there are places to go to see, uh,

42:17 any information on that. Thanks. Thank you. Amy, did you have any, anything else you wanna add? Yeah. Okay. I’ll open it up to questions, comments from the board.

42:31 Um, I just had a, so the, the, the size of this, it’s 35 inches. Like Yeah. So it’s a two posts, uh, sign. Okay. And is that, are there gonna be other messages in it besides just like, ‘cause typically it’s just a page to post that it’s closed or the quality. Correct. And so you’ll have additional, like a, a pamphlet area where we can have general information about the RESUM program, about how this all works. So it’s a, it’s also a, you know, educational piece. Okay. And obviously you feel that that is an amount of space that you need Yeah. To get at the information. Okay. Correct. And this is different than the mon or water monitoring for beaches, like when you coast beaches? That’s correct. Is there any way to utilize this for that as well, or is there a different place? So It’s, you know, so obviously we’ll try to associate the, you know, put the signs at in the same general area.

43:18 Um, it’s very possible that I can move my beach signs to this area. Yep. So everybody’s going to the same location. Mm-Hmm. Um, so you’re going to look for whatever quality information testing for the year, you’d also be going to the same sign. Correct. You know, ‘cause my sign for the beach program is much pretty small, tiny. And so we can Great. Yep. Um, what is the, um, color and material of the sign? Um, so the color of the materials, so they’re gray, they’re, uh, polypro, um, which is a gray. Gray. Okay. Gray. Yeah. And this is this, this part’s clear probably. Yep. Clear Front. And I think all the back is like a gray poly material as well. Okay. Yep. Alright. I want to emphasize the efforts of Yeah.

44:05 Of them, of the grants to do this type of work. So, mm-Hmm. Um, mm-Hmm. That’s a key factor in being compliant, is getting the grants. Yeah. And give us the resources to be compliant. Correct. Great. Thank you. Yep. Um, okay. Sorry. Okay. Can we have a motion then to approve the installation of message board signs at the following 10 public access points to be used as permanent sign housing to post water quality warnings as required by three 14. Uh, CMR 1609 Devereaux Beach 118 Ocean Ave 1 0 2 Ocean Ave. Crocker Park Gas House Beach, grace Oliver’s Beach, stra Skis Park, Riverhead Fort Beach

44:52 Lane, crown and Shield Island. Marblehead Lighthouse. Chandler Hubby Park and Village Street Dock. So moved. Second. Ms. Singer?

45:05 In favor? Mr. Fox? In Favor? Mr. Grader? In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor? Ms. Nunan In favor. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Andy. Okay. Thank you. Thank you Amy and Andrew. Um, that brings us to, um, that the, uh, request for outdoor dining. Um, and we’ve received 1, 2, 3, 4, um, temporary outdoor dining applications and, uh, we can go through each one of them at a time. Um, first up, uh, in our packet is for the bearman at 2 59 Washington Street. And if, if, um, everybody’s had a chance to look at the, um,

45:52 the drawing and the sidewalk, um, okay. And I just as a, just a informational do has, have these also been vetted through police and fire before they’ve come to us? Or is this going to them? It’ll Be part of the process. Okay. So your vote’s gonna be contingent on Contingent on The, the fire chief, police chief and myself signing off. Okay. So, we’ll ‘cause it’s a site by site issue. Yeah. And every site’s a little bit different, so we’ll wanna work with them and make sure meets everybody’s requirements and then sign off. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But You’ll be reviewing these plan, these plans that we’re looking at? Yes. Yeah. So through the chair.

46:37 So this could be the max amount. Like, so it, you could say you can’t, like, I’m just picking on the landing. They have seven, you might say. No, you can only have five. Yeah. I think mo most likely it would be just looking at how everything is arranged, for example, to ensure that the sidewalks have the adequate space for accessibility, those type of things. And, and these have been set up before. Mm-Hmm. So, so I think that the numbers being presented are, as far as tables and chairs are consistent with what’s been done, we’ll just make sure that for safety reasons and other other reasons that it keeps compliant. So your vote is just the authorization to allow it

47:22 and then we will do the reviews to make sure they’re not impeding sidewalks or access and, and those type of things. Yeah. ‘cause because the fishermen, I did get a call today from one of the Yeah. The commercial fishermen. Mm-Hmm. And, and I actually went down to the landing and, and I just, this layout just looks a little too big. It Caught me off for that space. I says that too. And, and there’s a bench not on here, so I’m assuming that bench could be moved, but there’s a bench they show on here and I just worry that this might also impede that public bench, which actually faces out into the harbor. So I told him, in a worst case scenario, whatever gets approved tonight, if there is a disagreement, it could come back up in front of us. But I would prefer that somebody look at this because I just thought this was too big for that space.

48:08 Right. And, and I want to do what we can for our commercial fishermen because I think they get precedents down there given that thought. Yeah. So for the last two years, we’ve, we’ve had arrangements, we’ve made adjustments. Uh, the intent is to pretty much be consistent to what we’ve done in the last two years. So it’s, it’s sort of, and this reflects that pretty much. Yeah. I mean, so that’s what they drew as Robert, their proposed plan. Okay. I got it. Right. So your vote is just authorized. They have the outdoor dining. We will, You will Okay. Work with ‘em. And, and I have a letter in, in that particular case where we define the hours that we allowed the operation so as to reconcile between the, the commercial fishermen’s activity times and, and the restaurant’s activity times.

48:55 I mean, I, I try to give deference to any of our, you know, you know, local businesses, but because they’re an, a different entity because they already have tables on town property Yep. Unlike other ones that don’t have that access. That’s why I wouldn’t mind restricting them Yep. To side with a commercial fishermen because they already have additional ones that the rest of the restaurant populations do not have access To. You know, I’ve had conversations with different restaurants and like I said, each of these are, uh, a site by site and it’s the restaurants that happen to be in a location that can accommodate. And there are restaurants that just are in a location that can’t accommodate. And, you know, we, uh, as I, as I said, we, we try to help those that we can and sometimes we can’t help if, if, you know, the conditions

49:43 around it just don’t allow for it. So Thank you. Um, and yeah, I guess it’s, we can talk about them kind. I was gonna take ‘em one at at time, but it makes sense to talk about them all together. Especially where the three of them are Elia rna, um, five Corners and the barrel men are all right next to each other. I don’t remember if the, um, Greek place had outdoor dining last year. Did it? It did. Okay. Are they proposing the same? ‘cause I see there’s a structure in here. Is this something New? Yeah, yeah. We’re gonna, that’s new. I’m not sure about new, we’re gonna take a look at that. Okay. And the location now that looks like a, as I as as I understand it, that will be

50:29 because you have the jersey barriers that already separate Right. The traffic from the seating area. So we’ll all take a look at that, that structure. It, it’ll be inside it, it will be inside the barriers being in place. So, um, what that accommodates is, uh, level service. So it, it really addresses accessibility. Mm-Hmm. Okay. So there’s not a curb that you have to deal with. ‘cause they have to, if they’re gonna be off the curb, they have to be compliant. Yeah. Um, and so that actually helps. Now the question I’ll have working with the chiefs, a structure like that, would that impede fire operations in an emergency? Those are things we would look at. What about materials We would Yeah. We would

51:17 Review, but know as far as design would, would that go in front of a board Yeah. In that one That their colors, et cetera, are consistent with the surrounding area. Yeah. It, I think that’s the one with the building, right? Yes. It could Be design. I’m all for aesthetic improvements to Jersey barriers. Exactly. So here’s, here’s answer. We, we can be taken too far who Approve the design versus the structure. So the fact that, uh, you know, I’m listed on this right. As, as a signup. So my expectation is any of those issues that are raised before I sign off, have it run through the appropriate board or department who sort of has responsibility for reviewing such things. And that that’s my, that’s, that’s my requirement is

52:04 that if there are any other, again, departments or if there’s a board, there’s a design review, whatever it may be Mm-Hmm. For me to sign off, we will dictate that. Yes. You’re gonna have to go through that process to Be approval. Yeah. Look, I’m, I’m comfortable making you the, the des the designee going forward for the select board and, and to, and to handle that process. Yeah. You know, they, the other option might be to come, you know, a vote for approval to come back for a, you know, final review. But I, I don’t think that’s necessary. Go ahead and do that. So our, our, our goal actually is, uh, the, the summer seasons here people out is to, is to get ‘em up and running. Exactly. Now that we’ve, again, for this year, because the state sort of made a change, um,

52:50 and how they were handling this and threw it on us. Yeah. We had to one, establish the policies exactly first, which we did at the last meeting, and then now for the approval. So going forward, we will, with the policies already in place, we will be able to do this process earlier in the year to allow folks to take advantage of the Yeah. But your, your ultimate, you know, negotiation of this and, and approval seeking from the rest of the board is subject to our policies. Yep. Mm-Hmm. Ultimately that’s gonna gonna be the guard rails. Yeah. I just, um, because these restaurants are all right next to each other on a busy intersection, like a dangerous intersection of town.

53:36 And there is, people have, there’s other businesses there too, and there’s a lot of parking spaces that, um, you know, this, that, that the requests are gonna be demanded like that, that ends up in taking away some of the parking. Um, if we are permanently will erect these barriers for three months, or say three, three months, three and a half, we go to mid October or the end End of violence. So four Okay. For four months. Um, I’m wondering, I don’t, you know, if there’s a way to keep it all on one side. I, I know that the five corners request really it has, you know, th six tables outside and it goes around the corner. Um, That’s on the sidewalk though. So

54:22 They’re not going, but do they not take up, so these do, these ones don’t take up space parking spaces? I don’t think they can go as far as they have in the past for the Okay. For of doing this. Okay. So, but they still need a jersey barrier because you have to have Jersey barrier. The there, those tables are set up on the sidewalk, but we have a jersey barrier for a DA So they sidewalk barriers Were on the street. Right. So they basically, the, the, the serving area was using the parking spaces. So the jersey barriers were on the line of the parking space and the roadway.

55:02 So that’s the expanded space. I need sort of have to do that because you still have to maintain accessibility on the sidewalk Right. For people to flow and feed it. So We’re taking up the spaces on Washington Street, which I mean it will help the bus, the restaurants there that, um, benefits us all. How many spaces on School Street does this plan take up? Because there’s a little theater there, there’s a hair salon that says open late hours. There’s Tony’s, there’s, you know. Yep. I know that some of this is, um, you know, evening activities when other stores are closed, but there are other impact businesses that are impacted Yeah. When we do this. And I just wanna be sensitive to that. Yeah. Um, do you know chief, like how many,

55:50 because I feel like you’ve three on school.

55:55 I don’t know how to, how to support feeling about that. Can I ask a question? Yes. Are there alternatives to the Jersey Bears on something like that where it’s on the sidewalk, This Is just five corners. Yep. Two this year. Those are three parking spaces on the corner. Then they, But then they’re doing it this year. Right? Five Corners. Yeah. Yeah. Because they set up those tables at night and take ‘em down. Right. But the Jersey berries have to stay ‘cause we’re not moving those. You can’t Move around Like Right.

56:25 Okay. Um, one thing I do want us to ask of these owners and operators, uh, this year is to, uh, is to request and ask of their staff that they park farther away, not take up spaces close to other businesses Right. Downtown. So if they can park, you know, up so they’re not taking, we’re not using, you know, taking away more from the surrounding area.

57:01 Yeah. And people just need to also remember that there’s parking behind the Lulu Theater that’s town owned. People do need to remember that. People do forget about that. The good thing is the banks don’t seem to be towing anymore. So they’re allowing people to park at their lots, which is a good thing, but we just dunno long that’s gonna go on for either. Okay. Okay. But I agree you lose spots. But in the same regard, we’re a destination community and this is Yeah. This is their Christmas season to make some money. Mm-Hmm.

57:32 Okay. I did have the same concerns of when I saw the landing layout, to be honest, the landing on I’m most concerned about out of all of ‘em, that’s one I’m the most concerned About. It seemed like a lot of tables and they already have the outdoor deck. Yeah. They’ve got waterfront. Yeah. And I just know it’s a pressure. It’s, it’s tough. Yeah. And I, and I think this policy this year, we’ll see how this works. And then next year, I mean, right now we’re charging a dollar 50, maybe we charge more money per square foot. Um, you know, but this is a test we, and I know we mimicked it off of Salem because they had it, so why not steal their version and reinvent the wheel. Right. Um, so let’s try it, see how it goes and tweak it as a year goes on. Okay. Yeah. So the Landing keeps their stuff out there during the day? Or do they take it in?

58:18 They, so they have, what we did is restricted the hours of operation that they could have the tables out. So during the, during the, the work days, during the week, everything had to be moved. And they had a, some, Some storage. Yeah. Yeah. Container. Some container. And so what would happen is, I think it was five o’clock and I have the letter that then they would be able to put things out and, and then for the weekday, they had to push things back. So It should help the fisherman as well. Yeah. We, this last two years, my, my first week on the job, So Even though this says I was, I was down there navigating and reconciling, trying to, trying to make it work for Conflict resolution. Even

59:04 Though this says 10:00 AM to midnight, it’s not. So that’s just hours of operation of their business. That’s for their business. Right. Not for this product. Right. And then again, I have a letter. You probably haven’t not what? Yeah, I, I can share it to you. There was a letter that we sent them. Yeah. So it, it Okay. Further restricts Okay. The hours and such. So, Okay. And then again, as Moses, um, mentioned earlier, you know, with regard to the landing and the number of tables, uh, I mean, I’m defer to Yeah. Your judgment on the, on the site, managing that when you set it up and approve it finally. Yeah. And, Yep. No safety and accessibility of others are the key drivers of what will be allowed. Yeah.

59:50 Yeah. And just being good neighbors. Exactly. Um, with, you know, asking staff to park, um, you know, a, a farther distance than right outside. Okay. Um, alright. So we need a motion to approve the application for temporary outdoor dining from the barman at 2 59 Washington Street. Subject to the receipt of the required forms, fees, insurance, and approval from polite police, fire town and town administrator. So Moved. Second. Mr. Box. In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor? Okay. Motion carries. Next we need, uh, a motion to approve the application for Temporary Outdoor Dining for Five Corners Kitchen two School Street, subject to the receipt of the required forms, fees, insurance,

1:00:36 and approval from police, fire town and town administrator. So Moved. Second, Mr. Grader. In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Uh, we now need a motion to approve the temp, the application of temporary order Outdoor Dining for five. Oh, I just did that one, right. Um, this would be IA Verna. Mm-Hmm. We’ve got the same address for both.

1:01:06 So this one, this application’s for Ilia Verna, and they are at 2 61 Washington Street. Subject to the receipt of the required forms, fees, insurance, and approval from police, fire building commissioner and town administrator. So moved. Second. Mr. Murray. In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader. In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Lastly, um, we need a motion to approve the application for temporary Outdoor Dining for the Landing restaurant at 81 Front Street, subject to receipt of the required forms, fees, insurance, and approval from police, fire, and the coordination of days and hours of operation on the public way with our town administrator.

1:01:47 So, motion. Do you have a second? Second, Ms. Singer In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor? Mr. Grader abstain. Mr. Murray In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor? Okay. Uh, we now proceed to, um, a request from Lisa Hooper to, um, surplus a van. So we need a motion to declare the following item as surplus and no longer needed for municipal purpose, so that it, it may be disposed of in accordance with the town’s policy on surplus equipment. A 2016 Ford Cut van, bus VIN number one FSEE three F-L-X-G-D-C 0 5 1 2 4. So

1:02:32 Moved. Have a second. Second, Ms. Singer In favor? Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor? Okay. Um, we have in our packets the standard request for a one day liquor license from the Cleon Yacht Club. Can I have a motion to approve the request from Brendan P*****k, director of Cleon Yacht Club 42 Foster Street for a one day liquor license, July 3rd, 2024 at 42 Foster Street, 600, sorry, 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM subject to the following conditions, delivery of and receipt by the licensing authority of the required fee of $50, delivery of and receipt by the licensing authority of proof of the alcohol we purchased from an authorized source and proof that the applicant can receive proper delivery,

1:03:18 provide proper storage and disposal of all alcoholic beverages purchased. All in accordance with the requirements of general laws. Chapter 1 38. Alcohol is to be purchased from cap’s importing and distri and distributing. So moved. Second, Mr. Fox. In favor, Mr. Greater In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Nunan in favor. And now, um, we have a request to use the spirit of 76 logo from Mark Tito, 10 Tendo of Marblehead Youth Hockey Association. They would like to use the spirit of 76, um, um, on their jerseys for their, um, hockey program and to be sold at the sport shop.

1:04:06 Mr. TTOs here if you wanna Oh, oh, hi.

1:04:11 Sure. Yeah, yeah. Come on up.

1:04:16 Hi everybody. Hi. Hello. My name’s Mark tdo. I’m the treasurer for Marbled Youth Hockey. Um, one of our parents did some research, found this Spear 76 logo. Yeah. From 1970s, we’re not exactly sure. And, uh, we came up with the idea of coming up with a third alternate jersey that we could use, um, for this season and beyond. And this season is the 60th anniversary of the St. Lambert Marblehead Hockey Exchange. So we’re planning some big things Outstanding. And, uh, this is just the, uh, the beginning of that. And Jason gdo and his fantastic staff are helping us design it and, um, get it out to all our players. I Think it’s awesome idea. Great. Yeah. Looks great. Thank you. Really? Cool.

1:05:01 Will that be sold to the public as well? I mean,

1:05:07 Definitely gonna buy 100%. That’s great. Dangerous is Yes. Hometown spirit. Yeah. I think Patrick Huga will buy a couple. Uh, you know, I was treasurer of a youth hockey league, so I know the I know the pain of the job. Oh yeah. It’s fun. Yeah. Well, and I think we’ll be, yeah. So, um, we just need somebody to make this the motion to, to approve the request, uh, to use the spirit of seven six logo for the New Jersey for Marblehead Youth Hockey. So moved. Second, Mr. Grader. In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Ms. Nunan In Favor.

1:05:53 Thanks. Thank you. Very cool. Best of luck. Like seeing that in the packet. It’s cool. Yeah.

1:06:01 Okay. Now we are on to our annual reappointments and, um, sometimes this can be a little bit clunky when we do it, but we will do it and we’ll get through it. Um, so

1:06:19 there are, um, appointments for staff, paid positions in town that we appoint annually. And, um, then there are also our volunteers on various different committees also that we review if they are, um, up for reappointment. Okay. So, um, I’ll ask from, we’ll go through them and if anybody would like to hold, we will do so. And then return to those and vote the ones that are no, there are no holds on first. Um, okay. So we need a motion to accept the following appointments all for terms which are expiring in June, 2025, unless noted and accept those placed on holds in accordance

1:07:05 with the town bylaws. Um, town Administrator Thatcher Keer Gold, um, Americans Disabilities Act Coordinator, Thatcher Keer. Um, building Commissioners and Inspectors. Building Commissioner Steven Cummings, local Inspector Ben Leitz, local Inspector. Roger Ines, plumbing Inspector Brad Smith, wiring Inspector Eric Chisholm. Um, canine control clerk. Robin. Me. Robin Me showed for Our Town is our town Clerk. Assistant dog officers for the parks. Peter James, Brad Delal, Greg Snow, Sam Andrews, John Vicki, John DeCicco, town Counsel at 2000 per year. Jeff Shridman, assistant Talent Counsel. Brody Hardon.

1:07:50 Perkinson Kein. Leonard Keston, Patrick Costello, Mead Tellerman, and Costa Francis Mayo and Deutsch Williams. Um, counsel on aging Director Lisa Hooper, emergency Management Coordinator. Chief Jason Gillen. Charles Saru, the Assistant

1:08:14 Finance Director. Alicia Benjamin Nunley. Wait, sorry, Alicia Nunley. Benjamin, I’ve said, done that before. Forrest Warden Hold. Um, Okay. Harbor Master and Assistants. Mark Sousa. Craig Smith, deputy Harbor Master and Assistant Harbor Masters, which are seasonal. Rick Don Andrew Willette, math Mather Thompson, Steve Leland, jar Russo. Elmer Herlihy, Mike Kbi, Andrew Nro. Chris Ben Dixon and alternates. Felix Amsler. Jeff Flynn. Jack Love Day keeper of the Lockup Chief Dennis King. Oh, Licensing authority. Do We, hold on all those for me. Okay.

1:09:00 Um, measure of leather. Brian Ruco and Amy A a Julia. A Listen that aia,

1:09:12 Our town designee for mass water. Uh, resource authority is Carlton Siegel with our alternate Amy McHugh of, um, the Public Works Department, uh, parking clerk and hearing clerk. Jeff Shridman, chief Procurement Officer that Keer Public Works Director Amy McHugh, records Access Officer Kylie, uh, Kyle Wiley, uh, for the town and for the police department. Chief Dennis King. Um, your right to know coordinator is Jason Gilland, the fire department, special Auxiliary police Patrolman. James Donovan, superintendent of Public Buildings. Thatcher Keyser, chief King, chief Gillen, Andrew Petty, public Health Director, and A-M-Q-D-P-W Director, tax Collector and Treasurer Cammie. I iar, town Engineer Charles Quigley,

1:10:02 Workers’ Comp agent, um, Massachusetts. Inter-Local Insurance Agency Association. Town Accountant is Chris Hoak, affordable Housing Trust Fund. Um, This Is the Select board

1:10:17 and Kurt James Dirk Instabrand. Um, our Armed Forces Liaison

1:10:25 is Harry Christensen, board of Abbott Library, second Century Fund. Peter Jalbert and Judith Eisner for Cable Television Advisory Committee. Robert Peck, caretaker of Fort Beach. Dave Rogers, chaplain of Marblehead Police Department is Reverend James Bixby Conservation Commission. Um, uh, is, these are a term of three years. They’re staggered. And, uh, for the appointment is David Van Hoven and Carol McCauley. Um, a constables for the purpose of serving civil process. These are one year terms. Doug Perry, mark, I izi, Christopher Kamau, Jared Walsh, Julio Carillo, and Cindy Diaz.

1:11:12 Constables for shellfish. There are 11 maximum. Um, and Jack Ridge is up for a three year term as Chief Constable for, um, one year terms. Uh, Raymond Bates, Dave Don Donahue, Jeff Flynn, Harry Christensen Junior, Rick Kushner, Craig Smith, Doug Aman, FWF Webb Russell and Eric Hawley.

1:11:37 Counsel on Aging for a term of three years. Tom Gore’s, emergency Medical Services Council. Um, Jason Gilland of Marblehead Fire Department. Um, the Fair Housing Committee, uh, up for reappointment are, um, two members. We have, um, I think a couple vacancies on that that reminds me, um, of term three years that which are staggered. Uh, Deb Larkin for at Large member and Bob Noose as an alternate member, uh, finance committee. These are three year staggered terms. And, um, seeking Reappointment are Pat Franklin, Molly Teets, Mike O’Neal, Linda Gifford as the Clerk Fireworks Committee. Andrew Alex Falk, our Fort Sewell Oversight Committee. These are one year terms. Larry Sands is our OMIA

1:12:24 representative, our town planner. Peter James Rec and Park. Seamus Dailey from Glover’s Regiment. Judy Anderson at Large Ed Lang from the Disabilities Commission. And Christine Nuccio is an at large member. Um, harbors and Waters Board. Hold on. All. Okay.

1:12:41 Um, hazard Mitigation Plan, implementation and Monitoring Team. Uh, Jason Gillen, our fire chief as the Emergency Management Director, Charles Quigley, town Engineer. Amy Chu, superintendent Water and Sewer Commission, our Town Planner.

1:12:55 And William Connolly from the Historical Commission.

1:13:02 Okay, um, Don Dober for historian for a one year term, um, historical commission, uh, up for reappointment for a three year staggered term is David Crwa Marblehead Cultural Council, which is a term three year staggered. Um, Jim Murphy, Aaron Leber, Lisa Seltzer, Marblehead Disabilities Commission up for, uh, seeking Reappointment of Samantha Marino. This is a three year staggered term to end in 2027. Marblehead Forever Committee. These are one year terms. Karen Lang, Meredith Den, Linda Doller, Carrie O’Shaughnessy, and Kyle Wiley. Um, for one year term is our municipal liaison to the Mass ETH Massachusetts Ethics Commission. Jeff Shridman, one year term for Mass Port Authority Advisory Committee.

1:13:48 Charles Gesner, um, the Metropolitan Area Planning Council, um, to, uh, we have a Steve Leverone for a term to end in 2027 and a and our town planner as an alternate. Um, OHDC. These are one year terms, uh, members seeking reappointment. Bob Bragg and Gary Arick. Charles Hibbard, Mariana Vida, Paul Pruitt, and alternate Duncan Facie. Old Burial Hill Oversight Committee, one year terms. Judy Gates, Stanley Goodwin, Andrew Gallucci, Pam Peterson as the cemetery rep. Alex Finnegan as the Town Planner.

1:14:31 Um, task force against discrimination one your terms. Helene Hazlett, deacon Joan, John Whipple. Chris Bruel, Reese Dahlberg. Eugenia Gustafer Chief Dennis King is an ex officio. Diane Gora is the co-chair. Nika von King is our student rep. Taxation aid committee term of one year. Pam Foy, Lisa Hooper. Bonnie Granier, Cammy Iron, our treasurer, Ex-Officio. And John Kelly, chairman of the Boys Board of Assessors as an ex officio. Um, we have, uh, uh, one reappointment on the, oh, this was for, we had staggered these when we onboarded, um, the Traffic Safety Advisory Committee. So Rich Meyers, um, is first up and he is seeking, we just appointed him

1:15:16 and he’s seeking a three year term that would expire in 2027. Town Physician quadrant, health strategies, tree warden Jonathan Bert zoning, uh, the zoning board of appeals. These are? Yep. Okay. And,

1:15:45 okay, so, um,

1:15:49 So matter, Jeff, for me from my holds, I, except for the harbors and waters, I have conflicts. Yep. So if you want to take the bulk of them, except for the harbors and waters to make it a, a faster motion, that’s up to you. And then, So the ones that you held, that the one except for the harbors and waters board, all those holds will just vote them and you can abstain. I can, I will, I will rec accuse myself. Yes. Yeah. So, so the first vote would be all the non holds. Right? And Then Right. Second vote would be the conflict holds. Right. Okay. And the third vote or whatever actually you decide to take would be the harbors. Sure. Okay. Okay. So can I have a motion? We also Have our fourth because he has a conflict, so we’re gonna have to, okay. Good. Mm-Hmm. So this is on the non holds. Yeah. Um,

1:16:39 So on the non holds, I have a motion to accept those appointments that were not hold held. So moved. Second. Um, Mr. Murray in favor? Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grad? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Okay. Can I have a motion to accept the following appointments that were held? Town administrator, Forrest Warden licensing authority duly designated agents And keeper her of the lockup And keeper of the lockup. Mm-Hmm. So motion. So moved. Okay. Okay.

1:17:24 Um, Ms. Singer, Do a favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor? Mr. Murray Recused. Ms. Nunan, Um, in favor. Okay. Okay. So then there’s two. We’ll take, um, take those now. Um, uh, so we could, we can open with discussion on the, hold on Harbors and waters. What, what did we do with ZBA? That’s also, hold On. Yeah. That’s also those two boards. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Do you wanna go to the harbors and waters now? Yes. Okay. We can, I just open for discussion on the hold. Okay. Thank you, ma’am. Chair. Um, I, I held that, um, for a couple reasons.

1:18:10 I mean, I think as people know, at at TA meeting, I spoke about the fact that you, you know, we, we’ve have some boards that I think we need some, some turnover on. We need some change on, not, not just because we need change, but, um, we just have a lot of interest. And so what I’m asking for us tonight is, is, is really a two part process with the Harbors and Waters board. Uh, the first is to do nothing right now. So we do it like we did last year. It’s gonna be held and it will be held until two meetings from now. We, we will vote on. And what I’m proposing is at the next regular schedule meeting, um, we take a look at the makeup of the board because what I was looking, when I looked at our surrounding communities, the number

1:18:55 of board members fluctuate anywhere from five to nine. And I saw we were the only community that had alternates. So I think as a separate item to the agenda at our next regular scheduled meeting, this would be a good time for us over between now and then to do our own little research digest to see whether we wanna keep at the five members with three alternates, whether we want to change it to a seven and no alternates or a nine and no alternates. Um, and also take a look at the charge, you know, on the Harbors and Water Board and how it’s, how it’s set up, and to make sure it reflects what we’re doing. Especially since we have the Harbors of Water study and everything going on. Um, and then between now and then, or a week, maybe the, maybe the Friday

1:19:42 before our second schedule meeting, we could then solicit interest for those positions. And I think I also, at that next regular schedule, you know, the next regular schedule meeting we’re talking about the makeup we should get. Hopefully we’ll get a lot of interest. And at that point, maybe, you know, Mr. Geezer can recommend to us whether we follow a similar process, what we did with the, um, you know, with the town charter where we kind of rank them or whether we invite them in to do interviews, you know, the new people who are interested. And then at that second regular scheduled meeting from now, we vote who’s gonna be on this board after we know the makeup, once we know the charge and we see the interest out there. And, you know, as I’ve said in the papers, I’ve said,

1:20:27 Tom meeting, you know, it’s important. I think, you know, I I, I don’t do this lightly. ‘cause again, for the people who have been there, have been there each for about a quarter of a century. So I’m hoping that between now and then, they may take a pause and give a thought whether they want to re-up their, their term on this board. Um, because we need succession planning. I just, I, I worry about everybody leaving in one fell swoop. And I think that could be, that would hurt us. But this is a time for us to look at the board and make that, um, you know, we all love to get back to this town. I mean, I served on this board for six years. I took six years off. I was fortunate to come back, and at the end of my term, I’m not gonna seek reelection. I love doing this job, but it’s, it’s time for somebody new to step into my seat. And it’s a perfect time because we

1:21:13 have two people who have three year terms. We have two people who have two, and it’s gonna be a perfect succession. So I’m doing it, not because I don’t like doing this, but it makes sense for somebody new to come on. So I’m not asking of these individuals anything different than I’ve done myself previously than I’m gonna do. Again, I think it’s perfect to do the succession. I think, you know, again, I appreciate their work, their time and their commitment. That’s what makes this town great. But I also like to see new ideas, new people. And, and that’s what we’ve been lucky with this town is when, when those new people come along, we usually, we, we go move forward and we make some change. So that’s my proposal. That’s the reason why I held the water, um, the harbors and water, because, um, you know, I’ve made a promise to the voters. I know it’s a little bit of an oxymoron, and then I’m an honest politician, but I wanna hold. And, and I think we as a town need to, um, make a change.

1:22:01 And I think this is the time and I think this is appropriate. It’s a fair and, um, I’ll let the other members comment. But that’s, that’s my, um, that’s the reason why I’m pulling, that’s what I’d like to see happen with that board. Okay. So the proposal’s kind of two parts as I’m hearing it. It’s that, do we need an alternate for the sake of alternates? It doesn’t, I, I haven’t thought, I, it doesn’t seem that it’s been something that they’ve been ever called on as an alternate to serve. So perhaps expanding it. Madam Chair, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. If I may, I mean, before you, I, before trying To summarize what he was Yeah. Oh, what he was. Yeah. Two, I’m sorry, manager two, I, I would like to make, I’d like to make a comment. Yeah. Um, just, there’s two parts. So that I think he was saying that we revisit, you know,

1:22:48 the makeup if we wanted to have, you know, instead of alternates, just make onboard members as you know, have seven instead of, is it seven instead of five mm-Hmm. Yeah. And then the second part being that there’s new interest in the board, can we allow some Space for that? Right. Okay. Go ahead. No, listen, I mean, I think that we’re, I think people are going to ask, you know, why Harbors and Water Board in particular, right? There’s lots of other committees here. We kind of just went ahead and accepted the recommendation of the chairs Mm-Hmm. You know, for those individual members. So I think, you know, I’ve always favored the approach that we’d have discussions

1:23:34 with the chairs, you know, prior to the appointment process and kind of get a consensus around, you know, is there the possibility of folks, uh, you know, potentially retiring. Right. Um, you know, my only concern with kind of coercing, uh, you know, the existing boards is that we can get, you know, we can get outcomes that we’re not, you know, that we’re not, uh, anticipating. Um, I think the whole, you know, so I think, I think is there, is there kind of an objective reason for, you know, what is the real reason for, you know, for, for the hold on Harbors and waters? Is it just because people have been there for a quarter of century and there’s new people in the wings that want to join? Uh, or, you know,

1:24:20 or is it a particular thing that, that, that you are concerned about? Or you’ve heard constituents, you know, complain about? Are there specific issues because I’m, I’m looking for an objective reason. Why didn’t we go through every board and basically kind of, you know, go through a review process? There’s, I think in my mind, there’s been turnovers on most of the other boards. There’s a, you know, in the last two to, you know, two to five years, there’s been at least, you know, two or three members that have turned over. For the most part. There’s always seems to be at least one or two mm-Hmm. Yeah. There’s a few people on here that have served like Helene Haslett on, you know, on the task force against discrimination. I mean, she founded it, you know. Sure. She’s been on there Sure. You know, for a long time. Okay. But other members have come on and, you know, come on and up. Four of the five members Mm-Hmm. On this one board have been there for a quarter of a century or more. Right. Right. And I keep having Stitch come up to say,

1:25:07 I’m interested, I wanna change it. We haven’t even looked at the charge. So let’s look at the charge. Let’s look at how we want to be set up. Let’s look at the numbers. Right. And then let’s look, Have, have, have you or anybody had a discussion with the chair on, on kind of, you know, the, the thinking behind it, or have we been able to speak to, you know, to Mark Souza or to the or, or the chair of the board and kind of try to, you know, get a, a resolution to this that they agree to. I’m just saying that for each of the, I think what we do when we appoint and the chairs are nominated, we kind of, you know, given that they’re, especially the, the volunteer appointed positions Right. That aren’t elected, we really delegate a lot to the chairs.

1:25:54 Right. And I think if we override that authority, I think we, I think it, that’s my only, that’s my real concern. Okay. Uh, and so I’d like to see if we do hold this until the next meeting that we go through a process of communication with the, with the chair and, and perhaps the harbor master. Yeah. It, and it sounds like I Have a conversation with Mr. With Mr. Accuser and I asked him to have the conversation them perfect. And I don’t know, I haven’t talked to him. No, that’s fair enough. In the last couple days. And that’s why I’m saying this is two meetings out. We look at it, one, meeting out how we wanna have it constituted. We vote two meetings out. That gives, that’s fine. About a month. That’s fine. No, I just, plenty Of opportunity for those people to reassess, which at the last meeting I was told, they all said, yep. They all were in favor of coming back on. There was no very little discussion from what I’ve been told from one of the attendees.

1:26:39 And so this is, and I’m holding myself to what I spoke said at town meeting and what I’ve said in the paper. No, No. Fair enough. No, I’m just asking. You know, And I think it’s fair. I mean, we’ve, to me, I, I’ve drawn a line and even last year we came close. But in my mind, I think we need to do something and this is where we need to start. ‘cause this, of all the boards, I think this is the most egregious in, in terms of not having turn. And I worry because if all of ‘em just left simultaneously, even the alternates were not in a good position. And that’s my fear is these alternates are not gonna hang on anymore because we have alternates. I appointed Rick Ner when I was first on the board. Mm-Hmm. He’s been there for almost a decade. Right. Well, it sounds, it sounds like there’s also an idea to, to have a kind of a structural solution around the size, which, which I think is actually a good way to handle volunteer boards.

1:27:25 You know what I mean? And I think we did that with the Fair Housing Committee. Right. With great success. So, you know, if, if we think there’s an issue there, my only concern is that we, that we don’t, uh, you know, that we don’t kind of act in a way that we’re kind of overriding the, the, you know, I think the, you know, the prerogatives of the chair and kind of respect that. But having said that, um, you know, if we could continue, uh, the discussions, I think, you know, going board to board, I think you’re right to let, uh, you know, Mr. Keener handled the discussion, but, you know, I think we ought to give, give it another shot. You know what I’m saying? That’s why I said it. Hopefully they’ll reconsider and they will voluntary. Some of them will voluntarily step down. Okay. Okay. Well, I’m sure, yeah, of course. I just, obviously I wasn’t on this board last year,

1:28:10 but I have read the minutes from, from last year this same time, and I, I’m pretty sure that this board did the exact same thing and it resulted in, in nothing except for delaying it. So I’m, I’m, maybe it Did like six months, but we didn’t Yes. That’s why I’m saying it. What, I’m sorry. Go ahead. We delayed, They, we delayed all of the, um, yeah, They delayed everything, every, All the appointments, not just Harvard. So I think that, you know, I would like to be part of hopefully redoing our, our whole commission on this. I think that it’s gone a year. I think that we need to not have this happen next year too, and with, with no action. So as long as that, that is happening, and then we review our policy and do a policy across all boards so that we’re not sitting in the same position, or, ‘cause I’m a little, I’m a little curious on why. Well, well, yeah. This hasn’t happened before tonight, so I, I’ll

1:28:56 Speak to that. So, um, we came very close. I think there was just really one kind of, you know, decision we could have made that was substantive, um, on re around reappointments on finalizing the policy. And, um, and then, you know, in November, kind of my world blew up. And, um, there, and then I was out, I was kind of carrying that. And then, um, coming back later on, the priorities had just the Sure. The, you know, week, it was kind of an ambitious undertaking. And, but I do, you know, um, I would like us to have a another summer retreat, like a summer retreat. And, um, I do wanna, I, I do personally wanna tie the bow on that as soon as possible. Um,

1:29:43 Yeah. And it wasn’t meant of criticism, it was more like, let’s move, move forward and make sure this isn’t happening a year from No, but just procedurally that’s kind of what happened. Yeah, makes sense. And, um, and why we just have to tie a bow on that and, um, have that, and I can bring it back. I was intention was to bring it back this summer. Sure. And, and part Madam Chair, I’m sorry, Go ahead, Alexa. Yeah, just, uh, I just wanted to reiterate what Erin said that, just a little point of clarification, that last year there was a process to hold all the boards of committees. And that was really to initiate, uh, kind of a, a change in regards to taking a look at and writing down what is our current policy, what are the things that we do, how do we do it?

1:30:29 What are some changes that we may or may not want to make? And that was the work that was done throughout last summer. And that was, you know, the board worked collaboratively throughout the summer months and, you know, going into the early fall to pull that together. And that was not specific to any one board. It was really working on what is our current policy and what do we write down, what are some things we wanna address? And some of the things that were added were what is our vision of each of these boards and how do we want to address this? And I think one of the things that I heard, um, Mr. Murray say was, now that we’re in this place where we have the Harbor implementation, we’re looking at all of these things. What is the charge of this board? What is the mission? What is the things that the select board would like

1:31:16 to direct or contribute in regards to taking a look at these boards individually and holistically? But last year, the miss the mission really was to take our policies and procedures and make it holistic, because that was one of the concerns that, uh, came on two or three years ago, was really not having that in a cohesive, documented manner that someone who was onboarding like yourself, Dan, would be able to access, read that and participate in the process holistically. So this is a little bit of a different discussion in, in respect to one individual board. So thank you. I just wanna clarify That. Thank you. I, I, I, I, I definitely understand it has to do with this board, but I, I guess that, I think the two go together as well Moving forward as, as, yeah. And I, we can look at that as over an overall policy. Right.

1:32:02 And I think we can go back to look at that overall policy. But the other, the other, some of these boards are, you know, statutorily driven. So we’re gonna have to Sure. Decide some of them, we just have to do it by state. But, uh, some of them right there are, there are, uh, we can do whatever we want. Yep. And, and my conversations with Mr. Thatcher in looking at the bylaws, and, and this is one that is purely, you know, again, a, a select board decision on this one. So I don’t disagree, because I think we need to go back to that. And I think you should look at that. And as Ms. Nunan said, um, you know, we can bring that back in our retreat and see how we wanna focus. But this could be one of the tests, you know, this could be the, how we’re going forward with it. I’ve had problems, like, not problem, but I, so the Harbor implement, we had, you know, um, there was some, uh, some, you know, information

1:32:48 that kind of struck some of the neighbors in the area by surprise about, um, project and the design for the CZM stuff that we were doing on. And then it kind of, um, raised the, you know, like issue about we have the Harbor Implementation Plan committee. And, and I kind of was, you know, is that, are, do we need to have both? Is one, can one be, can the charge of the Harbors and Waters board be to implement that? And I feel in talking to a number of people that, and I understand that, that that’s really isn’t ideal because you have a lot of group different stakeholders on that. There’s just a lot of activity going on down there right now with the CM stuff, with the implementation in our updated Harbor plan. And I did look at the, at the Harbors

1:33:35 and Waters board, the mission and, and of the, of the board. And, um, you know, I think we maybe wanna, you know, there wasn’t really a meant, I I hear a lot from the board about the Enterprise fund and how that they, that they’re running that and it’s super, it is really important. It is a self-funded, you know, pay pays, there are waring fees and all of that. Um, as an enterprise fund, uh, serve a tremendous, you know, value. It’s a self sustaining, um, operation for their boats, the, the employees and on everything. Um, but that even isn’t on, you know, what the Harbor and Waters Board does on like our website. So that’s kind of, to me, kind of like it is, it is kind of time to look at it. We’ve got new interest in it. Um, yeah. But I think, I think for sure that just kind of just,

1:34:23 you know, holding on reappointing, the whole board allows for the time to, to speak with the chair, to speak with the Harbor master and to maybe, and to, to go out and solicit other interests and kind of take a look at this. Right. Right. Exactly. Well, well, I think, look, Jim and I probably provided most of the pushback on kind of, it’s not that we’re, that we’re opposed to setting a policy that’s not the issue. The devil’s in the details, and there are so many different, you know, mandates and statutory requirements between all these boards. It’s, it’s a little bit of a, you know, my, I think one of the most objective ways to determine whether a board needs review is if there’s a, a backlog of interest in a particular board.

1:35:10 ‘cause my biggest worry is that people say, you know what? I, I don’t, I don’t wanna volunteer. Right. You know, we have, we have hard enough time, you know, getting people interested. And it just so happens that we do have, obviously some boards with a lot of tenure on ‘em, and it’s, you know, you’d like to think that there would be some common sense knowing that there’s a list of people that people would say, okay, it’s my turn to, you know, to kind of just, you know, just like you were saying, it’s my turn to kind of step down. If you can get that voluntary, proactive teamwork kind of attitude that’s ideal. And I, and so I, I, that’s why I think kind of having the discussion with the, you know, with the, uh, the chairs and perhaps having a broader policy that basically says, look, if there’s a backlog

1:35:56 of interest, that we ought to find a way to kind of move forward, being forward. I just, you know, I, again, I mean, I think, I think, you know, because we’re all volunteers, people don’t have to put their hand up. Right. And if we get, and, and, and we wanna be sensitive to that, that’s all. So my motion is for us to take no action. The existing board stays as it is, we reassess, you know, Ms. Wiley can send us out the materials. Okay. And then we can reassess at the next meeting. Mr. Keer can have the conversation, and then we can take the vote to meetings from now it goes back to Mr. Fox’s that, you know, now we’re gonna make a decision. This is, this is gonna be a, it could be all the same people reappointed, who knows? Okay. Least is to start. And then we’ll, and then the retreat, we’ll do the bigger picture.

1:36:45 Is there a second? I’ll second. I’ll Second. Okay. Vote on the hold. Ms. Murray In favor? Ms. Singer? In favor? Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Greater in favor, Ms. Moony In favor.

1:37:08 Okay. Um, and then we brings us to the zoning board of appeals. These are five year staggered terms. Um, do we wanna vote these individually? Is that the idea? I guess I have a question as maybe following along with the question of, uh, for alternates here as well. Okay. So, and I’m assuming this is a statutory on the zoning that we can only have? Yeah. So it’s a board that for each hearing Mm-Hmm. You have to have the minimum number of people to have heard it throughout the entirety of it, so, Mm-Hmm. So alternates are there to fill an absence or you need five People At each? Yeah. Okay. Whatever the,

1:37:54 And we’ve got four. Okay. Yeah. I’m Not quite sure what the, the actual voting number is. There’s four Other members that are, There’s four others. Yeah, there’s five. There’s Five. Four members and four alternates. Say it one more time. There’s five full-time members and four four Alternates. Okay. So there’s four that are staying on a fifth that is being up for three year or five year term. A full-time member, A full-time. There’s Four alternates up for one year. Yes. Okay. So the, the alternates are always one year. The members are five year terms.

1:38:25 Okay. Um, Do you wanna go through each one? Does anybody have any? Sure. Um, okay. Well, we will to roll call everyone. Um, well motion to appoint, um, bill Moriarty for the five year staggered term to end in 2029

1:38:50 Now. Okay. Madam Chair. Uh, so what are, what is, what are we doing here? Are we taking, we’re It’s a request to, we wanted to both them individually. Both them individually, yeah. As instead of a collective. Okay. So effectively we’re gonna make a decision whether to app to continue someone’s term or not. It Would appear that way. Okay. Um, can I understand why we’re voting, you know? Yeah. I think that’s Your question. Yeah. I mean, you know, what, what’s the criteria for, for potentially singling out any That’s fair Enough. Any, any personal individual without, I guess I’ve heard of some lack of participation on the board. Um, okay. Attendance. Um, Okay. Um,

1:39:36 I’m, I’m open to if What, what, what does, what does the chair say about this? What, what does, what, what does Bill say? I have, have we talked to Bill? No, I, I’m not Okay. So we’re just, we’re just kind of randomly making a decision. I’ve just Okay. Based on whatever. Based on, yeah. I mean, we could do this for every board, right? I mean, we could. Fair enough. And look, I’m not, I’m not, I get, I hear you on, on. For, for me it’s more a, a matter, it’s more matter. I guess My question here as well is, do we need this many alternates along the same line? That’s, of that four is more. Maybe I’m misstating it. Do we need, I Thought we were going to be, I thought we were discussing. Well, I’ll tell you my answer is as well. My answer is I’ve, you know, been, been engaged, you know? Mm-Hmm. We all have the town for a long time. And the answer is, I don’t know. You know, so maybe we need to, you know,

1:40:23 get a little bit of, a little bit of perspective. I would like to, I would like to propose that we put a hold on this and study that as well, similar to the harbors. Um, that’s fair. That we are doing. And do it in the same, same way. Since I don’t understand the number of alters we need, and if we’re gonna look at it with the harbors, I would like to do that. So I would like to make a motion to do a similar process that we’re doing with harbors. I will second that. Alright. Okay. Roll call. Thank you. It was a motion. Second. I’m sorry. I appreciate that clarification. I don’t think I was asking Ms. Singer. In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Nunan in favor.

1:41:08 Um, there is, is this a vote depreciation? Uh, yes. Yes. So there’s still on the same agenda. There’s the next page to vote to for the appreciation of those who are not continuing service. Yes. Yes. So let’s, um, Uh, so we definitely, I’m sure I wanna acknowledge all of the, um, individuals who did not seek reappointment and are moving on. Um, these include Counsel on Aging, Robert Foga and Suzanne Gruel, which actually have term limits. So they have hit their term limits historical commission here at Christensen.

1:41:50 And cultural counsel, Howard Rosenkranz, also on the term limit. Nisha Raskin Austin. Lauren Fogle Boyd for Marblehead Community Access and Media Ed Bell will be stepping down Disabilities Commission. Ed L and Duff. Um, also, uh, moving on cultural, uh, Marblehead Cultural Council, Barbara Rosenberg, Howie Ra, Rosen Krantz, Nisha Raki, Austin, Lauren Fogel Boyd, and Dan Albert on the MBTA advisory has given his notice. Um, he’s not seeking reappointment. And Sarah Miller has moved, um, out of Marblehead. Rebecca, her, uh, Lorenzo has also moved out of town. So, um, I’ll ask for a motion that we send a letter of appreciation to these individuals, um,

1:42:38 who did not seek reappointment and who reached, or who reached their term limits for their service. So, move second. Mr. Fox. In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer?

1:42:50 In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. And then we have some, um, VA vacancies to announce and volunteer opportunities. Um, you can find these on the town website, and we will be updating them to reflect the current list of vacancies on the town boards, commissions, and committees. We do appoint residents to over 30 boards, committees and commissions in the town. And we accept letters of interest regardless of a vacancy. And we’ll keep such letters on file. Um, we will seek to notify you and it, the vacancy does occur during the year, and we strongly encourage anybody interested in applying for position on a board committee or commission to attend a regularly scheduled meeting of that board committee, a commission, and to reach out to the chair of that board or committee to gain further insight and a better understanding of the committee’s purview

1:43:37 and scope and what are, what the time expectations can be. They’re the greatest resource, um, uh, for prospective volunteers. And, um, so thank you Kyle, for always updating those and putting those out. Um, the contact information for all of the board’s, committees and commissions can be found on the website@marblehead.org or by contacting, contacting, um, the, the board’s office here at 7 8 1 6 3 1 0 0 0 0, or emailing Wiley k@marblehead.org. And just a reminder that if you’re interested in serving on one of the boards, um, you just, we ask that you submit a, a cover letter and a resume and, um, you can email it again

1:44:25 or if you’d like to mail it here at Abbott Hall, 180 8 Washington Street.

1:44:31 Okay. And, um, we also need to renew the following requests, um, to use premises owned by the town of Marblehead on Front Street at Little Harbor, commonly known as Turner Land, subject to the town, receipt of the proper applications incurring phishing licenses and all taxes paid to the town. Jeff Flynn, shanty number three, John by shanty number four, William Power shanty. Number five. William Brown, shanty number eight. David C. Rogers, shanty number nine. So Moved second. And I don’t know, Moses, you did you wanna, I know you had spoken with some of these Yeah, listen, we’re, I just Wanna give you the opportunity. I Yeah, look, I mean, I think it, it’s a pre, a little premature for that, but we’re, we’re working on a policy around the fishing Chain. Okay. Um, so we, we need a roll, roll call

1:45:16 Mr. Grader. In favor? Mr. Murray In favor, Ms. Singer?

1:45:23 She mouthed it in favor. Thank you Mr. Fox. In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Okay. And, um, now I’ll ask for, um, uh, Ms. Teresa Collins to come up and to talk to us about, um, alright. Having Marblehead designated as a Purple Heart Town. Yes. Oh, outstanding Too as well. So, um, I’ll pass these off to Kyle for distribution, but this is, these are the proclamations that I got from the, um, from the governor’s office. So there’s, there’s one for the, um, William Barry Square one. Pass those around. I I brought some for everyone. These are the actual signs. So this is, this is a small one. I actually snuck one up to Harry Christiansen the other day. I know he’s been working on this since, um, 2011. Oh, wow.

1:46:11 But this is, this is the, the actual sign itself that would be posted. Um, there, there’s some mockup images, but it’s the same size as like the 25 mile an hour speed limit the DOT as stur as can be. And, um, I, I paid for all these. ‘cause I, I want this to happen, so I, I prepared a statement to make this come across easier for Everyone. Just take your time. So, um, dear Select Board, I’m writing you today regarding our visiting with you today regarding having Marblehead designated as a Purple Heart Town, um, established by George Washington on August 7th in 1782. The Purple Heart is the oldest active military warden in the United States until Washington’s birthday, 200 years later, the Purple Heart persisted as a Revolutionary War footnote.

1:46:56 Through the efforts of General Douglas MacArthur, the United States War Department created the, or the Order of the Purple Heart. They’re an estimated 1.9 million service members who have been awarded the Purple Heart. No accurate or complete record has been maintained of recipients in doing the research for, um, the ESE across America, we have compiled a list of several Purple Heart recipients laid to rest here in Marblehead. Through the research for the ESE Across America Mission, we identified these decorated individuals, and I encourage you to review the names on the list provided tonight. I emailed that up to Kyle so she can, um, get that to you if you don’t have it. Yeah. And actually say their name so they are not forgotten. The mission of Reese Reese across America is to remember, honor and teach with this proclamation, the Town of Marble.

1:47:45 With this proclamation of Marblehead as a Purple Heart town, we are not only remembering and honoring the service members for their meritorious actions, we are also fostering an environment where we can teach future generations the value of freedom and encourage them to learn and share these stories of service and sacrifice. It is my hope analysis this evening that the board approved the posting of four signs with the image of the Purple Heart and the words Marblehead Purple Heart Town at the four roadway points of entering into town, um, on Atlantic. It has specific, specific addresses, um, but, um, it would be Atlantic, Humphrey Street, Tedesco, and Lafayette Street. The signs have already been designed and purchased by me and are DOT approved. There would be zero cost to the town I’d written to the governor’s office, as you can see. And, um, and, and actually they’re incredible.

1:48:32 They got those to me, um, in very short notice. Um, I have also arranged for a national recognition of Marblehead as a town along the Purple Heart Trail, which accomplishes the honorary goal of creating a visual reminder to those who use the roadway systems that others have paid a high price for the freedom we enjoy to live and travel in a pre society. Neighboring communities on the Purple Heart Trail include Salem Swamp, Scott Beverly, and Danvers of the 351 cities and towns in Massachusetts, there are 121 that are named on the National Purple Heart Trail List in the same exact way that I founded the Reese Across America program here in Marblehead by asking myself, why don’t we have that here? I’m asking that you tonight approve my request

1:49:18 and get our town on the list of Purple Heart communities, recognizing the service and sacrifice of our service members. That’s one ask. Wow. And then, um, while I’ve got you, I, I also, in doing the research for, for Recent Across America, I came across the story of, uh, captain, uh, I’m sorry, corporal William Ferry. So Corporal Ferry is late to rest at Star Sea Cemetery. Born December 31st in 1886. Corporal Ferry enlisted in the National Army in May 31st, 1918, and served in battery a of the fourth battalion field artillery. He died of pneumonia in France during World War I on February 6th, 1990. Fast forward a little bit on Sunday, January 9th, 1921,

1:50:03 the Boston Herald published a story titled Mar Marblehead Matters. It Read and I quote the questioner, providing a memorial for William f Ferry, who died in this, in the World War Service will claim the attention of voters of Marblehead at the annual town meeting in March of the five Men from Marblehead whose lives were sacrificed on the altar of patriotic duty in the recent war. The memory of Mr. Ferry alone remains unor by the town. The citizens of a recent town meeting rejected the proposal of purchasing attractive land at the junction of Humphrey and Lafayette streets for the purpose of creating a public park to be named Ferry Park because they deemed the project too costly. Fast forward to 2022 when it came across the story

1:50:49 of Corporal Ferry while doing the research for the veterans at the start of the Sea Cemetery. This was just one of the fascinating stories of the heroes laid to rest here in town. And I was compelled to shine a light on this forgotten soldier with the guidance from my brother Michael, the Public Works director for the City of Beverly. I reached out to a wonderful vendor who created this sign for me, uh, this customized veteran square marker and had this gorgeous memorial to cap Corporal Ferry made at my own expense in hopes that the board also, um, authorizing its placement on a traffic island at the most visibly traveled intersection in town. Pleasant Lafayette Humphrey, right in front of the house. Um, so that Corporal Ferry’s service is not forgotten. And then that’s actually the, the intended location back in 1921 where they, where they had wanted to place it. Um, the governor’s office was also notified

1:51:37 and they were kind enough to, to, um, include a citation honoring his service. Um, let’s see. I would also ask like to add a few footnotes to our program that have already been, um, mentioned this evening. The recent across America Marblehead Freedom Trail was awarded a grant by the Marblehead Cultural Council for the interactive program leading visitors to historic sites, memorials in patriotic artwork through town. And I would like to thank the cultural council for that award. We also, the Reese across America, we have established a flag day ceremony, which will, um, retire unserviceable flags at a ceremony, which we’re gonna hold annually. We’ve got our summer ducking campaign over the independence way day weekend, and most recently we were nominated for and received the prestigious chief Janine Roberts Public

1:52:24 Safety Award through the Reese Across America National Program. It’s a national award which recognizes volunteers who are in public safety and their volunteer service to the Reese Across America Mission. And, um, I’m truly honored to, to bring this and share it all with the town. So two requests, signs and a, a place in a post. And actually I spoke to Amy Chu, uh, we had a chance encounter the other day, um, up on Wood Road. And, um, she, she has no problem. Uh, I described her the placement of that sign on the Traffic island and, and, and described to her the locations, um, for those signs. And she said, we have no problem. So with that,

1:53:05 To raise a extraordinary thank you for doing this, It’s An honor. Anything else you do for the veterans? Yeah, I, um, I know that in 2011, Harry Christiansen had wanted to start a chapter of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. And I don’t know, you know, I don’t know how that evolved or didn’t evolve, but, um, when I brought the sign that sign down to him at his office, he said, I must have ESP because every time we drive into Salem, I see that sign and go, yes, why not here? Why don’t we have that? And, um, I reached out to a couple of people that the national director Joe actually exchanged emails he might be watching via Zoom right now. And, um, so they’re gonna get us on the National National Football Trail and stuff. So it’s, it’s, it’s incredible and I’m, it’s important to me to bring that in for, um,

1:53:51 people who have sacrificed so much. So much. Yeah. Yeah. This came up at, um, that it was coming before us, that a meeting two days ago, and I said, I was like, I’ve seen that, I’ve seen that sign. And, um, so you do recognize it and it, you know, it has meaning. And I think what you said about, um, it provides that conversation in a car with a parent, like when your kid asks, what does that mean? You know, the kids see stuff all the time, you know, on the sides. And what does Purple Heart Town mean? You know, um, and then you just, it it is, it, it’s a good reminder and it’s a good educational, um, opportunity. Yeah. We have a great team of volunteers involved with the local youth across American Mission and, uh, so the outreach, especially like through the Elder Act and into the schools so we can teach,

1:54:38 um, about these, these incredible stories. If you look down the roster of names of Purple Heart recipients, it is, um, it’s amazing. It’s amazing. There’s sacrifice in service. I mean, as it’s really cool History. I mean, it’s the birthplace where the birthplace of the American Navy and our, our battles go back to the original Mm-Hmm. Right. So, um, it’s just another Ingredient in the incredible mix of things that we have here in town. So yeah, Alexa, I don’t want, I don’t, It’s an amazing contribution. Alright. Yeah. Thanks so much for your initiative. Thank you. It’s appreciate Thank you. Yep. Yeah. And you give us, you make it really hard to turn it down when you buy it before. I know. Very well put. Yep. No, it looks amazing. They’re, they’re, it’s a wonderful

1:55:24 company to do business with. Yep. And it’s, it’s a, it’s a really neat story Yeah. About how, just how the town operates and, um, you know, like you, you see those intersections, you know, that land and, you know, was it the land where St. Stevens is, is it the land where the high school now sits? Right. Um, is it where the park and rec building or, um, is, you know, but those, those are the spaces, you know, so that’s really cool. You can still relate to those things. And even if it’s just by placing a simple sign, it’s, it’s remembering that service of a young man who dies a logo. And so there’ll be four at the entrance or the, the request is four at the entrances to town Atlantic. I, we have it here, but Atlantic, So 4 34 Atlantic, and which is in, which is in a little bit, um, there’s some, some tree overgrowth. And so as you, as you come along into town, there’s, um,

1:56:10 that’s kind of a, a, an open kind of visual, um, foam pole right there. Uh, pilgrim at Humphrey again, because you, as you’re coming in from Swamp Scott, right? Different way, you’re making that curve and cars are coming in hot. And, um, so at, at the far side of that intersection, Tedesco West, again, minn the trees and, and things that are blocking that view. But once you get up to that intersection of Tedesco West is a really good, uh, kind of open line of sight where you could pick that up. And then Lafayette right above the 25 mile an hour, you know, welcome to Marble Hills.

1:56:43 Okay, so you have the first motion for Purple Hill, And we’ll do separate for that, Kyle, just draft it for the second motion if you Okay, thanks. Yeah, entertain that. Um, okay. So, um, can we please have a motion to approve the request from Theresa Collins to designate Marblehead of Purple Heart Town, recognizing the service and sacrifices of our service members, and to approve the posting of four signs with the image of the Purple Heart metal in the words Marblehead Purple Heart Town at the four roadway points of entry to town on Atlantic, a Humphrey Street, ESCO and Lafayette. So Moved. Second. Ms. Singer, In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. And also, um, I’ll ask for a motion to approve the placement

1:57:31 of this sign here commemorating, uh, captain William Ferry Corporal, um, uh, on the Traffic Island Corporal, sorry, corporal, uh, to approve, um, to, to place outside, um, the traffic circle and the island, uh, outside the high school. And, um, and subject to review, obviously by our town administrator, um, DPW, police and Fire. And so moved. Second. Okay, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you. Thank you so much. And thank you for donating.

1:58:16 Good job. Thank you.

1:58:20 Um, okay. Um, next for our, um, we, we’ve all had an opportunity, um, to review these draft human resource policies. We’ve, um, had them for some time, And also I have, uh, Tom Howard is available online, should there be any questions for our HR director? Okay. Um, great. And, um, tonight, uh, Tom and, um, our HR director and town administrator are requesting our approval of, uh, policies on Parental Leave Act, anti anti-harassment, anti-discrimination, sexual harassment policy, employee conduct, and Discipline and Family Medical Leave Act.

1:59:06 Um, so I guess I’ll open it to the board before we, you know, um, if anybody has any questions for our HR director or, um, comments. So, I, I will just mention this maybe before, is that there’s, there’s a whole series of policies we need to put in place. These are the first ones up because these are requirements that we should have in place. So, um, I would suggest even if there are maybe some tweaks or we’ll review, uh, suggest put ‘em in place. And since their policies under the purview of the board, if there are any other changes or updates, we maybe we can do it fairly easily and quickly.

1:59:52 But our goal is to at least get the compliance policies in place that we need. It protects the interest of the town as an employer. Right. Um, and, and get these things established, um, up and running and amendments can be made. Yeah, we can, right? They’re policy. So we can, these are pretty statutory anyway, anyways, anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty, pretty standard. Yeah. Yeah. So, Um, Tom, did you wanna add anything? Also have No, I Mean, I think that’s important thing, just, I Haven’t Oh, oh, okay. So Tom, I also wanted to give you an opportunity for, um, Dan, uh, Fox, our new member to, um, put a face to a name. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, really that just said, oh, we’re just being compliant with ever evolving federal

2:00:39 and state regulations. We have a number of policies that need to be updated and we have to place them somewhere where employees can see them. So we’re compliant with the law. Great, great. It’s really, um, it’s, it’s, I really appreciate having this position filled and, and, and, um, funded now. Yes. Mm-Hmm. Yep. Okay. Can I have a motion to approve the following HR policies for the town of Marblehead as presented? Policy one 18 Parental Leave Act, policy 1 0 8, anti-harassment, anti-discrimination policy 1 0 9, sexual harassment one 12 Employee Conduct and Discipline, one 15 Family Medical Leave Act. So Moved. I have a second. Second. Aye second. Okay, Mr. Fox? In favor? Mr. Grayer? In favor? Mr. Damari?

2:01:27 In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Great, thank you. Um, okay. Contracts we are on. Um, So Yeah, Before you, as you jump into this, so I’m, uh, Amy UE is available for some that are under her purview. She’s been working, uh, I will brief on others. And the reason the chief and I are running in and outta the room, I have an additional contract that we would ask for approval if you’re so inclined. We just got it back from legal. So we, we didn’t have on the list, but it, it came in and it has to do with the installation

2:02:13 of the fiber optic cable throughout town. And given the timeframe that has taken us to navigate the process, uh, it’s funded by arpa this, this board approved up to $500,000 for funding of this. So, um, ask your indulgence to allow an additional contract, um, and I can go into the details at that time. Okay, great. Um, well, let’s take ‘em one at a time, right? Unis do you wanna talk to? Yeah, uni. So, um, so, um, Tyler Industries is of Munis is the financial software that we’re migrating to. The, the, the primary component is the general ledger, but it has also all the different modules that tie into it

2:03:00 that we utilize for the various functions. We, um, we came to this board months ago where we decided we were not going to use the Munis, uh, payroll module. We needed to move much more quickly, and we were gonna go with the Harpers module. Um, so we were running down that path, but then we ended up having a meeting with the school administrators. And because of their needs and requirements, um, long and short, we did a U-turn back where we are now gonna, instead of going the Harper’s, we are gonna go forward with the muni compatible payroll,

2:03:47 and then the, the school side’s gonna use the HR module. So it’s, and, and so the requirement is because it’s the contracts were, we’re switching between the vendors, um, that’s why it has to come back to the board as far as cost. Um, Frank, bottom line, it’s, it’s about a wash. So the, the added cost back onto Munis is about the same, within a few dollars, about 20, they’re both 20, $21,000 a year costs. It, it removing it from, from Harper’s to Munis. So financially it’s a pretty much a wash. Okay. So this vote would authorize us bring in the Muni contract back up in dollar value

2:04:32 to incorporate the modules, and we are not gonna go forward with the Harpers, so that will just expire.

2:04:42 Okay. Any questions? So Munis has made, uh, a lot of improvements. I know there’s some legacy system questions around that, right. And you think you’re comfortable with all that? Obviously. Uh, Muni is much more robust than what we have. Yeah. And there’s so many capabilities. I actually have to scale it back so that have people that’s into the early phases first. Yes. So are the schools using the payroll on Muni already? Is that what they’re They Are going to run with implementation with my payroll manager. Okay. And implement that while I’m simultaneously implementing the collections and revenue module. Okay. Right. So we’re for a second. Yeah. So we’re doing payroll in-House through the soft right system. And other, there are other systems

2:05:28 that are part of the process. And one of the reasons to migrate is some of those systems are the software is very old and we need to get off those systems and migrate on. Um, so, and, and again, part of the project to the credit of Alicia, credit to Mary De Deli over at the school side and the, the other school administrators working out the needs between the, the two sites, because though, you know, we’re all part of the town, the school systems have certain needs and requirements due to the nature of their business, as you know, that are slightly different than us. So as we move forward on these projects, we learn new things

2:06:15 and we, we try to make it all compatible to work for everybody. So these, these are the kind of changes that make the whole system work better, um, as, as we navigate our through this.

2:06:29 So there has been some, um, transition in the school side finance department, just to be clear. ‘cause it sounds like this has been a lot like well coordinated. Um, but just to make sure, is this being coordinated with the current, um, finance director That is start, yes. Okay. He’s Already reached out to, okay. Yes. His credit to our team to try to meet early and go over things that, to have streamlined and make things smoother between. Great. Thank you. And the schools have contracted with Mary Deli to stay on specifically for this migration. Oh, perfect. For the schools. That’s great. Okay. Okay. Um, seems like we’re ready for a motion, um, to approve an amendment number two between the town

2:07:17 and Tyler Muni and the amount not to exceed 65,005, uh, $241 and authorized the chair to sign on behalf of the board. So, second, Uh, Mr. Grader In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Ms. Nunan in favor. Okay. Um, next, uh, is a, um, approval of a lease agreement. Um, So yeah, go ahead. So this is for the fire department of Ford, F-150 SuperCrew truck. It’s primarily used for fire department training. Um, and this was, uh, funded through, uh, article seven of this year’s town meeting. Okay. Just requiring our approval on the lease, so, yep.

2:08:05 Is this a lease to own? Yeah. Yep. Can I have a motion to approve the lease agreement between the town of Marblehead and Republic First National in the amount of $64,269 and 40 cents for the purchase of one new Ford F-150 SuperCrew truck for the Marblehead Fire Department. And authorize the chair to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Ms. Nunan In favor. Um, okay. And I’ll, um, hand it back over to you. Uh, yep. Mr. Aver. So this next one, uh, to authorize the town administrator to sign Mm-Hmm. Uh, so, um, this is a grant we’re receiving from the state part of the Harbor Resiliency Project.

2:08:52 So all the work that’s going on down on Commercial Street Mm-Hmm. That whole area. Um, what had happened is, um, and we had received grants for the work to do that. We calculated based on the, the different tasks that are being done to the project that we had $150,000 deficit in the project. There were certain factors in the project that costs were overrun. So, um, we reached out to the state to say, can you help us? And they replied back, or CZM Coastal Zone Management replied back that they had 150,000 and change of funds available. There were other people’s projects elsewhere that didn’t happen or whatever. So they awarded us an additional 150,000

2:09:40 and change to the grants we had already received to make up for the project deficit. Understand. So that was the good news. Yep. Uh, however, um, you know, normally these, these uh, uh, contracts with the state to receive the money is approved by the board. We were on a timeline that because it’s the end of the fiscal year for the state as well as us, um, I had to sign this so that the state could finish their process before the fiscal year closed out. Uh, I was not about to lose out on 150 to a total of $673,428. So I made a command decision in the field. Good initiative. Yes. And so what your vote is, is just authorizing my action

2:10:28 to give it the legitimate vote that, um, approval of accepting money, uh, from the state. Okay. We please have a motion to authorize the town administrator to sign a grant contract for him and park accessible sidewalk and entrance improvement. So moved. Um, Can I have a second? Yep. You second. A second I a question. Okay. And then do, is there a Question? Oh, okay. You have a question? Yep. Questions. I thought You second. Oh, nope. I’m good. I, I will make one mention just on this topic of the project. I know there was a lot of some public comments out on social media. This project has nothing to do with ev charging stations at all. Okay. I have no idea where that information came from.

2:11:14 It is absolutely, yeah, that’s right. Not true. It’s amazing how it got around. Yeah. This project is raising the sea walls, uh, in anticipation of rising seas. It’s gonna in raise the level of the material behind it Alright. To get it. Um, and, and other similar improvements to, to, for the land. And it’s providing an accessible continuous path along that whole waterfront. And so one of the main reasons for the, the ledge being removed is to make space for an a DA compliant walkway that connects the entirety of the waterfront. When the project’s finished, the public will be able to use the entirety of the waterfront in that whole project area. And

2:11:59 Is that up against the fence of electric light? That’s, yeah. So the sidewalk comes up and then comes over, so along the fence. Right. And so it’s, it’s to be A-D-A-D-A accessible, uh, in that whole area. And that’s one of the requirements to receive this type of funding of any improvements in the area. We, we have to, as well as meeting the resiliency requirements is meeting accessibility requirements. And that’s what, that’s what all that work is about. Nothing to do with EV chargers. I just thought I’d have to mention that. It really, really nice spot. Yeah. I didn’t even, to be honest, I didn’t even, wasn’t even aware of it until we started talking about the czm stuff and the coastal resiliency, you know, kind of just assumed it was part of the, the light department property and that,

2:12:44 and people don’t, it’s kind of hidden. It’s a hidden gem. Yeah. And, and they were making some improvements themselves. They have their own project that they’re doing. Well, it is, it is part of, uh, yeah. Part of electrical that’s there, that’s their area. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, in terms of like people thinking it’s a public, like Yeah. Like you kind of have to know it’s there. Yeah. Yep. All right. Okay. Get that cleared. Did we vote? No. No, we haven’t voted. We’re ready to vote. Okay. Let’s do it. Mr. Grader In favor? Mr. Murray, you did sign it with a note in favor? Yes, Ms. Singer? In favor Mr. Fox? In favor? Ms. Moon, Uh, in favor. Okay. This next one I’ll give to, um, Amy,

2:13:35 Is she still on? Yes, I am. There. You are Still on numbers.

2:13:42 Um, I actually don’t have my agenda, so I don’t know which one’s first. Um, Woodward and current MS four permit permitting. Right. So this is for, uh, professional, uh, engineering assistance with our MS four permit. Um, it’s gonna cover us for years five through seven, I believe. And it’s for public outreach. But the bigger part that we’ll be undertaking is that illicit discharge detection, uh, testing. So, um, we’ve worked with current, uh, Wilburn come for the last year, and they were actually the original engineers who developed our storm water management plan, our swee and our illicit discharge plan.

2:14:29 So we look forward to working with them again. Okay. It will be funded through the, uh, drain construction article also. Okay, great. Um, can I have a motion to award the contract for professional engineering services related to MS four permit years? Five to seven support to Woodward and Kern of 40 Chaddock Road of Andover in the amount of $180,000. And authorize the chair to sign the contract on behalf of the board. So Moved. Second. Um, Mr. Murray In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Greater in favor, Ms. Noon

2:15:15 In favor. Sorry. Okay. Um, So this is Amy also. Okay, so this is the change order, Amy for, uh, catch basin cleaning catch basin. Okay. So, um, we have a multi-year contract with roadway maintenance. Do our catch basin cleaning in that they have to remove the material, uh, that they take outta the catch basins. There are only a few, um, areas that we can dump the catch basin material. It’s regulated by the state. So there has been an increase in that hauling and in that waste removal. So we’d like to increase a line item. Uh, it’s by $4 a ton. And that is the multiple of, um, it’s really a not to exceed

2:16:02 ‘cause we don’t know how much material we’re gonna take out of each catch basin, but that’s how much we’ll try to move out in a year at the, um, at the most. Okay. It also will be funded through the drain construction articles. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. Can I have a motion to approve the change order Number one, to amend the contract between town and roadway maintenance services of one 30 Camelot Drive in Plymouth, mass 0 2 3 6 2 for the catch basic cleaning project by increasing the contract amount by $9,000 and 0 cents. And authorize the chair to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Newan in favor then? Um, next? Yeah,

2:16:51 I’ll take this one. Thank you. Um, so this is, uh, uh, to receive a grant that was awarded, uh, part of the Mass Trails program grant. Um, so it’s a $60,000 grant, and we will provide a 15, uh, $15,000 match, which will come from our a shortfall fund. So it’s opera funds that were set aside to do things like this. Uh, um, this is to make improvements to the trail between the Smith Street Crossing improvements and the Pleasant Street Crossing improvements. So that link in between is about 650 feet, uh, is to improve the trail and connect those other improvements.

2:17:36 Uh, it’s, it’s considered a high visibility area of the trail. So this is, I think this is, uh, not the biggest dollar ones we’ve got, but it’s gonna be rate smack and, you know, high visibility, high use area of the trail and connect all the improvements that have already been done. That’s great. Okay, great. Um, I’ll ask for motion to submit the application for the Mass Trails program, grant Pleasant Street to Smith Street Rail Trail, and authorize the chair to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second, Mr. Fox. In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Noonan In favor. And then finally, as, um, Thatcher had, uh, mentioned to us earlier at, um, at the top of these contracts, uh,

2:18:25 before us, um, is his request that we vote the fiber optic, um, install that, uh, will be paid for through the ARPA funds. Okay. Yep. So, yes. So what the, um, the fiber loop is, um, the way I like to describe it, we’re putting a fiber highway that’s gonna loop throughout the entire community for municipal services. We’ve actually worked a a whole team of folks, public safety, um, um, and, and our wiring folks and others, and had a consultant actually define the pathway so that we hit every municipal building, every other municipal,

2:19:10 uh, structure that needs some type of internet connectivity, including the major intersections. Um, so the whole idea is, uh, currently the way that the internet connection is installed, it’s a serial path that runs from building to building to building. And so, for example, uh, we brought this up when the library project was in full construction, the contractor needed, the wires moved, you know, it, it goes down the street, goes in the building, comes back outta the library bill and continues on. If they cut that line, it would’ve cut off our entire dispatch center in police station from internet access. Hmm. So, so it’s a, it’s a single fault path.

2:19:59 So what the fiber loop will do is it’ll actually be a loop throughout the community. So if any one segment gets broken, there are alternate paths for our internet connections to continue. Now, this will provide the highway that’ll go throughout the community we still would need on each facility as a separate project, then fund, and then connect that fiber into each building to, to put it on the highway. So after the fiber loops in, we’ll, we’ll fight that battle. But, um, this is one of the primary purposes of ARPA funding. Uh, it prioritize these type of projects. It’s, it brings resiliency for our public safety functions as well as providing high speed internet connections

2:20:46 as we talked about the ability to stream all our meetings, you know, all the video, um, that, you know, more and more that we’re using. This gives the municipality those capabilities to push a lot more data through the wires, um, you know, for the transparency and the openness issues that, that we talked about over the last few years. So yeah, It, it’s a major, major hardening of our, our IT capabilities. Yes, for sure. Yes. So it’s a great infrastructure investment. Yes, for sure. And I’m glad we can use those, um, recovery funds Yep. For this. Yep. So you’ve authorized already up to 500,000 and our funds, this project is 420,662.

2:21:32 So it leaves some funds for other components of the project, uh, that, that we may run into. Is this gonna require any, any digging anywhere or, Uh, no. What’s that gonna look like? Um, I, I say primarily no. I, I, but it’s all on the pulses. Gotcha. Um, that was one of the issues clarifying whether this was considered prevailing wage work or not. And because it’s putting wire on existing poles, it’s not construction. So we didn’t have to go down the path of prevailing wage. Yeah. Okay. Um, seeing no further comments, um, I’ll ask for a motion to appro, uh,

2:22:17 approve a contract with contract of box wear masks for the purpose of installing a fiber optic municipal area network throughout the town in the amount of $420,662 and 90 cents. And authorize the chair to sign on behalf of the board. So moved. Second, Uh, Mr. Fox? In favor, Mr. Grader? In favor, Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Ms. Nun In favor.

2:22:42 Okay. And that’s it for contracts. Thank you. And, um, next in our packet, we, um, have a notice from, uh, Charles Quigley that Jesse Alderman has resigned from a a con com effective immediately. And, um, he, he has been on the commission for 10 years. Um, and, uh, it’s time for him to, um, he’s just unable to find the time anyway. So we, um, we should also maybe set a date, um, are we, you know, set a date so we can solicit interest and, um, maybe sometime the end of July. And that let allow time for Kyle to get it on the website

2:23:34 Interview in August or like set or the end of July. Um, So we have a meeting. Okay. So our July meetings, just for everyone’s sake, is the 10th and the 24th, our regular meetings. Um,

2:23:53 and so what if we, so we could set,

2:24:00 is it, is it, um, do, is he feel like it, is it a summer? Is there an urgency to this with the summer? Do you get more requests? Probably. I think they just, they’d like to have a full board. Yeah. ‘cause they, they are required to have, so Would two weeks, maybe The first meeting in August? It is a Oh, Tough for sure. I didn’t know if you wanted to try to do it in the, on the, in the last meeting in July. We could. And if we don’t have interest yet, then we, I mean not, I’m not gonna be here for August, so. Okay. Look for the August meeting, first August meeting, but, Um, I Mean, that sounds good. Okay. As soon as soon as possible, right. Yeah. July. July. Yeah. So, um, why don’t we set the interviews for the second meeting in July.

2:24:44 So, Because we can post ‘em alongside with the other vacancies too, at the same time, the 24th For interviews. Yeah. So I guess receiving letters up to the 19th Mm-Hmm. Okay. Um, is anybody else unavailable for the meeting on the seventh and it’s vacation season? So just make sure we don’t have a quorum issue. We could rearrange them. Which meeting? Seventh. Seventh. August. It’ll be the 14th. The 14th, sorry. The 14th of August. You’re away. 14th. I won’t Be here. You won’t be here. Okay. All right. Just wanted to check ‘cause it’s busy vacation time Chair, since he’s not on the, uh, appreciation for the ones that were not seeking reappointment. I’d like to send him a letter of appreciation for a Service. That’s right. Yeah.

2:25:30 Oh, right. You didn’t see that? Yeah, that’s right. Yep. No. So make that motion on somebody second. So, so moved.

2:25:42 Motion a second. You have a second? Yes. Um, Second. Okay. All right. Vote Mr. Grader in favor? Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In Favor, Mr. Fox? In favor? Ms. Nunan In favor? Okay.

2:26:05 Um, is, okay, so, and then next we have a, um, request from Amy Chu on parking restriction, um, around the municipal lot, uh, by the little theater.

2:26:26 Amy, are you taking that one? Sure. Uh, so the DPW would like to, um, restrict parking or have temporary no parking in that parking, uh, area behind the little theater so we can clean up the borders around there. So we’ve cut some trees, uh, some bushes that have grown into large trees and there are stumps there. There’s also some logs and some, uh, debris that has, uh, built up over the years. So we basically wanna get some equipment in there so that we can pull the stumps clear off it, make it a level serv a level surface all around that parking lot. We’ll take the time to look at the, uh, drain structures in there too, to make sure that they don’t need to be repaired. Um, I’m hoping it will take one day,

2:27:13 but I did put the request in for two, just in case we had to go back there. We picked a Monday because historically that’s when the restaurants are closed and it’s a little quieter. Um, so not as to really affect everybody and all the businesses in that area. Okay, great. Thank you. Um, can I have a motion to approve the request from, uh, DPW Director Amy McHugh for the following parking restrictions? Temporary parking restrictions, no parking allowed from 8:00 AM to 2:30 PM on Monday, July 8th, 2024. And Monday, July 15th, 2024 in the municipal parking lot behind 12 School Street to facilitate as, um, Ms. McHugh, uh, had stated the tree stump removal. So move second Ms. Singer

2:28:03 In favor. Sorry, I was muted. That’s All. We, we waited Mr. Fox, Mr. Grader? In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor? Mr. Newan? In favor. Thank you. Thank you. Um, all right. And, uh, that brings us to the public comment section of the meeting. If, um, anyone in the audience just state your, your name and, and your street, um, if you’re online and would like to make comment, just raise your hand and, um, uh, Kyle Wiley will let me know. Uh, go ahead Albert. Excuse me. Albert Jordan Roosevelt. Um, I’m wondering with the human resources director, if we hire someone to replace at the assessor’s office, um,

2:28:52 when we start doing these new contracts for the department heads, can we put a 90 day clause in there if they’re not gonna be working, if we’re not satisfied with their work, that we don’t have to continue to pay ‘em for months when they’re not here anymore? I, I just think it’s a no brainer. Um, because there’s several of the school department, the Chris Gallo situation, it just seems like we didn’t have a town administrator here for years that was on the ball. And we need to put language, um, you know, there, um, that protects the taxpayer. So, um, I mean, I think it’s reasonable that, you know, if you’re not satisfied what these people are doing, um, that we don’t continue to pay ‘em for their full contract and the town gets no service out of it and, um, the department suffers no department head.

2:29:41 Um, the other thing is on the out street dining, I mentioned a couple things. You know, a few weeks ago you ignored it all. You voted tonight to do it. Um, I hope next year that if you’re gonna continue to do this, you ask the public if they have any comment that when you’re discussing it or if you have a meeting on it before and there’s people concerned about it, because I don’t, I don’t know why you’re allowing tables to be on the sidewalk walking the sidewalk. I see older people that have to go around and go behind those Jersey barriers and it’s a couple hours a day. And the seven days in a week I came by tonight and all that parking in front of the barrel man, and people that were going in

2:30:27 and out of Tony’s Pizza, there wasn’t one empty part parking spot on School Street. So you’re tying those up for two, three hours a night. They’re not open Mondays. It’s not seven days. Those restaurants knew they don’t even have any parking for the customers. And now you’re giving them taking parking away and penalizing the other people in the area for a short period of time that they knew that when they came there. I understand during Covid, that was a different situation. That’s why the governor’s letting new people make, make, you know, the determination now. But I don’t know, we’re putting a sidewalk on Lafayette Street, but we’re gonna block a sidewalk, nice cement sidewalk that’s existing for older people that walk, that they have

2:31:13 to go down a curb and go behind a jersey barrier. And, um, I’ll just tell you, I walked down to CVS and the coffee shops have no jersey barriers on Atlantic Avenue. And there’s tables out there and people tie up dogs. They get su they got three seats there. I can’t even get by the sidewalk without walking to the streets. Sometime they got their dog tied there li lying down. There’s no Jersey barriers there. And the last thing I want to know, the barrel men, I could be wrong about this, but I hope there’s gonna be no gas heaters there during the winter. ‘cause that’s a very dangerous situation for the kids to come along at night and tip those things over. I think they had a tent thing there before too, which is an eyesore. But I mean, when you put these jersey barriers down there,

2:31:59 it’s not pretty quaint marble head, I’ll tell you. It’s a, I’m, I don’t go down there to eat. I don’t wanna smell gas fumes. I don’t want to sit outside when it’s a hundred degrees when there’s an air conditioned building inside. So, and I think these Russians should have to come up and come in here and plead with you. And maybe I’d have a different view on it because it just seems like, oh, this is great. We’ll get a lot more business. And you see like the landing that there’s lobster people, it’s not affecting me down the landing. At least it started taking up parking spaces. But I understand that’s a public area down there. The premium people are paying premium taxes to be on the water here and you’re trying to bring people in. And I don’t why, I don’t know why you’re letting businesses take over public property.

2:32:45 I, I mean, I just can’t understand it. Um, the last thing I wanna say, the police department I read in the paper a while back, uh, I believe they hired a lady for glenfield, uh, some type of mental health, uh, person that was gonna help out in town. And I’m appalled to read, I know it’s nothing to do with you, but I don’t, but I’m a citizen of this town and I’m appalled to read what’s been going on at the Glover School that they had an issue and that six times they had a re, I don’t know if they’re talking about the same kid, but I think the police department should look into what’s going on in these public schools. And the fire department should be called to evaluate these people. They’re the medical personnel. So if the teachers or whoever’s running the school system can’t, uh,

2:33:33 handle the kids and they need to be restrained, I worked in a hospital and you’re not allowed to do that. Um, within, there’s all kinds of safeguards on that, but it’s really, really, really sad that like young, young children, um, you know, when I went to school, we, they made us stand in the corner. I, I know the kids might be different this day and age, but I cannot understand in an elementary school that they can’t handle the kids. And if they can’t handle the kids they need to send them over to Salem but have medically, um, you know, but it’s really, really sad that this just, just just didn’t go on once. Right. You know, I don’t know if it’s true what I’m reading in the paper, but we need to focus on what’s going on here in this town.

2:34:19 And, and it’s, it’s sad to say I’m just glad that I don’t have any kids in this school system. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. There’s no one online, Madam Chair. Okay. Um, okay. Um, county administrator updates. Sure. A few things. One, um, I wanna do a, a little bit of clarification. An earlier announcement. I think the chief appreciates this, the stall award. Um, it’s not just for the chief, it’s the entire department. Oh wow. And the chief would be assistant that the entire department gets recognition. ‘cause it was the effort of the entire department that did the work and are getting, getting notified on that. So just a little clarification, uh, the other things real quick.

2:35:05 Um, so starting tomorrow, um, we have, this is a reminder delivery of the transformers that are coming in Station 13. So there’ll be some restrictions, um, uh, right off Pleasant Street and Bessam. And in that area there are mul, there’s multiple trucks that are coming in, bringing in the massive transformers. There’ll be a crane that needs to be assembled on the site built up and then torn down. This will occur over the next two days. Um, the exact timing when they come in, uh, they’re coming from halfway across the country, so they’re navigating their way here. Very large and very slow vehicles.

2:35:51 Um, so anyways, just reminding everybody, the businesses are open in that area, but it’s, you know, when the trucks are being maneuvered in, obviously traffic is gonna have to be halted and people moved outta the way to, to allow this to go through. This is a benefit to the entire community. Mm-Hmm. Uh, to make more reliable our, our energy source. Um, the other event reminder coming up obviously is the 4th of July. And to reiterate for information on our fireworks presentations, uh, the website, Marblehead fire.works. So it’s just the Marblehead fireworks. Put a put a dot between Fire and Works and that’ll have all the information and updates.

2:36:37 I believe we’ve made arrangements to prevent any fog banks from coming in. Chief. We’re all set. Both of you. Yeah. Um, but any updates or, you know, any, any situation, direct people to go and hopefully everybody have a good time and be safe, uh, over the 4th of July, uh, celebration. And that’s what I have at this time. Awesome. Thanks. Thank you. Um, do we have any select board member announcements?

2:37:10 Okay. So, um, then we, uh, are ready to Adjourn if we just have a motion. Adur. So move second. Mr. Grader. In favor? Mr. Murray? In favor, Ms. Singer? In favor, Mr. Fox? In favor, Ms. Nunan in favor. Thank you Kyle.